Goku Black VS Gohan Black
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- Опубліковано 22 гру 2024
- Goku Black VS Gohan Black. Sparking Zero Dragon Ball made a What if where Gohan's body was used instead of Goku's by Zamasu. Due to Gohan continuing to train. So how strong would Gohan Black be? How would he go against Goku Black!
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Yeah this was some hot ass
@@AventSir 😭 TY for the heart just that latter half of the vid was just a huge leap.
there is Super Saiyan 3 Goku Black in Super Dragon Ball Heroes and he even have tail. and maybe if heroes keep continue it's story, we will see Super Saiyan 4 Goku Black.
You’re not making sense because gohan is a mutant saiyan and he has way more potential than goku does and he tap into higher levels of power than goku can!!!!
Ngl using heroes for goku black to win seems like cope to me
it’s extreme cope
frfr by that logic we gotta wait for gohan black to appear in heroes for a real 1 to 1 comparison lol
@@ShadowSkullChris yeah and if that happens gohan black would be stronger cause he would end up with a variation of beast or start stacking ssj blue on top of the ultimate form or something
@@Nathan24634 Divine beast gohan black sounds cold af
@@RicardoKoeiThe divine beast goes unnecessarily hard
i think its unfair to compare heroes to sparking zero characters personally
It's fair. As ssj2 vegeta I defeated ssj3 goku in a sparking episode.
@@agentnukaz1715depends to the degree. Heroes is too much. Would be best to just use another sparking zero episode
@@agentnukaz1715 yeah uh no. Using sparking zero to say it's fair to compare sparking zero to friggin dragon ball heroes scaling is insane sparking is a little more accurate and not wonky
Honestly, if we're going to compare Heroes to Sparking characters, then we should contemplate a hypothetical Beast Gohan Black into the mix.
that would be CRAZY
wouldn’t matter even if gohan black got beast goku black bs power ups would just close the gap and his abilities
@@Toddles Gohan black would have the same bs power ups if not more so not really an argument
@@ToddlesI think a fair comparison would be Berserk Beast Gohan Black (we know Gohan can lose control if he outputs too much power in Beast, including Heroes scaling as well) vs FPSSR Goku Black would be a fair comparison
Y'all really ready to shamelessly use Heroes before letting Goku lose? 💀
We really just can't have Goku lose
LMAOOOO
There's no way you used Heroes instead of the actual source material... Even Cooler, who's weaker than pre-cell saga SSJ Goku, is OP in heroes
Did you forget friza,m cooler is stronger in cannon and has more potential. He did the exact same thing has friza the GODLY push-ups. ☠️☠️☠️☠️
@@sarthakarora3212 except his point still stands as golden cooler didn't just surpass his brother he surpassed ssjb kaiokenx20 fusion character lvls of power
Hereos is canon
@@hardcoore_gyt9254 yes but not to the main timeline which is what should have only been referred to heroes is cannon to itself first and foremost with every character in it scaling far far above anything they do in super or z in some cases
Ture but I still like the video
Using Heroes scaling is crazy lol
I like the idea of Gohan Black more than what we got, just imagine the idea of Trunks old master and friend being his enemy
Tbf it is just zamasu in his body not really a evil Gohan. Just like goku black
@@massmurdertron51 shhh
@@massmurdertron51yeah but unlike Goku Black, Gohan was an actual father figure for Trunks. Having him die against the androids just to return as Gohan Black would probably fuck Future Trunks up mentally like crazy
Exactly what I told friends of mine. And goku would have to fight his on son. Makes it way more emotional
@@TsunaTakahiro no it wouldn't because he is not fighting his son its zamasu
If Zamasu chose Gohan's body over Goku's. The answer is obvious isn't it?
Gohan black should be stronger than Goku Black.
No, heroes goku black is stronger then sparking gohan black
If we also just stick to what-ifs, it’s possible for Goku Black to beat Vegetto Blue without fusing
if vegito toys with goku black and hurts him without finishing him yes he can powerup and beat vegito
Gohan black has this same thing
@@firefistace5230 no he doesn’t
@@jschannel6319 yes he does bro if you played the game he has all goku black moves
@@jschannel6319 also bruh do you watch dragon ball z all sayians have this it a zenkai boost
Lol bro never use heros in a debate like this its liberal a fan service promo anime for the real series. Soon as you start talking about heros i cant entertain this. Im cool with heros characters coming to the game. Had it in raging blast but using it for this what if feels like a huge azz pull 😂
Heros is written by Toyotaro and the same writers that wrote the what ifs. Heros team and anime share writers too.
@@sarthakarora3212 yeah but the what if is a what if of the anime not of heroes it's unfair because literally everyone in heroes scales above there main anime counterpart
While the what if stays in line scaling wise with the anime that's why it was cheap to use heroes scaling
Using heroes is basically an instant win button it isn't fair unless we bring other broken characters
@@sarthakarora3212 again heros is a PROMOTIONAL ANIME for the main show not Canon in any manner. The what's ifs aren't Canon but it's using the CANON for its scenario. If it used heros for it's scenario that would make sense but it does not so using heros in this is random AF
I prefer Gohan Black as a story beat as to Goku Black. It made more sense and would've been more impactful
no because its literally goku story
The gohan we got
Super gohan
The gohan we wanted sparking zero gohan
Why are you using Heroes when that’s not connected at all nor the same Goku black plus again if your using adaption plus potential on top it’s not close and again if where going there Gohan black in beast form would be overkill if they did that
Gohan black is exponentially stronger than goku black no debate.
I do agree with power beating hax in most cases, but your point on trunks negating Zamasu's immortality is just wrong. In the manga Zamasu gets back up and forms clones, and in the anime although his physical body was destroyed due to his immortality being compromised his spirit fused with the universe to compensate. I definitely wouldnt say that SoH Trunks was strong enough to negate his immortality especially when even Beerus said that he couldn't. Zeno being able to do it is a special case as it seems his erasure is different than GoDs
Using Heroes isn't fair
Needing dbh feats shows gohan black is stronger also
Gohan is stated to be stronger in this verse and base Gohan black was keeping up with ssj2 and Goku in the goku black arc was able to momentarily beat fused zamasu or at least knock him out with kaioken ssb while fused zamasu gohan needed gohan whos stronger than goku and goku himself then gohan and trunks and i dont beleive rage trunks is stronger than goku but they're blatantly showing gohan black is stronger
Goku didn’t need kaioken to defeat him gohan kept begging him to and Goku obliged
@@AfroTsu while he didn't need kaioken to win him beating Gohan in just blue wasn't assured and even the narrator supports this
“Begging” is crazy, respect my goat
Using scaling from the main series isn't reliable here since in the what-if, Gohan is confirmed stronger than Goku and Vegeta post-U6 Arc, which would include SSBKK Goku
@@righteousone5119at what point is that confirmed?
@@agentnukaz1715Gohan is the main character in the what if and he fought hit instead. I don’t think it was confirmed but it should be obvious imo
Gohan Black is definitely stronger due to Gohan's potential. IMO I would've preferred Gohan Black instead of Goku Black as well.
it wouldn't make anysense for a gohan black
@@nickalas666 It would if they knew how to write him properly instead of making him weaker and then unlocking his old strength over and over again. It would hold more sentimental value due to Trunks and Gohans relationship. In the Buu saga Gohan was essentially the mc.
@@nickalas666It would make sense if they decided that Gohan should partake in the Destroyer Tournament and was pushed to his limits to get back into shape and Zamasu seeing Gohan as blasphemous for obtaining power through gods (the ultimate ritual) even tho he is just a mortal that should “know his place” and become insecure of Gohan’s power. Then have Trunks be terrorized by fighting someone that has the same image of his past master. Then it gives even more plot reasons to show Gohan improving and training and seeing the results of his training by showing the constant back and forth between Gohan and Gohan Black. Then for thematic reasons have the hybrid saiyans be the ones who have most of the spot light instead of Vegeta and Goku which goes all the way back to the Cell Arc where Goku wanted the new generation (Gohan SSJ2) to be the ones that save Earth in the future. Then the Super Hero movie probably would have sat better with people who feel like Gohan’s power up was undeserved, even tho Gohan has been training since his embarrassing encounter with Frieza. But seeing Gohan more in the story and seeing his improvements instead of just hearing about it occasionally would have been better writing.
@@How_SpXdez calling it poor writing for gohan when gohan has establish he doesn't like fighting and there would be zero reason for him to keep training after the buu saga.so we are going to take that zero training gohan and put him up against freiza who is stronger than him and say he is gonna win that fight then go on to beat hit,does actual make sense to you?.just because it would evoke some emotion in trunks doesn't mean it would make sense for a gohan black.there could be a vegeta black and it would make more sense than a gohan black story because it wouldn't be some bs saying gohan getting stronger from getting angry.no one gives a shit about gohan being the mc for a short period of time.
@@nickalas666 Were are not talking about Vegeta Black as he doesn't exist. This about Gohan.
Terrible video. Who use heroes as canon power level. Obviously gohan has better potential than goku. So gohan black will be far more powerful than goku blakc ever could.
Its fair in a scaling video. He never stated he was only using 1 version of goku black. You scale characters at there highest
@@jh_dances2221no it’s not dragon ball hero’s is a hole other time line that doesn’t line up with super every single character in that show is op even yamcha
What's the point in using DB Heroes? You said it yourself, Xeno Goku Black got that strong mostly through external factors (E.G.: Time Breaker Mask and the energy accumulated from the fake universe) lol.
Also, in the OG Future Trunks arc Goku, Trunks and Vegeta all three surpassed Goku Black at the end since they were capable of overpowering Fusion Zamasu in beam struggles (especially Goku since he damaged Fusion Zamasu and deformed him with a full power kamehameha), just like Gohan and Trunks in the What if.
Yeah not gonna lie throwing heros in here was just too much. Like I get they’re both non canon but anything from hero’s is just actually bullshit
If we're going to bring heroes in, then we have to acknowledge how Future Gohan fought god Xeno Trunks, who would have FAR surpassed merged Zamasu. Keep in mind whatever potential Future Gohan has would actually be even less than even the canon Gohan simply due to not having his potential unlocked by the Elder Kai.
Zamusus inherent god ki+Gohans potential is dangerous
Gohan Black should have more potential thanks to Gohan’s superior body/potential, and should be able to do even more than what Goku Black could do in Heroes. Feel like Heroes shouldn’t have been used lol
My guess would be gohan black just because fohan has more potential than goku and therefore gohan black should have more potential than goku black did as well than the ultimate form seems to be relative to potentially superior to the blue form so divine potential (gohan blacks ultimate form) should be relative if not better than ssj rose
Having to resort to heroes scaling for Goku black just proves that Gohan black is stronger as heroes scales massively above the main series while the what if stays for the most part in line with the canon story
@Nathan24634 exactly what I'm saying 😂
@@Nathan24634yeah. Ultimate Gohan Black outscales SSBKK Goku, let alone Rosé Goku Black
Thought this would be a good discussion until you brought up Heroes to justify Goku Black’s win.
Your supposed to scale character at there strongest. Its fair. He never stated it was just going to be super goku black. Its comp versions
You know, despite it just being a Pink Aura, it looks oddly clean with Gohan Black's Ultimate
Gohan would win, He has more potential than Goku! Zamasu would have sense that hidden power and would easily learn to bring it to the surface! IMO
They really had to Sit hero's down and ride it to high heaven for goku to win.
Heroes lwk kinda mickey cause that timelines goku black LITERALLY just got lucky enough to get saved by FU. He also gave him the ability to travel to other universes so he could GAIN that power. You give gohan black the same opportunity, he is getting some shi like beast rose or smth and cooking just like goku black.
Beast Gohan Black slaps Black Frieza silly idc what anyone says
So Gohan Black is stronger and would have been the objective best option for Zamasu when you don’t include pure fanservice into the equation. As Expected Goathan reigns supreme
Except when he jobbers
@@hurricane7727 he never jobbed so it's all good then
It would’ve been neat if after Zamazu’s wish and the evil containment wave we got the revival of Future Gohan and a sparring match with him in the story. What Gohan is this supposed to be? I’m pretty sure Trunks changing the past doesn’t actually change how many people are dead in his future so he shouldn’t have a Gohan let alone one who’s married.
Heros to win 💀
They always use comics for marvel or dc or use non canon anime or feats when a character obviously loses like yall power scalers can’t let yall characters that yall glaze take a L 😞
Going to heroes for Goku Black to be “stronger” is a wild stretch and unfair.
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It is even stated many many many times that if Gohan would just get off his ahh and train like he is supposed to he would be just as strong or even stronger than Goku and Vegeta. Gohan is also really damned smart so not only would he be strong he would be a good strategist in the battlefield like Goku is from time to time. So mixing Gohan’s strength & potential + Zamasu’s cunning intellect would (imo) wipe the floor with goku black.
Not really. Goku Black could make clones of himself and in the manga similarly had Crazy Powers
@@hurricane7727gohan black dead ass has this he zamasu as well it not a exclusive for him
@@hurricane7727in the Manga Black wasn't even all that compared to his anime counterpart. Vegeta himself was embarrassing him and they only left back to the past to find a way to seal Zamasu. Both were massive push overs in the manga
@firefistace5230 Gohan doesn't have Goku's combat Experience though. Hes been in way more fights than Gohan Has and in Super Show in the sparring match Goku still won that Fight(Zamasu arc Goku is weaker than Top Arc Goku who had Ultra Instinct).
@@hurricane7727 idk and what sparring match your looking at but goku lost that sparring match even vegeta said the only thing keeping goku in this fight is the fact he can auto Dodge and has more experience then gohan then vegeta even says gohan just out speed it but he still more experience then gohan
I wouldn't at all use Dragonball Heroes variations in such a topic like this or understand why doing so.
We didn't need to go into Heroes to understand Goku Black has great potential, Heroes is inconsistent in power constantly and characters get insane power ups just for more dramatic flair.
If Goku Black in the original timeline had such an insane growth like Heroes then there would be no hope, Goku Black wouldn't even feel concerned to use fusion.
Goku Black would outright solo Vegito blue if it was Heroes.
The Heroes Goku Black isn't even the same one and has completely different scaling to a series that has versions of Goku that could 1 tap current Goku in canon while being in base.
You can't compare canon Dragonball to Heroes. Especially when one of the characters doesn't even have a Heroes counterpart, that is what I think at least.
Gohan is so op in sparking zero😭
So a version of Gohan who might actually deserve beast form?
100% deserves it. He locked tf in with training and completely surpassed Goku and Vegeta
@@righteousone5119 exactly, this Gohan deserves the beast form more than the one we got in superhero
Gohan black was a better concept then goku black ill die by that
The Arc played out better too
another professional black goku rider. i thought u were the smart unbiased one what happened avent
Gohan Black Beast sounds absolutely insane
Honestly I think they should’ve waited to add Gohan black and could’ve used the “I killed your family” line to give him “beast” in this what if scenario
Gohan has more potential due to being half saiyan so If Zamasu were to push the body to its limits like he was. Gohan black would be much stronger than Goku Black
a What if Sonic black that would be cool in my opinion
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I was gonna drop my Gohan black vid yesterday then my mic got cooked 😔 I’ll have to watch this to satisfy myself
u still gonna release it?
@@AventSir ofc😼 just can’t this week sadly
Great video!
Before i discovered gohan black, my what if story was gohan vs goku black. If they made fused zamasu after, then this is the perfect opportunity for gohan to fused with trunks
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Js Goku didnt need kaioken to beat Gohan, gohan felt disrespected that Goku wasnt going to go all out so he asked for it and got one shot after.
Cope Lil bro zeno killed goku black deal with it at least Gohan Black went out with some dignity imagine your goat dying to a god baby could not be my goat
Have both goku black and Gohan black fight against Black Freeza with the omni king ruling thatfreeza can't kill right away and let's see who catches up to black frieza's power level first..
I still believe Berserk Broly can reach Black frieza the fastest with this ruling.
Im sorry but you cant use heroes characters. Heroes yamcha would one tap all of super z and gt at the same time.
7:44 He never negated zamasus immortality, in the manga every piece of zamasu grew into their own body to the point that there were an army of fused zamasu and in the anime his immortality was going to allow him to fuse himself with the universe itself after there was no body to regenerate
you saying that you can negate immortality by being strong enough is just wrong while zamasu by himself wasnt strong enough to give them a fight he still got back up no matter what, the same with garlick jr. He got over powered so he needed to be sealed away to beat him
Immortality has been the only thing that being stronger doesnt just outright beat
That reminds me of Metal Cooler Army
Also Invulnerablity. In Dragonball multiverse Broly was Invulnerable and also had Constant Rising Power and in Universe 20 Destroyed that whole Universe
@@hurricane7727 it was like the metal cooler army but instead of the parts trying to put themselves together they just regenerate into a separate being
Ohhh yeahhhh we abt to get swiftyyyy!!!!
Using hero’s is mental gonna have to block you for that 😢
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Gohan black: Im here to kill you.
If you are going to use heroes then use. Beast Gohan black This video makes no sense
People think gohan regained his strength just after a few days he in fact had been training ever since rof to regain his strenght
true some people really dont watch the show and just said gohan get this strong in just training for a few day but in fact he been training for years since after rof
I don't get how bro's rage boost just decided to become permanent. It's a rage boost, it shouldn't stay forever but bro's not only boosted his base to god levels and gave him back ultimate. This implies that bro would've been the strongest had it not been for Beerus' dream.
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Actually no
For One:in Heroes, black Goku had Fu's Mask which enhanced his Gains
2nd:Gohan went from Buu saga to top saga levels by training in Ultimate for 5 hours, in sparking zero, not only he Trains for months while Always being motivated, he even breaches trough his Potential unleashed different times
Add that with Gohan's Prodigy Potential, Gohan's anger which as we see in the anime with Goku Black, It Is a Good boost for the gods, Imagine that with Gohan's genes and all
Gohan Is the Better body
They gotta make him playable
i hope when dlc comes out we get another sparking ep where gohan unlocks beast in TOP !!!!!!!!!
I'd wager, short term Goku Black and long term Gohan Black. Saiyan blood seems to make Zamasu reckless maybe weaker blood would help him stay in control? Although Gohan Black would prolly need a stronger catalyst to push him to greater heights.
Just like with every what if the initial is usually the most absurd part and everything else is easier to write
@@purpledragon5398 I mean ultimate Gohan beating golden freiza while maybe a little out their it isn't out of the question if you assumed he did some training and then got a rage boost with the ultimate form
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Zamas is a fool for real, gohan has more potential and latent energy to tap into. but he probably just wanted a shortcut, Probably a body that can withstand god ki
or probably gohan didn't do anything in super. so why would he choose gohan body?
Goku Black wins. His Goku ( Before he got his body Stolen and was alive) body was used to God Ki where as Gohan Never used God Ki so His Body wouldnt be able to adapt to that power as easily.
@@hurricane7727 exactly my guy
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I understand that gohan black isn’t “cannon” (honestly I don’t know how much involvement toyotarou had in the game so it might be) but using dragon ball hero’s is so far left field because to me I think they have different power scaling.
U can’t go from comparing gohan from the anime/manga to the game. And then for goku use anime/manga and Dragon ball heroes 😭.
I understand it’s a what if but at least make it make sense. No one uses dragon ball hero’s in any debate or comparison
One thing i think you forgot to mention that the Gohan from the What if during his Mystic Transformation had a rage boost. A boost the cannon gohan didn't get.
Also they missed a huge chance to have it be future gohan black. Which is way cooler.
Yeah. It surpassed Golden Frieza and SSB Goku, and that was before all the training he did during the U6 Arc and the Future Trunks Arc.
@righteousone5119 well my main point I guess is that cuz it's a rage boost that brought him to that level. It was temporary. So he'd return to normal then need to train. Insinuating he's prob more or less equal to our cannon gohan but a BIT stronger because he'd probably get a pseudo zenkai + the fight itself was training vs frieza
Dude in the second half of the video is trying so hard to make his voice deeper lmao
using heroes scaling is nasty work not gon cap lol
Goku black claps, gohan black can't do anything against rose scythe, also W for using heroes as it's cannon to the main timeline
“heroes” and “canon” being used in the same sentence 😭
But Ultimate Gohan Black has a pink scythe. It's the ult in his moveset, confirmed since PC players got to play as him in a Custom Battle. Not only that, but most of Time Breaker Goku Black's power came from a fake universe, so you'd have to give that to a hypothetical Heroes Gohan Black as well, AND also the fact that this would allow Gohan Black to use Beast or some super evolved form of Ultimate, which would guarantee Gohan Black's superiority over Goku Black. Dunno what you thought you were cooking with this.
No the hell it's not nobody said this drop a source
Also a scythe gohan black has this bruh
@@firefistace5230 does he?
Using Heroes was unnecessary, Goku Black is more powerful than Gohan Black from Sparking Zero anyway, Heroes was complete Overkill
Let's not lie
@@firefistace5230 there’s no lie
@@nk_worldz6667but you just lied..... Gohan black is more powerful than Goku black, he already can do the same stuff Goku black can do...
Dude you are the only other person who agrees the beast form is an extension of mystic gohan
Gohan has more potential than Goku because Gohan has human heart i mean his emotions make him stronger but
In zamasu's case 😅
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Actually now that I think about it a big money idea for dragon ball is what if they did a what if series it would be so comp man 😫🙏🏽
We need Hercule Black and Yamcha Black.
goku black needed to see Goku transform into ssb so unless gohan black sees himself transform into mystic or beast he loses
No way this ain’t a playable character 😢
Using DB heroes just proves that Gohan black is stronger
I love the idea of black gohan but i think what would make him bad ass if it was future gohan body i mean it would hit harder 4 trunks to have to defeat the guy in side his master body
Yeah not gonna lie y’all power scaling was trash
Their potential is the same for both Goku and Gohan. Mystic and Ssj3 are both equivalents and Beast and MUI are equivalents. Goku is to Beerus what Gohan is to Goku in regards to plot armored power ups that go against logic and the stories logic.
Stop lying pls gohan was confirm stronger then ssj3 hell even gontenks was
As Stan Lee once said : "The person who'd win in a fight is a person the scriptwriter wants to win"
For real tho, regardless which is stronger, i still wouldn't wanna fight someone who uses self harm to gain strength, on some crazy shit😧
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Yes sir.
Gohan Black from Sparking Zero is stronger, plain and simple. The Gohan from the What-If fights Hit in the U6 vs U7 tournament and actually DEFEATED him which Goku could not even with Ssbkk, that means Gohan Black HAS to be stronger than Goku Black becuz the What-if outright confirms Gohan has become stronger than Goku.
The heroes manga is more coherent
If there's ever gonna be a dragon ball budokai tenkaichi 5 they should do goten black what if
Yeah I'd love to see the like ratio on this.
ultimate Gohan challenging golden Frieza by just training in Earth not even hyperbolic time chamber. his power level atleast rival to ultimate buuhan at this rate.
NO WAY U ARE USING HEROES SCALING 😭😭😭
Look i think goku black wins this fight ngl i feel like this debate would be close due to both most likely having crazy adaptability i also feel like gohan black would have more potential but id take goku black even without the heroes feats theres small differences here that matter that id say SLIGHTLY puts goku black above gohan black
And if we use what ifs as well than goku black definitely wins as he was able to beat ssbkk goku and vegito blue
In heroes easily defeats Ultra Instinct Goku
give goku ultimate or potential unlocked, how strong would he be??
@@qtindavis433 not as strong as he is currently to be honest and probably below gohan
@@Nathan24634 you don't know what ultimate is.
it would be a fully focused goku (which we didnt see) while in his base form. which is above what we did see a distracted goku who fought gohan. then he gets ui on top of that hed be beyond anything all the z fighter can muster
@@qtindavis433 the ultimate form is based on potential at the very most he would be equal to his power as ssjb
@@Nathan24634 no. he would be equal to what his max power is and any other potential inside. thats why gohan doesn't need ssj 2. he gets that form plus his potential. goku gets mui + another mui and his potential to grow. above everything
@@qtindavis433 yeah not quite buddy sure it might reach his max potential but most arcs he is at the limit of his potential like in the top mui is his max potential and he needs mui to reach it he wouldn't reach it with potential unleashed because it wouldn't break through his limits the way mui did