Baelor is a former king and ancestor of Daenerys. He was called Baelor the Blessed because he was highly religious. The great Sept (church/cathedral in their religion, and the building they were in front of for the execution) is named after him and that's his statue Arya is on.
Michelle Fairley is such a great actress, she just make every scene she is in better. Her reaction at 19:27, so short, yet so charged with emotion. She and Charles Dance are just beyond.
She’s so good that I don’t even need to see the scene to know exactly what you’re talking about. Her reaction to seeing Robb again has stuck with me since the first time I saw it, well over 10 years ago.
They both are definitely on a different level. I would also add the amazing Peter Dinklage and I also love Jack Gleeson's performance in a part for which he will always be remembered.
i wasn’t surprised by Ned’s death, when i first saw Sean Bean’s name in the credits, i thought he would die in the very first episode 😂 he's pretty well-known for dying in every movie he’s in
He hasn't died in the Snowpiercer TV series. Although some might argue that his current fate amounts to a living death. The series was seemingly canceled after S03, but S04 has already been filmed. So maybe death still awaits him.
@@x_trio_3_po333 I think that is actually one of the fake outs I was thinking about. Because when we first see him in flashbacks he is assumed dead at that point. Other examples include the series "Missing" and ...no the other fake out I was thinking of was during his villain era and I was thinking of "Flightplan". There are probably others that I was thinking of for the death fake out, but I'm blanking right now.
Ned said he swore "by the seven" that Joffrey was the true heir. But... he doesn't believe the seven gods. Like most Northmen, he worships the "old gods". So that's a subtle way of not swearing anything.
Could be, but I would guess that the entire speech was scripted by someone on Lannister's team, like Sansa's words when she was asking for mercy. I don't think the Lannisters would risk Ned just coming up with something on his own.
Yep, Baelor is definitely a very GoT specific word. It's the name of a Targaryen king from about 100 years before the Mad King. He could have been considered mad as well, but he was a much more of a kind of madness that didn't kill anyone but himself. He was a crazily devout guy who tried to get the maesters to change the use of ravens for messages to doves. Then there was the time when he walked through a pit full of snakes to save his brother that was being held there by the Dornish, thinking his faith would make the snakes refuse to bite him. They did. A lot. He was in a coma for a long time after that. In the end, he died by malnutrition when he went too far with fasting. I mean, he also locked his sisters away to save them from sin, but they were kept in very comfortable lodgings. Sure, they couldn't go anywhere, but it's not like they were locked away in a tiny cell and chained to a wall. They were kind of like enforced nuns. But they weren't hurt. Anyway, he was beloved for the most part, and was called Baelor the Blessed. The big sept (church) in King's Landing is called the Sept of Baelor, and the statue Arya is hiding behind is a statue of Baelor.
Having read the books, episodes like this actually made me look forward to going to work on Monday, to see people WTF'ing about Ned. And it really cements early-on that no one is safe.
Since Lexi is a fan of Sean Bean's acting she should check out the 3 season TV series, "Snowpiercer". And the James Bond film, "Golden Eye" (1995), and the Christian Bale film, "Equilibrium" (2002). I know he's been in a ton more, but those are the ones where he played some interesting characters.
No spoilers - This perfectly sums up Joffreys character, killing Ned has zero tactical advantage, he does it just for spite and to punish Sansa. Even Cersei (who knows Ned knows about her children's true parentage) tries to stop him along with Lord Varys. Joffrey is King, so can make this decisions without any input from anyone else and this is his first terrible decision - this will cause a war with the North and to top it all off they have Jamie... Sansa is now trapped, even more than before, she can't leave and is a hostage of house Lannister.
It also sums up Cersei, because Cersei actually _had_ the authority to stop the execution as Queen Regent and didn't use it. She's a lot better at clawing her way to power than she is at _using_ power for anything constructive.
In the books it is heavily implied Littlefinger advised Joffrey to execute him. Notice how, unlike Cercei, Varys and others he does not go up to Joffrey to protest, he was expecting it. In reality, it was Littlefinger that killed him.
It's great (and also surprising, when you think about it) how quickly we forget how lucky we are. We have soap, and germ theory, and antiseptics, and antibiotics, and sterile bandages. If you get a cut, you clean it and bandage it and move on with life. It's so easy to forget that infection is a real and really dangerous thing. For effectively all of human history up until like the last century, a papercut offered a non-zero chance of killing you in agony weeks later. Certainly substantial slashes or punctures from a weapon (which are _staggeringly_ non-sterile to begin with...) leaves you with bad odds from the get-go, and there was nothing you could do but hope. As soon as you open the skin, infection is a real and ever-present risk, and if it happens, you're pretty much screwed.
Walder Frey is one of my favourite and least favourite characters(no spoilers). His abrasive attitude, his saying whatever the hell he wants because he's an old man...just amazing, epic and funny all at once. Theres some stuff thats in the books, but not the show that Lord Tywin's sister Genna(not included in the series, though she was one of my fave characters) was wed to one of Walder Frey's sons(and not even his heir)because Tywins' father Tytos wanted to make Walder Frey happy. Tywin was the only one who spoke against it, and he was ten years old at the time. Apparently, the son she wed lived in fear of Tywin his whole life and it was said that Tywin gave him "a bad belly"as his wedding gift. 7:51, I'm sure they will be happy together. (It's said that, unfortunately, a lot of them take after Walder and have his weaselish look). Aemon's brother Aegon(the Unlikely, as he was the fourth son of a fourth son)or "Egg"had a number of events that had his uncles, brothers and everyone who would have been king die out before he was chosen(after Aemon refused the Throne). Aemon joined the Nights Watch so no one could use him politically against his little brother. He also traveled with Ser Duncan the Tall(who was mentioned in episode 3 by Old Nan as one of Bran's favorite stories), a Hedge Knight as his squire(theres a spinoff coming out about it.) "Egg"was grandfather to the Mad King(they tried to cut it down, but I prefer the OG). Maester Aemon is nearly 100, making him(other than Walder Frey)one of the oldest men in Westeros. "Why is he so mean to him?" Tywin's wife, Joanna, died giving birth to Tyrion. Its said that the best part of him died with her(and he's hated Tyrion for this fact alone). In the book, Mirri(the midwife)gave Drogo a poultice made with different things that burned and itched, as it was healing him, but Drogo tore it off and put on cooling mud. This is one of the reasons he gets infected. While some things she did are bad, she was trying to heal him. They don't discuss a BIG part of why Qotho(Drogo's bloodrider)is so angry when he sees Drogo is dying(something that would have made it have more sense). Bloodriders are expected to live only long enough to avenge their Khal, then they're expected to commit suicide and follow him to the grave. The show never will tell you about Shae, so this is not a spoiler: The story she tells is that she ran away from home when her father tried to make her his kitchen wench and his whore. This was still early, so they didn't end up having the full Battle of the Green Fork(which Tyrion didn't sleep through, but was a full participant in). He and his troops were under the command of Ser Gregor(the Mountain)and the other side was under the command of Roose Bolton(you haven't met him yet, but you will). Tyrion gets his arm broken in the fight and its a Lannister victory, but it was done to distract them so Robb could beat Jaime and save Catelyn's home of Riverrun. The Tysha story....oh god, the Tysha story. SPOILER INCLUDED STUFF(at the bottom) Baelor(which is the episode name and what Ned tells Yoren)is the name of the Targaryen king who built that great Sept he speaks before. Baelor was also "mad", but it was more shown in an immense show of piety(he tried to replace ravens with doves as messengers, had whores and their families kicked out of Kings Landing, imprisoned his sisters so he wouldn't be "tempted"(which was why he never had an heir, ironically)and more. 23:01 That's what everyone felt. It all starts with denial. And thus, the hatred for Joffrey became compounded for all time. SPOILERS FOR TYSHA: Something majorly changed from the books is the Tysha story, which, in the process, ruins Tyrion later without it.(PS: Tyrion was not only a witness to Tysha's moment, Tywin forced him to fuck her too and made him pay her a gold coin, as "Lannisters are worth more".) The show version changed it because they felt Tyrion was too cool for it and didn't want him to lose popularity. However, one of my favorite thing about ASOIAF(the books, while the show is GOT)is that characters are grey, not black and white. Thats not all that happens, but I'll leave that for when I'm complaining in a later season.
Even though the sword blow looks like it missed as much as the Bringer's axe did Giles's head (that is, none at all), you now know that Ned did not make it out.
The dead dance, in the books we don't see them, but see their grotesque shapes and shadows through the canvas of the tent. Somehow this was worse than actually seeing them.
Aemon was pretty much forgotten about on the waII, hes been there so Iong. Most peop|e wouldn't even know about him and Ieast peop|e know he is Targaryen. Aemon was born around 198 ac, went to the waII around 233 ac, start of GoT is 298 ac. He was on the waII for 7-9 years before Tywin was even born.
The "gotcha" here isn't that they killed off the main character. It's that they suckered us into thinking Ned _was_ the main character. He never was. He was always the _mentor._ His role in the story is extremely archetypical for a mentor to (some of) the _real_ protagonists. He gives them sage advice and steers them through tough times in their lives, he knows more about the plot than anyone else on the heroes' side, his presence makes things feel less dangerous and gives the story a sense of stability and security, up until he dies tragically in a way that forces his students to rise to the occasion and go forward without him. As the widely beloved head of a powerful noble house, the right hand to the King, the only person the King would have listened to and someone with the power to collapse Joffrey's regime, he was simply too powerful (from a writing perspective) to be left alive - he would have resolved the conflicts too quickly if he'd been allowed to either keep his position as Hand or take the Black. As is common for mentor characters. It's like if the original Star Wars film was told from Obi-Wan Kenobi's perspective right up until he died and Luke, who'd previously been his sidekick, had to take over. Well, they got us. But it's amusing that a twist famous for turning heroic fantasy tropes on their head actually follows heroic fantasy tropes to the letter once you know what tropes they're really using.
Ned is not the mentor, he's the elbow. An old NFL wide receiver told a story once about how when he first came into the league he could never get any space because the guy covering him was all over him. So he waited till he had a nationally televised game on a Monday night then the first time the QB threw him a pass he elbowed the guy covering him right in the face (this was before they wore face protection). He took a penalty for it but every player in the league saw it & from that day on he always had a yard extra space. Ned is George Martin throwing an elbow. He's the proof that nobody is safe. His death establishes the stakes. George doesn't write cheesy archetypes like "the mentor". He always looks to deconstruct those kind of tropes.
@@pieceofgosa "No character is safe" usually means that the writer is good at tricking the audience or willing to kill off major/fan-favourite characters in ways that matter, or both. Those both certainly apply to Martin's work. But stories where it's _literally_ true that no character is safe are very rare and usually terrible. This isn't one of those cases - this isn't a story where "plot armour doesn't exist." It's a story where it's not immediately clear who has the plot armour. And Ned, intentionally or otherwise, plays a different set of heroic fantasy tropes dead straight. Martin may be a deconstructionist, but he's an avid reader of fiction and also a giant nerd (the Starks were probably named after Tony Stark, for instance, because Martin is a big comic book fan,) and that influences his writing. Some archetypes are played mostly or entirely straight - he's good at fleshing them out beyond their archetypes or using them in interesting ways, but this is not a story that only ever interacts with genre norms when it's zigging where everyone else zags.
I loved watching your reaction and the honest battle over whether you are going to believe this episode or not!! This show will rip your heart out, then hand it back to you again!!!😂
Ahhhh yes, welcome to the GOT tradition of episode 9 being insane. You're going to have a lot of fun with this 🤣🤣 Important to note - Ned's execution was not planned by Cersei, or Varys. They knew that killing Ned would just enrage the North and prevent them from pursuing peace. Had Tywin or Tyrion been there to stop this, there is simply no way it would have happened. This is all entirely on Joffrey. And a brilliant exploration of what can happen when the wrong person, a deeply flawed, awful person, is allowed to be King.
I've watched a ton of GoT reactions and it's always puzzling to me that people actually wonder whether Ned will choose "honor" (sticking to the absolute truth) or telling a lie to protect his daughters.... Isn't it rather obvious that protecting his daughters is the more honorable thing to do (over maintaining some sense of honor by refusing to lie)?
No sure if you caught the Queen's reaction but she was like " what the hell? No no that's a bad idea. " Jeffrey was by far the worst pick in the family for the crown.
Ned is incapable of harming the bastards, so he warns Cercei and ignores Renly, he trusts Littlefinger and does not tell his daughters the truth, even so he was our protagonist and a good father, better than a little kid. . how Joffrey took him from us. Descanse en Paz
SPOILER I only just noticed that Varys literally runs all the way over to Joffrey when he gives the command to try and change his mind with Sansa and Cersei. Varys really was trying to stop war. It's so interesting season 1 and 2. Varys and Littlefinger's hidden battle between each other
Joss Whedon allows his characters to have a modicum of happiness. It's only when they go for supreme happiness that he ruins their lives, or gives you what you wanted in the worst possible way. George R. R. Martin doesn't care that his characters even have that modicum of happiness, at best they'll get moments of solace and fleeting peace. And they'll suffer in the worst possible way, and sometimes you'll see it coming, but without even the excuse that you somehow wanted, asked, or pleaded for it. Anyway, Lord Eddard "Ned" Boromir Stark is nothing like Doyle. Doyle was a coward all his life, then went out like a hero, while Ned was a hero all his life, then went out almost like a coward. (Not a coward, and I don't want to call him a "loser", but he did lose the Game.)
Welcome to Game of Thrones, no one is safe and no one can protect anyone; Ned made some fatal mistakes, he underestimated the Lannister's and should have left w/Renly and taken his daughters, of course it's 1,000 leagues to Winterfell so they would have been hunted but he had a few chances, but he compromised his honor and it still cost him his head, alas.
"Nice guys finish last" sounds like something Tyrion would say to Shae. Also, surely you heard about the reputation of Game of Thrones in terms of killing people you like? (Although hopefully without specific, concrete spoilers.) George R R Martin and Joss Whedon seemingly have that in common.
Please react to the Season 1 Histories and Lore video when you've finished Season 1. A lot of reaction channels do those videos after each season. It'll give you a lot of context for the show that you may be missing and they're truly brilliant videos featuring the voices of the actors who starred in the show.
No way they kill the main character...(INSERT SARCASM) no , GAME OF THRONES Wouldn't do that 😂 ... This show will def stress you and send you in a world of emotions and drain you ..
Oh, and just to make this episode worse: he could have been saved. Easily. Even after Joffrey ordered him beheaded. Cersei was Queen Regent and had the legal authority to stop the execution. She wanted Ned saved because she realised killing him would be a horrible mistake, and she could have just ordered Ned exiled and saved his life, because as Regent, _she's_ in charge until Joffrey is of age, not Joffrey. People talk about how Ned's honour got him killed - and it did - but Cersei massively dropped the ball here, and everything that happens as a result of Ned's execution is her fault.
@@TheKillaShow Possibly not. But she doesn't even try. She pleads with Joffrey but doesn't even try to tell Ser Ilyn to spare Ned. Also, all of Joffrey's advisors _also_ know it's a terrible idea and would back her up if her orders countermanded the king's, and Cersei has spoken for Joffrey before, so it's not like the idea of Cersei ruling for Joffrey is new. They know she's in charge. ...Well, she _was_ in charge. Seeing the Regent try to nag her dumbass teenage son into not doing something monumentally stupid and fail miserably probably ruined her credibility in the eyes of a lot of people.
@@Talisguy I find it hard to imagine a world where in that environment, a blood frenzied crowd, the new king making his first public appearance and commands, a traitor confessing his crimes, that the kings mommy, was going to get any of them to stop because she said so. It wasn’t happening. If these conversations were happening at the kings council room, or private quarters they could convince Jeoffery to relax or cersei may convince someone that she is as regent has authority over her 14 year old king son. Maybe.
@@mimmo4762 the book is written from character perspectives. So a character believing something could happen and it actually being able to happen are two different things.
In the first episode, Ned beheaded someone who shouldn't have been beheaded (in my opinion, for what it's worth) and now he is beheaded and shouldn't have been.
She can look away if she wants to. It's her channel & her psyche. She knows how those types of scenes effect her -- you don't. Her reaction is, at least partly, instinctual. No reactor is everyone's cup of tea. If she's not yours, move on. Demanding that someone do something that makes them uncomfortable (particularly for ones own entertainment) is disrespectful & inconsiderate. Plenty of us enjoy her reactions as is & care about her feelings. She is a fully realized human being. Actual & whole. She deserves to be treated as such. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
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Baelor is a former king and ancestor of Daenerys. He was called Baelor the Blessed because he was highly religious. The great Sept (church/cathedral in their religion, and the building they were in front of for the execution) is named after him and that's his statue Arya is on.
R.I.P Ned Stark the only guy in the seven kingdoms (apart from Jon Arryn) who was smart enough to do his homework on genetics
And was smart enough to die early
But stupid enough to tell everyone
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He shouldn't have told the teacher that he studied her family tree for his homework
Other people knew (Varys, Littlefinger, etc.), they just kept quiet to keep their heads.
And foolish enough to allow Cersei time to outmaneuver him, more proof logic smart is no match for street smart.
Sophie Turner's screams chill me to the bone every time...
Michelle Fairley is such a great actress, she just make every scene she is in better. Her reaction at 19:27, so short, yet so charged with emotion. She and Charles Dance are just beyond.
She’s so good that I don’t even need to see the scene to know exactly what you’re talking about. Her reaction to seeing Robb again has stuck with me since the first time I saw it, well over 10 years ago.
They both are definitely on a different level. I would also add the amazing Peter Dinklage and I also love Jack Gleeson's performance in a part for which he will always be remembered.
that scene is my favourite bit of acting in the whole show
23:14 "we didn't see [...] his head?" As they say, beware of your wishes.
first step...denial
i wasn’t surprised by Ned’s death, when i first saw Sean Bean’s name in the credits, i thought he would die in the very first episode 😂
he's pretty well-known for dying in every movie he’s in
Its become so much of a joke that a couple of shows and movies have used it to their advantage to make fake outs.
He hasn't died in the Snowpiercer TV series. Although some might argue that his current fate amounts to a living death. The series was seemingly canceled after S03, but S04 has already been filmed. So maybe death still awaits him.
@@x_trio_3_po333 oh man i loved that movie, i really gotta check out the series
@@x_trio_3_po333 I think that is actually one of the fake outs I was thinking about. Because when we first see him in flashbacks he is assumed dead at that point. Other examples include the series "Missing" and ...no the other fake out I was thinking of was during his villain era and I was thinking of "Flightplan". There are probably others that I was thinking of for the death fake out, but I'm blanking right now.
Ned said he swore "by the seven" that Joffrey was the true heir.
But... he doesn't believe the seven gods. Like most Northmen, he worships the "old gods". So that's a subtle way of not swearing anything.
Could be, but I would guess that the entire speech was scripted by someone on Lannister's team, like Sansa's words when she was asking for mercy. I don't think the Lannisters would risk Ned just coming up with something on his own.
@@MarkusR144 I love it XD
Everything is rehearsed, everyone knows their lines...
**Joffery starts going off script**
04:37 "I trust no one in this show" - That's the right spirit 👍😄
Yep, Baelor is definitely a very GoT specific word. It's the name of a Targaryen king from about 100 years before the Mad King. He could have been considered mad as well, but he was a much more of a kind of madness that didn't kill anyone but himself. He was a crazily devout guy who tried to get the maesters to change the use of ravens for messages to doves. Then there was the time when he walked through a pit full of snakes to save his brother that was being held there by the Dornish, thinking his faith would make the snakes refuse to bite him. They did. A lot. He was in a coma for a long time after that. In the end, he died by malnutrition when he went too far with fasting.
I mean, he also locked his sisters away to save them from sin, but they were kept in very comfortable lodgings. Sure, they couldn't go anywhere, but it's not like they were locked away in a tiny cell and chained to a wall. They were kind of like enforced nuns. But they weren't hurt.
Anyway, he was beloved for the most part, and was called Baelor the Blessed. The big sept (church) in King's Landing is called the Sept of Baelor, and the statue Arya is hiding behind is a statue of Baelor.
And one of his sisters even got pregnant while imprisoned, and by his own brothers son too...
Just remember no one, and I mean NO ONE, is safe in this show. RIP Ned Stark. An honorable man.
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Yeah...sure...😒😓
NOW you're in the Game of Thrones!
Having read the books, episodes like this actually made me look forward to going to work on Monday, to see people WTF'ing about Ned. And it really cements early-on that no one is safe.
Since Lexi is a fan of Sean Bean's acting she should check out the 3 season TV series, "Snowpiercer". And the James Bond film, "Golden Eye" (1995), and the Christian Bale film, "Equilibrium" (2002). I know he's been in a ton more, but those are the ones where he played some interesting characters.
Yes Lexi, this is just like that other show when someone dies in the 9th episode.
No spoilers - This perfectly sums up Joffreys character, killing Ned has zero tactical advantage, he does it just for spite and to punish Sansa. Even Cersei (who knows Ned knows about her children's true parentage) tries to stop him along with Lord Varys. Joffrey is King, so can make this decisions without any input from anyone else and this is his first terrible decision - this will cause a war with the North and to top it all off they have Jamie...
Sansa is now trapped, even more than before, she can't leave and is a hostage of house Lannister.
It also sums up Cersei, because Cersei actually _had_ the authority to stop the execution as Queen Regent and didn't use it.
She's a lot better at clawing her way to power than she is at _using_ power for anything constructive.
Nah cersei cant use this power in front of the people . Jeoffrey is the official ruler .
In the books it is heavily implied Littlefinger advised Joffrey to execute him. Notice how, unlike Cercei, Varys and others he does not go up to Joffrey to protest, he was expecting it. In reality, it was Littlefinger that killed him.
It's great (and also surprising, when you think about it) how quickly we forget how lucky we are. We have soap, and germ theory, and antiseptics, and antibiotics, and sterile bandages. If you get a cut, you clean it and bandage it and move on with life. It's so easy to forget that infection is a real and really dangerous thing.
For effectively all of human history up until like the last century, a papercut offered a non-zero chance of killing you in agony weeks later. Certainly substantial slashes or punctures from a weapon (which are _staggeringly_ non-sterile to begin with...) leaves you with bad odds from the get-go, and there was nothing you could do but hope. As soon as you open the skin, infection is a real and ever-present risk, and if it happens, you're pretty much screwed.
Yeah, this one is a real shocker.
Not me sneaking off to the restroom at work for a 3rd time to watch a whole episode reaction when I should be working
Walder Frey is one of my favourite and least favourite characters(no spoilers). His abrasive attitude, his saying whatever the hell he wants because he's an old man...just amazing, epic and funny all at once.
Theres some stuff thats in the books, but not the show that Lord Tywin's sister Genna(not included in the series, though she was one of my fave characters) was wed to one of Walder Frey's sons(and not even his heir)because Tywins' father Tytos wanted to make Walder Frey happy. Tywin was the only one who spoke against it, and he was ten years old at the time. Apparently, the son she wed lived in fear of Tywin his whole life and it was said that Tywin gave him "a bad belly"as his wedding gift.
7:51, I'm sure they will be happy together. (It's said that, unfortunately, a lot of them take after Walder and have his weaselish look).
Aemon's brother Aegon(the Unlikely, as he was the fourth son of a fourth son)or "Egg"had a number of events that had his uncles, brothers and everyone who would have been king die out before he was chosen(after Aemon refused the Throne). Aemon joined the Nights Watch so no one could use him politically against his little brother. He also traveled with Ser Duncan the Tall(who was mentioned in episode 3 by Old Nan as one of Bran's favorite stories), a Hedge Knight as his squire(theres a spinoff coming out about it.) "Egg"was grandfather to the Mad King(they tried to cut it down, but I prefer the OG).
Maester Aemon is nearly 100, making him(other than Walder Frey)one of the oldest men in Westeros.
"Why is he so mean to him?" Tywin's wife, Joanna, died giving birth to Tyrion. Its said that the best part of him died with her(and he's hated Tyrion for this fact alone).
In the book, Mirri(the midwife)gave Drogo a poultice made with different things that burned and itched, as it was healing him, but Drogo tore it off and put on cooling mud. This is one of the reasons he gets infected. While some things she did are bad, she was trying to heal him.
They don't discuss a BIG part of why Qotho(Drogo's bloodrider)is so angry when he sees Drogo is dying(something that would have made it have more sense). Bloodriders are expected to live only long enough to avenge their Khal, then they're expected to commit suicide and follow him to the grave.
The show never will tell you about Shae, so this is not a spoiler: The story she tells is that she ran away from home when her father tried to make her his kitchen wench and his whore.
This was still early, so they didn't end up having the full Battle of the Green Fork(which Tyrion didn't sleep through, but was a full participant in). He and his troops were under the command of Ser Gregor(the Mountain)and the other side was under the command of Roose Bolton(you haven't met him yet, but you will). Tyrion gets his arm broken in the fight and its a Lannister victory, but it was done to distract them so Robb could beat Jaime and save Catelyn's home of Riverrun.
The Tysha story....oh god, the Tysha story. SPOILER INCLUDED STUFF(at the bottom)
Baelor(which is the episode name and what Ned tells Yoren)is the name of the Targaryen king who built that great Sept he speaks before. Baelor was also "mad", but it was more shown in an immense show of piety(he tried to replace ravens with doves as messengers, had whores and their families kicked out of Kings Landing, imprisoned his sisters so he wouldn't be "tempted"(which was why he never had an heir, ironically)and more.
23:01 That's what everyone felt. It all starts with denial.
And thus, the hatred for Joffrey became compounded for all time.
SPOILERS FOR TYSHA: Something majorly changed from the books is the Tysha story, which, in the process, ruins Tyrion later without it.(PS: Tyrion was not only a witness to Tysha's moment, Tywin forced him to fuck her too and made him pay her a gold coin, as "Lannisters are worth more".) The show version changed it because they felt Tyrion was too cool for it and didn't want him to lose popularity. However, one of my favorite thing about ASOIAF(the books, while the show is GOT)is that characters are grey, not black and white. Thats not all that happens, but I'll leave that for when I'm complaining in a later season.
Even though the sword blow looks like it missed as much as the Bringer's axe did Giles's head (that is, none at all), you now know that Ned did not make it out.
I had this EXACT feeling, knowing tv I thought it was a dream or hallucination.
The stomach glance. So few catch this!
The dead dance, in the books we don't see them, but see their grotesque shapes and shadows through the canvas of the tent. Somehow this was worse than actually seeing them.
Aemon was pretty much forgotten about on the waII, hes been there so Iong. Most peop|e wouldn't even know about him and Ieast peop|e know he is Targaryen. Aemon was born around 198 ac, went to the waII around 233 ac, start of GoT is 298 ac. He was on the waII for 7-9 years before Tywin was even born.
“He chose love.”
He chose something.
Aha, love the opening edit :P
Keep up the great content!
The "gotcha" here isn't that they killed off the main character. It's that they suckered us into thinking Ned _was_ the main character. He never was. He was always the _mentor._
His role in the story is extremely archetypical for a mentor to (some of) the _real_ protagonists. He gives them sage advice and steers them through tough times in their lives, he knows more about the plot than anyone else on the heroes' side, his presence makes things feel less dangerous and gives the story a sense of stability and security, up until he dies tragically in a way that forces his students to rise to the occasion and go forward without him. As the widely beloved head of a powerful noble house, the right hand to the King, the only person the King would have listened to and someone with the power to collapse Joffrey's regime, he was simply too powerful (from a writing perspective) to be left alive - he would have resolved the conflicts too quickly if he'd been allowed to either keep his position as Hand or take the Black. As is common for mentor characters.
It's like if the original Star Wars film was told from Obi-Wan Kenobi's perspective right up until he died and Luke, who'd previously been his sidekick, had to take over. Well, they got us. But it's amusing that a twist famous for turning heroic fantasy tropes on their head actually follows heroic fantasy tropes to the letter once you know what tropes they're really using.
Ned is not the mentor, he's the elbow. An old NFL wide receiver told a story once about how when he first came into the league he could never get any space because the guy covering him was all over him. So he waited till he had a nationally televised game on a Monday night then the first time the QB threw him a pass he elbowed the guy covering him right in the face (this was before they wore face protection). He took a penalty for it but every player in the league saw it & from that day on he always had a yard extra space. Ned is George Martin throwing an elbow. He's the proof that nobody is safe. His death establishes the stakes. George doesn't write cheesy archetypes like "the mentor". He always looks to deconstruct those kind of tropes.
@@pieceofgosa "No character is safe" usually means that the writer is good at tricking the audience or willing to kill off major/fan-favourite characters in ways that matter, or both. Those both certainly apply to Martin's work.
But stories where it's _literally_ true that no character is safe are very rare and usually terrible. This isn't one of those cases - this isn't a story where "plot armour doesn't exist." It's a story where it's not immediately clear who has the plot armour. And Ned, intentionally or otherwise, plays a different set of heroic fantasy tropes dead straight. Martin may be a deconstructionist, but he's an avid reader of fiction and also a giant nerd (the Starks were probably named after Tony Stark, for instance, because Martin is a big comic book fan,) and that influences his writing. Some archetypes are played mostly or entirely straight - he's good at fleshing them out beyond their archetypes or using them in interesting ways, but this is not a story that only ever interacts with genre norms when it's zigging where everyone else zags.
And now we realize, that this is not the story. The story is war, and this was all just the prologue.
I loved watching your reaction and the honest battle over whether you are going to believe this episode or not!! This show will rip your heart out, then hand it back to you again!!!😂
4:00 I mean, killing every raven is in fact super efficient, to prevent them to snitch
W Lexi been one of my favorite reactions so far
Excellent outro. It was fascinating watching you going through the various stages of grief.
Welcome to GoT Lexi. In this show, anybody can be killed, NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!
Mirri Maz Duur says that only one life can pay for another life and looks at Dany's belly... well observed, Lexi.
Ahhhh yes, welcome to the GOT tradition of episode 9 being insane. You're going to have a lot of fun with this 🤣🤣
Important to note - Ned's execution was not planned by Cersei, or Varys. They knew that killing Ned would just enrage the North and prevent them from pursuing peace. Had Tywin or Tyrion been there to stop this, there is simply no way it would have happened.
This is all entirely on Joffrey. And a brilliant exploration of what can happen when the wrong person, a deeply flawed, awful person, is allowed to be King.
4:37 "I trust no one in this show". Good 😊👍
I think a lot of what is wrong with Joffrey is a combination of Robert and Cersei, oddly enough, and their parenting of him.
Yes, I love Shae too.
8:54 yes, there is more than just Daenerys :)
Keep that denial hole handy, Lexi. Semi-happy definitely should have made you suspicious. At least Tyrion survived his first battle!
I've watched a ton of GoT reactions and it's always puzzling to me that people actually wonder whether Ned will choose "honor" (sticking to the absolute truth) or telling a lie to protect his daughters.... Isn't it rather obvious that protecting his daughters is the more honorable thing to do (over maintaining some sense of honor by refusing to lie)?
No sure if you caught the Queen's reaction but she was like " what the hell? No no that's a bad idea. " Jeffrey was by far the worst pick in the family for the crown.
Ned is incapable of harming the bastards, so he warns Cercei and ignores Renly, he trusts Littlefinger and does not tell his daughters the truth, even so he was our protagonist and a good father, better than a little kid. . how Joffrey took him from us. Descanse en Paz
Poor old Ned ☹️
Nice reaction! The game starts now...
What do you mean? Joffrey is the main character. Wasn't that obvious?
SPOILER
I only just noticed that Varys literally runs all the way over to Joffrey when he gives the command to try and change his mind with Sansa and Cersei. Varys really was trying to stop war. It's so interesting season 1 and 2. Varys and Littlefinger's hidden battle between each other
Joss Whedon allows his characters to have a modicum of happiness. It's only when they go for supreme happiness that he ruins their lives, or gives you what you wanted in the worst possible way. George R. R. Martin doesn't care that his characters even have that modicum of happiness, at best they'll get moments of solace and fleeting peace. And they'll suffer in the worst possible way, and sometimes you'll see it coming, but without even the excuse that you somehow wanted, asked, or pleaded for it.
Anyway, Lord Eddard "Ned" Boromir Stark is nothing like Doyle. Doyle was a coward all his life, then went out like a hero, while Ned was a hero all his life, then went out almost like a coward. (Not a coward, and I don't want to call him a "loser", but he did lose the Game.)
Ned lied for nothing he should have keeped his honor like a true stark , and he will still be alive as a bargening chips .
Ned's dead, baby. Ned's dead.
Do you still think the Lord Commander made Jon his personal steward in order to punish him?
Welcome to Game of Thrones, no one is safe and no one can protect anyone; Ned made some fatal mistakes, he underestimated the Lannister's and should have left w/Renly and taken his daughters, of course it's 1,000 leagues to Winterfell so they would have been hunted but he had a few chances, but he compromised his honor and it still cost him his head, alas.
"Nice guys finish last" sounds like something Tyrion would say to Shae.
Also, surely you heard about the reputation of Game of Thrones in terms of killing people you like? (Although hopefully without specific, concrete spoilers.) George R R Martin and Joss Whedon seemingly have that in common.
You heard about George and Joss meeting in a bar? ... No survivors.
Sweat summer child. Welcome to GoT
Good old cursed 09
I mean it's Sean Bean he dies in every movie lol when you see him it's the biggest spoiler ever
omg u should definitely check out outlander
show me a scene from the mad king's reign? you are going to enjoy the history and lore for this season.
goodbye summer child 😪😪😪
Pretty easy for a cut to be infected.
Please react to the Season 1 Histories and Lore video when you've finished Season 1.
A lot of reaction channels do those videos after each season. It'll give you a lot of context for the show that you may be missing and they're truly brilliant videos featuring the voices of the actors who starred in the show.
Watch the history and lore video and learn about the mad King and Robert´s rebellion.
I almost quit this show after this episode 😂
No way they kill the main character...(INSERT SARCASM) no , GAME OF THRONES Wouldn't do that 😂 ...
This show will def stress you and send you in a world of emotions and drain you ..
Don't worry, Ned will be back in next episode.
As a ghost. Or a zombie.
You monster.
Will you be checking out THE BEAR?? Amazing show
Tyrion telling the story of his first wife just breaks my heart and enrages me. Tyrion aside, House Lannister is just awful - even to each other.
Mycella and Tommen sweet innocent kids...Kevan not too bad either...so far it seems.
You know the rest of Tyrion's story? It gets touched on in the books later, but the show leaves it out.
@@usgreth Yes, it is unheard of that it erases the most important thing about the 4x10,
Oh, and just to make this episode worse: he could have been saved. Easily. Even after Joffrey ordered him beheaded.
Cersei was Queen Regent and had the legal authority to stop the execution. She wanted Ned saved because she realised killing him would be a horrible mistake, and she could have just ordered Ned exiled and saved his life, because as Regent, _she's_ in charge until Joffrey is of age, not Joffrey.
People talk about how Ned's honour got him killed - and it did - but Cersei massively dropped the ball here, and everything that happens as a result of Ned's execution is her fault.
Do you really think anyone would listen to Cersei over Jeoffrey in this moment?
@@TheKillaShow Possibly not. But she doesn't even try. She pleads with Joffrey but doesn't even try to tell Ser Ilyn to spare Ned.
Also, all of Joffrey's advisors _also_ know it's a terrible idea and would back her up if her orders countermanded the king's, and Cersei has spoken for Joffrey before, so it's not like the idea of Cersei ruling for Joffrey is new. They know she's in charge. ...Well, she _was_ in charge. Seeing the Regent try to nag her dumbass teenage son into not doing something monumentally stupid and fail miserably probably ruined her credibility in the eyes of a lot of people.
In the book it is in fact explained that she could, but the execution was so quick she had not the physiological time to speak.
@@Talisguy I find it hard to imagine a world where in that environment, a blood frenzied crowd, the new king making his first public appearance and commands, a traitor confessing his crimes, that the kings mommy, was going to get any of them to stop because she said so. It wasn’t happening.
If these conversations were happening at the kings council room, or private quarters they could convince Jeoffery to relax or cersei may convince someone that she is as regent has authority over her 14 year old king son. Maybe.
@@mimmo4762 the book is written from character perspectives. So a character believing something could happen and it actually being able to happen are two different things.
Ned's death was really shocking and brutal.
fortunately, the show never again reached such levels of violence after this.
Lol
Unpopular opinion, but I don't like Drogo anyway.
Get used to your favorites being killed.
I’m shocked that you had no idea about this. I’m glad tho
God, I hate Joffrey
Everyone hates Joffrey.
In the first episode, Ned beheaded someone who shouldn't have been beheaded (in my opinion, for what it's worth) and now he is beheaded and shouldn't have been.
Denial
oh my sweet summer child. This was the first strike. There will be two more...
You just cant help yourself can you
Spoiler
@@Taj_Rahine how is that a spoiler?
@@panagiotisgeorgiadis2613 Spoiler, talking about what happens in future episodes.
Only two?
Your turning away when the show violence is a pain. Either watch everything or watch nothing!
She can look away if she wants to. It's her channel & her psyche. She knows how those types of scenes effect her -- you don't. Her reaction is, at least partly, instinctual. No reactor is everyone's cup of tea. If she's not yours, move on. Demanding that someone do something that makes them uncomfortable (particularly for ones own entertainment) is disrespectful & inconsiderate. Plenty of us enjoy her reactions as is & care about her feelings. She is a fully realized human being. Actual & whole. She deserves to be treated as such. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜