RTR... READY TO REPAIR! My man you hit out the park with this one. Dudes have been having issues with the 3S rigs for about the past 12 months or so. Blown motors, bearings, stripped gears, etc. Lemme find out all this time it was a slipper clutch issue! Appreciate the video brother I will definitely spread the word.... 🙏🏽❤👊🏾😎
I've had to order "Slipper Plate & Hub Set' (AR310946) twice for my K4S (same slipper assembly...except the 4S line takes 4 slipper pads). That LiL piece breaks off very easily. It happens when it's OVER TIGHTENED and it just snaps...You can hear it click when u are trying to tighten down the slipper. Now in your case it wasn't done by you, but snapped during production. But what caused it was initial OVER TIGHTENING. P.S. be very careful using the power tool to tighten that down in the future...IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO SNAP THAT LIL PIECE OFF. GREAT VID!!
Not sure if anyone else pointed this out, but when you switch to the metal spur (like the 4s line) you can add another slipper pad since the metal spur is not as wide as the stock plastic one, 4 total. This will center the spur a little better and it wont be so close to rubbing the mount. UPDATE: I read below others pointing this out and how you figured that out as well.
I have one of these on order coming next Wednesday. If I had heard the noise, I'd put it down to being new. And I've never had to crack open the slipper on any of my other arrma 3s line. So if mine makes that noise at least I now know how to repair..... So thanks Earl for the great detailed video.
I have pre-entirely ordered arrma’s metal spur/slipper assembly, just to have on hand. I’ve had terrible experiences with constant spur stripping on my Big Rock. The slipper covers also tend to get loose and worn over time. Always nice to have these on hand
EARL, I’ve had cars the mesh was so tight. The tires wouldnt move. I also had a outcast out of the box, ESC WAS COMPLETELY UNBOLTED!!!!!! Always do a partial tear down on new cars. Check gear meshes and lubrication. I had an XMAXX with a bent motor shaft out of the box. I could keep going, but you get the idea!
Thanks Earl for finding the issues ! My wife's Vorttek just arrived a few minutes ago as I was watching your video . When she gets off work I'm going to have her watch then decide if she wants to return it . Thanks again for all your videos ! Wish you was close to Globe Arizona so we could go bash !
I would just check the mesh and make sure it’s round on the spur but power it up and see if it makes the funny noise like my unboxing video that will tell you everything 💯💯💯good luck it’s a good rc just has a few bugs to work out 💯💯
I'm bad...I make comments as I watch video, ya know, before I watch the whole thing. First I notice that on My Infraction 3S, when I put my metal spur in, I had to trim off all the extra little ears on my slipper clutch plate to make them sit right in the gear. Gear wasn't machined with those extra slots in if for them. I could also swear mine had only one disc on one side. Okay...roll it...Nice catch! I did visit Horizons site, and looked a he exploded view of my Infraction, and yes, there is only one slipper clutch disc. I have to bust your chops about the little gun shaped tool. It shows it in use on that back page you said you referenced, not sure how you missed that. For setting your slipper clutch while it's in the car, but you've probably figured that out by now. Anyway, again, nice catch! I'm thinking of getting one of these to add to my growing Arma collection. Next you need the Hot racing diff gears and housings! that'll seriously bullet proof your drivetrain, as I THINK the stock ones are plastic (composite) in those. I also don't see a real way to truly properly set the gear mesh. I always used a piece of loose leaf paper between the two gears, but with that cover off, the gear kinda moves around, which makes it impossible to really get a nice mesh. Seems like it'd be a trial and error, do it over a few times ordeal. I do see a video about it in the que..will watch that next for any ideas. Hope you girl has a blast with it!
Normally setting mesh on an Arrma power module is fairly simple. Great trouble shooting. You have so much experience that a manual serves little purpose. Thanks for sharing your find with us. It really helps. 👍👍
Pretty poor for out the box ready to run. Come on arrma, sort it out. And have to say , lovely hands for a mechanic 🤣 mine are worse 😂 Well done getting to the issue and sorting it 👌 top job as always earl.
The tool is their 4-way wrench sortof. For example - it fits right under the lift tabs for the motor assembly. You know it when you try it. Jam it in there and you can save the finger pain trying to lift them AND push the motor assembly formward.
Check motor shaft and I’ve run 6s on these for testing and have yet to strip a plastic spur. But metal I’m sure is better. Also check the diffs. They get the notchy tight spots as well. Great video!
I did check the motor bearings and shaft as no play yet but after a few runs there will be some play and I know this 💯💯that why setting up the plastic spur loose wouldn’t work it would just strip as soon as the bearing gets loose 💯💯💯💯
Your the man! You figured it out! I knew something wasn’t right by the sound of everybody’s videos. I knew my ears weren’t lying to me. And you go ahead and do Arrmas job for them. For those complaining about your hands being dirty, lol, we know real men get their hands dirty. It tells people you actually work on stuff. A mechanics hands are never completely clean. We know that. #Salute
Oh my word... I was struggling to mount the engine part back on the body. Did what you suggested by rolling the car... Voila! Cheers mate, appreciated.
Just bought this vorteks this week, opened it after watching this video and it's making the same damn noise. I'm going to try to return it tomorrow Thanks for the heads up on this
Hey just a question but from the research I've done and info on the arrma forum. Don't you have to add a extra slipper pad if your running metal spur on 3s versions???
Yes I added one to the back side so there is two slipper pads on both sides the video was to long to add that part as most ppl know on a metal spur gear installation you need 4 pads now 💯💯💯
Ok cool just wanted to make sure. I know your very knowledgeable with this stuff and I just burned up a brand new hot racing spur from not doing my research I guess, lol live and learn
That's very disappointing, they all seem to have dropped the ball with quality control 🤔 I agree don't need unnecessary breakages on your daughters rc's. Great detective work😎😁
Thanks for the video Earl. I have the Vorteks , first day with it today. I also have the had the V3 Big Rock since February. I'm not noticing the Vorteks making the noise you are describing, do you mean the 'clicking' noise that people are commenting on or something different? My Vorteks sounds quite different to my Big rock when they are running, my BR is louder for sure. I haven't checked the mesh in the Vorteks yet but will before it's next run. Thanks again for taking the time to post the video.
Going to add a quick edit - I watched your unboxing and quick run and there it was, the clicking sound. My Vorteks doesn't make that sound, I videoed it today and went and had a listen and it runs a lot quieter than your daughters before you fixed it. Seems like it's a quality control issue. They are made in China after all.
My son's brushed Typhon motor blew the back plate off. Luckily it was < $20 for the new motor, but I say this because things can come defective right from the box.
@@earlmoorhead5555 I noticed this sound at first then watched jaytee's video and even said in a message it was the same. He told me he had checked the mesh so was driving it just thinking ok that's how they sound but after he posted about the problem I thought ok have I done damage but then CCRC said it was a heat issue so I've been trying to keep it cool and have found its not possible. How much run time watching temps but still getting hot before moter damage?
Great video bro, as always. All these rc companies so worried about pushing out new product to compete with the others it seems durability/reliability fall by the way side with some stuff. Just bought a brand new Xmaxx and the servo died 2nd run out, maybe 15mins in. Smh. Called Traxxas and I have to send them the servo to "investigate" that's bs imo. Same with Arrma and Corally they all have weaknesses that could, at least imo, be easily fixed with some more attention to detail instead of just pushing product out the quickest. Instead it's just "oh buy V2, V3, V4 when they come out, no build it right the 1st time!! Regarding your nails, that was hilarious....who cares?! Dirty Hands, Clean Money! 💯💯👊🏻✌🏻
Well Earl, I suppose that once in a while they give us lemons,but you took it and made some lemonade, OH YA! Now if someone else, like your daughter had this problem, they wouldn't have been able to figure it out, and would've drove it completely to death. Nice catch Earl.. KEEP ON BASHING, OR SPEEDING! FROM BARRIE ONTARIO CANADA PS, LOL, READY TO WORK ON RC .
Earl, I had the same problem with my slipper assembly. I was tightening down the screw in the slipper and I cranked on it to hard. I heard a pop and that's what happened. The brass piece snapped right off . It was my fault when it happened to me. But yours is BS! That's not cool with a brand new car. Horizon should make that right! At least I know I'm not the only one who had this problem! Good video bro!
We never adjusted it intill I was looking for the noise and added the metal gear and couldn’t understand why the slipper was not getting tight pulling thru Rc guy garage is now having about the same noise wonder what his issue is 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Absolutely, like I said it's bullshit yours was untouched. I hope they take care of you on it! I don't even use that spring in my 3s slippers. And I can't tell a difference. So glad to hear you show that. Not a spring, but a spacer! Lol! Very well done video Earl!
Hay, post a video of your rc collection. I have a friend who doesn't believe me when I told him how many cars you have! I think it be really cool to see!
How did you solve the compressed spring issue? I broke the brass piece on mine by tightening the effin thing down so much that the spring pushed the brass piece off.
My son had one didn't like the motor/drive shaft setup felt lose sent back got him a slash 4x4 sct been 2 years very capable traxxas servos are weak adding a savox good to go... like you videos...
Interesting! That took some work to figure that one out. Surprised me! fortunately, mine has been solid so far. Question: what battery are you running in yours?
The metal gear needs four slipper pads! It’s what the 4s has stock with the metal gear! On the tool, the ‘things’ are used to unscrew the shocks. It keys into the shock body where the shaft enters. That’s how you open the shocks. It’s too bad the brass peace came out; the fourth pad like the 4s line would stop the ‘crush’ as you tighten the slipper. I think it pulled the brass piece out as you tightened onto the metal gear (it is thinner than the plastic spur). Great job non the less. Personally; the dirty hands rock! None of this girly glove wearing stuff!
Thank you dude, my exact problem, I have the exact same noise! I ran about 3 packs through on grass, can you give me the part #’s for what we need to get?
I saw video on this vortex that they were switching to the metal gear and that gear is from a 4S version I believe. So I believe it's supposed to have an extra slipper pad than the 3s version. I could be completely wrong though lol. Just trying to watch all the videos I can on it I got one in layaway hopefully that wasn't a mistake lmao
@@earlmoorhead5555 oh nice to know. I'm learning lol. Trying to soak up everything I can. Iv been messing with fpv for a while now. But this is completely different. Never could afford it till now. Well.. it's in layaway but still
I think I always am having the same issue. I haven't ran mine a bit more then that but it made and aweful lot of noise. I took it about and also realized the metal motor plate is bent.
So Im curious do I need an extra slipper pad with the metal spur I'm seeing mixed reviews and I just got my son a vorteks and am going to change that plastic spur out asap?
Well I'm on my 2nd vortex the 1st one came with no bearing on the outside hub all 4 corners mesh was tight it Maxx out at 38 on my only battery avc freaked out it crashed I then got a replacement one that's same color as yours and it's mesh was tight and I going to check mine because I had same when I checked my mesh I had a spot like yours arrma needs to do more QC it's bad
I advice u to still buy it... theres. Nothing wrong with the vortex.. a lot of RC politics in the game... u dint expect to bash a toy and nothing gets broken. So far so good the quality control on the vortex is good.. IF u bash a real car, u definitely going to need a mechanic to fix it and get parts...
@@1zedlav the way the rustlers is like a slash 4x4 the slipper clutch motor set up modular like traxxas does and it’s longer the hoss matches up real close and is traxxas neediest release so arrma would answer with an rc the rustler is old now compared to a hoss 👍👍👍
My neighbors bought two of these and I recently bought two myself threw horizon hobby with their easy pay setup. And mine will be here Monday. But my neighbor blew his motor trying to keep up with my Arrma Granite mega v3 big block brushless conversion. Yeah the vorteks is fast but it isn't 4076 2200kv on a 23T in the granite fast lol. I felt bad for em though he just legitimately got it when this happened. The bearing in his motor blew out doing between 60 n 63mph we was drag racing n I was a good 10foot ahead of em n pulling away and all of a sudden his vorteks slowed down to around a stock Granite mega around 30 35 ish max so he turned it around n brought it back n I done the same n I even beat him back to us n my Granite was way out there past his lol. So something was definitely wrong. It didn't smell like burning wires or anything the esc was cool the motor was hot so he let it cool down n pulled out his outcast 4s n his ol ladies vorteks and we drove around ect n then he used his ol ladies vorteks n wanted to race because hers already had the big speed pinion in it.. so I laughed n said sure let's.do it lol. N I beat him again lol and we done a few more pulls and his ol ladies done the same thing!!! Except hers made a loud bang but still ran just much slower n then it stopped n went stopped n went so we put them on the table and he pulled one apart n I pulled his 2nd one apart to see what's up.. and the bearings in both motors blew apart...... So two destroyed motors and I heard about other vorteks motors giving out when stressed. and I felt bad because he was trying to beat my built up Granite which is insanely fast. It ran a 78.3mph this morning I'm going for 100 mph because I don't think there is a Arrma Granite mega v3 and let alone any Granite to touch 100 mph yet.. I think there is a 100 mph big rock n senton but no Granite yet. Thing is at 70+ the granite isnt to stable... So it's getting typhon arms or a outcast 4s arms tie rods shocks to widen it n give it more strength or I'll see if 6s outcast parts will fit it... I know the outcast 4s parts will because the outcast 4s is actually a Arrma Granite 110% same chassis ect just beefed up a little. So I wanna get her a lil more stable before I drop 6s lipos in it.. Im running it on 3s ovonics and golbat champion 3s lipos I got the big Ovonic 4s golbat 4s and spectrum 3 , 4 , 6 s lipos. I got a max 6 esc in it now I pulled the hobbywing Quicrun BL 120 out which btw is a bullet proof esc it says 3s but it can most definitely take 4s no probs at all. I had a 5200mah 80c and a 8000mah 100c 4s in it and it stays cool. It's a powerful esc for cheap lol. It feed my 4076 2200kv with ease and also my 4076 2000kv and also my castle 1717y which with the castle 1717 it did get a lil warm. But I believe the 1717 will be the new motor for the new esc on 6s for it.. and as for his vorteks's I gave him my spare outcast 4s 3668 motor and installed it and he had a 3660 3300kv I believe spektrum as well he dropped in it until horizon sends his replacement motors.
Mine broke because I over tightened the slipper during maintenance. Maybe yours was over tightened at the factory. I've seen others reviewing this car say their slipper was locked down. They are supposed to be 1.5 turns out.
@@earlmoorhead5555 if ya look closely, you'll see that the brass bushing is just pressed on to the aluminum slipper plate. The inside of the brass "cap" is actually a very thin part of the slipper plate that broke off. While it's thin, it seems to work just fine as long as it's not cranked on too hard. Hopefully it's the last time you'll have this problem... I was tightening it down, felt it "pop", then the entire slipper just fell apart. It sucks that the guy at the factory threw it together after it broke. My slipper was set perfectly, from the factory. So it's not every truck, maybe just 1 bad assembler.
Thanks man, great video. This is what I’m looking for when I’ll have my rustler 4x4 brushed. Get my hands dirty while upgrading it 😂 Hope I can have some advice from you.
Yeaaaaaa, my motor is fried on mine. My spur is a little shredded as well. I didn’t think anything of it. Like you said, meh it’ll take some time to wear in and seat. 5 batteries later the motor seized and the spur is shredded. Opened a claim with horizon now for the motor, and might just get a slipper and spur assembly from another model. My first Arrma, and my first bad experience with something like this that wasn’t my fault 😂😂
Yes or a good quality slipper like traxxas uses adding the metal spur it’s hard to find the added slipper pad you need to add on should have a notation with the spur gear 💯💯💯
Earl seems like this is Arrma mo release product fix later maybe. Thanks for saving me $375. People really comment on the dirty nails, funny, funny. Thanks again
Hi earl. Great video on that. Good work on finding out the issue. Hopefully mine won't have that problem. Still waiting for the street release lol. Yeah arrma 2 year warranty so don't waste money on parts well only upgrades of course. Enjoy it brother. That thing is fast so be careful with it.
Earl great find there, any idea what makes that piece shear off ? Is it in the factory assembly or when the truck is first run. Also how will this part not fail again ? Great video man.
All great questions my other Platform from arrma are the same and I haven’t had this failure before I believe it’s either a bad batch an assembly problem or something of this nature 👍👍💯💯💯
I think its when not centered and tighten down just piece brass pressed into aluminum, I been down this road 2 hours using diagram and another assy, I bought one off jennys and it was defective , I wish they make upgrade one I may try nut bolt in together just make a locker how much that thing really working like a clutch uk , I hear all votex clicking through yt but not sure thats noise u guys mean .
haven't watched it yet. haven't read comments. i'm thinking it's bearings already in my head. every 3S FIRRMA motor i have had so far was bearing fail after 3-5 packs
@@earlmoorhead5555 did you have a video on the wheel falling off? I am looking for some info. After 10 min the wheel came out the axle. wheel is on the axle. Not to happy about it.
Rc guy garage has a video on the big rock doing that on a front wheel but the VORTEKS I haven’t had that issue yet but we know it will as the platforms the same just shorter
I know he added hot racing front hubs to correct it but it turned out they caused more damage later than it was worth so he went back to stock front hub ( bearing carrier) to make it stop braking other parts
The aluminum slipper plate broke! That brass part just goes over it and gets pressed on. I had a replacement slipper plate come bent out of shape and useless! Amain replaced it no problem. Just sucks! The other problem is the bearing on the shaft side of the motor!!! Just a matter of time? Bearing replacement.
Earl dose it again. That would have taken arma at least a week to figure out. To many ppl get involved sometimes in corporate America lol. Good job great video
Here we go another ready to work on..🤣👍🏼 Good job man. Now go get that medi pedi!😉 Oh and a lot of Jaytee cars whirn or make a whirring noise. Could be his audio amplifying the gear noise. Have you noticed? I love you guys video by the way.
Unfortunately lemons occur in the rc hobby you seemed to have got one, I panicked and cracked mine open and everything is fine. Im ten packs in so far no issues.
So every vortex who makes that weird sound is because at the factory they overtightened the screw and snaped that aluminium hub?? I was wondering why it was making funny noises when this power system and clutch is used on every 3-4s line but only the vortex was doing it
I’m not sure as I’ve only looked at one not sure but the gear not being round causes the noise my case it didn’t sit flat so it moved in an oval pattern 💯💯💯
I have the same issue on my new Big Rock which I bought end of March in The Netherlands. But it has a new power unit after the original one blew its bearings. Could be a power unit from the same batch as all the new Vorteks models.
@@earlmoorhead5555 It rocks! Non of this girly wearing glove stuff! Nothing wrong with a bit of grit under the nails! We wouldn’t be here today if it wasn’t for the grit under nails of our grandparents!
It’s weird how many complaint videos I have seen on the vorteks and never see any on the typhon or other 3s models. Was considered this model but maybe I should stay away.
14:06 LOL got me dyin...! you will go viral bro you have too much knowledge not to. It all makes sense in your head and you can describe it. Me, it just stays in my head =) other than that issue it seems to be a good looking truck. BTW that tool is perfect for tatt gun...! thanks bro
Good work! Wouldn't be an Arrma if it doesn't have some inherent issue with it. Granite v2 was a disaster - Laggy receiver, crap servo, leaking shocks. Arrma is overrated as hell.
Recall time probably horizon hobby fault. I’m still waiting for a brand center diff for my brand new Arrma Infraction V2 still in box with diff oil everywhere and I called them they said it’s on backorder??!!
@@moereefer Not sure what that means🤷.all rc's have issues. Just make it better. 👍Or quit now. It's really minor and will help you to work on it yourself. ✌️
You definitely should be called “Yoda” my friend..... I can’t tell you how much I’ve learned from your videos E....... always Gr8 content....!! ☮️~~I’m out👍🏻😎
😂 yessir! Hey Id take it in stride though I’ve had factory defects on my e revo 2.0 as well but after I sorted it out the things a beast. Full speed skatepark bashing with no issues in 20+ packs
My good friend got one an out the box issues first the left front tire was no where near straight then had the binding issue fixed that for him later that day claimed the motor shifted an chewed spur gear probably has this issue in this video as well an he broke an arm I sure there’s more he hasn’t told me
RTR... READY TO REPAIR! My man you hit out the park with this one. Dudes have been having issues with the 3S rigs for about the past 12 months or so. Blown motors, bearings, stripped gears, etc. Lemme find out all this time it was a slipper clutch issue! Appreciate the video brother I will definitely spread the word.... 🙏🏽❤👊🏾😎
Thanks 🙏
I've had to order "Slipper Plate & Hub Set' (AR310946) twice for my K4S (same slipper assembly...except the 4S line takes 4 slipper pads). That LiL piece breaks off very easily. It happens when it's OVER TIGHTENED and it just snaps...You can hear it click when u are trying to tighten down the slipper. Now in your case it wasn't done by you, but snapped during production. But what caused it was initial OVER TIGHTENING. P.S. be very careful using the power tool to tighten that down in the future...IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO SNAP THAT LIL PIECE OFF. GREAT VID!!
Not sure if anyone else pointed this out, but when you switch to the metal spur (like the 4s line) you can add another slipper pad since the metal spur is not as wide as the stock plastic one, 4 total. This will center the spur a little better and it wont be so close to rubbing the mount. UPDATE: I read below others pointing this out and how you figured that out as well.
I have one of these on order coming next Wednesday. If I had heard the noise, I'd put it down to being new. And I've never had to crack open the slipper on any of my other arrma 3s line. So if mine makes that noise at least I now know how to repair..... So thanks Earl for the great detailed video.
I have pre-entirely ordered arrma’s metal spur/slipper assembly, just to have on hand. I’ve had terrible experiences with constant spur stripping on my Big Rock. The slipper covers also tend to get loose and worn over time. Always nice to have these on hand
You may have a bent motor mount if your spur keeps stripping
EARL, I’ve had cars the mesh was so tight. The tires wouldnt move. I also had a outcast out of the box, ESC WAS COMPLETELY UNBOLTED!!!!!! Always do a partial tear down on new cars. Check gear meshes and lubrication. I had an XMAXX with a bent motor shaft out of the box. I could keep going, but you get the idea!
This should not be as much money ad you pay .you got to take it apart before you run .Thats bull qc arent doing their jobs.cost me 60 bucks.
Thanks Earl for finding the issues ! My wife's Vorttek just arrived a few minutes ago as I was watching your video . When she gets off work I'm going to have her watch then decide if she wants to return it . Thanks again for all your videos ! Wish you was close to Globe Arizona so we could go bash !
I would just check the mesh and make sure it’s round on the spur but power it up and see if it makes the funny noise like my unboxing video that will tell you everything 💯💯💯good luck it’s a good rc just has a few bugs to work out 💯💯
I'm bad...I make comments as I watch video, ya know, before I watch the whole thing. First I notice that on My Infraction 3S, when I put my metal spur in, I had to trim off all the extra little ears on my slipper clutch plate to make them sit right in the gear. Gear wasn't machined with those extra slots in if for them. I could also swear mine had only one disc on one side. Okay...roll it...Nice catch! I did visit Horizons site, and looked a he exploded view of my Infraction, and yes, there is only one slipper clutch disc.
I have to bust your chops about the little gun shaped tool. It shows it in use on that back page you said you referenced, not sure how you missed that. For setting your slipper clutch while it's in the car, but you've probably figured that out by now. Anyway, again, nice catch! I'm thinking of getting one of these to add to my growing Arma collection. Next you need the Hot racing diff gears and housings! that'll seriously bullet proof your drivetrain, as I THINK the stock ones are plastic (composite) in those.
I also don't see a real way to truly properly set the gear mesh. I always used a piece of loose leaf paper between the two gears, but with that cover off, the gear kinda moves around, which makes it impossible to really get a nice mesh. Seems like it'd be a trial and error, do it over a few times ordeal. I do see a video about it in the que..will watch that next for any ideas.
Hope you girl has a blast with it!
Normally setting mesh on an Arrma power module is fairly simple. Great trouble shooting. You have so much experience that a manual serves little purpose. Thanks for sharing your find with us. It really helps. 👍👍
Pretty poor for out the box ready to run. Come on arrma, sort it out.
And have to say , lovely hands for a mechanic 🤣 mine are worse 😂
Well done getting to the issue and sorting it 👌 top job as always earl.
The tool is their 4-way wrench sortof. For example - it fits right under the lift tabs for the motor assembly. You know it when you try it. Jam it in there and you can save the finger pain trying to lift them AND push the motor assembly formward.
Another great educational video, glad you got it sorted. You will have one happy young Lady.
I’m sure she’ll love it 😍💯💯🔥🔥
WOW. Really got me second guessing upgrading to this from a mini e-revo .
Don’t let this scare ya. I’ve had my Vorteks for 4 months now Skatepark almost daily and not a single break
Ever since arrma went to horizon hobby the quality control went right down
Check motor shaft and I’ve run 6s on these for testing and have yet to strip a plastic spur. But metal I’m sure is better. Also check the diffs. They get the notchy tight spots as well. Great video!
I did check the motor bearings and shaft as no play yet but after a few runs there will be some play and I know this 💯💯that why setting up the plastic spur loose wouldn’t work it would just strip as soon as the bearing gets loose 💯💯💯💯
Your the man! You figured it out! I knew something wasn’t right by the sound of everybody’s videos. I knew my ears weren’t lying to me. And you go ahead and do Arrmas job for them. For those complaining about your hands being dirty, lol, we know real men get their hands dirty. It tells people you actually work on stuff. A mechanics hands are never completely clean. We know that. #Salute
Thanks 🙏
Oh my word... I was struggling to mount the engine part back on the body. Did what you suggested by rolling the car... Voila! Cheers mate, appreciated.
Thanks 🙏
Just bought this vorteks this week, opened it after watching this video and it's making the same damn noise.
I'm going to try to return it tomorrow
Thanks for the heads up on this
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It sounds the same when you rolled it at the start and at the end of the video? Like a grinding noise?
Hey just a question but from the research I've done and info on the arrma forum. Don't you have to add a extra slipper pad if your running metal spur on 3s versions???
Yes I added one to the back side so there is two slipper pads on both sides the video was to long to add that part as most ppl know on a metal spur gear installation you need 4 pads now 💯💯💯
Ok cool just wanted to make sure. I know your very knowledgeable with this stuff and I just burned up a brand new hot racing spur from not doing my research I guess, lol live and learn
Great video. Not a fan of the vorteks but a huge fan of your channel. So catching up all the older vids I missed 👍 givin you more watchtime
Thanks
Thanks again earl having the same problem. You but it in its place. Thx for the 2 hr you saved me.
Thanks 🙏
That's very disappointing, they all seem to have dropped the ball with quality control 🤔 I agree don't need unnecessary breakages on your daughters rc's. Great detective work😎😁
Had me stunned for a few hours 😜😜💯💯💯
Thanks for the video Earl. I have the Vorteks , first day with it today. I also have the had the V3 Big Rock since February. I'm not noticing the Vorteks making the noise you are describing, do you mean the 'clicking' noise that people are commenting on or something different? My Vorteks sounds quite different to my Big rock when they are running, my BR is louder for sure. I haven't checked the mesh in the Vorteks yet but will before it's next run. Thanks again for taking the time to post the video.
Going to add a quick edit - I watched your unboxing and quick run and there it was, the clicking sound. My Vorteks doesn't make that sound, I videoed it today and went and had a listen and it runs a lot quieter than your daughters before you fixed it. Seems like it's a quality control issue. They are made in China after all.
My son's brushed Typhon motor blew the back plate off. Luckily it was < $20 for the new motor, but I say this because things can come defective right from the box.
Thanks. Really helpful. Mine arrives this week and I’ll be checking this.
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Good find. A lot of people are saying that the vorteks sounds different or louder than the other 3s cars. I wonder if this might be a common issue?
I believe so the spur gears are tight and slipper clutch might all be over tighten causing issues 💯💯
@@earlmoorhead5555 I noticed this sound at first then watched jaytee's video and even said in a message it was the same. He told me he had checked the mesh so was driving it just thinking ok that's how they sound but after he posted about the problem I thought ok have I done damage but then CCRC said it was a heat issue so I've been trying to keep it cool and have found its not possible. How much run time watching temps but still getting hot before moter damage?
At 200 degrees it starts to damage a motor 💯💯
Great video bro, as always. All these rc companies so worried about pushing out new product to compete with the others it seems durability/reliability fall by the way side with some stuff. Just bought a brand new Xmaxx and the servo died 2nd run out, maybe 15mins in. Smh. Called Traxxas and I have to send them the servo to "investigate" that's bs imo.
Same with Arrma and Corally they all have weaknesses that could, at least imo, be easily fixed with some more attention to detail instead of just pushing product out the quickest. Instead it's just "oh buy V2, V3, V4 when they come out, no build it right the 1st time!!
Regarding your nails, that was hilarious....who cares?! Dirty Hands, Clean Money! 💯💯👊🏻✌🏻
Thanks dirty working hands 🤛🤛👍👍
Well Earl, I suppose that once in a while they give us lemons,but you took it and made some lemonade, OH YA! Now if someone else, like your daughter had this problem, they wouldn't have been able to figure it out, and would've drove it completely to death. Nice catch Earl..
KEEP ON BASHING, OR SPEEDING! FROM BARRIE ONTARIO CANADA
PS, LOL, READY TO WORK ON RC .
Thanks 🙏
Ottawa valley ON CA here! Keep on bashing friends!
Earl, I had the same problem with my slipper assembly. I was tightening down the screw in the slipper and I cranked on it to hard. I heard a pop and that's what happened. The brass piece snapped right off . It was my fault when it happened to me. But yours is BS! That's not cool with a brand new car. Horizon should make that right! At least I know I'm not the only one who had this problem! Good video bro!
We never adjusted it intill I was looking for the noise and added the metal gear and couldn’t understand why the slipper was not getting tight pulling thru Rc guy garage is now having about the same noise wonder what his issue is 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Absolutely, like I said it's bullshit yours was untouched. I hope they take care of you on it! I don't even use that spring in my 3s slippers. And I can't tell a difference. So glad to hear you show that. Not a spring, but a spacer! Lol! Very well done video Earl!
Yes they sent a new slipper clutch my hobby shop replaced it the next day so I didn’t have to call horizon 🔥👍👍
Hay, post a video of your rc collection. I have a friend who doesn't believe me when I told him how many cars you have! I think it be really cool to see!
I have one from 2years ago it a lot to drag out over a 100 of them and put them back but in January I’ll be doing it again
How did you solve the compressed spring issue? I broke the brass piece on mine by tightening the effin thing down so much that the spring pushed the brass piece off.
I added a washer and replaced the brass piece with a warranty one from my hobby shop 👍👍
My son had one didn't like the motor/drive shaft setup felt lose sent back got him a slash 4x4 sct been 2 years very capable traxxas servos are weak adding a savox good to go... like you videos...
The steel gear uses one extra pad because the gear is thinner than the plastic one
Yep I agree as I added 4 disc two on each side but that the metal upgrade normal issue 💯💯
Glad you found the issue. This could help a lot of people out 👍
Interesting! That took some work to figure that one out. Surprised me!
fortunately, mine has been solid so far.
Question: what battery are you running in yours?
Tons of videos 📹 today !!👍 luv them.
Glad you found the issue. Now i will check mine. Thx for the vid.
Thanks 🙏
Just got my New Vortek and it doesn't sound the best, ha. I'll check out the spur and pinion. Thanks Earl. Great job buddy. Thanks for sharing. John
The metal gear needs four slipper pads! It’s what the 4s has stock with the metal gear! On the tool, the ‘things’ are used to unscrew the shocks. It keys into the shock body where the shaft enters. That’s how you open the shocks. It’s too bad the brass peace came out; the fourth pad like the 4s line would stop the ‘crush’ as you tighten the slipper. I think it pulled the brass piece out as you tightened onto the metal gear (it is thinner than the plastic spur). Great job non the less. Personally; the dirty hands rock! None of this girly glove wearing stuff!
Yes I explain that in the running video as I put 4 in it I figured everyone know already 💯💯💯
Thank you dude, my exact problem, I have the exact same noise! I ran about 3 packs through on grass, can you give me the part #’s for what we need to get?
I saw video on this vortex that they were switching to the metal gear and that gear is from a 4S version I believe. So I believe it's supposed to have an extra slipper pad than the 3s version. I could be completely wrong though lol. Just trying to watch all the videos I can on it I got one in layaway hopefully that wasn't a mistake lmao
Yes that true you can add a pads like I show in several videos or not depending on how you run your rc car 👍👍
@@earlmoorhead5555 oh nice to know. I'm learning lol. Trying to soak up everything I can. Iv been messing with fpv for a while now. But this is completely different. Never could afford it till now. Well.. it's in layaway but still
I think I always am having the same issue. I haven't ran mine a bit more then that but it made and aweful lot of noise. I took it about and also realized the metal motor plate is bent.
So Im curious do I need an extra slipper pad with the metal spur I'm seeing mixed reviews and I just got my son a vorteks and am going to change that plastic spur out asap?
Yes add the extra pad as the nut bottoms out and won’t go full tight
Thank you very much I will do that!
Well I'm on my 2nd vortex the 1st one came with no bearing on the outside hub all 4 corners mesh was tight it Maxx out at 38 on my only battery avc freaked out it crashed I then got a replacement one that's same color as yours and it's mesh was tight and I going to check mine because I had same when I checked my mesh I had a spot like yours arrma needs to do more QC it's bad
I agree the quality control been bad over a year now 😬🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Wow. Was gonna pick up a Vorteks in a few hours. Now I don’t know if I will. Thanks for the info.
It’s a good rc I believe but quality control seems to be an issue is all I’m seeing with rc cars lately 💯💯👍👍
Thanks for the reply. Why do you not think it’s comparable to the Rustler? I thought they were very similar from what I’ve seen online.
I advice u to still buy it... theres. Nothing wrong with the vortex.. a lot of RC politics in the game... u dint expect to bash a toy and nothing gets broken. So far so good the quality control on the vortex is good.. IF u bash a real car, u definitely going to need a mechanic to fix it and get parts...
@@1zedlav the way the rustlers is like a slash 4x4 the slipper clutch motor set up modular like traxxas does and it’s longer the hoss matches up real close and is traxxas neediest release so arrma would answer with an rc the rustler is old now compared to a hoss 👍👍👍
@@jomiongoo but you don’t buy a
New car and fix it before you drive quality control is bad fir sure 💯💯💯💯
I am pick mine up today I guess I am take it part before I run it.thanks for info.
I’d turn it on see if it makes the same noises 💯💯💯
My neighbors bought two of these and I recently bought two myself threw horizon hobby with their easy pay setup. And mine will be here Monday. But my neighbor blew his motor trying to keep up with my Arrma Granite mega v3 big block brushless conversion. Yeah the vorteks is fast but it isn't 4076 2200kv on a 23T in the granite fast lol. I felt bad for em though he just legitimately got it when this happened. The bearing in his motor blew out doing between 60 n 63mph we was drag racing n I was a good 10foot ahead of em n pulling away and all of a sudden his vorteks slowed down to around a stock Granite mega around 30 35 ish max so he turned it around n brought it back n I done the same n I even beat him back to us n my Granite was way out there past his lol. So something was definitely wrong. It didn't smell like burning wires or anything the esc was cool the motor was hot so he let it cool down n pulled out his outcast 4s n his ol ladies vorteks and we drove around ect n then he used his ol ladies vorteks n wanted to race because hers already had the big speed pinion in it.. so I laughed n said sure let's.do it lol. N I beat him again lol and we done a few more pulls and his ol ladies done the same thing!!! Except hers made a loud bang but still ran just much slower n then it stopped n went stopped n went so we put them on the table and he pulled one apart n I pulled his 2nd one apart to see what's up.. and the bearings in both motors blew apart...... So two destroyed motors and I heard about other vorteks motors giving out when stressed. and I felt bad because he was trying to beat my built up Granite which is insanely fast. It ran a 78.3mph this morning I'm going for 100 mph because I don't think there is a Arrma Granite mega v3 and let alone any Granite to touch 100 mph yet.. I think there is a 100 mph big rock n senton but no Granite yet. Thing is at 70+ the granite isnt to stable... So it's getting typhon arms or a outcast 4s arms tie rods shocks to widen it n give it more strength or I'll see if 6s outcast parts will fit it... I know the outcast 4s parts will because the outcast 4s is actually a Arrma Granite 110% same chassis ect just beefed up a little. So I wanna get her a lil more stable before I drop 6s lipos in it.. Im running it on 3s ovonics and golbat champion 3s lipos I got the big Ovonic 4s golbat 4s and spectrum 3 , 4 , 6 s lipos. I got a max 6 esc in it now I pulled the hobbywing Quicrun BL 120 out which btw is a bullet proof esc it says 3s but it can most definitely take 4s no probs at all. I had a 5200mah 80c and a 8000mah 100c 4s in it and it stays cool. It's a powerful esc for cheap lol. It feed my 4076 2200kv with ease and also my 4076 2000kv and also my castle 1717y which with the castle 1717 it did get a lil warm. But I believe the 1717 will be the new motor for the new esc on 6s for it.. and as for his vorteks's I gave him my spare outcast 4s 3668 motor and installed it and he had a 3660 3300kv I believe spektrum as well he dropped in it until horizon sends his replacement motors.
That’s sounded like a fun day took me an hour to read it tho 😜😜😜😜
I just got brand new out of the box, one wheell wobble, ticking grinding sound on my first run. Gonna tear this shit apart.
Mine broke because I over tightened the slipper during maintenance. Maybe yours was over tightened at the factory. I've seen others reviewing this car say their slipper was locked down. They are supposed to be 1.5 turns out.
Yes I’ve seen that happen as well it will pull the brass piece out it it’s over tighten 💯💯👍👍
@@earlmoorhead5555 if ya look closely, you'll see that the brass bushing is just pressed on to the aluminum slipper plate. The inside of the brass "cap" is actually a very thin part of the slipper plate that broke off. While it's thin, it seems to work just fine as long as it's not cranked on too hard. Hopefully it's the last time you'll have this problem...
I was tightening it down, felt it "pop", then the entire slipper just fell apart. It sucks that the guy at the factory threw it together after it broke.
My slipper was set perfectly, from the factory. So it's not every truck, maybe just 1 bad assembler.
EARL....to bad about you daughters truck,,,,,,,IMHO,,,armma is pumping so many vehicles so fast,,,,it’s affecting their quality control....
Thanks man, great video. This is what I’m looking for when I’ll have my rustler 4x4 brushed.
Get my hands dirty while upgrading it 😂 Hope I can have some advice from you.
Yeaaaaaa, my motor is fried on mine. My spur is a little shredded as well. I didn’t think anything of it. Like you said, meh it’ll take some time to wear in and seat. 5 batteries later the motor seized and the spur is shredded. Opened a claim with horizon now for the motor, and might just get a slipper and spur assembly from another model. My first Arrma, and my first bad experience with something like this that wasn’t my fault 😂😂
Man don't forget the diff cases are void of grease lube generously helps greatly
Awesome job Earl! Thank you man 👊
Thanks 🙏
What was the issue? I have the same problem.I saw video 2 times but I still don’t understand how you fixed that. Sorry but I’m total noob
As much as i like arrma i hate the slipper clutch design. All problems would go away with a center differential.
Yes or a good quality slipper like traxxas uses adding the metal spur it’s hard to find the added slipper pad you need to add on should have a notation with the spur gear 💯💯💯
A good center diff would be my most wanted part for this car
Earl seems like this is Arrma mo release product fix later maybe. Thanks for saving me $375. People really comment on the dirty nails, funny, funny.
Thanks again
Hi earl. Great video on that. Good work on finding out the issue. Hopefully mine won't have that problem. Still waiting for the street release lol. Yeah arrma 2 year warranty so don't waste money on parts well only upgrades of course. Enjoy it brother. That thing is fast so be careful with it.
Bro you gotta pull back kn the emoji's 15 year old girls arnt watching these videos XD. However I do love the content you know your shit.
i'm here for watching bro
I don't have an arrma vortex type yet, maybe one day I can have it
I hope so ^.^
My big rock did the same time and had to go get another one from my local hobby shop and has been fine ever Since.
Nice 👍
Earl great find there, any idea what makes that piece shear off ? Is it in the factory assembly or when the truck is first run. Also how will this part not fail again ? Great video man.
All great questions my other
Platform from arrma are the same and I haven’t had this failure before I believe it’s either a bad batch an assembly problem or something of this nature 👍👍💯💯💯
I think its when not centered and tighten down just piece brass pressed into aluminum, I been down this road 2 hours using diagram and another assy, I bought one off jennys and it was defective , I wish they make upgrade one I may try nut bolt in together just make a locker how much that thing really working like a clutch uk , I hear all votex clicking through yt but not sure thats noise u guys mean .
haven't watched it yet. haven't read comments. i'm thinking it's bearings already in my head. every 3S FIRRMA motor i have had so far was bearing fail after 3-5 packs
interesting. Just picked one up for my wife. we have not had it out yet. plan to tomorrow so we will see. Thanks for the info
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@@earlmoorhead5555 did you have a video on the wheel falling off? I am looking for some info. After 10 min the wheel came out the axle. wheel is on the axle. Not to happy about it.
Rc guy garage has a video on the big rock doing that on a front wheel but the VORTEKS I haven’t had that issue yet but we know it will as the platforms the same just shorter
@@earlmoorhead5555 ok thanks. I will take a look for it. So weird. I did not even get a chance to rip the truck my self.
I know he added hot racing front hubs to correct it but it turned out they caused more damage later than it was worth so he went back to stock front hub ( bearing carrier) to make it stop braking other parts
The aluminum slipper plate broke! That brass part just goes over it and gets pressed on. I had a replacement slipper plate come bent out of shape and useless! Amain replaced it no problem.
Just sucks! The other problem is the bearing on the shaft side of the motor!!! Just a matter of time? Bearing replacement.
Glad you got it figured out bro
The mechanics mind at work
Right I put that slipper together over 20 times in two hours I didn’t understand 😬😬🤣🤣🤣
Earl dose it again. That would have taken arma at least a week to figure out. To many ppl get involved sometimes in corporate America lol. Good job great video
Here we go another ready to work on..🤣👍🏼 Good job man. Now go get that medi pedi!😉 Oh and a lot of Jaytee cars whirn or make a whirring noise. Could be his audio amplifying the gear noise. Have you noticed? I love you guys video by the way.
Unfortunately lemons occur in the rc hobby you seemed to have got one, I panicked and cracked mine open and everything is fine. Im ten packs in so far no issues.
Nice 💯👍
Glad I saw this! Cancelled my order and will see if it gets resolved by Arrma.
Supplied tool is for the shocks, I wouldn't lose it.
I'm hoping this is just a rare issue that happens but if it is semi-common the fix doesn't seem to be too crazy at least.
So every vortex who makes that weird sound is because at the factory they overtightened the screw and snaped that aluminium hub?? I was wondering why it was making funny noises when this power system and clutch is used on every 3-4s line but only the vortex was doing it
I’m not sure as I’ve only looked at one not sure but the gear not being round causes the noise my case it didn’t sit flat so it moved in an oval pattern 💯💯💯
I have the same issue on my new Big Rock which I bought end of March in The Netherlands. But it has a new power unit after the original one blew its bearings. Could be a power unit from the same batch as all the new Vorteks models.
I have a mojave and tons of fun but now wanted to get one of the 3s bashers to travel with but now im starting to think go big rock first? 🤔
Long as you check the mesh and fix it I believe this rc is good 💯💯💯
Big Rocks have issues out of the box too. The entire 3s line shares all of the same drivetrain with the exception of center driveshaft length.
Just ordered the same thing , I'll be watching for this problem. Thanks for the detailed video👍
Thanks 🙏
I’m having problems with my motor or esc I don’t know what’s wrong and my motor doesn’t have any slope on any of the gears. Is that normal?
Thanks for putting in the work
Thanks 🙏
You funny Ed, about your nails not being cleaned., lol
Several ppl made comments I figured to nip it in the butt in the video 😜😜😜😜
@@earlmoorhead5555 It rocks! Non of this girly wearing glove stuff! Nothing wrong with a bit of grit under the nails! We wouldn’t be here today if it wasn’t for the grit under nails of our grandparents!
It’s weird how many complaint videos I have seen on the vorteks and never see any on the typhon or other 3s models. Was considered this model but maybe I should stay away.
I’ve noticed the first run on arrma cars have the most problems but later they get fixed 👍👍💯💯💯
Mine wore out the brass cap and the end where it sits causing youre problem floating
Nice diagnosis Earl.........another Arrma disappointment........obviously rushing to market without proper testing. You can’t just design in CAD😂
14:06 LOL got me dyin...! you will go viral bro you have too much knowledge not to. It all makes sense in your head and you can describe it. Me, it just stays in my head =) other than that issue it seems to be a good looking truck. BTW that tool is perfect for tatt gun...! thanks bro
Ouch.... May still have to get one for my daughter too 👊😎
Seems like it might be a good or even a great rc but quality control seems to be an issue on new releases but get worked out in the long run 💯💯👍👍
Good work! Wouldn't be an Arrma if it doesn't have some inherent issue with it. Granite v2 was a disaster - Laggy receiver, crap servo, leaking shocks. Arrma is overrated as hell.
Could I just take the entire spur gear assembly from my Typhon 3s and just swap it out while waiting for a new part?
Yes
Mine sounded funny as well... drove fine though.
Yes it will but won’t last long it will ruin the spur gear and the debris will end up in the motor bearings 💯💯
Does the motor just slide off I’m tryna do it but it’s not moving
After the red stop is removed the motor assembly slides back 👍
What?! Ya, just break it in.....it’s fine! Lol
Recall time probably horizon hobby fault. I’m still waiting for a brand center diff for my brand new Arrma Infraction V2 still in box with diff oil everywhere and I called them they said it’s on backorder??!!
Well pull it out of the box and fix it. 🤦
@@spike-- RTW
@@moereefer
Not sure what that means🤷.all rc's have issues. Just make it better. 👍Or quit now. It's really minor and will help you to work on it yourself. ✌️
You definitely should be called “Yoda” my friend..... I can’t tell you how much I’ve learned from your videos E....... always Gr8 content....!! ☮️~~I’m out👍🏻😎
Great breakdown Earl...you're a beast.
Thanks 🙏
Hey Earl, the way you bring alive those issues sounding off, makes it more enjoyable lol. 😅😂🤣🛻
😜thanks
That’s Arrma tough right there
😂 yessir! Hey Id take it in stride though I’ve had factory defects on my e revo 2.0 as well but after I sorted it out the things a beast. Full speed skatepark bashing with no issues in 20+ packs
I think they rushed these rc’s I just got my big rock yesterday,no oil in the shocks,camber and toe is horrible and I believe the mesh is wrong.
Yes overseas is having a hard time with the assembly of rc cars most products really 💯💯
My good friend got one an out the box issues first the left front tire was no where near straight then had the binding issue fixed that for him later that day claimed the motor shifted an chewed spur gear probably has this issue in this video as well an he broke an arm I sure there’s more he hasn’t told me
THANKYOU SIR. GREAT HELP 👍
Same problem i had when using the metal gear
Next you need to replace the motor bearings! I don't imagine Firma has put better bearings in the 3200kv with the Vorteks.
Yes I agree there the same
Sold my senton between the rocks getting in and eating the spur it was never smooth pain in the but bought a slash never looked back
Nice 👍