*This War Was Bloody* The Falklands: The Remote Islands that Triggered the First Modern War
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They definately did not die for nothing , the people of the Falkland islands certainly don't think that . My brother was in the parachute regiment back in the 90s and respect the men who fought hard at Goose Green with great respect.
My brother was a sailor on HMS Intrepeid at the time. I have been to the Falklands three times myself and visited places like San Carlos and Goose Green.
Do you remember the Sir Galahad,, they died for nothing. I was on Hermes and was sent to pick up bodies and survivors, most of whom were mutilated burn victims. I fell out with a CPO on Furious because he called the dead " crusties". I punched him, sent to the brig and discharged from service. The gun battery I served with downed a mug and was responsible for damaging two others. I have never received my South Atlantic Medal. I did my duty to Queen, Country and to my fellow servicemen and tried to ensure the dead were treated with dignity instead of being told to through the crusties(dead) in a corner
I was 13 years old when this kicked off. A family friend who lived across the road from me went to the Falklands, he was in the parachute regiment, the whole housing estate we lived in came to wish him luck. Thankfully he came home, and again the whole housing estate came to welcome him home. He never spoke about it to anyone. All I know is, he was never the same. He was a great guy.
Fuck.. I almost forgot we used to have community 😕
@@lancewhitchurch512 ye mate, used to.
@@lancewhitchurch512
Yeah, we had a young lad go from our village. The banners were out when he left. And when he returned.
We still despise the dogs over the Galaghad
@@lancewhitchurch512 😭
Argentina as such did not exist at the time Spain withdrew, so basically they have no claim to the Islands at all. I went down to the Islands with 3 Commando Brigade in April 1982.
Respect fella
My cousin was there . Didn’t care to talk about it. He was in 4 2 commando
@@mikeymikeFType I'd probably know him and I understand his reticence
@@MichaelCampin . There’d be a more than fair chance of you knowing him. Tight brotherhood. Unassuming guy,nice as pie and hard as nails. All of you guys are. Total respect and appreciation for anyone serving currently and in the past.
I was a junior surgeon on the UK Hospital Ship Uganda for the conflict. There was a lot of work! We treated more Argentinians than British troops. The wounded were treated to achieve stability at a field hospital onshore then evacuated to our ship for ongoing care. Only 1 soldier died of his wounds on our Hospital Ship.
Why did the British send a Task Force to retake The Falklands? For the same reason that the USA sent its military to retake the Alaskan Aleutian Islands that had been invaded by the Japanese in June 1942.
"It's OUR territory, NOT yours, and we intend to take it back!". 🙂
wot?! Just like the Hawaiian Islands??
Hear Hear
@@stirlingmoss4621
The Aleutian Islands. They are the western most part of Alaska.
Did I say Hawaii? No. Duh! 🙄
Alot of oil under the Falklands. Enough to stop iraq,Iran and even ruzzia supplying the world. Also massive oil and gas fields under the black sea next to Ukraine and Romania. It's all about the bigger picture
The Falkland islands belong to the Falklanders... Which means they are British for as long as they wish them to remain so....
They are the only people who have any say in the matter in the future
Don't poke the lion. It may be old, almost toothless and sleeps most of the time. But if you poke it, it will come for you and remind you that there is life in the old cat yet.
Wise words.
Exactly, just as Russia are finding out in Ukraine.
I visited the Falklands for 5 days last year, it's beautiful and is proudly British.
The British even did a mass bayonet charge during one of the battles in the Falklands. They came charging down a hill during heavy fog in the dead of night to attack an Argentine base. Argentine survivors described it as like something out of a medieval battle.
Simon Weston was a Guardsman and is a survivor of the Sir Galahad - one of the many men severely burned in the fire onboard. He's taken up charity work since his injuries rendered him unfit for service and is one of the best known survivors of the war.
And Simon met and shook hands with the Argentinian that dropped the missile on Sir Galahad.
@angelabushby1891 missiles don't get dropped, bombs get dropped missiles get fired 😉
@@davidhumphreys7035 They get dropped if you're careless handling them ;-)
@lloydcollins6337 true enough! As some of my colleagues found out when they dropped a 1000lber on the pan at Coltishall!
Simon is also well known for the anti-war image (and yes I did support the British troops during the war) taken from the sun newspaper.
The image is of a severely burnt and crippled s.weston stooping to attention while a pristinely uniformed Prince Charles festooned in medals shakes his hand.
The caption reads ' The Prince said "get well soon"
And the heroic soldier replied 'Yes sir! I will!"
Very powerful image.
He Left out the Attack on Pebble Island which had an Airfield with Ground Attack Aircraft by the SAS which was Totally Successful with no loss of life on the British side .
I served on HMS Coventry during the conflict and got a free swim in the south Atlantic for my troubles. It was flipping cold.
We arrived in the TEZ the day you took your swim, HMS Cardiff. Respect shipmate, what branch was you.
@@brianshipman5313 weapons engineering (o) 1st class, not sure I was that good myself. Got back home and ended up going back down a year or so later on HMS Newcastle. Was a bit of a type 42 freak as my last ship was HMS York.
@@1oriss Do you know George Steve Annable
If he was on Cov, I'm sure I would know the face, however I left the Navy in 87 and haven't seen anyone since then memory fades, I'm hard put to remember my next door neighbour's name never mind people I haven't had contact with for over 40 years. Sorry. 😂
@@1oriss Yes he was a Greenie on the Cov , mad as a bucket of frogs.
While a sense of patriotism has sort of died in the UK, the Falkland Islanders have a strong patriotic sense. They strongly identify as British.
I've served down there a couple of times and find their attitude refreshing as I'm a patriot too.
It was killed not sorta died
It's not dead at all!
@CeleWolf it's alive and well in older generations, but it seems to be dying amongst the younger ones
Can’t believe he missed the main event of the war out , the Vulcan mission to bomb the runway on the island
I used to work with an ex paratrooper who fought in that war, he said it was actually smooth but he was a mad bastard
I served two tours on the Falklands, not a place you might think to fight for but to the islanders it’s home and British.
UK stole the islands, expelled Argentinian people, implanted its own and now begs for self-determination
On the other hand, UK is one of the countries that rejects the will of Crimean and Donbass people to be part of Russia
My son who was in the Navy, was sent to Ascension island to load the Royal Navy ships. He worked his butt off although he never went right down to the Falklands. He even had a write up in our local newspaper saying he deserved praise for his efforts. I was proud of him.
My dad was on Ascension too as part of the fleet air arm.
I arrived on Ascension on April 4th. I was one of only two RN stores accountants there loading stores for the ships for the first month. We were then joined by two others so I would be interested to know the name of your son. I can only remember Jimmy Jewell.
Takes twelve to support one fighter, so ALL involved are heroes. 😂
I was in 2 Para and was involved in this as an 18 year old lad it's was damn cold. But we was sent and had a job to do I was 'C' coy we went up the coast line and came under attack which we overcome up the hill above Goose and went against a garrison around the schoolhouse that was a hard slog.
You’re part of the best of the best !
My Dads pal was in 2 Para at Goose, Gary, Yorkshire man. Can't recall his second name..
'If a man says he is not afraid of dying he is either lying or is a Gurkha' - field marshal Sam Makeshaw
or he has PTSD
Or he's Mad Jack Churchill or Blair 'Paddy' Mayne
"Gurka" means cucumber in Swedish. It's not what you said, but it's close enough.
@@matthewjamison Gurkhas don't need a bottle of Single Malt to make them go Berserk!
@bremnersghost948 Paddy didn't need it either. But he's Irish & sure dam love it. And made no apologises for it. Every mission he went on was suicidal & many men were lost each time. Paddy lead from the front every time. If the drink was that big of an issue he wouldn't of made it home after the war.
Been there 1999 the Island is more British than ourselves
My Dad was 19 when he and his ship (HMS Antrim) sailed south to recapture the Falkland Islands and South Georgia Island.
HMS Antrim was the flagship during Operation Paraquet to recapture South Georgia Island (and consequentially, also playing a key role in the detection and disabling of the Santa Fe submarine.)
Once the South Georgia Island was successfully recaptured, HMS Antrim and the rest of the task group regrouped with the main task force to recapture the Falkland Islands. And it was here, in bomb alley that the ship was struck by a 1000lb bomb, which thankfully didn't explode! My Father and his shipmates were very close to death on that day.... But, thankfully, the war ended on the 14th June (My Dad's 20th birthday).
Check out the story of the Vulcan bombers flying down to the Falkland Islands to attack the air field. They were backed up by a fleet of Victor tankers. It's an amazing feet flying all the way down there and back. You will love the story.
the Black Buck raids
My dad served in the Falklands, Royal Navy 27 years, , he saw sights kept his silence, i was 7 at that time, may he rest in peace i remember watching the ships return home as a child, may those served find peace .....x
What ship? my brother was on Intrepid at the time
A late friend of mine was in the Falklands, serving with the Royal Artillery. I only saw him with tears in his eyes twice in all the decades I knew him.
The second time was as he was struggling to know what to do to comfort me as I broke down in front of him as I was going through the grief of losing my wife to cancer.
The first, tho', was as he spoke, very, very, briefly of seeing the young Argentine conscripts scattered about the grassland as his unit advanced. He didn't feel any pride for what he had helped do, which probably says good things about his character as a human being and we never pressed him again to talk about it. Seeing a man as tough as he was with that glistening in his eyes told us all we ever needed to know about how horrible war is.
EDIT: One thing to note for further research is that the resistance of the Marines on the Falklands to the initial invasion was *much* more substantial than is usually recounted in programmes like this. That is because at the time, there was a window in which the British government still thought there was a chance to sort things out diplomatically and the Marines stand was so effective that the government thought that highlighting the Argentine casualties would be counterproductive. Those guys even drove off one of the Argentine navy ships using their anti-tank weapons!
I think there was an error in the original video where the commentator said 20 Harriers had been lost during the Falklands War. The actual total was 10, 4 were shot down by enemy ground fire, the other 6 lost due to accidents, such as rolling off the deck of a ship in rough weather. None were lost in combat with enemy aircraft. The Argentinians lost at least 20 aircraft in air to air combat, although the total may be as high as 27.
Close, it was 2 SHAR and 3 GR3 to ground fire. 4 SHAR to accidents and 1 GR3 had an accident with the temporary landing pad.
25 Helios lost to ground fire, crashed or went down with a ship.
Argentina lost 21 to the SHAR, 15 to the Royal Navy (missile or AAA), 7 to ground fire missiles and at least 2 to friendly fire. A further 21 destroyed on the ground.
@@recce8619 Thanks for the update of aircraft losses.
The night march on June 11th is in my opinion a perfect example of the grit and determination of the British soldier., 3 Para trudged 50 miles through really shitty terrain to get to port Stanley coming under fire during the march and fighting a battle when they arrived. Heroes to a man .!!
As a 51 year old in the uk its the first war that i remember! Sad to follow as it played out but happy when it ended. I still shed a tear to this day as it was very costly!
13:50 The look on Kitts face....If I was there I would be saying this gets a whole lot worse than this - RFA Sir Galahad, HMS Sheffield, HMS Coventry, General Belgrano, Atlantic Conveyer, HMS Ardent, HMS Antelope....and that's just the Naval losses :O The War could have gone either way and thats according to the Senior Officers involved in the conflict, the Royal Navy found out how woeful their air defence systems were as Sea Slug SAM was used to bomb the airfield because they were hopeless, Sea Cat SAM was too slow and short ranged as it was based on an anti tank missile( It was the most numerous missile in the fleet and the Argentine Pilots feared it more than the Radar Missiles), Sea Dart whilst a great missile was hamstrung by the Royal Navy using the Antique 1950s Type 965 Radar on their brand new Type 42 Destroyers of 1975 (HMS Sheffield and Coventry were sunk due to being unable to defend themselves due to not detecting low level targets flying over land/ Sea Skimming Exocets which were even harder to see) Only HMS Exeter and HMS Invincible the Carrier had great Radar with the Type 1022 which was used past the 2010's. Finally Sea Wolf SAM was the most capable as it was designed to deal with Sea Skimming missiles like Exocet and had a very good radar to do this with - Unfortunately the system was very very new and issues cropped up in the field and had to be patched by Marconi Engineer's due to the Radar getting confused when 2 aircraft fly very close together and then split up - the computer tries to keep the blips together and cant so it crashed. Only 3 ships had Sea Wolf and 1 was always babysitting the carriers - HMS Broadsword, HMS Brilliant and HMS Andromeda. The BBS also kindly reported how the Argentine Bombs fusing was incorrect...of course the Argentine Air Force promptly adjusted their weapons accordingly costing more lives. Don't blame the Argentines....but the BBC's actions were in my eyes Treason
Fun fact. The Falklands conflict was the last time British troops entered battle to the sound of Bagpipes
Oil has been found southeast of the Falklands and in the region of British Antarctic territory. While some argentines want another go at retaking the islands by force, frankly the British navy is better equipped now and the spanking would be much worse of an economic hit to Argentina now.
I think its a fair estimate to say that Milei won't go for that, he seems to understand Argentina needs to focus inwardly to solve its problems, and as stated, Argentina only went after islands the first time to ignore internal issues.
We don't have a navy anymore, but we do have an air base that Liebour will soon remove i am sure
@TheSmittenman We have a Navy, smaller no doubt, but alot more powerful. Labour wouldn't dare and their is an agreement with the islanders to protect them.
They've been talking about oil off the Falkland Islands for years and we are still waiting to see a drop of it!
@@B-A-L Because its being sat upon. Because its deep and therefore expensive to extract. Once the Middle East is way past peak and the world reserves are dwindling, then it will be extracted.
I served there for 4 months in 1987. It was a fantastic country with fantastic people and amazing wild life. I would love to go back.
My friend fought in the Falklands in the Para’s. He said it was so cold they walked across a field and found out later it was a minefield. None went off due to the cold.
My neighbour went afterwards to clear the mines.
Not true !
The ground was never frozen during the conflict. It was cold but slushy and wet throughout. I was there. 2 Para A company mentioned in Lt Gen Frost's book.
Thanks for watching this. I was there as a corporal in J company 42 Commando and was wounded on Mount Harriet.
As a comparison today between the UK and Argentina, we (the UK) have two aircraft carriers with the most modern jets on board, however we probably could not project the ground forces required to retake the islands due to the lack of commercial shipping and experience which now exist in the UK. This was glossed over in the video but within days of the task force being declared by Thatcher cruise and cargo ships had returned to UK shipyards, which then worked around the clock stripping out furnishings, plating over swimming pools, fitting helicopter landing pads etc to ships so they could be used for transporting everything.
These days we don't have the shipyards any more, and the UK Merchant Navy is tiny even compared to the 1980s, so we'd have no capacity to move cargo.
What is in our favour though is we built an absolutely HUMUNGOUS military base on the Falklands, with a massive airport, permanently stationed fighter jets, and troops which means the chances of Argentina taking the islands in the first place is minimal, and we could have reinforcements in place via air within 72 hours.
For their part, Argentina is still mostly flying the exact same planes which took part in the war in the 80s - literally the same planes, which are now falling apart and would be immediately vulnerable to the anti-air missiles stationed on the island, as well as the figher jets there. Any incoming troop ships could then be bombed thanks to air superiority, and if needed I'm sure we could launch cruise missiles into Argentina itself from any submarines nearby.
The Argies were young conscripts, who were poorly trained, equipped and dressed. I was Commando Logistic Regimenr, attached to the Booties, at the time
How long were you there with the loggies? We joined them at Carpool? Not sure about the spelling, in 1985,
True, but they were more frightened of their officers than us. Also fortunately for us they were equipped with full auto Belgian FNs on full auto nobody could hit a pig's arse in a passage.
@@AlunElderBrown Not all of them. There were elite forces there. Explained in the account that the family of my husband’s cousins inquest concluded. Many were properly trained.
I was there and the first RN vessel to berth in Port Stanley. There were Argentinian prisoners in long columns through the town. They had excellent winter clothing and equipment. They just were not brilliant at using it.
Not all the enemy were conscripts.
Please react to Jeremy Clarksons ' Victoria Cross' and 'The Greatest Raid' documentaries (in that order for no spoilers). Amazing stories that won't disappoint 👌
Seconded❤
@@thunderfalcon55 thrived
I fourth this recommendation.
Absolutely
Love to hear to hear your Gurkha story. They are legenday in the UK and have complete respect of the British
22 SAS, SBS, GHURKAS, PARAS, ROYAL MARINES and some highly professional regular British army regiments v Argentinian conscripts. What were they thinking, the British army is small but they super high speed operators. You do not want to fight these guys, they are some of the most dangerous men on the planet.
@@Stand663 That's not true at all. Most soldiers today are volunteers, not conscripts (conscription is a law that says if you are able to fight, you have to fight). And launching a full scale invasion doesn't mean the soldiers weren't poorly trained and equipped.
@@Stand663 Yes I know, that's a given. This does not mean that all soldiers start off as conscripts, as a consript is someone forced into the military.
The Argies had a core of regular troops and did have their own special forces on the islands, some of which were knocked out byt the M&AW Cadre at Top Malo house.
My (English born) Dad had been a Para in his younger days, but had left the army in the 70s. I was 6 years old in 1982,and living in New Zealand but I was aware that some of my Dad's former colleagues were in harms way. Some were killed by the invading Argies.
RNZN sent ships to take over Royal Navy patrols around the world allowing the RN to free up their ships to go south and assist liberating the Falklands. Much Kudos to the Kiwis for stepping up and supporting us (again)
The ARA General Belgrano used to be the USS Phoenix, a Pearl Harbor surviver and WW2 light cruiser. She was actually escorted by several other Argentinian ships however they fled rather than trying to rescue survivors as they feared also being torpedoed by the submarine which sank the Belgrano.
What video didn't really touch upon was that the _Atlantic Conveyor_ went down with a big chunk of the helicopter troop transports. This forced the first ground troops into a brutal 50 mile march into battle. With the unforgiving terrain, freezing temperatures and constant harassment by the Argentinian air I don't imagine it was much fun.
It also missed out the successful SAS raid to take out the Argentine held airstrip on Pebble Island. Another plan for a SAS raid on the main airbase at Rio Grande, on the Argentine mainland was drawn up. In the end it was scrapped - not because it was crazy and almost certainly a one-way trip but because of a lack of reliable ground intelligence.
The SAS were also involved in the initial retaking of South Georgia (where the sub was later attacked) - they were the ones who led to the two helicopters at the beginning being lost, and a third one almost going down, due to them trying to attack from atop a glacier filled with crevasses which they couldn't cross, meaning they had to be extracted. This is as told by Rear Admiral Chris Parry, who was at the time a crewmember on the third helicopter which got out successfully after rescuing the passengers and crew of the other two helos.
@Shoomer1988 It was a good thing the raid on the Argentinian airbase was scrapped, as it was later found that the airbase was very well protected and would have shot down the two Hercules aircraft carrying the SAS. Leading to hundreds of British fatalities.
@@lloydcollins6337 The initial landing of the SAS on South Georgia was a cock-up caused by their failure to listen to scientists from the British Antarctic Survey. It wasn't crevasses, so much as the extreme weather on the glacier overlooking the Argentinian positions. Aside from the extreme cold, there were continuous hurricane force winds which made it impossible for anyone to survive those conditions. When helicopters tried to extract the SAS troopers there were white-out conditions which caused the first two helicopters to crash. The third helicopter, which was heavily overloaded, only managed to get out of there by travelling at walking pace and having a crewman hanging out the door trying to see where the sides of mountains were in brief moments of visibility. Amazing that the whole lot weren't killed in those extreme conditions.
The SAS captain in charge of the recce troop may have been arrogant to ignore the warnings from the scientists of the BAS and nearly kill his men, but he was very brave also. Later in the conflict a scrape hole being used by the captain and a sergeant to observe the Argentinians had its cover blown off by a nearby Argentinian helicopter exposing the pair. The captain ordered his sergeant to escape whilst he provided covering fire. The captain then moved forward to attack the Argentine position. He was hit numerous times whilst attacking the enemy position, before being killed. The Argentinian officer in charge of the position the captain was attacking said later "that he was the bravest man I have ever seen" and recommended him for the Victoria Cross. That was not possible because his action was not witnessed by any British soldier, although I think he was awarded a posthumous Military Cross. Sorry I can't remember the Captain's name.
.......... also the long distance bombing raids to try and take out Port Stanley's runway by RAF Vulcan Bombers (and the logistical nightmare of all the in-flight refuelling)
I was on the Conveyor when she was hit. Two Chinooks were lost.
My dad was a Cheif Petty Officer on HMS Hermes, he was an armourer. One of the lesser known facts was that the USA was resupplying us with Laser Guided Bombs. They were airdropped into the sea, then the armourers had to go and recover them. Only problem was the crates were too big for dingies, they had to open them at sea and recover the bombs. A fair few were ruined by seawater.
I was based in the Falklands for 6 months. I liked the place.. the winters are cruel and the summers are cool. But the landscape is wonderful.
Dad was there served on HMS Cardiff, was only 6 at the time but remember it vividly. Watching, Dad and the ships coming back into Portsmouth harbour is a lifelong memory. have never been or will ever be in a crowd that large before or ever.
we lost many friends, most of them on HMS Sheffield
When the real empire strikes back 💪💪
I was in the Territorial Army at the time - we couldn't be sent because the balloon had to go up before they brought us in, so even though I was on the same type of equipment L118/ L19 that the Brit's used (The Light Gun) we never were even discussed.
HOWEVER - every Territorial Unit gets Regular Army assigned to them in key positions, and following the Falklands our Battery got two lads who had manned the guns during the 'Special Operations of the Argentinian Military Junta', a Sergeant and a Warrant Officer. Both were mad as a box of frogs and bloody good at getting 'lessons learned' across.
How to boil a sheep in a bin - naaah , not so good,
How to stop the gun sinking into the peat - very useful as most of our training was up in Otterburn/Redesdale, very similar to the Falklands,
Lots of tips about maintenance, the stuff you have to do and the stuff you can get away with, the Gun Drill Book would have you focusing on aspects that were not always relevant to day after day of fire missions,
Look after the Gun Bunnies - if your lads are down you can't do bugger all.
And Ammunition, Ammunition and then Ammunition. Artillery rounds and charges are delivered in very robust packaging, they take a lot of work to get them ready for firing and create a lot of litter after you have got them ready - if you don't keep a tidy gun platform you could end up in deep shit.
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i was an NCO in 40 Commando Royal Marines and had also been a member of Naval Party 8901 the year before. Per Mare, Per Terram
Two of my cousins were there in the Navy and 45 Commando. One took the famous photograph of the Argentine surrender. He gave me the identification plaque from a downed Argentine helicopter.
No one really believed we could win this war, but then no one expected us to raise a task force in 2 weeks and sail 6000 miles to fight.
Free democracy or military dictatorship? What a choice - what would you choose?
Saying the Falklands islands don't matter, is the same as saying Hawaii doesn't matter.
The initial invasion was 68 Royal Marines with rifles on the islands that went up against armoured personnel carriers and 600 +SF Argie troops initially with around 3000 following . Escalating to some 11,000 more coming in.
It wasn't for no reason, it was for British subjects held hostage by hostile forces.
The Argies were shit scared of the Gurkhas, the Argies thought they would be eaten by the Gurkhas, we did nothing to dispel this myth.
The marines were in the middle of a handover, so there were twice as many there as usual.
I visited the Falkland Islands as a tourist almost 20 years ago. I can confidently say that the residents are much more British than the residents of Britain. I'm Australian, so I don't have a dog in this fight.
My grandfather's generation would have considered the death count rather tame compared to the death's they saw with there own eyes , compare the 7,000 deaths on D-Day and that is the first day of the assault on occupied Europe, to have so small a number over 3 months 8,000 miles away is down right amazing.
I remember most people thought that Argentina had invaded an island off the coast of Scotland.
It was truly Awe inspiring for me to watch the whole of the UK go from a nuclear disarmament protesting and the troubles in Ireland , unemployment problems to literally stop in it's tracks and the UK turn it's focus on Argentina, 1 people 1 goal united it was a rare experience for me and I can see why the UK were so dominant around the globe.
I was in the Royal Navy (Fleet Air Arm) at the time. I helped build parts and modify those Helicopters that went down with the 'Atlantic Conveyer', the supply ship that was attacked by the Argentines. All my hard work went to waste ............ Cest la vie I suppose. I left the Navy the following year.
I remember seeing an interview with Robert Lawrence who fought in the Faulklands war, in the battle of mount tumbledown, towards the end of the war, the Argentinian forces had taken up defensive positions on the mountain and Lawrences company had to take them on, it was a bloody battle, he told his story, his first time in combat at just 19 years old i believe, him and his comrades had charged up the mountain and taken out a few Argentinian soilders, when his rifle jammed and he had to resort to the bayonet..... and during this ordeal his bayonet snapped but he had to continue with the broken weapon. It was quite grisly the way he described it.
He was wounded in the head by a bullet and they didn't think he would survive but he did. After the war he was quite despondent about the military and the way he and fellow veterans were treated.
It was a war between Argentina and the U.K, Great Britain is made up of England, Scotland & Wales, include Northern Ireland and it becomes the United Kingdom. I point this out to you because the Irish Guards were also involved in the Falklands War.
A little side story, my dad was working on the sister ship to the invincible the aircraft carrier hms illustrious under construction at the Swan hunters shipyard on tyneside North east England, he spent three months at work alongside thousands of other shipyard workers living on site to complete the illustrious to join the task force if the conflict continued on, the illustrious was completed several months early and was the only royal navy ship ever to be commissioned on route to a conflict, there is actual footage on UA-cam of a senior royal navy officer signing the ship over from the builder as it was sailing to the Falklands down the river tyne,it arrived to relieve hermes and provide air support
You know how Americans get when you mess with their boats?……that’s how the Brits feel about our Islands. You don’t touch His Majesty’s Clay!!
My brother & I were there & my other brother was there a month later 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
14:18 The Belgrano was originally the American light cruiser USS Pheonix. She was first commissioned in 1938 and is notable for having survived the attack on Pearl Harbor and gaining 11 battle stars over the course of WW2 before being sold to Argentina.
Iirc, she was the only ship to come out of Pearl Harbour undamaged
@@sirboomsalot4902 HMS Conqueror saw it off 🇬🇧
@@necessaryevil3428My last boat. Time up in 79 though.
If I'm not mistaken HMS Conqueror sunk her with WWII era torpedoes
And coincidentally, she was finally sunk by a WWII era torpedo!
A friend of mine flew a Vulcan bomber during the War. It was terrifying.
It is often mistakenly stated that our CO Herbert Jones was killed during the battle of Goose Green, he wasn't! I was 15 yards away when he was shot in the back on "Darwin Hill" he ran toward the enemy on his own, continuing past an Argentinian position when he was shot. He had led us into an indefensible position and it was only the flanking manoeuvre of Major Chris Keeble crossing the beach even though it wss thought to be mined, that saved our arses. Jones was said to be single handedly attacking an Argentinian position, if so why did he run straight past it.
Jones was not a good or popular officer !!!
i heard similar from a bloke i was on a sales course with many years ago , top bloke , i cannot remember his name unfortunatly
There is a UA-camr that served on HMS Sheffield (Shiny Sheff), Jeff Taylor. There is also a pub in my home city of Sheffield named after her, Shiny Sheff. Jeff has a video of him giving a talk at the pub on his channel.
I was 15 at the time and at school, one of my friends older brothers served. An ex-work college has been the Governor of the Falklands for a number of years now and I believe is due to return back to the UK later this year :)
fun story, whilst my dad didnt serve in the falklands he did serve in Northern Ireland, they were encountered by a group of Argentinian tourists who begged for a photo with a soldier, it being my dads birthday they made him pose for the picture in front of an Argentinian flag the tourists had brough with them, the day this was taken? April 1st 1982, 24 hours before the invasion began haha
Those who say no-one cared about the Falklands are missing the point; apart from the fact that the Falklanders certainly cared, the islanders enjoyed the Queen's protection. We had to retake the islands, or our word would've meant nothing.
Prince Andrew fought in the Falklands .
It wasn't mentioned in this video, but the British warships that sunk were constructed of a new steel composite, which turned out to be higly flammable, and provided less armour than normal steel, which is why the French made Exocet missiles were so successful. After the first Royal Navy ship was sunk, the 2 aircraft carriers were ordered to sail 200 miles to the east of the Falkland Islands, to beyond the range of the Argentinian missile planes, but that also reduced the amount of time that the Harriers could remain "on station" defending the rest of the Naval ships.
If you're interested, I recommend a video on "Operation Black Buck", which was an attack on the Falklands by an RAF Vulcan bomber that flew approx 8,000 miles before dropping it's bombs on the airfield at Port Stanley.
With the Panama Canal suffering from Water issues atm and Ships having to go around the Cape, It would be good business to build Repair and refuelling stations again on the Falklands
The submarine HMS Conqueror, who sank the Belgrano, is (and still is) the first/only Nuclear submarine to ever sink anything. The Belgrano used to be the USS Phoenix, which had survived pearl Harbour. It was ultimately sunk by a similarly vintage 1940s era torpedo from Conqueror because they didn't trust the modern 1980s ones.
When I was a young soldier I had a minor, and non dramatic, role in Op Corporate. It was all very exiting, and to be honest, I loved every moment of it - and not having any bad happen to me or mine has to help. It was terrifying at time, but the ardenaline high more than made up for it. This really is a brief overview - a more detail is there to be had. The Argentinian Junta were NOT nice people, and the images of the tiny garrison lying in the street after their surrender on 2nd April inflamed us all. A great little movie "An Ungentalmany Act" does great justice to that invasion. It was a just war, and one I was very happy to have minor role in.
When I joined the Royal Navy, much of the original education was based on lessons learned from the Falkland's war and I also briefly swap-drafted on Glasgow who was out there. I have known of several Falklander's in the past and they are thriving, enjoying life and doing well, they just wish Argentina would withdraw their entirely spurious claims on the Island. The Falklander's have lived there longer than Argentina as a country has existed.
As an ex member of the Royal Navy, my view is, this is what our military is for, we must always stand on principle and we must defend our people (Falklanders are our people for as long as they wish to remain as such). The primary function of the British military is to protect its people.
Our good friend the USA also offered as much support as we required, they supplied aviation fuel, the (at the time) lastest sidewinders to replace our older variants and intelligence. They also offered direct military support, however that kind offer was not taken up. It's important we remember who our friends are.
Nice reaction, buddy. Tumbledown was hand to hand at the end, according to my Dad's mate Jake. He watched his Lieutenant break his bayonet in an Argentinian's face and then kill him with the stump. I only mention that because that officer was shortly after shot by a sniper and became the main character in an excellent BBC series (before they became woke and communist and all that) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumbledown
Something Geographics skips over is the wider South American context - Argentina was a junta trying to distract from domestic problems, to that end, they intended to go to war with Chile in 1978. A plan was drawn up to invade a few islands in the southern part of the militarily weaker junta, but Chile appealed to the Pope when they saw Argentina agitating and beginning to mobilise. Unfortunately, Pope Paul VI died of old age only shortly after Chile's appeal was sent. The Vatican then elected John Paul I after a period of 20 days, who died after only 33 days in office. Unsurprisingly, there are conspiracy theories about this. A few weeks later, the Vatican elected John Paul II, who told Argentina something like "no, Catholic countries don't go to war against Catholic countries. Stop it".
Argentina, with a large devout population, had to comply. At least, for as long as people remembered the Pope's words well enough for it to matter; they could always invade Chile some other day. But domestic problems were getting worse, and they needed something. So they cast around, and settled on the Falklands. (They actually did attempt to invade Chile between JPII's election and his declaration, but severe storms forced them to delay, and the Pope managed to make a statement before a new invasion could be staged).
Because of all this, Chile's dictator made a secret agreement with Thatcher; he would give Britain intelligence from Chilean radar stations and station his army on the northern stretch of the Chilean-Argentinian border, in return, Britain would give Argentina the kicking Chile couldn't. You be the judge as to whether the British upheld their part.
The Vatican actively mediated between Chile and Argentina starting 1978 through Italian Cardinal Antonio Samoré. The negotiations concluded into the Peace and Friendship Treaty of 1984.
Chile helped Britain in the War, but the limits settlement was negotiated beteeen both Chile and Argentina and ratified in Arg through Plebiscite.
My mate Archie was on Sheffield. All he said was 'that water was bloody cold'.
I can confirm that. My fingers were numb within two minutes. I spent about twenty minutes in the water before being pulled onto a life raft. I couldn't even hold the rope on the outside, someone else tied rope around my arm.
This war could have been avoided if the Argentinians hadn't invaded.
think of it this way.....If a country invaded an island belonging to the US with US citizens living there you can guarantee that the US would retake it by force. It is the duty of any country to protect it's citizens no matter how few there are in the same way as special forces would be sent to rescue a few hostages.
As you can see, the Argentinian military government were not exactly kind to their own people.
Despite desperate attempts by the UK for a diplomatic solution we were left with no choice, not only for the welfare of the islanders but we needed to send a clear message to the world that they can't just invade our territories.
Good point Hawaii is closer to Japan than anywhere else and we all know what would happen if Japan decided to invade. (Again?)
Pero las islas no le pertenecen a Inglaterra, fueron invadidas.
Fueron ocupadas en 1833, desalojando a las autoridades y a la poblacion de argentinos que estaban alli.
Si conocieras el significado de la palabra "equidad" advertirias que tu mismo razonamiento podria haberse aplicado en 1833.
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Traduzca, VAGO...
Es lo que hice yo.
The main modern problem for the poor Falkland Islanders is an old one. Oil. There have been several surveys for possible oil deposits in the sea owned by the islands. No word has been received to date on whether any has been found, please feel free to correct me if I’m mistaken here. However, Argentina, which, unfortunately, has a troubled history with their economy and their reputation for paying back loans being equally awful. Of course, the prospect of oil has bought the Argentine government back into openly contesting ownership of the islands.
The argument has been made worse by the UN sticking its nose in and stating any remaining British Overseas Territories are colonies under pressure from countries like Argentina. These areas have usually stated their democratic right to remain British Territories, but the UN have ignored this; while countries like France, Italy, Portugal, and Spain retain enclaves in Africa and the South Pacific by stating rather disingenuously these areas as “sovereign territory overseas” what the difference between that and colonies is, well, it’s beyond me, but the UN seems to accept it. Again, if I am wrong here, please correct me.
Worse, for the Islanders, there have been moves in the South American countries to form stronger trade ties to compete with other economies. However, Argentina has been using this extra muscle in attempts to intimidate Britain and the Falkland Islanders. Whether the other countries would commit citizens to an Argentine conflict is a valid one, but by not calling out their ally for using threats they only encourage it to further march towards the road to war. This has not been helped by pro-Argentine support from within the European Union, who would happily give up Britain’s sovereignty over the islands to secure a favourable trading status with the South American bloc.
The matter is a done deal to the Islanders and Britain. However, some of the government of Argentina, are determined to assert its doubtful claims over the democratic elected will of the Falklands. Whatever the reality or outcome of this so far diplomatic dispute; Argentine mines are being discovered all over the islands.
As an aside; apparently an American intelligence suit told Argentina that it would not support any attempt by Britain to retain the islands, which they saw as an open invitation to the islands. I’m pretty sure that is just the usual scuttlebutt from the armed forces. However, Reagan apparently phoned Margaret Thatcher and threatened repercussions if any Argentine American dragged into war got hurt. She told him to bugger off without hesitation. Thankfully, Reagan apparently admired Maggie’s pluck and dropped the matter. It did settle one thing though: Britain would not to be able to rely on its standard ally for open help or support, even with satellite imagery. Again, maybe urban myth, maybe true, but any general research into the war will turn up these nuggets.
Apologies for length and may the dispute remain purely diplomatic.
Hope this helps. Have a great day.
Oil was recently discovered on the seabed near the Falklands, which has once again started off discussions about ownership as the Argentinians believe the oil is theirs and their ports would be needed for logistical support for any drilling operations to take place.
With regards to the comments from Reagan, I'm not sure of what he said to Thatcher, but there is also an open "secret" that once Argentina showed they weren't discussing the matter in good faith with the Americans trying to mediate, he offered the use of a (small) aircraft carrier if one of the British ones got sunk or damaged. Of course we never had to take the US up on this offer.
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Oil has been found in Flakland Island territorial waters. They've known about it for quite some time no actually. Only problem is that its located pretty deep down and as thus is expensive to extract. Ao until now it's remained untapped. But as oil starts to become less available from current deposits thatvatr easier to drill they'll then start to drill the harder to reach deposits such as in the Falklands. There's also such deposits off the west/northwest coast of Scotland too. Again deep down and expensive ro drill, for now. So it's easier and more cost effective to drill in the North Sea for more, for now. Argentina also have a bit of a problem with the deposits around the Falklands, as they still say Las Malvinas belong to them, so the oil does too and the riches that it'd ultimately bring. So there's diplomatic reasons for not drilling at the moment too as well as financial considerations.
Your remark about the aircraft carriers?? had the Atlantic conveyor not been sunk by those missiles then the British Forces would have had many more heavy lift (Chinook) helicopters and the war would have been over so much quicker...! (just a side note....the UK has an exchange programme with the US and with Australia and new Zealand, at the time of the war an Australian helicopter pilot was serving with the British Forces and he went down to the Falklands and flew during and after the actually warfare.)
Simon Weston and all the Welsh Guards on the Sir Galahad should not have been maimed, burnt or killed. They were still on board when attacked in daylight, something that Ewan Southby-Taylor (an expert about the Falklands as he’d kayaked around every inch of it, so he was rather upset to find the Guards were still relaxing with no sense of urgency.
Despite every effort to get them off this large, stationary target and the die was cast.
I missed this, having joined the Royal Marines as a sprog officer (2Lt) but for the Falklands I was with the British SBS (like the SAS, only better and less publicly known) and was based in an OP doing a bit of plane spotting in the Tierra del Fuego, giving Northwood back in the UK the intel as well as giving the RN the heads up of what we saw was headed their way. Our SAS colleagues were further north doing pretty much the same thing - plane spotting and ensuring we weren’t caught.
The Argentinian military had a bad reputation courtesy of the School of the Americas training in “enhanced interrogation techniques” (torture if you didn’t know) but the CIA/The Brotherhood probably caused more instability around the world without any thought given to the future or how it would drastically change world politics.
When they handed over a shedload of money to Osama bin Laden along with supplies of Stingers just to stick it to the Russians in Ghanners there was no thought given about how this might affect American foreign policy in the future but the Saudis had plenty of ideas and as their prodigal son Osama knew the Americans quite well he had several teams of Saudis (19 in total) learn to fly commercial aircraft in the simulators based in America. The FBI knew it was very dodgy but sat back twiddling their thumbs as usual because they wanted to “grab the whole cell of terrorists” never stopping to think that they were already there.
The rest, as they say, was a totally avoidable massacre of thousands of Americans on the 11th September 2001. It also resulted in twenty years and thousands more lives because the FBI, CIA, NSA and politicians blamed everyone but themselves and the cosy corrupt connection between America and Saudi Arabia never changed (too much oil to buy and the Saudis wanted the latest armaments going which the American Defence Industry was only too willing to supply.
By late October 2001 the SAS and my SBS unit were already in Ghanners, learning to ride horses (heaven knows why when our specialty was marine based) so off we trotted , via the Tora Bora mountains, Musa Qala, and the fortress/prison of Qala-I-Jangi and and the fun stuff. It was my final operational deployment as I retired a couple of years later.
I think what I’m trying to say is that governments should be far more cautious about those it supplies arms to. The future isn’t always unknown as the number of repeated fights should have proven the old adage - those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and yet here we are again. Hopefully the people were supporting in Ukraine won’t be the next bunch to bite us in the arse but you never know.
As it stands their fight is as honourable as it gets, whilst the WTC Twin Towers attack wasn’t as obvious until a few weeks before it happened. Whenever you put advanced weaponry with religious zealots it’s pretty much a guaranteed certainty that they will use it against you especially when it’s Wahhabism that’s their primary driving force and death in their goal, whether it’s death to the Jews/infidels or death for themselves as a (misguided, brainwashed) martyr.
Lost a couple of friends down there and know plenty of other lads who served. I was serving in Northern Ireland at the time. Was posted there a couple of years later. Visited the cemetery and some of the battlefields. Plenty of wreckage left behind and other reminders. The Islanders couldn't do enough for us and were very welcoming. 40 years later I would to go back but it cost too much.
My Dads mate was 2 Para. Lost his best mate to a grenade just before they went hand to hand at Goose Green I think it was. Has PTSD from it all and is a bit of a loner now. Last I saw him I said hello and stopped for a chat and asked how he was doing.
My history teacher back in school faught in this war, he told me so many interesting stories after class. One of which was him swimming to a sinking ship as it sunk to save survivors, he often talked about his time in the war with me, very interesting teacher!
My dad went he came home in one piece
Well....im still proud to be British,our island has changed a great deal in the last few years... bought a lump to my throat watching this.great video
Hey I’m 64 and am watching UA-cam. My generation invented this stuff. We used to use computers to do stuff more than sweeping left etc.
I fought in that war as a para
I was 7 years old in 1982. My father worked at the Filton Rolls Royce factory here in North Bristol. He spent his early career working on the Olympus engines for Concorde, when the Falkland war kicked off he was in charge of a shift making the Pegasus engines for the Harrier, his time was split between Derby and Bristol as the teams ramped up making spares and servicing engines to support our efforts in this conflict. Of course at the time we had no idea how long it would go on for. The Vulcan bombing run was something else that requires more investigation!! Also not many people knew that the Belgrano was the USS Phoenix that actually survived pearl harbour…..
I remember BBC reporter Brian Hanrahan reporting from the aircraft carrier Hermes, after the Harriers went on an early air strike: "I'm not allowed to say how many planes joined the raid, but I counted them all out, and I counted them all back." That phrase became part of the war history.
I was a young teenager at the time, and the Vulcans practiced over moorlands surrounding my village. To see those same aircraft involved in that long mission (missed from this documentary) brought the reality home to me.
Did you know, the French sold the Exocet missiles to Argentina 🤔
You can watch now Sabaton song and history "Back in Control" about this war, and to return to the sabaton travel 😄
I concur - My aunty's 2nd husband fought in the Falklands war
"We are BACK- IN CONTROL!"
The nickname,,"Iron Lady" predates the Falklands War. It was attributed by the Soviet Government in the 1970s, when Thatcher was leader of the opposition.
My mate was in the Royal Marines at this time. They were sent to the Breacon Beacon hills in Wales where they found a moc-up of Port Stanley. They then spent a week training to take the town so they knew the layout before they set off.
The BBC (British Broadcasting Company) gave away the british troops postions and several troops were killed and wounded, by their actions.
It was hard work. I was a young section commander in 2 Para.
I am a direct desent of the first group of Scots who moved to the Falklands from Scotland. There were 3 sons who were each given 500 sheep and matching furniture, one went to Canada another Australia and my one who settled in the Falklands, they ended up in Canada in about 1780. They owned a train company, I have amazing photos of the huge house they had in Black Dimond , I have photos of the family in a Troika in the snow.
I have amazing photos of things like groups of friends, some in WW1 uniforms one is dressed as a Mounty and 2 Argentinian Gauchos who must have travelled with the family. My grandfather was born in Black Dimond.
I had a colleague who served on Goose Green. He never elaborated further and I never asked, other than never forgiving the bbc for announcing it early, but I got plenty of anecdotes about shenanigans he got up to outside of combat. He always had mad respect for the Ghurkas too. He was a brilliantly funny guy. Funnily enough, the landmines had an interesting effect - they preserved the land for animals that were too small to set them off, the most famous being the penguins.
want to know how tuff are the Ghurkas. every para and SAS men is told FFS dont mess with them
I heard that the only reason the Argies surrendered Stanley was because they found out the Ghurkas were coming 😂
Its not for no reason. We fought for the people of the islands. If you were living there who would you want to rescue you from that barbaric regime eh?
I was serving in the British Army. at an operational army Air Corps Squadron in Hong Kong when the Falklands war happened I could not have been any further away after that I msnaged yo avoid bring sent fown yhere on short term stints from a workshop in getmany though I did spend my last 2 yesrs army service in Ulster for my Sins like enjoying my postings in Hong Kong and Germany!
I was serving in the Army at the time but we were a training Regiment on rotation so couldn't go.
But damn I'm still so proud of our boys, but sad at the losses.
I served in the Falklands onboard HMS Cardiff, I was proud to have served.
Winning changed Britain for ever, it was the first win after WW2 and proved UK was not finished and could stand up like in WW2 and enhanced our view of our military.
My older, but young, brother was an AEM(R) in the Fleet Air Arm and called to serve on HMS Broadsword with her Lynx helicopter. It's so long ago, and I was barely a teenager, but I think they were already on exercise in the Med maybe, dropped into Gibraltar, and headed south to Ascension Island and then on to The Falklands. My younger brother and I were forgiven for not always making it to school because we couldn't sleep and were up all night listening to our local radio and their relaying of government info on fleet losses. Once, I think, Broadsword was 'possibly' lost to enemy bombing. We'd listened to the broadcast, but she wasn't. Sure, she'd been hit, but it was just kinetic energy . . the bomb(s) hadn't exploded. But, again if I recall correctly, the Argentine attack made an absolute mess of HMS Brilliant's own Lynx helicopter that had been secured on Broadsword's deck. My writing here possibly doesn't reflect the fear and anxiety that filled us and all the other families who had relatives in the Falkland and South Georgia Islands or deployed to the war. We had some very long nights, often listening to warship 'losses' reports that weren't exactly accurate. My brother took some shrapnel but, physically, he survived. Emotionally and mentally so many struggled afterwards. My brother hated loud noises and anything war-related, particularly sirens and "Hands to all action stations!". We never hated Argentina, in fact I saw incredible courage in the action of their own forces. But I think we all were naturally amazed at their government's obstructions in returning surrendered Argentine nationals to their home country. God bless everyone who had to fight this Argentine military junta/British politically convenient war.