Rich Eisen Weighs In on the Impact of Tua Tagovailoa & Jordan Love’s Huge New Contracts
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Rich Eisen reacts to the lucrative weekend experienced by Miami Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa and Green Bay Packers QB Jordan Love who both got huge new contracts.
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A few of the massive QB contracts are going to age very poorly
Probably
probably half.
Probably, if your not Mahomes
@@scruffd0g193 Chiefs and Mahomes have reworked his deal three times since he signed it in 2020. Those times were a year after signing it, 2021 and the last year and this year.
Making Jordan Love one of the highest paid QBs in the league after ONE full season is mind blowing.
We have a bunch of Sam Bradfords playing in the NFL.
But none of them were discussed in this video.
Good ole cross eyes
I think every game is sold out. NFL have lots of money everywhere.
The simple truth is the Super Bowl wins on that list will remain low. Most QB's won't win a SB. That's just the way it is. But the NFL makes more and more $ w/ every passing year and new TV deals so it's only fair the players get bigger and bigger contracts. If those QB's put butts in seats then the money is well spent by the teams.
Well Butts in the SEAT really won't be factor since that really won't change that much even if a team doesn't make the playoffs. But spending the money more wisely as opposed to just overpaying BAD QBs can be far more of a benefit to the TEAM and their FANS. So it FAIR only if more players share in the growing Pool of money as opposed to just the Select, overrated FEW. Eventually this out of Control Spending will Bankrupt everything. Then what.
@@natureredux1957 lol yeah NFL teams are on an express train to bankruptcy hahah
@@BreakfastandDessert I'm old enough to see MLB think the same thing....
100k more than Goff.
I hate, just hate, the "combined playoff win/loss record." The win/loss record for all playoff QBs in a single playoff season is .500 (has to be). If you take playoff teams, say 16 of them in a standard single elimination bracket, eight of them end 0-1, four end 1-1, two end 2-1, one ends 3-1, one ends 4-0. Only four of the 16 will have a winning playoff record! It's the format!
Well said
Pat Mahomes 8-0 last 8 playoff games…he runs it again Clark hands him a blank check and a pen😳
Valid point but I think he's just pointing out that the highest paid players aren't getting paid for winning, but the hope that they can win down the road.
How is 3-1 not a winning record or 2-1?
@@chrisuncleahmad 🤫
I was waiting for this segment.!!😂
Stafford looks like he just woke up
that vendiagram line was CRAZY
Richie Green Bay's Love is paid in full.✈️✈️✈️✈️
Patrick Mahomes answered in just 2 words.... I'm here, in the best Kermit the frog voice ever
Also recency matters. If Mahomes was up for a contract renewal there's no doubt he would get the highest paid money.
Exactly. Why are we acting like this about merit based pay, and not simply the going rate for QB's?
Love won't be the highest paid for very long.
Thats why the Chiefs did the smart thing and sign him to a 10-years deal, now they dont have to worry about negotiating for a new contract and can just build the rest of the team. And long term deal mean they can REALLY shift money around and create cap space whenever they need to.
@@tigera6 They've already renegotiated that contract multiple times.
Mahones did the brady thing and took less money, it's the only way to be good for 20 years
Jordan Love... Let's goooooooooo!!!🧀💚💛💚💛🧀💚💛🧀 And your Kamala Harris ads suck!!!!!!!!!
Don't worry, he's working on better ones for Kamala right now.
Packer fans are just happy they have a QB they actually like as a human being.
I knew you missed it
it sucked because I've been waiting for your take all weekend
Well yeah, Super Bowl is the ultimate goal but these franchises are also selling tickets, merchandise, etc. They are selling the possibility of getting that championship. Right or wrong this is the buy in.
Tua and Love share an agent. By the way, Love's new 4 year deal is more like a 5 year deal. He's still under contract from that 1-year contract he chose to sign last year, so it's more like a 5/$237M extension. Closer to $48M per year, but people will focus more on the 4-year. That being said, Love will prove the Packers right for giving him the extension. He's the guy.
Also, revisionist history is going on here. The Packers also paid Aaron Rodgers after a single season, they took the risk because they saw something in Rodgers and chose to extend him. Packers are doing it again, taking the risk and they see something in Jordan Love. If there was one organization I would trust with QB evaluation, it's the Packers.
Exactly. Their track record speaks for itself.
I love Venn Diagrams. They're just 3 circle that represent the significance of the passage of the work.
And as long as people keep paying tens of thousands of dollars for game tickets and excessive amounts of money for overpriced merchandise, ect ect. It will stay that way.
And this list of Super Bowl winners loses meaning when you consider 15 of the last 44 QB's in Super Bowls were 2 guys. That's 1/3rd plus retired QB's are moved from the list. There are only 2 per year and Brady and Mahomes have most of recent ones too.
Goff also. This puts pressure on them to advance further in the playoffs than they did last year.
He won't advance out of his division if he gets pressured in the pocket.
They get paid based on market salaries for a Pro NFL QB. Not on past resume, past winnings, past records set, which is not the case for regular, everyday employees.
So if the QBs had consistent sub-.500 records, would they have gotten paid top dollars?
@@DrPhill96 - No....they would've been kicked to the curb like Christian Ponder or Carson Wentz.
@@christopherweise438 - But the original poster stated that past resumes, winnings and records are not factors for salaries for NFL QBs. And, Carson is still in league and already was the highest paid at one time.
@@DrPhill96 - Which team is he starting for, and how many years is he his current 55 million per year contact?
@@christopherweise438 - Is Anthony your boo? While your logic is protective of him, it’s WRONG!!! Carlson got paid and STILL in the league. These top-8 QBs have done nothing and have won nothing as well.
I think TUA would have taken even less, but his Agent was like I got you!!! Hence the “Show Me The MONEY!!!” 🤪
Tua has the 9th most guaranteed money of starting QB’s and Allen, Mahomes will be getting new deals soon and he’ll have the 11th most. That’s a steal
Even though the Stafford situation is still in resolution I have to say the rams general mindset of drafting rookies vs proven vets is a good system.
This was actually the right move by Miami. Tua runs that offense so efficiently…
When he missed games late in 2022, you saw what happened with Skyler/Bridgewater
Until you take away his first read like Buffalo and KC did last year. Then he crumbles.
@@chrisuncleahmadyea it was completely night and day watching the offense with Tua vs with Thomson and Bridgewater
The guy is a system QB & 1 concussion away from retirement! Lol! Such a Miami move guaranteeing that much money!
@@JohnDoe-kh6mtplus once you give him money, not easy to pay Tyreek and Waddle and every other weapon
Someone should count how many times Rich says “generationally enriched” in each show.
Tua had had 2 winning years and still improving
Tua is a noodle armed 1 read nonathletic QB who is not top 15 without having 2x #1 WRs. As a fan of a division rival team I was estatic when miami way overpaid him. Payed him at all. This will get mcdaniel fired and he was the problem for other teams. Not tua.
@@JohnDoe-kh6mt but you won’t say which rival? Bc unless you’re a bills fan he owns your team
@@JohnDoe-kh6mt and also this same noodle arm qb led the league in yards air yards and deep passes lmaoooo
Tua is one more concussion away from not being able to write his own last name.
@@JohnDoe-kh6mt What did Skyler Thompson and Teddy Bridgewater do when they were pressed into service late in 2022 with those WR’s? Absolutely nothing.
The QB market is insane right now
9-8 and gets a big contract and it was his first year as a starter, I hope this blows up in their faces.
Hope and cope.
Ole rich should compare Jordan Love and Baker Mayfields stats from last year and then compare their new contracts
As a Bills fan, I cheered almost as loudly when I saw Tua's contract as I did when we won the division last year. The Dolphins will be a train wreck when they can't afford their top tier skill position and defensive talent anymore because of this contract.
Extending Tua saved the Dolphins 20 million in cap space
This is the only opinion that makes sense to me. As a Packers fan it's weird seeing all these comments from fans of NFC north rivals complaining about Love's contract. If you think he sucks shouldn't you be happy they over spent?
Millionaires versus billionaires... I ain't shedding any tears...
Brock Purdys 6th grade picture 😂😂
Of course QBs who were drafted in like 2021 or whatever won't have many SB appearances or wins
i used to like this show but starting to see more and more that Rich takes a 1 minute point and stretches it out to a 12 minute segment.
It’s mid-late July, give the guy a break he has to fill the air time while there hasn’t been a game in months
How do you talk about an NFL season that hasn't even started yet?
That one surprise win in Dallas got Love a lot of money.
Inevitable win. Unprepared Dallas had to lose to the first team prepared to beat them in the play-offs.
You missed a 5th active QB with a ring: Joe Flacco
The graphic said active starting QBs
Hopefully Miami makes it to the playoffs
Miami made the playoffs the last 2 years
I've literally been waiting my whole life for the Dolphins to win a championship. Tbh at thos point, it would be nice just to win one damn playoff game.
Won’t happen with the current roster.
I love the way the media puts up stats about quarterbacks and playoff games. It’s a team game. It’s all about the trenches if your trenches are winning the game the team is probably winning the game.. Most of the time it has nothing to do with the quarterback. Do you want to solve all this nonsense about big contracts? Everyone in the national football league gets paid equally. The team that wins the Super Bowl they get double their salary as a bonus. Just a suggestion
You left out Joe Flacco who has a SB appearance and win!
The chart is correct. Flacco isn't an active starting QB. He is a back up.
You forgot Brock Purdy on the list of rookie contracts Rich
How does Rich and his team not get it. These guys are entertainers. It just so happens they do that by playing a sport. They are essentially A list actors. Winning the superbowl is like winning and Oscar. It’s the goal but not necessary. Look at it through that lense and it makes sense.
It's going to be glorious watching the Packers, Jags, and Dolphins implode due to these contracts over the next few seasons. 😂
Comparing QB contracts from different years is always such a silly exercise.
It's definitely not just Rich who does it (in fact I think everyone in the world does it) but Tua's last name doesn't have an N in it. Ta-Go-Vai-Loa. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Unless you know the Samoan language and culture, your Ted Talk is worthless. Rich and the others are pronouncing it correctly, as per Tua and his family. He's of Samoan ancestry and that's how the name is vocalized, despite how it is spelled in English. Feel free to search a few sites or track down some Samoan language/cultural experts and you will find that's how it is said.
Who were the dolphins bidding against?
GO PACK GO!!
It just needs to move to percentage of salary cap so we don't have to endure this ever season. If the teams could legally (by league rules) give players extra incentives or just plain extra bags of cash on the side, they would. It's not that the don't think the player is worth it (in most cases), it's that there is a salary cap that every dollar given to a QB is a dollar less that can be used to improve the entire team. If you let teams pay the QB whatever they want, but have to pay a QB luxury tax, they would GLADLY do that.
It's wild Rodgers has only been to 1 super bowl. They had so many blown chances in playoff games it's nuts.
Also Brady never took pay days and constructed a dynasty. I don't think Mahomes really cares as long as he gets good players
what position does rodgers play on defense?
@@chongtang9436 - Needlessly throwing home run balls to Adams and missing him by 10-15 yards when you only need 1st downs allows a California team to come to your snowy home stadium and send you to your tee time.
You gotta get a new sound person. There is a high pitched noise in all of these videos now.
No state tax in Florida. Tua wins there for sure.
We are in strange days if a Pats fan is giving the Colts owner a shoutout. Good on you, Brockman.
3:11 Imagine how bad the record would be without Burrow, Hurts, and Goff on there. They have at least delivered a SB game each.
You could do the same with highest of each position player, and unless the player plays for the Chiefs, they likely don’t have a SB win either, since salaries go up each year.
Dan Marino made 51 million for his entire career.
How long is this going to continue. Eventually they will put a cap on QB. Maybe their can make 35% of team salaries.
So many other teams fans hatin on Love because they can’t deal with the fact that their own team can’t figure out the most important position in sports at such a consistent level. Go Pack Go.
I hate judging QBs by win/loss record or playoff wins. They're only one person in a massive organization. They can't control blocking, rushing, catching, defense, special teams, roster construction, etc.
Fans: Baseball GM's are Morons.
NFL GM's : Hold My Beer
I love that they pretend to not understand contract structure
Patrick Mahomes future cap hit:
2025: $66.2m
2026: $68.8m
2027: $64.8m
tragic.
Everyone in the media is too afraid to say this contract is a huge L
You can almost hear the smirking of Chiefs fans when they're told that there will be ten QBs who will be paid more than Patrick Mahomes this coming season.
Average Annual Value ≠ Salary Cap Hit. Those are not the same thing. I don’t know why that’s so hard for media members to be honest about.
Because Tua's cap hit being 9 mil this year and 36 mil next year a doesn't make for good a good story
@@lamarbennett436 it’s $9M this year, he had $14M taken off of his original 5th year option, $23M guaranteed salary price, and converted it to a bonus to give the team $14M to go with the $9M they had in space already. Meaning, they now have $23M to get Tyreek or, Holland or, Phillips, maybe all 3 if they can get the money right to swing them all, since two of them ended up unable to play last year to close the season out. That’s harsh business but they just did that same thing to the most expensive player in the franchises history, so I don’t think it’s a stretch to think they might take that shot anyways, if it might save them from top of the market with players at other positions who have talent but haven’t had production yet in their careers so far, but could be in a good position their break out seasons, and both had injuries sideline them for the end of the season. So then they might start playing a game or two, start to feel it, and end up accepting a deal like that, just because it’s more protection than they have today, even though it’s not top of the market. They may only sign it if it’s like 2 year deal at that low price but that’s better than 0
He never said it did. He even pointed out that the AAV is just the metric that most people like to look at when comparing salaries
You will have to take the cap hit eventually, and shorter deal mean you cant go around it much. Tua contract will hit the salary cap heavy next year.
@@tigera6 Tua's cap hit next year will only be about 36 mil . Then in 2026 he can be released to save ye team money OR which is the likely outcome tyreek and Ramsey terron come of the books(this is happening anyway none of those players will be in Miami more than 2 more seasons) you play him in 2026 at cost then restructure in 2027
The only ones of the 8 that earned that $ are Burrow, Goff, and Hurts. They've all made it to the promised land, didn't win it but showed that they can get there which most QBs will struggle to make one appearance if ever make it there
Absolutely terrible management of his Loves contract. 8 good games and now equal for the highest paid QB. Absolutely ridiculous.
So are we still going to be up in arms about Daniel Jones’ contract?
It makes sense that Americas team wont pay it's employees
I think Purdy's going to opt for a lower contract value so the team can stay very competitive. He's the new Brady in that he sees the value in winning rather than getting paid, and his personality just sort of projects that. This probably leads to San Fran being able to sign great players that want to win and willing to play for less to do so.
I think longer deal for sure like Josh Allen has a 6 year contract. 6 years/$339Mill
Brady didn’t do that until he was already ultra rich. Don’t get it twisted
@@MaryMartinsen It also helped that he had a wife that was richer than him
Only way that happens is if purdy keeps his current agent
Purdy isn’t even better than garrapolo. They can’t get over the sb hump. SF gave out all these bloated contracts now the chickens come home to roost. Fred Warner, kittle, bosa, CMC now Aiyuk wants 30-35 a year, now Trent Williams wants a new contract. The super team will fall apart soon enough
Jesus you could skip the first 20 seconds of each of Rich’s sentences and still get all the context you need
Tua is getting the Goff treatment from the media it’s hard to forget how he struggled to start his first couple years. Tua Goff dak are similar in the way you have to pay more than you’d like but the alternative option of finding another qb is not a viable one for these teams
Tua has development from Miami that was criminal. No other a was treated so shabbily by a team or the media. He went thru horrific injury and came back and Miami fans and past coaches were terrible
If $55M is the price tag for ringless QBs then Mahomes might be the first $60-75M per year QB
He is only waiting on Dak to get his next deal, and then to see if there are any rumblings about guys like Josh Allen or Joe Burrow reworking their deals. If not, then he will get his deal reworked, free up some cap space for the team for that following league year, and get himself a nice fat bag of money added to what he was already going to get. That’s where people mess up this situation. Mahomes is only below other guys on the list because they got signed to their deals after he last reworked his own deal. Once he and/or the team feel like they need to do some work to his deal again, then he will immediately be bumped right back up to the top in AAV. It’s not like his gets reworked after every new deal gets done. It could be a year or two between reworks for him. But each time his comes up, he immediately jumps to the head of the pack, without question. Same goes for Josh Allen, and I would say Burrow as well if his wrist ends up being alright. As well as Lamar. I know the Ravens did that whole kerfuffle deal when he was up last time, but that was just a big show to let Lamar know that he was going to have to play the game their way, to some degree, if he would like to actually play the game of football.
@@HawgWyldFishing - The way Dak plays in the post season i wouldn't pay him $60 much less $60,000,000
A quarter of those top8 QBs only have 1 playoff win, and another quarter have no playoff wins. Meanwhile the only 3 starting qbs with a superbowl ring arent even in the top10. Where does this end?
Thanks for the breakdown cuz 2min into the video I was thinking wait only Hurts, Burrow & Goff have even gotten to the Superbowl &a number of other QBs making top-10 money only have 1-playoff win. And I'm a believer in Kyler, Herbert & Tua but that doesn't mean that they need to be paid top-5 money; let alone highest paid QB in NFL history
Why is Rich leaving out Joe Flacco (who just took Cleveland to the playoffs and became such a threat to Watson that they had to let him go to another team), from the Lords of the Ring?
he's not a starting QB
@@shinobu5359 Neither is Wilson.
@@junehanzawa5165 - Justin Fields will not be starting.
"You know are not paying on past ultimate results" hey, not everyone can be Joe Flacco.
When I see these salaries, I think about the recent poll that 39% of Americans worry they can't pay their bills each month. 39% Something is wrong with a culture where you have that kind of value placed on a game while nearly half of country is broke.. You have to do serious mental gymnastics to make that make sense.
They are going to need a separate category for quarterbacks when it comes to the salary cap.
why
I think the issue is not how much money the QBs are getting, the main issue is how much chunk it takes out of the salary cap and causes teams to let go of good players and disband good teams before they can eventually win a SB.
But these marginal QBs know what’s up, use your talent to get the most amount of money regardless if it guts the team off good players
It’s only Mahomes rn who understands the assignment
53 mil for Goff? 😂😂
Sittin on a log singing about rainbows. What a way to say it LOL.
Sounds to me like Mahomes has an SB agent who can negotiate whatever it is that he has! Patrick deserves every penny.
So what is Dak worth to Dallas now?
Should be nothing. He's trash in the playoffs.
58+
The Giants broke the market when they paid a guy that they really didn't even want, and isn't that good 40M/year, the same that Matt Stafford, who won a Super Bowl, is getting. Only 5M less than what the best QB in the league is getting (on average)
Same happened when the jags gave Christian Kirk that big deal...it allowed the actual top receivers ask for way more
Gopackgo baby thats my quarterback
The market for QBs and WRs will definitely average back to the mean in the next few years. When teams who don’t pay mid QBs $50 mil and have money for top end edge and TEs win it all, they’ll realize their mistake.
So, we are done complaining about the previous rounds of over-paid QBs?
I thought those $30 million contracts were going to sink the NFL?
Goff never won the Super bowl, but he did make it, and is currently with the only team that showed that much improvement and has the most improved team.
So yes,...we at least waited until he could prove himself!
Love didn't even do that!
I wonder where the ceiling is for sports salaries? I love sports but sheesh. I understand the owners make money hand over fist but prices will just go up.
53.1 is 100K more than 53…
Math are hard friend 😂
Let’s not forget that Trent Dilfer has a Super Bowl win as a starting QB. Sure the goal of every team is to win a Super Bowl. However, judging a QB strictly on Super Bowl appearances or wins, is not applicable in my opinion. Dan Marino only had one Super Bowl appearance and NO Super Bowl wins and would it not be reasonable that he would get paid in the way QB’s are getting paid now? Your argument Rich, is completely unfounded
Just wait till a top 10 QB decides to take less, and he has every weapon possible. Nightmare for the rest of the league
Top 8 highest paid QB’s have never won a Super Bowl….weird
As a Vikings fan. I approve.
The team you root for hasn't had a franchise QB since Fran Tarkentan. I think I'll trust the Packers and how they handle that position over a historically underachieving franchise like the Vikings.
@@billpowers6802The Packers have been historically underachieving for years because they prioritize QB over building a complete team
@@chrisuncleahmad hahaha. Literally the only team with a better winning percentage the last 30 years of NFL football is the Patriots. If you base everything solely off Super Bowl wins, you will be sorely disappointed. Whose your team? The Chiefs for the last 6 years?
Given that Florida doesn't have State tax, Tua is actually getting paid more, most likely.
People who bitch about players getting paid without winning Super Bowl just remember NFL teams gets paid regardless without winning a single game.
What about Rodger’s making 50 million per year.
And its not loves fault he had to wait behind AR12 when he got his shot he balled out
@chrisuncleahmad someone always has a excuse
raiders qb room not looking too bad
I like the comment that these are simply the going rates for QB's. That's it. They're not merit based. Not standings based. Not playoff record based. Not super bowl wins based... shall I continue??