The standard for a crossfit pullup is to go from straight arms to chin above bar (these were actually chest-to-bar). The most efficient way to accomplish this is doing a butterfly kipping pullup (what you saw most of them doing) or a standard kip, in which you generate momentum with your hips. You're doing the same amount of work as a strict pullup (work = force * distance) but you're using more musculature to do so. This allows you to do more work over a shorter amount of time.
True. The argument many would say is "what about injuries" but there are less injuries in CF than any other sports such as football, soccer and basketball. And the injuries that often occur in CF is made from beginners being to eager.
Now this is my kind of sport! I'm not huge into football, basketball and I loathe baseball. Since I love working I think it's cool they made a Crossfit competition.
They are doing butterfly pullups they are intended for speed not for strength kipping pull ups you actually drop below the bar and use a up and down momentum to bring you to the bar as opposed to butterflys which use a circular momentum, crossfit is about doing the workout at a high intense but regulated pace
HettesKvek Well, maybe because bodybuilding is made of correctly exercises, focusing the muscle that is working. Crossfit is resistance and velocity. There are so many ways to do the "right" thing. I like both.
+TheGoDeus crossfit is everything . endurance, balance, plyometrics, resistance training, calisthenics, olympic lifting. you could do a workout that includes building up to your 1 RM in squat cleans, and do muscle ups and Double Unders between sets.
Am I the first person to see that Scott Panchik only did 90 one-arm db snatches? He only did 10 rep from the 80 mark. Somebody should have seen that. I'm shocked.
No, I thought that at first as well but if you count his individual reps, and you can count them, you'll see he only does 10.It was a good catch by Rune. Unexpected from Panchik.
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That's not just it. Unless you've done crossfit and did the workouts at the level and intensity these guys in the video did then you would know what he means by monsters
I don't understand the pull up technique they're using... They look like they could hurt themselves. I believe in staying static when doing a pull up, is it different when doing them so quickly in a competition? Just looks odd and weird for the back is all...
CrossFit always looks easier than it actually is. All of these exercises by themselves aren't very difficult, but strung together one-after-the-other, is very taxing cardiovascular-wise. Try it, and you'll discover what I mean. It's kind of like racing a marathon runner. You watch him go and you think "I can run faster than that!". The truth is you can, but you still have 26 more miles to go....
***** They would last rather easily. They wouldn't win it, or even do well, but they could do it. Crossfitters literally couldn't compete at strongman.
Dan J obviously not, that's not what they train for. Aside from, that have you seen how big these guys are compared to real strongmen? Strongmen are massive and meant for a whole different type of competition; they aren't exactly the type to do burpees or pullups, but a lot of lifts are the same.
TheChrisRAWRS Look I wasn't saying high level crossfitters aren't good athletes. My point is that Strongmen could perform the movements in the Crossfit Games (with the possible exception of pull ups, depending on the strongman), but Crossfitters literally couldn't compete at the Worlds Strongest Man. The weight required is just far too much for them. Saying a strongman wouldn't last in this event is far less accurate than saying the opposite.
Dan J Yea man, of course they couldn't. But, the only validation to that is the fact that the weight strongmen work with is superhuman. As far as movements go, scale the weight down and anyone with the skill to carry out the lift could do it. Both strongmen and crossfitters hang snatch a dumbbell, but strong men do it with 250+ lbs. Strongmen could in fact do many of the workouts these guys do, but the only fair way to go about it is if these guys did strongman events scaled down to their strength level. No matter how hard they train, these men can never get into strongman level weights. More with your point, it would definitely be an easier transition for strongmen to do this since now they can work with weights that are way less than their warm-ups.
....what exactly is bad form? i dont do crossfit, im not a fan of crossfit, but these guys do it at a good level. you may see bad form at ur local gym but i dont see these guys doing anything wrong at all.
Rich looks exactly like he can snatch 300 lbs if he's proficient at oly lifts, which he is. There are very few crossfitters out there that are as good at oly lifts as rich is.
using your body swing and momentum for those "pull-ups" puts the pull-up definition in a different level, doing this way is obviously easier than doing dead pull-ups (the way I think you should correctly do them) with full stretch of the arm in both ends, I can probably do 20 per set, but the way these guys are doing it I think (and with all due respect) is not a clean way, yes you get muscle benefit, but you get too much help from the momentum and swinging, and it looks funny, sorry. I feel cross fit is a way to introduce common people to working out in an easier way, but making this a competition kind of defeat the purpose,
Having done both strict pullups and butterfly, i actually have more trouble with the butterfly because of the cardio it introduces. yes you're using momentum into the next pullup, but your generating that momentum. so yes they're faster and you still get the benefit. also, in this workout they are doing chest-to-bar pullups. in a normal strict pullup, you only need to get your whole head above the bar to make it count, for these to count your chest must touch the bar below the clavicle.
If you try to extend your arm completely straight when you go down and when you go up go all the way to the limit (muscle-up if you can) those are difficult pull-ups, not using momentum but doing them slow, I am not undermining the "butterfly" as you call them, but I personally don't get any stronger doing that style, is just like you mention, more of a cardio multiple exercise, as you get stronger cardio becomes part of any routine as you have more strength to do anything faster and clean, I am not in the philosophy to start easy, I like to start difficult and progress exponentially, I appreciate your intelligent comment, thank you.
It's a different kind of a pullup with cardio as a target. Yes, it is easier to do a butterfly pullup when you learn how to do it, but they are difficult to learn. Crossfitters do heavy loaded dead pullups aswell, the butterfly one is just a different way to look at it, not an easy way out. When you get a total of 400 reps to finnish of 4 difficult excersises, you dont do the dead hang pullup because you NEED to finnish fast. So in an event like this, it's all about the cardio, you dont build strength doing kipping pullups, you build it with the dead hang ones, then you use that strength to kill the timer when you have to do the quick butterfly ones.
+marzbite " cross fit is a way to introduce common people to working out in an easier way" LMFAO. Dude.... working out in an easier way ? HAVE YOU EVEN FUCKING TRIED KIPPING PULLUPS ?! shit is so fucking hard. All these comments are really funny, because if you've ever tried crossfit once in your life, you wouldn't be polluting the comment section with ignorance :(
I'm starting to think youtube has professional trollers to make sure people are more active arguing shit out and spending more time on youtube so they can advertise more
Wtf is wrong with the pullups? Its more on a power workout not building muscle. You finish a work in a certain amount of time. Din your physics teacher teach you that? Pretty funny, non-crossfitters should try it one day and see how hard is it. LOL
They never hurt themselves doing these pullups. These pullups are done for efficiency fast and quick. These guys do dead hang pullups a lot in their training and all of them can do at least 15 dead hang pullups
The fact that these guys are that strong and athletic and haven't bulked up is awesome....no one would expect some of these guys to do over 300 ILB OHS insane..
Say what you want, everyone has a "unique" viewpoint. In a world full of self centered narcissistic mirror hugging tools out for themselves, you see a sport where the top competitor is right their cheering on his fellow competitor after he finished. People bash CrossFit, fine have fun with that. How do you have the tallest building in the world? You either tear down everyone else's building or you build a taller building. Ones easier and is usually the path taken by the small minded and lazy.
"Oh look at me. I'm a bodybuilder. I practice no functional movements. Therefore, my training is completely useless in the real world. I'm also fat 11.5 months out of the year". Btw, Rich Froning is about 200lbs. And if any of them are around 170lbs, it's because they are relatively small. Look at Dan Bailey. He's jacked, but he's only 180lbs because he's only 5'7".
Putting the leaders in the middle (like swimming) is not a positive. There is a reason they do it in swimming, having to do with center lanes having an advantage in the water (and earned by previous heat times). Crossfit should go back to what they used to do by having the leaders in the number 1 spot.
Is that why Rich Froning has a 300 pound snatch and 385 clean and jerk which are pretty close to Olympic weights? but yet he can also run 5k's easy and do tons of pull ups which most big Olympic weight lifters can't do because they are to big? please explain that
the athleticism demonstrated at these games is uncanny...but on a side note; I wonder why there are so many commercials for "female booty workouts" when I haven't seen any other program that has produced more lifted and ROUND gluts than Crossfit. The research is already done and proven.
Clicked on video thinking hey let's give it a chance.. Saw them throwing a 20lb ball, thought hey.. They're warming up okay, saw them start throwing a fit on a bar for 2sec intervals... He'll no!! Gayest shit I've ever seen in my life
The winner of this workout in the Africa regional had 44 reps left when time expired and 12 athletes finished the workout in this regional, I guess some of these guys should move to Africa.
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i think he jsut means he thinks its borring.. cuz he does say props to those who like it.. i mean... truthfully its not the most fun thing to watch guys sweating... haha
Didn't read the rest of your comment, but it's possible for somebody to be narcissistic and to cheer on your competitor after you finished. Just saiyan brah.
The standard for a crossfit pullup is to go from straight arms to chin above bar (these were actually chest-to-bar). The most efficient way to accomplish this is doing a butterfly kipping pullup (what you saw most of them doing) or a standard kip, in which you generate momentum with your hips. You're doing the same amount of work as a strict pullup (work = force * distance) but you're using more musculature to do so. This allows you to do more work over a shorter amount of time.
Strict reps that actually target specific movement/muscles are superior to sloppy, shitty reps which are a waste of time.
WHAT A MAN! Love Rich Froning, so down to earth and humble. Awesome job too Dan!!!
I don't know WHY people hate on CF.
It's great to watch, It's great to do... What's not to like?
These guys are MONSTERS. Make no mistake about it.
True.
The argument many would say is "what about injuries" but there are less injuries in CF than any other sports such as football, soccer and basketball. And the injuries that often occur in CF is made from beginners being to eager.
It is an international competition. People from every continent compete.
i'm liking the Killswitch Engage in the background. good choice!!
Cross Fit is my fav. as it gives strength and more stability and makes you strong.
Now this is my kind of sport! I'm not huge into football, basketball and I loathe baseball. Since I love working I think it's cool they made a Crossfit competition.
What if Froning gets his power from that necklace 😮
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this workout is brutal... damn 100 pistols? my legs hurt just watching
These guys are kings of stamina esp. who won.
They are doing butterfly pullups they are intended for speed not for strength kipping pull ups you actually drop below the bar and use a up and down momentum to bring you to the bar as opposed to butterflys which use a circular momentum, crossfit is about doing the workout at a high intense but regulated pace
I would love to see any professional athlete try these events
crossfit is definitely great for the use of conditioning, for those who hates on the sport maybe you are just on a different page
HettesKvek Well, maybe because bodybuilding is made of correctly exercises, focusing the muscle that is working. Crossfit is resistance and velocity. There are so many ways to do the "right" thing. I like both.
+TheGoDeus
crossfit is everything . endurance, balance, plyometrics, resistance training, calisthenics, olympic lifting. you could do a workout that includes building up to your 1 RM in squat cleans, and do muscle ups and Double Unders between sets.
I don't like CrossFit. What's the point of throwing a ball up and the pull ups are just terrible
Am I the first person to see that Scott Panchik only did 90 one-arm db snatches? He only did 10 rep from the 80 mark.
Somebody should have seen that. I'm shocked.
Good catch I wonder what the hell happened there, did he just not do 10 reps? Or perhaps there was some other error damn that's crazy
Rune Havaas Nope he did 100 reps
Simon Buteau No, he only did ten reps at the 80 mark. Rune is right. Never noticed that before. What happened to the judge???
Rune Havaas The top thing jumps from 371 to 382.. Wonder if the score was just off and he was on the wrong number?
No, I thought that at first as well but if you count his individual reps, and you can count them, you'll see he only does 10.It was a good catch by Rune. Unexpected from Panchik.
👌Strong men🏋
I love coming back to watch this for the fact of how quickly Rich goes to root for his competition after he is done
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Rich is an absolute beast! Ultimate specimen
No. I think they´re called kip pullups. And have some weird ruling to them.
Rich is a beast! Awesome
That's not just it. Unless you've done crossfit and did the workouts at the level and intensity these guys in the video did then you would know what he means by monsters
They should mic Rich during the games this year and sell it as a workout track.
Every person who buys tickets for this competition, should get a mcFit contract and grab some popcorn..
Glory days
Это ахренительно!
Делать одни и те же движения? Бессмысленная нагрузка, бессмысленный «спорт»
Looks like a lot of potential for injury ! Interesting , but I think I'll stick with my Total gym, and my treadmill .
its not a strict pull up. its called a butterfly pull up
They should have given Froning Spealler's judge.
The funny thing is nobody got hurt during the 4 weekends of competition or at the games
Can't believe I watched any of this. Props to everyone who likes this, but its not for me. No disrespect.
24:00 grey shirt: not impressed
Hahahaha xD LooL
Jeremy Thiel. Crossfit. Austin, texas
The snatches, from what I know, can't be assisted by pushing with the other hand into your knee... or am I wrong?
That would be correct now
During the time of this event that wasn't made a rule yet
Gajab
OMG! Let's call it the Real Life Hunger Games...
I don't understand the pull up technique they're using... They look like they could hurt themselves. I believe in staying static when doing a pull up, is it different when doing them so quickly in a competition? Just looks odd and weird for the back is all...
Walk was even dangerous for my dad, he broke his ankle walking.. weird for the back? Froning still competing with that type of pull ups
что это за подтягивания?
This is hilarious.
looks stupid easy
Chad B i bodybiuld 2 times a week i could totes smoke thees n00bs lol
CrossFit always looks easier than it actually is. All of these exercises by themselves aren't very difficult, but strung together one-after-the-other, is very taxing cardiovascular-wise. Try it, and you'll discover what I mean. It's kind of like racing a marathon runner. You watch him go and you think "I can run faster than that!". The truth is you can, but you still have 26 more miles to go....
Rick James then you do it and beat their times.
is it me or are these guys lying about their weight? Its like they all added at least 10 lbs to their stats
Have you seen any of the power lifting events? Clean and jerking 355lbs is hardly girl strength.
am i the only person who do not agree with their pull up?
strongman for women
***** and a crossfitter wouldn't make it past the warm-up at strongman.
***** They would last rather easily. They wouldn't win it, or even do well, but they could do it.
Crossfitters literally couldn't compete at strongman.
Dan J
obviously not, that's not what they train for. Aside from, that have you seen how big these guys are compared to real strongmen? Strongmen are massive and meant for a whole different type of competition; they aren't exactly the type to do burpees or pullups, but a lot of lifts are the same.
TheChrisRAWRS Look I wasn't saying high level crossfitters aren't good athletes. My point is that Strongmen could perform the movements in the Crossfit Games (with the possible exception of pull ups, depending on the strongman), but Crossfitters literally couldn't compete at the Worlds Strongest Man. The weight required is just far too much for them. Saying a strongman wouldn't last in this event is far less accurate than saying the opposite.
Dan J
Yea man, of course they couldn't. But, the only validation to that is the fact that the weight strongmen work with is superhuman. As far as movements go, scale the weight down and anyone with the skill to carry out the lift could do it. Both strongmen and crossfitters hang snatch a dumbbell, but strong men do it with 250+ lbs. Strongmen could in fact do many of the workouts these guys do, but the only fair way to go about it is if these guys did strongman events scaled down to their strength level. No matter how hard they train, these men can never get into strongman level weights.
More with your point, it would definitely be an easier transition for strongmen to do this since now they can work with weights that are way less than their warm-ups.
Treinamento do Goku!
those are not pull ups. Dolphin ups
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 rofl
Дааа не долго им осталось с такими перегрузкамт.
Rich looks a little like Nick Swisher
....what exactly is bad form? i dont do crossfit, im not a fan of crossfit, but these guys do it at a good level. you may see bad form at ur local gym but i dont see these guys doing anything wrong at all.
chest bars make me lol
18:06 dan bailey .... :D
Gains? I would rather be strong than look strong.
Ive been complaining more than do it. Lol
Amo
brutal
damn, I call pink shorts.
Seriously?...
Walk when you're 60 or silencing the "what ifs" in your head. You choose.
They are fucking Roman warriors
Y NOT JUST DO ALL 100 IN ONE SPOT?
+G.A.W.D BODYFITNESS they don't do all in one spot for the spectators. So everyone watching can know how many reps are left
Those aren’t pull ups! LOL
No gains were made this day.
dan bailey trains with rich but on events hes a far behind rich
Why couldn't they just call it the middle east regional?
because it's like a playoff
middle east? like afghanistan and iraq?
hahaha yeah
+joku Es afghanistan isnt in the middle east.......or anywhere near iraq for that matter
That's my bad but you probably got my point anyway.
unreal
24:00 guy in grey shirt;"Not impressed"
2019 pullups weird. its look like a fish doing full ups.
2020 quarantine?
O.o ppp
K I ML;kikimukiukkik
Rich looks exactly like he can snatch 300 lbs if he's proficient at oly lifts, which he is. There are very few crossfitters out there that are as good at oly lifts as rich is.
using your body swing and momentum for those "pull-ups" puts the pull-up definition in a different level, doing this way is obviously easier than doing dead pull-ups (the way I think you should correctly do them) with full stretch of the arm in both ends, I can probably do 20 per set, but the way these guys are doing it I think (and with all due respect) is not a clean way, yes you get muscle benefit, but you get too much help from the momentum and swinging, and it looks funny, sorry.
I feel cross fit is a way to introduce common people to working out in an easier way, but making this a competition kind of defeat the purpose,
Having done both strict pullups and butterfly, i actually have more trouble with the butterfly because of the cardio it introduces. yes you're using momentum into the next pullup, but your generating that momentum. so yes they're faster and you still get the benefit. also, in this workout they are doing chest-to-bar pullups. in a normal strict pullup, you only need to get your whole head above the bar to make it count, for these to count your chest must touch the bar below the clavicle.
If you try to extend your arm completely straight when you go down and when you go up go all the way to the limit (muscle-up if you can) those are difficult pull-ups, not using momentum but doing them slow, I am not undermining the "butterfly" as you call them, but I personally don't get any stronger doing that style, is just like you mention, more of a cardio multiple exercise, as you get stronger cardio becomes part of any routine as you have more strength to do anything faster and clean, I am not in the philosophy to start easy, I like to start difficult and progress exponentially, I appreciate your intelligent comment, thank you.
It's a different kind of a pullup with cardio as a target. Yes, it is easier to do a butterfly pullup when you learn how to do it, but they are difficult to learn. Crossfitters do heavy loaded dead pullups aswell, the butterfly one is just a different way to look at it, not an easy way out. When you get a total of 400 reps to finnish of 4 difficult excersises, you dont do the dead hang pullup because you NEED to finnish fast. So in an event like this, it's all about the cardio, you dont build strength doing kipping pullups, you build it with the dead hang ones, then you use that strength to kill the timer when you have to do the quick butterfly ones.
+marzbite
" cross fit is a way to introduce common people to working out in an easier way"
LMFAO. Dude.... working out in an easier way ? HAVE YOU EVEN FUCKING TRIED KIPPING PULLUPS ?! shit is so fucking hard. All these comments are really funny, because if you've ever tried crossfit once in your life, you wouldn't be polluting the comment section with ignorance :(
Sorry for my comment, I think was childish to even go to this video in the first place. Peace.
Wtf!! Fronning is a cybog right?
Bill, Rich doesn't need to practice this event because he's going to pace it entirely by feel.
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I'm starting to think youtube has professional trollers to make sure people are more active arguing shit out and spending more time on youtube so they can advertise more
You could get paid some serious money.
Plot twisted: you are a paid troller speculating there are more paid trollers out there.
just imagine you ran 5 miles did 100 squats 200 pushups and 50 pullups you would mentally think rich did it faster then you
Rich Froning's attitude = Respect!
8:42 Rich Froning opened the Beast Mode.
WHy do they call the winner the fittest man on earth if its not an international competition?
the actual crossfit games is an international event. this is only one of the regional qualifying events to go to the games.
Zane Johnson thank you
Anybody noticed that Panchik missed 10 reps of Snatches? He only performed 10 in the 60-80's series (min 21:00)
Miguel León I mean min 22:30 lol
+Miguel León he got away with it!
Ur a fuckin* moron lmao just stop watching
Wtf is wrong with the pullups? Its more on a power workout not building muscle. You finish a work in a certain amount of time. Din your physics teacher teach you that? Pretty funny, non-crossfitters should try it one day and see how hard is it. LOL
I had doubts about Rich winning a 3rd year in a row. But not anymore, he's gonna crush the competition.
They never hurt themselves doing these pullups. These pullups are done for efficiency fast and quick. These guys do dead hang pullups a lot in their training and all of them can do at least 15 dead hang pullups
Dubious..
top fitness
you do realize that bodybuilders require an immense amount of cardio to get to 3-4% bodyfat, right?
The fact that these guys are that strong and athletic and haven't bulked up is awesome....no one would expect some of these guys to do over 300 ILB OHS insane..
those pull ups look hysterical. i wonder how fast they can do them with strict form. I'm sure it will still be amazingly fast.
Say what you want, everyone has a "unique" viewpoint. In a world full of self centered narcissistic mirror hugging tools out for themselves, you see a sport where the top competitor is right their cheering on his fellow competitor after he finished. People bash CrossFit, fine have fun with that. How do you have the tallest building in the world? You either tear down everyone else's building or you build a taller building. Ones easier and is usually the path taken by the small minded and lazy.
"Oh look at me. I'm a bodybuilder. I practice no functional movements. Therefore, my training is completely useless in the real world. I'm also fat 11.5 months out of the year".
Btw, Rich Froning is about 200lbs. And if any of them are around 170lbs, it's because they are relatively small. Look at Dan Bailey. He's jacked, but he's only 180lbs because he's only 5'7".
Putting the leaders in the middle (like swimming) is not a positive. There is a reason they do it in swimming, having to do with center lanes having an advantage in the water (and earned by previous heat times). Crossfit should go back to what they used to do by having the leaders in the number 1 spot.
Is that why Rich Froning has a 300 pound snatch and 385 clean and jerk which are pretty close to Olympic weights? but yet he can also run 5k's easy and do tons of pull ups which most big Olympic weight lifters can't do because they are to big? please explain that
the athleticism demonstrated at these games is uncanny...but on a side note; I wonder why there are so many commercials for "female booty workouts" when I haven't seen any other program that has produced more lifted and ROUND gluts than Crossfit. The research is already done and proven.
Rich Froning's attitude = Respect!
Clicked on video thinking hey let's give it a chance.. Saw them throwing a 20lb ball, thought hey.. They're warming up okay, saw them start throwing a fit on a bar for 2sec intervals... He'll no!! Gayest shit I've ever seen in my life
The winner of this workout in the Africa regional had 44 reps left when time expired and 12 athletes finished the workout in this regional, I guess some of these guys should move to Africa.
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Osso !
Os caras são fodas mesmo.
Ricardo Santos fodas demaissss!!!
WB not easier for tall people. They have to travel further down. It’s a misnomer like Fran cough.
i think he jsut means he thinks its borring.. cuz he does say props to those who like it.. i mean... truthfully its not the most fun thing to watch guys sweating... haha
Didn't read the rest of your comment, but it's possible for somebody to be narcissistic and to cheer on your competitor after you finished. Just saiyan brah.
How heavy was the dumbbell?
All the people who think they arent 'real' pullups, i mean common, i bet u couldnt do 100 of these pulllups
anyone notice how the non-crossfitters make fun of the pullups but not the pistol squats? hahaha
because they are actually doing it properly in terms of bodybuilding
because they are actually doing it properly in terms of bodybuilding.
Who the fuck gives a fuck ! Let it be, all of these guys are just as fit as can be .. Just admire