I really hope they do. That kind of game is unacceptable for a contender :/ I seriously wonder if the Leafs aim is to get bodied by every team before they stand up for themselves. It's not even disappointing anymore its just annoying now!
for me, it was the 4-2 goal... Difference between Murray and Samsonov right there. Murray is more of what you'd call a battler, and I think Murray finds a way to make that save and keep his team within 1. He seems to make his best saves when it's tied or a 1 goal game. Samsonov is too erratic with his fundamentals also. He was all over the place early on and I had a gut feeling the Leafs would need to score at least 4 or 5.... turns out they needed 8. edit: (not placing blame on Samsonov - the Leafs were awful - but, I have noticed that about Murray and Samsonov - and I saw it again on the 4th goal)
You don't get this loud... if you... "Don't Care" "I Care"....."Sometimes I wish this team cared as much as we did" Thank you Steve for always shooting from the heart & saying what most of us wear on our sleeves...
The fact that Sheldon Keefe keeps juggling the lines night in and night out, with a dozen games left before the playoffs is mind boggling. Having 9 dmen and swapping em in and out and juggling the whole thing gives the guys a lot of time to build chemistry with the person who’s paired with them. And to have the top 6 forwards to be mashed in a blender every single game since before the trade deadline…. Time is up Sheldon, cement your lines and d pairings, let em play and build the chemistry required before the playoffs which is only a dozen games away. The players aren’t the problem in Toronto at this point, it’s all on Sheldon Keefe. Dubas has given him the pieces to succeed and it’s on him now to make something work, and I personally have very little confidence in his ability to make it happen.
@@arnoldbailey1270 Dubas has neglected the goaltending; this will haunt the team in the playoffs. The Three Stooges: Dubas, Keefe and Shanahan. Fire them all!
This is cal clutterbucks first 3 point game of his career!!! Thanks Toronto Also since 2019, the islanders are 4-6 against the leafs so they’ve been about even for the last few years. Toronto hasn’t been running the show on shit
Well, I haven't done this yet this year, here we go. First goal against was bad luck. The puck deflected off a skate in front RIGHT onto the stick of Parise. However, there was also a problem with coverage. Liljegren left his man (Parise) to pursue the man with the puck. His defense partner. McCabe couldn't get over in time to stop the pass or cover the man. Liljegren should have stayed with Parise, and McCabe should have taken the puck carrier. In any case, nothing they could do about this one. Second goal, Liljegren loses control of it in his own zone. I hate when defensemen goof around with the puck in their own zone. Get it out FIRST. He needed to be in better control of it. However, Samsonov needs to get this one. It was just a shot, even if it was a pretty good one (JUST over the pad, but the glove should have been there). This one is on both Liljegren and Samsonov. Third goal is just a string of brutal play. A weak pass behind the net allows pressure on the defense, who rush the pass to the boards. The man at the boards just flat out misplays the puck and leaves it for the Isles to pick up. A long shot is deflected in front of Samsonov by the man Reilly was SUPPOSED to be covering. No chance for Samsonov, the whole team in front of him went to sleep. Now... not a goal, but notice how the period ends. The Isles take the puck away from TWO Leafs along the boards and just skate in on Samsonov. When the period ends, there's THREE of them all around Samsonov. Where's the defense? The Leafs get one back, a nice rip from Marner. The next goal starts with a bad pass at the offensive blue line, trapping Reilly. This leads to a breakaway and a great shot in the top corner. Tough shot to stop, but it was from far enough out, I think Samsonov needed to get this one too. He's not having a great game. The next goal, Samsonov tries to clear the puck, but it ends up coming back to the front of the net as the Leafs mishandle it (again). With the puck sitting right in front of Samsonov, ALL the Leafs are looking at him and EVERY player on the ice is trying to hit the puck while Samsonov is trying to freeze it. What the Leafs needed to do here is KNOCK THE ISLES AWAY. MOVE them. They're just SO DAMN SOFT in front of their net. Where's Luke Schenn when we need him? Isles bang away at it unopposed, and it squirts in. Samsonov has to take some heat for this one too, as he started the comedy of errors with a bad pass (to be fair, it hit the ref, which was just bad luck), but the team offered him no help to prevent the goal. Sixth goal is an empty net goal. No fault here, just unfortunate they didn't get possession. The seventh goal is embarassing. A SOFT shot from the point, and a deflection by a player the Leafs player was SUPPOSED to be covering. The man should have been tied up, his stick held down. SOMETHING. Again, no chance for Samsonov with another deflection right in front of him. This was a BRUTAL performance by the whole Leafs team. The offense was anemic, the defense was nonexistent, and the goaltending was vaporous. Awful. Just awful.
For the record, on the fifth goal the puck didn’t hit the ref - it hit the Leaf’s defenseman’s stick about shoulder height- they showed a close up reply of it. Brutal goal but some bad bounces and some REALLY bad effort from just about every Leaf.
“Sometimes I wish this team cared as much as we did..” man that’s so depressing. All we want is a team that looks like they want it as much as we do! Go leafs!
To be fair clutterbuck had only played a few games since January, he was out the majority of the time with an injury, so saying since January isn't entirely fair
God bless the Leafs… I was actually just watching the 7-1 Penguins loss from early 2021 yesterday and now they give us this gem of a video Side note: that transition from yelly screamy Steve to happy innocent Steve and the ad read was one of the most underrated funniest moments of the whole video
After 70 games the Leafs have won 42 games, 1 more than the 2017-18 Leafs at the same number of games. 2017-18 Leafs who were in their second year of the rebuild. Go Leafs Go.
There was any to begin with? They had a softer dcore than edmonton before the viking arrived anyways. Now edmontons defense makes the leaves look like peewee players.
they NEEDED to dump holl for picks and flipped gustafsson for a pick , this 7-9 defense crap is not giving players time to gel choose 6 guys and that is it !!
I listen to the hockey guy with headphones in bed for his game recaps, which has some unintentional ASMR qualities to it. This video got uploaded before his and I knew there were screaming, so I waited til the morning to watch Screamo, Steve-oh… Steve.
it seemed like in the first period, the leafs were in control. they won every puck battle and race, were causing some mistakes (mayfields turn over because of the forecheck on the first goal) and samsonov looked really solid. but after that they just gave up
Good last point Steve, “ sometimes I wish this team cared as much as us fans cared” . And what you said before that, this had better be the last piece of crap games for the rest of the season! Sadly it won’t be. This is who they are. I am 100% sure of another first round exit. And it will not even go 7.
Thank you Steve. You articulate very well how I feel about the game last night. I dont think Keefe remembers how badly the leafs played after the mishmash preseason tryouts. It took way too long at beginning of the season to lock into winning line combinations. With all those trades we seem to be starting over. The time for trying is over. Start doing NOW!
6 years running. As a manager you NEVER go chasing employees and begging them to stay. You don't try to be the nice guy. and you DONT win hockey with small skilled players (Malgin........et al. )
Engvall had a 5 game point streak before this game. Dude has shown he wants to play for ny and at this point we gotta let him cook. Hes been real good.
As a Sabres fan, welcome to the allowing 7 goals club! We have a card that gets punched whenever we give up 7 or more goals, and if we do that 4 times then the 5th is free. Since you’re a new member of the club, I feel it would only be polite for us to donate that one to you for when the time is right. Have fun! :)
I was tuned out last night watching this game. Think I turned it off at 6 minute left mark during third -- haven't done that in years (turn of game before it ends regardless of results)
As much as everyone dislikes Babcock I find it hard to believe the Leafs would have choked against the Blue Jackets and Habs if he was still coaching. He at least holds guys accountable and wouldn't let the players walk all over him.
3 of those goals came from defensive give aways! And nothing on the goaltending situation?! Murray is one stretch away from a season ending injury and Samsonov is falling into that uncontrollable spiral, where the whole Leafs organization depends on him! The pressure of being a goalie in Toronto must insurmountable!
They had a big comeback from down 5-1 against new jersey back in the day. Also coming back from down 4-1 against the red wings and mike foligno scored the OT winner. I think there was another one against philly too.
Yes the rage has returned, we’re coming to that time of the year again
That Dangle plane came in hot on the runway in less than 2 seconds! 😂
It's the hap happiest season of all 🎶
There'll be steve dangle yelling and leafs fans telling you this is their year
"Sometimes I wish this team cared as much as we did" dam that hits hard
The fact that it was 3-2 early in the third at one point blows my mind
Why? That should be something that surprises none of us lol
For barely a minute lol
Islanders have been dangerous in the 3rd the whole season !
Nothing the Leafs do surprises me any more.
Steve always references L1+R1, whats the button combo for "Give up"?
Steve needs to give speeches in the locker room
Can't remember the last time Steve's anger scared Hat Guy.
That was perfect
Back in November when they also played the Islanders😂
"TEND THE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL" episode
This video is my brain for the past 50+ years. Thanks Steve.
That scream is coming from a deep, guttural part of Mr. Dangle.
Its almost like he's had tons of practice at using that scream.... wait...
That escalation in record time will be hard to top. Yikes...that third period was embarrasing.
second period was pretty bad to lol
Didn’t watch said third period, enjoyed World Baseball Classic instead.
They need to play this episode in the locker room. Well stated.
I really hope they do. That kind of game is unacceptable for a contender :/
I seriously wonder if the Leafs aim is to get bodied by every team before they stand up for themselves. It's not even disappointing anymore its just annoying now!
You know, I think this loss peeved Steve a little bit
“Folded like a napkin” is in the 2023-24 intro for sure
Like a Cheap Tent
Well that accurately describes the Toronto Maple Leafs. They were, they are, they will always be like that.
I had a feeling that game was going to be over when the Islanders made it 3-1
I did also! And it great to see!
insightful.
I went back to studying after the 2nd, did not think 7-2 would be the final though.
I had a feeling that we were gonna lose before the game even started cuz for whatever reason the leafs can't get past a 2 win streak
for me, it was the 4-2 goal... Difference between Murray and Samsonov right there. Murray is more of what you'd call a battler, and I think Murray finds a way to make that save and keep his team within 1. He seems to make his best saves when it's tied or a 1 goal game. Samsonov is too erratic with his fundamentals also. He was all over the place early on and I had a gut feeling the Leafs would need to score at least 4 or 5.... turns out they needed 8.
edit: (not placing blame on Samsonov - the Leafs were awful - but, I have noticed that about Murray and Samsonov - and I saw it again on the 4th goal)
"GO TO JAIL!!!!"
I can't breathe 😂
The most dangerous thing any team can give a fan base... Hope
i can't stop watching the goalie mask turn at 4:25.
Whoa wtf
He definitely tried to do a goalie bit but decided not to keep it lol
Oh my god I can’t look away
Gonna watch for this in every LFR now
@@TrAvi5link no I rearranged a few things and knocked it askew, and didn’t realize until later
You don't get this loud... if you... "Don't Care"
"I Care"....."Sometimes I wish this team cared as much as we did"
Thank you Steve for always shooting from the heart & saying what most of us wear on our sleeves...
"Sometimes I wish this team cared as much as we did" You speak for all of us Steve! :(
As a Bruins fan, this is peak Steve Dangle content.
As an islanders fan, I love seeing Tavares lose and I hope they never win a series because of that traitor
“Hands across America” lol. love it.
"Sometimes I wish this team cared as much as we did."
That's cold. But it's the truth.
Love this guy! “I wish this team cared as much as I do” says it all. Terrific rant video. Cheers, JPE
The fact that Sheldon Keefe keeps juggling the lines night in and night out, with a dozen games left before the playoffs is mind boggling. Having 9 dmen and swapping em in and out and juggling the whole thing gives the guys a lot of time to build chemistry with the person who’s paired with them. And to have the top 6 forwards to be mashed in a blender every single game since before the trade deadline…. Time is up Sheldon, cement your lines and d pairings, let em play and build the chemistry required before the playoffs which is only a dozen games away. The players aren’t the problem in Toronto at this point, it’s all on Sheldon Keefe. Dubas has given him the pieces to succeed and it’s on him now to make something work, and I personally have very little confidence in his ability to make it happen.
And juggling goalies too... ever really had a proven number 1
Totally agree this is all on Keefe. Remember the lines he put out there in game 7 of last years playoffs ? I believe he through it !
The only good comment here ! Yep trying a few thing before playoff start .this is extra game .
@@arnoldbailey1270 Dubas has neglected the goaltending; this will haunt the team in the playoffs. The Three Stooges: Dubas, Keefe and Shanahan. Fire them all!
Sheldon Keefe is a sub par coach. Dubas should have nixed Keefe for a better coach after the Columbus series.
Haven't watched an LRF in ages. Glad to see Steve hasn't lost the ability to lose his mind when the team gets lit up.
The Hands Across America moment was *chef's kiss*
This is cal clutterbucks first 3 point game of his career!!! Thanks Toronto
Also since 2019, the islanders are 4-6 against the leafs so they’ve been about even for the last few years. Toronto hasn’t been running the show on shit
That 4th line will be legendary for a long time. He's a beauty. They all are.
not to mention the playoff series wins since 2016, ya know, 7-0.....
5-6 now yea. About even but only 2-5 in the last 7. We needed this one. Great timing for it
@@zkid001 And tavares was -3. Happy to have him now???
I think you're lost
Well, I haven't done this yet this year, here we go.
First goal against was bad luck. The puck deflected off a skate in front RIGHT onto the stick of Parise. However, there was also a problem with coverage. Liljegren left his man (Parise) to pursue the man with the puck. His defense partner. McCabe couldn't get over in time to stop the pass or cover the man. Liljegren should have stayed with Parise, and McCabe should have taken the puck carrier.
In any case, nothing they could do about this one.
Second goal, Liljegren loses control of it in his own zone. I hate when defensemen goof around with the puck in their own zone. Get it out FIRST. He needed to be in better control of it. However, Samsonov needs to get this one. It was just a shot, even if it was a pretty good one (JUST over the pad, but the glove should have been there). This one is on both Liljegren and Samsonov.
Third goal is just a string of brutal play. A weak pass behind the net allows pressure on the defense, who rush the pass to the boards. The man at the boards just flat out misplays the puck and leaves it for the Isles to pick up. A long shot is deflected in front of Samsonov by the man Reilly was SUPPOSED to be covering. No chance for Samsonov, the whole team in front of him went to sleep.
Now... not a goal, but notice how the period ends. The Isles take the puck away from TWO Leafs along the boards and just skate in on Samsonov. When the period ends, there's THREE of them all around Samsonov. Where's the defense?
The Leafs get one back, a nice rip from Marner.
The next goal starts with a bad pass at the offensive blue line, trapping Reilly. This leads to a breakaway and a great shot in the top corner. Tough shot to stop, but it was from far enough out, I think Samsonov needed to get this one too. He's not having a great game.
The next goal, Samsonov tries to clear the puck, but it ends up coming back to the front of the net as the Leafs mishandle it (again). With the puck sitting right in front of Samsonov, ALL the Leafs are looking at him and EVERY player on the ice is trying to hit the puck while Samsonov is trying to freeze it. What the Leafs needed to do here is KNOCK THE ISLES AWAY. MOVE them. They're just SO DAMN SOFT in front of their net. Where's Luke Schenn when we need him? Isles bang away at it unopposed, and it squirts in. Samsonov has to take some heat for this one too, as he started the comedy of errors with a bad pass (to be fair, it hit the ref, which was just bad luck), but the team offered him no help to prevent the goal.
Sixth goal is an empty net goal. No fault here, just unfortunate they didn't get possession.
The seventh goal is embarassing. A SOFT shot from the point, and a deflection by a player the Leafs player was SUPPOSED to be covering. The man should have been tied up, his stick held down. SOMETHING. Again, no chance for Samsonov with another deflection right in front of him.
This was a BRUTAL performance by the whole Leafs team. The offense was anemic, the defense was nonexistent, and the goaltending was vaporous. Awful. Just awful.
You just copy and paste this from the sportsnet game comments wtf lol
For the record, on the fifth goal the puck didn’t hit the ref - it hit the Leaf’s defenseman’s stick about shoulder height- they showed a close up reply of it. Brutal goal but some bad bounces and some REALLY bad effort from just about every Leaf.
I disagree about the second goal. Samsonov was screened by Lilijgren. The defence failed twice in that moment
Great assessment. I think if we’d had Luke Schenn playing instead of Liljigren it would have been a very different outcome.
@@sosmiley9009 I did, yes. I thought it might be appropriate here too.
There's only 12 games left in the regular season, and the Leafs have absolutely NO IDEA what their lines will be. That's a serious problem.
Yup and that’s on this useless coach
@@Oldmanflyfishing Dubas, Keefe and Shanahan: the Three Stooges.
@@melvynobrien6193ubas is such an idiot for sticking with Keefe. But hey Keefe worked for Sault St Marie so I’m sure it’ll work out! /s
I enjoy these videos so much, I understand your frustration. Much love Steve
“Sometimes I wish this team cared as much as we did..” man that’s so depressing. All we want is a team that looks like they want it as much as we do! Go leafs!
The leafs will NEVER win the cup with tavares. You are all cursed!!!
Keefe needs to up his coaching game, he is imo the main reason the Leafs are all over the map
Dubas is also a bum.
Me, a kid named TJ, being yelled at by Steve for not carrying the puck 😳
Love your videos Steve. I'm just curious if your room is sound proofed?
Wish you could give me a pep talk every morning Steve. I’d shoot out of the house and get so much more done. Love your take. Keep up the good fight.
9:36 GO TO JAIL!!! Needs to be in the LFR17 intro
Engvall has actually been very noticeable for the Isles recently. In fact he’s been great. 3 goals and 5 points in his last 5 games
Agree, but it's hard to argue he breaks or makes a contender. Sandin was a real loss though in my opinion.
not this game but I agree
Leafs should not have traded him because they fucking need speed throughout that lineup
He's a better fit on the Islanders because they actually hit, so when he NEVER does, you don't notice it.
And at 6 feet 4 inches WITHOUT SKATES he is hard to miss. Poor trade by the blue team
We all want that Steve.. We want to be there watching you when they do that thing. It will be the best LFR and a beautiful summer night.
Could be worse, could be my beloved Sabres who couldn’t buy a win this entire freaking month🤬🤦🏼♀️🙄
Not to mention giving up 7 to Boston twice
To be fair clutterbuck had only played a few games since January, he was out the majority of the time with an injury, so saying since January isn't entirely fair
Exactly
Cal Clutterbuck masterclass
Thank you, Steve. I wish this video was longer.
God bless the Leafs… I was actually just watching the 7-1 Penguins loss from early 2021 yesterday and now they give us this gem of a video
Side note: that transition from yelly screamy Steve to happy innocent Steve and the ad read was one of the most underrated funniest moments of the whole video
For the side note: it makes me laugh so hard.
After 70 games the Leafs have won 42 games, 1 more than the 2017-18 Leafs at the same number of games.
2017-18 Leafs who were in their second year of the rebuild. Go Leafs Go.
Time for Steve's Heart Rate Monitor to show up again.
5:49 😂 you never miss Steve
All this without Mathew Barzal and most of the game without Brock Nelson
My confidence level in this defense is going down by the game.
There was any to begin with? They had a softer dcore than edmonton before the viking arrived anyways. Now edmontons defense makes the leaves look like peewee players.
playoff mode
they NEEDED to dump holl for picks and flipped gustafsson for a pick , this 7-9 defense crap is not giving players time to gel choose 6 guys and that is it !!
We sacrificed the WBC final for this.
ouch
Good deal. Damn good deal.
Steve could of made a full dang it video just from this game.
That intro was... the shortest yet the best one this season.
here we go ladies and gentlemen
Wow...this was a very passionate vudeo. Excellent job Steve 👌🏻👌🏻
Samsonov looking like Campbell!!! Nicely Done!!! BOOK IT!!!
Isles will never forget when you took their captain.
Oh baby, Leaf’s 56th consecutive cupless season, Let’s GOOO!
I listen to the hockey guy with headphones in bed for his game recaps, which has some unintentional ASMR qualities to it.
This video got uploaded before his and I knew there were screaming, so I waited til the morning to watch Screamo, Steve-oh… Steve.
After that Sorokin save the game flipped on its head
Engvall 3g 2a +2 so far, and doing little things that are not on score sheet break up plays with reach, beat out icing. Thanks much.
So Steve have you already picked which moment from this ep is going to be in the LFR 17 intro? My vote is "GO TO JAIL"
Great Open
it seemed like in the first period, the leafs were in control. they won every puck battle and race, were causing some mistakes (mayfields turn over because of the forecheck on the first goal) and samsonov looked really solid. but after that they just gave up
I love it when Steve goes Full Costanza
Good last point Steve, “ sometimes I wish this team cared as much as us fans cared” . And what you said before that, this had better be the last piece of crap games for the rest of the season! Sadly it won’t be. This is who they are. I am 100% sure of another first round exit. And it will not even go 7.
I knew this 3 years ago already and I stick by it: Keefe simply isn't a Stanley Cup caliber coach.
Loved the intro where Steve is super agitated about the game and then automatically switches to commercial mode...lol.
Pens fans feeling the same way right now. Throwing the season away
You crack me up Steve! Was trying to get the game last night but SN wanted me to upgrade glad I didn’t waste the money
Hands across America... ROFLMAO... Almost spit out my coffee with that one..
lmao recording the ad pregame is hilarious and i hope u keep/start doing it!
First term of the Second Bush Administration was in 2004, just for the record.
Love it when the Leafs lose a game, just to watch Steve go ballistic
Thank you Steve. You articulate very well how I feel about the game last night. I dont think Keefe remembers how badly the leafs played after the mishmash preseason tryouts. It took way too long at beginning of the season to lock into winning line combinations. With all those trades we seem to be starting over. The time for trying is over. Start doing NOW!
Even after JT retires after 5 years, those fans will say those sane things chanted in the crowd last night.
Keefe has no idea what he's doing. At this point I think he's just picking his lines at random.
Fifth place out of thirty-two teams...yeah, you're right...
@@geographyinaction7814 doesnt matter where they're placed. The leafs dont know what their lines are going into playoffs
Can we talk about how the helmet moves in the background just for a second 😮
Awesome video Steve
6 years running. As a manager you NEVER go chasing employees and begging them to stay. You don't try to be the nice guy. and you DONT win hockey with small skilled players (Malgin........et al. )
9:35 has me screeching
1st round exit, you know how it's going to end. Just embrace it.
🤓
Welcome back Steve
Engvall had a 5 game point streak before this game. Dude has shown he wants to play for ny and at this point we gotta let him cook. Hes been real good.
Best Hat Guy and Steve opening!!
As a Sabres fan, welcome to the allowing 7 goals club! We have a card that gets punched whenever we give up 7 or more goals, and if we do that 4 times then the 5th is free. Since you’re a new member of the club, I feel it would only be polite for us to donate that one to you for when the time is right. Have fun! :)
I was tuned out last night watching this game. Think I turned it off at 6 minute left mark during third -- haven't done that in years (turn of game before it ends regardless of results)
That was playoff style hockey, did Kerfoot, Tavares, Bunting, Nylander and Lafferty play.
Tavares def played. The boos let you know...
That ad read was definitely after the game. I can see the fire and anger in your eyes 😂😂😂😂
Keefe should play this LFR in the dressing room. The whole thing. And then loop the line “I wish this team cared as much as we did.”
Oh dear what have I done. I decided to try watching Steve's video at 2x Play back speed. LMAO! (I need sleep)
Watching this game last night made me have that feeling again…..I may break all my TVs in my house if history repeats itself.
As much as everyone dislikes Babcock I find it hard to believe the Leafs would have choked against the Blue Jackets and Habs if he was still coaching. He at least holds guys accountable and wouldn't let the players walk all over him.
This game win actually brings the islanders further from the bruins. They are holding the 1WC and are pulling away
"Embarrassing to garbage", now that's a quote to remember, and not in a good way though.
3 of those goals came from defensive give aways! And nothing on the goaltending situation?! Murray is one stretch away from a season ending injury and Samsonov is falling into that uncontrollable spiral, where the whole Leafs organization depends on him! The pressure of being a goalie in Toronto must insurmountable!
Especially when the goaltenders are all mediocre at best.
Well at least he let the intro pla-
*LEAFSLOSEEMBARRASSIN-*
Isles fan here Steve, I was just as shocked as you when Clutter scored not 1 but 2 goals for the game.
I was at a trivia night tonight.....i have never been happier at age 36 to be at a trivia night. Thanks leafs
What is considered to be the greatest Maple Leaf's comeback in a playoff game? Asking as a Bruins fan.
They had a big comeback from down 5-1 against new jersey back in the day. Also coming back from down 4-1 against the red wings and mike foligno scored the OT winner. I think there was another one against philly too.
Islanders want it. They are fighting for the wildcard spot and the buds are sitting comfortably. Also how sound proof is your room?
Did anybody else notice the goalie mask move at 4:26?
Yes wtf
Tired of hearing Steve scream and yell like a baby.
Best intro to date
as a bruins fan, this is fantastic