San KAW was nice because you could tell how good someone was with a god at a glance, well sort of anyways. The only reason they changed it was because they had so much garbage on the loading screen back then with the season ticket points and KAW that they literally broke the game. Hi Rez was too incompetent figure out how to fix it so they just removed it, kind of like what happened with clans recently. Yes the clan system needed an overhaul, but they didn’t have to remove it do overhaul it. They removed it because SOMEHOW clans were breaking ranked. Only Hi Rez man....
siege used to be my favourite gamemode until they introduced timed queues and you had to wait 8 minutes for a game, even further decreasing population.....
That doesn't seem accurate though, Siege's playerbase went downhill to the degree where it was barely ever played by anyone except a few dedicated people a very long time before the timed qeues came around. Hell if anything I get games a lot faster now than i did before the qeue change, probably because people can actually plan around when it fires.
Release sol lol. I remember when Medusa could 1 shot anyone at level 1 with just bluestone and her 1 because the scaling was 33% per shot. And melting gf for half her hp with just her 1.
Bluestone was fun in general, I kind of miss it. Getting bad version of crusher on level 1. But I miss death's toll even more and just running Osiris solo and be even more unkillable then nowadays.
@@golazdude Release Belona...oh god... Ratatoskr wasnt as OP but a lot more annoying, with his million dashes. Yall remember release Khepri thou? A bazillion protections with his 2...and that ult!!
@@joeltheowl3299 It was really fun, but not kind of annoying broken, I really didnt mind him that much after a first couple of nerfs. But the nerf hammer kept falling.
I really enjoyed using flickering ritual aggressively on Tyr back then, but man did it feel bad when you couldn't kill squishies because they always had an escape up
I remember golden bow at some point having: The AoE attk, 55 power and some crit chance (and attks speed i think as well). There was a point that even solo laners where building that thing
its funny how i missed every single one of those because i joined smite in late S3, played arena for the beginning and in S4 my smite-newbie brain said, why would i ever pay 1000 gold for a blink when i can get one for free instead?
The ones i can think of would be the chest event and getting rid of jumping's use. Remember that?!?! Jumping had a use. There was skill around when to jump. i.e. hear audio cue > press spacebar > get stunned in the air, but you keep moving b/c you were jumping in the air. The main reason I'm bitter about it is the fact that for a LONG TIME they said is was an "intended feature", but when the change came out they said it was unintentional and people were abusing it to gain an unfair advantage.
Oohhh, yes! It was the wild wild west! Right after the start of the match you could 100 to 0 in 2 sec anybody with Pele. And late game it was just worse, because she couldn't die at all xD
Ah double blink tyr....there was just no getting away from him. Engage with blink when they used their flicker you’d ult to chase and if they had an escape chase with flicker. They just could not get away.
I think the worst change HiRez made is the pricing on skins. I miss the good old days when skins would cost ~400 gems. 300 for some skins with only small reworks, 400 gems for awesome skins. Once in a while there were skins you could buy for 600 gems but these skins were INSANE. Today every fking skin that comes out is ~600 to 800 gems (mostly obtainable by chests). I mean it's okay to spend money on a game. especially if you like it and the game is free to play. but at some point you need to stop and just accept that some things are total bullshit. I missed the Necromancer Merlin skin and god damnit I really like that one. HiRez charges 3300 Gems for that. In € its almost 40€. You can buy a completly new tripple A game for ~40€. That is just utter bullshit. I know most of the comments will be like "stfu its free to play you dont need skins" "you dont have to pay if you dont want" "blahblahblah". Once again, I am just pointing out the madnes behind paying +100€ (for a T5 skin) or even 30-40€ for a bunch of pixels. You sweaty nerds can spend your money on what ever you want I dont care. I for my self I stopped buying skins since they got so fking expensiv, allthough I didnt stop spending money on smite. like there is nothing wrong with the battlepass for example. nice and fair.
They tried REALLY hard to balance combat blink though, they reduced the cooldown, they increased the cooldown, altered the range, the cost to purchase it (yes you had to pay for relics back in the day) and in every single iteration it absolutely broke carries. Smite cannot have a combat blink in it's current state, everything already has too much mobility as it is.
I totally agree with rituals taking the number 1 spot, but I honestly think that frenzied ritual was arguably the biggest problem of the four, or at least a bigger problem that rallying. If one team had one and the other didn't the team without would guaranteed lose the teamfight. In addition, because it was always the support's job to buy it they would never get a full 6 item build unless the game went on for like, at least an hour. Also, shoutouts to revealing ritual. At least one of the four was balanced and not cancerous.
@@francisharkins lol they weren't as strong as KA even with their built in sustain lmao since you could counter them reasonably with antiheal but antiheal just wasn't enough of a counter to KA with glad shield. I don't remember if it was cuz it straight up didn't work against glad's healing or cuz that's just how strong it was but yeah
I just saw how the maps used to look for the first time in an old video from Drybear the other day. I was flabbergasted. Despite maybe being less balanced or big in terms of walls and corridors and size or whatever, it was way more interesting to look at. Even though the textures were dated, they all looked warmer and realer especially with the greens and browns and golds. The conquest map that I'm familiar with is sooo plain. It is also very bright in a way that makes it feel nude and exposed. I suppose that matches the aesthetic of ancient greek architecture but it looks so boring. The old brick textures and greenery and shrub and leaf assets were much more natural and warmer to look at despite being a bit dated in terms of quality. Looking back at the old map now it is comparable to and maybe a bit higher resolution\poly-count than say Dark Souls 1. The new Cthulhu-themed Arena map has a lot more character than the old one so that's a good sign. Though even that new map could use some more grass or little seaweed assets or decorations. Hi-Rez Evil Mojo did a pretty good job re-painting the Frog Isle map in Paladins. Currently Smite's conquest map feels and looks like and reminds me of Frog Isle before it got its new paint job earlier this year. And it was known as one of the most washed out maps in the game. (On a much smaller note: it also got lots of criticism for not having any frogs or frog-themed anything lol there is some of that now too)
Not only the KAD for gold skins. But also the removal of attack speed in conquest. And making it a void buff and now having it be a half assed attack speed in season7
no ranked arena, removal of Triumph chests, Fp store skins, clan page being wasteland... and the worse change is how smite sub is moded, how mods shadow mute people or ideas that only certain gamemodes can be competitive or how certain content is forbidden or how there is like 5 smite subs... these and more are a big reason why smite community is so divided.
Arena doesn't need a ranked mode. Arena is literally whatever team comp is better wins. You can't get a fire giant buff and suddenly get a big comeback. Arena is not competitive at all.
@@Droxius mybe not competitive for you, but for some it is the most competitive and fun gamemode out there.. playing for resources is competitive for you. but yea old arena ranked could be better. but the truth is Arena is enviroment where comeback are the most possible out of ll gamemodes. Because you dont fall behind in levels like in other gamemodes. It is fighting on even field with focus on pvp.
If rituals were 1500 gold or more something for Really late game i can see it coming back into the game. During late game a pick on a fed mid laner or jungle could mean the difference between a win or a loss. Getting a Ritual as an option instead of selling boots getting the elixir and an item would just be better for the game in terms of variety this leaves the option to players to make the right call. I do however think that the teleport ritual should never be added into the game backdooring should be only allowed as a split push when the enemy team is at fault for not defending properly but a teleport to your own towers,pheonix or even titan if they are taking damage that is fast and cannot be interrupted to defend against back door or split push is something to be considered.
Sleeper: fatalis 100% haste effects on all auto attacks for hunters. This was absolutely broken because it allowed hunters to hold down autos while moving as fast as the player they’re hitting. This worked strafing side to side as well!
any body remember the tank boots in beta that gave 15% more total health. Literally everyone pick them up so the entire games damage was reduced by 15%.
When it comes to monetization I think a way worse thing is the fact that the Fantasy Store and the Triumphant chests are gone. These things were so neat for a goal back in the day and I was sooo confused when I came back and found them gone.
@@justinharris2272 The Fantasy Store was basically a point store where you could use points gathered from playing games to buy various skins and decorations. Think like the viewer point store, except you could get points by playing and the amount was actually reasonable enough that you didn't need to 24/7 no life it to get anywhere.
Oh i in fact do trust you that you have seen more then 5 bad changes. I play SMITE since closed Beta and hell there is so much shit that was done that i am surprised this game is still running.
What made me quite smite wasnt the bad changes but lack of changes which i found more annoying, jump canceled by cc after animations started, attack chains that dont match the visuals, that long pause before you can attack after some abilities, the addition of gods that basically functioned like a better version of an old one
@@noamcohen7124 What makes me ragequit Smite from time to time is how bad Hi-Rezs understanding of "classes" is. Tank: Should be the class which annoys the enemy via CC. In Smite they annoy you via damage.
Hans Peter mage is the most popular class by far and the biggest class in smite. Tanks shouldn’t be able to solo carry’s without any damage items but I’ve done it I don’t know how many times with sobek. I don’t get how every other moba that exists implements classes properly except smite.
@@BigPapaSpeedwagon Well Tanks (and mostly Warriors) have the higest scaling in terms of dmg. Hercules for example has the strongest Physical damage ability in the game....or is it Mulan by now when you hit her whole Ultimate ? That already shows where the balance is going. Tanks have higher damage abilitys then Carrys and Assas and they tank much more then those two. The only reason why you pick Carrys these days is because those have the range.
removal of eye of providence and the multiple HOG reworks . Eye provided one super sentry ward that could see through walls it was required for every support player. at the same time HOG had a 15% execute on objectives meaning it was required on all supports each of these cost 900? gold with a 300 gold investment just to get the starter ability. meaning if you played support you were spending 600 gold on actives/relics at the start of the game and were expected to spend 1200 gold buy the time the first gold fury could happen for hog3 ... just on relics. in addition you were'nt getting any other active. we literally played with the same relics on support for a whole season.
For me the worst thing added to smite was the focus stat. Basically the focus stat was a stat on items that increased the effect of utility like stun/slow/root duration and healing. The problem with the stat is that it was mainly on tank items so non-tanks with stuns basically had their stuns nerfed because every stun/slow/root was nerfed to compensate for the new stat. Gods like hades and sobek that had damaging abilities that healed also took a big hit cause if you build for damage your 3 ability would heal for nothing but if you built focus it would do no damage but heal for a lot more.
Don't remember Guan because I was in middle school when I was playing, but I do remember release Chaac, Bellona, and Xing Tian. Also who remembers when Ratataskor had different acorns he could choose from? Took a hiatus from Smite during end of S3 and all of S4, missed the rituals and my fav skins in the game, Viking Kali and Chaac from the event. Still hate that golden bow was removed because it would be quite nice for ap to have against Izanami in the early game because even though I love Iza, fuck her basics.
I actually really liked the concept of Relics. They were a fun idea, but making combat blink one of them was a streak of genius for making a neat idea turn to ruin immediatly.
One of the worst changes in my opinion was changing active items into relics and making relics free. It dumbed down Smite a lot and gave bad players essentially free escapes due to having a relic they otherwise wouldn't have had.
Whole s 5-7 was a just a patch of many problems stacking up together. Crit was either super op or super bad, anti invasion zone as a desperate way to force change the meta. The start for every role was cancer. Solo lane had an extra ghost minion who would help them get lvl 2, but sometimes only 1 person got it and you wouldnt hit lvl 2 and by then the game was over because you would never be able to keep up with the enemy teams pressure. Solo start was also cancer cause they lost minions no matter what they did. The jungler was also terrible op. So much easy gold and farm in the jungle that you dont have to worry about anything. Ive been a 13/1 ADC and my 1/5 jungler had 3k more gold than me after 20 min. The gold chalice in the jungle was so cancer, because it forced the jungler to go to it and hit it. This was yet another desperate way to change the meta, because the jungler and mid had so much more farm and xp than the other lanes. It wasnt uncomon to see midlaners being 5-6 lvls ahead of their support. Also the change to divide the midcamps, yet another desperate change to the meta, because people were dying to fast in mid and the ones who lost lost the entire game, because all these 3 season were designed heavily in favor of the super early game being the most critical moment.
Release Bellona and nemesis as honorable mentions. Bellona could solo fire giant at level 7 and release nemesis could absorb an infinite amount of damage with her shield and her cooldowns were so low she could basically slice and dice you into a permanent slow.
Worst changes in my opinion is that they got rid of game mode domination, the old joust map (I know they remodel it once in a while but that map brings back the memories you know) and the minotaur :(
Finally, the comment I was waiting for. My beautiful murder everyone Old Wa. You are correct, if they made her minions take 200% more damage from towers or let them get one shot by them, it would have balanced them. The stun was only one second so it was negligible. They reworked a Queen into a burst mage then proceeded to shoot both her knee caps out for being a burst mage. HiRez at its finest. Game is amazing in open beta, but they did what they always do, and milked it for money.
Itd be nice if you could like "preorder" a relic for level 12 bc its just a minor inconvenience to be walking out and see "you can replace shard". Also, rituals werent bad, rallying and flicker were bad. The others provided solid tactical advantage at the cost of alot of gold like for example seeing the enemy location for like 2 seconds. If they bring all of em back and remove those two itll give alot of hyper late game options instead of teamfight and whoever loses it loses the game
This mostly happens to me in mode of the day so it isn't a big deal... But often I will be leaving base and "you haven't bought a relic" covers up my screen and f**** with my vision when there is a fight already happening. Still annoying when it isn't blocking anything important happening. News flash Titan Forge but I don't always WANT to buy a relic right away because I don't f*cking suck and like to gauge my enemies abilities before deciding which unsellable item I might need to make my game easier or secure our win condition.
I just hate free relics. I preferred when they were purchasable now everyone just spams beads aegis combo and free beads ruin god's such as Ares and make his ult completely useless
They also require no skill, insted of paying 300 gold for a sliver of cc immunity with a long cd you can now press it when tank engages and you out, getting dived by assasin? Dont worry his free relic lets him just walk out without taking damage. The amount of times i have seen them used in suboptimal times and still getting high value is just stupid
As an Ares main i have to say that when the ADC fucking escapes out of my ult using beads it fucking angers me, but then you build CDR and destroy his ass coordinating with your ADC ultimate
I think the fatalis change and them removing fatalis abilities was the worst change. Most of those gods weren’t any more overpowered in any one game mode as any other god was, but some of them are still just not nearly as much fun to play niw
nah. the worst god releases ever was when Merlin and Arthur came out. I literally didn't want to play the game because of those two gods were in every single one of my drafts. Granted their still in a lot of games but they were stupid broken when thy were released.
Am i the only one who is disappointed by the lack of mention to ye old "Focus" mechanic from the beta days... or the "Buy Stats" functionality? Anyone remember those short times? i mean hey eventually you could have capped out physical power, crit and life steal... and pen... Also i was pretty sure that the above scenario happened while Freya was still a hybrid... (i recall this one game during those times where i capped out magical and physical power, along with their respective life steals... then sold my items and went tank... 1v5 the enemy team in their base...)
Hi Inters3ct your Items suggestion and guide on conquest is really worth it. but still in duo lane keep getting early gank and now easy rotation put this game on bad position. Hi-rez making Op god more broken and ruining I started to play DC universe online which is very cool at least you get skins of superheroes without gambles
Clans, they were horrible because hirez didn’t give a shit about them. The chests contained only recolors that you can all just buy with favors and the shadows skins were ok-ish. The idea of a clan/guild system could work but they just didn’t care enough to put effort into it
The more you think of it, smite history can be summed up in one line: “who can we fuck jungling this time?” The only buff jungling has gotten in how long is a CCR buff on assassin’s blessing 😂yellow buff is nice and all but 5% movement speed but makes it so that any off role picks are significantly harder to jung with.
@intersect im a G2 ps4 player and I just wanted too say I have a lot of respect for the vids you post and anytime I get new players into the game I always tell them too watch your vids keep up the good work
With the addition of Mulan I’m scared to play solo. As a jungler the huge blink nerf means that killing merlins and such is near impossible. I want only the best for the game but nerfing blink just hurt the jungle even more than the absurd power creep that’s made warriors more tanky than guardians.
Changing the active system for the relic system. Having to know when to, and how much to, spend on actives rather than items and when you should and shouldn't was one of the most rewarding parts of early Smite. It was one of the things that truly seperated the good and the medium players and it was discarded because some people at the truly low ends weren't ever getting actives. So not only was in, in my opinion, a really fucking terrible change; It was also made for the absolutely worst possible reason.
Personally i would have added a second part to the speed buff one because its almost not worth getting in the current season due to it being almost useless after being gutted like it was.
as a casual player, for me is when they removed the 20 wins for a godlike chest roll, i had some cool free skin in those chest.
How do u get a god like chest now ?
@@megieza3727 far as i know, with 600 commendation, per month.
I still get them alot
@UA-camSucks Balls idk in my 3ish days of being back, I' ve gotten at least 2 comms per game
@@megieza3727 reguardless of "how" there's nothing good in them anymore.
Hastened Fatalis. Man, I remember when every adc used to buy that item. Even though nowadays we have Hastened Katana, it just doesn't feel the same
Hastened fatalis and frostbound hammer while I played amc were the days god I miss it
Yes. Fatalis and Golden bow on adcs. Yikes. I remember those times
Those were the days 😔
@@mannycolon5311 You are the reason people can't have nice things
Bring back fatalis hi rez
Number 0, removing K/A/W from the loading screen
Big facts
For real though, why/ when did they do that?
KAW is annoying, like the change
San KAW was nice because you could tell how good someone was with a god at a glance, well sort of anyways. The only reason they changed it was because they had so much garbage on the loading screen back then with the season ticket points and KAW that they literally broke the game. Hi Rez was too incompetent figure out how to fix it so they just removed it, kind of like what happened with clans recently.
Yes the clan system needed an overhaul, but they didn’t have to remove it do overhaul it. They removed it because SOMEHOW clans were breaking ranked.
Only Hi Rez man....
@@fatcat2015 Bruh they literally removed Clans because of Server overload due to Coronavirus, everyone staying at home and playing the game.
siege used to be my favourite gamemode until they introduced timed queues and you had to wait 8 minutes for a game, even further decreasing population.....
That doesn't seem accurate though, Siege's playerbase went downhill to the degree where it was barely ever played by anyone except a few dedicated people a very long time before the timed qeues came around. Hell if anything I get games a lot faster now than i did before the qeue change, probably because people can actually plan around when it fires.
Lol that quickly changed within 4 weeks
I’m talking about the massive influx of players is causing massive server issues I’m assuming it’s be cause of covid 19 and epic
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@@calmgoodfire4662 I think you're replying to the wrong thread mate
I dont understand why we cant queue like wow where you pick 2 roles and wait until 5 people join.
I wasn’t around for release Guan but I still remember the horror that was release Sol...
Been there but it's not my go to most broken god for whose release I have been playing. That honor goes to Bellona and Ratatosker.
Release sol lol. I remember when Medusa could 1 shot anyone at level 1 with just bluestone and her 1 because the scaling was 33% per shot.
And melting gf for half her hp with just her 1.
Bluestone was fun in general, I kind of miss it. Getting bad version of crusher on level 1. But I miss death's toll even more and just running Osiris solo and be even more unkillable then nowadays.
@@golazdude Release Belona...oh god... Ratatoskr wasnt as OP but a lot more annoying, with his million dashes.
Yall remember release Khepri thou? A bazillion protections with his 2...and that ult!!
@@joeltheowl3299 It was really fun, but not kind of annoying broken, I really didnt mind him that much after a first couple of nerfs. But the nerf hammer kept falling.
I really enjoyed using flickering ritual aggressively on Tyr back then, but man did it feel bad when you couldn't kill squishies because they always had an escape up
Cameron Himlie Sounds Like Merlin.
@@ravendc5871 top tier character design on that one
Removing rat's acorns, yeah I know they were crazy upon his release but that flavor to his character just being removed instead of balanced sucked
He was THE MOST FUN god EVER, instead of balancing.. reworm
He's getting them back in a sense. Its been datamined thay he will have a rework to his Acorn to have other final acorns.
I agree but the problem was is his crit dash acorn was beyond broken.
Flickering Ritual, damn man that brings me back
Hey no mustache man
Lol you think flickering ritual was that old? I was around *for* release guan yu. You don't have a right to act like you've been around for awhile
Godman873 didn’t ask but thanks for sharing
@@DIsturbios1234 damn, I kinda don't care
@@DIsturbios1234 shit bro I didn't know anyone asked but okay...?
I remember when the weekly quests gave gems when you finished both. That was removed the next patch
I remember golden bow at some point having: The AoE attk, 55 power and some crit chance (and attks speed i think as well). There was a point that even solo laners where building that thing
Yep, at one point it did have crit. I think it was 5% on throwing dagger and 15% on the bow
Rip mercury, that item made him.
@@kordell8199 merc still op though
Golden bow gave some movemebt speed when i olayed some crit and a tiny bit of power
bakasura solo with gbow... the days
As a someone that has played a decent amount of jungle losing your speed feels like you lost the game
True
It didnt only feel like it usually also meant it with how snowbally the game was
When they made bumba’s mask a 500 gold starter item and every game had like 8 bumba’s masks... that was really stupid.
I miss bumbas mask
its funny how i missed every single one of those because i joined smite in late S3, played arena for the beginning and in S4 my smite-newbie brain said, why would i ever pay 1000 gold for a blink when i can get one for free instead?
If I remember correctly it was a combat blink , so you could blink when fighting
@@GrantSweatshirt the combat blink was literally the only thing i used out of all rituals
1. removal of death toll
2. Relics
3. Nox rework
4. 8k gem skins
5. No casual Duel (Not a change but still a big misstep)
The ones i can think of would be the chest event and getting rid of jumping's use. Remember that?!?! Jumping had a use. There was skill around when to jump. i.e. hear audio cue > press spacebar > get stunned in the air, but you keep moving b/c you were jumping in the air. The main reason I'm bitter about it is the fact that for a LONG TIME they said is was an "intended feature", but when the change came out they said it was unintentional and people were abusing it to gain an unfair advantage.
The Focus mechanic where you could straight up buy stats after full build was interesting with the 100k MOTDs
Hey duel players, memba pele's release ? OUUUUUH AH MEMBA
Oohhh, yes! It was the wild wild west! Right after the start of the match you could 100 to 0 in 2 sec anybody with Pele. And late game it was just worse, because she couldn't die at all xD
Oof, haven't watch a video of yours in quite a while. I'm glad to see the outro hasn't changed at all.
I hated when they removed the 20 wins for free godlike. Cause now my ultimate god pack gives me a bunch of near useless favor
Ah double blink tyr....there was just no getting away from him. Engage with blink when they used their flicker you’d ult to chase and if they had an escape chase with flicker.
They just could not get away.
I think the worst change HiRez made is the pricing on skins. I miss the good old days when skins would cost ~400 gems. 300 for some skins with only small reworks, 400 gems for awesome skins. Once in a while there were skins you could buy for 600 gems but these skins were INSANE. Today every fking skin that comes out is ~600 to 800 gems (mostly obtainable by chests). I mean it's okay to spend money on a game. especially if you like it and the game is free to play. but at some point you need to stop and just accept that some things are total bullshit. I missed the Necromancer Merlin skin and god damnit I really like that one. HiRez charges 3300 Gems for that. In € its almost 40€. You can buy a completly new tripple A game for ~40€. That is just utter bullshit. I know most of the comments will be like "stfu its free to play you dont need skins" "you dont have to pay if you dont want" "blahblahblah". Once again, I am just pointing out the madnes behind paying +100€ (for a T5 skin) or even 30-40€ for a bunch of pixels. You sweaty nerds can spend your money on what ever you want I dont care. I for my self I stopped buying skins since they got so fking expensiv, allthough I didnt stop spending money on smite. like there is nothing wrong with the battlepass for example. nice and fair.
WTB Shard ward that deletes itself at replacement level without me having to remember to replace it, lol
We need episode 2
You forgot the worst change ever. Cartoon maps
Was shocked to no see Focus not on the list.
Honestly they really need a combat blink in this game still. Would open up lots of possibilities.
They tried REALLY hard to balance combat blink though, they reduced the cooldown, they increased the cooldown, altered the range, the cost to purchase it (yes you had to pay for relics back in the day) and in every single iteration it absolutely broke carries. Smite cannot have a combat blink in it's current state, everything already has too much mobility as it is.
Portal demon was pretty bad. Buff to sunder in season 4 that turned ravana into an assassin the following season.
God I miss how good sunder was. They massacred my boi
I totally agree with rituals taking the number 1 spot, but I honestly think that frenzied ritual was arguably the biggest problem of the four, or at least a bigger problem that rallying. If one team had one and the other didn't the team without would guaranteed lose the teamfight. In addition, because it was always the support's job to buy it they would never get a full 6 item build unless the game went on for like, at least an hour. Also, shoutouts to revealing ritual. At least one of the four was balanced and not cancerous.
You forgot about the decision to add King Arthur while glad shield was a thing
*Laughs in Chaac, Hercules, Achilles built in sustain.*
@@francisharkins lol they weren't as strong as KA even with their built in sustain lmao since you could counter them reasonably with antiheal but antiheal just wasn't enough of a counter to KA with glad shield. I don't remember if it was cuz it straight up didn't work against glad's healing or cuz that's just how strong it was but yeah
Worst changes were aesthetic, look how dull and textureless the maps look, like they're permanently on lowest settings.
I just saw how the maps used to look for the first time in an old video from Drybear the other day. I was flabbergasted. Despite maybe being less balanced or big in terms of walls and corridors and size or whatever, it was way more interesting to look at. Even though the textures were dated, they all looked warmer and realer especially with the greens and browns and golds.
The conquest map that I'm familiar with is sooo plain. It is also very bright in a way that makes it feel nude and exposed. I suppose that matches the aesthetic of ancient greek architecture but it looks so boring. The old brick textures and greenery and shrub and leaf assets were much more natural and warmer to look at despite being a bit dated in terms of quality. Looking back at the old map now it is comparable to and maybe a bit higher resolution\poly-count than say Dark Souls 1.
The new Cthulhu-themed Arena map has a lot more character than the old one so that's a good sign. Though even that new map could use some more grass or little seaweed assets or decorations.
Hi-Rez Evil Mojo did a pretty good job re-painting the Frog Isle map in Paladins. Currently Smite's conquest map feels and looks like and reminds me of Frog Isle before it got its new paint job earlier this year. And it was known as one of the most washed out maps in the game. (On a much smaller note: it also got lots of criticism for not having any frogs or frog-themed anything lol there is some of that now too)
Max level guan you still has fucking insane damage per ability for a warrior
Not only the KAD for gold skins. But also the removal of attack speed in conquest. And making it a void buff and now having it be a half assed attack speed in season7
no ranked arena, removal of Triumph chests, Fp store skins, clan page being wasteland... and the worse change is how smite sub is moded, how mods shadow mute people or ideas that only certain gamemodes can be competitive or how certain content is forbidden or how there is like 5 smite subs... these and more are a big reason why smite community is so divided.
Arena doesn't need a ranked mode. Arena is literally whatever team comp is better wins. You can't get a fire giant buff and suddenly get a big comeback. Arena is not competitive at all.
@@Droxius mybe not competitive for you, but for some it is the most competitive and fun gamemode out there.. playing for resources is competitive for you. but yea old arena ranked could be better. but the truth is Arena is enviroment where comeback are the most possible out of ll gamemodes. Because you dont fall behind in levels like in other gamemodes. It is fighting on even field with focus on pvp.
If rituals were 1500 gold or more something for Really late game i can see it coming back into the game. During late game a pick on a fed mid laner or jungle could mean the difference between a win or a loss. Getting a Ritual as an option instead of selling boots getting the elixir and an item would just be better for the game in terms of variety this leaves the option to players to make the right call. I do however think that the teleport ritual should never be added into the game backdooring should be only allowed as a split push when the enemy team is at fault for not defending properly but a teleport to your own towers,pheonix or even titan if they are taking damage that is fast and cannot be interrupted to defend against back door or split push is something to be considered.
Sleeper: fatalis 100% haste effects on all auto attacks for hunters. This was absolutely broken because it allowed hunters to hold down autos while moving as fast as the player they’re hitting. This worked strafing side to side as well!
any body remember the tank boots in beta that gave 15% more total health. Literally everyone pick them up so the entire games damage was reduced by 15%.
Uhhh that doesn't mean the game's damage is reduced by 15% lol
When it comes to monetization I think a way worse thing is the fact that the Fantasy Store and the Triumphant chests are gone. These things were so neat for a goal back in the day and I was sooo confused when I came back and found them gone.
I agree triumphant chests were awesome and did not need to be removed, but what was the fantasy store? I dont think i remember that
@@justinharris2272 The Fantasy Store was basically a point store where you could use points gathered from playing games to buy various skins and decorations. Think like the viewer point store, except you could get points by playing and the amount was actually reasonable enough that you didn't need to 24/7 no life it to get anywhere.
@@heavencanceler2691 god this sounds so familiar when was it around?
@@justinharris2272 According to google, it was removed at the start of Season 6 or so.
And now we have vines.
Oh i in fact do trust you that you have seen more then 5 bad changes. I play SMITE since closed Beta and hell there is so much shit that was done that i am surprised this game is still running.
What made me quite smite wasnt the bad changes but lack of changes which i found more annoying, jump canceled by cc after animations started, attack chains that dont match the visuals, that long pause before you can attack after some abilities, the addition of gods that basically functioned like a better version of an old one
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What makes me ragequit Smite from time to time is how bad Hi-Rezs understanding of "classes" is.
Tank:
Should be the class which annoys the enemy via CC. In Smite they annoy you via damage.
Hans Peter mage is the most popular class by far and the biggest class in smite. Tanks shouldn’t be able to solo carry’s without any damage items but I’ve done it I don’t know how many times with sobek. I don’t get how every other moba that exists implements classes properly except smite.
@@BigPapaSpeedwagon lol and hots dont
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Well Tanks (and mostly Warriors) have the higest scaling in terms of dmg. Hercules for example has the strongest Physical damage ability in the game....or is it Mulan by now when you hit her whole Ultimate ?
That already shows where the balance is going. Tanks have higher damage abilitys then Carrys and Assas and they tank much more then those two. The only reason why you pick Carrys these days is because those have the range.
removal of eye of providence and the multiple HOG reworks . Eye provided one super sentry ward that could see through walls it was required for every support player. at the same time HOG had a 15% execute on objectives meaning it was required on all supports each of these cost 900? gold with a 300 gold investment just to get the starter ability. meaning if you played support you were spending 600 gold on actives/relics at the start of the game and were expected to spend 1200 gold buy the time the first gold fury could happen for hog3 ... just on relics. in addition you were'nt getting any other active. we literally played with the same relics on support for a whole season.
As an actives cultist, i think Relics were the worst change in Smite.
For me the worst thing added to smite was the focus stat. Basically the focus stat was a stat on items that increased the effect of utility like stun/slow/root duration and healing. The problem with the stat is that it was mainly on tank items so non-tanks with stuns basically had their stuns nerfed because every stun/slow/root was nerfed to compensate for the new stat.
Gods like hades and sobek that had damaging abilities that healed also took a big hit cause if you build for damage your 3 ability would heal for nothing but if you built focus it would do no damage but heal for a lot more.
Don't remember Guan because I was in middle school when I was playing, but I do remember release Chaac, Bellona, and Xing Tian. Also who remembers when Ratataskor had different acorns he could choose from? Took a hiatus from Smite during end of S3 and all of S4, missed the rituals and my fav skins in the game, Viking Kali and Chaac from the event. Still hate that golden bow was removed because it would be quite nice for ap to have against Izanami in the early game because even though I love Iza, fuck her basics.
Ngl, I abused golden bow jing wei when that was a thing
I remember when you could buy stats for gold so late game snowballing was even more busted than it already is.
removing the 4 chests a week from winning games. Such a scummy move
I actually really liked the concept of Relics. They were a fun idea, but making combat blink one of them was a streak of genius for making a neat idea turn to ruin immediatly.
Dude, OG golden bow makes me so upset. Fighting Mercury with that shit on him was RIDICULOUS
One of the worst changes in my opinion was changing active items into relics and making relics free. It dumbed down Smite a lot and gave bad players essentially free escapes due to having a relic they otherwise wouldn't have had.
ah great. and here i thought i was recovering from the PTSD i have from the speedbuff
Whole s 5-7 was a just a patch of many problems stacking up together. Crit was either super op or super bad, anti invasion zone as a desperate way to force change the meta. The start for every role was cancer. Solo lane had an extra ghost minion who would help them get lvl 2, but sometimes only 1 person got it and you wouldnt hit lvl 2 and by then the game was over because you would never be able to keep up with the enemy teams pressure. Solo start was also cancer cause they lost minions no matter what they did. The jungler was also terrible op. So much easy gold and farm in the jungle that you dont have to worry about anything. Ive been a 13/1 ADC and my 1/5 jungler had 3k more gold than me after 20 min. The gold chalice in the jungle was so cancer, because it forced the jungler to go to it and hit it. This was yet another desperate way to change the meta, because the jungler and mid had so much more farm and xp than the other lanes. It wasnt uncomon to see midlaners being 5-6 lvls ahead of their support. Also the change to divide the midcamps, yet another desperate change to the meta, because people were dying to fast in mid and the ones who lost lost the entire game, because all these 3 season were designed heavily in favor of the super early game being the most critical moment.
welcome gods and goddesses to the smite god reveal for tsukuyomi, god of the moon
Release Bellona and nemesis as honorable mentions. Bellona could solo fire giant at level 7 and release nemesis could absorb an infinite amount of damage with her shield and her cooldowns were so low she could basically slice and dice you into a permanent slow.
Worst changes in my opinion is that they got rid of game mode domination, the old joust map (I know they remodel it once in a while but that map brings back the memories you know) and the minotaur :(
as an apple owner without bootcamp, im beyond mad about them suddenly removing compatiblity with mac in season 7
this list needs to be like 2 videos long. 5 is definitely not enough
My #1 will always be Nu Wa rework, Old Wa was my favorite goddess ever
She was also incredible broken
@@hjalmarvuori9846 If they had nerfed her minions and tower stun she could have been a balanced auto attack mage
Finally, the comment I was waiting for. My beautiful murder everyone Old Wa. You are correct, if they made her minions take 200% more damage from towers or let them get one shot by them, it would have balanced them. The stun was only one second so it was negligible. They reworked a Queen into a burst mage then proceeded to shoot both her knee caps out for being a burst mage. HiRez at its finest. Game is amazing in open beta, but they did what they always do, and milked it for money.
that's so weird i dont recall the rituals at all and played a good amount during this time but... i have 0 memories of buying or seeing rituals...
Season 3 and 4... rough times...
Y'all remember Sunder, Bracer Meta?
When I heard "killer meme star" I heard keemstar. Dont scare me like that!
Itd be nice if you could like "preorder" a relic for level 12 bc its just a minor inconvenience to be walking out and see "you can replace shard". Also, rituals werent bad, rallying and flicker were bad. The others provided solid tactical advantage at the cost of alot of gold like for example seeing the enemy location for like 2 seconds. If they bring all of em back and remove those two itll give alot of hyper late game options instead of teamfight and whoever loses it loses the game
This mostly happens to me in mode of the day so it isn't a big deal... But often I will be leaving base and "you haven't bought a relic" covers up my screen and f**** with my vision when there is a fight already happening. Still annoying when it isn't blocking anything important happening. News flash Titan Forge but I don't always WANT to buy a relic right away because I don't f*cking suck and like to gauge my enemies abilities before deciding which unsellable item I might need to make my game easier or secure our win condition.
You forgot the frenzy like ritual. It was so op aror sold his boots once just to have it for a siege
I’ve played smite for 5 years now and nothing was more frustrating for me than the release and the mad power of heimdallr
I miss Bluestone Pendant so much
@Avacaado Yasss my kali plays are unstoppable now
Release nemesis shield
I just hate free relics. I preferred when they were purchasable now everyone just spams beads aegis combo and free beads ruin god's such as Ares and make his ult completely useless
They also require no skill, insted of paying 300 gold for a sliver of cc immunity with a long cd you can now press it when tank engages and you out, getting dived by assasin? Dont worry his free relic lets him just walk out without taking damage.
The amount of times i have seen them used in suboptimal times and still getting high value is just stupid
As an Ares main i have to say that when the ADC fucking escapes out of my ult using beads it fucking angers me, but then you build CDR and destroy his ass coordinating with your ADC ultimate
I think the fatalis change and them removing fatalis abilities was the worst change. Most of those gods weren’t any more overpowered in any one game mode as any other god was, but some of them are still just not nearly as much fun to play niw
2:30 because that was the divine dragon t5 event.
remember when chronos 2 didnt have mov speed penalty..... he was so nice to play
Giving Tier 2 Frostbound a slow was also a bad move (heavy hammer + red pot jungle start meta)
This was my favorite meta to play. Arachne with heavy hammer and leveling web first.
My personal #1 has to be release Susano. Most broken god ever released imo, as I wasn't playing the game in beta. Release Baron comes close though
Agni dashing into ullr at level 1........... one can only assume he as never seen an ullr before '
he is in for a tough learning curve ahead
nah. the worst god releases ever was when Merlin and Arthur came out. I literally didn't want to play the game because of those two gods were in every single one of my drafts. Granted their still in a lot of games but they were stupid broken when thy were released.
They aren't even close near to bellona, guan or sol release bro,i bet u wasnt a player to see the horror it was
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Am i the only one who is disappointed by the lack of mention to ye old "Focus" mechanic from the beta days... or the "Buy Stats" functionality? Anyone remember those short times? i mean hey eventually you could have capped out physical power, crit and life steal... and pen...
Also i was pretty sure that the above scenario happened while Freya was still a hybrid... (i recall this one game during those times where i capped out magical and physical power, along with their respective life steals... then sold my items and went tank... 1v5 the enemy team in their base...)
With Divine Uprising, you could pick one of 3 items each roll. That gives you a 33.3% chance to get what you want from the chest. Not that bad tbh.
The worst change to Smite was adding Bumba's Mask and making jungling a thing. Change my mind.
Odysseus bow being used on magical gods anyone? It was a must have on my Zeus roleplay.
Hi Inters3ct your Items suggestion and guide on conquest is really worth it. but still in duo lane keep getting early gank and now easy rotation put this game on bad position. Hi-rez making Op god more broken and ruining
I started to play DC universe online which is very cool at least you get skins of superheroes without gambles
do more blasts from the past, more bad changes or do best changes
in non-conquest mode getting aegis at level 1 killed the game for me, i used to see 8-9 aegis every game, was just not fun anymore
Rituals where cool. I miss hastened fatalis...
Clans, they were horrible because hirez didn’t give a shit about them. The chests contained only recolors that you can all just buy with favors and the shadows skins were ok-ish. The idea of a clan/guild system could work but they just didn’t care enough to put effort into it
Jesus I forgot about the speed buff change. Horrid.
You forgot about "focus" from the early days:(
The more you think of it, smite history can be summed up in one line: “who can we fuck jungling this time?” The only buff jungling has gotten in how long is a CCR buff on assassin’s blessing 😂yellow buff is nice and all but 5% movement speed but makes it so that any off role picks are significantly harder to jung with.
Removing multiqueue just didn't make sense to me
Kinda wasn't mad about chest due to me opening it and getting exactly what I wanted sooo either my luck is Godlike or I'm just a straight up boss
@intersect im a G2 ps4 player and I just wanted too say I have a lot of respect for the vids you post and anytime I get new players into the game I always tell them too watch your vids keep up the good work
I miss combat blink.
Great for the memes
Memba when they nerfd susans 1 and added a delay to it
They’re nerfing blink now. So.. ganking solo for me will be a pain.
With the addition of Mulan I’m scared to play solo.
As a jungler the huge blink nerf means that killing merlins and such is near impossible.
I want only the best for the game but nerfing blink just hurt the jungle even more than the absurd power creep that’s made warriors more tanky than guardians.
loki introduced into the game
Changing the active system for the relic system. Having to know when to, and how much to, spend on actives rather than items and when you should and shouldn't was one of the most rewarding parts of early Smite. It was one of the things that truly seperated the good and the medium players and it was discarded because some people at the truly low ends weren't ever getting actives.
So not only was in, in my opinion, a really fucking terrible change;
It was also made for the absolutely worst possible reason.
Jo Akø Sannan I completely agree
OK worst change is adding Heimdallr and yemoja in season 6
Release susano was insane
The fact you cant bring a whole team into ranked conquest.
@THE VOID there used to be one like that but they took that queue out
They should adapt lols way, solo/dou queue and flex queue
Personally i would have added a second part to the speed buff one because its almost not worth getting in the current season due to it being almost useless after being gutted like it was.
But what jungler doesnt want instant 10% ccr its completely busted *sarcasm*
The classic joust come back is #1 for me
I have played since the beta and have seen some utter insanity