Hi Brody Cave, is it okay if i ask some questions about dairy farming, ive been milker myself for about 9yrs! But i really wanted to ask some questions. Hope you are willing to hear me out and answering my questions thank you! My name is arturo btw
Yeah, I cried for this one, and it's not the first time. As a teen, I was absolutely certain I would become a dairy farmer in this area of NY state. By the second oil embargo of the 70s, farms were starting to go due to increased fuel and fertilizer costs. And just like they said here, milk brought $14 a hundredweight back then.....about the same as now. I saw my future dying before my eyes, before I even got fully going. That's very hard to take. I have to think in part that growing up, some of us became invested in the belief that this way of life was good for us. It built our skills, it fed us healthily, and it was easy to grasp from our picture books and social training, that it was healthy and worthwhile, it was a way we could help others, by feeding them, while we ourselves could live and work in nature, yes, working hard, and taking care of the land. It was an honorable thing to do, to be a farmer. It brought dignity to the human experience, to my human experience. Now the honor of most professions seems gone or going quickly. The honor was sold out, for better pricing, or higher profits, or to make room for unbridled 'progress' and 'to the death' innovation. People driven madly by money were able to take control, over and above a sense of social good we used to share as a nation. A corporate structure emerged, devoid of human values. Profit for profit's sake, 'self first', less thought for the impact on others of one's actions. So here we are. Mega corporations and self-focused wealth are taking everything they can, the mind of man has changed. The 'one' rules over the many, and selfishly so. We can change it if we see the value in ourselves and in our neighbors. If we value our existence, not always strive to be less, do for less, and give less. The problems seem huge, and the answers are small, but we can change things if we try, but it won't be easy at all. It takes a different frame of mind than we have now as a society. I don't have "the" answer, but I can sometimes feel solutions to parts of the puzzle. When we each bring the solutions we can feel, changes can occur very broadly, and with depth. As the solution starts with each of us, it honors a de-centralized way of living. That's a huge clue. Less corporate control, more consideration for how my actions effect my fellow beings. Go inside yourself, find and study your 'best nature', bring that forward in your life against the odds and forces that would deter you. It's the best that I can do right now. It's an investment for the future.
@@edwardwhite221 You don't have a clue!! Most farm subsidies go to the corporate farms, not to small farms. That is what unbridled capitalism and a lopsided tax structure creates and the reason large farms keep getting larger and centralized. That only started in the last 2 decades and a lot more in the last 3 1/2 years. A century ago there were no farm subsidies. Farms too large to fail, created by a conservative system of capitalism and lobbyists that control the government through taxing the middle class and the poor at a higher percentage of their earned income and subsidizing the rich through lower tax rates, much larger deductions and allowing people who don't even farm to be getting money (meant for the those actually working their own farms) from the Covid-19 bailout. It's the "System of Things" and the current administration that is the monster. And remember the processors in between who disproportionately raise the prices we pay for the final product. We need many more smaller farms and not just a few huge conglomerates for they end up owning our government just because they are just that, too large to fail. Thus they get most taxpayer bailout funds even when they don't need it and even when some don't even live and work on a farm. You mention "free" milk or corn. Isn't that what Bernie Sanders was trying to do all along with healthcare? And now you complain when you don't get free milk or corn, and healthcare for that matter and get double whammied by conservatives (tax breaks for the rich along with unneeded bailouts)....well be careful of what you wish for because you are paying for it dearly and not getting anything in return.
This is heartbreaking. Farming is probably one of the most honorable and noble professions. In my state I see farms sold and turned into housing developments all the time. It’s so sad.
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Technology has proven to be agriculture's downfall allowing a few to get beyond huge while crushing family size operations. Do people really want our food supply controlled by a few entities?
This documentary about the state of the struggling American dairy farm is wholesomely sad. Dairy and crop farmers are the weavers of the fabric that binds this country together. This is very much an eye opening presentation.
I live in upstate NY and I appreciate all the hard work and devotion of all the farmers in my state ! I really hope that our government pulls their head out of their ass and see the big picture here ! Thankyou all for your hard work and dedication greatly appreciated 👍
A needed reality check. This is too sad. I live in upstate NY and I buy raw milk direct from local farms. Few are even doing it but it's most lucrative for the farm, and best for our health. Direct to consumer(on-farm sales) are most lucrative for farmers.
You are correct! I think farmers need to focus on direct to consumer sales where they have price control. The government milk market system gives farmers no control over prices
I am from western ny and the small farms here are pretty much a thing of the past. Within a 5 mile radius of my house there were 15 small dairy farms and now there are 3. It hurts the whole community feed mills and hardware stores are closing right behind them.
Yup, but people are too brainwashed in this country by “free market” politics. They would never go for state run quota systems. But they don’t realize our current system is killing rural America and making our food supply chain very vulnerable.
These folks are my friends & neighbors. The best people on the planet. As the older farmers pass the farms disappear because the young one's don't have the resources to go forward. This is both a shame and a threat to to everyone of us. 😥
Alls dairy farmers heard for years that kept them going was ( its going to change the prices will go up) but they never did. Just recently milk hit 19.00 a hundred here in pa. We hired an old dairy farmer that just sold his heard and it is sad to see. Something really does have to change and its not build up so big that you no longer take part in actually caring for the animals.
Heartbreaking story. Thanks for reporting on this. I hope the politicians in Albany (and other state capitols) and DC start to pay attention to this and take some action.
Cuomo is more interested in killing newborns so never expect that murderer to EVER support dairy farmers. What a worthless piece of cow shit, yet you New Yorkers elected him!!! Shame on you!
@Greg MacGowan , The politicians do take action ! They are in partnership with the mega farm ( or chemical companies such as Monsanto ) businesses and so pass laws to prevent the small farmers from competing with the mega farm businesses. Then when the politician or senior administrator retires they become VP's of one of the big businesses. And the general public continues to vote for the Democrats that are cutting their throats. Wondering why everything is so bad and becoming worse.
Sad but very true we sold our cows back in the late 80's and now we have no farm at all taxes kept going up price of f grain wasn't worth growing because of cost of fuel and insurance farmers have it tough I miss farming I pray farmers get some kind of relief soon
This just heartbreaking it really is as farmer I know fake smile there putting on everyday feeling of failure an let down to your dad or grand parents who started the farm and emotions that come with it. It just sad and heartbreaking
This might sound like a crazy idea, but why don't they subsidize their income by using one of the their barns as a stable for horses? My horse is stabled in a previous dairy barn in Newton, NJ. I pay $325 a month, plus my vet bills and farrier. They grow the hay on their 400 acres, there are about 36 horses stabled there. They also have 5 head of cattle they butcher and sell from their store along with turkeys that they harvest on the farm and make their own sausages. They sell the sausages for $8.00 for 8 oz., they also have wine and cheese sales once a year and hundreds of people come for the one day event. These dairy farmers need to expand their forms of income, just milk won't cut it with so many people saying they are allergic to milk and drinking almond milk and such. I pay $3.89 a gallon for 2 % milk at Shop Rite and about $3.29 at Costco or Sam's Club, I don't think that's chump change, so the problem is with the way the government sets the price. Maybe the dairy farmers need to lobby for a change in the pricing. I truly hope they find a way to hang on, they are crucial for the health of our economy and people. If you import foods from other countries, you are then subject to the medicines and toxic chemicals they use which most likely are banned in the USA. So if my math is correct, my barn earns $11,700 on 36 horses per month. They have to supply grain which they buy in bulk, electric, water, stall mats so they don't have to use tons of bedding and the hay they grow on their 400 acres. I just don't understand why farms don't diversify to save themselves. Changing over a barn to a stall would be minimal investment if they already have the barn. Just a suggestion if they want to remain on their farms. My friend who has a 9 acre farm in Lake Ariel, Pa bought 12 Alpacas and she sells the fiber once a year which pays the taxes on the farm, her home on a another property and an investment property on 10 acres. I just don't understand why they don't think outside the box and try to help themselves. Down size some of the herd to make room for more profitable livestock so they can afford to run their dairy until things change for the better. If they don't change, at least they have a safety net. Good luck, I want our dairy farmers to succeed!
The problem with boarding is the farmer then has to take time from his animals to turn yours out or hire somebody to do it and to clean up the stalls. They can no longer continue milking unless they hire people and most can not afford it.
I pray that things get better for you Soon I also live in Pennsylvania I know what you mean we got out of the dairy back when they had the herd buyout in the 80's and it was hard back then I couldn't even understand your struggles now I'll pray for you 🙏
I'm from Upstate NY but live in the south for years. I grew up on a dairy farm outside of Cooperstown. I lived in Florida for 21 years before I ever went back and it made me sad ...most of the dairy farms around where shut right down. Some were beautiful farms. SAD.
Things never change in the dairy industry. The problem is the co-ops and when it comes down to it the farmers. Every meeting I went to when I was younger was farmers begging for government involvement. The problem is the farms produce with no regard for demand. The farmers should own shares of the proccesing so they have skin in the game instead of making more milk all the time. Basics of capitalism and supply and demand. The guy selling flavored milk has it figured out, have a market and then produce accordingly.
Agree they need to control the processing like here in NZ. Also they need to analyse their production systems and not just assume they have the best way. Sometimes low payouts force needed change
When the government gets involved its no longer a system of supply and demand and everybody suffers. The next big thing the governments involved in that will fail....... student loans.
You realize in the last 15 years 75% of Wisconsin's dairy farms under 50 cows have gone out of business during that same time period their Their production has gone up by 50%! The problem here is there's too damn much milk being made by these farmers and they're killing themselves doing it!
@@deannelson9565 your correct sir and the better cows an land get bought up by bigger farms while marginal cows and land get set aside just buisness.Im sure those farmers found jobs and after thinking about it realized it was for the best
I have beef cattle and have work try to produce hay above what my cows need and market it to just have the cows. On top of that the places that I market my cattle have been doing things that I cannot prove but know they are doing that takes money away from me. I work to hard to get those animals to market to be shorted on my check and show prices less than what the cattle market reported for the sale they went through. I am not the only farmer in the area that is experiencing this trend. My heart goes out to the dairy and all farmers trying to make it.
The very first thing that I saw when I turned this on was a $150,000.00 tractor. In addition , the modern dairy farmer is producing a commodity product. Thus he has only ONE market. One customer! My former brother-in-law did the very same thing during the 1970's . He wanted to be a farmer. He could not afford to buy decent farm land in Utah ( they have much very alkaline soil ) so he leased 250 acres. A "small farmer " . And he grew sugar beets for his commodity crop. ( "it's what everybody else is growing " ) And the very first thing that he did was purchase a $40,000.00 tractor. That was the top price in those days. Come harvest time and the price of sugar beets dropped. Plus the processor automatically discounted 30 % of the weight of his crop. The consumer on the street has no use at all for sugar beets. So my brother -in-law lost his shirt. And maybe his underwear also . Plus , he could not make his lease payments ( thus he lost the farm house he was living in ) nor could he make his tractor payments. ( so the bank took it ) The bank sold the tractor at auction for $5,000.00 so he still owed almost $35,000.00. ( by the way , it was the bank that bought the tractor. ) Later had it for sale for $30,000.00 . A bargain price for a nearly new tractor. I have seen where Amish have bought failed farms in northern N.Y. state and have made a go of them. Of course horse shoes don't cost nearly as much as tractor tires. And horses do not drink gasoline either .
@@tctarheelfarmin358 , Some tractors use gasoline and some use diesel . Both are fuels that a farmer must pay for to operate the very costly tractor. So , what's your point ?
It is a very sad story indeed, the same story that is unfolding in upstate New York, the same story that's unfolding ABSOLUTELY EVERYWHERE IN THE WESTERN WORLD - EVERYWHERE. You have to start asking yourself, why are the milk prices so low? Why is it that water costs more than milk in the supermarket? Why is it that the supermarkets have MONOPOLIZED the majority of the milk sales? Why is it that the supermarkets drive the prices down, down, down? just like the Coles ads in Australia, where they are talking about the price of goods, not the price they pay for milk. Why has the price of the milk that is bought off the farmers remained the same since the 70's, or since the 80's? And why has the the farmers bills, such as feed, fertilizer, fuels, vets, electricity etc. kept going up, up & up --------------- --------------> the answer to all those questions is - ZIONISM It's very easy to see that they AB4OLUTELY CRAVE THAT LAND, land that has been in the hands of farming families in rural ares for generations, for centuries in some cases, and they crave that land specifically because the land "selected" in places like upstate NY, and everywhere in the Western World, particularly in the newer colonies outside Europe such as the USA, Canada, South America, Australia, New Zealand, the lands that where "selected" for DAIRY FARMING was some of the best farming land available, with plenty of rainfall, and plenty of green pastures for grazing on, often they where located in rich fertile valleys, protected from harsh winds, storms, fires, or run-offs from bad farming practices, in other words, many of these dairy farms, are the best farming lands in the their respective countries, and the parasites are salivating, desperate to conjure a system whereby they can finally get their grubby hands on the deeds of those farms. They are TURNING THE SCREWS EACH AND EVERYDAY, making the business of producing dairy products. completely unsustainable for the dairy farmer, they just don't get the prices, nowhere near the prices they should be getting, the 8ankers installed a system in place, where the have all the leverage, all the power, and all the say, THEY SET THE PRICE, AND THAT'S ALL YOUR GETTING, as they have theorized that the farmers are by now struggling to such a point, they have no alternative than to sell the milk at whatever price the parasites have set for them, whilst at the very same time, THE FUNGUS, THE WORM, THE BLOODSUCKERS, leeching off the super hard work done by the dairy farmers, as they do the hard graft, getting up before the sun, at between 3-4 in the morning, later in the afternoon they milk again, it is a sacrifice that the Zionist Bankers have banked on will erode the spirit and will of the dairy farmers, and eventually with the bills adding up everyday, the debts out-stripping the gains, they will take bigger risks and further stretch the account, until such time they have to call it a day, fold the business, and not only sell the milk cows, but even in some cases sell the family farm, ending not only the actual farm, but an unbroken chain of generations of farming, sometimes 5 or 6, sometimes more than 10 generations. This is the STATED GOALS of the "8ankers" and of the Multinationals, THEY WANT THAT LAND. Therefor everyone that has a dairy farm, has to have this very crystal-clear view inside their head, that they must do everything possible to keep the farm in the hands of their family, and if for whatever reason a farm must be sold, it then is only ever sold to PEOPLE WITHIN THEIR OWN CO-OPERATIVES, sometimes even the CO-OP can by it between all the members, and then run it between them, also the farmers MUST PUT INTO PLACE A "FAMILY TRUST" whereby the farms can never be sold, or even "heavily leveraged against", and if a BAD EGG comes inside the sheds, he or she cannot "engineer" a situation where the farm can be sold to pay for whatever way the butterfly flies, if they marry into your family, they marry for love, not for ulterior motives, not for monetary interests. The farmers must be very wary in how much money they are borrowing, the 8anks will be throwing money at you, as like I said before, the fungus covets those parcels of land, they will offer you many, many money, as that is money that doesn't even exist, they just REFRACT WITH FRACTIONAL BORROWING AGAINST SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY. There is an especially fascinating story that I am keen to hear from the people themselves, the story of the ice creamery in North Eastern United States in the state of Vermont, the Ben & Jerry's ice cream factories, and just how they have treated the farmers out there, and if they have heavy-handed them, installing systems into place that hands all the say to the BJ'S management, and exactly HOW MANY OF THESE FAMILY FARMS HAVE CHANGED HANDS SINCE BJ'S BUNCH OF FJ'S bulldozed their way into the landscapes of those quiet, sleepy farming communities, what has happened to that scenario in the last 40 years since the parasitic organism called Zionism entered their lives? Are the same family dairy farms still operating, or have there been forced exchanges, or has the fungus installed their people into their lives and lounge rooms? One last comment that I want to say, the dairy farmers themselves are in some cases going to have to DIVERSIFY THEIR FARMING PRACTICES, in the case of the smaller farms, possibly have other "AVENUES OF INCOME" so maybe even having a lesser number of milking cows, and bringing in other types of cattle, that are sold for meat, also maybe rearing pigs, selling the "lechones" for BBQ's & restaurants, for the weekend fairs etc. the lechones are the baby pigs, but the bigger pigs can be "milk-reared" off the cows themselves, giving the meat a special texture, also other avenues of income like the B & B's (the farming experience) and "value-adding the milk products" such as cheese, yogurt, flavored milk, sweets, dulce de leche. I sincerely hope some of these ideas have a positive impact for the farmers. Good luck, and never give up.
We have a beef cow calf operation in up state ny, I appreciate the shoe guys attempt at boutique milk products; however seem he has more money to invest than most! If your paying for help buying and raising cows, hay and keeping machinery up your going to have to sell a billion little bottles of chocolate milk to make it. If your able to fund a hobby that’s great but most farmers are not in that league. I thank you for what your doing it is most noble and keeps farming alive! Don’t mean to seem sour about it, keep it up ! Just expressing my view of a most hard situation!
the answer was given right by one of the farmers. "there is an overproduction of milk" any industry with too much product should be balanced naturally, not by government handouts. farms will shutdown and production will align more with demand. i'm not saying there isn't something wrong with the industry and big ag, because there IS. farming should be smaller and local, and i'm seeing this trend starting all over the country, so i believe we'll see the balance return int he next 10 years maybe?
What US Dairy farmers need is similar to Canadian farmers is have dairy marketing boards to protect farmers from going in dept or bankrupt.the Canadian farmer is protected from dept or bankruptcy by the boards regulation to keep prices fair or better than fair to keep Canadian farmers in busness . Of course subsidies help too
No they need to cut production but they will never do it voluntarily so the only way to make it happen is for some of them to go out of business so that the herd sizes are reduced over time.
@@deannelson9565 During Reagan 10% of dairy cows were bought out by gov. Remember a farmer can increase his herd by 50% in one year! Manage the milk supply and not the cows.
@@sgtcrab1 and so you do what have the government buy all the extra milk and just throw it away! United States is a free market so these kind of farmers have only control over how much they can produce and not how many of them are producing therefore they will all keep producing at a rapid rate trying to stay afloat continuing the cycle until enough of them are gone to equal it out.
Canadian Dairy farmers, have a milk quota system. There are no subsidies per say. The way you said that it seems like the Gov is throwing money at them, which is not true. Although there are farmers loan boards ect, they usually charge more interest than a bank would. The marketing boards are paid by the farmers, for their work. They are only allowed to produce(sell) what their quota will allow them to, any over run is dumped I believe. This way there is never any more milk produced than there is quota. If there is 1 million gallons of milk being sold every day in any given area why would someone want to produce 2 million? Just to have it poured down the drain? This was the problem here in the late 70's, I believe. So this quota system was established to make sure the same thing did not happen here as what is taking place in the US now. When a dairy buys milk from the farmer, and ends up throwing 2/3's of it down the drain because it is not being bought by the consumer, who do you think will suffer because of it? The quota system is not without it's problems, but for the farmers, they can have a small farm, and live well off the income. Most of the smaller farms Quotas are being bought up buy major Corporations now, when the farmers decide to retire, instead of handing them down to family, because of the astronomical price of Quota. Which in turn, keeps smaller farms from increasing their quota, because of this cost as well. When people go to grocery stores to get milk, yes prices are high, but we do not have farmers hanging themselves in the barns because they see no other way out! Also the system itself is the reason the tariff on milk coming into Canada is high. But you also have to realize the State of Wisconsin produces more milk than all of Canada. Think about that for awhile.
How can it be that milk is at an all-time cheap price when I am paying more for milk than I have ever paid in my life?! I am paying $3.99 a gallon at my local grocery store. Does anyone but me remember when milk was $.99 a gallon? So, who is getting all the money I pay for milk that (apparently) dairy farmers are not getting for their milk? Do we have too many middlemen taking profits out of the middle? Someone should look into this. Something doesn't smell right about this.
Its a factor of a lot stuff! Milk is on the lowest right now (dairy product) consumed! What happened was that back in the day the milk companys were paying everyone the same for milk every famer! But couple years ago(i think) companys (im not so sure or know too much about this) but they started to pay different prices for milk, powder milk, cheese, and butter! So some dairys(a lot) are getting paid less than other dairys for their milk. All dairys have a contract with milk companys so when they started to pay less for milk they can or couldnt do much about it! Today like for an example, milk that goes straight for milk only are getting about 1dollar for gallon or even less! And so other dairys that have contracts with different milk companys are being payed more! Like milk that goes for cheese and butter, right now is about 2dollars for gallon! But yea its a lot of factors lots! One simple one like milk its not only made with cow milk nowadays, there tons of ways that milk is created from, go to the grocery store and see for yourself! Almonds etc. Etc...
this ex shoe guy is atleast giving these cows some comfort. i hope they get out on the land to graze. and by the way i would never ever want anyone to lose the family farm ever. i hope you all keep it and do something else. i wish i had a farm
There are no family dairy farms left in my area of MN. I couldn't even tell you where the nearest family dairy is. However there are 2 huge corporate dairies. One is a 9500 head & the other is 11,000 head. 50 million dollars to build each one they said. How do they make money when the family dairy farms can't? Corporate farms will be the death of family farms. It's a shame to see these poor families forced to quit with the dairy farming.
Sad times. It's the same story all over the world. The only farms that I know doing well now are those that have diversified. We have one here that now uses its milk to produce their own cheeses and with good marketing they have become very successful.
The government wants cheap food and as long as there are farmers that are able to produce it cheaply then it will continue. There has been a stay for small farms ,they went to rotational grazing and baleage so their able to hang on a little longer by cutting costs.The ones that are taking it on the chin now are the 200-400 cow farms,now they are to big to be small and too small to be big.Just like many of the farms that went out in the 70s and 80s.
The imminent danger in losing smaller dairy farms is in food security itself. It's like Kristen Jilliebrand said, in a disaster, much like the coronavirus we now have, food security is much safer when farms are local and spread out instead of a few huge farms far away from the consumer, that can not distribute the milk products in a pandemic. At that time the price paid in the grocery store skyrockets while the price at the farm plummets. It doesn't make sense. Subsidize the small farms so they can survive! It's a matter of local security.
Farming is farming. If you are doing well in one market, you can switch and your farm can adapt. Organic anything is big business these days. Switch over and move-on. Go with what works. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Years ago, I was an Ayrshire breeder and equally, a Dairyman. I form a real minority mindset from going away from holstein to Ayrshires. This region was formally an Ayrshire stronghold. Holsteins aren't the given. Sorry this is an issue. Holsteins aren't the answer.
What pisses me off is no one understands is if it wasn’t for a trucker that milk would not be able to get to the grocerey store think about it it doesn’t just magically appear ima. Shelf at some point it gets put on a Walmart truck or any truck and shipped to the d.c then put on a Walmart or any type of semi and shipped to the grocerey store so if u see a trucker thank them because there the reason u get ur milk from the grocerey store... I’m not saying a farmer is the whole reason but how do u think there milk gets to the grocerey store well because of a trucker takes time out of his/her life to do they’re job by driving an 18 wheeled semi
Oppose H.R. 5038, let your congress person know. I recently had two unique and interesting experiences that I'd like to share. "The first, I had the opportunity to tour a large (3000 head) dairy, the technology and overall operation was impressive. Our tour guide was questioned about the dairies workforce and stated that of their 40 employees all but three were immigrants. (No one asked and your speculation would be as accurate as mine to their legal status.) The second experience. I delivered a bull to a long time customer, whose family has operated a 100 head dairy for several generations. A couple years ago when I had dropped a bull off, he proudly introduced me to his son, daughter-in-law and their kids who had recently moved home and were planning to eventually take over the operation. As I visited with this man; a man of integrity and character, he told me that they were done, the son was looking for other employment and that he would sell the cows once he could find a buyer....they simply couldn't compete. I didn't know what to say....what could be said? So, I just stood there, next to this man. You know the type: hard working, strong, moral, deeply involved in his community, his church. I just stood there, while this man wept. It was from those two events that I draw my answer to your question, "who will do these jobs?" The answer: Americans. There are Americans who will work feed yards, hog operations, packing plants, etc. On this message board there are individuals that would/do proudly engage in this type and scope of work. The difference would be a shift from large scale, low wage employees producing commodity products back to smaller scale, family owned and operated ones. These large Agriculture endeavors have devoured American Agriculture solely because of their access to almost unlimited low wage immigrant laborers. If that supply were to cease, I'd expect a resurgence of opportunity for custom slaughter plants, back yard grow yards and small scale dairies. The American labor shortage is a myth. If you allow a man the dignity of ownership and the opportunity to make a profit.....he and his family will work." ~ Unknown
they will sell the 1000's of acres they bought with government grants and low interest loans and retire with millions. Never seen a farm for sale cheap in 30 years.
This is big government at its best! They need to let the market set the price, free market economics works. And it figures that it's coming out of Chicago. Same place obamacare was born.
@@HERBALNATUMAN1 over here the communities are forced to pay the taxes, grants and loan forgiveness of our local farmers. In return, well we get to pay full price ofr our goods like $4/lb for a pepper.
@@edwardwhite221 yeua their property is ruled agricultural. They have much more property than you, much more land, equipment, they typically employ several people, etc
@@losxmatitas6950 won't be enough herds over 3000 cows going broke can't pay for cows and land or even a lease on today's prices. If people who are on a family farm that had no debt one generation ago can't how are you?
it is so sad to see this happening in the USA the country all over the world is known to be the most powerful economy but in reality it is not . It is a shame on the government to leave the dairy farmers suffer meanwhile it is funding wars in many places throughout the planet . Best regards from Morocco to these dairy farmers and their famillies .
@@paulwainwright967 840 million people are staving in the world, but we as farmers are overproducing so prices are low. In UK wheat plantings are down 30% this winter and price will go up next year. Supply and demand. I don't know the answer.
@@normanpouch for a start with UK farmers have never produced 100% of our milk , the problem is it's imported there lies one problem . Then you all carry on at food miles so why do we need to import so much ? Answer is we don't we could do more here if given the chance . The supermarket's earn to much compared with the producer irrespective of what it is , then they pay most of the time on 90 days , when we go to the supermarket don't we have to pay at the till ? Next problem is farmers will not all pull in the same direction if they won't pay enough don't let them have it hard I know but sometimes these things have to be done , it would be in France . If you all did that you could keep prices up . Don't come back and tell me that it's against some eu law you think they don't do it or the supermarket's don't all corrupt so help yourselves.
@@normanpouch That is the problem , I am not a farmer my work is with tractor parts for the oldest to the newest , I am from a mixed farm of dairy , pigs and sheep. That would be unviable today . However if something isn't done my industry will go as well . There are no tractors manufactured here anymore , the company's moved out or were bought out and no government has done anything about it. Same thing with Thomas Cook , however the German's and the Danish government bailed there companies out totally against EU law but perfectly ok over there and here lies one problem one rule for one and one rule for another , just makes my blood boil .
Listen up and take this advice. You can make it. As a farmer you have to come to terms that the old way dose not do it anymore. Farming is a family ran business and you have to put all your heads to gather and think outside the box. You want to make money stop selling your milk 🥛 to the milk association. Take upon your self ,do the research. You can be successful by selling you own milk creating a product. When i tell farm this they look at me and think just more debt. Stop working for government. They set the price not you. When will you set your price? Take a look at a farm called mooville do the research they are just one of many farms i looked into to change the way I farm. I am debt free dont own the bank a dime. Take the middle man out of milk and reach out to your community. I get $ 5.00 a gallon make my own cheese ice cream and the list goes on stop with we can't make money. Their are many company's out there that will work with you solely. I dont have the answer to everything I took the time to change and do the research. If i can do it you can.
Maarten Kassies that’s very expensive to get into and it’s pretty well impossible to start a new farm with it, quota last time I knew was $36,400 per cow, you need Atleast 40 head to make it a viable choice so then your already paying $1.5 million for quota, although you can turn that 1.5 million back within few years if your barn is setup good and your equipment is grounded well, my neighbours have a 210 head dairy which they just expanded from 95 head and this last year they already payed off there quota but they also have a barn that is grounded extremely well and have great milk production, I’ve seen some 120 head dairy’s go out even with the quota system in place
@@timmyteabag69 I think nowadays farmers have to stop thinking about having things paid off but rather to be at a size where they can comfortably manage expenses
@Ryan Robichaud maybe do abit more research on this subject. I grew up with the quota system and it is a system that covers more of consumer concerns of today including environmental, factory farming, and animal welfare. In the quota system family farms can still make a living off 100 cows, compared to places with out quota where they have to milk 2000 for the same income
This whole thing is a load of crap. I really feel sorry for our farmers. The government should be helping them out. If the price of milk is the same as it was in the 70’s - something is wrong. Everything else goes up - so why not milk when we buy it. So if it cost $5 a gallon for milk and it helps the farmers - I would pay that. I’m totally frustrated after seeing this report- we need to take care of these farmers - there the backbone of this country!!!!!
I agree wholeheartedly if the government is doing something to artificially keep milk prices suppressed but if this is just market forces then tough luck.
The price of milk is so low is because these damn farmers are producing too damn much of it! You see when they can't make as much money due to the low prices the standard milk producers solution of that is to produce more milk to get their margins back in line but the problem is that makes this problem substantially worse! This is what happens when you have a market full of little independent contractors they all work for themselves and end up destroying each other in the process! What you are seeing here is a natural correction to a dramatic imbalance in the marketplace! If you could get them all together to slow down production that would raise overall prices but good luck doing it!
dean nelson what you’ll find is the best most efficient operators are doing just fine on current prices. Normally low prices should drive down production as farmers cut costs to remain solvent. That’s the effect it has here in Nz
@@Gumpmachine1 You might think that but you would be wrong. You can't cut production if you only make one thing there in lies there Doom. Any questions on this just watch 20:15 and you will find the Hart of the problem.
dean nelson you can cut production if the extra milk costs you more than it returns which quite often is the case. Increasing production at a loss is pointless but many farmers still do it on the mistaken assumption that more milk equals more money.
friends you need to diversify...farmers that depend on only one source of income are screwed. Raise pigs, start fattening calves, chickens, grow Corn, etc...farmers the world over are fucked by governments and need to be as independent as possible. France is in deep trouble also and they are finding nice solutions not to be dependent on other people to tell how much your procuct and labour is worth
@Evelyn Woodcock , You should see the 15 - 20 acre " dairy farms " in California with 400 - 500 cows on them. They milk 24 hours a day. They also boast that they have more dairy cows than Wisconsin. But what they don't tell you is that none of those cows has ever seen a blade of green grass.
I will answer the sentiments of William Sickner. My contention is that exports of dairy products lead to massive crashes in the price of domestic dairy pricing each time the international market collapses. Farmers and government need to address the impact of failed attempts to participate in the global market place.
Domestic production should focus on domestic demand. Surplus should be sold for export. The problems come with large domestic production needs the export market just to break even. A "America first" while tring to force open foreign markets has turned the foreign markets against American exports.
that was the biggest problem back in the early70s when farmers started selling out, the wouldn't get together, instead they just kept spending and trying to get bigger on credit, now they're gone..
I know how what ur talking about. I live 20 min of 4 dairies milking 4500 cows each. One owned by Bill Gates the billionaire. Large dairies will never let supply management happen in this country.SMALL dairies in fla are long gone
They should seperate the small farm milk, let’s say 500 head or less and the commercial farm milk and price them accordingly. I would pay without a second thought but I also buy American and drive American made cars motorcycles. Wear American made work clothing and used to make American made tools until China beat me
its game over for small dairys in my lifetime I saw small stores and businesses literally by the hundreds bite the dust Remember you just cannot keep producing a product at a loss. Time to move on!
@@tctarheelfarmin358 you mind if i ask couple questions? My dream is to start a dairy, mind if i ask, how many cows you milk? Btw ive been working on dairys for 8-9years! So i know some about cows well a lot
Why dont you think like I did still milking cows using what milk I need to raise pork pigs do great on milk and selling milk feed beef making more then we ever did by using our own milk if the cow doesn't milk a 100 pound of milk its ok
And Gillibrand and her socialist approach to governance would only make it worse. She advocates for bigger government and more intervention. We need the footprint of government to get smaller, much smaller, when it comes to life,liberty and pursuit, etc, in America.
Can you outline Gillibrand's 'socialist approach'...at all. Otherwise you're just full of it and spouting off talking points you've heard people tell you you should be repeating, but don't know anything about.
Small farmers are putting small farmers out of business! What do you do when your a small Farmer and the prices are too low on the board you produce more milk which makes the problem worse ending up eventually annihilating all the small farms! This whole problem is completely self-induced by the farmers and it will solve itself as well and that's what you're seeing here!
@Robert H , It's not progress ! It's government ! Not many people have figured out that government is in partnership with big business. All kinds of big business. From chemical companies ( Monsanto ) huge dairy companies , huge egg producers , pork producers , chicken producers , electric companies , etc. It's the money ! It's the money ! It's the money !! And the government gets it's share .
@@donaldmiller8629 you do a lot of talking but there's clearly very little knowledge behind it! Clearly if you ever bothered paying attention to the actual facts you would see that the collective total of money the government gets from these big businesses is substantially smaller than the collective money that gets from the small business! the big businesses are far better at using tax loopholes to use the tax code better to their business model versus the small guys that often don't ever bother to truly understand what they're doing! The simple fact is almost all of these big operators where once small operators they're just better at what they do and have been over a long period of time slowly but surely dominating the market.
Why can't they make, and this sounds like a joke, but make another product out of the milk. We are suppose to have top notch colleges why can't they do something.
@Ronald Bequeath , Ah , but they do ! Quite a few years ago they found that if you homoginize milk , they can skim off most of the cream and the consumer can't tell how much cream is NOT in the milk. Now they call this nearly skim milk "whole milk " and sell the cream separately. Go price a half pint of cream. At one time we had to ask for homoginized milk. These days you can find anything but homoginized milk. And by the way , homoginized has nothing to do with being pasteurized.
Donald, your right and being 68 I all ready have been there, I'm talking about bio fuel, milk plastics, and yes, they do make edible underwear. But let's be real with all the intelligence out there.....??? can't they find something to do with milk beside fertilizer. Having 2 Jerseys, and having raised and milked 60 milking alpine goats, I know about cheese, butter, yogurt, kefir, ghee, etc. If the best they can do is creme, they haven't been looking to hard.
Seems the food industry is importing cheap butter, cheese, evaporated milk, and yogurt from Mexico via air cargo. Packaging it in NY as US product. And the local farmers are starved to death gradually. Of course in the EU that is very similar. The food industry is importing big style cheap products from Russia and other East European countries and farmers in France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Scandinavia are left with nothing. Well, they get adjustment payments from the EU.
OUR FAMILY FARM RETIRED IN 1982 GOVERNMENT PAID AT THAT TIME $18.65 HUNDREDWEIGHT SEEN IT ALL THEN IF YOUR NOT INDUSTREALL NEVER START FARMING GO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE
bummer that the farmers are loosing their asses, I am sure most of those family farms are paid for, I am sure they can grow something else there ? dairy industry is over, its a fact, hopefully these people can figure out how to make a living on their lands.........
Man this hit very hard. We sold out 2 years ago. Seeing the trucks pull away with the cows was the hardest thing ive ever had to see.
Hi Brody Cave, is it okay if i ask some questions about dairy farming, ive been milker myself for about 9yrs! But i really wanted to ask some questions. Hope you are willing to hear me out and answering my questions thank you! My name is arturo btw
Yeah, I cried for this one, and it's not the first time. As a teen, I was absolutely certain I would become a dairy farmer in this area of NY state. By the second oil embargo of the 70s, farms were starting to go due to increased fuel and fertilizer costs. And just like they said here, milk brought $14 a hundredweight back then.....about the same as now. I saw my future dying before my eyes, before I even got fully going. That's very hard to take. I have to think in part that growing up, some of us became invested in the belief that this way of life was good for us. It built our skills, it fed us healthily, and it was easy to grasp from our picture books and social training, that it was healthy and worthwhile, it was a way we could help others, by feeding them, while we ourselves could live and work in nature, yes, working hard, and taking care of the land. It was an honorable thing to do, to be a farmer. It brought dignity to the human experience, to my human experience.
Now the honor of most professions seems gone or going quickly. The honor was sold out, for better pricing, or higher profits, or to make room for unbridled 'progress' and 'to the death' innovation. People driven madly by money were able to take control, over and above a sense of social good we used to share as a nation. A corporate structure emerged, devoid of human values. Profit for profit's sake, 'self first', less thought for the impact on others of one's actions. So here we are. Mega corporations and self-focused wealth are taking everything they can, the mind of man has changed. The 'one' rules over the many, and selfishly so.
We can change it if we see the value in ourselves and in our neighbors. If we value our existence, not always strive to be less, do for less, and give less. The problems seem huge, and the answers are small, but we can change things if we try, but it won't be easy at all. It takes a different frame of mind than we have now as a society. I don't have "the" answer, but I can sometimes feel solutions to parts of the puzzle. When we each bring the solutions we can feel, changes can occur very broadly, and with depth. As the solution starts with each of us, it honors a de-centralized way of living. That's a huge clue. Less corporate control, more consideration for how my actions effect my fellow beings. Go inside yourself, find and study your 'best nature', bring that forward in your life against the odds and forces that would deter you. It's the best that I can do right now. It's an investment for the future.
Words of a true liberal. Farmers been taking for a century from hard working tax paying people. Yet, we never got any free milk or corn.
@@edwardwhite221 You don't have a clue!! Most farm subsidies go to the corporate farms, not to small farms. That is what unbridled capitalism and a lopsided tax structure creates and the reason large farms keep getting larger and centralized. That only started in the last 2 decades and a lot more in the last 3 1/2 years. A century ago there were no farm subsidies. Farms too large to fail, created by a conservative system of capitalism and lobbyists that control the government through taxing the middle class and the poor at a higher percentage of their earned income and subsidizing the rich through lower tax rates, much larger deductions and allowing people who don't even farm to be getting money (meant for the those actually working their own farms) from the Covid-19 bailout. It's the "System of Things" and the current administration that is the monster. And remember the processors in between who disproportionately raise the prices we pay for the final product. We need many more smaller farms and not just a few huge conglomerates for they end up owning our government just because they are just that, too large to fail. Thus they get most taxpayer bailout funds even when they don't need it and even when some don't even live and work on a farm. You mention "free" milk or corn. Isn't that what Bernie Sanders was trying to do all along with healthcare? And now you complain when you don't get free milk or corn, and healthcare for that matter and get double whammied by conservatives (tax breaks for the rich along with unneeded bailouts)....well be careful of what you wish for because you are paying for it dearly and not getting anything in return.
This is heartbreaking. Farming is probably one of the most honorable and noble professions. In my state I see farms sold and turned into housing developments all the time. It’s so sad.
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A good documentary, showing a reality that the majority of people don't ever see.
George, they need one now of the cost of having farming in your community to tax payers. Your hat will fall off.
Technology has proven to be agriculture's downfall allowing a few to get beyond huge while crushing family size operations. Do people really want our food supply controlled by a few entities?
Thank you all farmers u can do it god bless
Thank you tax payers for carrying these failing farmers for all these years while the government allowed them to buy up most of the land.
@@edwardwhite221 you need to do more research
This documentary about the state of the struggling American dairy farm is wholesomely sad. Dairy and crop farmers are the weavers of the fabric that binds this country together. This is very much an eye opening presentation.
People need to view this now, in 2020.
I live in upstate NY and I appreciate all the hard work and devotion of all the farmers in my state ! I really hope that our government pulls their head out of their ass and see the big picture here ! Thankyou all for your hard work and dedication greatly appreciated 👍
Dream on
A needed reality check. This is too sad. I live in upstate NY and I buy raw milk direct from local farms. Few are even doing it but it's most lucrative for the farm, and best for our health. Direct to consumer(on-farm sales) are most lucrative for farmers.
You are correct! I think farmers need to focus on direct to consumer sales where they have price control. The government milk market system gives farmers no control over prices
@@mattcrowell7945 they cannot sell to Consumers it's against the law
I am from western ny and the small farms here are pretty much a thing of the past. Within a 5 mile radius of my house there were 15 small dairy farms and now there are 3. It hurts the whole community feed mills and hardware stores are closing right behind them.
You should Copy the Canadian system of supply management. You Buy Quota and get a set price for milk .
Yup, but people are too brainwashed in this country by “free market” politics. They would never go for state run quota systems. But they don’t realize our current system is killing rural America and making our food supply chain very vulnerable.
6:29 "The federal government sets the price for milk"
Oh wait, I thought it was a free market economy?
These folks are my friends & neighbors. The best people on the planet. As the older farmers pass the farms disappear because the young one's don't have the resources to go forward. This is both a shame and a threat to to everyone of us. 😥
Alls dairy farmers heard for years that kept them going was ( its going to change the prices will go up) but they never did. Just recently milk hit 19.00 a hundred here in pa. We hired an old dairy farmer that just sold his heard and it is sad to see. Something really does have to change and its not build up so big that you no longer take part in actually caring for the animals.
Heartbreaking story. Thanks for reporting on this. I hope the politicians in Albany (and other state capitols) and DC start to pay attention to this and take some action.
Cuomo is more interested in killing newborns so never expect that murderer to EVER support dairy farmers. What a worthless piece of cow shit, yet you New Yorkers elected him!!! Shame on you!
@@robperotti6225 don't forget the ILLEGAL FREELOADERS
@@robperotti6225 the city people elected the scumbags
@Greg MacGowan ,
The politicians do take action ! They are in partnership with the mega farm ( or chemical companies such as Monsanto ) businesses and so pass laws to prevent the small farmers from competing with the mega farm businesses. Then when the politician or senior administrator retires they become VP's of one of the big businesses.
And the general public continues to vote for the Democrats that are cutting their throats. Wondering why everything is so bad and becoming worse.
They won’t! Feinstein said we don’t need farms, “we can get the milk from the store”..
Have a quota system like Canada with a fixed price where farmers can make money. Not the dairy telling you what they are going to pay that day.
Sad but very true we sold our cows back in the late 80's and now we have no farm at all taxes kept going up price of f grain wasn't worth growing because of cost of fuel and insurance farmers have it tough I miss farming I pray farmers get some kind of relief soon
This just heartbreaking it really is as farmer I know fake smile there putting on everyday feeling of failure an let down to your dad or grand parents who started the farm and emotions that come with it. It just sad and heartbreaking
This might sound like a crazy idea, but why don't they subsidize their income by using one of the their barns as a stable for horses? My horse is stabled in a previous dairy barn in Newton, NJ. I pay $325 a month, plus my vet bills and farrier. They grow the hay on their 400 acres, there are about 36 horses stabled there. They also have 5 head of cattle they butcher and sell from their store along with turkeys that they harvest on the farm and make their own sausages. They sell the sausages for $8.00 for 8 oz., they also have wine and cheese sales once a year and hundreds of people come for the one day event. These dairy farmers need to expand their forms of income, just milk won't cut it with so many people saying they are allergic to milk and drinking almond milk and such. I pay $3.89 a gallon for 2 % milk at Shop Rite and about $3.29 at Costco or Sam's Club, I don't think that's chump change, so the problem is with the way the government sets the price. Maybe the dairy farmers need to lobby for a change in the pricing. I truly hope they find a way to hang on, they are crucial for the health of our economy and people. If you import foods from other countries, you are then subject to the medicines and toxic chemicals they use which most likely are banned in the USA. So if my math is correct, my barn earns $11,700 on 36 horses per month. They have to supply grain which they buy in bulk, electric, water, stall mats so they don't have to use tons of bedding and the hay they grow on their 400 acres. I just don't understand why farms don't diversify to save themselves. Changing over a barn to a stall would be minimal investment if they already have the barn. Just a suggestion if they want to remain on their farms. My friend who has a 9 acre farm in Lake Ariel, Pa bought 12 Alpacas and she sells the fiber once a year which pays the taxes on the farm, her home on a another property and an investment property on 10 acres. I just don't understand why they don't think outside the box and try to help themselves. Down size some of the herd to make room for more profitable livestock so they can afford to run their dairy until things change for the better. If they don't change, at least they have a safety net. Good luck, I want our dairy farmers to succeed!
The problem with boarding is the farmer then has to take time from his animals to turn yours out or hire somebody to do it and to clean up the stalls. They can no longer continue milking unless they hire people and most can not afford it.
No different here in PA , I m run a small dairy farm and I do with out things that I need so that the cows have what they need
I pray that things get better for you Soon I also live in Pennsylvania I know what you mean we got out of the dairy back when they had the herd buyout in the 80's and it was hard back then I couldn't even understand your struggles now I'll pray for you 🙏
Kirsten,as a Senator in New York,you did a fantastic job.What happened when you went to Washington ???
I'm from Upstate NY but live in the south for years. I grew up on a dairy farm outside of Cooperstown. I lived in Florida for 21 years before I ever went back and it made me sad ...most of the dairy farms around where shut right down. Some were beautiful farms. SAD.
In NY state it is a prison offence to sell raw milk to the public . Seeing Kirsten Gillibrand's phoney concern makes me nauseous.
Things never change in the dairy industry. The problem is the co-ops and when it comes down to it the farmers. Every meeting I went to when I was younger was farmers begging for government involvement. The problem is the farms produce with no regard for demand. The farmers should own shares of the proccesing so they have skin in the game instead of making more milk all the time. Basics of capitalism and supply and demand. The guy selling flavored milk has it figured out, have a market and then produce accordingly.
Agree they need to control the processing like here in NZ. Also they need to analyse their production systems and not just assume they have the best way.
Sometimes low payouts force needed change
When the government gets involved its no longer a system of supply and demand and everybody suffers. The next big thing the governments involved in that will fail....... student loans.
Yes and they don't believe in socialism, hahahaha
@@dallastaylor5479 Most don't, but there's a few hipocrits. Usually the hypocrites are farm bureau members. Lol
Commercial industries have killed the small farmer, farming is almost a hobby/ homestead anymore if u want to own animals.
Without dairy farms,well no ice cream no cheese no cream etc. just goes on and on.. we need these farmers... wake up America before it’s too late.
Don’t worry about it, the Chinese will buy all of the milk just like they did the pork industry! Now pork has tripled in price!
You realize in the last 15 years 75% of Wisconsin's dairy farms under 50 cows have gone out of business during that same time period their Their production has gone up by 50%! The problem here is there's too damn much milk being made by these farmers and they're killing themselves doing it!
Shawn Smith heck i like ice cream if i wouldn’t get fat I’d eat ice cream everyday...lol
@@deannelson9565 your correct sir and the better cows an land get bought up by bigger farms while marginal cows and land get set aside just buisness.Im sure those farmers found jobs and after thinking about it realized it was for the best
God bless
Pretty sad if the people issuing the cheques know the price is so long that they put a depression pamphlet in the envelope. Walked world
I have beef cattle and have work try to produce hay above what my cows need and market it to just have the cows. On top of that the places that I market my cattle have been doing things that I cannot prove but know they are doing that takes money away from me. I work to hard to get those animals to market to be shorted on my check and show prices less than what the cattle market reported for the sale they went through. I am not the only farmer in the area that is experiencing this trend. My heart goes out to the dairy and all farmers trying to make it.
You mean, like the Hide Color Discount on your Calves,?
I like the farm
The very first thing that I saw when I turned this on was a $150,000.00 tractor. In addition , the modern dairy farmer is producing a commodity product. Thus he has only ONE market. One customer! My former brother-in-law did the very same thing during the 1970's . He wanted to be a farmer. He could not afford to buy decent farm land in Utah ( they have much very alkaline soil ) so he leased 250 acres. A "small farmer " . And he grew sugar beets for his commodity crop. ( "it's what everybody else is growing " ) And the very first thing that he did was purchase a $40,000.00 tractor. That was the top price in those days. Come harvest time and the price of sugar beets dropped. Plus the processor automatically discounted 30 % of the weight of his crop. The consumer on the street has no use at all for sugar beets. So my brother -in-law lost his shirt. And maybe his underwear also . Plus , he could not make his lease payments ( thus he lost the farm house he was living in ) nor could he make his tractor payments. ( so the bank took it ) The bank sold the tractor at auction for $5,000.00 so he still owed almost $35,000.00. ( by the way , it was the bank that bought the tractor. ) Later had it for sale for $30,000.00 . A bargain price for a nearly new tractor.
I have seen where Amish have bought failed farms in northern N.Y. state and have made a go of them. Of course horse shoes don't cost nearly as much as tractor tires. And horses do not drink gasoline either .
Tractors burn diesel buddy
@@tctarheelfarmin358 ,
Some tractors use gasoline and some use diesel . Both are fuels that a farmer must pay for to operate the very costly tractor. So , what's your point ?
It is a very sad story indeed, the same story that is unfolding in upstate New York, the same story that's unfolding
ABSOLUTELY EVERYWHERE IN THE WESTERN WORLD - EVERYWHERE. You have to start asking yourself, why are
the milk prices so low? Why is it that water costs more than milk in the supermarket? Why is it that the supermarkets
have MONOPOLIZED the majority of the milk sales? Why is it that the supermarkets drive the prices down, down, down?
just like the Coles ads in Australia, where they are talking about the price of goods, not the price they pay for milk.
Why has the price of the milk that is bought off the farmers remained the same since the 70's, or since the 80's?
And why has the the farmers bills, such as feed, fertilizer, fuels, vets, electricity etc. kept going up, up & up ---------------
--------------> the answer to all those questions is - ZIONISM
It's very easy to see that they AB4OLUTELY CRAVE THAT LAND, land that has been in the hands of farming families in
rural ares for generations, for centuries in some cases, and they crave that land specifically because the land "selected"
in places like upstate NY, and everywhere in the Western World, particularly in the newer colonies outside Europe such
as the USA, Canada, South America, Australia, New Zealand, the lands that where "selected" for DAIRY FARMING was
some of the best farming land available, with plenty of rainfall, and plenty of green pastures for grazing on, often they
where located in rich fertile valleys, protected from harsh winds, storms, fires, or run-offs from bad farming practices,
in other words, many of these dairy farms, are the best farming lands in the their respective countries, and the parasites
are salivating, desperate to conjure a system whereby they can finally get their grubby hands on the deeds of those farms.
They are TURNING THE SCREWS EACH AND EVERYDAY, making the business of producing dairy products. completely
unsustainable for the dairy farmer, they just don't get the prices, nowhere near the prices they should be getting, the 8ankers
installed a system in place, where the have all the leverage, all the power, and all the say, THEY SET THE PRICE, AND THAT'S
ALL YOUR GETTING, as they have theorized that the farmers are by now struggling to such a point, they have no alternative
than to sell the milk at whatever price the parasites have set for them, whilst at the very same time, THE FUNGUS, THE WORM,
THE BLOODSUCKERS, leeching off the super hard work done by the dairy farmers, as they do the hard graft, getting up before
the sun, at between 3-4 in the morning, later in the afternoon they milk again, it is a sacrifice that the Zionist Bankers have
banked on will erode the spirit and will of the dairy farmers, and eventually with the bills adding up everyday, the debts
out-stripping the gains, they will take bigger risks and further stretch the account, until such time they have to call it a day,
fold the business, and not only sell the milk cows, but even in some cases sell the family farm, ending not only the actual
farm, but an unbroken chain of generations of farming, sometimes 5 or 6, sometimes more than 10 generations. This is
the STATED GOALS of the "8ankers" and of the Multinationals, THEY WANT THAT LAND.
Therefor everyone that has a dairy farm, has to have this very crystal-clear view inside their head, that they must do everything
possible to keep the farm in the hands of their family, and if for whatever reason a farm must be sold, it then is only ever sold
to PEOPLE WITHIN THEIR OWN CO-OPERATIVES, sometimes even the CO-OP can by it between all the members, and then run
it between them, also the farmers MUST PUT INTO PLACE A "FAMILY TRUST" whereby the farms can never be sold, or even
"heavily leveraged against", and if a BAD EGG comes inside the sheds, he or she cannot "engineer" a situation where the farm
can be sold to pay for whatever way the butterfly flies, if they marry into your family, they marry for love, not for ulterior motives,
not for monetary interests. The farmers must be very wary in how much money they are borrowing, the 8anks will be throwing
money at you, as like I said before, the fungus covets those parcels of land, they will offer you many, many money, as that is
money that doesn't even exist, they just REFRACT WITH FRACTIONAL BORROWING AGAINST SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY.
There is an especially fascinating story that I am keen to hear from the people themselves, the story of the ice creamery in
North Eastern United States in the state of Vermont, the Ben & Jerry's ice cream factories, and just how they have treated
the farmers out there, and if they have heavy-handed them, installing systems into place that hands all the say to the BJ'S
management, and exactly HOW MANY OF THESE FAMILY FARMS HAVE CHANGED HANDS SINCE BJ'S BUNCH OF FJ'S
bulldozed their way into the landscapes of those quiet, sleepy farming communities, what has happened to that scenario
in the last 40 years since the parasitic organism called Zionism entered their lives? Are the same family dairy farms still
operating, or have there been forced exchanges, or has the fungus installed their people into their lives and lounge rooms?
One last comment that I want to say, the dairy farmers themselves are in some cases going to have to DIVERSIFY THEIR
FARMING PRACTICES, in the case of the smaller farms, possibly have other "AVENUES OF INCOME" so maybe even having
a lesser number of milking cows, and bringing in other types of cattle, that are sold for meat, also maybe rearing pigs,
selling the "lechones" for BBQ's & restaurants, for the weekend fairs etc. the lechones are the baby pigs, but the bigger pigs
can be "milk-reared" off the cows themselves, giving the meat a special texture, also other avenues of income like the B & B's
(the farming experience) and "value-adding the milk products" such as cheese, yogurt, flavored milk, sweets, dulce de leche.
I sincerely hope some of these ideas have a positive impact for the farmers. Good luck, and never give up.
We have a beef cow calf operation in up state ny, I appreciate the shoe guys attempt at boutique milk products; however seem he has more money to invest than most! If your paying for help buying and raising cows, hay and keeping machinery up your going to have to sell a billion little bottles of chocolate milk to make it. If your able to fund a hobby that’s great but most farmers are not in that league. I thank you for what your doing it is most noble and keeps farming alive! Don’t mean to seem sour about it, keep it up ! Just expressing my view of a most hard situation!
No matter where you go. People who come to farming made their money somewhere else and think farming is a romantic trip
the answer was given right by one of the farmers. "there is an overproduction of milk" any industry with too much product should be balanced naturally, not by government handouts. farms will shutdown and production will align more with demand.
i'm not saying there isn't something wrong with the industry and big ag, because there IS. farming should be smaller and local, and i'm seeing this trend starting all over the country, so i believe we'll see the balance return int he next 10 years maybe?
Why’s big ag a problem?.
Get the government out of it. Government is the problem, not the solution.
The same os happening in Michigan sells fell 60% and bills hitting an all Time high
What US Dairy farmers need is similar to Canadian farmers is have dairy marketing boards to protect farmers from going in dept or bankrupt.the Canadian farmer is protected from dept or bankruptcy by the boards regulation to keep prices fair or better than fair to keep Canadian farmers in busness .
Of course subsidies help too
No they need to cut production but they will never do it voluntarily so the only way to make it happen is for some of them to go out of business so that the herd sizes are reduced over time.
@@deannelson9565 During Reagan 10% of dairy cows were bought out by gov. Remember a farmer can increase his herd by 50% in one year! Manage the milk supply and not the cows.
@@sgtcrab1 and so you do what have the government buy all the extra milk and just throw it away! United States is a free market so these kind of farmers have only control over how much they can produce and not how many of them are producing therefore they will all keep producing at a rapid rate trying to stay afloat continuing the cycle until enough of them are gone to equal it out.
Canadian Dairy farmers, have a milk quota system. There are no subsidies per say. The way you said that it seems like the Gov is throwing money at them, which is not true. Although there are farmers loan boards ect, they usually charge more interest than a bank would. The marketing boards are paid by the farmers, for their work.
They are only allowed to produce(sell) what their quota will allow them to, any over run is dumped I believe. This way there is never any more milk produced than there is quota. If there is 1 million gallons of milk being sold every day in any given area why would someone want to produce 2 million? Just to have it poured down the drain? This was the problem here in the late 70's, I believe. So this quota system was established to make sure the same thing did not happen here as what is taking place in the US now. When a dairy buys milk from the farmer, and ends up throwing 2/3's of it down the drain because it is not being bought by the consumer, who do you think will suffer because of it?
The quota system is not without it's problems, but for the farmers, they can have a small farm, and live well off the income. Most of the smaller farms Quotas are being bought up buy major Corporations now, when the farmers decide to retire, instead of handing them down to family, because of the astronomical price of Quota. Which in turn, keeps smaller farms from increasing their quota, because of this cost as well.
When people go to grocery stores to get milk, yes prices are high, but we do not have farmers hanging themselves in the barns because they see no other way out!
Also the system itself is the reason the tariff on milk coming into Canada is high. But you also have to realize the State of Wisconsin produces more milk than all of Canada. Think about that for awhile.
This has been happening here California since 2007!
its been goin on in ny for 20 yrs. 300 farms to 90 to 50 in the area in less than 7 yrs
I thought US is a free market. Why would govt set the milk price?? Shouldn’t it be set automatically by supply and demand.....??
They never come up pass Syracuse, for upstate n.y. it is horrible up here, with everything!!
Perhaps you should consider efficient production over popularity?
How can it be that milk is at an all-time cheap price when I am paying more for milk than I have ever paid in my life?! I am paying $3.99 a gallon at my local grocery store. Does anyone but me remember when milk was $.99 a gallon? So, who is getting all the money I pay for milk that (apparently) dairy farmers are not getting for their milk? Do we have too many middlemen taking profits out of the middle? Someone should look into this. Something doesn't smell right about this.
Its a factor of a lot stuff! Milk is on the lowest right now (dairy product) consumed! What happened was that back in the day the milk companys were paying everyone the same for milk every famer! But couple years ago(i think) companys (im not so sure or know too much about this) but they started to pay different prices for milk, powder milk, cheese, and butter! So some dairys(a lot) are getting paid less than other dairys for their milk. All dairys have a contract with milk companys so when they started to pay less for milk they can or couldnt do much about it! Today like for an example, milk that goes straight for milk only are getting about 1dollar for gallon or even less! And so other dairys that have contracts with different milk companys are being payed more! Like milk that goes for cheese and butter, right now is about 2dollars for gallon! But yea its a lot of factors lots! One simple one like milk its not only made with cow milk nowadays, there tons of ways that milk is created from, go to the grocery store and see for yourself! Almonds etc. Etc...
It's really sad that no matter how efficient a farmer is you can't make a profit
At least you have a very pretty aerial photo of your farm to cherish the memories..
Sad happening in Kansas the same way it’s in New York. Government doesn’t care it’s big corporations or get out.
It’s opposite here in NZ, the big corporations struggle to out compete the family farms because their production systems are less efficient
this ex shoe guy is atleast giving these cows some comfort. i hope they get out on the land to graze. and by the way i would never ever want anyone to lose the family farm ever. i hope you all keep it and do something else. i wish i had a farm
There are no family dairy farms left in my area of MN. I couldn't even tell you where the nearest family dairy is. However there are 2 huge corporate dairies. One is a 9500 head & the other is 11,000 head. 50 million dollars to build each one they said. How do they make money when the family dairy farms can't? Corporate farms will be the death of family farms. It's a shame to see these poor families forced to quit with the dairy farming.
Go big or go broke sad but true
My uncle had a dairy farm and he lost it a couple years back
Lost it or cashed it in? You dont lose land
Sad times. It's the same story all over the world. The only farms that I know doing well now are those that have diversified. We have one here that now uses its milk to produce their own cheeses and with good marketing they have become very successful.
Coole Snakes - dairy farms are doing well in Canada but we have a supply management system that ensures farmers get paid for their hard work.
The government wants cheap food and as long as there are farmers that are able to produce it cheaply then it will continue. There has been a stay for small farms ,they went to rotational grazing and baleage so their able to hang on a little longer by cutting costs.The ones that are taking it on the chin now are the 200-400 cow farms,now they are to big to be small and too small to be big.Just like many of the farms that went out in the 70s and 80s.
The imminent danger in losing smaller dairy farms is in food security itself. It's like Kristen Jilliebrand said, in a disaster, much like the coronavirus we now have, food security is much safer when farms are local and spread out instead of a few huge farms far away from the consumer, that can not distribute the milk products in a pandemic. At that time the price paid in the grocery store skyrockets while the price at the farm plummets. It doesn't make sense. Subsidize the small farms so they can survive! It's a matter of local security.
Farming is farming. If you are doing well in one market, you can switch and your farm can adapt. Organic anything is big business these days. Switch over and move-on. Go with what works. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Years ago, I was an Ayrshire breeder and equally, a Dairyman. I form a real minority mindset from going away from holstein to Ayrshires. This region was formally an Ayrshire stronghold. Holsteins aren't the given. Sorry this is an issue. Holsteins aren't the answer.
What pisses me off is no one understands is if it wasn’t for a trucker that milk would not be able to get to the grocerey store think about it it doesn’t just magically appear ima. Shelf at some point it gets put on a Walmart truck or any truck and shipped to the d.c then put on a Walmart or any type of semi and shipped to the grocerey store so if u see a trucker thank them because there the reason u get ur milk from the grocerey store... I’m not saying a farmer is the whole reason but how do u think there milk gets to the grocerey store well because of a trucker takes time out of his/her life to do they’re job by driving an 18 wheeled semi
I am Mexican, any number to work in this company?
And that's why Marketing Boards WORK (at least it should help) and why BIG CORPS are not always good.
I want to learn such job because i love animals and nature who can help me here to experienced dairy farm job?
Oppose H.R. 5038, let your congress person know. I recently had two unique and interesting experiences that I'd like to share.
"The first, I had the opportunity to tour a large (3000 head) dairy, the technology and overall operation was impressive. Our tour guide was questioned about the dairies workforce and stated that of their 40 employees all but three were immigrants. (No one asked and your speculation would be as accurate as mine to their legal status.)
The second experience. I delivered a bull to a long time customer, whose family has operated a 100 head dairy for several generations. A couple years ago when I had dropped a bull off, he proudly introduced me to his son, daughter-in-law and their kids who had recently moved home and were planning to eventually take over the operation. As I visited with this man; a man of integrity and character, he told me that they were done, the son was looking for other employment and that he would sell the cows once he could find a buyer....they simply couldn't compete. I didn't know what to say....what could be said? So, I just stood there, next to this man. You know the type: hard working, strong, moral, deeply involved in his community, his church. I just stood there, while this man wept.
It was from those two events that I draw my answer to your question, "who will do these jobs?" The answer: Americans.
There are Americans who will work feed yards, hog operations, packing plants, etc. On this message board there are individuals that would/do proudly engage in this type and scope of work. The difference would be a shift from large scale, low wage employees producing commodity products back to smaller scale, family owned and operated ones. These large Agriculture endeavors have devoured American Agriculture solely because of their access to almost unlimited low wage immigrant laborers. If that supply were to cease, I'd expect a resurgence of opportunity for custom slaughter plants, back yard grow yards and small scale dairies.
The American labor shortage is a myth. If you allow a man the dignity of ownership and the opportunity to make a profit.....he and his family will work." ~ Unknown
So what happens when all the farms go out then who feeds the world
It's not milk if u buy it from the store unless it has the cream still on it
Can you venture into another business with the farm, like beef and pork?
they will sell the 1000's of acres they bought with government grants and low interest loans and retire with millions. Never seen a farm for sale cheap in 30 years.
Gillebran pretending to support the farmers. right
This is big government at its best! They need to let the market set the price, free market economics works. And it figures that it's coming out of Chicago. Same place obamacare was born.
Now Our Presidente is helping the Farmer just vote for him, and get the Demonsrats out of office.
I feel really bad for all these Farmers, as I was one and stripped out of my property by the Communist Cuba. I am still grieving for my farm.
@@HERBALNATUMAN1 over here the communities are forced to pay the taxes, grants and loan forgiveness of our local farmers. In return, well we get to pay full price ofr our goods like $4/lb for a pepper.
Leandro Zuniga how is our president helping the farmer? The democrats aren’t in office he is...
A gallon of gas is $3.00
Gallon of milk is $3.00
One needs refrigeration and feeding .
Farmers pay $1 per thousand in property taxes. I pay $41. Yet, they get full price for their product at market. Bad investment on my end huh?
@@edwardwhite221 yeua their property is ruled agricultural. They have much more property than you, much more land, equipment, they typically employ several people, etc
@@edwardwhite221 and the dont get full price for their products
How can I start a dairy fram
I want to start one myself too! First need land and cows! But you need land for about 600 cows or more if you want to make it!
@@losxmatitas6950 won't be enough herds over 3000 cows going broke can't pay for cows and land or even a lease on today's prices. If people who are on a family farm that had no debt one generation ago can't how are you?
it is so sad to see this happening in the USA the country all over the world is known to be the most powerful economy but in reality it is not . It is a shame on the government to leave the dairy farmers suffer meanwhile it is funding wars in many places throughout the planet .
Best regards from Morocco to these dairy farmers and their famillies .
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Sad but true. We dont have farmers we don't eat
wheat prices havent gone up in UK for 40 years WTF
But neither have potatoes , milk or anything else .
@@paulwainwright967 840 million people are staving in the world, but we as farmers are overproducing so prices are low. In UK wheat plantings are down 30% this winter and price will go up next year. Supply and demand. I don't know the answer.
@@normanpouch for a start with UK farmers have never produced 100% of our milk , the problem is it's imported there lies one problem . Then you all carry on at food miles so why do we need to import so much ? Answer is we don't we could do more here if given the chance . The supermarket's earn to much compared with the producer irrespective of what it is , then they pay most of the time on 90 days , when we go to the supermarket don't we have to pay at the till ? Next problem is farmers will not all pull in the same direction if they won't pay enough don't let them have it hard I know but sometimes these things have to be done , it would be in France . If you all did that you could keep prices up . Don't come back and tell me that it's against some eu law you think they don't do it or the supermarket's don't all corrupt so help yourselves.
@@paulwainwright967 Agree Paul, I am a farmer and on your side. So when do we get like the French Farmers? We need leadership.
@@normanpouch That is the problem , I am not a farmer my work is with tractor parts for the oldest to the newest , I am from a mixed farm of dairy , pigs and sheep. That would be unviable today . However if something isn't done my industry will go as well . There are no tractors manufactured here anymore , the company's moved out or were bought out and no government has done anything about it. Same thing with Thomas Cook , however the German's and the Danish government bailed there companies out totally against EU law but perfectly ok over there and here lies one problem one rule for one and one rule for another , just makes my blood boil .
Listen up and take this advice. You can make it. As a farmer you have to come to terms that the old way dose not do it anymore. Farming is a family ran business and you have to put all your heads to gather and think outside the box. You want to make money stop selling your milk 🥛 to the milk association. Take upon your self ,do the research. You can be successful by selling you own milk creating a product. When i tell farm this they look at me and think just more debt. Stop working for government. They set the price not you. When will you set your price? Take a look at a farm called mooville do the research they are just one of many farms i looked into to change the way I farm. I am debt free dont own the bank a dime. Take the middle man out of milk and reach out to your community. I get $ 5.00 a gallon make my own cheese ice cream and the list goes on stop with we can't make money. Their are many company's out there that will work with you solely. I dont have the answer to everything I took the time to change and do the research. If i can do it you can.
Why dont they adopt the quota system like Canada?
Maarten Kassies that’s very expensive to get into and it’s pretty well impossible to start a new farm with it, quota last time I knew was $36,400 per cow, you need Atleast 40 head to make it a viable choice so then your already paying $1.5 million for quota, although you can turn that 1.5 million back within few years if your barn is setup good and your equipment is grounded well, my neighbours have a 210 head dairy which they just expanded from 95 head and this last year they already payed off there quota but they also have a barn that is grounded extremely well and have great milk production, I’ve seen some 120 head dairy’s go out even with the quota system in place
@@timmyteabag69 I think nowadays farmers have to stop thinking about having things paid off but rather to be at a size where they can comfortably manage expenses
@Ryan Robichaud maybe do abit more research on this subject. I grew up with the quota system and it is a system that covers more of consumer concerns of today including environmental, factory farming, and animal welfare. In the quota system family farms can still make a living off 100 cows, compared to places with out quota where they have to milk 2000 for the same income
Move to Canada 🇨🇦
Gotta make a UA-cam channel bub
Beaucratic NY made more expensive to live. Surely not only farmers, lot of civilians lost the value of self dependent.
This whole thing is a load of crap. I really feel sorry for our farmers. The government should be helping them out. If the price of milk is the same as it was in the 70’s - something is wrong. Everything else goes up - so why not milk when we buy it. So if it cost $5 a gallon for milk and it helps the farmers - I would pay that. I’m totally frustrated after seeing this report- we need to take care of these farmers - there the backbone of this country!!!!!
I agree wholeheartedly if the government is doing something to artificially keep milk prices suppressed but if this is just market forces then tough luck.
The price of milk is so low is because these damn farmers are producing too damn much of it! You see when they can't make as much money due to the low prices the standard milk producers solution of that is to produce more milk to get their margins back in line but the problem is that makes this problem substantially worse! This is what happens when you have a market full of little independent contractors they all work for themselves and end up destroying each other in the process! What you are seeing here is a natural correction to a dramatic imbalance in the marketplace! If you could get them all together to slow down production that would raise overall prices but good luck doing it!
dean nelson what you’ll find is the best most efficient operators are doing just fine on current prices. Normally low prices should drive down production as farmers cut costs to remain solvent.
That’s the effect it has here in Nz
@@Gumpmachine1 You might think that but you would be wrong. You can't cut production if you only make one thing there in lies there Doom. Any questions on this just watch 20:15 and you will find the Hart of the problem.
dean nelson you can cut production if the extra milk costs you more than it returns which quite often is the case. Increasing production at a loss is pointless but many farmers still do it on the mistaken assumption that more milk equals more money.
friends you need to diversify...farmers that depend on only one source of income are screwed. Raise pigs, start fattening calves, chickens, grow Corn, etc...farmers the world over are fucked by governments and need to be as independent as possible. France is in deep trouble also and they are finding nice solutions not to be dependent on other people to tell how much your procuct and labour is worth
the easy answer for the government, to put a limit of 200 cows per farm, the big boys would soon disappear,
@Evelyn Woodcock ,
You should see the 15 - 20 acre " dairy farms " in California with 400 - 500 cows on them. They milk 24 hours a day.
They also boast that they have more dairy cows than Wisconsin. But what they don't tell you is that none of those cows has ever seen a blade of green grass.
the land to do that is already gone in a lot of areas.
Hey I delisvwred our Ik middlebrug with Wayne from ups
A sad day in America! So close the farms and sell people lab produced foods? Wtf!
I will answer the sentiments of William Sickner. My contention is that exports of dairy products lead to massive crashes in the price of domestic dairy pricing each time the international market collapses. Farmers and government need to address the impact of failed attempts to participate in the global market place.
Domestic production should focus on domestic demand. Surplus should be sold for export. The problems come with large domestic production needs the export market just to break even. A "America first" while tring to force open foreign markets has turned the foreign markets against American exports.
Farmers should come together and cut the middle man Dale farm is 1300 farmers who work as a co op they own everything from feed to the brands
that was the biggest problem back in the early70s when farmers started selling out, the wouldn't get together, instead they just kept spending and trying to get bigger on credit, now they're gone..
I have 5 mega dairys within 6 miles of my house.
I know how what ur talking about. I live 20 min of 4 dairies milking 4500 cows each. One owned by Bill Gates the billionaire. Large dairies will never let supply management happen in this country.SMALL dairies in fla are long gone
Michael Corning, same here in California! I know a few who are owned by a family farms!
I'll bet that smells sweet
They should seperate the small farm milk, let’s say 500 head or less and the commercial farm milk and price them accordingly. I would pay without a second thought but I also buy American and drive American made cars motorcycles. Wear American made work clothing and used to make American made tools until China beat me
Who's to blame politicians?
Technology is killing the job environment!!!
When dairy giant Deans chooses bankruptcy, how can that fare anything but bad for the small American dairy farm?
its game over for small dairys in my lifetime I saw small stores and businesses literally by the hundreds bite the dust Remember you just cannot keep producing a product at a loss. Time to move on!
Over production and less consumption.
Government setting price floors below the cost of production
Large dairy companies, subsidies, and our lovely government are the causes. It is what it is
You a dairy famer?
@@losxmatitas6950 yes indeed
@@tctarheelfarmin358 you mind if i ask couple questions? My dream is to start a dairy, mind if i ask, how many cows you milk? Btw ive been working on dairys for 8-9years! So i know some about cows well a lot
Why dont you think like I did still milking cows using what milk I need to raise pork pigs do great on milk and selling milk feed beef making more then we ever did by using our own milk if the cow doesn't milk a 100 pound of milk its ok
Can you talk more about that not sure what you are saying
Sounds like any business the strong survive
And Gillibrand and her socialist approach to governance would only make it worse. She advocates for bigger government and more intervention. We need the footprint of government to get smaller, much smaller, when it comes to life,liberty and pursuit, etc, in America.
Can you outline Gillibrand's 'socialist approach'...at all. Otherwise you're just full of it and spouting off talking points you've heard people tell you you should be repeating, but don't know anything about.
Just like the big boxes put downtown out of business . Big high volume farms are putting small farms out of business . Not good , put it's progress .
Small farmers are putting small farmers out of business! What do you do when your a small Farmer and the prices are too low on the board you produce more milk which makes the problem worse ending up eventually annihilating all the small farms! This whole problem is completely self-induced by the farmers and it will solve itself as well and that's what you're seeing here!
@@deannelson9565 I AGREE with you and the solution is not government bailouts been tried before an failed .Example whole herd buy out in the mid 80s .
@Robert H ,
It's not progress ! It's government ! Not many people have figured out that government is in partnership with big business. All kinds of big business. From chemical companies ( Monsanto ) huge dairy companies , huge egg producers , pork producers , chicken producers , electric companies , etc. It's the money ! It's the money ! It's the money !! And the government gets it's share .
@@donaldmiller8629 you do a lot of talking but there's clearly very little knowledge behind it! Clearly if you ever bothered paying attention to the actual facts you would see that the collective total of money the government gets from these big businesses is substantially smaller than the collective money that gets from the small business! the big businesses are far better at using tax loopholes to use the tax code better to their business model versus the small guys that often don't ever bother to truly understand what they're doing! The simple fact is almost all of these big operators where once small operators they're just better at what they do and have been over a long period of time slowly but surely dominating the market.
Why can't they make, and this sounds like a joke, but make another product out of the milk. We are suppose to have top notch colleges why can't they do something.
@Ronald Bequeath ,
Ah , but they do ! Quite a few years ago they found that if you homoginize milk , they can skim off most of the cream and the consumer can't tell how much cream is NOT in the milk. Now they call this nearly skim milk "whole milk " and sell the cream separately. Go price a half pint of cream. At one time we had to ask for homoginized milk. These days you can find anything but homoginized milk. And by the way , homoginized has nothing to do with being pasteurized.
Donald, your right and being 68 I all ready have been there, I'm talking about bio fuel, milk plastics, and yes, they do make edible underwear. But let's be real with all the intelligence out there.....??? can't they find something to do with milk beside fertilizer. Having 2 Jerseys, and having raised and milked 60 milking alpine goats, I know about cheese, butter, yogurt, kefir, ghee, etc. If the best they can do is creme, they haven't been looking to hard.
Need to be like car company’s just set price and let union paid people pay the price out of there big checks. Thanks
Seems the food industry is importing cheap butter, cheese, evaporated milk, and yogurt from Mexico via air cargo. Packaging it in NY as US product. And the local farmers are starved to death gradually. Of course in the EU that is very similar. The food industry is importing big style cheap products from Russia and other East European countries and farmers in France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Scandinavia are left with nothing. Well, they get adjustment payments from the EU.
No matter whether you live in USA OR INDIA , farmers use modern tech or conventional methods still
FARMERS ARE just gambling with monsoon,price,,,,
The dairy farms got too big.
Kevin Haan, you know why? Cause you have to go big to survive!
OUR FAMILY FARM RETIRED IN 1982 GOVERNMENT PAID AT THAT TIME $18.65 HUNDREDWEIGHT SEEN IT ALL THEN IF YOUR NOT INDUSTREALL NEVER START FARMING GO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE
bummer that the farmers are loosing their asses, I am sure most of those family farms are paid for, I am sure they can grow something else there ? dairy industry is over, its a fact, hopefully these people can figure out how to make a living on their lands.........