Train fares may DOUBLE soon, and this will affect YOU
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This is part of the globalist agenda of confining people to 15 mins smart cities and the Great Reset, Agenda 2030 - the railways and air travel for the masses will both be affected, as in the WEF’s Klaus Schawb’s “you will own nothing and you will be happy” etc
Been there done it. Thanks Jen for articulating this… hope your other bloggers chime in too.
Super off peak fares are being withdrawn Feb 5
Feedback given to LNER. The removal of off peak isn't mentioned until you choose more information on the flex70 trial. What a rip off.
Does the UK have a passengers' union or association!? Here I the US we have RPA and RUN. This seems like a great time to start a passengers' union that advocates for more and affordable rail travel.
Knew something like this would happen since the U-turn of scrapping ticket office staff. The government just don't get it - they commute by helicopter and see the working class as cattle that are only good for their votes every five years. We have to collectively stop this madness.
Don't worry - they'll be gone soon and hopefully the new one will see sense and stop this madness.
Agreed, but don't think Labour will do anything to stop it - both Neoliberal parties have admitted they do NOT care about us.
Reform UK and Re-join EU WILL both scrap this as they want prices reduced - they may disagree on Brexit but both agree lower prices and even cancelling debts is the way to go.
Normally I might get upset about interrupting the usual feel good and fun videos you make, but this is such a major issue, I think it's a message that we all need to spread as widely as possible.
I can't understand how off-peak tickets are seen as 'complicated' in any way, but like you said this is almost certainly ideologically-driven. I'll email my MP of course but I hope there's other things we can do as well.
We need a petition to stop this ticket from continuing further than it has. This is absurd.
Petitions will just get a nothing response from the government that just recycles whatever they said in the first place. Like with ticket offices last year, public feedback and talking directly to MPs/politicians is the way to go.
ScotRail (who is also a government owned company) have removed peak tickets so that is a positive change. Given that we already have some of the most expensive fares in Europe (especially buying two flexible singles than a return). Think this might mean people would have to split tickets. In addition, (London) Kings Cross to Edinburgh is almost the same as London to Newcastle,
I'm honestly not a fan of this myself and I agree that this system would kill off train travel, Train travel is not for the rich person luxury method of train travel, this is PUBLIC Transport and should be made for the public and messing with fares like this will put a lot of people off train travel. I also did some research on this on the LNER Website for the 25th March (random date I picked to see how far you can do in advance) between London Kings Cross and Newcastle, travelling at half 8 in the morning and get into Newcastle for 11.27 cost £60 advance (no railcard) leave Newcastle at 19.02 and in London for 22.08 cost £28.90 (no Railcard) and these are prices for single advance tickets. Now if you want to use the 70 minute Flex ticket, travelling on the half 8 train will cost £80.00 (No Railcard) and that is NEARLY the price you paying for two advance singles to get you from London to Newcastle return.
This will mean more cars on the road and people turning to domestic flights between certain cities. Wonder what it’ll mean for coach firms like National Express and Megabus for example?
probably 🤑🤑🤑
It's already strongly suspected that someone high up in DfT owns First Group stock or may be connected to First Group. Otherwise how did Avanti get their contract renewed despite performing as bad if not worse than TPE who only recently went OLR.
@@mrvwbug4423 And Rishi has ties to big oil.
I went to Australia recently and i was 2hrs outside of Melbourne and it was $10 for a 2hr train journey which was like £5 its a political choice if they can find £2.5 billion to fund a war they could reduce train fares but they wont
A good point and well worth making. Personally I like how in Scotland the off-peak ticket price is now the anytime ticket price, also on trial but still no advance purchase needed, break of journey, etc still all valid. Railways and public transport should be a priority in regards to a well functioning society. Why must they make someone else money?
The peak fares are almost seemingly designed to put you off travelling on a whim. Personally I only ever buy advance fares for intercity journeys and I hope these aren’t dragged up with the lack of off peaks. The current government don’t want the railways to be developed and have no interest in modal shift, it’s all about cars for them (or a helicopter if you’re Rishi!)
Which is only going to kill off more and more of the UK that isn't London. Certain regions rely heavily on tourism and cheap rail tickets to get the tourists there, prime example is Wales.
It feels as though that the services just after and just before the peaks and some Saturdays are busier than peak journeys.
Anyway, I currently buy off peak return tickets even if they are more expensive than two advances due to the flexibility it gives. It is similar to an insurance/guarrantee policy.
I am really shocked by this choice from LNER, this ticket is really restrictive in a way where people could so easily get ripped off or fined. It only takes the type of delays we have seen so frequently of late on the Great western mainline where the power is lost to the line due to broken wires/ track or like in Scotland or the HS1 tunnel where the track was flooded in a rain storm, Eurostar was unable to run anything that day! Even the ECML hasn't been great lately. Currently tickets are valid for a day and period returns for up to a month to return, the flex ticket could improve the uncertainty from specific services and make advance tickets fairer but it is no good if you can't pick what is basically a 2 hour slot to ride the train. What happens when people get delayed? Is it tough luck buy another ticket?! It shouldn't be replacing a flexible off peak ticket. What happens if a delay means missing a connection on an infrequent line like the Whitby or Heart of Wales line? I don't think this ticketing could work on commuter or metro services either.
A trip I am doing soon is staying in Chester and exploring the North West/ Merseyside and into North Wales combining the coast and peaks rover (£60 for 4 days travel) with a normal super off peak period return from London to Tamworth (£22), I could easily have picked a specific train on the way there but would have no idea what time I would need on the way back until the day, so settled for the fixed but flexible off peak price. Removing this option is very backwards and would have made leisurely trips like mine far too difficult and expensive to bother. The fact the flex ticket is tied to advance tickets rather than a fixed price is pretty worrying too meaning there will almost certainly be loads of cases where people will be forced to pay that extortionate anytime fare. This is not making fares simpler, it is making more people pay insane prices.
A simpler fare system would have a fixed flat rate per mile (distance based) with small differences to the amount based on route taken and class. There should be no TOC only tickets apart from special offers or advance fares. There would be no peak fares. Single fares need to be made exactly half of return, I still don't understand why returns disappeared on LNER tbh. And most importantly, the flexibility needs to stay as that was always the reason I take trains, without it I may as well go back to National Express or Megabus. A coach today to Newcastle from London was just £13 with NX, the anytime train fare single almost 10 times as much, if this stands, people will just drive or fly. It's almost like government won't invest in rail capacity so lets just price people off of it!
I think this idea has been cooked up in the DfT
@@highpath4776 You're probably right, I guess we'll see if anything changes under a new government. The DFT under the Tories seems very hostile to anyone who doesn't drive.
if this is the cause I will just use the National Express coachs
simplification needs to be a national thing not just a single operator, we need simplification but not like this!
Simplest solution is to ditch the UK privatization model and adopt the railway model from the continent, state run option on all routes to ensure availability, open access private operators can choose to operate on whatever route they think will be profitable for them which should create competition on some high demand routes. That's how Spain went from the most expensive to the cheapest high speed trains in Europe.
@@mrvwbug4423 We should NOT let the terrorists (The government) run public transport until the Tories are out.
This will kill split-ticketing. Also I note that on the LNER website is says that "This new ticket type offers you a chance to change your ticket" - a chance to change the ticket - so no guarantee that it will be possible to take another train.
I love all your videos. Theres something to learn in all of them.
Thank you @JenOnTheMove for highlighting this. Great video. Depending on who people's local MPs are can I suggests a bit of variation in the responses we send them. If your MP is Labour/LibDem/Green maybe focus on impact on those on lower incomes who don't own cars + enivironmental consquences of making long train journeys less attractive vs driving or flying? If your MP is a Conservative maybe focus more on the curtailment of the inidividual's freedom to travel? Also, one think I read on a forum but isn't in your video is what the relationship is between this 70 mins "flex" tickets and the TOC's obligations to passengers under "Delay Repay" isn't this a way of getting them out of paying anything in many cases as after 70 mins delay the passenger's "flex" ticket will cease to be valid and they'll need a new, super pricey "Anytime" one? Keep up the good work.
Thanks for putting it out. I'll take it into account for my near future trips. ❤️
Oh... You have same security cam as me.... Good choice 👍😋
Stay warm and safe x
LNER to London for us in Scotland, in Aberdeen it could drive the plane fares up and more people using the only flights direct to heathrow which are BA, or they go to gatwick or luton with Easyjet.
I’m in Glasgow. Most people have moved away from rail travel to London. It has become so unreliable
@@craighobbs3708 And First Group was rewarded handsomely for running Avanti into the ground.
There is an old saying,Very apt,this is the DfT pissing on our boots and telling us it's raining.
Thankyou for getting this out there Jen.
ScotRail owned by the Scottish Government recently removed peak fares, but then increased all fares by 8.7%. They give with one hand and take with the other hand. It’s got to the point living in Inverness, I hardly use the train at all now whether that’s going to Edinburgh, Glasgow or even Aberdeen. I’m using the coach services more (at least I’m guaranteed a seat and not sitting on a brand new 50 year old train or an inappropriate 2 carriage 158 class train where the heating hardly works in the winter and the air conditioning never works in the summer)
I think it’s a total disgrace to see rail prices going up. It makes me wonder on why are we paying more to travel on trains and having to spend so much money on buying a train ticket that just costs too much. But others say it’s a great idea to put rail prices up.
Hi just viewed your ticket video and yet again your content is brilliant and yes your right we all need to band together and make sure are mp s and councillors note that we do feel this pricing us out of our railway journeys and making us either drive to where we want to go or worst take a national express coach I have always loved rail travel and your videos give me some good ideas for when I travel
Once again thank you and keep up the good work you do for us
Well presented Jen we need to fight this one to the death Many Thanks
Also advance tickets aren't worth the hassle anymore, outside of the strikes, there is a lot of disruption from poor maintainence, far too unreliable now to commit to anything outside off peak fares.
Can’t believe this is even happening, its already bad enough with the strikes happening nearly every month, this price change could change how people ride Trains, absolute disgrace
Its utterly ridiculous
Ive seen people complain on twitter/X that off peak/super off peak are difficult to understand which baffles me...... all you need is to be able too tell the time!
Excellent video Jen on highlighting a very big problem that LNER are going to introduce, which could spread further !
As someone once stated. The railway shouldn't be a profit organisation, it shouldn't make a profit. The roads don't make money. The roads don't make a profit
Brilliant video!
Its quite simple Jen; If the price is too high, I SIMPLE WON'T TRAVEL BY TRAIN; I got a Disabled railcard and enjoy travelling by train for a day somewhere (I live in Co Durham) But if its too costly I'll use my bus pass more often;; And I think the Government wants to destroy the railways;
Partner and I are moving to London this year, if there are no cheap tickets left would be £378.60 EACH for an open return up to Preston. Last time we went (this was off peak and with a railcard was just over £60). As neither of us drive we’d have to resort back to the coach which leaves at the most inconvenient times and takes forever.
That's insane. I literally just paid a fair bit less than that for two first class tickets on Avanti between London and Crewe.
@@mrvwbug4423 Would be only a grand for the both of us in first class. Problem is all the family is up here so won’t be once a year trips (we have 2 nieces under 18 months, well niece 1 is 18 months tomorrow).
Going by car is not valid either: Queues! Damned if you do, damned if you dont... :-(
People will quite simply stop using the train.....or is that the intention? Then, Beeching 2!
Meanwhile Luxembourg: Our Transport is absolutely free
This will be a stupid new system and definitely not want there describing as simple. Fare enough anytime tickets which are supposed be half the price now if you are to buy an anytime single + anytime single with anytime return tickets being removed. But getting rid of off peak flexible tickets and replacing them with 70 minute flex tickets is stupid. I agree Jen this has to be stopped.
Thanks for this Jen - absolutely needs to be stopped. So fed up with this gas guzzling government!
There are those of us who can't just resort to cars too, who totally rely on public transport. Thanks Jen for raising this issue 🤔
At this rate the fine for not having a ticket will be cheaper than the ticket
I quite like the idea of the 70 minute fare - for long trips like Scotland to London I wouldn't travel on an off peak ticket anyway since it would still be extortionate, the 70 minute one is a nice option as an advance ticket with a bit of flexibility.
But this is not an excuse to scrap off peak fares, I can easily see how many people might rely on them - they should offer both options. Getting rid of off peak fares in the name of 'simplification' is definitely dodgy
ive become far too spoiled with london and its fares where i know that whatever journey i make would always come under £5 i dont know how the people who live anywhere else in the uk can use their trains with the shocking prices i see
This appeals to be the thin end of a very sinister wedge by the DFT / LNER. Taking away the flexibility for the fare paying passenger unless they can afford the prohibitively expensive anytime single fare will just put people off travelling by train. I suspect the treasury may have a hand in this, reduced demand for rail travel means reduced need to spend money on new trains and infrastructure upgrades
Added to their feedback. How come Europe has €49 for all travelling in Germany. Bring back the weekend return. Nationalise the lot
Spot on Jen, and I had already posted my feedback to LNER on Bluesky, stating what an absolute rip off it is.
The Semi-Flex will be £20 above whatever the advance is at the time, meaning that will also rise and no guarantee of pricing - unlike off peak where you know what price it is, you can buy it on the day and you know you can effectively be spontaneous as you need to.
Think also that passengers who use assistance / wheelchair users etc would lose out - the 70 min flexibility won't always be enough due to other access fails across the public transport network so forcing them to buy Anytime would be also unfair (and potentially disrciminatory.)
Everyone needs to feed back ASAP and by the sound of it David Horne of LNER has been getting a right constructive kicking online in responses, basically stating this is a bad idea. Which it is.
Passengers will flood onto National Express, Megabus and Flixbus - especially for medium distance trips
If fares between London and Edinburgh/ Glasgow become hundreds of pounds. Then, flying someone like easyJet will become the mode of choice between London and Edinburgh/ Glasgow
The LNER has started its pilot scheme to simplify the complicated fare structure that a simple website or ticket machine cannot handle, only a ticket office clerk has the expertise to prevent you from paying through the nose. (The scheme started on the 5th Feb)
You estimated that the fares from London to Newcastle will double, at present a single fare from London to Newcastle costs £140 a return trip will cost in total £280!!!!
According to the LNER website, the prices will be determined by demand, surge pricing like Uber. The LNER financial report states that its profits are up 22/23 and the government subsidy LNER is down, the financial burden of the railways is increasingly shifted onto the consumer.
I believe that the government will deem the pilot scheme a success and roll it out to all the Train Operating Companies. (TOCs). The fare structure will be so simplified that a stupid ticket machine or website will get the price right, thereby decreasing the need for ticket offices and saving money.
I'd find it hard to travel to Newcastle as the cost is prohibitive. How many others are in the same situation? In comparison travelling by car, coach or even plane might prove cheaper? Though not environmentally friendly
I travel for football once or twice a month from London. With tv companies moving games left, right and centre and train travel becoming more expensive I am looking for alternatives whether it is driving or even flying (London to Newcastle). It is becoming cheaper and simpler to do these alternative forms and I love the railway.
Just a brilliant explanation of this Jen, well said and put. Because of where I am, we have 3 companies (Avanti, XC and Northern) charging essentially 2 prices between £5.80 and £11.80, normal class. So essentially to get to Manchester for me would be, if this rolls out nationally be either £11.60 or £23.60 based on double pricing. If anyone does set up a petition over this, i'll freely sign it and share it.
You're right, this will drive people away from train travel. There was always going to be a massive hike once they changed their minds about closing ticket offices. It's a scandal. How the hell will anyone be able to afford it? Train fares in this country are already at eye-watering levels and unaffordable for many, if not most. We are the laughing stock of the rest of Europe (and they, by and large, have cheaper, better, modern and more comfortable railway infrastructures). The whole situation makes me very angry. Well done on highlighting this.
this is a very important video, one I will be sharing 👍👍
Travel by rail is finished in this country. Prices going through the roof. I travel in Europe a lot. Prices are much cheaper and service is way more efficient. Railway use is in decline following COVID. Strikes have proven that train services are unreliable.
I feel it's the slow decline of the railways
4:45 thats redicolous!!!
Just bunk it like I've been doing for 15 years.😊
Maybe they're trying to get a final bit of profit before they all end up nationalised.
Good grief! Unfortunately government in waiting are no better either. What a mess.
Not a fan of this new system at all, if implemented then it will cost double what it currently cost to get anywhere from Leicester for example to get from Leicester to St Austell currently cost around £200 at least on a return and would cost me at least £400 on a return in the new system if implemented. We deffo need to stop this from happening.
I couldn’t agree more with how absurd this system already is. No one needs it to be even more stressful than it already is.
i feel like that people will either take the west cost mainline to scotland or lumo
A great video, and you've absolutely captured my fury with this nonsense!
Removing any "Off Peak" ticket means removing off peak travellers. Removing off peak travellers means removing off peak trains. Removing off peak trains means removing staff. Off Peak travel used to be a number one issue towards the end of the British Rail era and it was the same at the outset of privatisation - they needed to fill the trains! LNER are way out of order; this appears to be yet another political disaster.
Thanks, Jen. Really useful video. I haven't used the trains for several years,for various reasons. However after watching this, I am having second thoughts. Slight double standards when I thought the move was to encourage travel by different modes not to deter people. May be I got it wrong(!)
What about international tourists who are trying to keep to a budget and that’ll be bad for tourism as well tourists use the trains cause they think they are cheap
It is the same here in Connecticut outside of NYC. Fares are going up, and number of trains going down. It is faster and cheaper to drive. New York City itself is trying to push people to take the train by raising tolls. But, people are moving out instead.
we need a cheap reliable railway not a cash cow for the greedy shysters,and failed politicians who have made a disastrous mess of the railways,peace and very best wishes jen...............................jpj
The LNER ticket is interesting , at present just to three stations plus London to those three stations. I understand you can buy OP returns say London to the Next non participating station maybe being cheaper overall, etc
yes- I read this and the reasons dont make sense
I'd be interested to know what the metrics are for knowing if this has been a success/not, as I haven't seen any comms around that.
i think she's right
Apparently we are a nation of drivers. I WONDER WHY?! Disgusting proposal. We already have some of the most expensive rail fares in Europe. How many times can in unvote for the Conservatives? 🤬
Different train company (EMR), but when I was in London last year I took the train to an event at Sywell Aerodrome. Research suggested St. Pancras to Wellingborough was a good way to get there. The ticket machine refused to sell me a round-trip ticket, and charged me £are-you-f**king-kidding for the trip. With nothing to lose I came back Northampton to Euston for a fraction of what the outbound trip cost me, even including the longer taxi ride.
I had looked at renting a car for the day. It might actually have been cheaper.
Looked at taking myself, the missus and her sister to York (from Manchester) for the day on the train. Cheapest was £84. My car will use about half that amount of money in petrol.
How much would a Telford Central to Birmingham New Street ticket cost with the new price? Not good at the maths unfortunately.
LNER you can only buy before hand as they have insisted in reservations.
I go to London on Grand Central
A very well presented video .. as always.
Will advance fares be affected too, or just the 'standard" priced walk-on tickets?
On paper, no
In reality, I bet we'll see less advances available, especially at the lower tiers
@@JenOnTheMove Many thankls for your reply. I'll write to my MP today. An email is easy, but a written letter means his team will have to reply using a stamp too .. I think traditional 'paper letters' have more effect than an email.
Update .. letter sent !
This is the one real reason to why everywhere is not cheap on the railways, some people won't want to do those stuff because of how expensive they are these days. Real sad.
And this is just another reason why I think LNER are the worst operator going. There is now not a day where those won’t don’t come down, Knackered track or knackered trains.
I am suggesting vote green in most places if you think your vote wont count any other way.
Ticketing canve simple . All we need is advance (upto day before) Peak . Off Peak and super off peak all with there time clearly definied
petition for the uk government to follow the ticketing model from other railways instead of trying to push this 'revolutionizing' bullcrap
Another ridiculous policy that's going to push people with the choice of using cars for their journey to do that (it's already at the point where that's sometimes worth considering as a viable alternative), and those who don't will probably end up using coaches or even flying. Bad for the environment - Sunak won't care about that, of course.
Ideal Simplification: Ban operator specific tickets other then Advance fares, and maybe season tickets. This would end a lot of problems rather then going into this nightmarish system. The British Railways are going into another serious decline and we need to fix this.
More examples near me(Comparing Off peak Day returns to 2x anytime singles):
Norwich-Sheringham(My most routine route): Now: £10.50(Already steep compared to the £4 bus return) Then: £18.40. Norwich Cambridge: Now: £22.10 Then:£44
Norwich-London Liverpool Street: Now: £65.80 Then:£162
Norwich-Manchester Piccadilly: Now:£142.20(Off peak return [Within 1 month]) Then: £231.80
These fares are insane, just another half arsed money making technique by toc's and the government.
N.W.G.F.F.O.B.S. I have done the sums........264km. aprox Manchester to London 368 (sterling) thats Aus$706.56
264km from my home gets you to the Manning River at Taree Train costs $43Aus economy $65Aus first class (UK 22.36-33.80)
A difference of Uk 334.20 (Aus$641.66) at that cost Why Not Fly ? Who has shares in "The Airlines?"♥ Love Ya Jen From Aus.
The supposed "simplification" has confused the heck out of me. 🤷
If this goes ahead, this will probably push me off the trains for good. Crosscountry is already unreliable as is and quite costly (Leading me to have to take GWR and be on a rammed 165 one or two stops down sometimes, praying i can connect at Bristol Parkway or Filton Abbey Wood) , so any cost increases may just push me to getting a car and driving to where i want to go, as i cant do where i live - Newport (Wales) on National express, even if that would be free (via discounts due to family), as its too inconvinent on timings and where i want to go, with a few changes needed.
Looks like I'm gonna stop any thought of long distance train travel, and put off considering more local journeys.
I haven't done any long-distance train travel recently, because only with the petrol prices at their peak a year ago, it was cheaper for me to drive myself. And adding a passenger, it ended up being half the price per person for me to drive. Not to mention, driving is easier with more than a single bag of luggage (I often end up taking instruments or model trains places, so the train is so awkward).
Public transport is no longer "public" if the public cannot afford to use it.
Thats not good i normal pay like 3.74 from Starcross to Exeter with railcard do you thing it will go high then?
100% agree with you, Jen. Without doubt this is a stealth move towards a massive rise in fares, a nudge from the Government to other less environmentally friendly modes and just a general pricing people out of long distance travel. Suggest a petition is created for this to be debated in parliament. It’s not only about the 1 in 10 people who buy super/ off peak tickets currently, it’s about having an affordable choice to do that if ever needed. If I was in Yorkshire for example and needed to go to London urgently due to family reasons I’m already charged a significant amount as you alluded to… but it’s easier to stomach than the anytime fare. It also takes away huge spontaneous plans away from people because of the lack of refund - how is that good for the economy? We need fewer barriers not additional ones. How is this good for passengers if it was carried through from this trial to other operators?
Tories have been trying to kill UK rail since Thatcher. Sunak is nothing but a predatory billionaire who's trying to line his pockets before he retires and fucks off to some tax shelter country. Tories let HS2 become a bloated dysfunctional blob of corruption by design because they wanted it to fail so they could use it as an excuse to finish killing off UK rail.
There's never enough money for lower prices, higher wages, better conditions, improved maintenance, but there's always money for executive raises and bonuses and the government is even worse in all regards, probably just wanting to pocket it all and give it away to contractors that won't even deliver any of the ordered product/services. OR: they intentionally make services inaccessible financially to a lot of people to justify cutting services so the automobile industry makes more money in the long run.
I make journeys all over the country, regularly - As do many other enthusiasts, and not all of us have an infinite budget.
The way I see it, a double in average costs will make it completely unviable for me to travel by rail, even with a 16-25 railcard, So if this does happen, It will be back to coaches only for myself outside of local journeys, which really is a shame, as I really do think our railways deserve better.
Thanks for putting us in the picture, Jen.
I'm all for simplifying ticketing, here, but not when we all get turned over with price hikes of this magnitude.
Every cloud, though... General Election this year.
guess i wont be using trains anymore.
Jen look up the story splashed by The Guardian ~ ‘Free money!’ Avanti West Coast bosses caught joking about UK government handouts
I travel to Manchester regularly from Exeter, the best I can do is £90 return (split tickets and disabled railcard) and that's expensive enough, I used to go by plane (quicker and cheaper) but they've stopped those :( For those of you who can drive, it's almost cheaper to pick up a banger off Fb market place and drive to your destination, if the car only does a couple of trips you've saved money, its madness, utter madness.
Train travel in Spain, France, Germany and Italy is superb. Britain is broken. Well done Tory/UKIP. 😡
The amount of times I have tried to travel somewhere with a friend, but they don’t have a railcard, is painful. Especially if they are excluded from discounts due to their age. Every time this happens we end up driving instead.
I think railcards are keeping new riders from using the railways and only exist because tickets are so expensive without a discount. They should be high on the list of things that need eliminating - then replaced with a simpler mechanism that isn’t exclusionary.
Perhaps after railcards are gone we can deal with the off-peak issue better.
Exactly. It's like everything they come up with lately is just going to lead people away from the railways.
The bus companies will win in this.
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