I bought and read the Jadam book. This is an excellent video with some great tips that summarizes the book very well. Thank you. Also, I am so glad you use compost soil as an inoculate and not leaf mold as I was hoping this would work and I have plenty of compost but no leaf mold. Saved me a trip!
Facultative anaerobes can grow with or without oxygen because they can metabolise energy aerobically or anaerobically. They gather mostly at the top because aerobic respiration generates more ATP than either fermentation or anaerobic respiration. ... Unlike obligate anaerobes however, they are not poisoned by oxygen.
I am reading JADAM books, Thank-you for bring this down to earth. :) Looking forward to your other videos. Mike from Southern Oregon. I like you're using a four gallon mix.
Thanks @Mike Newsome We are working our way through this to get the system worked out in terms of scale and applications. The book is good but many times I have found what seems conflicting regarding application rates.
@@BareMtnFarm I had been reading the book for quite sometimes too and some part was contradict with my believe on the usage of livestock manure as base fertilizer. Live stock manure can be contaminated with ecoli and salmonella and should not be apply to leafy vegetable and root type vegetable. Fruiting type plant is safe. The only acceptable manure would be fish manure grown in control environment (fish tank) which is high in nitrogen (nitrate) and other nutrients depending on the fish feed (input). Unless the livestock manure had been fermented in compost (bokashi) using LAB application which will kill off ecoli and salmonella. Also the book seems like simplifying the existing KNF process by omitting the usage of IMO 1-5 with JMS, OHN with JNP??? Fermented Fruit Juice (FFJ), Bacterial Mineral Water (BMW) with phyllite powder, and etc.
You all probably dont care at all but does someone know a tool to get back into an Instagram account..? I was dumb forgot my account password. I appreciate any assistance you can offer me
@Cristiano Ramon thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site on google and Im waiting for the hacking stuff now. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
Great video guys, I’m having a go at some JMS tomorrow, so rewatching your video again and will be following along with some of your tips! Looking forward to seeing the results!
I peel 2 red new potatoes before blending and throw raw peels into the compost pile rather than deal with the skins which need to be screened. I use seperate 5 gallon paint straining bags from a box store for dunking potatoes and soil from the compost pile. You have to watch for how much frothy material forms and use immediately with dilution. I collect rain water to drench too. Thanks for the sea salt tip to get the other minerals in the mix
I wish I’d watched you before I ran this batch, but I’ll dilute it way down, gather up better materials and start again in about a week. Thanks. You made my life easier. 👍🏻
Hi @The Northern Dig The book is: JADAM Organic Farming, The Way to Ultra Low Cost agriculture. We put a link to it on our Amazon Store that you can access the link in our show notes. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your very clearly explained videos. I have been trying to follow KNF and JADAM principles for my few fruit trees, veggie gardens and I'd like to try to improve my lawn with JMS/JLF and rock dust - creeping charlie is trying to take over. I was going to try IMO4, but JMS seems to be a simpler option.
Hi @Linda Vanderbaan IMO4 is the Cadillac of microbe solutions, it is more fungal dominated than JMS and can work well when surface applied, watered in and then covered with a light mulch. JMS is heavily bacterial and protozoa dominated and designed to to its best work when heavily watered in to get it as deep below the soil surface as possible to help . JMS also works best when repeatedly applied over a growing season. Both work towards the same goal of soil improvement allowing better biology
@@BareMtnFarm thanks! I have all my fruit trees in wood chip gardens, so just not sure how well IMO4 is absorbed, but I will try in the spring, I was going to try this year, but got caught up in repeated imo collection failures.
I wish people would just use string to tie their bags up with to hang instead of plastic zip ties. The natural fiber strings will break down when thrown away, plastic thrown away we have ocean garbage patches full of. For organic farming using plastic zip ties over fiber string goes against the grain.
Great video new subscriber! I have primarily been making worm casting tea- as I have my own worm farm. I also have started using LAB in my soil. Is this similar idea to those two methods, or should this be done on top of that? Thanks!
When this brew is finished after the two days or so how long will it be viable and do you need to keep it at 74 to 74 degrees? We are in Sydney Australia and have a suburban garden which is larger than average and we try to use for mostly vegetables. Thanks. Appreciate your site. We are just starting with this JADAM and like your clear & precise instructions.
Hi @Lynn Wood JMS once at its peak is good for maybe 12 hrs at the temps you say. After that the biology is mostly fermenting anaerobes more akin to a weak liquid fertilizer called JLF or JADAM Liquid Fertilizer. Using it immediately at its peak gives the most diversity and microbe numbers. Think of it like a radioactive half life every hour past the peak reduces its diversity and count in a logarithmic progression. The warmer the temps the faster the decline after peak.
What would happen if you add aeration during your jms procedure? Would more microbiology be created or would the airbubbles disturb the microbiology that your after? Maybe experiment with aerating water for 24hrs then turn off the air pump once ingredients go in.
What zone are you in? My theory. With your better soil, less watering, plants are retaining water. As humans, When we retain water the prescription is water pills instead of fixing. Sick joke. So glad I'm not an MD I'm enjoying your video. Great explanations and info "sinks" in. Digested. Retained. Thank you. I'll be checking out your other channels. Nice you have help during filming.
Are the microbes that are produced from this method better for the garden than what EMS does to not just making cheese but also good for the garden? I've just learned to make perfect EMS from your other videos and uses it for my garden. This is very interesting as well. JMS vs EMS which do you think produces the better bacteria?
Greetings! Thank you SO much for this content. JADAM is the way. Can you please share with me your recipe for Azomite liquid? Many thx! Have a delightful day!
Never really look at it, but Dr Google says that there is a higher level of potassium and magnesium that keep the sodium level rather low. In JADAM the seasalt dilution of 1gm per liter of water the NaCl is 1/10 of a percent in solution so this is also at a low level.
Love your videos. Had never heard of JADAM until I stumbled across your video on JMS. I want to use my well water to make and dilute JMS. It is soft water, but acidic, 5.5. Can I use the well water as is or do I need to neutralize it to about 7.0?
Hi @Alan Nestico with acidic water I think it may be important to determine the root cause of the acidity. For example if its sulfur it would be harmful to the microbes as sulfur is a strong fungicide/bactericide. Lots of times it can be excess dissolved carbon dioxide, or nitrogen compounds. A water test could lead you in the right direction. Hard water ( calcium, Mg) per say doesn't necessarily harm JMS
Great video, thanks for sharing and explaining the steps so thoroughly. If you don't have access to a heater and outside temps range from 12-29 degrees Celsius (~54-84F) is this still possible to make? I would assume the lower night time temps may slow the rate down, but do you think it would still make a viable live solution?
I should have scrolled down! I just asked this as well! :) I have a feeling it would be better to charge the biochar and get it into the ground before adding the microbes but I haven't tried it yet :)
I was wondering the same . I'm charging some charcoal now with worm tea for bio-char. Last night I brewed some JMS . Both is my first time doing either ......
Could you use that to charge charcoal into biochar? (Would the microbes feed on the fish emulsion, etc instead of the potato and defeating the purpose?) Or would it be best to already have the charged biochar in the soil when adding the JMS? 🤔🤔
You can use JMS as an inoculant for charging your char. However, you would use completed fermented JMS in addition to a nitrogen food source like the fish emulsion and it would be fine.
There is a JADAM solution made with rock dusts or something like azomite. If you mix well the rock dust 1 part to 10 parts water then let the heavier rock particles precipitate to the bottom of your container the fine micro particles will remain suspended in the water. Decant this water into a separate container and use this water when making your JMS. There is not as many minerals in the rock dust water as seawater and in fact the mineral content are typically not in solution like seawater. This method will yield a cloudy water with small particles of different types of silica oxides combined with Magnesium, or Iron, or Calcium. Sea-salt can have up to 83 different minerals in solution and in the proper 30:1 dilution to mitigate the NaCl issue will be easily available to the microbes in JMS.
Nice video. I will watch it again since I have many questions. I have made LAB -after watching your video several times. Are you still using/making LAB? Thank you for sharing your experience/ experiments with us. It's fun!
Hi @Renee Bulkley Thanks for watching! Yes we still use LAB on the farm quite a bit. Our main use on plants for LAB has been in foliar applications to stop mildews or other foliar disease as well as making fermented sea water that acts a a foliar mineral boost helped by the LAB. This mineral boost tends to help give plants in the vegetative stage a boost that increases leaf size/formation. In addition we use LAB extensively in making Bokashi composting of our household food waste. We also use it as a boost in our traditional compost piles. We use the JMS as a way to boost diversity in our soil. two of the biggest improvements we have seen are reduction in soil compaction allowing deeper root growth for our plants and an increase in water holding capacity.
@@BareMtnFarm Do you have the video/cheat sheet on the frequency of application and the ratio for LAB? Was fermented sea water necessary or just diluted sea water is enough to provide the micro nutrients. I read in articles application of LAB as plant spray act as plant protective film against diseases (antifungal). It also prevent some root rot disease in hydroponic system and free up and increase the plant nutritional uptake.
LAB refers to a solution that is predominately indigenous Lacto Bacillius bacteria species in a solution, The JMS (Jadam Microoganism Solution) is a 24-72 hr ferment of the diverse indigenous bacteria, protozoa, and some fungi species found in leaf mold soil growing on a complex carbohydrate (Potato) and seasalt solution. LAB is used specifically to help with things like growth promotion or plant disease suppression and is mostly applied as a foliar feed solution. The JMS primary use is as a soil drench to boost soil biology and promote better root growth. Although JMS can be used as a foliar spray in conjunction with a wetting agent to act as a fungal disease suppressor.
How did this old babushka method changed your seed germination rate or revenue? You can put sugary water in your compost for bacteria and east and sugar for fungus domination. Tomato paste and east good as well to water starter plants after transplant.
Hi @Natalys Dubinina We haven't used the JMS on direct field seeding at this point because of our systems 90% of what we plant is from transplants so we have no data on the effects on seed germination. We use the JMS as a soil drench in the field or tunnels as a pretreatment before transplanting and as a maintenance application drench with fertilizer on already growing plants. Two of the biggest benefits we have noticed so far is a reduction in soil compaction creating a more porous root zone for our plants as well as an improvement in water retention reducing the frequencies of needing to irrigate.
We have had a cold spring/early summer (zone 6 central Pennsylvania). I make my JMS in my garage. I have not had success this year because I have a difficult time keeping the water temperature at 68 degrees over night. I've made it three times YTD and had to pour it away because the microbes (bubbles) wouldn't form. I have switched to LAB for now. I can't seem to find a water heater on line that will maintain heated water of 68 degrees or more. Does anyone know where I can purchase a water heater?
Hi @Gapeys Grub You know it may work too. I would guess that it's more concentrated so you would need to experiment with what is the right amount. Also I would think you'd want to use unmodified. my biggest concern would be what if any chemical residual would be present as part of the processes used in making the starch. In the end I would guess a real organic potato is best. I tried many JMS batches with conventional potato and had mostly failed batches.
Hi Tony, This is a bit of a segue from the video topic but I'm really excited to get into KNF/homemade solutions for my farm this year. I've just started seeding in the last couple of weeks and was wondering what you'd recommend to use to fertilize seedlings with. All of this keeping in mind I'm up in New Hampshire with about 12" inches of snow on the ground so harvesting IMO or plant materials are months away at this point. Is there anything I can get started with now for seedlings? Thank you so much! Sarah
Hi @Sarah Barkhouse We use a quick extract of worm castings as a general fertilizer for our starts. we make the extract by using approx 3 tablespoons of castings put in a mesh paint strainer bag then run lukewarm water over it to knock most of the fine particulates, humates etc into the water. We use this right away when its fresh. You can also this Spring make a general grass Jadam Liquid Fertilizer(JLF) by taking a five gallon bucket, fill it 3/4 full of fresh cut vigorous growing grasses and/or broad leaf weeds. Then fill it with water to the top add two handfuls of leaf mold or compost soil. Use a lid on the bucket to exclude air and in about 4 weeks you can begin to use this diluted 1:300 parts water. This material can be stored for use the next Spring too, it only gets better with age. However, the worm castings can probably be found locally at anytime of the year and since your already seeding is the best bet.
Well, the municipal water has chlorine or chloramines in which if these aren't neutralized they will kill off the inoculant before it can ferment. Pond water would be a good choice if its from a healthy pond and the water is not stagnant.
Hi, thank you for question. As long as the soil is above freezing, you are good to go. Our soil in zone 8b is around mid 40s so soil biology is working. Thank you so much for watching.
Hi, I have just discovered Asian jumping worms in my garden beds, and general garden area.. I am wondering if this solution will have a positive effect on them, enabling them to thrive? Does anyone have any ideas concerning this? Obviously, I do not want this outcome as they are rapidly depleting the nutrient rich top layer of my soil , soil that I have spent over 10 years building up with green manures! I really want to try this solution, but am wary of using it. Thanks.
Actually,I would guess that the JMS as a microbe solution would have little to no effect on these invasive species. A true control would have to be found in its original native Asian environment or per chance there is something in our own environment that eventually is a counterbalance. Unfortunately until something in the our eco-system can limit the population of these worms it appears that they will make a mess of things in a big way.
Would think if they heavily chlorinate the water it'll kill the microbes. If you let it sit out for 24hrs or so the chlorine will evaporate out. You can also find dechlorination tablets (basically vitamin C tablets) to speed it up :)
Hi @Tonya Pepper usually the inside living space may not be the greatest for this depending on how warm your house is. I wouldn't think spores being released into the air would be an issue but, I guess I wouldn't find it objectionable on a sun porch/utility room or something like that. I think one should view this similar to compost tea and it would best to keep it out of the main living areas.
Hi @Jeffrey You could do that and would get just as strong a brew. The purpose of using a strainer bag is to keep the amount solids from the potato skins or soil minerals from the compost soil adding particulates into the microbe solution. So if your using a sprinkler system there would be less things to plug.
No but wild birds etc eating bread. I stopped buying the shiny bird seeds because they are preserved with glyphosate. The birds took care of the gnats and they snack on pests in the garden. I give birds rinsed, air dried crushed eggs shells for the calcium nesting birds need.
Hi @C Victor Yes, you can use any plant that has a similar starch profile, so sweet potato, yam, I guess yucca if its not too sweet. The basic are that you are trying to cultivate the microbes on more complex sugars like starch so that bacteria/yeasts etc that feed on simple sugars don't dominate.
Really....just appreciate that he took his precious time to do all this for us. So if it's too slow for you then just speed things up faster. There are some of us who likes the more detail version...with love:)))
I’ve watched several how to videos on making this and yours is by far the most comprehensive and clear - thank you!
Wow, thank you! Hope it is helpful. Thanks for your comment and watching.
Your videos are very educational and pretty scientific. Thank you for sharing.
Glad you like them! Hope you find them helpful. Thanks for watching.
I appreciate your clear explanation of this concept...thank-you.
Thank you so much for watching. It is nice to hear that we explained it well and it is helpful.
I bought and read the Jadam book. This is an excellent video with some great tips that summarizes the book very well. Thank you. Also, I am so glad you use compost soil as an inoculate and not leaf mold as I was hoping this would work and I have plenty of compost but no leaf mold. Saved me a trip!
Facultative anaerobes can grow with or without oxygen because they can metabolise energy aerobically or anaerobically. They gather mostly at the top because aerobic respiration generates more ATP than either fermentation or anaerobic respiration. ... Unlike obligate anaerobes however, they are not poisoned by oxygen.
I am reading JADAM books, Thank-you for bring this down to earth. :) Looking forward to your other videos. Mike from Southern Oregon. I like you're using a four gallon mix.
Thanks @Mike Newsome We are working our way through this to get the system worked out in terms of scale and applications. The book is good but many times I have found what seems conflicting regarding application rates.
@@BareMtnFarm I had been reading the book for quite sometimes too and some part was contradict with my believe on the usage of livestock manure as base fertilizer. Live stock manure can be contaminated with ecoli and salmonella and should not be apply to leafy vegetable and root type vegetable. Fruiting type plant is safe.
The only acceptable manure would be fish manure grown in control environment (fish tank) which is high in nitrogen (nitrate) and other nutrients depending on the fish feed (input).
Unless the livestock manure had been fermented in compost (bokashi) using LAB application which will kill off ecoli and salmonella.
Also the book seems like simplifying the existing KNF process by omitting the usage of IMO 1-5 with JMS, OHN with JNP??? Fermented Fruit Juice (FFJ), Bacterial Mineral Water (BMW) with phyllite powder, and etc.
You all probably dont care at all but does someone know a tool to get back into an Instagram account..?
I was dumb forgot my account password. I appreciate any assistance you can offer me
@Damon Reginald Instablaster =)
@Cristiano Ramon thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site on google and Im waiting for the hacking stuff now.
Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
Just recently discovered your videos. Love them. I learn so much. Your wife always asks you the exact questions I need. Thank you.
Thank you so much for watching! Former school teacher, so I try to anticipate any questions. We hope our videos are helpful. Thanks, Denise.
So happy with your content as I found the recipe in the book difficult to convert into smaller batches, so THANK YOU!
Great video guys, I’m having a go at some JMS tomorrow, so rewatching your video again and will be following along with some of your tips! Looking forward to seeing the results!
I peel 2 red new potatoes before blending and throw raw peels into the compost pile rather than deal with the skins which need to be screened. I use seperate 5 gallon paint straining bags from a box store for dunking potatoes and soil from the compost pile. You have to watch for how much frothy material forms and use immediately with dilution. I collect rain water to drench too. Thanks for the sea salt tip to get the other minerals in the mix
Cheers ❤ Informative and inspiring 🎉
Glad you enjoyed it! And thank you for watching and your comment.
Great video of the process, I will be using this in my Garden beds as soon as my leaf mold is usable.
Thanks for sharing your experiences and observations! It started first brew today
I wish I’d watched you before I ran this batch, but I’ll dilute it way down, gather up better materials and start again in about a week. Thanks. You made my life easier. 👍🏻
Thank you for sharing a way to create a small batch for home gardening!
Thank you for your comment. We are hoping that this will be helpful for both a large grower and a smaller home gardener. Thanks so much for watching!
I watch this video over and over! G
Thanks so much!
Thank you for the thorough explanation. Trying this with the organic sweet potato lingering in my pantry today.
Thank you for the great info. I will be looking for the book by Youngsang Cho😊. Can’t wait to see the spring flowers 💐
Hi @The Northern Dig The book is: JADAM Organic Farming, The Way to Ultra Low Cost agriculture. We put a link to it on our Amazon Store that you can access the link in our show notes. Thanks for watching!
AWESOME video! Thank you!
Hi @Carolyn McFall Thanks so much for the kind words and welcome aboard!
Thank you sir🙏
You are very welcome. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for your very clearly explained videos. I have been trying to follow KNF and JADAM principles for my few fruit trees, veggie gardens and I'd like to try to improve my lawn with JMS/JLF and rock dust - creeping charlie is trying to take over. I was going to try IMO4, but JMS seems to be a simpler option.
Hi @Linda Vanderbaan IMO4 is the Cadillac of microbe solutions, it is more fungal dominated than JMS and can work well when surface applied, watered in and then covered with a light mulch. JMS is heavily bacterial and protozoa dominated and designed to to its best work when heavily watered in to get it as deep below the soil surface as possible to help . JMS also works best when repeatedly applied over a growing season. Both work towards the same goal of soil improvement allowing better biology
@@BareMtnFarm thanks! I have all my fruit trees in wood chip gardens, so just not sure how well IMO4 is absorbed, but I will try in the spring, I was going to try this year, but got caught up in repeated imo collection failures.
I do that until 3 years and it work the vegetables is growing fast and more big
No more weed
Super! Thanks for sharing your results.
I really appreciate you!
Has any research, experience been done on JMS and or LAB on its positive/negative affect on Mycorrhizae in soil root zones.
This worked well for me first time
I wish people would just use string to tie their bags up with to hang instead of plastic zip ties. The natural fiber strings will break down when thrown away, plastic thrown away we have ocean garbage patches full of. For organic farming using plastic zip ties over fiber string goes against the grain.
Great video new subscriber! I have primarily been making worm casting tea- as I have my own worm farm. I also have started using LAB in my soil. Is this similar idea to those two methods, or should this be done on top of that? Thanks!
When this brew is finished after the two days or so how long will it be viable and do you need to keep it at 74 to 74 degrees? We are in Sydney Australia and have a suburban garden which is larger than average and we try to use for mostly vegetables.
Thanks. Appreciate your site. We are just starting with this JADAM and like your clear & precise instructions.
Hi @Lynn Wood JMS once at its peak is good for maybe 12 hrs at the temps you say. After that the biology is mostly fermenting anaerobes more akin to a weak liquid fertilizer called JLF or JADAM Liquid Fertilizer. Using it immediately at its peak gives the most diversity and microbe numbers. Think of it like a radioactive half life every hour past the peak reduces its diversity and count in a logarithmic progression. The warmer the temps the faster the decline after peak.
What’s the difference between making JMS and LABs and is it useful for same purposes I would appreciate to know more on this please
What would happen if you add aeration during your jms procedure? Would more microbiology be created or would the airbubbles disturb the microbiology that your after? Maybe experiment with aerating water for 24hrs then turn off the air pump once ingredients go in.
What zone are you in?
My theory. With your better soil, less watering, plants are retaining water.
As humans, When we retain water the prescription is water pills instead of fixing. Sick joke.
So glad I'm not an MD
I'm enjoying your video. Great explanations and info "sinks" in. Digested. Retained.
Thank you. I'll be checking out your other channels. Nice you have help during filming.
Can I use Himalayan pink salt instead of sea salt OR does it have to be sea salt because it works better? Thank you.
Are the microbes that are produced from this method better for the garden than what EMS does to not just making cheese but also good for the garden? I've just learned to make perfect EMS from your other videos and uses it for my garden. This is very interesting as well. JMS vs EMS which do you think produces the better bacteria?
Any idea if this solution would be good to inoculate Biochar with, or should I brew compost tea for that?
Greetings! Thank you SO much for this content. JADAM is the way. Can you please share with me your recipe for Azomite liquid? Many thx! Have a delightful day!
Thanks!
The addition of sea salt is interesting. Pegs the question, what is the percentage of salt in seaweed?
Never really look at it, but Dr Google says that there is a higher level of potassium and magnesium that keep the sodium level rather low. In JADAM the seasalt dilution of 1gm per liter of water the NaCl is 1/10 of a percent in solution so this is also at a low level.
Love your videos. Had never heard of JADAM until I stumbled across your video on JMS.
I want to use my well water to make and dilute JMS. It is soft water, but acidic, 5.5. Can I use the well water as is or do I need to neutralize it to about 7.0?
Hi @Alan Nestico with acidic water I think it may be important to determine the root cause of the acidity. For example if its sulfur it would be harmful to the microbes as sulfur is a strong fungicide/bactericide. Lots of times it can be excess dissolved carbon dioxide, or nitrogen compounds. A water test could lead you in the right direction. Hard water ( calcium, Mg) per say doesn't necessarily harm JMS
Thanks for the video. Would you be willing to explain what you see under the microscope. Is this about a 1:1 ratio bacteria to fungi? Thanks again
how much of the watered down solution do you apply per plant?
Great video, thanks for sharing and explaining the steps so thoroughly.
If you don't have access to a heater and outside temps range from 12-29 degrees Celsius (~54-84F) is this still possible to make? I would assume the lower night time temps may slow the rate down, but do you think it would still make a viable live solution?
I'm wondering.....
Can this be used to charge bio-char ?
I plan on making my own bio- char this year . Thanks for your response.....
I should have scrolled down! I just asked this as well! :)
I have a feeling it would be better to charge the biochar and get it into the ground before adding the microbes but I haven't tried it yet :)
They replied! Check out their answer :)
I was wondering the same . I'm charging some charcoal now with worm tea for bio-char. Last night I brewed some JMS .
Both is my first time doing either ......
Could you use that to charge charcoal into biochar? (Would the microbes feed on the fish emulsion, etc instead of the potato and defeating the purpose?) Or would it be best to already have the charged biochar in the soil when adding the JMS? 🤔🤔
You can use JMS as an inoculant for charging your char. However, you would use completed fermented JMS in addition to a nitrogen food source like the fish emulsion and it would be fine.
@@BareMtnFarm Perfect! Thank you! :)
Can you use the water that the potatoes boiled in for the solution
Yes, you can add it if you like. Just not boiling water. Thanks for watching
Can I use basalt instead of sea salt?
Great series1
There is a JADAM solution made with rock dusts or something like azomite. If you mix well the rock dust 1 part to 10 parts water then let the heavier rock particles precipitate to the bottom of your container the fine micro particles will remain suspended in the water. Decant this water into a separate container and use this water when making your JMS. There is not as many minerals in the rock dust water as seawater and in fact the mineral content are typically not in solution like seawater. This method will yield a cloudy water with small particles of different types of silica oxides combined with Magnesium, or Iron, or Calcium. Sea-salt can have up to 83 different minerals in solution and in the proper 30:1 dilution to mitigate the NaCl issue will be easily available to the microbes in JMS.
@@BareMtnFarm Fascinating! I completely understand, thanks for such a detailed logical reply…cheers
I followed your process until you introduced the "inoculant" ... what is that? There was no mention of an inoculant up to that point.
The "inoculant" is whatever you use to seed the solution with microbial life. In JMS that is usually leaf mold, but you can also use good compost.
Nice video.
I will watch it again since I have many questions.
I have made LAB -after watching your video several times. Are you still using/making LAB?
Thank you for sharing your experience/ experiments with us. It's fun!
Hi @Renee Bulkley Thanks for watching! Yes we still use LAB on the farm quite a bit. Our main use on plants for LAB has been in foliar applications to stop mildews or other foliar disease as well as making fermented sea water that acts a a foliar mineral boost helped by the LAB. This mineral boost tends to help give plants in the vegetative stage a boost that increases leaf size/formation. In addition we use LAB extensively in making Bokashi composting of our household food waste. We also use it as a boost in our traditional compost piles. We use the JMS as a way to boost diversity in our soil. two of the biggest improvements we have seen are reduction in soil compaction allowing deeper root growth for our plants and an increase in water holding capacity.
@@BareMtnFarm There is so much to learn. Thank you so much.
@@BareMtnFarm Do you have the video/cheat sheet on the frequency of application and the ratio for LAB? Was fermented sea water necessary or just diluted sea water is enough to provide the micro nutrients.
I read in articles application of LAB as plant spray act as plant protective film against diseases (antifungal). It also prevent some root rot disease in hydroponic system and free up and increase the plant nutritional uptake.
Could you tell me what the difference between LABs and this?
LAB refers to a solution that is predominately indigenous Lacto Bacillius bacteria species in a solution, The JMS (Jadam Microoganism Solution) is a 24-72 hr ferment of the diverse indigenous bacteria, protozoa, and some fungi species found in leaf mold soil growing on a complex carbohydrate (Potato) and seasalt solution. LAB is used specifically to help with things like growth promotion or plant disease suppression and is mostly applied as a foliar feed solution. The JMS primary use is as a soil drench to boost soil biology and promote better root growth. Although JMS can be used as a foliar spray in conjunction with a wetting agent to act as a fungal disease suppressor.
Can we use azomite or glacier rock dust (mineral amendments) instead of sea salt?
How did this old babushka method changed your seed germination rate or revenue? You can put sugary water in your compost for bacteria and east and sugar for fungus domination. Tomato paste and east good as well to water starter plants after transplant.
Hi @Natalys Dubinina We haven't used the JMS on direct field seeding at this point because of our systems 90% of what we plant is from transplants so we have no data on the effects on seed germination. We use the JMS as a soil drench in the field or tunnels as a pretreatment before transplanting and as a maintenance application drench with fertilizer on already growing plants. Two of the biggest benefits we have noticed so far is a reduction in soil compaction creating a more porous root zone for our plants as well as an improvement in water retention reducing the frequencies of needing to irrigate.
@@BareMtnFarm thanks so much! Do you grow any fancy asters or English Lavander? If so , can you please make a video?
We have had a cold spring/early summer (zone 6 central Pennsylvania). I make my JMS in my garage. I have not had success this year because I have a difficult time keeping the water temperature at 68 degrees over night. I've made it three times YTD and had to pour it away because the microbes (bubbles) wouldn't form. I have switched to LAB for now. I can't seem to find a water heater on line that will maintain heated water of 68 degrees or more. Does anyone know where I can purchase a water heater?
Have you tried using store bought potato starch? I wonder if that would work as well.
Hi @Gapeys Grub You know it may work too. I would guess that it's more concentrated so you would need to experiment with what is the right amount. Also I would think you'd want to use unmodified. my biggest concern would be what if any chemical residual would be present as part of the processes used in making the starch. In the end I would guess a real organic potato is best. I tried many JMS batches with conventional potato and had mostly failed batches.
I guess my only question is whats the difference between JMS and doing like a batch of worm castings thats aerated?
Im sorry if I missed it but how long does the jms last
Is the soil bucket stored with just a cloth covering, or a tight lid? Why was no mineral powder added to the brew bucket?
Hi Tony, This is a bit of a segue from the video topic but I'm really excited to get into KNF/homemade solutions for my farm this year. I've just started seeding in the last couple of weeks and was wondering what you'd recommend to use to fertilize seedlings with. All of this keeping in mind I'm up in New Hampshire with about 12" inches of snow on the ground so harvesting IMO or plant materials are months away at this point. Is there anything I can get started with now for seedlings? Thank you so much! Sarah
Hi @Sarah Barkhouse We use a quick extract of worm castings as a general fertilizer for our starts. we make the extract by using approx 3 tablespoons of castings put in a mesh paint strainer bag then run lukewarm water over it to knock most of the fine particulates, humates etc into the water. We use this right away when its fresh.
You can also this Spring make a general grass Jadam Liquid Fertilizer(JLF) by taking a five gallon bucket, fill it 3/4 full of fresh cut vigorous growing grasses and/or broad leaf weeds. Then fill it with water to the top add two handfuls of leaf mold or compost soil. Use a lid on the bucket to exclude air and in about 4 weeks you can begin to use this diluted 1:300 parts water. This material can be stored for use the next Spring too, it only gets better with age.
However, the worm castings can probably be found locally at anytime of the year and since your already seeding is the best bet.
Sadly, no leaf mould anywhere in my area .... not even at the parks.
Could you use cornstarch and substitute for potato starch
If you had a choice between treated municipal water or pond water, which would you use?
Well, the municipal water has chlorine or chloramines in which if these aren't neutralized they will kill off the inoculant before it can ferment. Pond water would be a good choice if its from a healthy pond and the water is not stagnant.
Does this JMS work on vegetable plants in the garden ?
How warm does the soil need to be outside before I start this program?
Hi, thank you for question. As long as the soil is above freezing, you are good to go. Our soil in zone 8b is around mid 40s so soil biology is working. Thank you so much for watching.
Hi, I have just discovered Asian jumping worms in my garden beds, and general garden area.. I am wondering if this solution will have a positive effect on them, enabling them to thrive? Does anyone have any ideas concerning this? Obviously, I do not want this outcome as they are rapidly depleting the nutrient rich top layer of my soil , soil that I have spent over 10 years building up with green manures! I really want to try this solution, but am wary of using it. Thanks.
Actually,I would guess that the JMS as a microbe solution would have little to no effect on these invasive species. A true control would have to be found in its original native Asian environment or per chance there is something in our own environment that eventually is a counterbalance. Unfortunately until something in the our eco-system can limit the population of these worms it appears that they will make a mess of things in a big way.
If you dilute JMS with chlorinated city water is that OK? Will the chlorine kill the microbes if the diluted solution is used right away?
Would think if they heavily chlorinate the water it'll kill the microbes. If you let it sit out for 24hrs or so the chlorine will evaporate out. You can also find dechlorination tablets (basically vitamin C tablets) to speed it up :)
@@michaelriddick7116 Good observation about vit C. I know vit C reacts with iodine and chlorine is also a halogen.
Can you use sweet potato instead of regular potato?
Hey,l which flowers should I grow in may??
Can I do this in my house where it’s warmer? Or do you need to be careful of potentially introducing spores of things into your interior spaces?
Hi @Tonya Pepper usually the inside living space may not be the greatest for this depending on how warm your house is. I wouldn't think spores being released into the air would be an issue but, I guess I wouldn't find it objectionable on a sun porch/utility room or something like that. I think one should view this similar to compost tea and it would best to keep it out of the main living areas.
GREAT VIDEO. BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO MAKE YOUR MEASUREMENTS MORE VIEWER FRIENDLY LIKE A QUARTER CUP INSTEAD OF GRAMS.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll try to make sure to give both. We have quite a few folks who view from outside the U.S. too. Thanks for watching!
Can i just sink the soil and potato into the solution when making the JMS? Without hanging them?
Hi @Jeffrey You could do that and would get just as strong a brew. The purpose of using a strainer bag is to keep the amount solids from the potato skins or soil minerals from the compost soil adding particulates into the microbe solution. So if your using a sprinkler system there would be less things to plug.
Jadam produc ok
Can i use sweet potato?
dry oat , cooked oats?
Ive just started making it with white bread because i can get it for free, seems to work fine, anyone else tried this?
No but wild birds etc eating bread. I stopped buying the shiny bird seeds because they are preserved with glyphosate. The birds took care of the gnats and they snack on pests in the garden. I give birds rinsed, air dried crushed eggs shells for the calcium nesting birds need.
@@smas3256 I'm talking about making JMS with bread, what are you talking about?
I don’t have a scale
could we use other form of starch like yam or yucca?
Hi @C Victor Yes, you can use any plant that has a similar starch profile, so sweet potato, yam, I guess yucca if its not too sweet. The basic are that you are trying to cultivate the microbes on more complex sugars like starch so that bacteria/yeasts etc that feed on simple sugars don't dominate.
Darnit getting organic potatoes ain't easy
We agree! It is getting really hard to find them. Hope you are successful and thank you for watching.
Can you store this by using molasses or brown sugar?
No. It's recommended that you use it immediately.
Seems like such a small amount of leaf mold and potato, has anyone else tried using these small volumes of leaf mold and potato?
do not use roundup is just poison
Yep, that's why we haven't used it in over 12 years. Hated the smell of it when I did use it.
I like the process but whatta boring dude ...it took him 35 minutes to do a ten minutes presentation
Just increase the play back speed
Hi @The Atlantis Report I'll keep this brief..... ;)
@@BareMtnFarm thank you
Really....just appreciate that he took his precious time to do all this for us. So if it's too slow for you then just speed things up faster. There are some of us who likes the more detail version...with love:)))