I need to pick up Chailly's "Le Sacre," the good one. I have not heard it and have many, many recordings. I like Chailly's Varese recordings very much, and beautiful sonics.
Thank you for reviewing yet another intriguing item! I have not made a track-by-track comparison between this box and the Decca Stravinsky Ballets and Symphonies box (7CDs) but there seem to be a lot of overlappings. Apart from the 6 or so pieces by Chailly that are included in both boxes, many other pieces are also repeated (but by different conductors/orchestras). While the new box has more CDs it also contains two versions of several works. In your opinion will I miss out on a lot if I stick to my old Decca box and pass on the new one?
I also have real admiration for Chailly’s Stravinsky. That Decca two-fer contains many of my favorite performances, especially the terrific Cleveland Rite. For Jeux de Cartes, though, I actually prefer Stravinsky’s own recording with Cleveland that is drier and crisper. The Chailly Renard I have is on a disc with Walton’s Facade with Jeremy Irons and Peggy Ashcroft and is equally good.
Agree about the Oedipus Rex, but its not the first release. Its in the final Anthology of the Concertgebouw box which came out some years ago now. Its a radio recording and I enjoyed it perfectly well there, in the spirit of the whole enterprise, but yes there are better!
Glad to see all the London Sinfonietta stuff included. Strange they didn't include his Symphony of Psalms with the Deutsch Radio forces and his Cleveland Jeu De Cartes (both wonderful). As you said all his Concertgebouw stuff is fabulous!
The Symphony of Psalms is there--I mentioned it, and Jeu de Cartes is there too, but I must have misidentified the orchestra. Frankly, reading the backs of those CDs is very confusing, with the ensembles lumped at the end and what they play only marked by track numbers that are very tiny and hard to see.
@@DavesClassicalGuide Apologies for missing the Psalms and you were quite right about Jeu De Cartes too - it was the Concertgebouw. I should have checked the back sleeve of the Double Decca version more carefully! Apologies again.
Stokowskically balanced? He did use some odd seating arrangements. "Problematic Oedipi" might be a good name for a punk band composed of classics professors. I've always really enjoyed the Chailly Rite of Spring with Cleveland, it comes off as elementally natural, totally unforced but still rather exciting. Don't know much of Chailly's other takes on old Igor. I'll keep on listening!
Couldn't agree more about 'Jeu de cartes' - enormous fun! Fabulous writing for the woodwind and horns. I got to know the work from Stravinsky's own 1964 recording played by the Cleveland Orchestra. One of the numerous things to listen out for in any performance is how well the tuba player copes with a whole string of bottom Es in the third 'deal', to be played staccato - obviously no easy note to target. In that Cleveland recording the first one is too high in pitch, the second too low, before it's a case of third time lucky! Even in Chailly's recording with the Concertgebouw, the player doesn't quite achieve100% success! Just goes to prove that even the finest orchestras are still populated by humans - thank goodness!
Plural of Oedipus isn't Oedipi, but Oedipodes. I know you HATE corrections of your pronunciation, so I'm thrilled to slip one through that's not, strictly speaking, a matter of pronunciation (or importance, for that matter!) :*)
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One of the best unboxing video's I have seen in a long time!
The son of the box of doom. It won't kill you, just annoy you.
I need to pick up Chailly's "Le Sacre," the good one. I have not heard it and have many, many recordings. I like Chailly's Varese recordings very much, and beautiful sonics.
Thank you for reviewing yet another intriguing item! I have not made a track-by-track comparison between this box and the Decca Stravinsky Ballets and Symphonies box (7CDs) but there seem to be a lot of overlappings.
Apart from the 6 or so pieces by Chailly that are included in both boxes, many other pieces are also repeated (but by different conductors/orchestras). While the new box has more CDs it also contains two versions of several works. In your opinion will I miss out on a lot if I stick to my old Decca box and pass on the new one?
Same question for me!
No, you won't. Stick with the older one. Sometimes enough is enough.
I also have real admiration for Chailly’s Stravinsky. That Decca two-fer contains many of my favorite performances, especially the terrific Cleveland Rite. For Jeux de Cartes, though, I actually prefer Stravinsky’s own recording with Cleveland that is drier and crisper. The Chailly Renard I have is on a disc with Walton’s Facade with Jeremy Irons and Peggy Ashcroft and is equally good.
Great commentary as usual. One nit to pick, Game of Cards quotes the Barber of Seville overture.
Did I say Figaro? Oops. My bad. Barber is what I meant, and I thank you for the correction!
Oh God, I said William Tell! My brain is scrambled. A friend was watching old Lone Ranger episodes and I guess that got stuck in my head.
Agree about the Oedipus Rex, but its not the first release. Its in the final Anthology of the Concertgebouw box which came out some years ago now. Its a radio recording and I enjoyed it perfectly well there, in the spirit of the whole enterprise, but yes there are better!
Go tell Decca.
Original LP issues? Anyway I'd love to hear a discussion of your current take on LPs being issued with no CD equivalent.
Oy!
Glad to see all the London Sinfonietta stuff included. Strange they didn't include his Symphony of Psalms with the Deutsch Radio forces and his Cleveland Jeu De Cartes (both wonderful). As you said all his Concertgebouw stuff is fabulous!
The Symphony of Psalms is there--I mentioned it, and Jeu de Cartes is there too, but I must have misidentified the orchestra. Frankly, reading the backs of those CDs is very confusing, with the ensembles lumped at the end and what they play only marked by track numbers that are very tiny and hard to see.
@@DavesClassicalGuide Apologies for missing the Psalms and you were quite right about Jeu De Cartes too - it was the Concertgebouw. I should have checked the back sleeve of the Double Decca version more carefully! Apologies again.
@@allthisuselessbeauty-kr7 No problem! We're all in the same boat.
Stokowskically balanced? He did use some odd seating arrangements. "Problematic Oedipi" might be a good name for a punk band composed of classics professors. I've always really enjoyed the Chailly Rite of Spring with Cleveland, it comes off as elementally natural, totally unforced but still rather exciting. Don't know much of Chailly's other takes on old Igor. I'll keep on listening!
...stochastically, I think. But you probably knew that :)
If you put disc 10-11on top, it will be easier to pull out next time around.
I love your posts but must point out that Waltraud Meier is considered by many to be one of the great Wagner sopranos of any era.
More's the pity.
I miss firebird in its complete (1910) version
Couldn't agree more about 'Jeu de cartes' - enormous fun! Fabulous writing for the woodwind and horns. I got to know the work from Stravinsky's own 1964 recording played by the Cleveland Orchestra. One of the numerous things to listen out for in any performance is how well the tuba player copes with a whole string of bottom Es in the third 'deal', to be played staccato - obviously no easy note to target. In that Cleveland recording the first one is too high in pitch, the second too low, before it's a case of third time lucky! Even in Chailly's recording with the Concertgebouw, the player doesn't quite achieve100% success! Just goes to prove that even the finest orchestras are still populated by humans - thank goodness!
Plural of Oedipus isn't Oedipi, but Oedipodes. I know you HATE corrections of your pronunciation, so I'm thrilled to slip one through that's not, strictly speaking, a matter of pronunciation (or importance, for that matter!) :*)
Nice try, but I knew I was wrong, and so are you. It's Oediplex.
Eddypie!