As soon as I heard magnesium. I knew a firefighter clip was going to get played. Thanks for choosing an extremely mild clip. The people don't need to see just how bad it can really be
Can't tell if serious than realized you were. You're actually the type that coddles. "They don't need to see that.." *..NO, NO.* That's exactly what most westerners need to see. The harsh truth cause most of ya'll are asleep at the wheel while on Xanax going down hell hwy. The last thing we need is watered down anything.
@@mro4ts457 at the fire academy. My instructor showed us a video of a guy getting his legs basically chopped off, because he hit a car fire with water and the front bumper blew off, hitting him in the legs 😳. I never got called to a car fire, where that image wasn't at the front of my mind. I never told anyone this but I would let the rookies handle the nozzle at car fires, while I stood behind them just humping the hose. I told them it would be good practice but really I just didn't want to get my legs blown off 😜
@@CryptoRich1 Almost as terrifying as Methonal fires in racing. Ricky Bobby made it look funny, but it’s hard to imagine a more terrifying thing than being engulfed in invisible fire.
Could you do that trick with the flaming steel wool on a string and spin it around but with magnesium? And if so what would happen if it started raining while doing it
Remember French GP 1968 where Jo Schlesser drove a Honda that was made of magnesium and crashed in 2nd lap and burned to his end. After that crash magnesium was banned.
The solution to the flammability and water reactivity of magnesium is to make it an alloy. We have been alloying aluminum to make it stronger since the J1 mono plane. We also alloyed titanium to make it easier to machine and more ductile.
FUN FACT: Early versions of the UH-1 Huey helicopter were made with Magnesium. Obviously this was not ideal because it made the helicopter vulnerable in combat and if it crashed, it would burn.
They did make cars out magnesium. Race cars. It was very prominent in the 1960’s and 70’s. That’s why fire suits started to become standard, due to magnesium being implemented so heavily.
Work in a plant that has powder magnesium. It has caught on fire at one time. It takes a special kind of extinguisher to put the flames out. Because the fire we had was small, we were able to use sand
Many years ago a recycler was picking up steel from a local manufacturer. They had just picked up scrap from another local manufacturer that made airplane parts on contract. The crane dropped still glowing freshly cut steel into the recycling hopper. The steel caught magnesium and titanium shavings on fire, which caught chunks of magnesium and titanium on fire. The resulting massive fire was dropped on the asphalt pavement by the panicked recycler. The asphalt caught fire. The resulting inferno was more or less controlled until the fire dept was sure the remaining magnesium and titanium was gone, and then they struggled with the asphalt and molten steel for a while.
Honda built an F1 car out of magnesium in 1968 and sadly, the inevitable did indeed happen, the car got into an accident and caught fire killing driver Jo Schlesser in the inferno. The blaze was so massive, marshals and firefighters couldn’t even come near the car until the flame died out hours later
Reminds me of the high altitude interceptor us Americans tried to make in WW2, the planes whole structure was built with Magnesium and I think one of the the three prototypes actually caught fire
That doesn't really apply to any substantial quantity of it. Try lighting a whole brick, nothing happens. The flaw is it's brittleness, aluminum is soft, soft is good for crashes. That's why we moved away from steel, magnesium is going the entire opposite direction in terms of structural materials.
The aluminum would also explode except for the protective oxide layer it forms very quickly. Which is why you shouldn’t pour molten aluminum into water, the oxide layer may not have time to form and the aluminum reacts with the water and big boom.
It was pretty common to make rims out of magnesium back in the day. Thus the name mags. But those times are past with new advancements. Magnesium in a solid state is not generally reactive but shavings are, similar to aluminum dust which is extremely flammable as well. It makes for great sparklers and fire starters though!
They did. Le Mans race in 1955. Its gruesome but there was a car crash that killed 80 people. The car was made with magnesium so whem it caught on fire it couldn't be stopped. They used water and made it worse as they didn't know.
You didn’t even mention Mercedes’ making a racing car out of magnesium. 1955 24 Hours of Le Mans, worst motor racing accident in history. A Jaguar overtakes an Austin Healey and then slows down to pull into the Pits. Austin Healey swerved into the path of an oncoming Mercedes, Mercedes ramps off the back of it directly into the audience. ~80 casualties, some of which were decapitations. Veterans said it was more horrific than anything they’d seen during WWII. Body was made of Magnesium, they tried putting out the fire, only made things worse. Switzerland doesn’t allow any wheel to wheel motor racing to this day. Only hill climbs or rallies where there isn’t more than one car on the track at the same time.
What's worse is you can't put it out with CO2 either magnesium burns hot enough to where it will just rip the oxygen off the Carbon dioxide and use it as fuel
Also missed the part where NOTHING puts it out. It's why we in the Navy push flaming aircraft into the ocean. Magnesium in the rims and you lose 30 million dollars. Nice.
Hate to break it to you, kid, but iron and aluminum are also flammable, and that's like 90% of the mass of a car... The reason more of it isn't used is because it's expensive in large quantities, about 4x the price of aluminum and 30 times the price of steel.
Electric cars from china will now be completely molded from magnesium alloy. A car battery burns at easily 2000 Celsius. Alloy is easily done at 900 c. All connected to a cloud server.
When you add water in small amounts to any burning metal it does not explode, but it does make thing very interesting for a second. But copious amounts of water will absolutely extinguish a burning metal fire. And all the “-ium” metals are combustible, just some more than others.
When it comes to cars, panels made from steel are stronger than panels made from aluminum as they are today. Aluminum has a better strength to weight ratio but you'd need to double the thickness of every panel to get it to the same strength as a standard thickness steel panel. Yet we still abandoned steel for weight reduction. And now car companies have even started abandoning unnecessary aluminum parts with carbon fiber parts just for the sake of weight reduction.. with the amount of crumple zones incorporated into the frame itself the body can be made from paper mache at this point and you'd probably be fine as long as it's not a semi that creams into you
My buddy had a VW Bug. Old school type. It had a magnesium block. The fuel hose popped a leak near the engine. The fire was very bright and the car was reduced to almost nothing
They built car parts like high end rims with magnesium alloys not pure magnesium. Not reactive once solidified into the part. Also you could build a car mostly out of magnesium alloy but they don’t because of cost.
Why don't we just coat magnesium with something? Idk what that something would be but wouldn't it make sense to just protect the magnesium from exposure to anything that would make it catch on fire?
Scraping motors of all sorts I made a mistake... Melting aluminum from iron I didn't test for grind spark. Things got derailed in a most destructive manor...
Interesting fact it wasn't a car complete Maybe magnesium but there was a bugatti that the body was made up of magnesium it's too bad it's long lost to history
Another thing is that if u were to try to suffocate the flame with caebon dioxide it would grow as its strong enough to rip the oxygen from the carbon fueling it further
‘a danger to everybody else on the road’
*the driver* : 😃👌
i went to the comments to see if anyone did something like this lmao
Imagine if you're a magnesium car caught on fire while in a rain storm💥
It’s raining
Well, He's not in danger if he's dead..
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“Why they don’t place thermonuclear warheads on your rear bumper”
To expensive in the middel east he try a cheeper way
It wouldn’t go off, but it would leak when rear ended.
@@hanzmartin4284use a Tacoma Instead😂
Yeah, when you said Magnesium, I immediately thought of my magnesium shavings, they’re lit ablaze with my ferro rod.
Remember the Mercedes race car accident 70 years ago...
There was a Mercedes fully magnesium race car that caught fire and flew into a crowd of people. You could only image how that would go.
Prime entertainment
1955 LeMans
The videos are insane.
Yeah... Really reminds me about that Le Mans crash... Truly tragic...
Hi Elemental
At first, I thought he was holding a thin icecream sandwich 😭
How lmao
Same lmao
The laugh at the "it explodes" part gave some "why am I still holding this" feeling
As soon as I heard magnesium. I knew a firefighter clip was going to get played. Thanks for choosing an extremely mild clip. The people don't need to see just how bad it can really be
Can't tell if serious than realized you were. You're actually the type that coddles. "They don't need to see that.." *..NO, NO.* That's exactly what most westerners need to see. The harsh truth cause most of ya'll are asleep at the wheel while on Xanax going down hell hwy. The last thing we need is watered down anything.
Shit can give you nightmares
@@mro4ts457 at the fire academy. My instructor showed us a video of a guy getting his legs basically chopped off, because he hit a car fire with water and the front bumper blew off, hitting him in the legs 😳. I never got called to a car fire, where that image wasn't at the front of my mind. I never told anyone this but I would let the rookies handle the nozzle at car fires, while I stood behind them just humping the hose. I told them it would be good practice but really I just didn't want to get my legs blown off 😜
@@CryptoRich1
Almost as terrifying as Methonal fires in racing.
Ricky Bobby made it look funny, but it’s hard to imagine a more terrifying thing than being engulfed in invisible fire.
Steel is flammable too though?
Helicopters in early Korean War were Sikorsky S-55. They had magnesium in the frames. Yes. They were known to burn after/during crashing.
Could you do that trick with the flaming steel wool on a string and spin it around but with magnesium? And if so what would happen if it started raining while doing it
The plastic cup for the fire, genius 🤣🤣🤣
Remember French GP 1968 where Jo Schlesser drove a Honda that was made of magnesium and crashed in 2nd lap and burned to his end. After that crash magnesium was banned.
The solution to the flammability and water reactivity of magnesium is to make it an alloy. We have been alloying aluminum to make it stronger since the J1 mono plane. We also alloyed titanium to make it easier to machine and more ductile.
I actually put a whole magnesium rod in a campfire once and it just looked way to cool😂
Fun fact: all cars use combustion as in mini explosions.
Lithium : don't mind me
You can put lithium out with CO2 magnesium can steal the oxygen in CO2 and use it as fuel
FUN FACT: Early versions of the UH-1 Huey helicopter were made with Magnesium. Obviously this was not ideal because it made the helicopter vulnerable in combat and if it crashed, it would burn.
Shit, it's about to rain...
They did make cars out magnesium. Race cars.
It was very prominent in the 1960’s and 70’s. That’s why fire suits started to become standard, due to magnesium being implemented so heavily.
They made a F1 car almost completely out of magnesium. The Honda RA302. In 1968 the driver Jo Schlesser crashed the car and it started burning.
They still use it more than you think in cars. Engine blocks, motorcycle frames, random parts.
Imagine when it rains and Your car is made of that outside yeaahhh
Doesn't work like that, it also has to be on fire to do that
Lots of things are made of magnesium like the rims on cars "mag wheels" it has to be on fire for water to react.
Fun fact! Magnesium is also used to make flash bangs.
Also, magnesium is metal high in reactivity meaning it corrodes quickly
Work in a plant that has powder magnesium. It has caught on fire at one time. It takes a special kind of extinguisher to put the flames out. Because the fire we had was small, we were able to use sand
Many years ago a recycler was picking up steel from a local manufacturer. They had just picked up scrap from another local manufacturer that made airplane parts on contract. The crane dropped still glowing freshly cut steel into the recycling hopper.
The steel caught magnesium and titanium shavings on fire, which caught chunks of magnesium and titanium on fire. The resulting massive fire was dropped on the asphalt pavement by the panicked recycler.
The asphalt caught fire.
The resulting inferno was more or less controlled until the fire dept was sure the remaining magnesium and titanium was gone, and then they struggled with the asphalt and molten steel for a while.
Honda built an F1 car out of magnesium in 1968 and sadly, the inevitable did indeed happen, the car got into an accident and caught fire killing driver Jo Schlesser in the inferno. The blaze was so massive, marshals and firefighters couldn’t even come near the car until the flame died out hours later
Him: just holding a rod of pure fucking magnesium in his hand
Me: *Sweating*
That's what I was thinking the whole time.
It can also be extremely bright if it burns
Titanium and aluminum actually both do this under the right circumstances, It's just way way more prevalent with magnesium
The thing is TVR (a British sports car company) DID in fact make cars with full magnesium frames
So basically cars in action movies
It's also so reactive to water, rain would literally eat it away.
I just imagine it raining and then somebody's car just combusting
It's already been done. Check out the 1935 Bugatti Aerolithe
Reminds me of the high altitude interceptor us Americans tried to make in WW2, the planes whole structure was built with Magnesium and I think one of the the three prototypes actually caught fire
That doesn't really apply to any substantial quantity of it. Try lighting a whole brick, nothing happens. The flaw is it's brittleness, aluminum is soft, soft is good for crashes. That's why we moved away from steel, magnesium is going the entire opposite direction in terms of structural materials.
The entire vehicle body would also sacrifice itself through a really neat oxidation trick protecting steel parts from rust.
🤦♂️ That's why you use an alloy. Derp
My magnesium based car when it rains:
And also if magnesium contacts with water it will dissolve in it and it's dangerous too
From car crash to crematorium in seconds!
The aluminum would also explode except for the protective oxide layer it forms very quickly.
Which is why you shouldn’t pour molten aluminum into water, the oxide layer may not have time to form and the aluminum reacts with the water and big boom.
The magnesium used in cars or electronic devices is not flammable as normal magnesium. It is a special alloy.
All the backpackers and campers knew exactly what the problem is. I’m looking at it going “that sucker not gonna last long near a combustion engine” 😂
Imagine rain storms:
*INTRODUCING: THE FLASHBANG CAR, BLING ALL OF YOUR OPPONENT- I MEAN FELLOW DRIVERS TODAY!*
Got it, will be making the other 50% of my magnesium car not from magnesium, but from Sodium. 👍
Also, metals that explode in water/burn easily also corrode fast AF. Imagine your car turning into a rust bucket in a mere 5 years.
Lights plastic cup on fire
"Its flammable "
It’s nearly impossible to ignite that bar of magnesium.
You could put a propane torch directly on it for 5 minutes and it’s not going to do shit
This is why they don't make rims out of magnesium anymore , when you hear the term Mag wheels , Mag is short for magnesium.
Fun fact, people were crazy enough to make car parts out of this and use em in motorsports because they were light. Thank God for carbon
US military during the 50s and 60s: "This is the perfect metal to make the skin of our helicopters out of!"
It was pretty common to make rims out of magnesium back in the day. Thus the name mags. But those times are past with new advancements. Magnesium in a solid state is not generally reactive but shavings are, similar to aluminum dust which is extremely flammable as well. It makes for great sparklers and fire starters though!
They did. Le Mans race in 1955.
Its gruesome but there was a car crash that killed 80 people. The car was made with magnesium so whem it caught on fire it couldn't be stopped. They used water and made it worse as they didn't know.
You didn’t even mention Mercedes’ making a racing car out of magnesium. 1955 24 Hours of Le Mans, worst motor racing accident in history. A Jaguar overtakes an Austin Healey and then slows down to pull into the Pits. Austin Healey swerved into the path of an oncoming Mercedes, Mercedes ramps off the back of it directly into the audience. ~80 casualties, some of which were decapitations. Veterans said it was more horrific than anything they’d seen during WWII. Body was made of Magnesium, they tried putting out the fire, only made things worse. Switzerland doesn’t allow any wheel to wheel motor racing to this day. Only hill climbs or rallies where there isn’t more than one car on the track at the same time.
They have made race cars out of magnesium. It was popular in the 60s. It killed quite of few people.
Learn from history. "1955 Le Mans disaster"
Mercedes car crashed into a car and immediately blew up in flames.
However, they DID make it into lawnmower decks in the 70s
Probably think about mentioning times where magnesium frames have been used in racing, then caused fatalities
I believe a version of the Porsche 911 had a magnesium roof so if it was raining and you rolled over you'd blow up
Lancia: Magnesium? There's no magnesium in our cars, the rally drivers just self-ignited.
Magnesium is actually really hard to light in block form. The shavings are easier to light
So essentially a full-magnesium car is a fiery explosion waiting to happen…noted
What's worse is you can't put it out with CO2 either magnesium burns hot enough to where it will just rip the oxygen off the Carbon dioxide and use it as fuel
Also missed the part where NOTHING puts it out. It's why we in the Navy push flaming aircraft into the ocean. Magnesium in the rims and you lose 30 million dollars. Nice.
My friend bought a magnesium alloy AR-15. It's only 4lbs vs 7. Mixing it with aluminum keeps it from...spontaneously combusting.
Literally every car in the Just Cause series
Rain? Death. Car crash, death. Car crash and firemen? Refer to previous questions
Hate to break it to you, kid, but iron and aluminum are also flammable, and that's like 90% of the mass of a car... The reason more of it isn't used is because it's expensive in large quantities, about 4x the price of aluminum and 30 times the price of steel.
Electric cars from china will now be completely molded from magnesium alloy. A car battery burns at easily 2000 Celsius. Alloy is easily done at 900 c. All connected to a cloud server.
The building I work in is clad in a magnesium alloy. Hopefully the alloy isnt flammable but Im not going to test it.
When you add water in small amounts to any burning metal it does not explode, but it does make thing very interesting for a second. But copious amounts of water will absolutely extinguish a burning metal fire. And all the “-ium” metals are combustible, just some more than others.
Ultralite helicopter frame? I feel like that would be a good application for magnesium
The Bugatti aerolith is the only car to ever exist that was made solely from magnesium where metal was needed
It rains on a highway and that's a fucking massacre
When it comes to cars, panels made from steel are stronger than panels made from aluminum as they are today. Aluminum has a better strength to weight ratio but you'd need to double the thickness of every panel to get it to the same strength as a standard thickness steel panel. Yet we still abandoned steel for weight reduction. And now car companies have even started abandoning unnecessary aluminum parts with carbon fiber parts just for the sake of weight reduction.. with the amount of crumple zones incorporated into the frame itself the body can be made from paper mache at this point and you'd probably be fine as long as it's not a semi that creams into you
It also will galvanically couple to ANY metals and corrode
Bugatti made a fully magnesium bodied car. I think it’s called the Type 26 or something like that
My buddy had a VW Bug. Old school type. It had a magnesium block. The fuel hose popped a leak near the engine. The fire was very bright and the car was reduced to almost nothing
They built car parts like high end rims with magnesium alloys not pure magnesium. Not reactive once solidified into the part. Also you could build a car mostly out of magnesium alloy but they don’t because of cost.
I wouldn't want to hold magnesium near my face. Knowing me, I would cough or sneeze on it, making it wet, and hurting myself in the process.
Yeah the best thing is, should the fire extinguisher you grab after noticing it’s on fire happen to be CO2, it’ll just burn even more intensely.
magnesium is so flammable it killed famous driver in a mercadies in a endurance race in 1976 (i think)
So if a car made out of magnesium was driving under a rain, it would constantly exploding like a firecrackers?
The engine blocks of VS bugs were made of magnesium.
and final mouse is selling explosives for $800
“The car is fully never made from this metal”
Bugatti I’m the 1930s bitch hold my electron coupe.
Most things are flammable
Wasn’t Lauda’s Ferrari F1 car made of magnesium? And that’s why it was a miracle he survived his crash at the Nurburgring.
Why don't we just coat magnesium with something? Idk what that something would be but wouldn't it make sense to just protect the magnesium from exposure to anything that would make it catch on fire?
Scraping motors of all sorts I made a mistake... Melting aluminum from iron I didn't test for grind spark. Things got derailed in a most destructive manor...
Interesting fact it wasn't a car complete Maybe magnesium but there was a bugatti that the body was made up of magnesium it's too bad it's long lost to history
Another thing is that if u were to try to suffocate the flame with caebon dioxide it would grow as its strong enough to rip the oxygen from the carbon fueling it further
They should make 100% magnesium bullets
This is genius. Doing the whole science thing while actually being funny unlike the other big science UA-camrs who are stale as shit.
The magnesium has to be in shavings to light. You cannot light a solid piece, I mean maybe with a forge, but not with any practical flame
makes you think that there should be some kind of in-built fire suppressant in every car ever, dont it?
Take car crashes to an explosive level