I just watched the film on UA-cam last night - reminded me how the Blair Witch project took off- pretty genius/trendy to improvise a film at the time, I tried to use that idea as a Theatre Major and my professor hated it in 2001…😅
Where it is apparent that DeCaprio seems to forget the camera is there, Toby seems to always come across as though he is distinctly aware that he is on camera. DeCaprio is obviously more comfortable, which is why i think he is the better actor. because he comes across as genuine where Maguire's performance comes across like... well, a performance.
Toby Mguire took advantage of the fact that Leo was unsure of the film from the start.He twisted people’s words and tried to sabotage the film and its producers.He told Leo that they were trying to pin the press against him and obviously, he’s not gonna want that.ESPECIALLY not at that time.Titanic was either about to come out or had just come out and if the press was quote on quote “pinned against him” it could have potentially ruined his career.Toby knew how he would react to that and used it against him.
@@rahma02218 I don't think there are bad guys. It's not that linear. Everything was done from a place of immaturity, ambition and naivety from everyone.
@@DaleWheatleywrites but "If Tobey had just approached you like a friend and said 'hey, this is going to be bad for me can we shelve it?'" When you said no, in my opinion you are a bit of a hypocrite. You can't have your cake and eat it too. That was your friend. If he came up to you as a FRIEND and pleaded with you, then I'd hope you'd have respect and common sense to at least hold off. Because now it's apparent to me that you feel betrayed by Tobey and Leo, but you didn't have respect for them as it was.
This film is a con. It was a student film. Dicaprio did the director a favour by giving him a weekend so that he would not have to pay any actors. It was a favour. It was never intended to be a commercial movie. After Titanic came out the student, who had dropped out, decided to cash in by having the student film padded out with non DiCaprio footage and released it as a commercial movie. The advertising this low life uses is to claim that the movie is so controversial that DiCaprio wants it banned. Bullshit. Nobody cares if you see it. What DiCaprio was concerned about was the low quality of this feeble film, and that audiences would feel conned. Of course, the film itself has nothing contraversial or even remotely interesting going on. Of course DiCaprio is great in it. You just can't bury good talent. Even in a turd of a film like this.
@@davidniggemeyer1692 In retrospect do you think you tried to hard and could have avoided being black listed by letting it go and working on a different movie or something i am an amateur filmmaker this doc made me scared to work in movies all this seemed uncalled for still don't see what the big fat deal is
@@davidniggemeyer1692 well i don't get paid for my short films and i work a day job and I'm not licensed in any department so i guess professional would be some one who the profession is not a passion but a job they can afford to leave there day job i cant do any of that not sure if i ever will so i am an armature answer your question
Okay as much as this 'film' exposes the assholery of the cast I also agree that they should NOT have advertised it as a short and then decided to profit off of the stars' names and make a feature film. Also this Dale guy is obviously living in his past failures because clearly he wasn't able to make a successful career in filmmaking and he should have moved on a long time ago.
He was blacklisted by major Hollywood actors.. don't think he's a Spielberg necessarily, but this man also infested his own time into this and endured significant financial damages.. and Tobey Maguire selfishly wanted to tank the entire film because of his own insecurities and started drama among his friends like a middle school girl..
@@kevinhunt1202 I think it was done like CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM in the sense that there’s a written story and plot but the actors improvised the dialogue, but it was definitely a written story
He’s still completely delusional too. “This movie is raw, crazy, uncomfortable…” as if it’s some great European style film. It’s just a bad film. The fact he still hasn’t realized this at his age is somewhat disturbing.
I’m highly confused about this whole film. What was the point of it being made, it’s a film of them in a restaurant for over an hour improvising, people thought Leo was a dick after this because they thought that’s the way he actually acted in real life, sounds like to me the director just needed a top notch actor in his shitty film to make it better. What was his intentions anyway, this film is pointless, the conversations in it just switch from one topic to another, talks about sex then all of a sudden suicide. There’s something about the director that seem so off..almost like he wanted to expose these amazing actors.
Don's Plum is an art-house/avant garde film in the sub-genre of slice-of-life. It's film that shows the struggles of growing up - it deals with the issues of the time - issues around sexuality, drugs, abuse, suicide, depression, peer pressure - I mean we took on a lot. I think our most ambitious goal was to try and relate to many generations and I think we achieved that. It's not for everyone and I completely understand that, but those who get it, love it.
@@DaleWheatleywrites yo can you send me the movie of leo playing connect four you talked about in the doc,,,,asking for a friend. also i'm sorry tobey maguire ruined your bag.
I actually really like it. But I can definitely see why some people would find it boring and pointless. It’s just a slice of life film about young, rich, arrogant teens.
@@DaleWheatleywrites I actually liked the film. A few cringey scenes (though probably intentional), but I didn't think it was as bad as these people were making it out to be.. feel like Tobey got way too controlling, into his own head about his performance, and went on a power trip..
The intriguing behind the scenes story of DON'S PLUM would be a highly interesting subject matter for a STAGE PLAY if a movie script regarding this same topic is deemed controversial.
These dudes were just trying to cash in on they’re friends new found stardom and got mad when they’re “friends” didn’t like the film and thought it could hurt they’re younger careers.
Thing is, Tobey CAN act. He has delivered some great performances in his time and as much of a douche as he apparently is- I have to say, he was right to block this movie from coming out as his performance was bad and it could have damaged his career. Which hadn't even begun yet tbf
The thing is that's it's not all about Tobey.. maybe some of the other lesser-known actors would have liked it to be released because they actually liked their performances? I think he was pretty selfish trying to block it just because he didn't like it. If it was allowed to be released, people would've possibly forgotten about it in a couple of years..
Not too bright are you lol... imagine reading three pages of the book and then saying I wish there was more to this book. You've got to read further to get further. Watch episode 3 Genius
that question fits more with tobey, he barely had any recognized movie as the doc says but could and has the skills to took off the movie only by simple friends contacts
Well, the 2 reasons this movie never came out and people's careers got destroyed, was because Leo outshined Tobey, and everyone in Hollywood would know about his "preferences". Tobey got Spiderman and became a mega star, end of story.
@@ManuMiAS well, it Was Tobey who wanted it destroyed...and the reason was he said he liked putting a pinky up his own rear while playing with himself.
Man, I'm just fighting for my work and for right to my work - regardless of anyone's opinion. I deserve the same rights as everyone else. I'm tryingf to save my film and in some respects, my life. I don't view my work as nothing - it means the world to me. Perhaps if you accomplish something as intense as a feature film you'd be more understanding. Stay safe.
No no the doc is quite well made and interesting. Now the movie on the other hand, that definitely was a desperate attempt to make something out of nothing.
The fact that there is a storm brewing in the background as he tells this story adds to the poetic effect of this video lol. Honestly, Tobey was doing everything that he could to get the film canned due to what his agent told him about his career being ruined by getting compared to Leo. The bit he gave him about the tabloids gave him the fuel he needed to go even more crazy.
These guys sound like such losers lol how is it your movie if the whole thing is the actors improving a dinner conversation. The guy’s description of Toby losing it sounds like satire
Man, they should have just cut a short film from this (like the original plan) and got that short into Sundance, etc. Then make a feature film with a different story next time around lol. Would have saved a lot of drama, maybe their careers.
You think he's suss now that the Diddy stuff has come out and Diddy said Leo was his number 1 party guest? Birds of a feather. And Tobey is Leo's bff. They're all terrible people. I believe Dale.
It's simultaneously hilarious, depressing and fascinating how this guy can't move on. He has literally allowed his life to be defined by an unlucky turn back in the mid 1990s.
The movie was terrible. Just sexist garbage spewed out over an entire project with the haha you should be laughing even though nothing they say is funny. No wonder they didn't want this out.
Well the doc is quite well made and interesting. Now the movie on the other hand, that definitely was a desperate self-absorbed attempt to make something out of nothing.
Bro, if you have "deep rooted" friendships with all these people and every single one of them have the same issue with you, read the room. You're the problem.
I don't know who you're talking about, but if it's me I didn't have any problems with any of my friends until Tobey did what he did. In fact it was the opposite.
I don't get it either. I was way into independent films in the 90s. I hated big Hollywood movies with their predictable beginning, middle, and endings that were all the same. This film would have been right up my alley, and it would not have made me think any less of Leonardo or Toby. In fact, it would have made me like them more for being willing to do a low budget, independent film.
Dude this is so bad you can clearly see he's lying and has a disdain for Toby Maguire for some reason 😂😂. And he makes himself come of as a saint throughout the documentary 💀
being from their age group it was hard to understand what the huge deal was over Leo or tobey at the time in the mid 90s. I didn't know anyone who didn't feel the same way. look backs like these type of vids explain alot, Hollywood is high school with agents, contracts and press makers.
Yeah but there huge stars now, at that Tobey Was a nobody that could’ve hurt his career and maybe he doesn’t get Spider-Man, Fear and Loathing, pleasantville, the cider house rules, seabiscuit!!
Apparently it’s been taken down before, so perhaps one day it won’t be on UA-cam anymore. Don’t know if DiCaprio or Maguire know about it being on UA-cam right now. If not, that may be the only reason it’s available to view right now.
Except they aren't, they show the goodness of heart of Leo, they are honest about how he was being immature, but you can tell the honesty, Tobey Maguire is the bad guy here, he ruined the group's friendship
Hey, we all make mistakes when we're young, and this was certainly one. Maguire (who we all now know, for the record, is/was not a nice guy, period, to put it mildly): "I WANT DON'S PLUM TO BURN!!! NOW GIVE ME THE GASOLINE!!" Wheatley: "Okay, here you go....Wait, no, please, dont!!!" What did he think would happen?
It sounds like Tobey was trying to get the best excuse to call the project off, and he had what he had come for. It was so innocent of the dude to tell him that line. Noot his fault, he would have made up something or.find other excuse it seems to me.
@loveutilltheendoftimes9132 Why Do You Think Leonardo DiCaprio And Tobey Maguire Got All Mad. It Was When Leo Was Gonna Do Titanic, And Tobey Was Gonna Do Pleasantville, And Spider-Man.
I thought Toby shined brightest in this movie. I don’t know if it was intentional, but he had kind of a weird serial killer vibe. He was interesting and funny to watch. Idk if he ever played that type of character in later films, but that type of role suits him.
I agree, it’s quite revolting in a lot of aspects & it being improve means that it’s mostly also them putting a bit of themselves into it which makes it way worse too
In the movie he was. He was doing a character but since it was inprof there is always somehint of yourself in the character. But please keep in mind he was a teen and teens are rude sometimes. But I do not think that he was/is like that in real life! :)
@@anirudhsharma8912 that is because there were massive cheating allegations made against him which were fake. So his career would be ruined if he didn’t do anything about it. And every celebrity HAS done something problematic in their life.
So this guy RATTED OUT HIS PRODUCER!!! He let this skinny kid Toby bully him WITH MAC AND CHEESE!!! 😂 His inexperience RUINED IT FOR EVERYONE!!! Now TODAY he’s on weak social media platforms trying to paint Leo as another Diddy! HES NOT LOYAL and he’s crying about it!!!
This sounds like someone who feels upset they didn’t get there big Hollywood moment and is just over exaggerating or just straight up lying about people because the actors who were all doing Hollywood films at the time may not have all wanted it to be released because of quality everything I’ve seen about the movie it’s not entertaining it’s just watching people act like 20 year olds which could be interesting if they actually had a plot that didn’t feel so lose
Tobey is and has always been Leo's lap dog, I mean I remember watching Spider man thinking, this is not the peter parker from the comics at all, this is a whimp and a dork...but turns out, he was just being himself and that is why he hated/loved leo because he knew and saw that Leo was the real deal. He is a hater and a bad actor too, I just didn't know he was also a hateful cry baby.
NEVER heard of this film
& the dispute
until now, in 2024
I just watched the film on UA-cam last night - reminded me how the Blair Witch project took off- pretty genius/trendy to improvise a film at the time, I tried to use that idea as a Theatre Major and my professor hated it in 2001…😅
@@amcdiva The Blair Witch was not improv at all and it didn't get started that way either.
Same
Same
It was never distributed. Did u not listen to this vid??
Where it is apparent that DeCaprio seems to forget the camera is there, Toby seems to always come across as though he is distinctly aware that he is on camera. DeCaprio is obviously more comfortable, which is why i think he is the better actor. because he comes across as genuine where Maguire's performance comes across like... well, a performance.
Tobey Maguire missed the part where that's his problem
@@jg11x11 yeah
@@pal9876ok
😂
he'll make you cry
Maguire is always the bridesmaid but never the bride.
@@cakelady8523 HILARIOUS!!!
Never the burro
Honestly, it's way more interesting to read the comments than to watch the doc itself.
I agree.
And I am
Lol 🤷🏻😉😆😆
Literally me rn 😂
Do you have an attention span of a goldfish
I completely disagree. Learning about this is extremely entertaining.
Toby Mguire took advantage of the fact that Leo was unsure of the film from the start.He twisted people’s words and tried to sabotage the film and its producers.He told Leo that they were trying to pin the press against him and obviously, he’s not gonna want that.ESPECIALLY not at that time.Titanic was either about to come out or had just come out and if the press was quote on quote “pinned against him” it could have potentially ruined his career.Toby knew how he would react to that and used it against him.
This is it in nutshell.
Dale Wheatley Wait I'm honestly very confused. Is Leo the bad guy or Toby?
@@rahma02218 I don't think there are bad guys. It's not that linear. Everything was done from a place of immaturity, ambition and naivety from everyone.
@@rahma02218 I don’t think toby is a bad guy in the true meaning of the word but he was pretty much the one who started all this
@@DaleWheatleywrites but "If Tobey had just approached you like a friend and said 'hey, this is going to be bad for me can we shelve it?'" When you said no, in my opinion you are a bit of a hypocrite. You can't have your cake and eat it too. That was your friend. If he came up to you as a FRIEND and pleaded with you, then I'd hope you'd have respect and common sense to at least hold off. Because now it's apparent to me that you feel betrayed by Tobey and Leo, but you didn't have respect for them as it was.
This film is a con. It was a student film. Dicaprio did the director a favour by giving him a weekend so that he would not have to pay any actors. It was a favour. It was never intended to be a commercial movie. After Titanic came out the student, who had dropped out, decided to cash in by having the student film padded out with non DiCaprio footage and released it as a commercial movie. The advertising this low life uses is to claim that the movie is so controversial that DiCaprio wants it banned. Bullshit. Nobody cares if you see it. What DiCaprio was concerned about was the low quality of this feeble film, and that audiences would feel conned. Of course, the film itself has nothing contraversial or even remotely interesting going on. Of course DiCaprio is great in it. You just can't bury good talent. Even in a turd of a film like this.
@@davidniggemeyer1692 In retrospect do you think you tried to hard and could have avoided being black listed by letting it go and working on a different movie or something i am an amateur filmmaker this doc made me scared to work in movies all this seemed uncalled for still don't see what the big fat deal is
@@davidniggemeyer1692 well i don't get paid for my short films and i work a day job and I'm not licensed in any department so i guess professional would be some one who the profession is not a passion but a job they can afford to leave there day job i cant do any of that not sure if i ever will so i am an armature answer your question
dornravlin I Believe a Professional is Anyone That Gets Paid For Work.
@@GDSprodify that's an extremely low bar for professinalism. All humans work
@@scottmckeever5432it’s the definition of professional tho
I want the full 30 hours of footage...It’s not like there will ever be a sequel...I liked the first one....someone email me the 30 hours.
Are you famous or something? How do we know how to get an email to you? And why should we be required to do your bidding?
@@aggrocd1985bro shhh that’s THEEE lostmind173.
Okay as much as this 'film' exposes the assholery of the cast I also agree that they should NOT have advertised it as a short and then decided to profit off of the stars' names and make a feature film. Also this Dale guy is obviously living in his past failures because clearly he wasn't able to make a successful career in filmmaking and he should have moved on a long time ago.
He was blacklisted by major Hollywood actors.. don't think he's a Spielberg necessarily, but this man also infested his own time into this and endured significant financial damages.. and Tobey Maguire selfishly wanted to tank the entire film because of his own insecurities and started drama among his friends like a middle school girl..
Dude didn’t even write the movie lol it was ad libbed hahaha
@@kevinhunt1202
I think it was done like CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM in the sense that there’s a written story and plot but the actors improvised the dialogue, but it was definitely a written story
He’s still completely delusional too. “This movie is raw, crazy, uncomfortable…” as if it’s some great European style film.
It’s just a bad film. The fact he still hasn’t realized this at his age is somewhat disturbing.
The Grudge (original)
tobey maguire really put some dirt in their eyes huh?
P. Diddy approves of this video. By the way, both Leo and Toby have passed the egg test.
Indeed. Well said "passed the egg test" P. Diddy approved. Excellent choice of words.
Cold 😮
What's the egg test
The Pinkie test
Pizza and chicken......
These men sound like those guys who can't move on from high school
The Al Bundy effect
@@LazyElkman"Four touchdowns in a single game!" Lol...
Except they have an actual cool story
😂😂😂😂
"Men"...that dude doing most of the talking is one of the weakest people I have ever seen.
I’m highly confused about this whole film. What was the point of it being made, it’s a film of them in a restaurant for over an hour improvising, people thought Leo was a dick after this because they thought that’s the way he actually acted in real life, sounds like to me the director just needed a top notch actor in his shitty film to make it better. What was his intentions anyway, this film is pointless, the conversations in it just switch from one topic to another, talks about sex then all of a sudden suicide. There’s something about the director that seem so off..almost like he wanted to expose these amazing actors.
Don's Plum is an art-house/avant garde film in the sub-genre of slice-of-life. It's film that shows the struggles of growing up - it deals with the issues of the time - issues around sexuality, drugs, abuse, suicide, depression, peer pressure - I mean we took on a lot. I think our most ambitious goal was to try and relate to many generations and I think we achieved that. It's not for everyone and I completely understand that, but those who get it, love it.
@@DaleWheatleywrites yo can you send me the movie of leo playing connect four you talked about in the doc,,,,asking for a friend. also i'm sorry tobey maguire ruined your bag.
I actually really like it. But I can definitely see why some people would find it boring and pointless. It’s just a slice of life film about young, rich, arrogant teens.
@@DaleWheatleywrites I actually liked the film. A few cringey scenes (though probably intentional), but I didn't think it was as bad as these people were making it out to be.. feel like Tobey got way too controlling, into his own head about his performance, and went on a power trip..
@yespls4184 most people like Don's Plum. It's a great indie film, but it's art and so it effects people differently. I'm proud of the film.
All this commotion and chaos was for nothing because the movie can easily be seen now right here on freaking UA-cam! What was the point?
Different times
Wasn’t UA-cam back then …
DiCaprio and Maguire are established actors now. They weren't back then. That's the point.
It gave the washed up old guys something to talk about
@@Ratclawz well now P Diddy might have some stuff to say about our buddy Leo. 😉
The intriguing behind the scenes story of DON'S PLUM would be a highly interesting subject matter for a STAGE PLAY if a movie script regarding this same topic is deemed controversial.
These dudes were just trying to cash in on they’re friends new found stardom and got mad when they’re “friends” didn’t like the film and thought it could hurt they’re younger careers.
Ding ding ding! Tried to exploit that sweet Titanic Leomania fame and cash in and Leo and Tobey said NOPE! Can't blame them.
And you know this is how it happened without a shadow of doubt because, obviously, you were there. 🙄
@rebeccahopkins9522 it's literally in the film. Listen to their words when they speak 🥴
But Leo loved it. Did you even watch the Doc? Toby killed it out of jealousy that Leo is simply better
And people never lie. Sure. Wish I could live in your delusional world. Sounds like a pleasant place 😂
Thing is, Tobey CAN act. He has delivered some great performances in his time and as much of a douche as he apparently is- I have to say, he was right to block this movie from coming out as his performance was bad and it could have damaged his career. Which hadn't even begun yet tbf
The thing is that's it's not all about Tobey.. maybe some of the other lesser-known actors would have liked it to be released because they actually liked their performances? I think he was pretty selfish trying to block it just because he didn't like it. If it was allowed to be released, people would've possibly forgotten about it in a couple of years..
@@yespls6260 Why would he mess his whole career up just to be nice to the other actors?
He could’ve reshot his scenes duhhhhhhhhhhh
Then he shouldn't have acted in it. He's a crybaby.
Toby went Spiderman 3 on the boys
Did they eat Toby's dinner? Left us on a cliff hanger.
😂👏🏼
😂😂😂💀💀💀
Not too bright are you lol... imagine reading three pages of the book and then saying I wish there was more to this book. You've got to read further to get further. Watch episode 3 Genius
How did Leo have so much power that young in his career ? It makes no sense to me
that question fits more with tobey, he barely had any recognized movie as the doc says but could and has the skills to took off the movie only by simple friends contacts
Oscar nominated, high profile projects lined up, a little status can be everything in hollywood.
He was compromised I would surmise.
@@XxMasterxX-1-atk-1-defwell they said pleasantville dropped during the editing of the film, so tobey was taking off.
@@Shawn-Leider yes, could be that too
Well, the 2 reasons this movie never came out and people's careers got destroyed, was because Leo outshined Tobey, and everyone in Hollywood would know about his "preferences". Tobey got Spiderman and became a mega star, end of story.
what are Di Caprio's preferences?
@@ManuMiAS well, it Was Tobey who wanted it destroyed...and the reason was he said he liked putting a pinky up his own rear while playing with himself.
for ( Me) I really wish the guy would stop crying and being in awe at the same time! Its unnerving and unessary and we are too grown for it!
😂👏💯
LOL
For real. Like stop making me side with Leonardo and Toby…. 🤦🏽♀️
You're right. It was weird. My bad.
@@jenniferh5667 it’s desperation, awe, exasperation, envy, sadness, and fear all rolled up.
NY post is straight up trash lol this whole doc reeks of desperation to make something out of nothing
Typical New York Post.
Man, I'm just fighting for my work and for right to my work - regardless of anyone's opinion. I deserve the same rights as everyone else. I'm tryingf to save my film and in some respects, my life. I don't view my work as nothing - it means the world to me. Perhaps if you accomplish something as intense as a feature film you'd be more understanding. Stay safe.
No no the doc is quite well made and interesting. Now the movie on the other hand, that definitely was a desperate attempt to make something out of nothing.
The fact that there is a storm brewing in the background as he tells this story adds to the poetic effect of this video lol. Honestly, Tobey was doing everything that he could to get the film canned due to what his agent told him about his career being ruined by getting compared to Leo. The bit he gave him about the tabloids gave him the fuel he needed to go even more crazy.
Why’d y’all choose to play that salsa background music during the dramatic bits?
These guys sound like such losers lol how is it your movie if the whole thing is the actors improving a dinner conversation. The guy’s description of Toby losing it sounds like satire
These two old dudes are SO delusional and narcissistic. It’s both funny and super annoying to watch.
Dale Wheatley is a terrible actor. The phony crying is laughable.
Wow! A corrupt project from the start with such deception. I feel sorry for none of it.
In the end it’s about friendship but only AFTER he threw TM under the bus a dozen times??? Dude... something doesn’t jive and I think it’s you.
Man, they should have just cut a short film from this (like the original plan) and got that short into Sundance, etc. Then make a feature film with a different story next time around lol. Would have saved a lot of drama, maybe their careers.
really didn't understand why mcguire and dicaprio wanted to remove this movie. This documentary makes no sense to me
Why is this so interesting? 😂
🤣🤣
theres something suss about this dude
Nah, I'm chill af.
@@DaleWheatleywrites why are u pretending to be different people 😭😭
@@jasmynnnnxo ? I have no idea what you mean.
a hung of fame maybe 🙄
You think he's suss now that the Diddy stuff has come out and Diddy said Leo was his number 1 party guest? Birds of a feather. And Tobey is Leo's bff. They're all terrible people. I believe Dale.
It's simultaneously hilarious, depressing and fascinating how this guy can't move on. He has literally allowed his life to be defined by an unlucky turn back in the mid 1990s.
The movie was terrible. Just sexist garbage spewed out over an entire project with the haha you should be laughing even though nothing they say is funny. No wonder they didn't want this out.
Well the doc is quite well made and interesting. Now the movie on the other hand, that definitely was a desperate self-absorbed attempt to make something out of nothing.
Agreed
My problem is they did not make another movie after this and keeps complaining about this one.
It's actually a decent film, but I can see it being a short
and ppl say girls a re too much drama.... onestly idk what their all mad about just don't make a film of it and move on with your live jeezz
Seriously I’m so disturbed by this, I really don’t need this and neither does the world
Everything ive ever heard about toby McGuire has been bad
Yep!
Bro, if you have "deep rooted" friendships with all these people and every single one of them have the same issue with you, read the room. You're the problem.
I don't know who you're talking about, but if it's me I didn't have any problems with any of my friends until Tobey did what he did. In fact it was the opposite.
@@DaleWheatleywritesso Tobey practically and technically ruined mostly of the connections of friendship that some of the cast had including you
I'm so confused man
I don't know whose side to lean onto nor what is my own opinion
Give me your opinions this doc didn't make things very clear
I don't get it either. I was way into independent films in the 90s. I hated big Hollywood movies with their predictable beginning, middle, and endings that were all the same. This film would have been right up my alley, and it would not have made me think any less of Leonardo or Toby. In fact, it would have made me like them more for being willing to do a low budget, independent film.
Dale Wheatley creeps me out.
For sure. The fact that he’s replying to comments from five years ago tells me this is his life’s work.
That transition at 15:52 had me rolling 😂😂😂
😂 Yeah brah. Me too 😂
Donsplum look so real
Why would people want to watch brats act like the brats that they really are.
Why have more people not seen this? Crazy.
Has anyone seen Molly’s game??? The character Michael Cera plays in that movie is actually Toby
how do you know?
@@autumn8699 it is a well known story
Molly organized poker games for Hollywood people and Tobey is phenomenal poker player
"The Cobra Lounge" = "The Viper Room"
He's evil. A sociopath.
Dude this is so bad you can clearly see he's lying and has a disdain for Toby Maguire for some reason 😂😂. And he makes himself come of as a saint throughout the documentary 💀
Elmo Baj fr
Exactly! This man is super suspicious to me.
He's replying to most comments against it like a desperate nerd
@@isaiahminott nerd. lol.
You still think this now that Diddy was arrested? Leo was his favorite party guest. To his fukt up freak offs.
Imagine a movie about kids stealing a professors corpse to say goodbye😂 no wonder they said you’ll never work in Hollywood again!
That sounds more interesting than Don’s Plum
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Lol this guy is so full of it. What a clown
Why is this all footage of the film makers. Zero first hand footage of the actors that this is supposedly about.
being from their age group it was hard to understand what the huge deal was over Leo or tobey at the time in the mid 90s. I didn't know anyone who didn't feel the same way. look backs like these type of vids explain alot, Hollywood is high school with agents, contracts and press makers.
Y'all trying ruining Leo and Toby's friendship but no success 💁
In English please.
aliance
Knowing that it was improvised makes all the actors just look disgusting. I can't even watch anymore
Funny how they said toby& leo ban dom plum being seen in america & Canada. But it free on youtube..🤦🤷
Yeah but there huge stars now, at that Tobey Was a nobody that could’ve hurt his career and maybe he doesn’t get Spider-Man, Fear and Loathing, pleasantville, the cider house rules, seabiscuit!!
@@teresawright4528 yeah i know, but idk what the point of blocking it 🤷
Apparently it’s been taken down before, so perhaps one day it won’t be on UA-cam anymore. Don’t know if DiCaprio or Maguire know about it being on UA-cam right now. If not, that may be the only reason it’s available to view right now.
Dale released it for free bc no point hiding it anymore
Yeah, 20 years later
I hate how they are making Leo and Tobey out to be the bad guys because they really aren't!!
Oh cause you actually know them? Step into reality...
@@kys125 Well how about you? Do you know them? well then step into reality
@@firefistdonuts3286 No but Im not making any wild claims as if I do know them...Thanks for that useless comment though.
@@kys125 well you kind of seem to be saying that they are bad guys . So if that wasn't your intention then i apolagize
Except they aren't, they show the goodness of heart of Leo, they are honest about how he was being immature, but you can tell the honesty, Tobey Maguire is the bad guy here, he ruined the group's friendship
Go get 'em Tiger
the fact that this only has 324 likes is shocking, this is so interesting!!
these guys deserves the lawsuit , in fact they should be counting their stars they did not get jail time , exploiting talent
This dude talks about this... like he's proud of it? Wow.
I’m here before this shit blows up...this story is incredibly interesting
I just published a pretty crazy book which I wrote because Leo called me a liar at the end of the doc...
As a Canadian, I’ll take, “Canadian tree hugger” as a compliment.
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Hey, we all make mistakes when we're young, and this was certainly one. Maguire (who we all now know, for the record, is/was not a nice guy, period, to put it mildly): "I WANT DON'S PLUM TO BURN!!! NOW GIVE ME THE GASOLINE!!" Wheatley: "Okay, here you go....Wait, no, please, dont!!!" What did he think would happen?
Everyone involved just seems awful
It sounds like Tobey was trying to get the best excuse to call the project off, and he had what he had come for. It was so innocent of the dude to tell him that line. Noot his fault, he would have made up something or.find other excuse it seems to me.
Toby and Leo were never forced into doing the film so they didn’t get duped into doing it
Leonardo DiCaprio And Tobey Maguire Are A••Holes, And This Movie Proves It, But For Some Reason People Love These 2 Actors.
How does it prove it, if they clearly stated that, the characters are completely fake?
@@mauerz3195 They Are Actors, They Can Say Anything And People Believe It. I’m The King Of England.
@loveutilltheendoftimes9132 Why Do You Think Leonardo DiCaprio And Tobey Maguire Got All Mad. It Was When Leo Was Gonna Do Titanic, And Tobey Was Gonna Do Pleasantville, And Spider-Man.
@@RWAC685Exactly, they have fame behind their name so they can say about anything and get away with it unlike a person who isn’t famous
15:25 i literally laughed out loud sry not sry
This is all insane. Like actually insane.
Jerry says No no no bye bye
I thought Toby shined brightest in this movie. I don’t know if it was intentional, but he had kind of a weird serial killer vibe. He was interesting and funny to watch. Idk if he ever played that type of character in later films, but that type of role suits him.
No. That's his actual hateful evil personality shining through. He's a terrible person. Molly's Game he is player X. He's a sociopath.
All this Diddy stuff going on. Leo and Tobey was involved.
@@owenlyons76
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That's just the real Tobey.
This ‘movie’ looks ridiculous and overly nasty.
I agree, it’s quite revolting in a lot of aspects & it being improve means that it’s mostly also them putting a bit of themselves into it which makes it way worse too
This is not how normal ppl act. Recreation on how they were handled yea maybe
The math ain't mathing. He's definitely not telling us the whole story.
Sounds to me like you should have just simply cut the part tobey was embarrassed about
So you abuse macaroni noodles?
No need to treat macaroni and cheese this way! Not even going to mention the tofu sausages.😂
I hope that Leo was just pretending to be rude and he's not like that in real life
In the movie he was. He was doing a character but since it was inprof there is always somehint of yourself in the character. But please keep in mind he was a teen and teens are rude sometimes. But I do not think that he was/is like that in real life! :)
it was a movie ofc hes acting.
its a movie, his character had to be really rude
hypocrite... he is real bully in real life too.. he destroyed carriers
@@anirudhsharma8912 that is because there were massive cheating allegations made against him which were fake. So his career would be ruined if he didn’t do anything about it. And every celebrity HAS done something problematic in their life.
Peter ?
I bet the main dude was laughing so hard at spider man 3, lol
Tobey pulled out the bluff, and yall fell for it
Yeah bro, I got played. I was the fool - no doubt. When my book comes out we'll see who the ultimate fool is though.
@@DaleWheatleywrites gonna cry?
@@vviolin343 I have other plans.
@@DaleWheatleywrites just kidding man please dont be mad with me
I have never seen Leo give a interview before, let alone this. Why is he already the "Wolf on Wallstreet"? This needs much more research.
I guess Tobey had a better poker face.
Don’s Plumb is here on UA-cam. It’s toxic.
Why are Penn & Teller in this documentary?
Tawd beckman is the only voice of reason throughout this whole debacle
The comments here are better than the writing of Don's shortness
This makes so much sense after watching Molly's Game
What happened to basement office?
It's back! What a great show
So this guy RATTED OUT HIS PRODUCER!!!
He let this skinny kid Toby bully him WITH MAC AND CHEESE!!! 😂
His inexperience RUINED IT FOR EVERYONE!!!
Now TODAY he’s on weak social media platforms trying to paint Leo as another Diddy!
HES NOT LOYAL and he’s crying about it!!!
Gotta love Tobey
Now I’ve got to check it out . If it’s as bad as I think , should be fun .
This sounds like someone who feels upset they didn’t get there big Hollywood moment and is just over exaggerating or just straight up lying about people because the actors who were all doing Hollywood films at the time may not have all wanted it to be released because of quality everything I’ve seen about the movie it’s not entertaining it’s just watching people act like 20 year olds which could be interesting if they actually had a plot that didn’t feel so lose
Why didn’t Tobey comb his hair?
22:24 LOL
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This is just what demons do.
Unfortunately so.
Tobey is and has always been Leo's lap dog, I mean I remember watching Spider man thinking, this is not the peter parker from the comics at all, this is a whimp and a dork...but turns out, he was just being himself and that is why he hated/loved leo because he knew and saw that Leo was the real deal. He is a hater and a bad actor too, I just didn't know he was also a hateful cry baby.
Sounds like Tobey was super insecure and paranoid and went to war with his friends so he could “beat Leo.” How sad. It’s clear what happened here.