We used this video as a guide for seeking our NLV from the Los Angeles Consulate. This video was extremely useful. In general, I found the actual interview to be way less stringent than this video implied it would be(I'm not complaining!). I was way over prepared for the interview, they only needed about half of the info that I had prepared. Even though we are clearly at retirement age, the consulate really seemed eager to see a notarized letter of intent confirming we had no intention of working in Spain. Also, they only wanted enough proof of IPREM income to confirm the minimum, no need to confirm absolutely every penny from every account that you have. The emphasis of having everything stamped seemed to be exaggerated, too; just a good translation seemed to be enough. We were the only people there the whole time. There was no one there before us or after us, that seemed strange since there were appointments available at ten minute intervals when we booked ours. The interviewer was super friendly, frankly, we thought it was easy. Best of luck to everyone.
Wow! Sounds like you had a great experience. From what we’ve heard, it varies so much. Thanks for sharing your story; it’s so helpful to hear from others. Good luck with the rest of your move to Spain!
Yeah the FBI check was the biggest hassle and took the longest time. We sent the documents to the FBI and waited a month before starting the process for the other documents that the Visa requires. I got mine directly from the FBI, but my wife had problems because her finger prints were not clear enough. She eventually got an acceptable background check (the 3rd set of prints submitted were accepted) from the DOJ of our state(California). The state background check was much faster than the FBI check. I don't think that every Spanish consulate will accept a state background check, however. The copies of our marriage license expired before we could get an appointment with the consulate, so we had to get those twice. Got them back with the apostle from Nevada with about 10 days to spare before the Visa appointment.
The consulates have wizened up to the amount of time that it takes to get the FBI background check apostilled, so now they are allowing 5 months for that one piece. Lucky for us. - Great video!
Hey there, Just saw your video in one of the Facebook groups! As an Immigration Consultant, I have to say you guys are champions! Getting through the Spanish Consulate in LA is pretty tough, especially when you want to apply between July and October (that's the busiest period in the Spanish Consulates in the US). Well done indeed! As a tip from me, should you plan on renewing your NLVs, open up a Spanish bank account and transfer the funds for years 2 and 3 there (minimum funds are x2 the ones for the initial NLV - keep that in mind) - getting proof of funds from a Spanish bank account is much easier + it is all in Spanish + most banks already know they have to stamp everything. Enjoy España!
We're at the very beginning of our move to Spain dream and are sitting here in Vancouver while binge watching your videos. Super informative and extremely helpful...just wanted to say thanks!
Thank you for taking the time to shoot and edit this video. Sounds nerve wracking, but not as bad as applying for an American visa. I have a friend from Costa Rica and in that American consulate people can only apply for a tourist visa once every 6 months and I've heard that some of the consulate workers behind the windows can be pretty condescending. Even though it was stressful for you two, I think you'll enjoy your time in Europe. There's no mass shootings, people value quality of life over breathing and living just to work. Hope you have a wonderful time.
This was such a satisfying video. I love the detail and humour. I can feel your excitement and relief. Thanks for the awesome content and story. Staying tuned...
Congratulations to you both! I just renew my non lucrative visa and I did it in Galicia where i am registered (empadronado). It was very very fast (less than 1 week of approval). I hope you decide to stay longer! It is funny and weird to see americans struggle with all the visa process
@@DaysWeSpend I did it online. But I decided to hire a lawyer who helped me submit all the paperwork. It was 300 euros. I think it totally worth it for mental peace. I didn't have to worry about anything. I had it 1 week later (Oct 23- 30th). Then, i got an appoint at the police station in Santa Uxia de Ribeira to renew the TIE. There weren't appointments in the. web. I called to the Police Station and they booked directly. But I had to wait my TIE expired (Nov 10th). By Dec 14th, I had my new TIE. The magic of Galicia compared to other crowded cities like Madrid or Barcelona. Reached me if you want more tips. Happy to help! Continue your journey!!
Congrats on getting your NLV! I applied for mine in late November 2021, and my experience was similar to yours. I even spent about the same amount on translations! The main differences for me included being able to get my background check/apostille from Colorado (this took 2.5 weeks) since I had lived there for more than the previous five years, and I did not have to get my 1040 tax forms translated. (I asked the L.A. consulate beforehand, and they explicitly told me I did not need to get them translated.) It also took seven weeks for my NLV application to be approved instead of two weeks for the two of you. Maybe they are getting faster! Enjoy Ourense! I am in Pontevedra, which is also in Galicia. I love it here!
04:20 ,As a curiosity, remember that in Europe the dates are ordered day/month/year and the hours of the day go from 0 to 24, not in groups of 12 am or pm.
Very helpful video. Thanks. It would be really helpful (and reassuring) to see how the application forms look when they are filled-in/completed. For example, it would be good to see/know if you provided a full address of where you will be living in Spain (you can black this out of course) or if you just listed the city/province.
Thanks so much. That's a really great idea for another video. We'll work on an EX-01 video with full instructions. We just listed the city/province (or left if blank).
This was really helpful and detailed. Best video I've seen. I thought you needed a rental agreement in order to apply fro the visa. Do you not have to provide information on accommodation? So basically, I should select an appointment ~3 month out correct, and start working on everything?
Thank you! The rental agreement requirement is dependent on your consulate. In Los Angeles, we didn't need to have a rental agreement. We didn't provide any accommodation information except the city we moved to. 3 months is usually the correct amount of time to get all your paperwork together, especially since stuff expires.
@@DaysWeSpend Thanks for responded. You literally responded "while" I'm watching your latest video on "costs to eat out"..haha. At what point do you have to give up your passport? Is this the day you have your appointment? I am traveling for the next few months and need my passport but wanted to start the process and just seeing if I have to wait to get back from Turkey. Thanks again and keep up the videos. You guys are great.!
@@ninobk196 Lol, that's so funny! For the NLV process, it's best to officially start it once you are back from your travels (if you are gone for more than 3 months). Until then, you can familiarize yourself with everything. Get in contact with translators, contact your banks.
Getting the appointment is the biggest pain so far. I live in Arizona, and when I log into the consulate calendar for appointments, I can only see today's date and tomorrows date (if its after 3pm) there isn't an option to search a month in advance....that would make too much sense. Has anyone else had this issue? Or is there a better browser that allows you to sent a month into the appointment future? Great video and tips ! Congrats to both of you! Spain is amazing!
We haven't heard of this issue before, but the website does break often. Maybe try other browsers, we used Chrome. But really, try other times of day, every day. The appointments will only show up if they are available, otherwise the site looks super broken. Good luck!
@@DaysWeSpend thanks for the response. Yeah, I've tried Chrome, Microsoft Explorer and FireFox. Explorer is the only one that seems to format the page properly but still only allows for a maximum of two days access to the scheduler. I have an appointment for the NIE which I may just try and sneak in a residency review at that time .
@@DaysWeSpend thank you. Its just odd that I can only see one day at a time even with blockers turned off. In the NIE section I can see up through September. Anyway, thanks again for the video and concgrats, enjoy Spain, it's beautiful. I'm headed back the first week of November for a couple months
@@ArtfullyRogue For sure it's odd. We've talked to some experts and it's because the calendar doesn't populate unless there are available appointments. The only time you'll see more than a few days ahead is when the appointments have been loaded into the system. :)
Thank you for documenting this process! It was super helpful to hear all the details. Regarding making an appointment with the LA consulate, the website does not appear to be loading for me for the past few days. Would you be able to link the working website you used to get into the system and make an appointment?
Glad it was helpful. Here's the website. Scroll until you see the link for "cita previa". www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/losangeles/es/ServiciosConsulares/Paginas/index.aspx?scco=Estados+Unidos&scd=180&scca=Visados&scs=Visados+Nacionales+-+Visado+de+residencia+no+lucrativa
@@DaysWeSpend Thank you. Yes that's the link I've been trying - when I click on the "cita previa" link, it opens a new window that never loads for me. I've tried the last 4 days now. I don't see any form of other contact on the site either - phone number or email address to ask them about this.
Wonderful video! Thanks so much for putting this together. One question: We travel internationally a lot and timing is an issue if we have to leave our passports at the consulate until we are approved. Do we have to leave our passports or can we bring them back to the consulate once we are approved? Thanks!
Thanks for watching. We’ve heard that you can get your passport back if you prove you have a need for it. We didn’t do this, so we can’t speak to it personally.
Hey guys - I have a couple of questions, regarding translators: 1). How did you ultimately select one? Was it based on price? Location? 2) is the price you list for translation for both of you? Meaning, could one person expect to pay about half that amount? 3). Did you email electronic documents or mail hard copies to the translator? Thanks!
1. We emailed about 10 translators in the USA asking if they were available. The 2 that got back to us became our translators. 2. Yes, the price is for both of us. So that's double all the documents and some of it was extra for the rush fees. 3. One translator sent us hard copies and we had to scan them and print copies. Another translator emailed us his scans and we had to color print them ourselves. Good luck!
I am so jealous of you guys! Looks like the digital nomad visa will be out this year and allow me to work remotely and live in spain and with a better tax situation. I'm going to watch you guys and learn from your experience. Where are you going?
Hello again 🙂 well I have another question. The fees, when filling out form 790-052, is it only for the resident permit "processing fee" of $12? I haven't found anywhere on that form or any other form that allows you to add in the $140 visa fee. Do I just need to fill out form 790-052 that only shows the $12 but bring the money order for $152 that includes both? On a side note, through there appointment roulette system 😉 I managed to score a date in mid September. Thanks again for all you help. Maybe if we meet in Spain someday, drinks on me 🙂
You’ll include both on the same form and money order. Congratulations on getting a date! Let us know how the appointment goes. We’ll definitely take you up on drinks in Spain someday!
Hi and thank you for your informative video. I am a bit hesitant about sending all my information to a translator that is out of town of the state. Is it really safe to share the documents that have the name, address, DOB and Social Security with them? I also understand that there is no way around it.
Your concerns are totally valid. However, sworn translators need special licenses and certificates to do their job. So, we found everyone we worked with very trustworthy (almost like a notary). Anything we had to ship was done priority or first class.
Thank you for all the information. I’m going to start on the paperwork this week. For the marriage license do you each need an apostilled copy meaning you got 2 of them apostilled or just each need an oficial translated copy into Spanish? Thank you so much for the detailed video.
OMG this is such a long process, love the candy part at the end, wow what an expensive process to get to. How do I find out if they are doing the digital nomad version that might happen in 2023?
Thanks for watching. The digital nomad visa just started early this year. Each consulate will list if they process them and what you need. Here's the link for the LA consulate: www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/losangeles/es/ServiciosConsulares/Paginas/index.aspx?scco=Estados+Unidos&scd=180&scca=Visados&scs=Visado+de+residencia+para+teletrabajo+(n%c3%b3mada+digital)
Have a question. You said if you stay 5 years you can apply for reaidency.luckily if you were born in a latin american country or any other former colony of spain you can apply for citizenship in 2 years and im interested in trying this. But here is my conundrum. I live in the u.s and have both a u.s and a. Latin american passport. My latin am passport. Has my birth name and my u.s passport has my legal name which i changed to when i naturalized. If i were to apply for this. Visa keeping in mind i later want the spanish citizenship which passport would i use? Im worried the name discrepancy can affect something if i use the u.s passport. But the bank acount statements would use my legal american name. Any advice?
Honestly, that’s a great question. I doubt that it would be a problem if it was kept in a trading account (aka “not income”) but you’d want to talk to an expert for that.
Thank you for the very informative and fun videos! Question for you, which documents need to be apostilled and which need to be translated? The Counsulate web site is not very clear on this
Insurance question. When you found the company you liked, how did you pay? Were you able to wire monet from a US bank? Or did you need to have a Spanish bank account? Without a NIE how did you get the Spanish bank account if that's how you needed to pay for the insurance? Thanks.
Our initial insurance payment was through Wise. Essentially, we connected it to our American bank account to wire the money abroad. Now that we have our Spanish bank account, our insurance renewal was done via IBAN transfer. We didn't get our Spanish bank account until we had a NIE. We were using Wise and N26 until we got our NIE.
Ok cool. I was just curious. I have someone in Spain that paid via there bank account and then I paid them. Once I get my NIE, I switch it all over. To open you bank account, you only needed the NIE? The TIE wasn't required?@@DaysWeSpend
I wanted to say thanks for all of your help. I've started another UA-cam channel about my time in Spain and I also did a how to do the NLV process video series. In there I mentioned you guys and your channel in my description. I hope that cool. If not, I can remove it. Here's the linkua-cam.com/video/3-ZwKddqd8k/v-deo.html @@DaysWeSpend
Very detailed and informative. Quick question about the background check. Did you have to get it notarized before or after the Apostille and translation? or not at ll? It's hard to tell based on the consulate requirements.
Also, how long did it take to have the background check Apostille completed? I'm thinking about using the same service and am curious about the turnaround.
Thanks for watching. You don't need to notarize the background check. The Apostille is essentially a notarization. Our background check was done in 5 days or so (for the digital version). It took about 5 weeks for us to get our Apostille back.
Happy for both of you! I am from LA too and applying for NLV, now the Spanish consular services website does provide you with NLV application form link however the link is not working, it shows that the page is not found, just curious if anyone has run into this same situation, is there a different ways to get this application?
We found this version online: www.exteriores.gob.es/DocumentosAuxiliaresSC/Estados%20Unidos/LOS%20%C3%81NGELES%20(C)/Solicitud%20de%20visado%20nacional.pdf It looks like an older scan but it's the same application.
I have a question? You said you cannot have any mortgages however if one has mortgages on rental properties that produce Positive income and have small mortgages then that should be ok right?
Technically you can have a mortgage, but you have to prove you have a HUGE amount of funds to cover it. It's much more difficult to get approved if you have one. We recommend talking to an expert to make sure you qualify. Marina at Bureaucracy.es is great: ua-cam.com/video/YjgtYJjWcHE/v-deo.htmlsi=dcb0Lo6Bvg8sUTKt
No. It needs to be within a very specific period of time and sent in to the Apostille and then officially translated. Spain is very specific and it's better to just re-do the process the way Spain wants it done. Good luck!
Thank you! We used our American numbers on the forms. We got our Spanish numbers after we moved. The only thing this affected was getting our TIE. You can see more about that here: ua-cam.com/video/fODyqC19-to/v-deo.html
Question on the 790 052 fee form: the Los Angeles consulate website for NLV has a link to the electronic form but I can’t use it because I don’t have a NIE number yet. Did you both fill out a pdf version? Where did you get it???? Love your video and thanks so much for sharing 😀
@@DaysWeSpend hmmm, webpage form now has tax id / foreigner id as a required field and it’s impossible to get past “obtain document“ button at bottom of online form. Maybe the page has been updated from when you did it. Can you share link you used?
@@travelingfish9333 www.inclusion.gob.es/documents/410169/2156469/01-Formulario_residencia_no_lucrativa.pdf We don't have the link we used since the weblinks changed. Here's one we found by googling "EX-01 Spain." If you have issues filling it out online, print it and do it by hand.
We just successfully completed our appointment at the Los Angeles Consulate yesterday 10 July 2024 !🎉 The 790 052 Tasa form online didn’t work for first time NLV applicants so we found this (updated) pdf version online… link below… the consulate employee only needed page one from us plus the money order which was $152 USD for USA citizens. Hope this clarifies for others…. Good luck to all and thanks so much for your video and tips! www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/londres/en/ServiciosConsulares/Documents/Formulario%20790-052.pdf 🇪🇸😀
Great video and information! Question, how does it work if you earn anything from UA-cam, for example? Is that in a "grey zone" that does not count as "remote work"? I know this is the situation in other countries, but curious about how it is seen through this specific visa. Thank you and enjoy Spain!
Could you please clarify about the requirement for getting health insurance for Spain.... Do you have to buy a years insurance before your NLV application is accepted? What would happen if the application is rejected? How does the start date of the insurance work if there are delays in getting to Spain? Thanks so much.
We had to buy a year of insurance before we were accepted. We're not sure what happens if you are rejected. Perhaps is possible to get a refund through your health insurance broker. When you apply for health insurance (through a broker), they help you with the start date. You can probably move the date with them if you have issues.
Was there a requirement to have accommodations reserved? i.e. lease or airnon? I was looking at Portugal, they require 12 month lease in place for 1st appt.
There is no requirement for the first step of the NLV. Now that we're here, we need to register for the NLV with a one year lease. The application has a space for an address, but you only need to put the city.
That’s a tough one. I’d say to at least have a call. It depends on how much translation you need and what your specific financial situation is. Always worth a quick chat with a pro to see where you’re at.
i have applied to the San Francisco consulate, with my NLV and all the documents necessary, it was suppose to get there July 15-19th but due to weather arrived the 22nd i asked if it was a problem the only response was "No worries"--- how long did it take to get an actual appointment with the Consulate or confirmation code stating you were approved to to check the process? as San Fran may be different then LA and they did not have a choose our own date for appointment option, or any confirmation code they have received my package
SF and LA consulates are very different. We booked our appointment online and received a confirmation email. It took us about a month of trying before we found an available appointment. LA emails the approval notification and gives you a date to pick up the visa.
Los Angeles Consulate asks for a copy of your last tax return. The 1040 is the only part they need. "Attach bank statements for the last three months and a copy of the last tax return."
We did it ourselves but after talking with Marina it would have cost about the same and been way easier to go with professional help. Either way works, but using a pro is a lot less stressful. Check out Marina with Bureaucracy.es. She’s the best.
That took us 5 days to get the FBI background check. We used an expedited service accuratebiometrics.com/. Then it took us 5 weeks to get the Apostille with an expedited service. fbiapostilleservices.com/
@@DaysWeSpend Hello there, I'm working on getting my NLV as well, and let me tell you guys it is tedious. Question, two weeks? really? with an expedite service? I sent my criminal record to DC to get the apostille and they told me on the phone that it will take 12 weeks, literally 3 months. So when you guys say two week, Im like wow!
@@JoseEspinoza-mm8qy Hi Jose, it's Lainey. We answered the question incorrectly (I just corrected the answer). It took us 5 weeks to get the Apostille with an expedited service. We were able to send the digital copy to the expedite service and he brought it to the Apostille office. He also retrieved it and shipped it to us overnight. fbiapostilleservices.com/
We visited many different rental offices with our bank statements in hand. We kept trying until we met a rental agent who was willing to advocate for us. We have more details in this video: ua-cam.com/video/PYfKFHSYiSU/v-deo.html
We used this video as a guide for seeking our NLV from the Los Angeles Consulate. This video was extremely useful. In general, I found the actual interview to be way less stringent than this video implied it would be(I'm not complaining!). I was way over prepared for the interview, they only needed about half of the info that I had prepared. Even though we are clearly at retirement age, the consulate really seemed eager to see a notarized letter of intent confirming we had no intention of working in Spain. Also, they only wanted enough proof of IPREM income to confirm the minimum, no need to confirm absolutely every penny from every account that you have. The emphasis of having everything stamped seemed to be exaggerated, too; just a good translation seemed to be enough. We were the only people there the whole time. There was no one there before us or after us, that seemed strange since there were appointments available at ten minute intervals when we booked ours. The interviewer was super friendly, frankly, we thought it was easy. Best of luck to everyone.
Wow! Sounds like you had a great experience. From what we’ve heard, it varies so much. Thanks for sharing your story; it’s so helpful to hear from others. Good luck with the rest of your move to Spain!
How long was your fbi back ground check go for before getting your appointment ?
is it 3 months ?
Yeah the FBI check was the biggest hassle and took the longest time. We sent the documents to the FBI and waited a month before starting the process for the other documents that the Visa requires. I got mine directly from the FBI, but my wife had problems because her finger prints were not clear enough. She eventually got an acceptable background check (the 3rd set of prints submitted were accepted) from the DOJ of our state(California). The state background check was much faster than the FBI check. I don't think that every Spanish consulate will accept a state background check, however. The copies of our marriage license expired before we could get an appointment with the consulate, so we had to get those twice. Got them back with the apostle from Nevada with about 10 days to spare before the Visa appointment.
The consulates have wizened up to the amount of time that it takes to get the FBI background check apostilled, so now they are allowing 5 months for that one piece. Lucky for us. - Great video!
Oh that’s awesome. That deadline was super tight (and stressful). Glad to hear they’re adapting to the times. Thanks for watching!
@caroleloomis1430 Is this for the Los Angeles Consulate? Did they say you can bring it at a later date? Thanks
Hey there,
Just saw your video in one of the Facebook groups!
As an Immigration Consultant, I have to say you guys are champions!
Getting through the Spanish Consulate in LA is pretty tough, especially when you want to apply between July and October (that's the busiest period in the Spanish Consulates in the US). Well done indeed!
As a tip from me, should you plan on renewing your NLVs, open up a Spanish bank account and transfer the funds for years 2 and 3 there (minimum funds are x2 the ones for the initial NLV - keep that in mind) - getting proof of funds from a Spanish bank account is much easier + it is all in Spanish + most banks already know they have to stamp everything.
Enjoy España!
Thank you so much and thanks for sharing your advice. That's really helpful. :)
We're at the very beginning of our move to Spain dream and are sitting here in Vancouver while binge watching your videos. Super informative and extremely helpful...just wanted to say thanks!
Thank you so much! Good luck with your Spain dream. You can do it!
Thank you for taking the time to shoot and edit this video. Sounds nerve wracking, but not as bad as applying for an American visa. I have a friend from Costa Rica and in that American consulate people can only apply for a tourist visa once every 6 months and I've heard that some of the consulate workers behind the windows can be pretty condescending. Even though it was stressful for you two, I think you'll enjoy your time in Europe. There's no mass shootings, people value quality of life over breathing and living just to work. Hope you have a wonderful time.
Thanks for watching. We've been loving our time here. It's worth all the stress and bureaucracy.
Ooph, the Costa Rica consulate sounds so stressful!
This was such a satisfying video. I love the detail and humour. I can feel your excitement and relief. Thanks for the awesome content and story. Staying tuned...
Thank you so much!
Congratulations to you both! I just renew my non lucrative visa and I did it in Galicia where i am registered (empadronado). It was very very fast (less than 1 week of approval). I hope you decide to stay longer! It is funny and weird to see americans struggle with all the visa process
Thanks so much! We're going through the renewal process right now.... waiting to hear back about our visa. Did you renew in person or online?
@@DaysWeSpend I did it online. But I decided to hire a lawyer who helped me submit all the paperwork. It was 300 euros. I think it totally worth it for mental peace. I didn't have to worry about anything. I had it 1 week later (Oct 23- 30th). Then, i got an appoint at the police station in Santa Uxia de Ribeira to renew the TIE. There weren't appointments in the. web. I called to the Police Station and they booked directly. But I had to wait my TIE expired (Nov 10th). By Dec 14th, I had my new TIE. The magic of Galicia compared to other crowded cities like Madrid or Barcelona. Reached me if you want more tips. Happy to help! Continue your journey!!
Congrats on getting your NLV! I applied for mine in late November 2021, and my experience was similar to yours. I even spent about the same amount on translations! The main differences for me included being able to get my background check/apostille from Colorado (this took 2.5 weeks) since I had lived there for more than the previous five years, and I did not have to get my 1040 tax forms translated. (I asked the L.A. consulate beforehand, and they explicitly told me I did not need to get them translated.)
It also took seven weeks for my NLV application to be approved instead of two weeks for the two of you. Maybe they are getting faster!
Enjoy Ourense! I am in Pontevedra, which is also in Galicia. I love it here!
Thank you so much! Your blog post helped us so much.
We're loving Galicia. :) When we visit Pontevedra, it would be fun to meet you in person.
@@DaysWeSpend Yes, please drop me a line if when you come and visit Pontevedra! I’d love to meet up!
@@FelixWong_com Will do!
Excellent video. Important details mixed in with a little humor. Me gusta!
Thank you very much!
Thank you very helpful. My appointment is coming up in March.
Glad to help. Buena suerte!
04:20 ,As a curiosity, remember that in Europe the dates are ordered day/month/year and the hours of the day go from 0 to 24, not in groups of 12 am or pm.
That's correct. We put all the dates and times in the US standard since many people watching this are applying for visas from the USA.
I'm feelin it lol. Great info, thank you!
Thanks!
Very helpful video. Thanks. It would be really helpful (and reassuring) to see how the application forms look when they are filled-in/completed. For example, it would be good to see/know if you provided a full address of where you will be living in Spain (you can black this out of course) or if you just listed the city/province.
Thanks so much. That's a really great idea for another video. We'll work on an EX-01 video with full instructions. We just listed the city/province (or left if blank).
This was really helpful and detailed. Best video I've seen. I thought you needed a rental agreement in order to apply fro the visa. Do you not have to provide information on accommodation? So basically, I should select an appointment ~3 month out correct, and start working on everything?
Thank you! The rental agreement requirement is dependent on your consulate. In Los Angeles, we didn't need to have a rental agreement. We didn't provide any accommodation information except the city we moved to.
3 months is usually the correct amount of time to get all your paperwork together, especially since stuff expires.
@@DaysWeSpend Thanks for responded. You literally responded "while" I'm watching your latest video on "costs to eat out"..haha.
At what point do you have to give up your passport? Is this the day you have your appointment? I am traveling for the next few months and need my passport but wanted to start the process and just seeing if I have to wait to get back from Turkey. Thanks again and keep up the videos. You guys are great.!
@@ninobk196 Lol, that's so funny! For the NLV process, it's best to officially start it once you are back from your travels (if you are gone for more than 3 months). Until then, you can familiarize yourself with everything. Get in contact with translators, contact your banks.
@@ninobk196 HA! You give up your passport during your appointment and you get it back when you pick up the visa. :)
Getting the appointment is the biggest pain so far. I live in Arizona, and when I log into the consulate calendar for appointments, I can only see today's date and tomorrows date (if its after 3pm) there isn't an option to search a month in advance....that would make too much sense. Has anyone else had this issue? Or is there a better browser that allows you to sent a month into the appointment future? Great video and tips ! Congrats to both of you! Spain is amazing!
We haven't heard of this issue before, but the website does break often. Maybe try other browsers, we used Chrome. But really, try other times of day, every day. The appointments will only show up if they are available, otherwise the site looks super broken. Good luck!
@@DaysWeSpend thanks for the response. Yeah, I've tried Chrome, Microsoft Explorer and FireFox. Explorer is the only one that seems to format the page properly but still only allows for a maximum of two days access to the scheduler. I have an appointment for the NIE which I may just try and sneak in a residency review at that time .
Keep trying. We had to disable all our privacy and ad blocking on Chrome. Then the site worked much better.
@@DaysWeSpend thank you. Its just odd that I can only see one day at a time even with blockers turned off. In the NIE section I can see up through September. Anyway, thanks again for the video and concgrats, enjoy Spain, it's beautiful. I'm headed back the first week of November for a couple months
@@ArtfullyRogue For sure it's odd. We've talked to some experts and it's because the calendar doesn't populate unless there are available appointments. The only time you'll see more than a few days ahead is when the appointments have been loaded into the system. :)
Thank you for documenting this process! It was super helpful to hear all the details.
Regarding making an appointment with the LA consulate, the website does not appear to be loading for me for the past few days. Would you be able to link the working website you used to get into the system and make an appointment?
Glad it was helpful. Here's the website. Scroll until you see the link for "cita previa". www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/losangeles/es/ServiciosConsulares/Paginas/index.aspx?scco=Estados+Unidos&scd=180&scca=Visados&scs=Visados+Nacionales+-+Visado+de+residencia+no+lucrativa
@@DaysWeSpend Thank you. Yes that's the link I've been trying - when I click on the "cita previa" link, it opens a new window that never loads for me. I've tried the last 4 days now. I don't see any form of other contact on the site either - phone number or email address to ask them about this.
@@jaspers4517 Have you asked anybody on the facebook groups if they also have this issue? sometimes, the websites just break for a while.
Thank you!
Happy to help. Buena suerte!
@@DaysWeSpend Gracias! One question that may be impertinent, but just between us, would your earnings of this channel be considered income?
We don’t make enough for it to worry us (yet). We think it can be classified as passive income, which is ok to have on the nlv.
Wonderful video! Thanks so much for putting this together. One question: We travel internationally a lot and timing is an issue if we have to leave our passports at the consulate until we are approved. Do we have to leave our passports or can we bring them back to the consulate once we are approved? Thanks!
Thanks for watching. We’ve heard that you can get your passport back if you prove you have a need for it. We didn’t do this, so we can’t speak to it personally.
I recall hearing you saying that you were married in one of your road trip videos but when did you get married? Did I miss a video? Congratulations 🎉
Thank you! We got married in November 2021. We didn’t make a video about it since it was a very small courthouse ceremony.
Hey guys - I have a couple of questions, regarding translators: 1). How did you ultimately select one? Was it based on price? Location? 2) is the price you list for translation for both of you? Meaning, could one person expect to pay about half that amount? 3). Did you email electronic documents or mail hard copies to the translator? Thanks!
1. We emailed about 10 translators in the USA asking if they were available. The 2 that got back to us became our translators.
2. Yes, the price is for both of us. So that's double all the documents and some of it was extra for the rush fees.
3. One translator sent us hard copies and we had to scan them and print copies. Another translator emailed us his scans and we had to color print them ourselves.
Good luck!
@@DaysWeSpend Muchas gracias!
I am so jealous of you guys! Looks like the digital nomad visa will be out this year and allow me to work remotely and live in spain and with a better tax situation. I'm going to watch you guys and learn from your experience. Where are you going?
Thanks! Let us know how the digital nomad visa experience goes. We’re super interested. We’re heading to Ourense, Galicia. :)
Are you going to do a video on the process to get your TIE? That would be so helpful to know what you went through to acquire one. Gracias!
Yes! We have that video planned for soon. We’re waiting for our cards to arrive, then we’ll finish the video. :)
@@DaysWeSpend Muchas gracias!
Here’s our TIE video: How to Get Your TIE for the Non-Lucrative Spanish Visa (NLV)
ua-cam.com/video/fODyqC19-to/v-deo.html
Hello again 🙂 well I have another question. The fees, when filling out form 790-052, is it only for the resident permit "processing fee" of $12? I haven't found anywhere on that form or any other form that allows you to add in the $140 visa fee. Do I just need to fill out form 790-052 that only shows the $12 but bring the money order for $152 that includes both? On a side note, through there appointment roulette system 😉 I managed to score a date in mid September. Thanks again for all you help. Maybe if we meet in Spain someday, drinks on me 🙂
You’ll include both on the same form and money order. Congratulations on getting a date! Let us know how the appointment goes. We’ll definitely take you up on drinks in Spain someday!
Hi and thank you for your informative video. I am a bit hesitant about sending all my information to a translator that is out of town of the state. Is it really safe to share the documents that have the name, address, DOB and Social Security with them? I also understand that there is no way around it.
Your concerns are totally valid. However, sworn translators need special licenses and certificates to do their job. So, we found everyone we worked with very trustworthy (almost like a notary). Anything we had to ship was done priority or first class.
@@DaysWeSpend Thank you so much.
Thank you for all the information. I’m going to start on the paperwork this week. For the marriage license do you each need an apostilled copy meaning you got 2 of them apostilled or just each need an oficial translated copy into Spanish? Thank you so much for the detailed video.
We each had our own certificate apostilled and translated. Good luck with your visa!
OMG this is such a long process, love the candy part at the end, wow what an expensive process to get to. How do I find out if they are doing the digital nomad version that might happen in 2023?
Thanks for watching. The digital nomad visa just started early this year. Each consulate will list if they process them and what you need. Here's the link for the LA consulate: www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/losangeles/es/ServiciosConsulares/Paginas/index.aspx?scco=Estados+Unidos&scd=180&scca=Visados&scs=Visado+de+residencia+para+teletrabajo+(n%c3%b3mada+digital)
Have a question. You said if you stay 5 years you can apply for reaidency.luckily if you were born in a latin american country or any other former colony of spain you can apply for citizenship in 2 years and im interested in trying this.
But here is my conundrum. I live in the u.s and have both a u.s and a. Latin american passport. My latin am passport. Has my birth name and my u.s passport has my legal name which i changed to when i naturalized. If i were to apply for this. Visa keeping in mind i later want the spanish citizenship which passport would i use? Im worried the name discrepancy can affect something if i use the u.s passport. But the bank acount statements would use my legal american name.
Any advice?
Good information. Can you trade stocks or options while having a non lucrative visa?
Honestly, that’s a great question. I doubt that it would be a problem if it was kept in a trading account (aka “not income”) but you’d want to talk to an expert for that.
Thank you for the very informative and fun videos! Question for you, which documents need to be apostilled and which need to be translated? The Counsulate web site is not very clear on this
Anything that is not in Spanish needs to be translated by a sworn translator. We apostilled our FBI background check and our marriage certificate
Thank you!
Insurance question. When you found the company you liked, how did you pay? Were you able to wire monet from a US bank? Or did you need to have a Spanish bank account? Without a NIE how did you get the Spanish bank account if that's how you needed to pay for the insurance? Thanks.
Our initial insurance payment was through Wise. Essentially, we connected it to our American bank account to wire the money abroad.
Now that we have our Spanish bank account, our insurance renewal was done via IBAN transfer. We didn't get our Spanish bank account until we had a NIE. We were using Wise and N26 until we got our NIE.
Ok cool. I was just curious. I have someone in Spain that paid via there bank account and then I paid them. Once I get my NIE, I switch it all over. To open you bank account, you only needed the NIE? The TIE wasn't required?@@DaysWeSpend
I wanted to say thanks for all of your help. I've started another UA-cam channel about my time in Spain and I also did a how to do the NLV process video series. In there I mentioned you guys and your channel in my description. I hope that cool. If not, I can remove it. Here's the linkua-cam.com/video/3-ZwKddqd8k/v-deo.html @@DaysWeSpend
Thanks for the shoutout. Good luck with your new channel!
Very detailed and informative. Quick question about the background check. Did you have to get it notarized before or after the Apostille and translation? or not at ll? It's hard to tell based on the consulate requirements.
Also, how long did it take to have the background check Apostille completed? I'm thinking about using the same service and am curious about the turnaround.
Thanks for watching. You don't need to notarize the background check. The Apostille is essentially a notarization. Our background check was done in 5 days or so (for the digital version). It took about 5 weeks for us to get our Apostille back.
Happy for both of you! I am from LA too and applying for NLV, now the Spanish consular services website does provide you with NLV application form link however the link is not working, it shows that the page is not found, just curious if anyone has run into this same situation, is there a different ways to get this application?
We found this version online: www.exteriores.gob.es/DocumentosAuxiliaresSC/Estados%20Unidos/LOS%20%C3%81NGELES%20(C)/Solicitud%20de%20visado%20nacional.pdf
It looks like an older scan but it's the same application.
I have a question? You said you cannot have any mortgages however if one has mortgages on rental properties that produce Positive income and have small mortgages then that should be ok right?
Technically you can have a mortgage, but you have to prove you have a HUGE amount of funds to cover it. It's much more difficult to get approved if you have one. We recommend talking to an expert to make sure you qualify. Marina at Bureaucracy.es is great: ua-cam.com/video/YjgtYJjWcHE/v-deo.htmlsi=dcb0Lo6Bvg8sUTKt
Hi! Which type insurance policy you opted for? Thanks that was gr8 info. Cheers
We chose Adeslas. Thanks for watching.
I had to go through Federal background check to be TSA approved. Do you think that can be count as proof of background check?
No. It needs to be within a very specific period of time and sent in to the Apostille and then officially translated. Spain is very specific and it's better to just re-do the process the way Spain wants it done. Good luck!
Hi,
Great videos and information. If some application forms for the NLV it request a Spanish phone number. Did you have one?? And how did you get one?
Thank you! We used our American numbers on the forms. We got our Spanish numbers after we moved. The only thing this affected was getting our TIE. You can see more about that here: ua-cam.com/video/fODyqC19-to/v-deo.html
Thanks for your reply. Which mobile provider do you recommend?
We have Lobster since the customer service is in English. Other people prefer Orange.
@@DaysWeSpend Thank you!!
Question on the 790 052 fee form: the Los Angeles consulate website for NLV has a link to the electronic form but I can’t use it because I don’t have a NIE number yet. Did you both fill out a pdf version? Where did you get it????
Love your video and thanks so much for sharing 😀
Thanks so much. We filled out the linked form and printed it. We didn’t include the NIE and it was fine.
@@DaysWeSpend hmmm, webpage form now has tax id / foreigner id as a required field and it’s impossible to get past “obtain document“ button at bottom of online form. Maybe the page has been updated from when you did it. Can you share link you used?
@@travelingfish9333 www.inclusion.gob.es/documents/410169/2156469/01-Formulario_residencia_no_lucrativa.pdf
We don't have the link we used since the weblinks changed. Here's one we found by googling "EX-01 Spain." If you have issues filling it out online, print it and do it by hand.
We just successfully completed our appointment at the Los Angeles Consulate yesterday 10 July 2024 !🎉
The 790 052 Tasa form online didn’t work for first time NLV applicants so we found this (updated) pdf version online… link below… the consulate employee only needed page one from us plus the money order which was $152 USD for USA citizens. Hope this clarifies for others…. Good luck to all and thanks so much for your video and tips!
www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/londres/en/ServiciosConsulares/Documents/Formulario%20790-052.pdf
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That's awesome! Congratulations and good luck!
Great video and information! Question, how does it work if you earn anything from UA-cam, for example? Is that in a "grey zone" that does not count as "remote work"? I know this is the situation in other countries, but curious about how it is seen through this specific visa. Thank you and enjoy Spain!
We're not sure yet. Our earnings are not enough to worry us. We think that it will get classified as passive income.
@@DaysWeSpend thank you! We love your videos and overall vibes of you two 😊 Always bring a smile!
@@NotSoSeriousCouple
Could you please clarify about the requirement for getting health insurance for Spain.... Do you have to buy a years insurance before your NLV application is accepted? What would happen if the application is rejected? How does the start date of the insurance work if there are delays in getting to Spain? Thanks so much.
We had to buy a year of insurance before we were accepted. We're not sure what happens if you are rejected. Perhaps is possible to get a refund through your health insurance broker.
When you apply for health insurance (through a broker), they help you with the start date. You can probably move the date with them if you have issues.
thanks for replying!! love your channel.@@DaysWeSpend
@@hamospanish Thank you!
Was there a requirement to have accommodations reserved? i.e. lease or airnon? I was looking at Portugal, they require 12 month lease in place for 1st appt.
There is no requirement for the first step of the NLV. Now that we're here, we need to register for the NLV with a one year lease. The application has a space for an address, but you only need to put the city.
Hello if I have most of my documents would you suggest I still get professional help ?
That’s a tough one. I’d say to at least have a call. It depends on how much translation you need and what your specific financial situation is. Always worth a quick chat with a pro to see where you’re at.
Omg everyone I know who did the Camino is moving to either Spain or Portugal! I’m intrigued and thinking of doing the same. But the work thing……. 🤔
They’re great countries for a high quality of life. We saved up for our first year and we’ll figure something out for the future.
i have applied to the San Francisco consulate, with my NLV and all the documents necessary, it was suppose to get there July 15-19th but due to weather arrived the 22nd i asked if it was a problem the only response was "No worries"--- how long did it take to get an actual appointment with the Consulate or confirmation code stating you were approved to to check the process?
as San Fran may be different then LA and they did not have a choose our own date for appointment option, or any confirmation code they have received my package
SF and LA consulates are very different. We booked our appointment online and received a confirmation email. It took us about a month of trying before we found an available appointment. LA emails the approval notification and gives you a date to pick up the visa.
Can you have a mortgage at the SF office?
Sir can we travel to our home country after 6 months on Non Lucrative visa because Spanish Embassy issue 3 months visa.
If you have your TIE, yes. If not, then it's really difficult to get back to Spain.
Good grief. Thx you!
Thanks for watching!
Did you guys use two cover letters, for each of you or one?
We each had our own cover letter.
900 euro passive income month from rental & 25000-euro savings,
can I apply??
You should chat with an immigration lawyer. We have more info on our NLV Interview with an expert video. Check it out and see if it's right for you.
Why provide 1040 Taxes when it's not required on the list of items presented?
Los Angeles Consulate asks for a copy of your last tax return. The 1040 is the only part they need. "Attach bank statements for the last three months and a copy of the last tax return."
How did you get these documents translated if your in Los Angeles and the Translators are in Europe
You send them a scan so they can translate and mail you the official stamped version.
did you guys use professional help, or did you do it yourself?
We did it ourselves but after talking with Marina it would have cost about the same and been way easier to go with professional help. Either way works, but using a pro is a lot less stressful. Check out Marina with Bureaucracy.es. She’s the best.
How long did the Apostile take to get form DC? We thought we were ready to send it off but now this changed things.
That took us 5 days to get the FBI background check. We used an expedited service accuratebiometrics.com/. Then it took us 5 weeks to get the Apostille with an expedited service. fbiapostilleservices.com/
@@DaysWeSpend Hello there, I'm working on getting my NLV as well, and let me tell you guys it is tedious. Question, two weeks? really? with an expedite service? I sent my criminal record to DC to get the apostille and they told me on the phone that it will take 12 weeks, literally 3 months. So when you guys say two week, Im like wow!
@@JoseEspinoza-mm8qy Hi Jose, it's Lainey. We answered the question incorrectly (I just corrected the answer). It took us 5 weeks to get the Apostille with an expedited service. We were able to send the digital copy to the expedite service and he brought it to the Apostille office. He also retrieved it and shipped it to us overnight. fbiapostilleservices.com/
Do you have any tips on how to find an apartment since everyone require working certificates?
We visited many different rental offices with our bank statements in hand. We kept trying until we met a rental agent who was willing to advocate for us. We have more details in this video: ua-cam.com/video/PYfKFHSYiSU/v-deo.html
thank you guys
@@DaysWeSpend
Why are you moving to Spain ? Is it to teach English ?
We just really love walking the camino and want to experience more of the lifestyle in Spain. Gonna be a fun year!
I'm sorry but a ghost crossed your video at 0:19 .
Lol. Ghost…. Or reflection off a car?
How long after your interview you guys received your visa?
Ours were ready in 2 weeks. We got really lucky.
@@DaysWeSpend when you picked up your visa when was your visa beginning date?
@@pariazeydi706 Our visa start date was January 10. That's the date we requested in our application.
@@DaysWeSpend we are here in Valencia now😀we picked up our visa and left right away🙌
@@pariazeydi706 Wow!!! That's awesome.
I guess you've been told before that you look so much like a younger Cybill Shepherd.
Nice!