@Rose Jones Why do you think it is wrong for white people to advocate for their collective interests in exactly the same way every other race on the face of the earth does? Seems to me that browns are the true bigots. Also, have you actually considered what the consequences might be if you keep pushing whites nto a corner? Do you really think we are going to just roll over and surrender our lands? We're pretty fearsome when we are angry. I wouldn't keep poking the bear if I were you.
@@straylight2378 Pushing whites into a corner? You really must live in an alternate world that does not exist. Black people are being killed by police in US, because they are black, they are stopped more frequently by police because they are black, they are considered criminals because they are black, but sure, white people are the victims. White people need their interests to be promoted, when white people in US and elsewhere occupy positions of power and benefit from systemic racism, however indirectly-- That is classic racist speak. Congratulations, you, are a racist, thank you for letting us know. So many racists coming out of the woodwork whenever there is a talk like this.
@@wurple6353 Black people (note; not violent career criminals) killed in the US .In a week when many thousands of black people have been hacked to death with machetes in Ethiopia .Their crime?To belong to the wrong tribe.If the police were to abandon black areas in the US the same thing would happen and then they would come for you.Perhaps not machetes.Maybe knives or guns.But they would come.This is far from saying all blacks are criminals but they will be the best armed and most willing to go on the rampage.Portland:most liberal city.Result:worst possible outcome for innocent people.
If you were born in a forest and raised by wolves you would act like a wolf (there's literally a case of this happening). You wouldn't wander off to watch top gear and drink tea...
@@benbow7 It doesn't matter if you're genetically Japanese or not in that case you're still Japanese and the only connection between you and someone born in England would be that you look more like them. You still have nothing culturally in common
"anti-racists" always purposefully confuse two things. One, the fact that different races exist with different characteristics. Two, that agreeing with point one means that you are against other races or think some are superior than others. There is no doubt that there are different races, this has been proved scientifically time and time again. Different races even have different bone structures.
Simon TV I'm a biologist. All the evidence there is now points towards "race" being a social construct rather than a biological fact I'm afraid. Just because people look different but that's not related closely to how similar they are in terms of all other aspects of their biology.
you're missing the point. It's OKAY to be white. Not it's GREAT. It makes no negative assertion on anything else. Some ppl have placed posters of this in various places and ppl have called the police in response, called it a hate crime, that's it's a racist message. How can it be racist to say it's okay to be the colour your born? place a sign saying it's okay to be black and noone calls the police. Do you not see the lunacy?
I'm not white but I am very happy that you are happy being yourself; moreover, I'm happy that you have not had to endure the crushing oppression of people who look like you, i.e. if you live in a country where white people have run amok. I do not believe in "race".
The tories undercut the unionists by mass migration. And made loads off it. Migrants make our country money. Class war attacking white working class communities is a rich white man attack. Not a Muslim or black attack...
Race is a social construct but social constructs are how we interact with the world. That doesnt mean it's a scientifically accurate or helpful set of associated traits, terms and ideas. And culture isn't downstream of race, whatever that means. It's more complicated. Their cultural identity is British, as said near the start of the interview. For some populations - or ethnicities - perhaps they converted to a religion as a clan group, ethnicity, or have a largely tribal/ethnicity-speficfic religion - which is one reason why it's hard to seperate racism and religious hatred. And anyway? What is your concluding point, again!? Nobody is the same, within populations and between them, so what!? The nature of that difference is badly mythologised. Genetic diversity encodes all sorts of traits, broad-brush pigmentation categories tied with general geography don't make for general trait sets or sound correlations, neither do small data sets either. Within Africa there is more variation in skin colour & pigmentation than in the rest of the word put together, and diaspora communities, such as african americans are distinct again, but it's not directly tied to their pigmentation or representative of the nominal construct or group - but it is to do with variations of rare & specific muscle twitch genetics that are part of general variation, to the point that it's not a racial genetic characteristic by any means. Just a culutural phenmena that a few black people who are good at running do running.
Africa (or "black people") is way more genetically diverse than everywhere else so humanity is more likely to develop in africa? That's what I'd say anyway he didnt explain that particularly well. Tbf scientists tend to explain what they know and when they can't answer something they just keep quiet - that's not to say racist tropes are correct tho. We don't know what created the universe but that doesn't mean there definitely is a god. I think he's saying Africa's super genetically different so technically to characterise every one that's Africa as one "black group" is just wrong. Black people aren't quick, some Africans from certain areas are quick but it's nothing to do with blackness, more diet/peace/sporting education/lifestyle over years etc.
@James Smith you should. If you can educate that country, feed that country and take care of the health of that country's people then it'd be economically good within a generation or so.
The genetics of skin color is a fascinating topic that reveals how complex traits are influenced by multiple genes and environmental factors. Recent research has expanded our understanding of the genetic basis of pigmentation and how it contributes to the diversity of skin colors in humans. How can we use our understanding of the genetics of skin color to foster a more nuanced appreciation of human diversity while addressing misconceptions and stereotypes? What role can genetic research play in promoting inclusivity and challenging the social constructs that have historically been associated with skin color?
Evolution did occur. Just not in the way that people previously assumed. Some people once thought that the sun revolved around the earth. Now we know it's the other way around.
your surroundings influence you and help shape your identity. Your genes have certain properties that can manifest differently in different surroundings.
@@sonofalbion5444 we were no where near ethnically homogenous in the 80s/90s...never have been - Welsh and gealic Irish/gaelic Scottish is more British than English. English is based on latin/french/German.
@@eddouglas Have you ever been out of your gated community and travelled the world? If you have travelled the world you would know that people are far from all the same.
If I was born in Nigeria to the British ambassador of Nigeria , that wouldn’t make me Nigerian. I’d be an Englishman in Nigeria. This isn’t hard folks. It’s not rocket science.
@@TheCatsMeow771 well its brown people being very openly racist about white people claiming that they are racist..... oldest trick in the book........ immigration needs to be reversed in every white owned country
@@Mungo658 what did they even say about white people that you were so offended by? That pale skin was adapted as a result of moving to cooler climates? 🤦🏽♀️
This idea that race is just about skin color, totally ridiculous. Consider the golfer Vijay Singh, he's much darker than Tiger woods (both brilliant players btw) but no one would consider Singh to be black.
I dated a Lilly white girl from England. I found out that her grandmother was from India and that there are a lot of people from India who are English. Something she took for granted and something that never sunk in from learning English history.
Wow ! So many negative comments about this interview, get a grip people. Dr Rutherford new book is amazing, we needed this book years ago. Keep up the good work adam.
Remember, folks, despite the fact that human populations evolved in relative isolation from one another over enormous periods of time, and often in response to drastically different environmental selection pressures, WE ARE ALL THE SAME!
They did not evolve in relative isolation! They have always intermingled and interbred. We are not that genetically diverse from each other. I am a biologist, what you're saying is bullshit. You can believe in pseudo-science all you want, that does not make it true.
@@wurple6353 "I am a biologist" is just another way of saying ".I am right,no need to put my case." Of course ,races have evolved in relative isolation.Just one generation of interbreeding between ,say ,a sub saharan African and a European IMMEDIATELY produces an individual that is distinct from both . If you were a biologist you would know about ring species.A series of relatively isolated populations that can still produce fertile offspring until the ring is closed.We then have separate species.Not happened with humans but the differences are HUGE,especially regarding intelligence.In percentage terms we are not so genetically different.But that comparison can be made with a chimpanzee too.Small GENETIC differences can affect the PHENOTYPE greatly.
There was no such a think as isolation. We roamed freely considering land barriers etc, admixed and produced humans who did the same over and over again
I love when non scientists have such confidence against literally scientists. It's weird how someone's brain can work like that and think they're right. It must be called something in psychology
That's true socio-economic factors are huge influencer of our being. Those who have will turn out well and those who lack them end up not doing well in life. The African continent is what it is because of the meddling of POWERS FROM developed countries because these countries have EMBOLDEN THEM TO BE CORRUPT HENCE THE POOR LIVING STANDARDS of the local people. ITS THE GOOD OLD DIVIDE LOOT AND RULE.
Great interview and good to hear Rutherford talk, am currently reading the book, really helpful to one who knows nothing about genetics and wants to argue with casual racists.
People evolved in Africa, but populations have moved out of Africa and back to Africa constantly throughout history. Hair and lip size changed to deal with different climates.
When you grow up inside a given population of people, your brain is trained on the people and faces that you see. Your brain learns to distinguish between them. Conclusion must be that anybody growing up in Europe has brains trained to differentiate people in a totally different way from who grew up in Africa, India, or China. It should be no surprise when you find that differentiating between people and recognizing them is surprisingly difficult if you go to places where most people look different from your home. This is how our brain and cognition works.
@hulkface121 Don't get me wrong, i'm no fan of C4, but i'm pretty sure its UA-cam who's doing the deleting. I also have my comments regularly deleted or shadow banned.
What does it mean though!? He didn't say it was a lie, he said it was meaningless and wasn't tied to or representative of the population's genetic traits on the whole. The race-myth of different muscle types being racially specific is the lie; and that is competing against the ideas of socially mediated selection, environmental factors, acting on raising the profile of a successful subset: membership of which is a mixture of those social mediating/social-selecting factors and general variation in relevant traits and not representative of the whole set - such that he lovingly tags to freaks! Average black person isn't a latent sprinter necessarily. It's difficult to even define a group to average from, but so far as people do steretypes are not gentic inherent traits across the population and are unfair steretypes. Within black peoples, there are opposite tropes - Kenyans have a big part in long distance running and though altitude is a part of it, it's not the whole story. But that blows apart the story that it's all black people have a pro-sprinting trait, because the muscle trait is opposite. There are factors selecting against swimming prowess that he listed that are all social.
Race is just about relatedness. That's all it is. We care more about our closer relatives than we do of those who are less closely related. The host shows his lack of understanding at about 11.45 in the video. Inbreeding is more or less the basis of race. There's nothing rude about it!
Does he ever address directly the arguments of racists. I need ammo against them. (Such as average IQ being different between races). He seems to talk but say nothing at all!
He says it's because wealth and food and education of an area is more indicative of IQ than race. If you change the wealth, health and education of an area, of any race, the IQ will improve in line with it.
@@eddouglas that isn't in line with the empirical evidence though is it? The U.S. army have the best complete records on IQ; and on average it seems to vary by race.
thank you. I've thought for many years that IQ tests are cultural, and yes about the prioritising abstract thinking, but I'm not a scientist... My Ma was a rare working class pupil at grammar school and she said she practised with IQ tests and got better. I've never fully done one but found them a bit pointless and didn't get anywhere with them, but I have achieved education to MA level. there's the great book: Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race by Reni Eddo-Lodge Like the phrase "Scientific activism"!
This is BS. The concept of race and ethnicity occurred way before white superiority and eugenics. People who say it's a new concept are wrong. Tribes of differing phenotypes (genetic traits), thousands of years ago, would have understood they are of a different heritage/ethnic origin than those that had differing traits, like skin colour, eyes, hair, size etc etc.
Question.... Can color be altered by hormonal treatment ie genetic engineering? Can ppl change skin eye hair color by taking hormones? Have racists been suppressing research into skin color in order to maintain racism?
I have one more reason to say that race is real. Race is a dumb word to use, but it's well embedded in our lexicon by now, so race it is. It's real that the darker someone's skin is in majority white places, the more that person suffers in ways that are well documented in research. Interactions with law enforcement, in the workplace, Black mothers especially as they die in childbirth at a greater rate than lighter skinned people, and they experience more negative outcomes in general across almost all areas of life. So for politicians representing those areas who say that race is a construct and if we stop talking about it, it will go away and it's our fault for talking about it, to them I say, you damn well BETTER start seeing color and they better keep seeing it as long as Black women and others continue to die at rates much higher than with whites in the same situations, same facilities, same country, etc., with no medical or physical or skin-color-related reason for it.
In the human genome sequences, there exist of 2 main pigment components called Dark melanin (Eumelanin) and the paler called pheomelanin. All beings have it in them to be ALL colors. We all have the same genes and there genes will express themselves in terms of physical traits depending on the environment. What causes human skin to take on a specific color has nothing to do with them being different races. The whole different races thing is completely false by the way. A human beings skin color is determined by where they live. All human beings need sunlight. The two lowest sub-dermal layers of your skin contains a light reactive substance called dehydrocholesterol. 7-dehyrocholesterol contains inactive forms of vitamin D1 and D2. When sunlight hits the skin and the 7-dehydrocholesterol, it’s molecular structure changes the inactive D1 and D2 into active D3 or cholecalciferol. D3 is used to process calcium which is used to repair bones, joints, cartilage and smooth surface in your veins and arteries called the endothelium. The endothelium is your immune system’s communication system and provides a smooth surface for the blood to flow through. Without proper amounts of calcium your bones will soften (called rickets) and your immune system will begin to crumble. When people are in hot climates they produce more eumelanin (DARK MELANIN) and less pheomelanin to protect the skin and hair from sunlight.Hence the reasons of AFROS. Afros also expand in a 360 outward direction synonymous to the sun, it’s what keeps the person cool under the sunlight. In place where it’s cold , they drop the dark melanin and produce more pheomelanin. This is because in order to make the vitamin D3, the human animal needs sun and in those areas lighter skin allows for the taking advantage of what available light there is resulting in paler skin colors. Skin color is nothing more than the human body adapting to an environment trigger. I take full pride while being aware my genetic and anatomical structure is superior biologically since Blacks are the original and first dwellers of Earth
@Chad Pandapneumonium so you're saying that Europeans are a different human species? What is race? It's a shame how ignorant one can be and still be condescending. Have another listen to Adam Rutherford, and pay attention this time.
Did you know Rutherford's big argument against the idea of ethnic indigeneity (of the British, but we suppose everyone) is that the Beaker folk largely replaced the hunter gatherers (the darker skinned group that Cheddar Man came from) 4,400 years ago and therefore "no country, people, political power or border is permanent" (book quote). So you were newcomers 4,000 years ago British people, you have no claim to Britain ㋡ This is the intellectual calibre of the writer and by extension his whole oeuvre, including this most recent book, now getting free advertising by C4.
This is utter nonsense. He contradicts himself less than two minutes it when he says ‘of course there is a biological basis to social constructs.’ Cool so race exists and it’s genetic. Thanks.
This guy calls himself a geneticist. But what he really is is an ideologue who's only interested in deconstructing European Identities. But makes a fool of himself while trying to do so. For example he tried to deconstruct British/English identity by bringing up the Roman invasions... while forgetting that the Romans left absolutely no detectable genetic lineage in Britain. We are a north-west European nation and this island has always been the home to Northwest-Europeans.
Wow, my family tree just dead ends right at my great grandparents. Especially because my Ukrainian great grandparents were born in modern day Ukraines but at the time it was Poland and then the wars sent my side of the family running from country to country until they got to the US.
There are almost no alleles that have the same frequencies between the races, which is why you can take a drop of saliva and say which race that person is.
Darwin's theory of Natural Selection means that the environment selects populations adapted to living in that environment. Darwin knew nothing about genes, but he knew that natural selection meant that descendants became better adapted to their environments than their ancestors. Professor Rutherford is one of the world's leading defenders of the Theory of Natural Selection and can produce many proofs that a population living in one environment has different adaptations to populations living in different environments.
He's wrong, read Lewontins Fallacy by Edwards. There is differences between populations that have a genetic basis, even if most of human genetic diversity is found within populations, a small percentage is found across geographic populations and that is what people consider "race" or "ethnicity". Ultimately, the racial differences, ie the phenotypes/traits that the various different people have of the globe, are genetic adaptations to the varying climates/environments (skin for UV, nose for air temp, eye changes for UV, temp or dust differences, body size, head size, bone density, blood types to fight different diseases), OR some of the genetic changes are random mutations to do with sexual selection and not specifically adaptations to the environment. But to claim these phenotypical differences are not real or don't correlate closely among geographic populations is pure wokerati BS. Hence it is way more fairer to say that race in that sense (small genetic trait differences across geographic populations) does exist and is real, even if its a tiny part of the total genome.
Quite correct. Darwin's theory of Natural Selection means that the environment selects populations adapted to living in that environment. Darwin knew nothing about genes, but he knew that natural selection meant that descendants became better adapted to their environments than their ancestors. Professor Rutherford is one of the world's leading defenders of the Theory of Natural Selection and can produce many proofs that a population living in one environment has different adaptations to populations living in different environments.
@@MartinWillett reading many of the replies you wouldn't have thought so. With so many replies commenting on Nationalism and "whiteness" I find it difficult to believe any of those understand that humanity began in Africa and that all of our earliest ancestors would've been darker skinned.
@Peter R Negroid is a term used to describe people who either are negroes or are obviously closely related or directly ancestral to them. If you don't like the term the thing it described does not go away in exactly the same way as banishing the word cripple doesn't help a single person to walk. These people exist and they had ancestors. It is important to know who they are and how they came to be as they are. Science is about discovering what is, not what should be admitted.
@@sonofalbion5444 how was slow mo not using slander? He did a racist impression.. Tbh I won't reply again, I'm watching the video again and IF you understand it, you would have your questions answered.
I'm happy to teach people to be kinder to one another and to try to ignore race. As long as our leaders agree to keep the native English a majority in their country. If not, I can't help but feel we're being prepped for our replacement which is unacceptable. Also, I'm happy that you agreed on Iq levels. No one really cares about bone density and fast twitch muscle fibers.
Yea like Channel 4 would ever dare to have someone on to argue the opposing case on this topic. I am surprised they even allowed comments and I think allowing comments was probably an oversight/mistake.
I’m not impressed with this perspective as it’s very insulting to us superior Europeans. Why are you in the UK 🇬🇧 ? Who invited you to invade the country?
long as it's anti-European it is not racist
So stupid
@Rose Jones You sound like every other ungrateful minority voice, resentful of white success, blaming others for your own failures.
@@Alice-cp9sy >leg up
Name one
Europe is not a race.
Damn, pushing that propaganda real hard. You know their trying to repair those holes in the dam when they're rapid firing with that propaganda lately.
@Rose Jones Why do you think it is wrong for white people to advocate for their collective interests in exactly the same way every other race on the face of the earth does? Seems to me that browns are the true bigots.
Also, have you actually considered what the consequences might be if you keep pushing whites nto a corner? Do you really think we are going to just roll over and surrender our lands? We're pretty fearsome when we are angry. I wouldn't keep poking the bear if I were you.
@@straylight2378 Pushing whites into a corner? You really must live in an alternate world that does not exist. Black people are being killed by police in US, because they are black, they are stopped more frequently by police because they are black, they are considered criminals because they are black, but sure, white people are the victims. White people need their interests to be promoted, when white people in US and elsewhere occupy positions of power and benefit from systemic racism, however indirectly-- That is classic racist speak. Congratulations, you, are a racist, thank you for letting us know. So many racists coming out of the woodwork whenever there is a talk like this.
@@wurple6353 Black people (note; not violent career criminals) killed in the US .In a week when many thousands of black people have been hacked to death with machetes in Ethiopia .Their crime?To belong to the wrong tribe.If the police were to abandon black areas in the US the same thing would happen and then they would come for you.Perhaps not machetes.Maybe knives or guns.But they would come.This is far from saying all blacks are criminals but they will be the best armed and most willing to go on the rampage.Portland:most liberal city.Result:worst possible outcome for innocent people.
If you are born in a stable it doesn't make you a horse. If I was born in Japan, that does not make me Japanese. It makes me an English man in Japan.
That's a shitty comparison also it doesn't make you genetically Japanese it makes you culturally Japanese if you're raised that way
If you were born in a forest and raised by wolves you would act like a wolf (there's literally a case of this happening). You wouldn't wander off to watch top gear and drink tea...
@@eddouglas You might act like a wolf it would not make you an actual wolf.
@@eddouglas but you wouldn't be genetically a wolf.
@@benbow7 It doesn't matter if you're genetically Japanese or not in that case you're still Japanese and the only connection between you and someone born in England would be that you look more like them. You still have nothing culturally in common
"anti-racists" always purposefully confuse two things. One, the fact that different races exist with different characteristics. Two, that agreeing with point one means that you are against other races or think some are superior than others. There is no doubt that there are different races, this has been proved scientifically time and time again. Different races even have different bone structures.
Simon TV FFS. did you watch the video? Or are you just a thick racist?
Mark M Are they the only two options then?
Simon TV I'm a biologist. All the evidence there is now points towards "race" being a social construct rather than a biological fact I'm afraid. Just because people look different but that's not related closely to how similar they are in terms of all other aspects of their biology.
Except that isn't true.
@@robkstatistics8224 Are different animals species a social construct as well then or does evolutionary biology not apply to humans?
I'm going to buy this book, I need the 'right tools' for when I have a conversation with David lammy.
David's knowledge is predominantly on how to deceive voters. He erks me something chronic.
#ItsOKToBeWhite
@tejano151 funny. No.
you're missing the point. It's OKAY to be white. Not it's GREAT. It makes no negative assertion on anything else.
Some ppl have placed posters of this in various places and ppl have called the police in response, called it a hate crime, that's it's a racist message. How can it be racist to say it's okay to be the colour your born? place a sign saying it's okay to be black and noone calls the police. Do you not see the lunacy?
www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/its-okay-to-be-white
I love being white and I love my fellow white people.
John Groyper Yes brother.
Delusional Albino, you re not White, your Pink
I'm not white but I am very happy that you are happy being yourself; moreover, I'm happy that you have not had to endure the crushing oppression of people who look like you, i.e. if you live in a country where white people have run amok. I do not believe in "race".
Stop lying, there is nothing white about you, your skin color is not white
You people never learn anything. Why are you people so stupid?
We were never asked
The tories undercut the unionists by mass migration. And made loads off it. Migrants make our country money. Class war attacking white working class communities is a rich white man attack. Not a Muslim or black attack...
Culture is downstream from race, therefore race is not a social construct. Race Realism folks...........we are not all the same.
Race is a social construct but social constructs are how we interact with the world. That doesnt mean it's a scientifically accurate or helpful set of associated traits, terms and ideas. And culture isn't downstream of race, whatever that means. It's more complicated. Their cultural identity is British, as said near the start of the interview. For some populations - or ethnicities - perhaps they converted to a religion as a clan group, ethnicity, or have a largely tribal/ethnicity-speficfic religion - which is one reason why it's hard to seperate racism and religious hatred. And anyway? What is your concluding point, again!? Nobody is the same, within populations and between them, so what!? The nature of that difference is badly mythologised. Genetic diversity encodes all sorts of traits, broad-brush pigmentation categories tied with general geography don't make for general trait sets or sound correlations, neither do small data sets either. Within Africa there is more variation in skin colour & pigmentation than in the rest of the word put together, and diaspora communities, such as african americans are distinct again, but it's not directly tied to their pigmentation or representative of the nominal construct or group - but it is to do with variations of rare & specific muscle twitch genetics that are part of general variation, to the point that it's not a racial genetic characteristic by any means. Just a culutural phenmena that a few black people who are good at running do running.
So......it is still not explaining why on 100 meter sprint I just see black folkes. Why no Koreans?
Africa (or "black people") is way more genetically diverse than everywhere else so humanity is more likely to develop in africa? That's what I'd say anyway he didnt explain that particularly well. Tbf scientists tend to explain what they know and when they can't answer something they just keep quiet - that's not to say racist tropes are correct tho. We don't know what created the universe but that doesn't mean there definitely is a god. I think he's saying Africa's super genetically different so technically to characterise every one that's Africa as one "black group" is just wrong. Black people aren't quick, some Africans from certain areas are quick but it's nothing to do with blackness, more diet/peace/sporting education/lifestyle over years etc.
@James Smith you should. If you can educate that country, feed that country and take care of the health of that country's people then it'd be economically good within a generation or so.
The genetics of skin color is a fascinating topic that reveals how complex traits are influenced by multiple genes and environmental factors. Recent research has expanded our understanding of the genetic basis of pigmentation and how it contributes to the diversity of skin colors in humans. How can we use our understanding of the genetics of skin color to foster a more nuanced appreciation of human diversity while addressing misconceptions and stereotypes? What role can genetic research play in promoting inclusivity and challenging the social constructs that have historically been associated with skin color?
So many competing interests with an investment in the race myth. Even the people experiencing racism.
Classic case of he protests too loudly.....
Race is real, stop denying evolution.
Evolution did occur. Just not in the way that people previously assumed.
Some people once thought that the sun revolved around the earth. Now we know it's the other way around.
your surroundings influence you and help shape your identity. Your genes have certain properties that can manifest differently in different surroundings.
@@sonofalbion5444 we were no where near ethnically homogenous in the 80s/90s...never have been - Welsh and gealic Irish/gaelic Scottish is more British than English. English is based on latin/french/German.
@@eddouglas when I went into Manchester in the 1980s most of the people were like me. Now they aren't.
@@benbow7 yeah they are, they're just brown mate...
@@eddouglas Have you ever been out of your gated community and travelled the world? If you have travelled the world you would know that people are far from all the same.
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It's ok to have skin
If I was born in Nigeria to the British ambassador of Nigeria , that wouldn’t make me Nigerian. I’d be an Englishman in Nigeria. This isn’t hard folks. It’s not rocket science.
Which race?
It's also irrelevant to discussions of race.
That's a nationality
And yet what would you call yourself if you were born in Australia???
Self-identification also counts.
He's just another Race Grifter ! What a load of nonsense.
It's science
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R2d2 you nutter
Great interview!
I'm proud to be Chinese, said the Chinaman.
I'm proud to be Latino, said the Mexican.
I'm proud to be white, said the racist.
Skank Hunt42 I’m stealing that if it’s ok with you?!
👊
@Peter R yet US census uses it
You can say proud to be european or English or German in line with Chinese or mexican, not white. What a stupid
Hope you manage to find some skanks at some point.
O man its so clear the sheer intent of these people
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Care to explain?
@@TheCatsMeow771 well its brown people being very openly racist about white people claiming that they are racist..... oldest trick in the book........ immigration needs to be reversed in every white owned country
@@Mungo658 so you're just young around admitting you're racist for literally no reason? 💀
@@Mungo658 what did they even say about white people that you were so offended by? That pale skin was adapted as a result of moving to cooler climates? 🤦🏽♀️
This idea that race is just about skin color, totally ridiculous. Consider the golfer Vijay Singh, he's much darker than Tiger woods (both brilliant players btw) but no one would consider Singh to be black.
I dated a Lilly white girl from England. I found out that her grandmother was from India and that there are a lot of people from India who are English. Something she took for granted and something that never sunk in from learning English history.
@7.56 ''What does it mean to British''.
OK then Adam,but will you also ask; ''What does it mean to be Jewish??
Watching all his videos now. A very wise and down to earth man as well as learned.
Adam David Rutherford is half Jewish, half Hindu, so it is not surprising that he fights for secularism in Britain. Fuc.... Christ-killers!
Wow ! So many negative comments about this interview, get a grip people. Dr Rutherford new book is amazing, we needed this book years ago. Keep up the good work adam.
Yes, I've been pretty shocked by some of the comments here too. I think Adam is an excellent communicator, and made a lot of good points.
want me to tell him in person?
whats the book youre talking about?
Remember, folks, despite the fact that human populations evolved in relative isolation from one another over enormous periods of time, and often in response to drastically different environmental selection pressures, WE ARE ALL THE SAME!
They did not evolve in relative isolation! They have always intermingled and interbred. We are not that genetically diverse from each other. I am a biologist, what you're saying is bullshit. You can believe in pseudo-science all you want, that does not make it true.
@@wurple6353 "I am a biologist" is just another way of saying ".I am right,no need to put my case." Of course ,races have evolved in relative isolation.Just one generation of interbreeding between ,say ,a sub saharan African and a European IMMEDIATELY produces an individual that is distinct from both . If you were a biologist you would know about ring species.A series of relatively isolated populations that can still produce fertile offspring until the ring is closed.We then have separate species.Not happened with humans but the differences are HUGE,especially regarding intelligence.In percentage terms we are not so genetically different.But that comparison can be made with a chimpanzee too.Small GENETIC differences can affect the PHENOTYPE greatly.
There was no such a think as isolation. We roamed freely considering land barriers etc, admixed and produced humans who did the same over and over again
I love when non scientists have such confidence against literally scientists. It's weird how someone's brain can work like that and think they're right. It must be called something in psychology
That's true socio-economic factors are huge influencer of our being. Those who have will turn out well and those who lack them end up not doing well in life. The African continent is what it is because of the meddling of POWERS FROM developed countries because these countries have EMBOLDEN THEM TO BE CORRUPT HENCE THE POOR LIVING STANDARDS of the local people. ITS THE GOOD OLD DIVIDE LOOT AND RULE.
Read about nurture and nature
Good thing there are so many qualified evolutionary biologists in the comment section.
Great interview and good to hear Rutherford talk, am currently reading the book, really helpful to one who knows nothing about genetics and wants to argue with casual racists.
Adam David Rutherford is half Jewish, half Hindu, so it is not surprising that he fights for secularism in Britain. Fuc.... Christ-killers!
So, how long have dark-skin people been in Africa? How does the hair texture and lips change over time?
People evolved in Africa, but populations have moved out of Africa and back to Africa constantly throughout history. Hair and lip size changed to deal with different climates.
Read a book.
It's funny how the dislike numbers have dropped here from the 190's to the 170's in the last 15 minutes?
The book ought to be titled 'how to make money from exploiting the fake accusation of 'racism'
Yep, right you are Adolf.
even a social construct has a biological basis to it, but then he goes on to babble
When you grow up inside a given population of people, your brain is trained on the people and faces that you see. Your brain learns to distinguish between them. Conclusion must be that anybody growing up in Europe has brains trained to differentiate people in a totally different way from who grew up in Africa, India, or China.
It should be no surprise when you find that differentiating between people and recognizing them is surprisingly difficult if you go to places where most people look different from your home.
This is how our brain and cognition works.
If there's one thing to give C4 credit for, is not disabling the comments and like/dislike ratio.
@hulkface121 Don't get me wrong, i'm no fan of C4, but i'm pretty sure its UA-cam who's doing the deleting. I also have my comments regularly deleted or shadow banned.
How is it a lie to say that people of African decent dominate sprinting (among many other sports)? Please explain.
It's not a lie, nor did anyone claim the contrary.
What does it mean though!? He didn't say it was a lie, he said it was meaningless and wasn't tied to or representative of the population's genetic traits on the whole. The race-myth of different muscle types being racially specific is the lie; and that is competing against the ideas of socially mediated selection, environmental factors, acting on raising the profile of a successful subset: membership of which is a mixture of those social mediating/social-selecting factors and general variation in relevant traits and not representative of the whole set - such that he lovingly tags to freaks! Average black person isn't a latent sprinter necessarily. It's difficult to even define a group to average from, but so far as people do steretypes are not gentic inherent traits across the population and are unfair steretypes. Within black peoples, there are opposite tropes - Kenyans have a big part in long distance running and though altitude is a part of it, it's not the whole story. But that blows apart the story that it's all black people have a pro-sprinting trait, because the muscle trait is opposite.
There are factors selecting against swimming prowess that he listed that are all social.
"you've taken a data point like Cummings has and you haven't done the work to understand the context of that to understand what that actually means"
Beethoven was black which is what he didn’t know
Race is just about relatedness. That's all it is. We care more about our closer relatives than we do of those who are less closely related. The host shows his lack of understanding at about 11.45 in the video. Inbreeding is more or less the basis of race. There's nothing rude about it!
Great interview! Will buy the book!
Proud to be white!
Pride comes before a fall.
Proud of fiction?😬
White doesnt really exist. You have a lot of stuff in your blood. White is just the outward appearance of your pigment not producing much melanin
For a guy who doesn't like negative characteristics associated with race he certainly abandons that quickly when discussing white europeans.
Well you know how it is. nothing positive comes from inbreeding, especially your three breasted sister with an Adams apple the size of Bournemouth.
Does he ever address directly the arguments of racists. I need ammo against them. (Such as average IQ being different between races). He seems to talk but say nothing at all!
He says it's because wealth and food and education of an area is more indicative of IQ than race. If you change the wealth, health and education of an area, of any race, the IQ will improve in line with it.
@@eddouglas that isn't in line with the empirical evidence though is it? The U.S. army have the best complete records on IQ; and on average it seems to vary by race.
@@eddouglas You obviously didn't read my info graphic about the Myths of race.
Why do you need ammunition against them? What power do racists have?
Point of correction! Kim Collins won with a time above 10 seconds long after 1980.
Very interesting x
Europeans have a lot to be proud of. I know first hand that many of my people agree.
Like what?
@@arash4712 We harbored the great Jewish people for many years.
Great video! I love science, especially biology.
Adam David Rutherford is half Jewish, half Hindu, so it is not surprising that he fights for secularism in Britain. Fuc.... Christ-killers!
thank you.
I've thought for many years that IQ tests are cultural, and yes about the prioritising abstract thinking, but I'm not a scientist... My Ma was a rare working class pupil at grammar school and she said she practised with IQ tests and got better. I've never fully done one but found them a bit pointless and didn't get anywhere with them, but I have achieved education to MA level.
there's the great book: Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race by Reni Eddo-Lodge
Like the phrase "Scientific activism"!
Finally discovered another like minded human speaking to the myth of race. How to influence a massive shift of the generations of minds?
This is BS. The concept of race and ethnicity occurred way before white superiority and eugenics. People who say it's a new concept are wrong. Tribes of differing phenotypes (genetic traits), thousands of years ago, would have understood they are of a different heritage/ethnic origin than those that had differing traits, like skin colour, eyes, hair, size etc etc.
Question.... Can color be altered by hormonal treatment ie genetic engineering? Can ppl change skin eye hair color by taking hormones? Have racists been suppressing research into skin color in order to maintain racism?
Pink?
I have one more reason to say that race is real. Race is a dumb word to use, but it's well embedded in our lexicon by now, so race it is. It's real that the darker someone's skin is in majority white places, the more that person suffers in ways that are well documented in research. Interactions with law enforcement, in the workplace, Black mothers especially as they die in childbirth at a greater rate than lighter skinned people, and they experience more negative outcomes in general across almost all areas of life. So for politicians representing those areas who say that race is a construct and if we stop talking about it, it will go away and it's our fault for talking about it, to them I say, you damn well BETTER start seeing color and they better keep seeing it as long as Black women and others continue to die at rates much higher than with whites in the same situations, same facilities, same country, etc., with no medical or physical or skin-color-related reason for it.
How about you debate Ed Dutton mr big brain?
@Peter R Adam havent published any paper that related to the race question
lololololol Dutton ( a fraudulent race scientist ) debating an established scientist id love to watch it
In the human genome sequences, there exist of 2 main pigment components called Dark melanin (Eumelanin) and the paler called pheomelanin. All beings have it in them to be ALL colors. We all have the same genes and there genes will express themselves in terms of physical traits depending on the environment. What causes human skin to take on a specific color has nothing to do with them being different races. The whole different races thing is completely false by the way. A human beings skin color is determined by where they live. All human beings need sunlight. The two lowest sub-dermal layers of your skin contains a light reactive substance called dehydrocholesterol. 7-dehyrocholesterol contains inactive forms of vitamin D1 and D2. When sunlight hits the skin and the 7-dehydrocholesterol, it’s molecular structure changes the inactive D1 and D2 into active D3 or cholecalciferol. D3 is used to process calcium which is used to repair bones, joints, cartilage and smooth surface in your veins and arteries called the endothelium. The endothelium is your immune system’s communication system and provides a smooth surface for the blood to flow through. Without proper amounts of calcium your bones will soften (called rickets) and your immune system will begin to crumble. When people are in hot climates they produce more eumelanin (DARK MELANIN) and less pheomelanin to protect the skin and hair from sunlight.Hence the reasons of AFROS. Afros also expand in a 360 outward direction synonymous to the sun, it’s what keeps the person cool under the sunlight. In place where it’s cold , they drop the dark melanin and produce more pheomelanin. This is because in order to make the vitamin D3, the human animal needs sun and in those areas lighter skin allows for the taking advantage of what available light there is resulting in paler skin colors. Skin color is nothing more than the human body adapting to an environment trigger.
I take full pride while being aware my genetic and anatomical structure is superior biologically since Blacks are the original and first dwellers of Earth
@Chad Pandapneumonium so you're saying that Europeans are a different human species? What is race? It's a shame how ignorant one can be and still be condescending. Have another listen to Adam Rutherford, and pay attention this time.
"Wishes they had this book at Christmas"... me too I ran out of toilet paper at one point.
White European gentle LOL I almost fall off my chair. I cannot believe someone said that. It's too funny.
Did you know Rutherford's big argument against the idea of ethnic indigeneity (of the British, but we suppose everyone) is that the Beaker folk largely replaced the hunter gatherers (the darker skinned group that Cheddar Man came from) 4,400 years ago and therefore "no country, people, political power or border is permanent" (book quote).
So you were newcomers 4,000 years ago British people, you have no claim to Britain ㋡ This is the intellectual calibre of the writer and by extension his whole oeuvre, including this most recent book, now getting free advertising by C4.
When will they isolate the gene that makes Canadians so much better at Hockey than Americans?
This is utter nonsense. He contradicts himself less than two minutes it when he says ‘of course there is a biological basis to social constructs.’
Cool so race exists and it’s genetic. Thanks.
'Biological basis to' does not mean 'completley explained by'. Good god you people are dense.
This guy calls himself a geneticist. But what he really is is an ideologue who's only interested in deconstructing European Identities. But makes a fool of himself while trying to do so.
For example he tried to deconstruct British/English identity by bringing up the Roman invasions... while forgetting that the Romans left absolutely no detectable genetic lineage in Britain. We are a north-west European nation and this island has always been the home to Northwest-Europeans.
Two racists meet in a room
#TheBellCurve Was that book a thing..?
Wow, my family tree just dead ends right at my great grandparents. Especially because my Ukrainian great grandparents were born in modern day Ukraines but at the time it was Poland and then the wars sent my side of the family running from country to country until they got to the US.
The UK 🇬🇧 should clarify who belongs in the United Kingdom but they should also remove Charlie before the real English clean house.
#ItsOkToBeWhite 🏴
18:20 I'm glad he debunked those ancestry/ dna tests. 21:20
There are almost no alleles that have the same frequencies between the races, which is why you can take a drop of saliva and say which race that person is.
Blair Peach wasn't murdered. He died of death by misadventure, while taking part in a riot.
No he was beaten to death by cops. And he wasn't rioting.
Absolutely fantastic interview. Imagine what life would be like without racism and bigotry.
@@sonofalbion5444 if you don't like it emigrate............
@@eddouglas we were never asked.
Imagine a fairy tale world where race doesn't exist, yea amazing argument.
Very racist content
What is race 1:55
Race is an invention from people that didn´t know better, like religions.
Darwin's theory of Natural Selection means that the environment selects populations adapted to living in that environment.
Darwin knew nothing about genes, but he knew that natural selection meant that descendants became better adapted to their environments than their ancestors.
Professor Rutherford is one of the world's leading defenders of the Theory of Natural Selection and can produce many proofs that a population living in one environment has different adaptations to populations living in different environments.
He's wrong, read Lewontins Fallacy by Edwards. There is differences between populations that have a genetic basis, even if most of human genetic diversity is found within populations, a small percentage is found across geographic populations and that is what people consider "race" or "ethnicity". Ultimately, the racial differences, ie the phenotypes/traits that the various different people have of the globe, are genetic adaptations to the varying climates/environments (skin for UV, nose for air temp, eye changes for UV, temp or dust differences, body size, head size, bone density, blood types to fight different diseases), OR some of the genetic changes are random mutations to do with sexual selection and not specifically adaptations to the environment. But to claim these phenotypical differences are not real or don't correlate closely among geographic populations is pure wokerati BS. Hence it is way more fairer to say that race in that sense (small genetic trait differences across geographic populations) does exist and is real, even if its a tiny part of the total genome.
Quite correct.
Darwin's theory of Natural Selection means that the environment selects populations adapted to living in that environment.
Darwin knew nothing about genes, but he knew that natural selection meant that descendants became better adapted to their environments than their ancestors.
Professor Rutherford is one of the world's leading defenders of the Theory of Natural Selection and can produce many proofs that a population living in one environment has different adaptations to populations living in different environments.
Question for many who have replied in this thread. Do you accept evolution?
Of course. How else are you going to explain anything beyond "I suppose that's the way God wanted it to be, but I can't think why"?
@@MartinWillett reading many of the replies you wouldn't have thought so. With so many replies commenting on Nationalism and "whiteness" I find it difficult to believe any of those understand that humanity began in Africa and that all of our earliest ancestors would've been darker skinned.
@Peter R Of course. Eliminate the word and you eliminate the concept. Yeah right.
@Peter R Negroid is a term used to describe people who either are negroes or are obviously closely related or directly ancestral to them. If you don't like the term the thing it described does not go away in exactly the same way as banishing the word cripple doesn't help a single person to walk. These people exist and they had ancestors. It is important to know who they are and how they came to be as they are. Science is about discovering what is, not what should be admitted.
@Peter R okay Africans are genetically diverse, your point?
Swim is essential for every human.
But not grammar.
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Look at all the BNP/EDL scum going mental in the comments 🤢🤢
@Shlomo Figginfredobergstein The EDL, ike all European far-right groups, are right up your street. Anti-Islam is codeword for pro-White.
I down voted this and I also down voted UNWAShED
@Google UN Replacement migration - Get out?
Great stuff
Mr. Rutherford is quite fixated or frozen in his mind that he is myopic! He should always ask, “what if I am Wrong?
No black classical composers? Samuel Coleridge Taylor.
Ask him to explain the great success of Europeans and why Africans have never come close to our technological advances.
I love how mad these videos make the "race realists"
@Shlomo Figginfredobergstein slander is the last bastion of an argument lost
@@sonofalbion5444 yeah you're correct then, because of your realism... Any proof?
@Shlomo Figginfredobergstein so etymologically you win the argument...what about scientific proof? Any of that knocking about?
@@sonofalbion5444 how was slow mo not using slander? He did a racist impression.. Tbh I won't reply again, I'm watching the video again and IF you understand it, you would have your questions answered.
When Europeans arrived in Southern African 500 years ago African were living in mud huts. Today they are still living in mud huts.
Inherent flaws in logic. Justifying not being a snowflake. Judging charisma seems to be judging intent.
@Peter R ya, really. Dont know, maybe its all a figment of our imaginations.
I'm happy to teach people to be kinder to one another and to try to ignore race. As long as our leaders agree to keep the native English a majority in their country. If not, I can't help but feel we're being prepped for our replacement which is unacceptable. Also, I'm happy that you agreed on Iq levels. No one really cares about bone density and fast twitch muscle fibers.
Confirmation bias is a thing, just incase anyone wants to understand the comments to this video...
Look who's talking
@@NotQuiteFirst I know you are so what am I....
@@NotQuiteFirst this guy uses science, what you got?
Yea like Channel 4 would ever dare to have someone on to argue the opposing case on this topic. I am surprised they even allowed comments and I think allowing comments was probably an oversight/mistake.
@James Smith I don't think genetics is pseudoscience
Sherlock Holmes would think the Hound of the Baskervilles had come to haunt him in his grave.This guy is BARKING.
Oi dumb dumb, Sherlock Holmes didn't exist.
It’s awesome to be white 👌
I’m not impressed with this perspective as it’s very insulting to us superior Europeans. Why are you in the UK 🇬🇧 ? Who invited you to invade the country?
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