Paradiso, Canto 33 with Dr. Fred Sanders

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  • @texas4197
    @texas4197 2 роки тому +41

    Dr. Sanders did a wonderful job of wrapping up this loooong journey for us. This was a well organized, well constructed, broadly themed, and extremely specific summation of this poem and this poet. And his delivery was so smooth. The listener could tell this was a guy with so much knowledge about this subject that he could reference nearly any portion of the poem or the writings about it, which made this summation masterful. Although I hope he will forgive me if I tell him that for this first time reader, Dante almost convinced me that he didn't have the ability to tell me all he wanted to. I'd started to reverse my opinion in the last few cantos, but I think a rereading may be needed to make that a secure opinion.
    No way can I express how much fun this has been. When my wife suggested we take this 100 day journey through the Divine Comedy together, I thought that was a perfect use of time for two retirees. Now that we are at the end of that journey, I just want to thank each of the "experienced readers" who shared their thoughts and ideas with us by contributing one or more canto explanations. Without your assistance, this experience would have been extremely difficult. After each of the presentations, I understood what I had read at least a little better than before I listened to the talk. And in some cases, the presenter saved me from falling into a dark abyss of misunderstanding that would have had me wandering in my own dark wood for the rest of the poem had their corrective to my thinking not occurred.
    Finally, to the staff in the background who performed supporting duties, whether it was office preparation, running the technology so all this would appear on our computers each day, writing the study questions that accompanied every canto presentation, or taking part in one or more of the extra presentations or discussions about Dante and the Comedia that were offered, thank you. This has been a great success, at least for the two of us! You should be proud of your contribution to such a massive effort!

  • @sarahflynn924
    @sarahflynn924 2 роки тому +28

    We did it! I am not the same person I was at the beginning. Thank you Baylor, thank you so much to us who would never have access to such great teaching. On resurrection Sunday no less. God Bless to all.

    • @Hotel_Chuck
      @Hotel_Chuck 2 роки тому +1

      Amazing it ended on Easter. I suppose that was the plan but am amazed anyway.

  • @tomlabooks3263
    @tomlabooks3263 2 роки тому +23

    Congratulations for concluding this wonderful series with such a great commentary on the ineffability of what Dante has to tell us. Thank you all for the great insights.

  • @tomm5256
    @tomm5256 2 роки тому +21

    I will never forget this incredible experience. Thank you so much to all the contributors. I’m going to feel a real gap in my Monday-Wednesday-Friday routine.

  • @rkymtntina
    @rkymtntina 2 роки тому +17

    "...a glorious, beautiful failure..." That statement also represents how I often felt about my attempts to fully digest and comprehend all that Dante detailed during this journey.🙂 Thank you, Baylor and partnering universities, for all of the wonderful insights presented during this series! Until my daughter invited me to join her in this journey last fall, I had never given thought to reading Dante. Now I'm so happy that I can place the Divine Comedy in my "I've read that" list. It provided much food for thought and discussion, and I will continue to ponder aspects of it in the years to come. Well done and once again, THANK YOU.

  • @allegrasmick4719
    @allegrasmick4719 2 роки тому +12

    Wow. Great ending to our epic journey. How many times will I follow this poets journey again? Thank you Baylor for this magnificent project. It has been a spiritual, artistic, intellectual journey. Thank you for these wonderful scholars, the learning, their insight and their teaching.

  • @PatMcAnn
    @PatMcAnn 2 роки тому +11

    Thank you, Baylor University, for taking on this wonderful project and giving it to the world for free.

    • @xwretchedxyouthx
      @xwretchedxyouthx 2 роки тому +1

      Yes!! Thank you for mentioning this. FREE to us! Quite amazing!

  • @daniellehardy2015
    @daniellehardy2015 2 роки тому +12

    Thank you for taking us on this wonderful journey! I appreciated every minute and every insight shared by each unique voice! You made Dante come to life for me. What a plan to have it finish on this most glorious of days. Alleluia! He is Risen! He is Risen Indeed!

  • @RonCoulter
    @RonCoulter 2 роки тому +14

    This Lent instead of giving something up I took on reading the Commedia.i wouldn't have made without these videos. Thank you. Alleluia! Christ is risen!

    • @PatMcAnn
      @PatMcAnn 2 роки тому +1

      He is risen indeed!

  • @dspill4010
    @dspill4010 2 роки тому +7

    Thank you to all the contributors. This was a great experience.

  • @jodubuisson4275
    @jodubuisson4275 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you so much for a wonderful program. I think I would never have approached the Comedy without the structure, interpretation, and stimulation you provided. And wonderful to know that I was doing this with others all over the world. What a gift!

  • @loisrem2654
    @loisrem2654 2 роки тому +5

    Every time I reach the end of the Commedia, I need a few days to take it all in. Then, I want to start over again at the beginning, knowing I will notice and learn so much more for having followed the entire path. Surely there is a special place in Paradise for Dante.

  • @mariebelcredi2206
    @mariebelcredi2206 2 роки тому +5

    Wow!! I've just gone through a psychedelic trip with Dante . Dante has the prescience 700 years ago to understand that light is the vehicle that leads us to investigate the physics of relativity and quantum theory today. Thank you Baylor and all the speakers who have introduced us to this genius. I just wish I could have read it in its original Italian. Like one of the commenters, I too feel like a different person after undertaking this amazing journey through Inferno, Purgatorio and now Paradiso.

  • @johndunham9236
    @johndunham9236 2 роки тому +7

    Grand teachers have the greatest and saddest task of ending a grand project of learning. Dante leaves us in the Vision, and Dr. Sanders leaves us with proper understanding of the end of this Divina Commedia. A joyful, THANK YOU, to both! Dr. Sanders, no other beloved Torrey prof could be perfectly suited to take on the end of the end.
    Who am I to comment on this Canto?
    Bernard's prayer is incredible. This is the essence of what intercessory prayer must be at these final moments in the Commedia. The ultimate guide is the Holy Theotokos herself. What other beauty could draw the Pilgrim finally to the Vision of Him, the One, the All? She turns her eyes of mercy upon those who ask for their Mother's favor, and she smiles and turns her eyes (more perfect than even Beatrice's) upon her Son, of whom she is also the daughter. She is the perfect guide that asks not to be looked upon but seen through.
    Mary the Dawn, Christ the Perfect Day;
    Mary the Gate, Christ the Heav’nly Way!
    The Pilgrim is finally full and complete at this perfect end. Grace is overbrimming and he can finally SEE. How long have we waited? How long have we sought to see his vision cleared? The mist is melted away by his Mother and the Light she magnifies. This Light is all that truly matters. At the full sight of the Vision of God, his will is perfected and will NEVER EVER leave. This is key to Dante's philosophy, and it is how the free will problem can be solved. His intellect perceives the Good perfectly and fully. The intellect will never turn away from this vision. Freedom and perfection bound together. Harmony. Knowledge of the Knowing and the Known.
    Three Rings. Three Colors. Two Rainbows, One Fire proceeding from both. ONE MEASURE. In the center, the figure of a Man. Heaven is gazing upon the Trinitarian exchange through the Resurrected Christ. He really is there. He is with the Father in the unity of the Holy Spirit. World without end, Amen.
    Seeing this, the Pilgrim is perfectly ordered with a will that will never turn against Goodness, Truth, and Beauty. Now, he turns in harmony with God, as do the celestial bodies.
    "Here ceased the powers of my high fantasy.
    Already were all my will and my desires
    turned - as a wheel in equal balance - by
    The Love that moves the sun and the other stars."
    Thus ends the greatest literary work of Christian Civilization. I sense that this is the beginning of a lifelong love of Dante Alighieri and his sacra poema, la Divina Commedia. The journey starts here at the end, and one will never stop the Pilgrim's journey. Indeed, I can never stop until I end where this poem ends:
    A Pilgrim finally in Glory. A Pilgrim finally Home.
    A sincere thank you to all the project creators and teachers along the way. This is the stuff of life!
    Ora et labora!

    • @sarahflynn924
      @sarahflynn924 2 роки тому

      Beautifully articulated

    • @elizabetha.9808
      @elizabetha.9808 2 роки тому

      How I have enjoyed reading your commentaries, John. You are truly a kindred spirit. A blessed Eastertide to you and your family!

    • @johndunham9236
      @johndunham9236 2 роки тому +1

      @@elizabetha.9808 Thank you, Elizabeth. I hope more lives are shaped profoundly. Blessed Eastertide to you and your family!

  • @nerissasmith7963
    @nerissasmith7963 2 роки тому +3

    What a journey! My heart and imagination are full of the beauty and love of our God. Thank you Dante for this epic and thank you Baylor for offering us passage and guidance through it all!

  • @elizabetha.9808
    @elizabetha.9808 2 роки тому +4

    Many thanks to Baylor Honors College and your affiliates for this impactful journey through the Divine Comedy. It’s truly been a life changing experience. A blessed Easter to all!

  • @treborketorm
    @treborketorm 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you Dr. Sanders for a great ending to a great series. Thanks also to Dante Alighieri for his efforts of 700 years ago that have changed the lives of so many people since then including my own.

  • @dustinsavage2832
    @dustinsavage2832 2 роки тому +5

    Made it! Thank you so much for being a wonderful guide on this journey. This is an invaluable resource I know I’ll be returning to.
    Have a blessed Easter! He is risen!

  • @torifreeman993
    @torifreeman993 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you Baylor and all who participated in putting this project together. It is difficult to put into words what this journey has meant to me.

  • @marybethmurray5531
    @marybethmurray5531 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you, Baylor, for providing us with the opportunity to join Dante on his journey.
    Your presenters were extraordinary in guiding us readers through Dante's pilgrimage. And as readers, we found ourselves, families and friends, discussing and thinking about eternal truths. A reminder that we need each other to encourage and guide us through our separate journeys together.
    Bravo!

  • @pilarmeola3785
    @pilarmeola3785 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you to all the speakers who provided insight to this epic poem. Alleluia Christ Had Risen Indeed!

  • @xwretchedxyouthx
    @xwretchedxyouthx 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you to all the organizers, presenters, and staff involved for such an incredible experience. I would have never managed the entire Comedy on my own, especially this final third! You all are the best! Happy Easter!

  • @brendantannam499
    @brendantannam499 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you for a wonderful conclusion to a wonderful lecture series about a wonderful poem. I really enjoyed how you kept your focus, as Dante did, on the individual's spiritual progress, working to find one's proper place in the scheme of things and being all the happier for it.

  • @rickreed2180
    @rickreed2180 2 роки тому +2

    As I have watched each of the videos in this project, I have often thought of how valuable they would have been to me as a teacher. In my 40-year career teaching high school English, I believe I taught Inferno at least thirty times. Each time, I discovered something new. Yet, in watching these videos, I have learned more than in I did in all those years. A genuinely great book always has something to teach us we have not seen before. I wish I had the eloquence to express how deeply this series has touched my life, how much it has inspired me to continue reading Dante. I offer a simple thank-you to every individual and every school involved in this admirable project.

  • @bej5000
    @bej5000 2 роки тому +5

    I was wondering who would do the final summation lecture and what the tone would be! This was an interesting wrap up, to choose to discuss in part the impossibiity of adequate communication. I've enjoyed the variety of presenters and the different approaches taken by them to the cantos they were charged with discussing. All were superb, although I had some mild disagreements with some approaches. I thought in this delivery the notion of "leaves of truth" being scattered throughout the universe was intriguing. It is with a bit of sadness that I see this great joint adventure among scholars and learners come to a close.

  • @LizVanSavage
    @LizVanSavage 2 роки тому +4

    Happy Easter!

  • @elizabethbrink3761
    @elizabethbrink3761 2 роки тому +4

    A splendid finish! Thank you Dr. Sanders! This has been such a good journey. I'm so thankful to everyone who participated in creating this project. It has been a gift, and I know will continue to be so in my future mind and heart.

  • @sofiaalgiz2820
    @sofiaalgiz2820 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you all!!! I could not have ever made such a journey without this Blessed program. Everyone needs to enjoy and study this rich group of teachers, experts. Thanks so much

  • @lorimorrison6539
    @lorimorrison6539 2 роки тому +2

    Wow!!! What a beautiful clearness to present this to us! I so love that last line, that Love moves this our world, and all the stars. Before I'd read any of Dante I heard that line and was stunned in a kind of awe. So beautiful! Thank you! Not a mean court with punishment which has been too overly stressed in my own background, but Love. Thank you!!!

  • @MrMrEsquire
    @MrMrEsquire 2 роки тому +3

    HE IS RISEN!

  • @nancyhartsock231
    @nancyhartsock231 2 роки тому

    Thank you SO much for your guidance (as our Virgil, Beatrice, and Bernard) through this magnificent thought-provoking journey.

  • @kevinthomasmarincowitz5249
    @kevinthomasmarincowitz5249 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for guiding me on this most wonderful and enlightening pilgrimage. Happy Easter!

  • @xieouyang1341
    @xieouyang1341 2 роки тому

    A terrific finale to this wonderful trip of discovery, understanding, and love that you all have take us!
    Many thanks to all presenters.

  • @majorwarner8593
    @majorwarner8593 2 роки тому +1

    I knew at the start of this journey that much might be above my head as it were. Now at the end of Dante's pilgrimage I am filled with gratitude to all those involved in this project; Dante and his guides as well. And though now I'm inclined to begin again, I must admit, though I still have many questions, my eyes have bit lifted a bit.

  • @jamesbratager7562
    @jamesbratager7562 2 роки тому

    what an absolutely awesome journey....................thank you so much to the responsible parties!!

  • @kathleenhouf3299
    @kathleenhouf3299 2 роки тому

    I can only add my sincere thanks, as others have expressed so eloquently. I have tried many times, over the years, to read Dante and have failed...until now. Thank you so much for guiding me on this journey through the Divine Comedy. I could not have done it without you!

  • @josephinebennett8509
    @josephinebennett8509 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you all who created this marvellous project. I could never have read the entire Comedia without these wonderful commentaries which enlightened my reading, strengthened my faith and gave me amazing insights into our universe and its place in God's creation. Will these commentaries be made available in a more permanent form?

  • @randallpeaslee1779
    @randallpeaslee1779 2 роки тому

    Beautiful! Dr. Sanders, you hit the bull's-eye in wrapping this whole journey up. Thank you & God bless you.

  • @danna9641
    @danna9641 2 роки тому

    I’m finishing a bit behind, but I finished! Thank you to Baylor Honors and all the wonderful commentators, for walking me through this great work. May God bless you all.

  • @janicemiersma9561
    @janicemiersma9561 Рік тому

    Thank you Baylor and all the speakers. I don’t think I could have done it without you. This was my first reading at age 72 and I feel that I have barely scratched the surface.

  • @gayleyee5723
    @gayleyee5723 Рік тому

    I made it to the end ! Thoroughly enjoyed the experience, I am changed like Dante !! Thank you Baylor Honors College.

  • @hopeowsley2572
    @hopeowsley2572 2 роки тому +1

    A wonderful conclusion to this series!

  • @tgold3311
    @tgold3311 2 роки тому +1

    As a non-Catholic, I would likely have dismissed this classic literature , but instead there was much to learn from Dante, especially in Purgatório. Thanks to all who were involved and to Hugh Hewitt who introduced the project on his radio program.

  • @aeoniantanuki9376
    @aeoniantanuki9376 2 роки тому

    Well it took me longer than most to reach the end but reached it I have, what a trip. Speaking of which, I get a psychedelic feeling from this final canto. Entering another realm where the chaos of the world is given order; sight that is clearer than with eyes open on earth, a full manifestation of the self and of all; true knowledge.

  • @susanblackwell1721
    @susanblackwell1721 2 роки тому +1

    I haven't been a commenter before, and this observation is too late to do anyone any good. However, I would not have made it to the end had I not had the proper translation to use. The one-volume edition from John Ciardi (originally published as three separate volumes in the 1950's) was crucial. He gives a brief mise-en-scene at the start of each canto, and provides extensive explanatory notes at the end of each one. I would have thrown in the towel many canti ago without it. Easter blessings to all.

  • @patcamerino5456
    @patcamerino5456 2 роки тому +8

    Canto 33: Bernard, on behalf of Dante, offers an intercessory prayer to Mary, the daughter of her son, for her assistance in allowing the poet to behold the Light of God, without being harmed, having “known” the face of God. Dante’s final desire is to envision the paradox of both-and: daughter/son; mother/virgin; human/divine; beginning/end. We are always in the middle of our life while we journey through life. As T.S. Eliot stated at the conclusion of his poem, Little Gidding: “We shall not cease from exploration/And the end of all our exploring/Will be to arrive where we started/And know the place for the first time. .... And all shall be well and/ All manner of thing shall be well/When the tongues of flames are in-folded/into the crowned knot of fire/And the fire and the rose are one." Even before Bernard’s smiling behest is observed by Dante, the pilgrim turns his eyes towards Mary and then, beyond, to fixate his gaze upon the Divine Light, which he experiences as both “substance and accident,” both matter and form; both mass and energy, but not describable in any detail with mere words. The Divine Light appears as three circles, each having three primary colors, revealing faces, self-smiling on themselves, that remain as incomprehensible as any attempt to “square a circle.” His exalted vision is completed as he is struck by a lightening bolt of divine revelation, and as his will and desire revolve as one with the Love that moves the sun and stars.

    • @sarahflynn924
      @sarahflynn924 2 роки тому +1

      Thank you. An excellent finish. It is hard to come to the end.

    • @patcamerino5456
      @patcamerino5456 2 роки тому +1

      @@sarahflynn924 Perhaps it's also a new start!

  • @PurpleStewStephen
    @PurpleStewStephen Рік тому

    'sup to all the JPCatholic students watching this for class

  • @TheNetatube
    @TheNetatube 4 місяці тому

    thx professor, greetings from Venice, Italy… though that was too boring compared to Benigni and Sermonti