Watch a big majority of game IP's follow this trash system, it happens with a lot of horrible moves anymore in gaming. It's been a downward spiral for years lol
@Vauun420 the best part is that yet again people will blame the publishers and not the studios making the decisions and not take responsibility for throwing money at these things they claim to hate but financially support constantly.
Disney superstorm can get away with it why cant i their a political company defending American ideals better then anything your doing charities dont solve the problem
I feel that the only reason COD didn't get more backlash for the blackcell tier of their battlepasses is because you can still go the f2p route. You can still buy the battlepass for 1100 cod points, but you earn 1500 cod points each season so you are making more bang for your buck if you are willing to grind it out every 50 days. Not only that, but you can just earn 300 cod points per season in the free to play route and get a free paid tier by the 4th season Even as a casual cod player, it feels sad to say they did something better than EA...
Fun fact: CoD’s battle pass system costs about $10 or 1000 cod points, and every new season grants you 1300 points back So basically if you first started CoD’s battle passes back in MW2019, you literally only payed $10 for 5 YEARS of battle passes PLUS slowly increasing your cod points overtime to buy other stuff
Also the skins in fortnite look cool and have new stuff. The apex skins are pretty much just recolours of the base model, with a few exceptions of Path... The skins of apex feel like not much effort has been put, atleast the common to epic variants. Add the millions of "trackers" you get from loot boxes and battle passes, there is no fun in opening them.
And that's why I'm forever free to play on most free to play games. If the game doesn't give me a reason to want to stay invested for free, why would I pay money for a game I already don't like the experience of?
But then you will pretend to be surprised and angry when they get shut down because nobody plays their games. Why do you think they went to EA in the first place? 😂
@@TheJohhnyE They don't need EA. The Titanfall games are some of the best FPS and don't forget, they built Apex. They may have done it under EA, but they did it.
@@AetherPhantom True, but even (some of the) Devs that have left said they didn't want to work on Titanfall anyway. So even if Respawn did break away, it won't guarantee anyone a Titanfall 3 or a revival of Titanfall. They may have been a group of passionate devs at one point in time, but that has passed. It's like with Bioware, Bethesda and even Raven Software for example. Shells of their former selves.
It's EA's MO. Let's not forget when they did the same thing about the BP's leveling system. They changed the model, so it was harder for you to level up (so you'd spend more) and then made it slightly less difficult to level up, but never went back to the old (better) way. They always announce an unbelievable bad change, people get angry, they make it "better" so people accept it as "well, they're listening".
@@dsilverleaf4668that’s far from case ea and respawn came out and said “Despite the positive reception, Titanfall 2 underperformed commercially, with most attributing its underwhelming performance to going on sale in a crowded release window, placed between the release of Battlefield 1 and Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare.” it’s beloved now but when it first came out everyone hated it especially because of movement
When are we going to stop making excuses for studios just because they made a game we like? People keep blaming EA for what the studios under them do, as if the studios have no say in the matter. Respawn debunked that narrative a while ago with their Star Wars games and telling everyone that they themselves chose to not put microtransactions in the games. 😂 People did the same thing with Destiny 2 and Activision; blamed activision for their shitty monetization. Then they got away from activision and things got much, much worse. Then people used the excuse that it got worse because they're independent and need the money. Then they sold their souls to Sony for a ridiculous amount of money and things got worse still. 😂
This is just sad man. I never really got into Apex Legends, but seeing our favorite competitive games just crumble and die is a travesty. I loved that game Knockout City. I can't necessarily blame a major corporation for its downfall but I hate it died. Seeing what EA, Ubisoft (they're not Ubihard), and these other "AAAA" game studios just ruin the games because the only care about money is so sad and pisses me off. It's why I'm looking more into indie titles, because they indie devs are content with the money they're making from the game they made, and most don't implement trashy microtransactions that are ridiculously overpriced. Keep up the great work man!
@@TheJohhnyE I'm not sure what you're on about a lot of people played that game but EA refused to fix cheating issues that were so bad that it rendered the game unplayable
Just another example of the AAA market actively imploding/shooting itself in the foot. Yeah, lets just try and incentivize more people to buy the battle pass by jacking up the price and not even guarantee a consistent amount of loot per pass! That'll surely work and not backfire at all! Even if the vision for the new BP system is reworked in some way, I'm sure that EA will find a way to spin it to _look_ better on paper, but still manage to swindle people out of their money (well, more than they already are). And the worst part is? Some of those folks will *thank* them for it.
I'm honestly not surprised. Just like how they changed the collection events, from where you could earn event items from playing the game. To where you now have to buy them. Not to mention the constant recolouring of heirlooms. Which was ridiculously overpriced to begin with.
Only reason EA fixed SW-BF2 was because the backlash was loud enough for Disney to take notice and force EA to backtrack. Not defending either Disney or EA, just thought I'd point that out.
See, this is why tying yourself to "heroes" doesn't work well. One of the fun aspects of Fortnite is that you can be anyone. The skins aren't just different looks to a character, they're a whole different character. I do play Fortnite, and yeah, my favourite is Kimiko. I play others at times, but that's the character I prefer. And for the longest time, Epic Games wasn't getting more money from me because while emotes are fun, you get the ones you want, and that's it. But then they added Fortnite Festival. Making one of my dreams come true, proper Rock Band game on PC. Clone Hero is nice, but because it's mostly a hardcore community, there's barely any custom maps/songs made for those like me, who aren't true experts at the game.
I would also like to say, the new player experience of apex has a wayyyyyyyyyy too high skill cap. New players are rarely present and if any new players join, they are faced with people who have 20000 kills, 1500 matches won and the 4k damage batch. This completely saps the new player confidence. I have tried to get my friends to play this, but no one lasted more than a week. Now with these changes, Imma quit too. Let EA die in the grave they dug. Honestly, I dont want a titan fall 3, unless EA and Respawn clean their shit up
Apex is one of my most favourite multiplayer games , have quite a fond memories with it and playing it since the launch , man it always feels bad to see the things you love destroyed by corporate greed or negligence or both
@@Segatonyet it's respawn making the decision. Are we all purposely forgetting that respawn openly admitted that they get to decide the monetization of their games? Remember them stating that it was their choice to not put microtransactions in the star wars jedi games? 😂
I'm going to be honest here. I don't have faith that the gaming community who plays this game really cares. I see shit happen with other games and because the community is so addicted to the game itself they will cry about it for a bit then go back to playing the game anyway. It's been this way for years. So long that there was a screenshot of a group on steam that had boycotted some Call of Duty game showing most off them were actually playing that game at the time of the screenshot. Furthermore, companies like EA often benefit anyway. Either the gamers that complain just go ahead and keep playing and often keep pumping money into the game, or they revert it and the gamers reward them by pumping even more into it. Case in point, when Helldivers 2 was going to require a PSN account to play, people complained and gave negative reviews, since not everybody could even make a PSN account and would not be able to play the game anymore. So Sony backtracked on the requirement but kept the region restrictions meaning even though you don't need a PSN account, if you couldn't play because of that you still can't play because you can't even buy the game anymore. Despite the fanbase making such a huge deal about how they weren't going to turn their backs on their friends across the world, once Sony reverted the requirement, they didn't care about anything else and went back to pumping money and hours into the game essentially proving that yes they would turn their backs on their friends across the world. Ghost of Tsushima also can't be bought in those regions because one mode of the game requires a PSN account, and the new God Of War makes it mandatory and therefore can't be bought anywhere that doesn't have access to PSN. So while Sony is not going to make as much money, it is literally because they are actively restricting who can buy their games, not because gamers have any real principles to stand on. As long as they are addicted to the game they find fun, they will keep buying and playing said game.
"Pumping money" and "Helldivers 2" doesnt really work, currency is easily obtained ingame. Yes you can buy ingame currency, in the end you'll have to play the game itself cause the unlockable content set you bought with said currency, can only be gained through playing the game itself, or when the commmunity clears an community objective
Other than that i agree your points, people in general tends to be passive and submissive when it doesnt concern themselves, these days it worsens though with how these companies exploiting it and giving customers iron fist treatment and people would only take the least aggressive action they can do
Always find it strange when people think devs aren’t greedy and its all up to the publisher to implement bad policies. Weve seen that publishers aren’t needed to have shit policies.
i kinda started to hate the game anyway. New skins for the SAME legends EVERY SEASON! Overpriced sh$t! a mess of a rank mode were top players could be in rookie 4! Players quiting the match the SECOND they are downed! UGH!
Brilliant video Joe !!! This is 20 minutes and 56 seconds of pure sense. It is great to hear an intelligent breakdown of the BS EA are trying to force here. I like Respawn very much. Hard to say but Epic games are getting it right. I've stopped playing Apex and having more fun with Titan Fall 2, hold on . . . I'm going back to an old dead game because it's better than the current live game ??!!?? Thanks for a great listen Joe, I'm crying and laughing.
That's EA for you. If it doesn't make record profits, then it's worthless to them. In turn, they aggressively monetize the ever-living shit out of their other games that end up dying. Like (case in point) Apex and Madden. Games like Dead Space (Dead Space 2), Battlefield franchise and Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order just aren't designed in ways EA can milk it for ungodly amounts of money. I don't advocate for the loss of jobs... but EA is a company that needs to go away.
You haven't played a battlefield game, have you? Battlefield has had this type of monetization since battlefield 3, with microtransactions for unlocking guns, attachments, xp boosts, vehicle upgrades, etc..
Apex was always a shitty cashgrab why are poeple surprised? lmao. they completely butchered the titanfall series for basically the "gve me money, money me" meme.
I wish they do something like if you buy the premium+ then on the second half you have to buy the premium+ again. like you can't downgrade to only premium lol.
@@war.v27 yes I'm pretty sure but they didn't straight come out and say it. We just know a titanfall game was canceled and they aren't going forward with more. EA hates single player they want a purely live service game.
The sad part….the truly sad part is that someone will actually buy this. Remember, this will only stop when you make it stop. Stop buying EA games, stop playing them, remove the app from your PC.
Look at the bright side I’m free I don’t need to play something that I don’t want to I’m free is finally dead I can play something else that is good i’m free and happy
People can blame EA and Respawn all they want but if your a gamer and you've subscribed to the system of season/battle passes, paid for cosmetics etc at any point then your also part of the problem , if noone had bought into it in the first place then the live service nonsense wouldn't even exist . Be careful what you wish for as they say
When they inevitably change this to something less bad I can't wait for the boot lickers to say that it isn't that bad. Because paying double instead or quadruple is totally a good thing. Stop spending any money on free to play games. Make them free
Look, I am 100% for blaming the publisher over the developer when something shitty happens...but as a massive Titanfall 2 fan, Respawn is an exception in my mind Between how they sat back and did NOTHING for it while it was getting hacked worse than Team Fortress 2, the fact that it was confirmed that a EA actually OFFERED TO DELAY Jedi Survivor to give them more time to finish it and a RESPAWN EXECUTIVE DECLINED, and the fact that EA was completely unaware Titanfall 3 was canceled until Apex Legends had been in development for 6 months, I don't really know what shitty decisions are on EA and what are on Respawn anymore I will fully admit, there is some salt based bias in there, clouding my decision. but we have proof that Respawn is not the innocent dev group that you try to make them out to be here Joe tangent out of the way, your point about making the game as enticing as possible to want to spend money...The First Descendant has failed there while Warframe has succeeded hell, I'd argue Warframe has succeeded better than Fortnite if Fortnite wasn't literally the only think keeping EGS afloat But still, Warframe has gone 11 years strong at this point and is consistently heralded as having the BEST F2P model ever...and for good reason
I haven't played in about a year but the fact that THIS is what everyone is freaking out about, but a second premium currency was just fine? Apex players are actually insane.
0:12 Good! Don't stop doing single player! They are much more immersive worlds by nature. Witcher 3 draws you in, you're focused on Geralts story and the RICH lore, dialogue choices that have heavy impact. Your really not gonna get that kind of immersion from most pvp games. I admit i have a chip on my shoulder against pvp, mmo, games as a service in general. Mostly stems from having the shittiest internet ever growing up and into my young adult years, feeling barred from games or features in otherwise SP games. But i also do hate the lack of story telling in those kinds of games. And it makes me hate them even more when these mega AAA studios get greedy and say "the future of gaming is live service" "the single player rpg is dead" and so on. No. You guys (AAA president or other Corpo) WANT the rpg to be dead. You WANT the future to be live service so you can make your forever game that continues to pay out without you having to put work into new games. But live service ain't easy, it isn't free money, you guys DO have to actually work on this mmo and keep content fresh almost as if you were making a new game, only constantly.
This is really scummy but at the same time a lot of players are already unhappy with apex because respawn doe's nothing about the cheaters or zim users and the fact that a content update for them is another 120 dollar season event your probably right about this being EAs hand in the cookie jar here with the battle pass but respawn is no saint when it comes to greed
Me dumb me get smart when corporaration tell me bend over give me money . Im proud of the gaming community for calling out this this scumbag investor move.
I don't play Apex but I will say...this is a fucking insult to the player base.
Watch a big majority of game IP's follow this trash system, it happens with a lot of horrible moves anymore in gaming. It's been a downward spiral for years lol
@Vauun420 the best part is that yet again people will blame the publishers and not the studios making the decisions and not take responsibility for throwing money at these things they claim to hate but financially support constantly.
Disney superstorm can get away with it why cant i their a political company defending American ideals better then anything your doing charities dont solve the problem
ea what do you do with this money business trips to dubai and giving it away to us rich
it's always EA
It’s what they do! 😤 And EA is proud….BOASTFUL of it too……😞
Yes.. it's EA. Not at all the people who show them CONSTANTLY that they are alright with this stuff and CONSTANTLY pay for it all. 😂
Nah, it's just EA doesn't like falling behind
I don't get why people still play their games. It's like you're paying to be treated badly.
Good old EA
I feel that the only reason COD didn't get more backlash for the blackcell tier of their battlepasses is because you can still go the f2p route.
You can still buy the battlepass for 1100 cod points, but you earn 1500 cod points each season so you are making more bang for your buck if you are willing to grind it out every 50 days. Not only that, but you can just earn 300 cod points per season in the free to play route and get a free paid tier by the 4th season
Even as a casual cod player, it feels sad to say they did something better than EA...
EA in a DSP voice: "Gimme Money!"
“I need that money I really do. I need that money. For the electric bill the internet bill the light bill” *Eyes bugged out the whole time*
@@yeezyszn7208 you forgot him snorting every time he end sentence
"It's greed. Greed is massively strong"
"I did nothing wrong, I did everything correct."
**Cue dropping another $1,000 on WWE Champions for those sweet Hogans**
EA: Evil Actually
Fun fact: CoD’s battle pass system costs about $10 or 1000 cod points, and every new season grants you 1300 points back
So basically if you first started CoD’s battle passes back in MW2019, you literally only payed $10 for 5 YEARS of battle passes PLUS slowly increasing your cod points overtime to buy other stuff
Also the skins in fortnite look cool and have new stuff. The apex skins are pretty much just recolours of the base model, with a few exceptions of Path... The skins of apex feel like not much effort has been put, atleast the common to epic variants.
Add the millions of "trackers" you get from loot boxes and battle passes, there is no fun in opening them.
And that's why I'm forever free to play on most free to play games. If the game doesn't give me a reason to want to stay invested for free, why would I pay money for a game I already don't like the experience of?
Free to play games are a cancer. You are part of the problem.
EA Games
Ruin Everything
*ZZzzrrp*
It'd be nice if this would flop so hard that EA would release Respawn and let them be their own company.
Do you honestly think if for some reason this flopped EA wouldn’t just shut the studio down. People amuse me
@@TheDORIANGRAE1 One can dream
But then you will pretend to be surprised and angry when they get shut down because nobody plays their games. Why do you think they went to EA in the first place? 😂
@@TheJohhnyE They don't need EA. The Titanfall games are some of the best FPS and don't forget, they built Apex. They may have done it under EA, but they did it.
@@AetherPhantom True, but even (some of the) Devs that have left said they didn't want to work on Titanfall anyway. So even if Respawn did break away, it won't guarantee anyone a Titanfall 3 or a revival of Titanfall. They may have been a group of passionate devs at one point in time, but that has passed. It's like with Bioware, Bethesda and even Raven Software for example. Shells of their former selves.
This I why I never have and never will play a free to play game
It's EA's MO. Let's not forget when they did the same thing about the BP's leveling system. They changed the model, so it was harder for you to level up (so you'd spend more) and then made it slightly less difficult to level up, but never went back to the old (better) way. They always announce an unbelievable bad change, people get angry, they make it "better" so people accept it as "well, they're listening".
Not surprised. Titan Fall2 was beloved. And they just ignored it all. EA will nvr change
If titanfall 2 was so beloved then why has it never had big player counts?
@@TheJohhnyE the story
@@dsilverleaf4668that’s far from case ea and respawn came out and said “Despite the positive reception, Titanfall 2 underperformed commercially, with most attributing its underwhelming performance to going on sale in a crowded release window, placed between the release of Battlefield 1 and Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare.” it’s beloved now but when it first came out everyone hated it especially because of movement
When are we going to stop making excuses for studios just because they made a game we like? People keep blaming EA for what the studios under them do, as if the studios have no say in the matter. Respawn debunked that narrative a while ago with their Star Wars games and telling everyone that they themselves chose to not put microtransactions in the games. 😂
People did the same thing with Destiny 2 and Activision; blamed activision for their shitty monetization. Then they got away from activision and things got much, much worse. Then people used the excuse that it got worse because they're independent and need the money. Then they sold their souls to Sony for a ridiculous amount of money and things got worse still. 😂
This is just sad man. I never really got into Apex Legends, but seeing our favorite competitive games just crumble and die is a travesty. I loved that game Knockout City. I can't necessarily blame a major corporation for its downfall but I hate it died. Seeing what EA, Ubisoft (they're not Ubihard), and these other "AAAA" game studios just ruin the games because the only care about money is so sad and pisses me off. It's why I'm looking more into indie titles, because they indie devs are content with the money they're making from the game they made, and most don't implement trashy microtransactions that are ridiculously overpriced. Keep up the great work man!
I’m still mad EA killed Titanfall 2
EA didn't kill Titanfall 2. Nobody played Titanfall 2. The fake fanbase killed Titanfall 2. 😂
Titanfall 2 is pretty damn alive for a dead game.
@@TheJohhnyE I'm not sure what you're on about a lot of people played that game but EA refused to fix cheating issues that were so bad that it rendered the game unplayable
@@TheJohhnyE 🧠💀
@TheJohhnyE they released it in between cod and BF you clearly don't know wtf your talking about
Just another example of the AAA market actively imploding/shooting itself in the foot. Yeah, lets just try and incentivize more people to buy the battle pass by jacking up the price and not even guarantee a consistent amount of loot per pass! That'll surely work and not backfire at all!
Even if the vision for the new BP system is reworked in some way, I'm sure that EA will find a way to spin it to _look_ better on paper, but still manage to swindle people out of their money (well, more than they already are). And the worst part is? Some of those folks will *thank* them for it.
EA, it's in the fleecing game
I'm honestly not surprised. Just like how they changed the collection events, from where you could earn event items from playing the game. To where you now have to buy them.
Not to mention the constant recolouring of heirlooms. Which was ridiculously overpriced to begin with.
Only reason EA fixed SW-BF2 was because the backlash was loud enough for Disney to take notice and force EA to backtrack. Not defending either Disney or EA, just thought I'd point that out.
Man….the first week of apex was absolute MAGIC…..now we are here
Take me back😭. I don't recognise the game anymore. So sad
Fitbit:
You're popping off, Joe.
Keep dunking on EA.
See, this is why tying yourself to "heroes" doesn't work well. One of the fun aspects of Fortnite is that you can be anyone. The skins aren't just different looks to a character, they're a whole different character. I do play Fortnite, and yeah, my favourite is Kimiko. I play others at times, but that's the character I prefer. And for the longest time, Epic Games wasn't getting more money from me because while emotes are fun, you get the ones you want, and that's it.
But then they added Fortnite Festival. Making one of my dreams come true, proper Rock Band game on PC. Clone Hero is nice, but because it's mostly a hardcore community, there's barely any custom maps/songs made for those like me, who aren't true experts at the game.
I would also like to say, the new player experience of apex has a wayyyyyyyyyy too high skill cap. New players are rarely present and if any new players join, they are faced with people who have 20000 kills, 1500 matches won and the 4k damage batch. This completely saps the new player confidence. I have tried to get my friends to play this, but no one lasted more than a week. Now with these changes, Imma quit too. Let EA die in the grave they dug.
Honestly, I dont want a titan fall 3, unless EA and Respawn clean their shit up
Yeah, Apex could benefits from custom games like Fortnite, or Plunder like WZ.
As a Titanfall player, apex has always been dead to me. Dogshit game
Apex is one of my most favourite multiplayer games , have quite a fond memories with it and playing it since the launch , man it always feels bad to see the things you love destroyed by corporate greed or negligence or both
Same I'm a beast at it and hope it doesn't go under because of corporate retardation
Just EA being classic EA.
@@Segatonyet it's respawn making the decision. Are we all purposely forgetting that respawn openly admitted that they get to decide the monetization of their games? Remember them stating that it was their choice to not put microtransactions in the star wars jedi games? 😂
@@TheJohhnyEHmm interesting
Free to play games are garbage. The fact that Apex is one of your favourite games shows how bad your taste in games is.
Apex has always had the worst progression and cosmetics. Shocked the game has lasted this long, its no wonder they are desperate for more money.
AAA Video Game Company Don't Kill Your Game With Predatory Monetization Challenge (Impossible)
As a long term Pilot all I can say is I feel for you Legends
I'm going to be honest here. I don't have faith that the gaming community who plays this game really cares. I see shit happen with other games and because the community is so addicted to the game itself they will cry about it for a bit then go back to playing the game anyway. It's been this way for years. So long that there was a screenshot of a group on steam that had boycotted some Call of Duty game showing most off them were actually playing that game at the time of the screenshot.
Furthermore, companies like EA often benefit anyway. Either the gamers that complain just go ahead and keep playing and often keep pumping money into the game, or they revert it and the gamers reward them by pumping even more into it. Case in point, when Helldivers 2 was going to require a PSN account to play, people complained and gave negative reviews, since not everybody could even make a PSN account and would not be able to play the game anymore. So Sony backtracked on the requirement but kept the region restrictions meaning even though you don't need a PSN account, if you couldn't play because of that you still can't play because you can't even buy the game anymore.
Despite the fanbase making such a huge deal about how they weren't going to turn their backs on their friends across the world, once Sony reverted the requirement, they didn't care about anything else and went back to pumping money and hours into the game essentially proving that yes they would turn their backs on their friends across the world. Ghost of Tsushima also can't be bought in those regions because one mode of the game requires a PSN account, and the new God Of War makes it mandatory and therefore can't be bought anywhere that doesn't have access to PSN. So while Sony is not going to make as much money, it is literally because they are actively restricting who can buy their games, not because gamers have any real principles to stand on. As long as they are addicted to the game they find fun, they will keep buying and playing said game.
"Pumping money" and "Helldivers 2" doesnt really work, currency is easily obtained ingame. Yes you can buy ingame currency, in the end you'll have to play the game itself cause the unlockable content set you bought with said currency, can only be gained through playing the game itself, or when the commmunity clears an community objective
Other than that i agree your points, people in general tends to be passive and submissive when it doesnt concern themselves, these days it worsens though with how these companies exploiting it and giving customers iron fist treatment and people would only take the least aggressive action they can do
I fell into the mobile F2P trap. I've decided to avoid any and all P2W titles
I literally just re-downloaded this last night. I swear to the spaghetti monster
Always find it strange when people think devs aren’t greedy and its all up to the publisher to implement bad policies. Weve seen that publishers aren’t needed to have shit policies.
ea and making good choices don't go together
It’s been dead since it released bruh. Only like a handful of Npc’s play this crap
i kinda started to hate the game anyway.
New skins for the SAME legends EVERY SEASON!
Overpriced sh$t!
a mess of a rank mode were top players could be in rookie 4!
Players quiting the match the SECOND they are downed!
UGH!
Respawn Is totally Killing Apex and Bringing Titanfall 2 Back to life
Brilliant video Joe !!! This is 20 minutes and 56 seconds of pure sense. It is great to hear an intelligent breakdown of the BS EA are trying to force here. I like Respawn very much. Hard to say but Epic games are getting it right. I've stopped playing Apex and having more fun with Titan Fall 2, hold on . . . I'm going back to an old dead game because it's better than the current live game ??!!?? Thanks for a great listen Joe, I'm crying and laughing.
That's EA for you. If it doesn't make record profits, then it's worthless to them. In turn, they aggressively monetize the ever-living shit out of their other games that end up dying. Like (case in point) Apex and Madden. Games like Dead Space (Dead Space 2), Battlefield franchise and Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order just aren't designed in ways EA can milk it for ungodly amounts of money. I don't advocate for the loss of jobs... but EA is a company that needs to go away.
You haven't played a battlefield game, have you? Battlefield has had this type of monetization since battlefield 3, with microtransactions for unlocking guns, attachments, xp boosts, vehicle upgrades, etc..
Sadly their not going to go away from the sheer amount of dumbasses who still pay and play their sports games year after year. 😒
EA was feeling left out with all the other companies. Making bad decisions lately and they hadn't been in the headlines for a while
Big corporations killing a franchises they own, what a surprise 😒
Apex was always a shitty cashgrab why are poeple surprised? lmao. they completely butchered the titanfall series for basically the "gve me money, money me" meme.
As some who has never played apex, I see this as an absolute win.
It's a great game that deserves better
@@Scornfull titanfall deserved better
@@ANTHONY-TECHSMITH I don't disagree, both bring something different to the table but both are good
I wish they do something like if you buy the premium+ then on the second half you have to buy the premium+ again. like you can't downgrade to only premium lol.
You can't spell evil with EA.
Does this mean we can finally get Titanfall 3?
Who'd have thunk borrowing all that 'cheap' money came with strings lol
Stopped playing apex in season 7 just got burnt out, but sucks watching EA kill their golden goose and milk its corpse dry.
Here for joeFromSeatlle
I never played Apex, and I am in fact just here for your videos. Made me chuckle when you said that
Basically it cost 4 times the cost for a BP with nothing new
I stopped playing free to play games a long time ago
If EA axing Titanfall 3 didn't give you red alarm bells for Apex welcome to the club.
@@Bagginsess Wait. Did they actually confirmedly cancel development/plans for TF3?
@@war.v27 yes I'm pretty sure but they didn't straight come out and say it. We just know a titanfall game was canceled and they aren't going forward with more. EA hates single player they want a purely live service game.
The sad part….the truly sad part is that someone will actually buy this. Remember, this will only stop when you make it stop. Stop buying EA games, stop playing them, remove the app from your PC.
its like EA looked at concord and went.. oh you think thats a shitty idea? hold my soy latte
Blizzard did this with season 4 and 5 then backtracked to where you can earn the currency to buy the next season
They saw how Overwatch was doing it, so they decided to copy their homework
say that with me.
"Gamers needs to be comfortable not owning their games you'll own nothing and you'll be happy" - Ubisoft.
Look at the bright side I’m free I don’t need to play something that I don’t want to I’m free is finally dead I can play something else that is good i’m free and happy
you know if i had a nickel for every time ea killed a titanfall universe game id have 2 nickels its not much but its strange that its happened twice
They have improved the experience for them, not for the users.
All I want to say is........ SCREW EA!
It was bound to happen eventually.
good. Its lame. it lived so tf3 could die. so this brings hope 3 comes baby. sick of BRs
These companies are making it way too easy for me to quit modern gaming. I quit Apex a year ago, and I will never go back.
What do you expect from a boardroom with a CEO and a bunch of yes men?
Thinking Respawn has nothing to do with it. Lol, lmao even.
"EA Actually Just Killed Apex Legends" Good, maybe they'll finally make Titanfall 3.
People can blame EA and Respawn all they want but if your a gamer and you've subscribed to the system of season/battle passes, paid for cosmetics etc at any point then your also part of the problem , if noone had bought into it in the first place then the live service nonsense wouldn't even exist . Be careful what you wish for as they say
EA had to remind us who they are
This seems like a blatant attempt to make the actual plan seem okay by first announcing something much worse.
When they inevitably change this to something less bad I can't wait for the boot lickers to say that it isn't that bad.
Because paying double instead or quadruple is totally a good thing.
Stop spending any money on free to play games. Make them free
Look, I am 100% for blaming the publisher over the developer when something shitty happens...but as a massive Titanfall 2 fan, Respawn is an exception in my mind
Between how they sat back and did NOTHING for it while it was getting hacked worse than Team Fortress 2, the fact that it was confirmed that a EA actually OFFERED TO DELAY Jedi Survivor to give them more time to finish it and a RESPAWN EXECUTIVE DECLINED, and the fact that EA was completely unaware Titanfall 3 was canceled until Apex Legends had been in development for 6 months, I don't really know what shitty decisions are on EA and what are on Respawn anymore
I will fully admit, there is some salt based bias in there, clouding my decision.
but we have proof that Respawn is not the innocent dev group that you try to make them out to be here Joe
tangent out of the way, your point about making the game as enticing as possible to want to spend money...The First Descendant has failed there while Warframe has succeeded
hell, I'd argue Warframe has succeeded better than Fortnite if Fortnite wasn't literally the only think keeping EGS afloat
But still, Warframe has gone 11 years strong at this point and is consistently heralded as having the BEST F2P model ever...and for good reason
I just want duos man. But this game has so many server issues. Disconnects errors and cheaters
I for one am looking forward to the second gaming crash
😊
Ruining games is literally the only thing EA is good at or does now a days.
I see so EA is in competition with Blizzard of who has the worst battle pass? Apex or diablo 4? Fuck live services
Just when I thought no corporation could be more stupid than Ubisoft, EA comes out swinging.
wow! who would've thought EA would become such an evil company🤔
apex is trash give us Titanfall or shutdown the studio.
I haven't played in about a year but the fact that THIS is what everyone is freaking out about, but a second premium currency was just fine? Apex players are actually insane.
Idk. I’m beginning to think it’s dice’s fault that battlefield is no longer a good franchise and I think the devs aren’t helpless and bullied.
EA
It's in the greed.
Usual EA shenanigans
0:12 Good! Don't stop doing single player! They are much more immersive worlds by nature. Witcher 3 draws you in, you're focused on Geralts story and the RICH lore, dialogue choices that have heavy impact. Your really not gonna get that kind of immersion from most pvp games.
I admit i have a chip on my shoulder against pvp, mmo, games as a service in general. Mostly stems from having the shittiest internet ever growing up and into my young adult years, feeling barred from games or features in otherwise SP games. But i also do hate the lack of story telling in those kinds of games. And it makes me hate them even more when these mega AAA studios get greedy and say "the future of gaming is live service" "the single player rpg is dead" and so on. No. You guys (AAA president or other Corpo) WANT the rpg to be dead. You WANT the future to be live service so you can make your forever game that continues to pay out without you having to put work into new games. But live service ain't easy, it isn't free money, you guys DO have to actually work on this mmo and keep content fresh almost as if you were making a new game, only constantly.
God I hope so. Want Respawn to be done with Apex so bad and just make TF3
It's premium, but more premiumer...
This is really scummy but at the same time a lot of players are already unhappy with apex because respawn doe's nothing about the cheaters or zim users and the fact that a content update for them is another 120 dollar season event your probably right about this being EAs hand in the cookie jar here with the battle pass but respawn is no saint when it comes to greed
Me, im one of those people here for Joe and not Apex. Also love you too.
Me dumb me get smart when corporaration tell me bend over give me money . Im proud of the gaming community for calling out this this scumbag investor move.
Good, Titanfall might not died in vain
ok wow i just got burned
i spent 270$ just to get the buster sword heirloom cause i love final fantasy then they introduce this
If respawn would make tf3 EA would make ao much money
What game is in the background?
Apex is dead to me, the finals is my new friend 😂
Maybe if apex falls off titanfall 3 will finally happen
In the end, only Warframe will remain ans the only Live service games if things keep this way.
What's the background game?
Now watch other companies with their live service games try and force this model down peoples throats. It will happen.
Of course its EA's fault they would charge you for ammo in a game if they could
Bullets fired directly tied to your credit card at £1 each 😂