With subscription numbers stagnating, it feels like Microsoft and Xbox are flailing with Game Pass and all of these recent changes that devalue its original proposition. PATREON: www.patreon.com/yongyea TWITTER: twitter.com/yongyea INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/yong_yea TIKTOK: www.tiktok.com/@yongyea TOP PATRONS [BIG BOSS] - Devon B [BOSS] - Gerardo Andrade - Michael Redmond - Phil
Ikr, instead of capitalising n adding/improving benefits, features and games to really shine n stick it to competitors...no, lets follow suit n fail along with them. Smh
@@Chezzraa Kind of hard to improve the library of your game subscription when you close award winning studios to save money you spent to buy said studios.
Not really loosing to the competition just reached maximum saturation. This was never gonna stay normal priced, when we have companies crying that $60 games are not profitable
Also. Remember when Microsoft explicitly told the ftc and the cma that gamepass wouldn't see an increase in price as a result of the Activision acquisition? How the turn tables😂
They are fooling themselves if they think they will continue being popular after this lol it took a long time for Xbox to come back already look at how many are cancelling ps plus premium because they also went through recent changes.
@@frequencyoftruth2303 yeah but at this point I'd rather have premium than ultimate. Cheaper and won't result in developers losing their jobs because AAA games are being given away for free.
Agreed, and leave Xbox Live Gold for people only want online play. The Core name change last year was also stupid as it barely has anything to do with Game Pass. Guess they wanted to inflate the Game Pass sub numbers to investors.
“The only thing wrong with XBox Game Pass is that the second I recommend this to people, you already know snake-ass Microsoft is gonna triple the price on this thing” - videogamedunkey, 2021
@@MasterJazz09Day 1 games went up from $10 to $20 in the last year on Xbox, how’s that $3? Might want to check your facts, and math, before saying other people don’t know what they are talking about.
You only own games if you get cartridges for switch. Physical games also need day 1 patches. Digital you can get in PS as well as Xbox. You think they will stop selling digital? Honest question.
@thatonedude6247 but who on Earth would do that when they can get away with NOT doing that...very shortsighted view and not understanding just how people do things.
@MrSpiritstealer let's face it. Xbox only make like 1 game a year. Rarely good. So why care about the that tier at all. And if your all doing 3rd party... Just drop xbox all together. Go pc and over buy the PC pass 1 time. And but cheap games on steam. By the end of the year. Never need to come back. Or go Sony with PSN + or ++. Bunch of 3rd party with old 1st in there
@MrSpiritstealer Tell that to all the people who spend 20 extra dollars just to play Diablo 4 3 days early when the season wasn't even started yet. People in 2024 will pay for literally fuckin anything at this point. People have so much money they apparently don't even know what to do with it.
This was always the plan once they get you off physical discs and on to streaming only then they can jack up the prices as much as they want and they will do it slowly, like a frog in a pot of water on a stove, just slowly heat it up
@@TheRealEclipse1you not gonna be able to pirate any new game if they only let you stream from their servers in real time - which is the exact Google Xbox game pass has in mind - just remember the old Microsoft DRM system, can't remember the name for it currently but that shit made me learn pirating just so I could play the games I bought.
@@ArkonBlade EXACTLY 💯 Most people are too dumb to realize this. It's like when they first opened self checkout lines. Everybody was like "it's way faster". Those pricks got you used to it, and now you're waiting in the self checkout line with ten people that have a cart full of groceries in front of you. People are too stupid to realize what's taking place before it takes place
I mainly play on pc but if a game is good I’ll buy a physical copy for the ps5, even if I don’t plan to play it any time soon. Nothing beats having a physical copy, I recently booted up the ps3 a played through Splatterhouse, without the physical copy I wouldn’t have been able to play it.
Fr tho. Like the new call of duty coming out on day one. You would have to play fully and enjoy the game for only 3 months before you are paying more to play it rather than paying once to own it.
Inflation by itself doesnt cause this result, corporate gouging and greed are the reasons, unsustainable business practices, companies are obsessed with “higher number year over year” it’s ridiculous, and its going to bite them soon
They are the market. No one is producing anything. This isn't the PS2 era. The only thing keeping gaming from dying is the 30+ year back catalog. Every other company in the world is in hibernation mode due to the financial unrest.
@@MrJflomario Sony posts record annual profit boosted by chips and all-time high PlayStation 5 sales, yet some how they are in hibernation mode? they literally just hiked playstation prices and its $18 for their highest tier. yet no outrage lol. This is just the popular trend on youtube to shit on Xbox until one day they leave consoles for good
@@jimmymac2292as people should shit on them, same for PS. What most people are not talking about is that PS probably lost a lot of subrscriptions also, especially for the highest tier. Having the best deal in gaming and the most powerfull console that doesn't live up to the said agenda Xbox was putting out. Their PR was not good and they reap what they sow. Sony smartly shuts up and just does it's stuff. Is Sony good, no, is the sub better, no, but they also never sais it was. It's just PR play in which Xbox is not that well versed. Also, if a gamer needs a video of 1 random dude on the net to build an opinion, then that's just sad. People are not informed enough today and not from enough different sources. This is truly sad in this age with the easiest access to information
That's the point : make it so unreadable that people just say "F it" and get either the most expensive for everything or just stay on the tier they already have (that Microshaft secretly jacked the price of)
I think the point of those graphs is generally to upsell you on things you don't need For example, the "digital deluxe edition" of games can have practically nothing of value added (let's say 2 skins + 1 small quest + some in-game currency). None of this is particularly valuable, but the graph shows the digital deluxe edition having at least twice as many "items" as the base game (+ season pass if relevant). Realistically, it's maybe + 0.2% extra content, but it's presented as +100% or more, to distract you from how worthless it actually is
@Sazabi4prez well, that's the shitty thing. They kept the name for the now more expensive tier. If I wasn't so fucking anal about all this nonsense. I wouldn't have even known, and just went "fuck! They upped it again?". Where as, for someone like me (don't cloud game, and don't really care about day one access). The "standard" is the play, unless I'm missing something lol. But, I guarantee alot of people that suits. Just glances and decides right there. And, I don't blame them. I almost did this time. I had shit goin' on while I was tryin' to renew. So, I didn't get yanked out of a comp match. Then I see 1999 and went "damn, that's the year after I was born". Sorry, Pun-bad.
That's when value inversion comes in. MS doesn't put out enough triple A titles into gamepass to justify 240$ when i could buy every game i'll be interested in that year with the same money. You won't get value out of gamepass now unless you go out of your way to play games you don't care about just because they're on gamepass
@channelofstuff6662 Do people just have mass brain rot? The entire point is that you don't own the game, you're paying for access to the game and for some people that can come out cheaper. If you want the game you can, you know, *_buy the game, that's still an option!_*
I remeber Xbox direct or whatever its called. Everyone praised the hell out of them after they bodied sony or whatever, completely forgetting that entire firing ordeal. 🤣. Gamers have gold fish memory i swear
I have ZERO interest in cloud gaming and owning nothing for the pleasure. No console required? There goes any last hope of investing in anything XBOX going forward.
Part of the appeal of Game Pass is for gamers who can't afford anything more than a college laptop. ...or for getting past Sony's absurd PSN geolocking for games they publish. 😂 I welcome the ability to subscribe to a service like Game Pass, but there needs to be the option to purchase physical copies of games as well. That being said, I want physical games to transition from fragile discs to alternative media like thumb drives. Especially with exceptionally large games like Starfield, or very large game packs like the Command and Conquer complete series pack.
The entire point of gamepass since its inception was day 1 games. Locking that to a specific tier of the Same service is messed up and and kinda goes back on everything they've said. I wonder how their marketing will look in the future because they simply can't say "day 1 on gamepass" due to the fact only one tier has that perk, it would cause mass confusion.
Oh they'll still be boldly saying day 1 games, just with a little asterisk and small fine print in the bottom corner. Because they technically are still offering day 1 games and are technically being transparent about it. Isn't marketing fun?
No it wasn’t. The point was paying a relatively low monthly price to get access to a huge library of games, both well known hits as well as some of the lesser known indie games that actually count amongst the best games of all time.
It was definitely more "Netflix of games" than the Day 1 thing. Since the Standard plan now includes online multiplayer, it's actually not as bad as it's made out to be. I'm sure those changes were made with data in hand, so it will be pretty easy to market/advertise. The bad part is them doing a switcheroo on the Standard plan, but the price increase aspect was predictable.
I see an eye lawsuit for not delivering on the day one games thing if someone paid for the annual subscription and now they can't get them I am not from there but I wouldn't be surprised if something comes up about that
These prices are extreme, you could just be buying games from a Steam sale and you get to own them. Witcher 3 was on sale for $5 just last month, why would you pay more to rent it? The value isn't there anymore, the "hundreds of free games" is not justified when you can only play a few of them at a time. You mind as well be spending that money on Steam or GOG.
The point of these subscriptions is testing games out before you buy. I’m not gonna jump in and say but Witcher 3 digitally (pc) for 5$ if I don’t know anything about it. I’d test it on the gamepass I like it I’ll buy it either physical (console) or on PC(digital) next sale
Yeah I thought about getting a fire stick because I don't have an Xbox console, but then I realized I would be spending $240 a year on GamePass... I'm not even spending anything close to that on PS5 games
Yeah I don’t think Xbox has control anymore of itself it’s most likely Microsoft pulling the strings now. And if I was in the Xbox office when being presented that activision/ blizzard should be bought I would of said no because I already know we’re not gonna profit fast enough for Microsoft to like it and then it’s Microsoft who will take charge.
Microsoft buying Activision Blizzard is one of the biggest backfires of the history of videogames. Edit. I mean players, especially Xbox fanboys, who celebrated the acquisition, thinking it was going to be good for customers, and happy that the Activision Blizzard games were never coming to PlayStation again.
@@silverdamascus2023 The stupidity of the decision makers ar Act/Blizz seems to be contagious and is infecting Microsoft as well. (Is that better free speech haters?)
When there's a tier with Day 1 games and another tier without Day 1 games, having Day 1 games is no longer a standard, it's a luxury. It's just like when Netflix and other services added a tier with ads, they killed a big reason why people left cable and went to streaming, cable used to have no ads, you were already paying, then they started to have more ads than free TV, streaming thrived when it was ad-free, the option of having a cheaper tier with ads will hurt those who pay for the tier without ads, it's not "just an option".
Streaming is also pretty dead, because shows randomly distribute themselves among them now. The day I gave up on 99% of streaming was when I went to find a movie that ALL OF THEM SAID THEY HAD only for it to be on one of the more obscure ones. So I spent 10 minutes going through 14 different apps on my TV, 6 of which I was paying a monthly subscription for. It should be illegal to advertise having a movie on your site when you don't and it is pathetic that 400 years later the world still just considers that as normal business. Blatant false advertising has killed more people than sharks and bears combined and it's still legal.
@@setcheck67 They do have it... On a different region. Just a few months back i got into Made In Abyss. My region doesn't have it on Crunchyroll but both seasons are on Netflix, except the OVA Dawn of the Deep Soul which i scoured every streaming service which advertised itself as having it, only to find that it's not available in any streaming service in my region... At which point i just turned to piracy and had a much easier time watching it. Streaming services suck now because there's too many of them and they have too many restrictions on who gets what in which region. It's impossible to just get what you want in a straightforward way.
I still think it’s funny how paying for subscriptions on video games is normalized like the idea itself isn’t the most idiotic thing to ever be made of.
It's a great idea and at the original price point it was an amazing value. Here's the fun part, you can still buy games if you want. It's not like the "buy" button is locked out the moment you sign up for Gamepass.
@@antikommunistischaktionyou just spend more for no reason. Sure the original price is good but anyone can see such price is not going to be for long.
I think business wise Microsoft hasn't made a single good decision with XBOX and has been only destroying its reputation from a gaming giant to a place that studios go to die
Singling out Microsoft for slowly getting a reputation that the *entire AAA games industry* has had since the late 2010s. Good joke. While you are correct that Microsoft is digging that accursed trench in the field, it is important to remember the fact that EA is the king of running studios into the ground. Activision Blizzard, Take 2 Interactive, Sony Entertainment, and Ubisoft Studios are all way ahead of Microsoft as well.
Hell, the only success Microsoft had, the 360, happened strictly because Sony charged an arm and a leg for a PS3. If they had both come out at the same price and Microsoft had still had those horrendous red ring issues, there would have been a lot more people ignoring XBOX long before Mattrick decided to shit himself in public.
@@originalscreenname44Nah, even if the PS3 was $100 cheaper and released same day the 360 still would have picked up due to programs like XBLA which gave the platform a lot of fun indie games, and there was also the fact that games just performed better on the 360 even if the PS3 was more powerful on paper. Even the Kinect was so successful that Sony had to copy it.
@@originalscreenname44that’s just it from the start Microsoft kept giving Xbox money to keep going without them Xbox would not be around. Every single time they screwed up they asked Microsoft for money to fix it and they would but still they never got it right. Xbox 360 in the documentary would have been gone if they weren’t given money to fix the red ring of death. Xbox one they really did a number on themselves by becoming as presented at the press conference a tv console not a gaming console. Too much they have messed up and now I’m thinking they will become the next sega just publishing games and not actually a console anymore wich is ironic because when the sega console died sega helped create nothing but games for Xbox
Companies want infinite growth, but don't understand that is literally impossible. Also they have Activision/Blizzard now; a Gamepass subscription should come with a WoW sub or something.
It could have lasted if there was enough scale. Sadly MS never achieved that as their cloud streaming tech still as good as nvidias, and they need single digit costing gamepass packages (in my opinion $3-5) for the hundreds of millions of casual gamers out there. Only core gamers are going to spend 15-20/month on a game service, and core gamers already have a console or want the latency /performance benefit an actual console can provide
I've been a PC gamer since 1989 and I'll always be. There's a higher barrier of entry, of course, but it is ALWAYS worth it after a while. And the fact that PCs don't really have gens is the icing on the cake. I can play 1993's Doom and Doom Eternal on the same machone without having to wait for an updated port. I can play 1992's Alone in the Dark, move on to the Resident Evil series and play RE1 to 8 on the same PC!
@@AthleticHobo-br4qh I'm not upgrading every year. I'm going to build a PC spec better than the next gen consoles then I'll make savings on not having to pay subscription fees like Gamepass and will have lower game costs. So basically I'll claw back the initial costs through time.
Thank you for the heads up, I just canceled my gamepass subscription. There is no way I'm paying 20$ a month for any subscription I mean 17.99 was already a stretch and was already thinking about canceling but 20$ which is like 22$ after tax is a deal breaker. Specially since most of the games for gamepass in last 6 months have been mediocre at best. I can't believe I'm going to say this but I miss the 60$ a year for gold even though that was a rip-off as well.
Just like Kroger buying out competition left and right so that they could increase prices, it's the same thing with MS and other monopolization. People were cheering with MS buying out other developers. Well, here we are
It's not really surprising that PC players get a better deal. Because on PC, they have alternatives, so Xbox has to be more competitive there. And the whole "day-and-date" thing doesn't mean anything if they can't get some truly great 1st party releases out the door.
I said this years ago. It's not a good service. It's 95% filler for a few gems which overall your better off just buying on sale. Now without day 1 releases there is NO reason to get the game pass. Might aswell wait for sales and build your library through game sales.
price hike after firing studios that make better cheaper games while funding expensive studios that make flops is stupid as shit , short term they are going to make a lot of money but long term they are finished
@@thrpotatoasfgfejfidieiidkr7071 good for you if you think so that doesn’t mean everybody has to agree with you some do and some don’t. If you think they have games great but I don’t Xbox has good games I like Xbox but the selection for game pass is crap in my opinion. Games that I do see are not on game pass
There shouldn’t even be a Standard. It’s just complicating things. Charge everyone $16 or $17, rather than one group paying $15 and one group paying $20. It going to make marketing gamepass a joke. All those presentations at the showcase ended with “Day One on GamePass,” not “Day One on GamePass Ultimate.”
You noticed how things have only gotten worse for Microsoft ever since they acquired Activision Blizzard? They’ve laid off like 5,000 people, started porting their 1st party games to PS5, stopped advertising Xbox in Europe, and also increased Game Pass prices AGAIN. They will increase it again next year too. At this point, you guys are much better off canceling your subscriptions and simply buying the games you want on sale for $20-30. The current Game Pass catalog is literal garbage anyway, it’s not like there’s always good games there, they’re always coming and going. I also find it pretty funny that people talk about Game Pass because of the recognizable name, and yet PS Plus Extra actually has way better games right now including Sony’s own 1st party games. Just saying. Xbox is done.
Said this many times, but I'm an old git that's been gaming since the mid 1970s. I used to mess around with electronics and got bit by the first computer kits. I was hooked and so I bought quite a few different computers and consoles and have still kept them, because I play all of them. Since then, there's been some really great times - the early 1980s were a time of great innovation in the arcades and at home both. I went offf a bit during the Sega era as I don't like beat em ups. But got back in heavily during the PS1 era. The PS2 era was another golden age where there were tons of great games as there was a sweet spot between innovation and costs weren't too high yet. But this generation has been the first where I haven't bought anything. I tend to loosely work on buying a platform when there's about 6 or so exclusives I want, and neither the PS5 nor the Xbox offer this still today. I have a Switch and that's great but that's besides the point. This generation is not only bloated, lacking in experimentation and run by complete idiots, but they seem to be making greedy business decisions that only turn me even further away. Some have said there'll be a crash - there won't as it's too big for that. But there may be a sea change where smaller devs crop up and create smaller innovative games, much like the PS2 era and triple A will either crash and burn or come to accept this.
that was their plan, to make it cheap to get as many people as possible, then after having the monopoly they increase their prices. thats why i hate to depend on online gaming and digital games
@@antikommunistischaktion Are you just forgetting that people are still allowed to point out Microsoft's bullshit when they see it, even though they themselves aren't eating it?
@@Joker-dn5xs You can point out bullshit without being intellectually dishonest. So many people are pretending that Gamepass somehow precludes buying games outright.
It's crazy that no day-1 games is now the standard. The entire promise of the service is that you get those big xbox exclusives day 1, alongside the bigger catalogue of 3rd party games. Without those day 1s, it's just a service to let you play older games that would probably already be on-sale at a store by the time they hit game pass. I think i'd rather own my games at a discount, than rent them on a discount.
It's the corporate cycle. Business is successful, so for more success execs take away what makes it successful. What? Sales are down! Fired! You're all fired! Execs are never wrong! Repeat.
They have to do it or there's no reason to ever buy a Xbox console or their games at this point. Microsoft cut off their own foot then got mad when they had to eat it. We all knew it was a bad business decision in the long run, why buy the game when I get it for $10 a month on release? Heck, why would I own a Xbox when I can play that game day 1 on my PC?
Console manufacturers don't actually care about you buying the consoles. They usually sell them at cost or maybe slightly above it, because the goal is software sales. The end-game goal for Microsoft was never about making XBOX great, it's about absorbing the market. They want to pull EVERYONE in using cloud services and streaming, what google Stadia was trying to do. Microsoft might actually be able to pull it off too, because Stadia failed on account of their service being really bizarre from the consumers point in value and Microsoft has the money to actually sustain it.
@@setcheck67 I would counter that I don't believe Microsoft can pull it off at all. They are the masters of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and will find ways to make things worse. You can see that with how they run Windows and their entire software suite. Every release is yet another new thing that pisses people off, whether it's Recall, or adding ads in Explorer, forcing One Drive backups, or begging people to use Edge. Difference there is they have people locked in with Windows, whereas people have plenty of other places to get video games. I have no doubt that whatever Microsoft is planning, they will screw up big time.
At some point, prices are going to eventually make it where nobody will think subscription services are worth it. I'm already there. I play on PC and PS5 mainly and don't use a single sub service.
And I highly doubt that people who only by 1-3 games a year are going to go for it if COD is one of them. It will be cheaper to buy COD even at $70 than to have to buy Game Pass and spend $240 to play it all year.
Uhh... I guess if you completely ignore the fact that can try a game and not waste $70 finding out you don't like it. I can also try out 20 games a month if I want, and not spend more than $20. Not sure how people see this as bad. It's only $4 more than what I pay now.
@@antikommunistischaktion With a limit to how many time you can do it, and you don't always get your money back quickly. Or I could just keep using Gamepass without that hassle.
And deal with extremely expensive hardware, compilation stutter, no physical disk ownership and increasingly monopolistic ecosystems (Nvidia, Valve). I wouldn't say it is all peachy on this side of the fence either.
@@lycanwarrior2137Hey buddy, I don't know how to better tell you this, but physical disc ownership on consoles is quite literally worthless at this point. 9 times out of 10 the disc doesn't actually contain any game data and even that 10% that does its incomplete or buggy as all get out.
You never know of course more and more people are asking for Sega to do a console comeback, and now that their priorites are straight I think they'd at least do better than Microsoft or Sony right now.
Ive been gaming since famicom era and bought consoles every generation. I have two ps5s one premium and the other one modded. I got valve index and a quest 3 tethered to a rog ally gaming laptop but I watch movies, youtube videos, tiktok, and checking facebook. I have less time for gaming. Im 49 by the way.
I migrated to PC a few years ago from Xbox, so got the pc game pass. I could play with friends using the xbox but the lack of day one new titles to allow me to keep playing with friends is sorely lacking.
Step one, provide the best deal that the customers can't resist. Step two, get the market share and lure the customers to invest on the platform. Step three, jacking up the price until the value is slightly better than the second competitor. Then the cycle resets when the next deal breaker appears.
I'm so exhausted with Microsoft. Once my ultimate subscription runs out early next year, I'll be downgrading to core, and saving up for a PC for the rest of the generation. As a staunch Xbox loyalist over the years, I'm tired and just don't care anymore. Will happily support their games on PC going forward.
Evil West, Diablo IV, Hellblade 2, The Quarry, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Octopath Traveler 2, Callisto Protocol, Palworld, Tchia, Lords Of The Fallen, Flintlock
The worst thing about digital games is the prices drop when they want them to, not when the users determine a games value by putting it online. I want to play Jedi Survivor and it’s still full price. I’m a father with 2 kids, a mortgage and bills. I’m not poor, but 60 pounds is a day out with the kids or a game with 8 hours fun. So 8 hours fun with the kids vs 8 hours of fun on my own. Y but eBay has it for consoles at like 15 pounds.
Are you sure that you really looked? I did a quick search and found a PC key for under $25. And it was $31.49 during the Steam summer sale that just ended.
This is so aggrovating. This is clear evidence that the capitalistic "we always need to grow" mindset is SO bad for business. Doing that and you stagnate. There are only so many gamers. and only so many of them would be interested in gamepass. Now, Microsoft invested so much in getting people to buy the membership, now they are unable to afford the content FOR the gamepass. I wish they would just set a goal, and use all the profits to maintain their gaming structure. instead of trying to grow and grow. Just refine. thats all. smh
I knew this would happen eventually. Making games accessible on Game Pass day one would only benefit Xbox in the short-term. It was going to eat into development costs eventually and we finally reached this point.
all subscription services have hyped up in en*****ification like mad this past year. They are making RECORD profits, and they are cutting costs to make the product you are buying worse.
Great coverage as always 👊🏿. And I'm sure no one is surprised. It's why so many people pushed back on the subscription models that ksep getting pushed in gaming. And the more and more people go digital the more reliant people will become on these subscriptions once physical media stops being made. Which is a sad inevitability even tho as someone who buys physical i hope we continue to fight the fight to keep physical media alive and have that separation before we all get subscriptioned to death where you end up paying for things you barely use but they hook you in just for the odd good thing here or there like with the Netflix model.
Well the good news is that these companies just keep making it so easy for people like us to be proven right. As early as Disney plus got announced I said all digital would cause way too many problems, and in the years after companies kept behaving exactly how i thought they would in a scenario where it's all digital and they are still doing it. But thanks to that more people are understanding what their really trying to do by forcing an all digital future. Whether it's movie companies or video game ones no one has the right to take what you payed your hard earned money on.
@@Cloud-dt6xb Yep 🎯. Very sad outcome. Coz yeah the companies could actually be doing something good with the digital media position for them strengthening but they just did the predictable thing of tryna gauge more and more whilst giving consumers less and less. All in the name of the bottom line.
@@TheOnlyTaps So long as more people realize what their really giving up by letting this crap slide then it's fine. Push back and hurt their wallets that's how we ensure we get to keep owning what we buy.
I buy 12 months of Core for $60 on Amazon and pay full price for my games call it a day. A good game comes out once or twice a year. I don't have time to play 25 different games a month.
People constantly give Sony shit but I swear there's no bigger fuck up in gaming then Microsoft. They literally hit gold with Gamepass, so much so that they made Sony try to copy it, and everybody hated the tier system that PS+ turned into. So what does Microsoft do? Copy Sony's crap tier system to a T AND CHARGE DOUBLE.... I can't even try to fathom any of it...
people shits on sony because people care about playstation brand and they expect from ps to do better and xbox dont get hate bc no one really gives af about then only braindead fanboys
Extremely expected, you could see this price increase coming from a mile away, but still Microsoft is going down the wrong path. Exclusives are less bad then renting/subscriptions
Aside from this I haven’t really seen any big UA-camrs doing a video on the Xbox voice record feature. Public voice chat is dead on Xbox since you can record anybody by clicking the Xbox button scrolling down and clicking record last 1 minute and it shows a list of players who’s voice you’d like to have recorded and then reported and then hours later you get a ban for saying something wrong or inappropriate.
@@iancardwell2382 If you can't complain to someone about their performance without suicide-baiting them, maybe you *should* be afraid to use voice chat.
IMO it all comes down to this: In the past shareholders served the purpose of enabling the company to satisfy the customers‘ demands. Nowadays the customers serve the purpose of enabling the company to satisfy the shareholders‘ demands.
Game Pass as a service was/is good for players yet horrible to the developers, cause who would normally buy a game for full prize if you could have it for half-prize or even less depending on the subscription plan in the release day? Maybe only those (a few) who value the product and want to support the devs. Nevertheless, Microsoft on one point had to change the strategy and charge up more. Xbox still gotta pay back the Activision deal and since the announcement of Cod coming to GP it was just a matter of time. I see what GP - a Phil Spencer baby - wanted to achieve and on paper it looks ok, you have access to large bibliography of games for small monthly fee but the devils is in the details, as always. IMO, Xbox should scrap it some time ago and come up with the new idea. But knowing Xbox and it's ideas, well... they're not the brightest bulb. They know how to showcases but when it comes to games or software/hardware, not so much.
@@frequencyoftruth2303 but compared to how the model used to be before the rework, and on top of the games they still have for free even if they rotate which games are on there, it's still a better deal .. and less financially harmful than what Xbox has been doing with gamepass
It’s so strange to me that the difference between standard and ultimate is day one releases, which they consider to be worth $5. That’s a quarter of the value they’re putting on day one releases and that just seems exorbitant.
I wish we got an affordable sub for only online play on services like PSN, I unsubbed PSN cuz of the price hike and I don't need the monthly games because I own so many games already. Not worth it. Switch has a well priced online sub at least.
Honestly, Im surprised this hasn't happened sooner. It was easy to subscribe for a month then play the new $70 game, and have access to a ton of other games for the price barely more than Netflix. As good as the service is, I wondered how it made money.
With subscription numbers stagnating, it feels like Microsoft and Xbox are flailing with Game Pass and all of these recent changes that devalue its original proposition.
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I knew you will talk about this
is Xbox trying to copy google stadia?
Game Pass's tiers are literally on par with Playstation's now. I am not sure why people struggle to see this.
Subscriptions stagnating and losing out to the competition? Just raise prices and provide fewer benefits! No thanks. Just say no to corporate gaming.
Ikr, instead of capitalising n adding/improving benefits, features and games to really shine n stick it to competitors...no, lets follow suit n fail along with them. Smh
@@Chezzraa Kind of hard to improve the library of your game subscription when you close award winning studios to save money you spent to buy said studios.
Not really loosing to the competition just reached maximum saturation. This was never gonna stay normal priced, when we have companies crying that $60 games are not profitable
@@Chezzraa They're not competing anymore, just giving each other ideas to stoop lower
It's all about license look what happened to Netflix.
Also. Remember when Microsoft explicitly told the ftc and the cma that gamepass wouldn't see an increase in price as a result of the Activision acquisition?
How the turn tables😂
L. Xbox knows what they're doing stop being dramatic.
@@TurtleChad1cope
They are fooling themselves if they think they will continue being popular after this lol it took a long time for Xbox to come back already look at how many are cancelling ps plus premium because they also went through recent changes.
@@frequencyoftruth2303 yeah but at this point I'd rather have premium than ultimate. Cheaper and won't result in developers losing their jobs because AAA games are being given away for free.
@@TurtleChad1 yeah, and we know what they're doing too. Charging more for less. You should kow this by now
This is an illusion of choice.
There should only be one tier.
Agreed, and leave Xbox Live Gold for people only want online play. The Core name change last year was also stupid as it barely has anything to do with Game Pass. Guess they wanted to inflate the Game Pass sub numbers to investors.
It really you always have choice you dont need gamepass you don't need day 1 games
Paying to play online when you already have to pay for internet is so fucked
Yeah but at the same time they sell us a console that is easily worth like a thousand dollars at a low price
The joys of remaining a PS3 gamer.
@@ras_732or PC
@@ras_732 No new games unfortunately
Microsoft should become an isp
“The only thing wrong with XBox Game Pass is that the second I recommend this to people, you already know snake-ass Microsoft is gonna triple the price on this thing” - videogamedunkey, 2021
Wow an hour early I had also wrote the same.
wow three years ago dunkey also said the same.
It went up like 3$ y'all have no shit what your talking about
@@The-One-and-Only Woahhh, its like they opened a time capsule! Cool!!
@@MasterJazz09Day 1 games went up from $10 to $20 in the last year on Xbox, how’s that $3? Might want to check your facts, and math, before saying other people don’t know what they are talking about.
Y'all should've seen this coming. The whole point was to sell you something you didn't need. Enjoy not owning anything
Remember: if you don't own it in some physical format you don't own it period.
You only own games if you get cartridges for switch. Physical games also need day 1 patches. Digital you can get in PS as well as Xbox. You think they will stop selling digital? Honest question.
Enjoy not owing anything? Elaborate.
@thatonedude6247 but who on Earth would do that when they can get away with NOT doing that...very shortsighted view and not understanding just how people do things.
@@tjenadonn6158Welcome To The Future .. It’s Here
The "No Day-1 games" tier exists as a price anchor to push people towards the pricier tier with Day-1 games
@MrSpiritstealer let's face it. Xbox only make like 1 game a year. Rarely good. So why care about the that tier at all. And if your all doing 3rd party... Just drop xbox all together. Go pc and over buy the PC pass 1 time. And but cheap games on steam. By the end of the year. Never need to come back. Or go Sony with PSN + or ++. Bunch of 3rd party with old 1st in there
@MrSpiritstealer Tell that to all the people who spend 20 extra dollars just to play Diablo 4 3 days early when the season wasn't even started yet.
People in 2024 will pay for literally fuckin anything at this point. People have so much money they apparently don't even know what to do with it.
Jokes on them cause I don’t care to wait for games newly released cause they are launched as garbage before they become good anyways. Lol
Dark Pattern. It's a crappy but effective way to get plebs to pay up
And as smart people say, "day 1 access" and "3 days early access" are just paying to avoid late access
This was always the plan
once they get you off physical discs and on to streaming only then they can jack up the prices as much as they want
and they will do it slowly, like a frog in a pot of water on a stove, just slowly heat it up
Yup, unfortunately, many support it
Use that to your advantage. All this does is make piracy even easier. You can pirate a lot of these games and even play them online with other people.
@@TheRealEclipse1you not gonna be able to pirate any new game if they only let you stream from their servers in real time - which is the exact Google Xbox game pass has in mind - just remember the old Microsoft DRM system, can't remember the name for it currently but that shit made me learn pirating just so I could play the games I bought.
@@ArkonBlade EXACTLY 💯 Most people are too dumb to realize this. It's like when they first opened self checkout lines. Everybody was like "it's way faster". Those pricks got you used to it, and now you're waiting in the self checkout line with ten people that have a cart full of groceries in front of you. People are too stupid to realize what's taking place before it takes place
I mainly play on pc but if a game is good I’ll buy a physical copy for the ps5, even if I don’t plan to play it any time soon. Nothing beats having a physical copy, I recently booted up the ps3 a played through Splatterhouse, without the physical copy I wouldn’t have been able to play it.
Cancelled my game pass long ago. I have yet to find a reason to go back. I'd rather just buy the games outright and actually own them
Really most people won't touch half of the game pass selection
@@nestormelendez9005 nevermind half, wouldnt be surprised if most people signed it because it has that one game they're eyeing and then let it expire
@@nestormelendez9005I mean half is like 250 games 😂. When do you have time for this
Same, only game I got into and invested in was Persona 5 Royal.
Everything else I tried for an hour or two and never finished.
Fr tho. Like the new call of duty coming out on day one. You would have to play fully and enjoy the game for only 3 months before you are paying more to play it rather than paying once to own it.
Not a surprised, every Subscription prices are charging more as inflation and greed goes up unfortunately
Inflation is greed
Or maybe they've just used billions for some acquisition recently?
Or maybe they've recently used billions for some acquisition
Inflation by itself doesnt cause this result, corporate gouging and greed are the reasons, unsustainable business practices, companies are obsessed with “higher number year over year” it’s ridiculous, and its going to bite them soon
Greedflation
Microsoft doesn't seem to realise that they aren't the market leader and they can't afford to shitify their product.
They are the market. No one is producing anything. This isn't the PS2 era.
The only thing keeping gaming from dying is the 30+ year back catalog. Every other company in the world is in hibernation mode due to the financial unrest.
@@MrJflomario Sony posts record annual profit boosted by chips and all-time high PlayStation 5 sales, yet some how they are in hibernation mode? they literally just hiked playstation prices and its $18 for their highest tier. yet no outrage lol. This is just the popular trend on youtube to shit on Xbox until one day they leave consoles for good
@@jimmymac2292as people should shit on them, same for PS. What most people are not talking about is that PS probably lost a lot of subrscriptions also, especially for the highest tier.
Having the best deal in gaming and the most powerfull console that doesn't live up to the said agenda Xbox was putting out. Their PR was not good and they reap what they sow. Sony smartly shuts up and just does it's stuff. Is Sony good, no, is the sub better, no, but they also never sais it was. It's just PR play in which Xbox is not that well versed.
Also, if a gamer needs a video of 1 random dude on the net to build an opinion, then that's just sad. People are not informed enough today and not from enough different sources. This is truly sad in this age with the easiest access to information
They may not be console leader but they are trillion dollar corp. They can essentially do whatever they want
@@MrJflomario Do I need to send you a link on how Nintendo & Capcom are thriving right now? Because right now, I think you are making sh!t up
At this rate, both the streaming and digitization era bubble will eventually burst.
This deal keeps getting worse all the time
They are altering the deal, pray they don't alter it any further
Who in the videogame industry keeps forcing those terrible graphs? They are always unreadable as hell and explain nothing.
That's the point : make it so unreadable that people just say "F it" and get either the most expensive for everything or just stay on the tier they already have (that Microshaft secretly jacked the price of)
Not just a video game industry thing. It’s a subscription thing, if they have tiers
Adobe acrobat does the same graphs; Hulu + does the same; etc
I think the point of those graphs is generally to upsell you on things you don't need
For example, the "digital deluxe edition" of games can have practically nothing of value added (let's say 2 skins + 1 small quest + some in-game currency). None of this is particularly valuable, but the graph shows the digital deluxe edition having at least twice as many "items" as the base game (+ season pass if relevant). Realistically, it's maybe + 0.2% extra content, but it's presented as +100% or more, to distract you from how worthless it actually is
Google: "Marketing Degree"
@Sazabi4prez well, that's the shitty thing. They kept the name for the now more expensive tier. If I wasn't so fucking anal about all this nonsense. I wouldn't have even known, and just went "fuck! They upped it again?". Where as, for someone like me (don't cloud game, and don't really care about day one access). The "standard" is the play, unless I'm missing something lol. But, I guarantee alot of people that suits. Just glances and decides right there. And, I don't blame them. I almost did this time. I had shit goin' on while I was tryin' to renew. So, I didn't get yanked out of a comp match. Then I see 1999 and went "damn, that's the year after I was born". Sorry, Pun-bad.
So $240 a year?? That's flippin insane 😅
That's when value inversion comes in. MS doesn't put out enough triple A titles into gamepass to justify 240$ when i could buy every game i'll be interested in that year with the same money. You won't get value out of gamepass now unless you go out of your way to play games you don't care about just because they're on gamepass
The subscription service model is a cancer on humanity.
This is objectively false. There is a place for them and some of them do offer value. Gamepass Ultimate did when it was still $15/mo.
Hmmm objectively false when your talking in the pretense how does that hold true in current or future models of subscriptions?
@@antikommunistischaktiontake a downvote
@@antikommunistischaktion you don't know what objective means.
@channelofstuff6662 Do people just have mass brain rot? The entire point is that you don't own the game, you're paying for access to the game and for some people that can come out cheaper. If you want the game you can, you know, *_buy the game, that's still an option!_*
The second I hear Tango Gameworks is gone my faith in Xbox was instantly killed
I remeber Xbox direct or whatever its called. Everyone praised the hell out of them after they bodied sony or whatever, completely forgetting that entire firing ordeal. 🤣. Gamers have gold fish memory i swear
Just cancelling my subscription. I was paying for the online access only, but still.
I have ZERO interest in cloud gaming and owning nothing for the pleasure. No console required? There goes any last hope of investing in anything XBOX going forward.
Part of the appeal of Game Pass is for gamers who can't afford anything more than a college laptop.
...or for getting past Sony's absurd PSN geolocking for games they publish. 😂
I welcome the ability to subscribe to a service like Game Pass, but there needs to be the option to purchase physical copies of games as well.
That being said, I want physical games to transition from fragile discs to alternative media like thumb drives. Especially with exceptionally large games like Starfield, or very large game packs like the Command and Conquer complete series pack.
Unless you buy from GoG, you don't really "own" your digital games either though.
Xbox already died in 2013 so I'm not surprised
@@yunjin909 What happened in 2013?
@@jaytecx5942XBOX ONE happened.
The entire point of gamepass since its inception was day 1 games. Locking that to a specific tier of the Same service is messed up and and kinda goes back on everything they've said. I wonder how their marketing will look in the future because they simply can't say "day 1 on gamepass" due to the fact only one tier has that perk, it would cause mass confusion.
Oh they'll still be boldly saying day 1 games, just with a little asterisk and small fine print in the bottom corner. Because they technically are still offering day 1 games and are technically being transparent about it. Isn't marketing fun?
No it wasn’t. The point was paying a relatively low monthly price to get access to a huge library of games, both well known hits as well as some of the lesser known indie games that actually count amongst the best games of all time.
It was definitely more "Netflix of games" than the Day 1 thing. Since the Standard plan now includes online multiplayer, it's actually not as bad as it's made out to be. I'm sure those changes were made with data in hand, so it will be pretty easy to market/advertise. The bad part is them doing a switcheroo on the Standard plan, but the price increase aspect was predictable.
Lol no. Gamepass was meant to just be a library of games to play. Nothing to do with day 1. That came way later
I see an eye lawsuit for not delivering on the day one games thing if someone paid for the annual subscription and now they can't get them I am not from there but I wouldn't be surprised if something comes up about that
These prices are extreme, you could just be buying games from a Steam sale and you get to own them. Witcher 3 was on sale for $5 just last month, why would you pay more to rent it? The value isn't there anymore, the "hundreds of free games" is not justified when you can only play a few of them at a time. You mind as well be spending that money on Steam or GOG.
Gog commercial comes to mind
The point of these subscriptions is testing games out before you buy. I’m not gonna jump in and say but Witcher 3 digitally (pc) for 5$ if I don’t know anything about it. I’d test it on the gamepass I like it I’ll buy it either physical (console) or on PC(digital) next sale
Yeah I thought about getting a fire stick because I don't have an Xbox console, but then I realized I would be spending $240 a year on GamePass... I'm not even spending anything close to that on PS5 games
@@freddied8479 3 AAA titles a year at 70 is 210 plus 30 for indies i mean thats game pass
w3 is 10 years old!!!
Microsoft doing more dumb shit is my guess based on the title - business as usual, I take it
Yeah I don’t think Xbox has control anymore of itself it’s most likely Microsoft pulling the strings now. And if I was in the Xbox office when being presented that activision/ blizzard should be bought I would of said no because I already know we’re not gonna profit fast enough for Microsoft to like it and then it’s Microsoft who will take charge.
Microsoft buying Activision Blizzard is one of the biggest backfires of the history of videogames.
Edit. I mean players, especially Xbox fanboys, who celebrated the acquisition, thinking it was going to be good for customers, and happy that the Activision Blizzard games were never coming to PlayStation again.
The retardation of the decision makers at Act/Blizz is seemingly contagious and infected Microsoft as well.
It's only beaten in this category by embracer group buying 20 studios and shutting down half of them a year later
Nah that not that bad honestly.
Sony buy basically only destiny for billions is crazier. 😂😂😂
@@silverdamascus2023 The stupidity of the decision makers ar Act/Blizz seems to be contagious and is infecting Microsoft as well.
(Is that better free speech haters?)
@@CyrusIsnt I meant that for players who celebrated, thinking that somehow, this acquisition was going to be good for customers.
I watched Epic game store fail, I watched Gamepass implode. I kept buying games on Steam. I'm doing great.
Gog
It's funny because Gamepass would probably do rather well if it supported Steam.
@@joshallen128Gog bent the knee and are now allowing DRM.
Years ago people wouldn't believe this "no steam no buy" nonsense :D
@@El3ktroHexe no steam no gog no drm free no but
When there's a tier with Day 1 games and another tier without Day 1 games, having Day 1 games is no longer a standard, it's a luxury.
It's just like when Netflix and other services added a tier with ads, they killed a big reason why people left cable and went to streaming, cable used to have no ads, you were already paying, then they started to have more ads than free TV, streaming thrived when it was ad-free, the option of having a cheaper tier with ads will hurt those who pay for the tier without ads, it's not "just an option".
Streaming is also pretty dead, because shows randomly distribute themselves among them now. The day I gave up on 99% of streaming was when I went to find a movie that ALL OF THEM SAID THEY HAD only for it to be on one of the more obscure ones. So I spent 10 minutes going through 14 different apps on my TV, 6 of which I was paying a monthly subscription for. It should be illegal to advertise having a movie on your site when you don't and it is pathetic that 400 years later the world still just considers that as normal business. Blatant false advertising has killed more people than sharks and bears combined and it's still legal.
@@setcheck67 They do have it... On a different region.
Just a few months back i got into Made In Abyss. My region doesn't have it on Crunchyroll but both seasons are on Netflix, except the OVA Dawn of the Deep Soul which i scoured every streaming service which advertised itself as having it, only to find that it's not available in any streaming service in my region... At which point i just turned to piracy and had a much easier time watching it.
Streaming services suck now because there's too many of them and they have too many restrictions on who gets what in which region. It's impossible to just get what you want in a straightforward way.
And THIS, ladies & gentleman, is why owning your games PHYSICALLY triumphs EVERYTHING!
I still think it’s funny how paying for subscriptions on video games is normalized like the idea itself isn’t the most idiotic thing to ever be made of.
Okay, that’s a little pretentious buddy.
@@randomguy6679 cause it’s fucking stupid
It's a great idea and at the original price point it was an amazing value. Here's the fun part, you can still buy games if you want. It's not like the "buy" button is locked out the moment you sign up for Gamepass.
@@antikommunistischaktionyou just spend more for no reason. Sure the original price is good but anyone can see such price is not going to be for long.
@@randomguy6679Until games will be subscription exclusive. Like some tv shows already are.
I think business wise Microsoft hasn't made a single good decision with XBOX and has been only destroying its reputation from a gaming giant to a place that studios go to die
Singling out Microsoft for slowly getting a reputation that the *entire AAA games industry* has had since the late 2010s. Good joke.
While you are correct that Microsoft is digging that accursed trench in the field, it is important to remember the fact that EA is the king of running studios into the ground. Activision Blizzard, Take 2 Interactive, Sony Entertainment, and Ubisoft Studios are all way ahead of Microsoft as well.
Hell, the only success Microsoft had, the 360, happened strictly because Sony charged an arm and a leg for a PS3. If they had both come out at the same price and Microsoft had still had those horrendous red ring issues, there would have been a lot more people ignoring XBOX long before Mattrick decided to shit himself in public.
@@originalscreenname44Nah, even if the PS3 was $100 cheaper and released same day the 360 still would have picked up due to programs like XBLA which gave the platform a lot of fun indie games, and there was also the fact that games just performed better on the 360 even if the PS3 was more powerful on paper. Even the Kinect was so successful that Sony had to copy it.
@@originalscreenname44that’s just it from the start Microsoft kept giving Xbox money to keep going without them Xbox would not be around. Every single time they screwed up they asked Microsoft for money to fix it and they would but still they never got it right. Xbox 360 in the documentary would have been gone if they weren’t given money to fix the red ring of death. Xbox one they really did a number on themselves by becoming as presented at the press conference a tv console not a gaming console. Too much they have messed up and now I’m thinking they will become the next sega just publishing games and not actually a console anymore wich is ironic because when the sega console died sega helped create nothing but games for Xbox
Companies want infinite growth, but don't understand that is literally impossible. Also they have Activision/Blizzard now; a Gamepass subscription should come with a WoW sub or something.
I remember a lot of people kept saying that Microsoft buying all these studios would lead to something like this and got drowned out
The moment I saw "Play it day one with gamepass" in their recent showcase on the first game, I knew this would've happen.
been like that for years
It was such a good deal that it couldn't possibly last. Scaling back the massive value was inevitable, sadly.
It could have lasted if there was enough scale. Sadly MS never achieved that as their cloud streaming tech still as good as nvidias, and they need single digit costing gamepass packages (in my opinion $3-5) for the hundreds of millions of casual gamers out there. Only core gamers are going to spend 15-20/month on a game service, and core gamers already have a console or want the latency /performance benefit an actual console can provide
@@AthleticHobo-br4qhinternet is something outside Microsoft control
@@AthleticHobo-br4qhinternet is something outside Microsoft control
Definitely going PC for the next gen instead of getting another Xbox
Nvidia is going to bilk you of all your money
@@AthleticHobo-br4qhthey don’t have any mandatory subscriptions with their hardware. Also AMD is a thing.
I've been a PC gamer since 1989 and I'll always be. There's a higher barrier of entry, of course, but it is ALWAYS worth it after a while.
And the fact that PCs don't really have gens is the icing on the cake. I can play 1993's Doom and Doom Eternal on the same machone without having to wait for an updated port. I can play 1992's Alone in the Dark, move on to the Resident Evil series and play RE1 to 8 on the same PC!
@@AthleticHobo-br4qh I'm not upgrading every year. I'm going to build a PC spec better than the next gen consoles then I'll make savings on not having to pay subscription fees like Gamepass and will have lower game costs. So basically I'll claw back the initial costs through time.
Tbh pc gaming boring bought it couldn’t find anything interesting
Insert Dave Chapelle meme, "'Why? 'Cus fk'em, that's why."
"We should get comfortable with not owning our games" they said. "It will be better" they said...
Did they say it would be better?
@@sebastianalhares If they did, they meant for them and no one else.
Thank you for the heads up, I just canceled my gamepass subscription. There is no way I'm paying 20$ a month for any subscription I mean 17.99 was already a stretch and was already thinking about canceling but 20$ which is like 22$ after tax is a deal breaker. Specially since most of the games for gamepass in last 6 months have been mediocre at best.
I can't believe I'm going to say this but I miss the 60$ a year for gold even though that was a rip-off as well.
Everything for you is is a rip off 💀. Go to acrica then see how much better you enlloy it there.
Just like Kroger buying out competition left and right so that they could increase prices, it's the same thing with MS and other monopolization. People were cheering with MS buying out other developers. Well, here we are
It's not really surprising that PC players get a better deal. Because on PC, they have alternatives, so Xbox has to be more competitive there. And the whole "day-and-date" thing doesn't mean anything if they can't get some truly great 1st party releases out the door.
I said this years ago. It's not a good service. It's 95% filler for a few gems which overall your better off just buying on sale. Now without day 1 releases there is NO reason to get the game pass. Might aswell wait for sales and build your library through game sales.
It's still day 1 you clown
It's almost like the whole reason Microsoft was buying up all the competition was so it wouldn't have any competition
A price hike when most of their games on game pass are crap
price hike after firing studios that make better cheaper games while funding expensive studios that make flops is stupid as shit , short term they are going to make a lot of money but long term they are finished
Tell me you're playing only one type of games without telling me you're playing only one type of games.
Ok this is just a stupid comment. There are plenty of good games on game pass
@@thrpotatoasfgfejfidieiidkr7071 good for you if you think so that doesn’t mean everybody has to agree with you some do and some don’t. If you think they have games great but I don’t Xbox has good games I like Xbox but the selection for game pass is crap in my opinion. Games that I do see are not on game pass
There shouldn’t even be a Standard. It’s just complicating things. Charge everyone $16 or $17, rather than one group paying $15 and one group paying $20. It going to make marketing gamepass a joke. All those presentations at the showcase ended with “Day One on GamePass,” not “Day One on GamePass Ultimate.”
You don’t get a library of games. You rent a library of games for a high price.
You noticed how things have only gotten worse for Microsoft ever since they acquired Activision Blizzard? They’ve laid off like 5,000 people, started porting their 1st party games to PS5, stopped advertising Xbox in Europe, and also increased Game Pass prices AGAIN. They will increase it again next year too.
At this point, you guys are much better off canceling your subscriptions and simply buying the games you want on sale for $20-30. The current Game Pass catalog is literal garbage anyway, it’s not like there’s always good games there, they’re always coming and going.
I also find it pretty funny that people talk about Game Pass because of the recognizable name, and yet PS Plus Extra actually has way better games right now including Sony’s own 1st party games. Just saying. Xbox is done.
They spent 100 billion this is desperation moves for quick profit.
Yep I’m selling mine I see the writing on the wall , the console is going going gone
Said this many times, but I'm an old git that's been gaming since the mid 1970s. I used to mess around with electronics and got bit by the first computer kits. I was hooked and so I bought quite a few different computers and consoles and have still kept them, because I play all of them. Since then, there's been some really great times - the early 1980s were a time of great innovation in the arcades and at home both. I went offf a bit during the Sega era as I don't like beat em ups. But got back in heavily during the PS1 era. The PS2 era was another golden age where there were tons of great games as there was a sweet spot between innovation and costs weren't too high yet.
But this generation has been the first where I haven't bought anything. I tend to loosely work on buying a platform when there's about 6 or so exclusives I want, and neither the PS5 nor the Xbox offer this still today. I have a Switch and that's great but that's besides the point.
This generation is not only bloated, lacking in experimentation and run by complete idiots, but they seem to be making greedy business decisions that only turn me even further away.
Some have said there'll be a crash - there won't as it's too big for that. But there may be a sea change where smaller devs crop up and create smaller innovative games, much like the PS2 era and triple A will either crash and burn or come to accept this.
The fact there is an 'EA Play and Riot Games Benefits' section to the chart sickens me.
Why?
@@nothinisworthit he's just being a hater for nothing
Why did so many people even like this dumb comment
that was their plan, to make it cheap to get as many people as possible, then after having the monopoly they increase their prices. thats why i hate to depend on online gaming and digital games
Are people just mass forgetting that you're still 100% free to buy games if you don't want Gamepass?
@@antikommunistischaktion
Are you just forgetting that people are still allowed to point out Microsoft's bullshit when they see it, even though they themselves aren't eating it?
@@Joker-dn5xs You can point out bullshit without being intellectually dishonest. So many people are pretending that Gamepass somehow precludes buying games outright.
Lol what monopoly?
It's crazy that no day-1 games is now the standard. The entire promise of the service is that you get those big xbox exclusives day 1, alongside the bigger catalogue of 3rd party games. Without those day 1s, it's just a service to let you play older games that would probably already be on-sale at a store by the time they hit game pass. I think i'd rather own my games at a discount, than rent them on a discount.
Having to pay for internet plus internet on a console and now you pay to borrow their shit 💩 what’s next !
Price hike for yanks btw us Brits have had to pay 12.99 for months 😅
Factoring in the exchange rate between GBP & USD, that works out to slightly less than we've been paying all year.
It's the corporate cycle. Business is successful, so for more success execs take away what makes it successful. What? Sales are down! Fired! You're all fired! Execs are never wrong! Repeat.
The first step is referring to TV TV TV, I take it?
They have to do it or there's no reason to ever buy a Xbox console or their games at this point. Microsoft cut off their own foot then got mad when they had to eat it. We all knew it was a bad business decision in the long run, why buy the game when I get it for $10 a month on release? Heck, why would I own a Xbox when I can play that game day 1 on my PC?
Console manufacturers don't actually care about you buying the consoles. They usually sell them at cost or maybe slightly above it, because the goal is software sales. The end-game goal for Microsoft was never about making XBOX great, it's about absorbing the market. They want to pull EVERYONE in using cloud services and streaming, what google Stadia was trying to do. Microsoft might actually be able to pull it off too, because Stadia failed on account of their service being really bizarre from the consumers point in value and Microsoft has the money to actually sustain it.
@@setcheck67 I would counter that I don't believe Microsoft can pull it off at all. They are the masters of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and will find ways to make things worse. You can see that with how they run Windows and their entire software suite. Every release is yet another new thing that pisses people off, whether it's Recall, or adding ads in Explorer, forcing One Drive backups, or begging people to use Edge. Difference there is they have people locked in with Windows, whereas people have plenty of other places to get video games. I have no doubt that whatever Microsoft is planning, they will screw up big time.
At some point, prices are going to eventually make it where nobody will think subscription services are worth it. I'm already there. I play on PC and PS5 mainly and don't use a single sub service.
Yet you spend hundreds of dollars on games like Stellar Cheeks or Rise of the Turd
At this point you might as well just buy the individual games than actually subbing, it's pretty much better value for your money at this point lol
Fax
And I highly doubt that people who only by 1-3 games a year are going to go for it if COD is one of them. It will be cheaper to buy COD even at $70 than to have to buy Game Pass and spend $240 to play it all year.
Uhh... I guess if you completely ignore the fact that can try a game and not waste $70 finding out you don't like it.
I can also try out 20 games a month if I want, and not spend more than $20. Not sure how people see this as bad. It's only $4 more than what I pay now.
@@ZaleraArkanus666FWIW Microsoft does allow refunds if you request it within 2 weeks and have not played much of the game.
@@antikommunistischaktion With a limit to how many time you can do it, and you don't always get your money back quickly.
Or I could just keep using Gamepass without that hassle.
Every day I feel more and more relieved that I moved to pc back in 2019
I moved to PC in 2014. Glad I did too, I was on the Xbox 360, but the Xbox One scared me away.
@@ChanceTMI got the ps4 just because I liked the design and had NO clue about the drm nonsense dumb luck on my part
Pc the only way ill game going forward consoles are an absolute cluster fuck of overmonetization
And deal with extremely expensive hardware, compilation stutter, no physical disk ownership and increasingly monopolistic ecosystems (Nvidia, Valve). I wouldn't say it is all peachy on this side of the fence either.
@@lycanwarrior2137Hey buddy, I don't know how to better tell you this, but physical disc ownership on consoles is quite literally worthless at this point. 9 times out of 10 the disc doesn't actually contain any game data and even that 10% that does its incomplete or buggy as all get out.
Who actually thought they owned the games on a rental/streaming service?
You know if you have netflix, you don't actually own the movies right.
Microsoft gaming. Wish we could go back to the era where it was just SEGA Nintendo and Sony
You never know of course more and more people are asking for Sega to do a console comeback, and now that their priorites are straight I think they'd at least do better than Microsoft or Sony right now.
No just sega and Nintendo
Hey, the original Xbox and 360 were great.
"Game Pass model doesn't make any sense. It looks unsustainable." - Jim Ryan, 2020
Yet he's gone and gave you Concord lmao
Next idea an even lower tier that has ads.... A stupid world we live in...
Yeah I canceled my game pass I do t use it enough and they have pushed me out of the market of it. I just can’t afford it anymore saddly I’m to poor.
I have begun moving to PC, it was nice knowing you xbox.
Ive been gaming since famicom era and bought consoles every generation. I have two ps5s one premium and the other one modded. I got valve index and a quest 3 tethered to a rog ally gaming laptop but I watch movies, youtube videos, tiktok, and checking facebook. I have less time for gaming. Im 49 by the way.
Closing studios and rising prices. They mad a big blip with age 80 billion acquisition still dumb that they how property any to proceed
I migrated to PC a few years ago from Xbox, so got the pc game pass. I could play with friends using the xbox but the lack of day one new titles to allow me to keep playing with friends is sorely lacking.
If your company is forced to rely on infinite growth, you're *heavily* mismanaged.
Step one, provide the best deal that the customers can't resist.
Step two, get the market share and lure the customers to invest on the platform.
Step three, jacking up the price until the value is slightly better than the second competitor.
Then the cycle resets when the next deal breaker appears.
It's not inflation! It's greed!
straight up
I'm so exhausted with Microsoft. Once my ultimate subscription runs out early next year, I'll be downgrading to core, and saving up for a PC for the rest of the generation.
As a staunch Xbox loyalist over the years, I'm tired and just don't care anymore. Will happily support their games on PC going forward.
Name one game worth game pass released in 2024...
Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth
Evil West, Diablo IV, Hellblade 2, The Quarry, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Octopath Traveler 2, Callisto Protocol, Palworld, Tchia, Lords Of The Fallen, Flintlock
Persona 3 Reload + it's upcoming DLC included.
Offline physical games and DRM free games is the only positive way for gamers.
As a ps player, I'm wishing the xbro's the best
As a ps and xbox player who wanted them to buy Activision, we f@cked up
How 343 have made it past all these “cuts” is beyond surprising to many of us!
The worst thing about digital games is the prices drop when they want them to, not when the users determine a games value by putting it online.
I want to play Jedi Survivor and it’s still full price.
I’m a father with 2 kids, a mortgage and bills. I’m not poor, but 60 pounds is a day out with the kids or a game with 8 hours fun. So 8 hours fun with the kids vs 8 hours of fun on my own. Y but eBay has it for consoles at like 15 pounds.
You can partially blame Steam's monopolistic position in the market.
@@lycanwarrior2137Steam is FAR from the only one at fault though.
@@lycanwarrior2137that’s not steams fault. The PSN and Xbox stores are the same. That includes exclusives.
Are you sure that you really looked? I did a quick search and found a PC key for under $25. And it was $31.49 during the Steam summer sale that just ended.
@@kyriosmalaka2312 For what game exactly?
This is so aggrovating. This is clear evidence that the capitalistic "we always need to grow" mindset is SO bad for business. Doing that and you stagnate. There are only so many gamers. and only so many of them would be interested in gamepass. Now, Microsoft invested so much in getting people to buy the membership, now they are unable to afford the content FOR the gamepass. I wish they would just set a goal, and use all the profits to maintain their gaming structure. instead of trying to grow and grow. Just refine. thats all. smh
we just want to be able to play online for free. it should be illegal to charge money for that. let's start a petition.
I knew this would happen eventually. Making games accessible on Game Pass day one would only benefit Xbox in the short-term. It was going to eat into development costs eventually and we finally reached this point.
all subscription services have hyped up in en*****ification like mad this past year. They are making RECORD profits, and they are cutting costs to make the product you are buying worse.
They're only making "record profits" because their profits are inflated like everything else.
Yea I canceled Game Pass and went and got a PS5. It's been a pleasure 🤗
They spent a lot of money to get games like black ops day one the price increase isn’t much of a surprise.
Bro it's crazy when you realize we are paying for the money they spent buying Activision
Edit: spelling
@@nestormelendez9005we’re paying their debt pretty much
It’s a little surprising since they explicitly said they wouldn’t increase the price due to the acquisition in the FTC trial
@@T_Holmesanyone who believe that deserves to pay more really. There's no way they are going to honor it.
@@KPX01true. I feel like it should be illegal for them to do this then but whatever
Great coverage as always 👊🏿. And I'm sure no one is surprised. It's why so many people pushed back on the subscription models that ksep getting pushed in gaming. And the more and more people go digital the more reliant people will become on these subscriptions once physical media stops being made. Which is a sad inevitability even tho as someone who buys physical i hope we continue to fight the fight to keep physical media alive and have that separation before we all get subscriptioned to death where you end up paying for things you barely use but they hook you in just for the odd good thing here or there like with the Netflix model.
Well the good news is that these companies just keep making it so easy for people like us to be proven right. As early as Disney plus got announced I said all digital would cause way too many problems, and in the years after companies kept behaving exactly how i thought they would in a scenario where it's all digital and they are still doing it. But thanks to that more people are understanding what their really trying to do by forcing an all digital future. Whether it's movie companies or video game ones no one has the right to take what you payed your hard earned money on.
@@Cloud-dt6xb Yep 🎯. Very sad outcome. Coz yeah the companies could actually be doing something good with the digital media position for them strengthening but they just did the predictable thing of tryna gauge more and more whilst giving consumers less and less. All in the name of the bottom line.
@@TheOnlyTaps So long as more people realize what their really giving up by letting this crap slide then it's fine. Push back and hurt their wallets that's how we ensure we get to keep owning what we buy.
@@Cloud-dt6xb 🎯💯
Microsoft gotta get back that Blizzard Purchase Money back somehow 😒
I buy 12 months of Core for $60 on Amazon and pay full price for my games call it a day. A good game comes out once or twice a year. I don't have time to play 25 different games a month.
People constantly give Sony shit but I swear there's no bigger fuck up in gaming then Microsoft.
They literally hit gold with Gamepass, so much so that they made Sony try to copy it, and everybody hated the tier system that PS+ turned into.
So what does Microsoft do? Copy Sony's crap tier system to a T AND CHARGE DOUBLE....
I can't even try to fathom any of it...
people shits on sony because people care about playstation brand and they expect from ps to do better
and xbox dont get hate bc no one really gives af about then only braindead fanboys
Extremely expected, you could see this price increase coming from a mile away, but still Microsoft is going down the wrong path. Exclusives are less bad then renting/subscriptions
Aside from this I haven’t really seen any big UA-camrs doing a video on the Xbox voice record feature. Public voice chat is dead on Xbox since you can record anybody by clicking the Xbox button scrolling down and clicking record last 1 minute and it shows a list of players who’s voice you’d like to have recorded and then reported and then hours later you get a ban for saying something wrong or inappropriate.
Okay, so the slur-spewers are finally shutting up. This is a problem how?
Then don't say something wrong or inappropriate. Simple as that.
Players that say "Gg guys" instead of "self delete yourself" have nothing to fear.
@@sepphoris8463You're missing the point if you can't call someone a pussy for using riot shield in cod are you really gaming?
@sepphoris8463 Its your right to let them know they're bad at the game
@@iancardwell2382 If you can't complain to someone about their performance without suicide-baiting them, maybe you *should* be afraid to use voice chat.
IMO it all comes down to this:
In the past shareholders served the purpose of enabling the company to satisfy the customers‘ demands.
Nowadays the customers serve the purpose of enabling the company to satisfy the shareholders‘ demands.
Raising prices was the plan all along. Achieve subscription dominance. Then slowly raise prices.
PC is looking more and more attractive, isn't it console gamers?
Nah..good with my Switch. I enjoy playing fun games.
Game Pass as a service was/is good for players yet horrible to the developers, cause who would normally buy a game for full prize if you could have it for half-prize or even less depending on the subscription plan in the release day? Maybe only those (a few) who value the product and want to support the devs.
Nevertheless, Microsoft on one point had to change the strategy and charge up more. Xbox still gotta pay back the Activision deal and since the announcement of Cod coming to GP it was just a matter of time.
I see what GP - a Phil Spencer baby - wanted to achieve and on paper it looks ok, you have access to large bibliography of games for small monthly fee but the devils is in the details, as always. IMO, Xbox should scrap it some time ago and come up with the new idea. But knowing Xbox and it's ideas, well... they're not the brightest bulb. They know how to showcases but when it comes to games or software/hardware, not so much.
Maybe it's an unpopular opinion, but I truly believe PS Plus is more attractive than Gamepass.
Been saying this for years now.
They recently got rid of a ton of games and aren't adding many good ones many are cancelling
@@frequencyoftruth2303 but compared to how the model used to be before the rework, and on top of the games they still have for free even if they rotate which games are on there, it's still a better deal .. and less financially harmful than what Xbox has been doing with gamepass
@@frequencyoftruth2303doesn’t the library rotate like Gamepass? That would mean those games that were removed will eventually return.
@@redcobra6016 not 17 of them without replacing them they gave out 3 games one or two only being decent.
It’s so strange to me that the difference between standard and ultimate is day one releases, which they consider to be worth $5. That’s a quarter of the value they’re putting on day one releases and that just seems exorbitant.
Also, no subscription service needs to be a spreadsheet on your options.
I wish we got an affordable sub for only online play on services like PSN, I unsubbed PSN cuz of the price hike and I don't need the monthly games because I own so many games already. Not worth it. Switch has a well priced online sub at least.
Never been a better time to be a PC gamer 😎
It's simple, make good games. Once again Phill and his leaders are getting let off the hook with their poor leadership being hands off.
If console cost more than PC that is a bad sign.
Honestly, Im surprised this hasn't happened sooner. It was easy to subscribe for a month then play the new $70 game, and have access to a ton of other games for the price barely more than Netflix. As good as the service is, I wondered how it made money.
My xbox one still collecting dust. I originally only bought it cheap to play PS02 because I was tired of Destiny 2 and computer broke