Best Cordless Tracksaw
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Best Cordless Tracksaw HEad-to-Head Comparison
"Best Value Saw" MAKITA - shrsl.com/2exzs
NOTE -
there was an error in the calculation for the Makita. It should be 180 watt-hours (2 packs x 5 Ah x 18 V = 180). It doesn't effect the final results, but does make Makita win the run-time category.
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Track Saw Lineup
This cordless track saw head-to-head includes 5 saws from; Bosch, DEWALT, Festool, Mafell, and Makita.
Bosch GKT 18V-20GC
DEWALT DCS520ST1
Festool TSC 55 REB
Mafell MT55 18M
Makita XPS02PTJ
Best Track Saw Evaluation Format
For this evaluation, we broke things into several categories including Precision & Quality of Cut, Performance (runtime/power), Features, Ergonomics, and price. We also point out the “best-value” saw. For each of these categories, we’ll rank the saws and in the end, we’ll name the Best Portable Cordless Track Saw based on all the results combined.
Precision & Quality of Cut - In this category we evaluated the accuracy of the track saws and how easy it is to make adjustments. We also discuss the quality of the cut the saws produced.
Run-time- Lots of Pro’s think run-time is important. The performance evaluation took a very deep dive into the power of the saw motors and how well the saws managed ripping thick plywood material.
Features - An overall comparison of features and specifications.
Ergonomics - Ergonomics are really important to users and an important category to consider when purchasing any power tool. In addition to traditional ergonomics, we also included functionality in this category.
Price - Price is always an important factor in determining which saw is best for a user. We’ve included the current pricing found online for each of the saws “as-tested,” at the time of publication.
Best Cordless Track Saw Features
Before we present the testing results, it’s helpful to set the stage by listing all the features and specifications for comparison. Specific differences in the saws are listed below.
Bosch GKT 18V-20GC
140 mm blade
42 tooth blade
20 mm arbor
5500 rpm
Swiveling dust hose port and a lock-off mechanism
Overload protection
Electric brake
Single pivot-point for both bevel and non-bevel cuts, from -1° (for slight undercuts) to +47° cuts
Easy blade-change system - quick three-step blade swap with spindle lock and on-board hex key
Constant electronics to help maintain speed under load.
DEWALT DCS520ST1
This saw can run on the Makita, Festool, and Triton tracks
6.5” blade
42 tooth blade
20 mm arbor
1,750-4,000 rpm
Electric brake
On-track cut depth: 2-1/8 in. @90 degrees and 1-5/8 in. @ 45 degrees ;
Continuous anti-kickback mechanism and riving knife prevent kickback when engaged
“Straight plunge” linkage mechanism for optimal ergonomics
Dual edged tracks
60-volt Flexvolt battery 6.0 Ah
Festool TSC 55
TSC 55 Li 5,2 REBI-F-Set/XL-FS
160 mm blade
48 tooth blade
20 mm arbor
2,650-5,200 rpm
Electric brake
Cutting depth 2-⅛” at 90° and 1-11/16” at 45°
Depth of cut scale has indicators for use with or without a guide rail
Splinterguards on both sides of the blade
Angular range -1 - 47 °
Dual Voltage 18/36 volt [will cut with one battery]
Comes with a dust bag
Mafell MT55 18M
MT55 18M
162 mm blade
48 tooth blade
20 mm arbor
4850 rpm
Cut capacity - 57mm (2-1/4”) at 90 degrees and 40.5mm (1 -5/8”) at 45 degrees
The saw can run on Makita/Festool/Triton tracks in addition to Mafell and Bosch tracks.
Bevel range = -1 degree and +48 degrees
1mm depth adjustments and depth indicator reverse for on-track or off-track plunge cutting.
Scoring function for cuts that must be tear-free on both sides such as cutting down doors. Scoring cutting depth is 2.5mm and offset slightly from the cut line. Score. Then deactivate the scoring function and then perform the parting cut.
Electronic riving knife.
Makita XPS01PTJ
XPS01PTJ
6.5” blade
55 tool blade
20 mm arbor
2,500-6,300 rpm
1.39 mm kerf
18V X2 - brushless. Drains both batteries at the same time. Will not run off 1 battery
VS setting - 2,500 to 6,300 [5 settings]
Cut capacity - 2-3/16” at 90 degrees and 1 -9/16” at 45 degree
Cut 11/16” from wall
Bevel -1 degree and +48 degrees [2 levers at saw baseplate for -1 and black lever for 48 degrees]
Positive stops at 22.5 and 45. 22.5 positive stop bypass
Line of sight - 90 and 45 detents [off track]
Auto speed change technology - adjust speed and torque
Mode indicator - solid green light at battery gauge in high torque mode. Blinks green when overloaded
Electric brake
Soft start motor
Quick stop scoring button [near handle] - 2-3mm score cut.
An anti-tip lever at the baseplate
2 knobs adjust baseplate in slide
Swivel dust port 1-3/8 ID and 1-3/4 OD. Dust bag extra
Blue tooth auto-start wireless system (AWS™) enables wireless power-on/power-off with an AWS-equipped dust extractor
Best tool reviews around. No nonsense just professionals using the machines and giving their 2 cents. Nice work Rob and rest of the crew
Thanks
Nice Video! Sorry for chiming in, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you tried - Schallingora Dexterous Programme Scheme (do a google search)? It is a good exclusive product for building any shed in no time with no experience minus the normal expense. Ive heard some interesting things about it and my cooworker got excellent success with it.
Kevin, you said it all. Not much to be said beyond that other than sure hope Milwaukee enters the ring sometime soon. My hope is that they'll take all of the best aspects of these saws and incorporate their own innovations and make an outstanding saw that'll work with their 18V platform.
I dont mean to be offtopic but does anybody know a tool to log back into an Instagram account..?
I was stupid lost the password. I would love any assistance you can give me
@Tyler Kieran Instablaster =)
VCG needs to take note...this is how you do tool reviews
Yes!
No shit, vcg just shills Milwaukee
VCG got rolled up by Milwaukee. They threw him in the trunk of the Caddy (Cadillac) and took him to the bridge - “ come work for us or your taking a long swim.” They gave him a few red hats and a free set of batteries, returned the orange buckets and #2 50 lb bags of ready mix and all was forgotten! haha
YO WHAT'S UP EVERYBODY MY NAME IS VINCE
Don’t be too hard on VCG is different bull just diff . Nothing bad except the videos r soo long nobody stays to watch the end .. plus time to time I like to c what happen w a tool when falls out of the roof😂
The greatest tool comparison I've ever seen! Finally on par with tech reviews. How is it that I'm only now discovering this channel?!?!?
It's amazing, right? Turns out carpenters and machinists *love* using a superior tool and will watch lots of YT vids to see who is best.
I’m a sucker for dewalt. ONLY because I have the batteries. But their saws are sub par so I am moving on from the now after decades of use. I am starting to get on board on buying all different brands instead of sticking to one for battery use. Having the tool that best fits the job is more important to me now than sharing battlers. This has by far been the most useful tool video I have ever seen since UA-cam’s inception. It not only helped me decide which saw I will buy (Mafell) but it also opened my eyes to a useful change in tool purchases ie having no need to stay faithful to a tools BRAND just for name and sharing batteries sake. Thank you so much.
Thank you, after 3 weeks of trying to figure out my track saw choice... Makita, oddly enough most of my tools are already Makita, I rarely have any problems with them. Awesome reviews!
One of the VERY BEST channels on youtube. Polite, pro and with a friendly attitude.
You can save a few bucks if you want the Mafell saw by buying Bosch-branded rails/connectors and Metabo-branded batteries. They’re the same exact product but with different names on them.
You really added a valuable comment to the head to head review taking place over here, thanks guy
especially the more compact metabo 4ah cells, fits perfect with my 18v mafell mt55
What about metabo tracks? They advertaise them as suitable for other saw brands.
@@jankowalski-yy2uo Metabo tracks are not the same as Bosch or Mafell but can be used on Mafell saws
@@17091996climber i have recieved official mail grom Metabo service that they will work with new ftools grom festool, Bosch, mafell and few other. And now I am waiting for another mail that will answer for my detailed questions.
You guys and Project Farm are the best too reviewers around. Great content, you guys are helping many people make better decisions, turn out better work and save money. Thanks for helping us avoid the headache of buying the wrong tools.
I love project farm
I bought the Makita about a month ago with a 55” and 110” track ... it has absolutely been an exceptional tool for my needs ... very intuitive as you stated ... loved the comparison test ... outstanding content and commentary ...
actual pro tools, actual pro review, and no lazy affiliate link to amazon - subscribed!
thanks WELCOME!
I don't think I'll ever need to buy a tracksaw, but I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I love your testing methods and the depth of testing. As always, great work!
Have you tried a track saw? It will impress you. It can perform most of the things a table saw can do except balancing the track on material, or ripping 2".
Thanks for commenting
If you ever do buy one u 💯 will not regret it there’s so much u can do with a track saw couldn’t imagine not having one now ultimately it makes woodworking simple and more efficient
THIS is how you do a "Best of" comparison. Excellent work!
Thx
You guys are the best on UA-cam bar none for power tool video content.
Thank for you for the crazy effort you have gone too!!!
Thumbs up
I've had the cordless Festool, the corded Makita, and just upgraded to the cordless Mafell in February. If you're a pro dont even bother with the rest, the Mafell is a whole different class of tool and worth every penny. For everyone else, corded or Cordless, the Makita is a fantastic value.
That's the info what I watched this entire video for.....THANK YOU! I think these UA-cam pro's get a little bit too concerned with establishing their credibility as professionals, rather than just giving the fundamental info most viewers are after.
Bosch and Makita makes some nice stuff but I feel like I’m using kids toys when using them. The ugly green Makita color. And same with the Bosch especially there tool boxes. Just give me simple good looking colors.
@@davelowesky8054 makita is blue...or did I get color blind? Also, who cares about the color???
I just do it for fun and just got the 40 v Makita. DAMN that thing is nice. I would love to play with a Mafell!
Awesome Test as Always!!! Learned a lot and we shared it around with our staff for some of your insights. Only thing not really emphasized that much with Mafell (which we don't sell) is batteries are part of the CAS battery platform which uses Metabo 18V LiHD batteries. Some comments here about not being compatible with anything but there are a lot of great Metabo drill, impacts, vacs, lights and other tool options which mean you can have compatibility with more readily available professional tools. Just something to consider for those really wanting to get a Mafell, again we don't sell it so not sure why I'm trying to make their case but sometimes you just want what you want.
Great point - that may have been covered int he article
Rockstar review as expected guys. We greatly appreciate all the work your team puts into these mega-reviews. Keep'em coming!
Bought hte Makita on a whim because i needed it ASAP for a job - perfect decision.
Makita SP6000J is just as good as the Festool. Festool pay better for reviews thou....
i don't buy a tool without seeing a review from you first, seriously! Thanks!
First of all your comparison is amazing. Really good job!
I recently recieved my Bosch GKT 18V version 3 and agree with most of your rankings. However, Bosch listened to the customers and changed a few things.
For example they stiffened the track adjustment slider and now its not likely anymore to change the adjustment by accident.
Also i realized you used the "old" 6Ah battery pack. I dont know how far this affects the results, but the maximum power (around 1600W) can only be reached with the new ProCore batterys 5.5Ah, 8Ah or 12Ah.
Greetings from Germany!
Very comprehensive test I have the Mafell myself but mains powered, it’s just a dream to use expensive but it’s a no mistake saw. Well done lads 👍
I've got the corded version aswell, it's the crown jewel of my saws. Even after 5 years of owning it, I still get excited and impressed every time I use it.
So useful having you guys testing and giving us a honest feedback. Tools an't cheap so great to get a insight before we pay out. Then be disappointed. Trust your reviews. And Appreciate all the time it takes for these videos to be put together. Cheers guys. 🏴💪
Great review guys!
3 yrs ago I bought the Makita, just for the batteries.
Home depot had it on clearance for 300 with 4 batteries,and the 55' track.
I've since added the 118,and the 39.
Now working at a cabinet shop that has a festool tsc75.
The festool feels more refined, but has the cord which cancels that out.
Having only used corded festool, and cordless makita.
The plunge is softer on the festool, but i love cordless for installing cabinets on-site.
Great testing, as always. I used a cordless makita tracksaw for quite a while doing higher-end jobsite carpentry and it was so solid. The only downside I could find, after using it for months on end, was the weight of it with the double 6 amp-hr batteries (IIRC). It started to aggravate my wrist and shoulder putting it off and on the track to line up cuts. That would be in the "long-term ergonomics" category, I guess... but I would probably buy it again, and try to run on lower-power batteries for most cuts to keep the weight down. Hope that 2c is useful for anyone out there.
Thanks for posting, very helpful !
Your comparison reviews are the best out there. Really appreciate the time, and care that goes into these.
Great information. I am buying a track for my hobby of woodworking. I cannot afford the Festool or the MaFell so I am greatly surprised to hear that the Makita did so well. That is what I keep coming back to in my research. You have helped me make my decision.
Love my corded Mafell saw. Get a rail square whatever brand you go with, it was a game changer for me.
Corded makes sense, cordless not so much cause I don't have or have never even seen another mafell tool on a job site so battery would be just for that tool. I'm going to look into the corded version though.
@@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast They run on Metabo (not the Hitachi one, but real Metabo) batteries. Metabo started CAS (Cordless Alliance Sytem) and there's 16+ different brands running their batteries. Though I don't know if this is mostly Europe or also N-America.
hairsonabobbin The Steinel finally came out as a Metabo. The collomix came here as a Metabo. The rockamatt maybe. Eisenblatter barely has products here (all rebranded I believe). Otherwise, just the Mafell stuff is here. Metabo distribution is pretty shit-tastic here. That’s ok, all but two of my cordless Metabo tools are worthless junk. 😂. I have a KSS40 and I’m super ok with carrying batts just for it. 🤘
Finally got all my components in today for my new Makita, 2-55” tracks, track soft case, clamps, connector kit, 2- 5ah batteries, dual charger, hard cases.... ready to cut the rubber and start enjoying not having to bring my table saw to my rental properties.
Thanks for posting, you hit the nail on the head for many of us, I would think.
Good to see the Mafell getting a review in English! I've got the corded version, and its a absolute beast! 👀 and their rail locking system is really good too, compared to the faffing about you need to do to join some rails together....
I have the corded and cordless Makita"s. I've even started using the cordless on framing jobs. Near perfect cuts and i can trust my helper to make a straight cut now haha
Any common disadvantages to the cordless versus the corded? Taking into consideration we have enough batteries if the ones using run out of juice.
@@rkfarmranch8214 Well it doesn't have as much power as the corded version but plenty for cutting plywood. The cordless also uses a super thin blade and they're quite expensive, although all track saw blades are expensive.
@@cliftonobrien588 thank you very much Mr. O’Brien. 160 foot elevation drop from top of our property to bottom. Very hilly. Excited to build a small guest house and green house via cordless. Thanks for taking the time to reply. RK
Mostly you’ll see a power drop. Clifton is correct on the thin kerf blade. I use my cordless for cutting doors and hardwood Oak flooring - go slow and works great
Another EXCELLENT video! Thanks so much for taking all the time to collect the data AND make a video AND document your results in written form. You MORE than achieved the point of this video. Giving us the ability to choose the best saw for our needs.
I have the Bosch, loved it so much I bought their sliding mitre (8j) the month after
I took the Bosch too. I got it relatively cheap and i got 2 8Ah batteries (and a guide rail), so i can charge one and use one indefinitely. With other (Except Mafell) you nees 4 batteries to do the same.
Wow!!!! Awesome review. Honestly, this may have been the best and most thorough tool comparison you’ve done, and is by far the best track saw review on UA-cam...or anywhere online. Nice job!
Have you seen out table saw one?
@@ConcordCarpenter Of course..I watch all the videos you guys produce. Awesome as well!
I’m so glad you guys did track saws because I’m in the market right now. I’m definitely going with the makita after seeing this. I just wish you had used the same blade on all of the saws.
Something about many of the saws have their own arbor and some are made for different thicknesses.
Currently watching from the Foinaven Oil Field in the North Atlantic West of Shetland and you’ve made my mind up on cordless track saws! Great videos!!!
Straight to Grampian power tools after you got off the rig
I have the Festool 75 corded. Smooth cut, convenience, and accessories and largest track saw on the market as far as I know. Tracks bolt together easy.
I have the corded in my shop too
Thanks for always putting out great videos! We literally won’t buy a tool without watching your teams reviews!
Thanks Steph
I figured Mafell would win. But I recently bought the makita track saw and I love it anyway. It’s got tons of power and fits my platform.
I never even heard of Mafell
@@jody6121 They're an old german family-owned company, renowned for their carpenter power tools. Their excellent engineering ranks them above Festool and they make a stellar tracksaw and the best jigsaw on the planet. Unfortunately, they have a price tag to match. They occasionaly do the engineering for some Bosch products too. As an import, they're really too expensive to consider if you're in the North ametican market so they're seldom seen there.
@@the_arcanum yep, the Bosch GKT55 GCE corded track saw is apparently made by Mafell. I wonder if that is also the case for this cordless one?
Given the difference in blade marks on the wood I'm going to assume not.
@@the_arcanum Professionals do choose the best because then you get the best results
love every one of your head to head compares, best XXX or whatever you want to call it. data driven, well thought out testing. everything.
If you announced an air review I wouldn’t breath until I watched it.
A LOL
This video changed my mind in my current track saw purchase. All the data really helped with my individual need. Thank you.
I've got a couple of Mafell tools, they are extremely well made and I'm glad to have them. If available, any tools that need to be replaced will be replaced by a Mafell.
Mafell is nice , but I’ve seen some professional tool repair reviewers say it’s got a lot of Bosch parts and it’s not very special inside. Makes me re think some of my upcoming purchases
@@CraigularjJoeWoodworks Best I've used.
Been eyeing up the makita for a long time. This just reinforced my decision. Thanks guys for all your hard work keep it up!
I have the makita cordless track saw. I run it on festool track. I read and heard alot of negative comments about the makita brand tracks. Blades......... I bought some diablo 6 ½ blades with ⅝ arbor. I paid a local machinist to over bore the arbor to match the track saw arbor. This worked great!!! He made a jig to perform the task.....then he gave me the jig for future use. The ⅝ arbor blades are a lot cheaper, even after paying the machinist. Only down side is the kerf size. Now my track edge is set for the thinner kerf diablo blades. I added a short video of the jig to my playlist
Jason - I’d love to see the pic of the jig.
I’d pay to get a copy of. The jig
I have the Dewalt and it has the same arbor size. I can pick up Diablo blades locally, but not so much the makita or dewalt. So yeah, I'm interested.
Due to my lack of IT knowledge, I'm at a loss as to how to show a pic of the jig. Any suggestions?
Jason just make a short UA-cam video of it. 👍🏻👍🏻
This is probably the best tool comparison video I’ve ever seen. Thanks for the video. I’m glad I watched this before buying a track saw, I’d have been very mad at myself if I’d watched it after.
Wow, thanks!
If you have never used a track saw- you need to try one. I Absolutely love my Corded Makita... so when the time comes for the cordless-I will stick with Makita. Stick with your platform- as I feel all these saws are excellent. Thanks again for the review guys!!!! 👊👊👊
Sticking with a platform is all well and good unless u have mostly dewalt tools I have the corded festool and love it almost bought the makita but the festool felt smoother that’s ultimately why I choose festool
i have the corded makita, i love that saw. but my cordless tools are metabo and their batteries will work on the mafell.
robert sharpe Festool is overpriced and underpowered.
Ken’s Festool Channel yea I just liked how smooth the festool was compared to Makita when side on the track felt better if i what more power I will buy the ts 75 for cutting slabs but never had a problem with power they were the originator of the track saw don’t think you can go wrong with it thanks for ur opinion!
robert sharpe that’s the problem with festool. I wanted to buy into them, but you have to pay even more for the same power that the DeWalt corded model provides. I’ve been using a track saw for a long time. Battery wasn’t even an option and even some of the brands that have corded options weren’t available at the time I bought one.
Awesome review like always, nobody else on the Tube makes such reviews....about 30 years ago I made a strategic choice, because my uncle was a contractor, and over the years he tested all the tools and he settled on Makita, he must had just in handsaw about 40, plus drills, nail guns... he had 2 trucks loaded with tools...., so I chose Makita, and never regretted it, they might not always be the best on the market, but they are often the best value....I still have the makita tools I bought 30 years ago, and they are still working great!
Now THIS is a product review! Extremely thorough analysis, concise monologue, great use of B-roll. Outstanding and I subscribed because of this! Well done guys. Thanks!
This channel deserves 1,000,000 SUBS.
This team brings so much value that it should be a crime not to be a Subscriber.
Great review Rob, & TTB Crew. I wish this was out a year ago when I bought the cordless Festool TS 55. It’s close in price to the Mafell, live & learn I guess.
IMHO the Festool-TS55 is the best saw I have ever used. I do feel as though I’m going to break something when I attach the dust collection bag. That’s a very small item on the con list, in fact, it’s the only one I have.
Love the controls and how well thought out these tests were, gives everyone a great overall idea of what to expect with every saw
I’m looking forward to the new M18 comparison 😉. Keen to know blade thickness (in metric as well) and kickback safety. Keep up the amazing work Rob 👌
Same
Great tool review and testing methodology.
Thank you to all the excellent channel posters above, very helpful comments !!
Awesome review. Makita over Festool. I did not see that coming. Also, Mafell's superiority is no surprise but I didn't expect it to be a runaway on performance. Btw, this is always the first place I look when considering a tool purchase. Great job!
Festool is also made from abs plastic, makita is a real tool and under half the price. I bought the cordless makita with the 52 inch track for just over 500. Festool was 1100 or 1200 for just the ts55 without track. They both use the same track and I think the sustainer is made by festool as well
Your reviews stand out among all the other amateurs and are easily the best on the internet regarding tools.
I've been waiting for this review, thank you!
It's a shame Milwaukee didn't come through
S Fire - I’m right there with you, concerning Milwaukee & their lack of a track saw.
I bought a Festool TS55 last year. At that time I didn’t know about the Mafell track saw.
I’m in the Pacific Northwest of the USA, & Mafell is a new tool brand for me. I see the usual suspects; team yellow, team red, team blue, & team Festool.
Milwaukee is producing some top quality tools; & it’s a shame that the track saw wasn’t one of those tools that made it to my local Home Depot #4007. Some day perhaps.
Especially, with a review like this one that Rob & his crew at Tool Box Buzz produced. It’s like a how-to design the best track saw.
If Milwaukee does produce a track saw , I hope they make it a “One-key” tool.
Apparently only available in E.U. Disappointed as well...
I agree it'd be nice if Milwaukee could figure this one out. Who would have thought Kreg would have a track saw before Milwaukee.
They make some excellent drivers, construction tools, and specialty trade tools. But Woodworking and finish carpentry has never been a huge interest to Milwaukee. I don't know many that run their miter saw and their table saw situation is... disappointing.
Thank you TOOL BOX team, for such an informative video. I ended up purchasing the MAKITA XPS02 with AWS ( the purchase was based on the information I gathered from watching this comparison test).
I'm extremely happy with the investment!
In my opinion you guys have some of the better reviews and comparison tests for our industry - I for one greatly appreciate it.
Keep up the great work!
I always enjoy your head to heads and other reviews. They are always well thought out and have good repeatable tests for consistency between brands. Keep it up, I love my Makita tracksaw! And it's good to know it's stacks up.
This is the best most detailed video on track saws, Great job
Glad you liked it!
Absolutely love My Makita tracksaw.
What makes the track saw any better than a circular saw and a straight edge? How do you clamp the track down?
We have used electric hand tools more than 25 years and we have so bad experience with Makita that I will never ever buy Makita to our company. Never. We have corded Festool track saw and not a single bad word. Currently I am looking corless and I will choose Mafell or Festool
@@tapsulinka I have used Makita all my life and never had any issues. I have also never had issues with Dewalt or Milwaukee either. What bad experience did you have with Makita that no one else on the planet has had? Festool is overpriced and no better than other brands for less money, and countless reviewers have rated brands such as Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee, Rigid, etc as being better in multiple tools. The only tool Festool is best at in all the reviews I have watched is the Domino. Obviously having a patent on a product and being the only person who can build it, makes it easy to beat the competition.
So, what problem with Makita makes them so bad that you'll never own another?
That was a killer comparison.
Well done guys.
Here´s what the Festool Letters mean:
TSC 55 KEB
TS=Tracksaw
C=Cordless
55=55mm max cutting depth
K=Kickback Stop
E=Electronically adjustable speed, Soft Start
B=Brake that stops the blade quicker
F=Thinner Blades 1.8mm instead of 2.2
Q=Plug-It Cable: One power cable connector for all tools so you only need 1 cable.
R=Optimized for cutting along walls or in edges.
Li 5.2=5.2Ah Battery included
Plus=Comes in Systainer
FS=Guide Rail included, mostly 1.4m
SCA=Quickcharger included
Ordered the wrong saw cuz of that... They dont tell you a thing about those, its just embarrassing.
Makes me proud to be a 18v Makita lineup user for my business
You seem to hold the bar as high for yourselves as you do for the tool manufacturers! Nice!
I’m willing, but not eager to buy outside my (battery) platform, the quality and relevance of info the TB2 Crew provides goes a long way helping me understand whether to add another batter and charger to the trailer or go with what I’ve got!
Your video are amazing, the detail and explanation of why you choose certain options.
Keep up the good work!
Excellent review love my Makita track saw!!
No nonsense kinda Videos love it professionals using tools and giving there opinions just amazing
Antonio Claudio Michael thanks
Great test. Really love the obvious thought and thoroughness that went into your evaluation. I recently purchased the Makita myself (haven’t gotten around to using it yet) and am now even happier with my decision.
I believe I see a calculation error on Watt-Hours for the Makita that affected the runtime results. Makita X2 reaches 36V by running the batteries in series. The voltage doubles but the Amp-Hours remain the same. Assuming your total length and runtime tests were run using just one pair of 5Ah batteries, the Watt-Hours will be 36V x 5Ah = 180Wh. Alternatively you can just add the Watt-Hours listed on the bottom of each 5Ah battery...2@90Wh each adds up to 180.
I don’t think I see any other errors for that one assuming the battery configurations for each saw as-tested were as follows:
1x5.5Ah for Mafell
1x6Ah for Dewalt (or 2Ah@60VMax)
2x5.2Ah for Festool
1x6Ah for Bosch
Factored into the run-time test, Makita’s result would then be 2.4 Ft/Wh instead of the 1.2 reported. Which strikes as more consistent with the previous performance results. That would put Makita at #1 for that test, Mafell #2 and Bosch #3.
Of course the Makita won the overall performance test anyway so as far as the final results are concerned the overall rankings don’t change, Makita just looks even a little better along the way to #2 behind Mafell.
Thanks for this we'll check it out.
Kenshiro is right, total energy for the Makita is 180 Wh which doubles its score. I think the results speak mainly to the performance of the Makita's blade more than anything. Looks like it's not quite as smooth-cutting as the included blades with the Maffell and Festool saws, but it's FAR more efficient.
Kenshiro - You are correct, there was an error in the calculation for the Makita. It should be 180 watt-hours (2 packs x 5 Ah x 18 V = 180). It doesn't effect the final results, but does make Makita win the run-time category. Thanks for bringing this up, we've corrected the article.
The reason the Makita wins is also due to having a super thin kerf blade which is not mentioned either.
Not so many reviewers cover as much as you did. So, Great job.
thx
I own a corded DeWalt Track Saw, and I think it’s a solid saw. However, all of the things pointed out here are true of the corded saw as well. It’s a good saw, but if you’re spending your money on a new saw, weigh your options. The DeWalt is finicky when making adjustments.
Excellent review. Thank you for your diligence and unbiased reviewing! You are the gold standard in reviews! Kudos!
I've been very happy with my Makita. Every cut is a finish cut, right out the box.
Thorough and thoughtful approach. it’s a good basis and as you mention, everyone can apply their own weighting to the data. Value cannot be evaluated without price but it was good to say which saw was just the best.
I used to own the dewalt saw which I thought was pretty good as it has loads of power but majorly lacks finesse and the blade change is a pain. Joining the rails together wasn't the best as they were hard to keep them both flush.
I sold that saw and bought the mafell! This saw is in a league of its own as is the majority of mafell tools, pay the money, you definitely get what you pay for. Mafell are buy it once machines they will last a lifetime.
thanks Rob and crew. Always enjoy and benefit from the analysis. Recently received a track saw for Christmas from my wonderful wife. What saw? The Makita! Still a fantastic saw and tool line in 2022 for what I do and I use other lines, too. Thanks for making my wife feel good about her purchase! Happy 2023!
I have the Makita in my van - great saw
Great and interesting test. I really liked it. From my point of view Mafell and Festool are carpenter saws, whereas Bosch, Makita and DeWalt are more construction site saws - or for non professional woodworkers. If money wouldn't matter I would buy Mafell (with cord) or Festool. But since money matters and also Makita isn't too cheap I will probably buy the Makita with cord.
Thanks for taking the time to do this, it's a great comparison and glad to see Mafell making it's way in America... It would be great to see some more Mafell products such as their P1 cc jigsaw and the Erika 85 ec push-pull saw.
The Erika is awesome. I've been researching European brands and it seems that they have been steadily innovating, whereas the US brands barely make incremental changes. They're years to decades ahead.
@@TheArtificiallyIntelligent There's a lot of innovation coming out of Europe - mainly Germany. Here are some power tool companies - they're not all owned by European companies but largely based there.
- Mafell (Germany)
- Fein (Germany)
- Metabo (Germany)
- Duss (Germany)
- Flex (Germany)
- Baier (Germany)
- Hilti (liechtenstein)
Usually, I find myself going for something German or Japanese where I can afford it. Then there's the hand tools from Germany: Wera, Knipex, Wiha, Stahlwille, Gedore, Hazet, NWS, Felo, CK. PB Swiss from Switzerland is also good. While all of the above are expensive, I firmly believe that for the most part, when it comes to tools, you pay for what you get! You can also research the more industrial tools such as Altendorf for panel / table saws.
@@CrookedSkew Thank you! I'll have fun looking through all these brands. I started off down this rabbit hole because I had seen some people using (horizontal) panel saws and thought it's crazy that they are so rare in the US. I stumbled upon the Altendorf WA 6 just yesterday. I think it's $7,000 or so. That seems expensive, but if you compare it to an "industrial" SawStop that costs $5,000, the Altendorf is inexpensive, and seems better in every way.
Another thing I've noticed is that things like dust collection seem to be much better for European tools. US: better wear a respirator. Europe: I wonder if we can make it so you don't need a respirator?
@@TheArtificiallyIntelligent No problem. Be wary of most quality panel saws requiring 3 phase power. From looking at at Altendorf some time ago, I didn't find a single saw that used single phase power. Perhaps that's not an issue for you but it is for me, ergo something like the Erika 85 ec. Enjoy :)
I recently invested in Makita's platform. I needed a impact driver after I broke two and it was in the discontinued shelf at Homedepot. Love it now looking at expanding.
Several tools I have purchased recently were based off your reviews. I really appreciate what you do for us. You da man!
Glad you like them!
Absolutely love you guys' videos. Ya'll do a completely fantastic job at reviews. If I'm in the market for a new power tool or shop accessory, I always look first to see if you already have a video on it. BRAVO! 👏
just found you, hands down best tool review I've ever watched on anything. Not sure if it made my decision any easier, but at least I have the proper information to make it. Thumbs up and subscribed.
Thanks and welcome
Once again I end up pleased that I went with the Makita system. They have just about any tool you could want, they're always in the top 3 in tests like these and they're priced well. The Mafell might have been the overall top, but at 2x the price, get out of here. Keep it up Makita!
I thought the same thing after watching this 👍
I've been using makita for almost 25 years. I have a hard time buying other brands when I do because makita has been so reliable. I still have the first 18 volt impact and drill that I bought when the lithium line came out probably 14 years ago?
I can not object at all, this Japanese company proved itself over and over again.
I generally agree, especially for prosumer use.
if you are a professional carpenter however, who uses his tracksaw for thousands of hours over many years, the the Mafell is definately worth the extra cost.
P.S.: long term durability of Mafells machines is outstanding!
Same thoughts, I use Makita and Milwaukee, I can't seriously consider other battery makers.
I have my original makita impact driver, it still works perfect, and the original batteries are still working.
Now with dozens of cordless tools, I stick to trusted brands that also are good value for money.
Never bought festool because of price, and the very few mentions of the number of times they are returned for service.
Thanks for posting !
These reviews are unrivalled
Great review - very thorough. The Mafell and Festool are great tracksaws. Have corded versions of both and a cordless TSC, which I also really like. Cannot go wrong.
I just bought the TS55 but I’m tempted to return it and get the Mafell. Would you recommend or no? I hear a lot of people switching from the festool to the mafell and they say it’s the better saw.
@@JSears121 They are both great saws. The Mafell has more power and better dust collection. The Festool is better splinter gaurd for offcuts and more accessories after market and support. I do not think you can go wrong with either. There are pros and cons for each.
@@MrTooljunkie Goodvto hear. Thanks for the help.
@@JSears121 Mafell saw with the new Metabo LiHD 10 amp hour battery would be a real beast.
My winner is the homemade DIY one. Haha! Cuz I already got it.
No dust collection...but works for me. I can cut on both sides of the guide....and I have 2 of them. An 8 footer and a 4 footer.
I do like the extra bells and whistles of the others. Just cannot swing those prices for a hobby that is not the breadwinner. Thanks for all you do! I enjoy watching the content!
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I hope @milwaukeetool is watching this video for when they start producing the cordless tracksaw that I’m going to buy! Pay attention Milwaukee, they nailed all the points, make it right!
I love my Makita, I bought it tool only cause I'm already in the line, with the Powertech tracks. That combo is an amazing value
Good to see the rest of America finally discovering what us once few and far inbetween Mafell fans have known for a decade. 😁
Hands down best tool review anywhere. Thanks for what you do .
God bless you guys for doing this that I might just go out and buy one! LIKED AND SUBSCRIBED
Thanks so much for this amazing tool review!
great review - and I agree to everything you said from my experience; the only issue IMO: I would not include the price for the ranking, because a tool does not become better due to a low price and does not become worse due to a high price. I would prefer ranking the tools only to their quality, features and handling and then naming the price separately to get the value.
And meanwhile there is another great contender: the new Metabo KT 18 LTX 66 BL - very well build, high quality with great features and (at least IMO) very good handling. And it cuts longer per Wh than any other saw I know. I would consider it to be a serious contender for the the Mafell and Festool
That was the nest hands down list. Didn't take into mind price.
What a fantastic review. Clear cut, gives you the important details without any fluff, and more than a side by side between only two tools. Well done and thank you, subscribed!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice pun
I'm already on the festool platform. That's what I'm doing.
Thank you for your very thorough testing of these top track saws! It was very helpful in leading me to the one I plan to purchase. Tool Box rocks!!
Makita also has the scribe cut feature that is able to be used with one hand.
The Makita was tested with 5.0 Ah packs, so the watt-hours was 180 watt-hours. This has been corrected in the article.
I just bought the Makita xsh08 which is a track saw capable circular saw. With a 60 tooth blade cutting plywood had no chipping. One saw to rule them all
I own the makita. You know when you buy an expensive tool and you have high expectations. It arrives, you use it the those expectations are not only met but blown away! That's rare. The makita is an exceptional Peice of kit, the makita blades are expensive so I use trend or Freud depending what's on offer and they cut better, last longer and are cheaper.
Yep love my cordless makita. I'm usually looking for excuses to use it lol
What Freud blades are you using for your track saw. I too find the Makita blades a bit pricy for the cordless track, not that there is a issue with quality with them. I am open to an alternative if it preforms just as well. Thanks
This video is exactly what I wanted to watch. Been waiting to see a Milwaukee track saw.
There is no milwaukee tracksaw in us
Great demo that fairly measures each saw's capabilities! After watching your video, I purchased the Mafell (the corded version and more expensive), so thank you guys for putting this together and explaining/showing what these saws are all about and their capabilities. The one bit of feedback I would offer is on the pricing piece. It would be helpful to see the price for the saw only. Mafell's pricing is ala carte and may be the same for the others (I didn't look b/c I went straight to the Mafell), so you can buy the track lengths you want, connectors, etc. A saw-only column at the beginning of your matrix would give an accurate price baseline for all the saws followed by prices for a 5' piece of track and cost for a connector like you have. B/c most of the saws can use tracks from other manufacturers, a person may only want to buy the saw if they are changing from the saw they have, but can still use the track they have. Otherwise, outstanding video!
You are wrong. The corded is less expensive. Additionally; you are wrong that a saw only option is fair… testing is literally about determining the “as tested” methodology.
Thanks guys. Always rely on these in depth looks for choosing tools. 🙏🏼