Mike Trout Is Injured-How Far Can His Cards Drop?
Вставка
- Опубліковано 30 кві 2024
- Mike Trout is injured. This statement is something that we unfortunately have come accustomed to as baseball card collectors. Mike Trout's cards have been touted by many people (myself included) as one of the best investments due to Trout's performance. One thing that we cannot control however is health and how that impacts card values and legacy. In this video I break down Mike Trout's legacy, baseball cards, how he stacks up all time to other players, and discuss his injury history.
AWESOME breakdown Scott. THIS is why I love your channel.
Thanks Al, I appreciate it!! I hope all is going well.
There is now way Mike Trout 2011 Topps Update Card in a PSA 10 should be $1,000 (Injured or not). Way too many cards - 6,327 PSA 10 cards.
Too much supply to warrant long term value like that.
Yup. Agreed. It takes a guy getting injured, sadly, for the realization that such cards are way overvalued in the first place. Honestly, talking about base rookie cards regardlessof product or sport is a wasted effort (except of course for products like Dynasty in Baseball or Flawless Basketball where base rc's are 99 or way less). Even bowman chrome auto's where the print run is easily into the thousands going back to at least 2018 is silliness. It's the same 250 fellas that collect and watch these videos. Demand is strong but not for cards with pops into the hundreds. Be that as it may I have already started piling ridiculous amounts of money into 2024 Bowman Chrome prospects - it's fun!
Trout is this generations version of Ken Griffey Jr.
Junior was an amazing player until his age 30 - when injuries started to pile up. He ended up in the Hall of Fame nevertheless, but a healthy Griffey could have shattered lots of records. But he still finished with 2781 Hits and 630 HR's - it wont be easy for Trout to get there.
I agree 100%. Generational players will be talked about forever therefore collected forever.
Keep the faith collectors!!
Move him to 1st base like Harper
His bat and HRs are way more valuable than CF and more injuries. Anyone younger with speed can play CF.
Great video! Thanks.
Spot on. Great video.
I am an old timer, and would classify myself as a collector vs an investor. Sure I’ve sold cards along the way, but am a long term holder -40+ years. Trout and Pujols should be huge HOF stars in 40 years from now. I view times like now as an opportunity to target higher end cards on the dip !
Hi Ed, I agree with everything you said! Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate it!
I think you were honest and for the most part spot on
Do "if he stayed healthy" for Griffey Jr... his career was insane.
I have been watching his 2011 topps update drop just waiting for a good time to get his 2011 topps update in a PSA 9
Ken Griffey Jr had a pretty similar string of injuries after he went to Cincinnati. He had several seasons where he struggled to make 100 games played.
Feel badly for Trout. Incredible talent, but can’t stay on the field. Hope he can get healthy soon.
Was hoping Billy Butler was going to be on that spreadsheet with the others. 😂
Thats crazy about Griffey, I knew he was bad at Cincinnati, but damm
I'm depressed with all these Trout injuries. I was so excited he got off to such a great start and then bang, injury. Blah.
Top 5 of all-time...hard to give nod without any playoff appearances, let alone a title.
As someone who grew up as Topps Finest was getting big I don't understand why Trouts Topps update rookie card is more than his topps finest rookie. Is this true for many baseball rookie cards? Thanks.
I like trout but I think you are being too positive. you didnt even cover the fact that in the last 2 years, forget the missed games, but he has been substantially less of a player than nearly all his previous years. in 2023 and 2024 his OPS is in the 800s with a 250 batting average, worse than every year except his age 19 season.
You can't even call him this generation's Ken Griffey Jr. Not only did Griffey have that 'it' factor, not only did Ken Griffey have a lot more play off exposure, but Ken Griffey Jr hit over 600 home runs. I know it sounds insane, but its looking like Mike Trout might not hit 500 home runs.
I mean he's basically mirroring Griffey Jr's career. Guy is still a beast in peak health. His cards will stay hot as he is a future HOF'er. I think he will end up getting traded to a contention team and get to a World Series with that team if he plays.
Before watching the video, even if his cards would go down and value now once he retires and becomes a Hall of Famer, those cards are gonna shoot right back up
Scottie, don’t think you’re too critical. As an Angels fan I worry about the same thing you are discussing. He is going to be tops in the discussion of all time greats, but he has to play. I never thought about him leaving, but maybe for card values, this has to happen. Who would rake the chance on him? Who could bring value to their club; perhaps a smaller team who needs a DH. I don’t know, but it would be a huge gamble to bring him over at even 50% of his current pay.I hope he can bounce back, as I continue purchasing his older cards. My Angels have really got to rebuild and stop bringing in old washed up players, and there are a lot of examples. Unfortunately, Trout is appearing as an old washed up player who can’t stay healthy. And now I have to hope he can return, once again as healthy and productive. Once again, we can just hope. Thanks Scottie.
I feel like Trout's prices are so high because people sunk sooooo much money into him, that they refuse to cash out and realize those losses.
There are some awesome cards, I'd like, but there's no way Id pay the asking prices
PS : I know Vegas Dave has GOT to be happy he's out of that card! LOL
Ironically, I was just looking at how productive Willie Mays was in his mid to late 30s. Imagine if he didn’t miss nearly two full seasons to serve our country.
Trout is no longer Mr. War, but he is still a sure fire first ballot hall of famer.
With the current misfortunes that have visited the Angels, i have to say ... poor Mike Trout ... poor Angels players and fans. The current Angels line-up could really use some angels in the outfield.
Could be a good time for anything!
If he stayed healthy from 2017 (120+ games per) he'd be knocking at the door of 550 HRs already
I agree.. It's a shame the injuries will most likely stop him from 600+
Moving markets would drop his cards even further. Nobody wants a previous team unless it's a rookie.
In most situations I agree a team change is bad, but I think a trade to the Phillies and playing for a contender would help his cards. Angels fans will always love Trout, and I think all of baseball wants to see him in the postseason, even if it means somewhere outside of Anaheim.
In the years Albert Pujols was with the Angels, almost 10, he accumulated less than 14 WAR. They didn't get their money out of that contract.
Ken Griffey and Mickey Mantle... Two of the most injured riddled players in history. Yet the 2 are the most collected in the hobby. Trout will be a full time DH power hitter after this. He will hit 500 home runs in his career.
I hope you're right, but you can't hit 500 homers if you can't stay on the field
If Trout was done today, the would STILL vote him in the Hall. Same length career as Mattingly, and with 500 more hits than Trout, Mattingly is still kept out. Puckett is in. Three guys with injuries, but only one will be kept out.
Unfortunately, Trout's taking a similar path Griffey JR and others that were great in their prime. Everyone (including me) thought JR would break the HR record. We saw how that turned out - 630 instead of maybe 730 or more. Down a steep hill after his age 30 season. Trout is still one of the all-time greats, but should be slid down quite a few notches because injuries. Kind of disappointing though, another 'woulda coulda, shoulda', because injury prone got in the way of another "generational-level" talent.
Trout best seasons were in the 2010's sadly into the 2020's his offensive numbers on the field are gonna be worse thus no first-ballot through third-ballot HOF. I had stopped PCing Trout cards in 2021
Hey Mike, been a while since I've seen you around on UA-cam!
@@Krysdavar I've been playing my home videogames as I'm winding down my sportscards adventure in 2024.
There was a time I thought Griffey would not get to 500 hr. I think trout will get to 500 hr and at least he is the conversation with mantle. Aaron Griffey. This hopefully will blow over and he will still be putting up insane all around numbers. I was thinking today it didn’t hurt to have pujols hit behind him for a decade
I asked my wife who is Mike Trout? She said never heard of him. I said who is Ken Griffey? She rattled off a whole list of things. Trout has not and will not transcend baseball.
Same applies to Jeter in my opinion from a popularity standpoint.
Albert Pujols cards went down when he was going downhill.
Should have bought every single Pujols I could get my hands on looking back.
Whatever anybody thinks his legacy to point is, you have to accept this is his career. He might get healthy & rack up a few more stats, but his career is waning. Some are Kofax & some are ryan.
That is very well said 👏👏. Thanks for watching!
The sad thing is Trout was 2-3 year ahead of Pujols in WAR at 5 years ago. Now he is actually behind Pujols at the age of 32, although still very much ahead of Mookie Betts.
I agree with Trout being ahead of Mookie still 100%! Hopefully Trout can stay healthy and beat Pujols and Griffey's 30s.
When is he not hurt?
I should actually look this up before I open my big mouth, but I think his numbers compare to Dale Murphy, who is not in the HOF.
Yeah you shouldn’t have opened your mouth. Trout is a first ballot hall of Famer if he retired today
@@BASEBALLfreakFORlife I’ll take the role of the adult in this conversation since you chose not to, and actually add some data to back up my comment. First, I did not say that Trout doesn't belong in the HOF, simply adding to the conversation.
Years of Service: Trout 14, Murphy 18
Home Runs: Murphy 398, Trout 378
RBI: Murphy 1266, Trout 954
Runs:Murphy 1197. Trout 1123
SB: Trout 212, Murphy 161
AVG: Trout .299, Murphy .269
Silver Slugger: Trout 9, Murphy 4
MVP: Trout 3, Murphy 2
OPS+: Trout 173, Murphy 121
Hits: Murphy: 2111, Trout 1648
Gold Gloves: Murphy 5, Trout ZERO
WAR: Trout 86, Murphy 46
SO subtracting the popularity statistics of MVP’s All Star games, I think my previous statement was fair, their careers are heading down a similar path especially playing a different game starting almost 4 decades apart. .
I appreciate Murphy has 4 years on Trout, but he spent the last decade in meritocracy, as Trout will likely do so as well, so I don't see much of a difference in the end product.
Murphy dominated for a decade then fell flat, just like Trout did /will do. Do they both belong in the HOF? YES, absolutely, just like Jackie and Koufax do for their decade of domination.
Fan boys dominate the baseball card and youtube comment section, but I decided to reply anyway. I like data and facts, not cheerleaders.
Don't you think its interesting that Trout won defensive player of the year, yet NEVER won a gold glove? FANBOYS.
@@BASEBALLfreakFORlife
I’ll take the role of the adult in this conversation since you chose not to, and actually add some data to back up my comment. First, I did not say that Trout doesn't belong in the HOF, simply adding to the conversation.
Years of Service: Trout 14, Murphy 18
Home Runs: Murphy 398, Trout 378
RBI: Murphy 1266, Trout 954
Runs:Murphy 1197. Trout 1123
SB: Trout 212, Murphy 161
AVG: Trout .299, Murphy .269
Silver Slugger: Trout 9, Murphy 4
MVP: Trout 3, Murphy 2
OPS+: Trout 173, Murphy 121
Hits: Murphy: 2111, Trout 1648
Gold Gloves: Murphy 5, Trout ZERO
WAR: Trout 86, Murphy 46
SO subtracting the popularity statistics of MVP’s All Star games, I think my previous statement was fair, their careers are heading down a similar path especially playing a different game starting almost 4 decades apart. .
I appreciate Murphy has 4 years on Trout, but he spent the last decade in meritocracy, as Trout will likely do so as well, so I don't see much of a difference in the end product.
Murphy dominated for a decade then fell flat, just like Trout did /will do. Do they both belong in the HOF? YES, absolutely, just like Jackie and Koufax do for their decade of domination.
Fan boys dominate the baseball card and youtube comment section, but I decided to reply anyway. I like data and facts, not cheerleaders.
Don't you think its interesting that Trout won defensive player of the year, yet NEVER won a gold glove? FANBOYS.
When is enough , enough for Trout ? The amount of injuries may drive him into a much earlier retirement as well.
Dave parker was the best player in the game for a few years.
Sad normal occurrence, every year Trout hurt. Legacy pretty much tarnished - no ring - won't reach 500 HRs, hall of fame? maybe...but man all those '09 bowman chrome auto holders..ouch! His cards won't be worth much in 10 yrs. Betts overtakes him in WAR. Trout ends up mediocre...too many players ahead of him as he falls further behind statistically speaking.
That covid year messed things up.
The ironic beauty of Trouts injuries is that he will be talked about throughout the history of the game, if he is not able to get back to being 100% healthy, about what could of been...all the stories for us who watched him play...i remember watching this player Mike Trout man he was something special until unfortunately...so imo his cards will be highly collected forever at probably always at a premium to his playing counter parts.
His cards will still be worth more than Mookie Betts. 😮😮😮
I collect to collect
There will be some awesome buying opportunities this year!
Surprised you but guys like Arenado and Goldy and sell Trout when those guys won’t Sniff Trout’s career even if he plays 50 games a year for the next 5-7 years
I like Trout a lot. One of my favorite players all time. With that being said, Trout had his red Bowman Chrome auto sell for $900,000 while a Goldschmidt red bowman chrome auto went for 6.8k. A LOT was baked into Mike's pricing and the injuries are not helping.
Everyone needs to sell, I want to buy this year or next. I sold at the top.
So you just a investor and not a collector? I collect Trout and I just don’t sell his stuff because he is getting older and getting hurt . I started enjoying baseball again because of him . I get tired of hearing about post season crap ! Dang Griffey never won a series and I hate when they say he don’t have the charisma of Griffey. Be a collector and not an investor. I am happy I watch shows like this because now I can get his stuff cheap !
Some of us are both. I like having pieces of history and greats from my childhood. That being said the worry is about paying a lot of money for something that drops in value sharply.
I collect and invest. Trout's cards are some of the most expensive in sports cards so I think it is an important conversation to have with his unfortunate history of injuries the past 5 years or so.
Also, I agree championships are not everything. I am a Rockies fan, trust me, I know. However, I do think a championship or moving teams is what will really help Mike's cards moving forward.
I also do think there will be a lot of buying opportunities over the next 12 months. I hope that you are able to get some great deals on some cheap Trouts! Thanks for watching.
I'm a HOF RC collector so I'm holding my Trout RCs also. I'm looking to trade or sell the doubles at this point but I'm doing that with everything else as well. Anything I don't have dupes of stays in my collection until he makes the Hall and I'm old enough to want to sell my assets. I see Scottie B addressed that first question gracefully, and what he said is proven in his videos over the years. He even owned a card shop if you weren't aware. You are a true Trout collector, man, and I think it's great you aren't bailing on him. Not saying that's what Scottie suggested, he always argues both sides. I'm Blessed with the Trouts I have because they were cheap when I bought them. But I agree with the current buying opportunity totally, and I need a 2011 Update parallel still. I really want the Hope Diamond or Black, but it would have to be a trade/cash type of miracle scenario unless it crashes.
I thought every collector was an investor to some extent. What are your long-term hopes for your Trout collection? I mean, you aren’t just going to toss everything in the garbage or burn it later in life, right?
@@coreywilkinson2778 hold them like a collector . Why collect if you just going to flip them ! I want to be the old man where going to find my collection and say damn
This is what happens when you play for a terrible team. Griffey was the same and recently Pujols playing for you guessed it the Angles!
I’m putting my money into Mookie Betts
That thumbnail...😂
Might be able to afford to buy some nice cards now
I wonder if he left the Angels and came back home to the Phillies if this kind of situation would be the same, this is really going to Hurt his Card Market and I have some nice cards of him including the Iconic Update Rookie Card PSA 10. He's not getting any Younger as we know.
I think going to the Phillies, Yankees, etc would be really good for his career and cards at this point. He has done a lot for the Angels, but it feels like they need to rebuild a bit. Thanks for watching!
He's a part-time player now. Love him, but his time is over. Will never be healthy for even a half season and will injured during any playoff run should he get traded. 500 homers are out of reach unless he hangs on too long and becomes an embarrassment to his legacy. Too bad.
Trout should get FAR, FAR away from the Angels. it's only gonna get worse from here. Bigger is not always better. Don't let him run, catch or slide and he should be fine.
Mookie might catch Trout. I much rather have Mookie’s career when you factor in the championships
8 straight seasons of top 5 MVP voting. Top 10 all-time no matter what happens
VERY impressive run for Trout. One of the best peaks ever. Hopefully he can stay healthy and add more counting stats.
@@scottiebcards2354 I just look at how baseball looks at Koufax who had a shortened career over time. Has any hitter ever had a more dominant 8 year run that wasn’t on steroids?
Top 10 is definitely a stretch. Maybe top 25-30
@@BASEBALLfreakFORlife how many other players in MLB history have an 8 year stretch like that? One? Two other players all time. To be clear. I only own a few smaller Trout cards. I just recognized he is probably the second best player I have ever seen outside of Bonds
Top 10 all time lmao
All these years, you've been touting your Trout and Betts collections. Now you admit that you've been "divesting" of his cards for a long time now. Really honest of you, Scott.
Hi Walter, I am not trying to deceive anyone. I still do collect Trout, but I did move a lot of my higher end Trout. I do move cards of players when something else I want pops up. I sold a lot of my Trout cards to buy a 2009 Bowman Chrome auto refractor. Then a grail card then popped up at the national and I traded that Trout card for a 2001 Bowman Chrome Albert Pujols Bowman Chrome auto.
I also had a basement renovation that I sold two other Trout's to cover. I am not out on Trout, but the way things have worked out I do not have much high end right now in the moment. I still like him as a collector.
Walter can you please show me on the doll where Scott touched you?
Anybody who says Mike trout was never that good , probably never watched baseball and only heard of him once they started buying cards in 2020 . He will always be one of the greats of three last 10 years.
he was always an overhyped player... 10 years.... pujols, jr, mattingly, are the 3 big 10 year Supremes. i guess. ichiro is as well. i never knew y everyone in the world thought he was the greatest ever. his numbers dont even compare to the guys ive mentioned except ichiro... he over hyped... stupidly... very very stupidly... i never spent a dollar on his cards cuz of this...
Way to overthink the whole card market , i collect what i like and dont care about value 52 years collecting here
Shame that a guy at his level is required to continue to produce every year. He is one of the greatest. I wish more people just collected and not everything being an investment
hes never ever ever been in top 10 of all time greats... EVER... alll you guys need to stop mentioning it...
I'm sure Mike is just as frustrated as anyone.
He needs to drop 15 lbs in order to stay healthy. This isn't the NFL.
Used to enjoy your vids but man it seems like everytime it’s a negative post
Thank you for that feedback, I appreciate it! Generally the content is the same, but I may be portraying it too negatively. I’ll try to have more neutral on the next few. Keep an eye out for the next few videos.
Great player but probably time to retire.
I’ll take trouts talent any day. Way too many haters
Trout looks for reasons to not play
I think that’s a stupid statement
Rendon looks for reasons to not play
(Corrected that for you)
@@rsuriyop both do.
@smartluck100 He had a strained calf which takes 6 to 8 weeks and missed 4.months
Mike Trout is garbage always has been he needs to retire he be lucky to be in HOF guy has done nothing but lose
Time for Mike Trout to move to full time DH.
Baseball is the only sport where you can be a career loser that’s never won anything and people pretend you’re on the level of puljos who has won , done it in the big moments . People don’t realize 70% of your success is where you play . Literally nobody gives a flying fuck about the angels he literally had no pressure his entire career , how many players have gone to the Sox or Yankees that were studs that literally folded like a lawn chair because the pressure got to them. Mookie is the face of this era and it’s not even close I’ve always thought trout was overrated af like one of the most overrated players in the history of the sport definition of good stats bad team player