It would be cool if there was a character trophy system like from the Batman Arkham games. You beat the boss and you unlock the model for viewing at the home screen.
Somethings that occurred to me while watching this: Beyond being consumed, Gwyndolin's body looks sickly, with plague-like spots. Yorshka mentions him falling ill before Sulyvhan wrongfully claims himself Pontiff. I think it's very likely that Sulyvhan was somehow poisoning Gwyndolin to prime him for Aldrich to consume. Further, Gwyndolin's corpse being puppeted by Aldrich is wearing a twisted version of Gwyndolin's original robes, bearing Cathedral of the Deep adornments, and a distorted staff and headpiece. My idea is that either the process by which Alrich consumes a god has transformative metaphysical powers which affected the items, or they were made for him to commemorate his ascent to Godhood, probably by Sulyvhan, and possibly forged by one of the giant slaves in plentiful supply in Irithyl, as their rough and malevolent shape are a far cry from the work of the giant blacksmith we find dead in Anor Londo.
Yeah now that you mention it, what happened to him between the games. different staff,robes,crown, he doesn't even use his bow to cast the rain of arrows,yet you the player can the bow with Aldrich's soul?
Well no the staff is said to be a imperfect replica of Gwyndolins original catalyst,as you can find one above pontiffs boss arena. It was given as a gift, but nothing can compare to the perfection of old. The crown probably follows the same logic. Also his clothes are just new ones, it has floral patterns and gold so I doubt it is from the cathedral. Also considering he was locked in the chamber for who knows how long stuff like his long nails could just be from no proper grooming.
Another fun fact about Aldritch is that, besides the intro cutscene, he has no individual cutscene. There's one for the Abyss Watchers, Lorian and Lothric, even Yhorm if you complete Siegward's questline. Aldritch just... doesn't have one
People: Gwyndolin was wearing the reversal ring to give himself boobs! Other people: No! The ring doesn’t give you tits! Me: He was wearing one of his sisters bras!
don't forget Gwyndolin has illusion magic Gwynevere, talking and seeing us, reacting to us. An illusory wall that cannot even be broken without a special ring even Ornstein in the O&S bossfight is theorized to be an illusion what's a pair of illusory boobs to him?
@@mightytaco123 Yes, because lighting the Fire keeps his world going, and he was trying to keep everything stable. Like it was a dick move but it wasn't done for evil reasons simple a guy trying to stop everything he knew from falling to bits.
@@4wheal Plus, we all know Gwyndolin had some daddy issues. Upholding the age of fire was one of the few things he KNEW, would make his father happy, so he devoted himself to it even after everyone, including his sister, fucked off and left Anor Londo.
Think it might just be a mockery of Gwyndolin in DS3 since he's all gnarly and shit. The metal seems organic and uneven instead of the handcrafted stuff you see him wear in DS1.
In DS1 Gwyndolin has breasts. In DSIII he doesn't. Knowing that he's a master of illusions because of the infinite hallway during his boss fight and the illusion of light and his sister... He probably made himself Illusionary breasts.
the three theories I've heard is yours, that they were illusory, that this is an effect of taking off his ring, or that the figure we can see isn't gwyndolin
13:03 I always thought it must have been an oversight that the statue depicted Gwyn as already burned. Also kinda funny that they made Gwynevere's gazongas slightly larger in DS3 lol
The model for those statues are clearly just the regular models of those characters reskinned, so they just didn't bother giving Gwyn a slightly different face, or just forgot about it.
@@cumchungus8841 sure maybe that second half, but DS2 and 3… idk what’s happened but I have come to hate them after a while. I hated 2 anyway and wasn’t sold on 3 when I played it but I’ve come back to listen to lore and it’s just annoying me how they finished it all off 😂
Gywndolin has boobs in ds1 because his model was originally for Gwyn's wife, the Queen. They just repurposed the model once that character was cut. He also looks gangly and elongated in ds3 because aldritchs final model was hacked together out of lothric's model and a man grub once they decided not to go with Aldrich's original boss fight. It would've taken place where the deacons of the deep fight is in the final game and it would've involved eldritch striking at you from his coffin in the center. That's why the deacons fight is underwhelming and the arena for it is so huge
People act like this game is so intricate, that the developers took a lot of time to be super detailed with the game, but the more you dig, the more you realize how cobbled together it was.
Fromsoft repurposes assets all the time and writes new story around them which is fine, that's common practice in the industry. But DS3 suffers the worst from it
@@lordfarquaad8601 right, because that was concept art for the queen. Gywndolin as a character probably wasn't conceived at the concept art stage, they just reused the model they already had when they came up with him / decided not to go with whatever they were going to do
Regarding Gwyndolin, i also noted some interesting aspect about his physical appearance between both Dark Souls, in the case of Dark Souls 3, if you looks carefully Gwyndolin's body, ignoring the Aldritch's sludge, you can notes that Gywndolin is visibly more larger and has more longer arms, in comparison with his version of Dark Souls 1, as if this detail was to show how older became Gwyndolin between both games, especially as Dark Souls 3 takes place a millennia after the events of Dark Souls 1.
Yeah he would be significantly taller with actual legs showing that Gwynevere born in the age of fires prime could certainly be as large as the illusion
I thought this was supposed to be caused by Aldritch as a means to defend himself from the Ashen one (supposedly we arrive just in the middle of Aldritch devouring him), literally defiling his corpse and using it .
I thought this was supposed to be caused by Aldritch as a means to defend himself from the Ashen one (supposedly we arrive just in the middle of Aldritch devouring him), literally defiling his corpse and using it .
To be honest he could’ve just left an illusion of himself with memories and left to go find he’s siblings. I like this idea more because Aldrich when ever he would be done he would realize it was a fake and just eat Pontiff for lying to him.
Only because I wouldn't wish his fate, being devoured by Aldritch, on my worst enemy. But bro had to go. He was one of the last fragments of Gwyn's kingdom. He was the last one defending Anor Londo.
@@eren5148 I mean objectively he was making the world worse, but if you think about it from his perspective, he was just trying to save his family. Being born into that family, protecting them and his extended empire/age of fire would've been all he knew. Basically, from his perspective, he was doing the right thing, so imo he definitely didn't deserve the fate he received. But then, I feel like that punishment would've been way too harsh for almost anyone lol, but hey that's Dark souls, 70% of the cast get subjected unjustly to endless pain and torment.
Always loved the fact that in DS1 he has boobs (7:33) because he was forced to wear the reversal ring, while in DS3 he has a flat chest (9:16) because he finally embraced his role as king of Irithyll and the gods, and we found the ring discarded in the Darkmoon tomb, what a great little detail
Reversal ring doesn't give you breasts nor changes your body type, just your animations. This isn't a technical limitation as gender swapping was already a thing in Dark Souls 2. In 3 he looks incredibly emaciated (No fat for breast tissue) and with thin long arms, which could be justified as the consequences of being devoured and used as a puppet warping him, or a design change.
We have to remember that "time itself is convoluted, with heroes centuries old phasing in and out." There's a lot of details between each of the Dark Souls games that both prove and disprove any chronological order. For years, my headcanon has been the idea that the Gwyndolin of DS1 is an alternate timeline version of the Gwyndolin of DS3, where both had slightly different facial and body features. Alternatively, Gwyndolin's partial corpse in DS3 could appear so radically different due to Aldrich consuming/changing Gwyndolin. Perhaps, as much as Aldrich is gaining power, Gwyndolin's remaining body is being changed and morphed. Or, as you say, perhaps magic or artifacts are at play. Maybe Gwyndolin is a shapeshifter, somewhat like mythological Loki in the Norse pantheon, or maybe the Ring of Reversal has a significantly stronger effect on the intended bearer - that being, Gwyndolin. Personally, I think it's a mixture of the three.
@@khajiitimanus7432 Nothing to do with you but I'm so tired of that quote being used to justify anything in the lore when it was clearly meant to only justify the online play elements. You're free to have any head canon you like, I merely provided opposing evidence. Forgot to mention, who would be forcing him to wear the ring in Dark Souls 1? As he's the only figure of authority in Anor Londo left.
@@MinecraftSpongeT Respectfully, if you think that quote was merely justification for game mechanics, you're just fundamentally wrong. Smough, Aldrich, and the Chosen Undead prove this. Regardless, there's no point arguing the matter. Either you acknowledge the facts and agree, or you don't and then opt to disagree, in which case it's futile to continue this topic. As for your other question - I never said anyone was forcing Gwyndolin to wear the ring. Thus, I do not have an answer for you.
@@MinecraftSpongeT the reversal ring does not change the body type of *the player*. It's gameplay issue, not a in universe fact. Just like clutching some pieces of Velka's hair would never be viable in fighting, but for gameplay it work without problem. - Indoctrination is just as powerful as any fighting hand. He stayed in his father's tomb whithout being forced, too, kept the illusions up and remained there. but in the end Irythill's existence and fact that he stopped using the ring are enough proof that he had ambitions outside of Anor Londo. We don't know his reasons but the fact that he moved means that did have reasons both to stay and to leave Edit:format
It looks a lot rougher and less detailed than the original. Could be intepreted as a physical representive methaphor of the fall from grace the old gods experienced.
I never noticed how much of a combination gwendoline might be. I know he uses Priscilla's and Nito's attacks, but it kinda looks like parts of them remain, if we assume he did devour them too. The bones of bodies where the snakes were. The skirt kind of like a ragged old version of Priscilla's dress. Probably not, but an interesting thought. Anyway... He is one of the most tragic characters to me by the 3rd game. It was certainly a shock to see him again my first playthrough. To be left behind (willing or not) by your family and have to keep up appearances in a dead, dark city of the past. All the whille knowing it's a lie. Then to be slowly eaten alive as you watch the city you fought to protect grow ever darker. A god now down to nothing more than an unwilling puppet. Not sure how much of him is left to know or feel his long demise. I always thought his moans were of constant agony. Likely a relief to him to have his suffering end.
Unfortunately, he’s still alive. His moans are from the pain being consumed slowly. After he’s completely dead, Aldrich (glob monster consuming him) will use his corpse as he wishes.
He didn't devour them too. We as the Ashen Ones get drawn into this mess as soon as the revived lords go rogue. This is why you can literally follow a trail of Aldrich. We are basically chasing his "footsteps," just a little bit behind each lord's path. Basically we are Plan C, and an emergency one at that, rushed into dealing with the Lords so we can fix the world. As such all Aldrich had time to do was go devour Gwyndolin (and hilariously miss Rosaria/Gertrude hidden within his own territory). Had he devoured Priscilla we would have seen a trail of Aldrich ooze into the painting. The game is quite clear as to actually what is happening though. While he is devouring and puppeteering Gwyndolin Aldrich dreamt of the other gods, and is creating miracles based on those memories. Nito's Blade of Death and Priscilla's Lifehunt Scythe are just facsimiles created from the dream. That's why we can only acquire the scythe as a "miracle." Also, hilariously since we as the protagonist got there so quickly we literally interrupted his meal. Aldrich functions like a snake in that he is lethargic while digesting Gwyndolin, and the process of digestion takes a good bit of time... So basically we fought a weakened Aldrich, which is par for the course in Souls. Were he to finish devouring Gwyndolin the fight would have been far, far more harrowing. As for Priscilla, well... Technically she is in the game. The painting is a refurbishment of the original, which means that many of the residents have literally been reborn in the image unconsciously designed by Ariandel. The Corvians are just Velka's followers repainted, and fully explain that the world has to be remade or it rots away. As such, the Painter is basically a repainting of Priscilla. She speaks of a Mother, but that Mother she keeps talking about is Gwynevere, who as the goddess of birth would be able to teach her daughter the process of making a new world. This is hinted at a few visual ways in the game: the rotating statue of Gwynevere and young Priscilla leading to the boss room and the Corvians worshipping places the "Queen of Lothric" (Gwynevere) has visited. The basic irony of the DLC is Priscilla is ousted by her own followers because their memory of Priscilla is used by Friede, as she mimics Priscilla's original form. Priscilla's only true follower at that point is Gael, who was a slave knight from the Age of the Gods assigned to watch over her. To sum it all up, Priscilla is actually in the game alive but recreated into a young girl by the Painted World being altered. She, like the Corvian we speak to, has her memories intact and uses her knowledge to ask us to help her create a new world. The "body" in the Ariandel boss room is actually just made of wood, snake skin, wolf fur, and a statue head. Aldrich didn't even have time to go find Priscilla, although he did envision her as a "young girl" while dreaming. So he saw her in dreams but failed to nab her for his next meal. By the way, funnily enough with Priscilla this was the third time Miyazaki tried to make a child version of an existing character. The first two were Beatrix and the Emerald Herald, but this was the time he finally succeeded and got that child version in-game, albeit via DLC.
@Nachal'nik Rosaria is her daughter Gertrude, you can tell by the wax in her hair from the Grand Archives. She was held in that cage above the Archive and rescued by her followers (another link being the Man Grub up there in the rafters). Gertrude is a goddess of similar purview to her mother Gwynevere (who is confirmed via item description to be the Queen of Lothric), but instead of birth she is the goddess of rebirth. Gwynevere herself, as per item description, pulled her same disappearing act as in Dark Souls 1 and simply left to some unknown location before the events of the game(but not before leaving Divine Blesssings in certain places). Gertrude however was captured by the scholars at the Grand Archive where they experimented on her. She was subjected to horrible torment and experimentation, and they even removed her tongue (and perhaps eyes too). She is a tortured emaciated mess by the time the Fingers save her and spirit her away to where you eventually find her. The irony of Rosaria's Fingers is they are the least evil of the red invader covenants, and Kirk returned as a Finger to display this. Bringing her the Tongues relieved her suffering, which Kirk was big on with the Fair Lady. His inclusion was deliberate to show that the Fingers, although evil in action, were trying to help their goddess. Though, mind you some of them like Heysel were just addicted to being reborn.
@@SpacePirateLord Oh thank goodness,that puts me more at ease knowing that Priscilla is actually alive and well and turned out to be the painter all along 😸 Thank you very much for your amazing lore knowledge 😸
My headcanon of Aldrich eating Gwyndolin Gwyndolin: Oh, are you not slimy friend of Sulyvahn? Thanks for visit but I'm bit sick lately so it would be delightful if you let me continue my rest. Aldrich: * slurp slurp* *çaŋ ī płəª§ə ɓīţə ª çĥųŋƙ øųţ ƴő ª§§*
when ds3 came out, there was this (unintentionally) hilarious vid where some guy was absolutely flipping his lid about the “fact” that he thought that the gwyndolin part on alrdrich was just aldrich and not actually gwyndolin. he yelled about how it was absurd people were saying, in his words, “aldrich had ‘puppet powers’” and he was getting quite incensed over the whole thing. i can’t find it anymore, which leads me to believe the guy was 100% serious and deleted out of embarrassment… which is a shame, cuz boy was it funny watching someone absolutely lose their mind over a video game.
I'm really kind of sad with DS3's presentation, DS1 perfectly portrayed a dying world through its atmosphere and enemy designs. DS3 resorts to cheap tricks like corpses that jumpscare you in irithyll dungeon and squishy viscera in Anor Londo to try and get the same feeling. DS1 will always be the best DS
@@TheSilly6403 I always hated how DS3 just brought back locations from DS1 explicitly. DS2 having almost no physical overlap (the only one i can think of being the old chaos) was great
I never noticed that the Gwyn statue in the first game portrays him as already "cindered". How interesting. Thanks for this video, it's a great comparison. And it doubles as a little reminder how hard DSR fails in some visual areas - the flatness of the metallics kills me, lol.
don't give them ideas... they still have time to go back on Shadow of the Erdtree and do Miquella's boss fight with 6 Ulcerated Tree Spirits as his feet
did you know how long I was looking for an explanation of how his snake legs work? thank you for making this video! you earned a sub at the very moment we got no horny bonked by Vergil.
Honestly with the fact aldrich ate gyndolin i feel like aldrich is just using his upper half as a puppet in a similar way the butterflys do with the dragonslayer armour. But if aldrich gains a little bit of a design peice from who he devours am i the only one who thinks judging by his design the aldrich might have also ate nito
You know, looking at how different their faces, hair clothes and masks are, id say thats not even Gwyndolin. Somehow I think that's Aldrich mockingly replicating Gwyndolin. His mask is not erroded, it's a completely different mask. I think people, or at least me, had the idea that Aldrich was the lower half, and we could only see half of Gwyndolin, but even so his proportions are all wrong, so what if Aldrich wasn't just eating him whole like a snake as much as masquerading as him?
The clothes that Aldrich wears... that looks a lot like it could belong to the deep, with juwelry that is remiscent of that. 2 possibilities Here for me Either Saint Aldrich was wearing this before he fused with Nito, Priscilla and Gwyndolin and thats just his part of the body. Or Gwyndolin was forced to wear this as mockery like the thorncrown of jesus. Maybe they put it on his corpse. Thats a terrible thought.
Someone in the comments said it could be that during the milennia between ds1 and ds3, Gywndolin stopped wearing his crown. And once Aldritch starts eating him and absorbing his knowledge, he has his corpse wear the crown as Gwyndolin remembers, the crown as shown in ds3, which is what vague memory he has of it left.
Gwyndolin would not have know his crown in vivd detail because it probably was not out of his head often, then he founded Irythil and (by the way the statues look, he stopped wearing that) left the crown behind. When Aldritch starts eating him and takes the knowledge from his memories, the knowledge of Yorshka, of his bow art and of old the Crown. And that's why in DS3 his crown looks like a hazy, dilapidated thing. That's the best ALdritch could parse from his memory My other theory is that Gwyndolin was a son to both Seath and Gwyn. We have no information about what makes Gwyn a god apart from his Light Soul, or how he reproduced, there are no mentions to a wife (apart from Filianore, but that was scrapped and she was turned into a daughter). Gwyndolin could very well be some egg hatched experiment. Seath only keeps girls around (namely, the Pisaca), Gwyn would not want this Moon tuned draconian child to be too connected with his precious Sun. Too useful to squander when Gwynever fled and Nameless/Faraam/Gwynsen was exiled, but not worthy of being showcased either. Raise him in conveninent womanly ways, put the last hopes to the Fire on his shoulders and fuck off to find immortality/link the Fire.
ipeople have tried to make a family tree, it's possible gwyndolin is son of gwyn and priscilla, with priscilla being seath's daughter (maybe with velka or gwinevere)
@@Sercroc It's far more likely that Priscilla is related to Gwyn, possibly his granddaughter. Because she is called an "illegitimate child", which implies royalty.
@@Sercroc I really need to go through the Japanese wiki and find hidden stuff that you can't find through the English text... Each page on the English wikis should have a translation section to make things a lot easier...
@@Tasorius yeah good thing there ar eyoutubers that do the job for us. That said, i just take it a sa possibility, but it checks, she is white and half dragon, so seath being her father is there, and they could have kille dher but decided to close her in th epainting, wich is all velka related, and gwindolin is pretty much doing velka's work with the darkmoons. Mnay things check and make it interesting for me
Gwyndolin, in my opinion, was very wasted in DS3. It would be nice if killing Aldrich would free Gwyndolin's body and be able to interact with him (even if he later died). I could give some interesting dialogues making references to the former glory of Anor Londo, references to DS1's Chosen Undead or something about Yorshka (she deserved to leave that tower, be happy and free). It's a shame.
Gwyndolin deserved better in lore, he looks and sounds so sad in ds3 😞 Also the fact they modeled 6 different snakes for him, love it! I’m happy we’re getting another gangly snake boy to carry on his legacy in the elden ring DLC
•the endless gender argument ultimately seems silly and trivializing, hes much more ambiguous than that. i think the intent was to create more of a hermaphroditus-like figure, being of both and neither sexes (which i think gwyn purposefully misconstrues, perhaps to remove his unorthodox child from the line of succession). •still he adopts a more masculine role in ds3 as the succeeding all-father, by casting off his fathers expectations, reshaping anor londo/irithyll in his own twilit image. definitely favorite fromsoft character
and though his design is inherently sexual, its unfortunate that such a complex + influential character is subject to constant mockery and fetishization
i think part of it is because fromsoft really designed him in a sexual way , as if the game fetishizes the character , also he badly falls into the trope of " Looks like a girl but actually is a boy" so i doubt the fandom would take him seriously when the game developers failed to do so
@@eren5148 eroticism is not necessarily exploitative nor should it be dismissed as a unserious facet in a character's portrayal. gwyndolin's design cleverly/compellingly [imo] utilizes psychosexual apollonian/dionysian imagery - sun/moon dichotomy, masculine austere+priestly demeanor with feminine wisplike+unearthly allure [traditionally/mythologically speaking]. the serpent legs are at once both overtly phallic AND chimerical + androgynous. when i speak of fetishism i talk of those who eschew these traits solely in favor of their ultrasubmissive, nymphomaniac, pornographic fantasies
and while i may read a bit too deeply into it, these classical archetypes are so deeply ingrained into the collective consciousness of present+past as to make incorporation of them unavoidable - especially in a game that so often interprets and alters world mythology to concieve its own story
@@horserotorvator extremely correct take IMO (this is part of why i love Gwyndolin as a non-binary person, but i certainly wouldn't presume the character "belongs" exclusively to any of the many possible interpretations people are arguing about endlessly here - I think the ambiguity is fine [and beautiful] on its own merits, even if it's not the sort of thing universally associated with beauty, the sublime, or the divine anymore)
lol gwyndolin has human thighs that connect to the snakes but the model for them looks super weird😆 I think there’s a cool boundary break video that shows em
эй, почему на арене в дс1 нельзя подойти и обнять, сказать все хорошо мальчик, я с тобой, я тобой горжусь, а потом пойти в горнило душ возжечь пламя и попросить Гвиндолина беречь себя
Gwyndolin:"Im actually a boy!"
Gwyn: "NOT NOW SWEETIE!"
sir, what about seath?
@@mr.mangles8730 "What about what?"
*sexual grunts of unsatisfaction
@@starfallentertainment9131 [Van Halen - Why can't this be love?]
@@randomthoughts6680 heavy panting and science noises.
wish we had the option to see his model in game without triggering a boss fight, it’s so well designed.
It would be cool if there was a character trophy system like from the Batman Arkham games. You beat the boss and you unlock the model for viewing at the home screen.
There’s a cheat
Yeah i always wanted a beastiary like in hollow knight or something, instead of just reading their lore on souls
From doesnt do it because it would just show how ugly their games are
@@CrimsonBladezzYou’re getting jumped
It’s so heartbreaking that you can still hear Gwyndolin screaming when he’s fighting you in DS3, just sad to know he’s in so much agony
Somethings that occurred to me while watching this: Beyond being consumed, Gwyndolin's body looks sickly, with plague-like spots. Yorshka mentions him falling ill before Sulyvhan wrongfully claims himself Pontiff. I think it's very likely that Sulyvhan was somehow poisoning Gwyndolin to prime him for Aldrich to consume. Further, Gwyndolin's corpse being puppeted by Aldrich is wearing a twisted version of Gwyndolin's original robes, bearing Cathedral of the Deep adornments, and a distorted staff and headpiece. My idea is that either the process by which Alrich consumes a god has transformative metaphysical powers which affected the items, or they were made for him to commemorate his ascent to Godhood, probably by Sulyvhan, and possibly forged by one of the giant slaves in plentiful supply in Irithyl, as their rough and malevolent shape are a far cry from the work of the giant blacksmith we find dead in Anor Londo.
i think the idea of gods having metaphysical effects in souls is a fairly underrated idea. not enough attention gets put on souls metaphysics.
Yeah now that you mention it, what happened to him between the games. different staff,robes,crown, he doesn't even use his bow to cast the rain of arrows,yet you the player can the bow with Aldrich's soul?
Now I'm stuck thinking that it was a magical girl transformation scene.
@@yeetkhajiit7 the boss soul has gwyndolin's in the middle. That is why you can get his bow
Well no the staff is said to be a imperfect replica of Gwyndolins original catalyst,as you can find one above pontiffs boss arena. It was given as a gift, but nothing can compare to the perfection of old. The crown probably follows the same logic. Also his clothes are just new ones, it has floral patterns and gold so I doubt it is from the cathedral. Also considering he was locked in the chamber for who knows how long stuff like his long nails could just be from no proper grooming.
Another fun fact about Aldritch is that, besides the intro cutscene, he has no individual cutscene. There's one for the Abyss Watchers, Lorian and Lothric, even Yhorm if you complete Siegward's questline. Aldritch just... doesn't have one
Prince of Death deep lore lol
Good lol
Well you walk in on him with his moth full and he’s pissed
He doesn’t deserve one. 😤
He does have one. He comes out of a grave.
People: Gwyndolin was wearing the reversal ring to give himself boobs!
Other people: No! The ring doesn’t give you tits!
Me: He was wearing one of his sisters bras!
That would have resulted in a more "Apparent" result
don't forget Gwyndolin has illusion magic
Gwynevere, talking and seeing us, reacting to us.
An illusory wall that cannot even be broken without a special ring
even Ornstein in the O&S bossfight is theorized to be an illusion
what's a pair of illusory boobs to him?
I need to go touch some grass.
@@dr.brightsamulet.3157 as your grasstouching went?
me: aldritch started eating him thus making him skinny af.
It definitely was sad to see what has become of Gwyndolin. He did not deserve this. 😢😢😢
Yes he did. He’s the one who tricks the undead into lighting the first flame and to burn for centuries to keep the fire lit.
@@mightytaco123 Yes, because lighting the Fire keeps his world going, and he was trying to keep everything stable.
Like it was a dick move but it wasn't done for evil reasons simple a guy trying to stop everything he knew from falling to bits.
@@4wheal no the darkness is good cause it’s the age of man
@@4wheal Plus, we all know Gwyndolin had some daddy issues. Upholding the age of fire was one of the few things he KNEW, would make his father happy, so he devoted himself to it even after everyone, including his sister, fucked off and left Anor Londo.
@@mightytaco123 yeah, people from Oolacile are really like this age of dark and are comfortably leaving along side darkness
i am still so unreasonably attached to Gwyndolin.
Aldrich sure is
@@thestrongestlivingcreature Foul, just foul... 💀
@@thestrongestlivingcreature Aldrich really ate him out… like… seriously he’s just a puppet now
Think it might just be a mockery of Gwyndolin in DS3 since he's all gnarly and shit. The metal seems organic and uneven instead of the handcrafted stuff you see him wear in DS1.
@@scythe-fi5604 Foul tarnished, in search of the Elden ring
5:55 awe I never noticed he got little angel wigs on his back😢❤
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8:43 was perfect. Thank you lol
In DS1 Gwyndolin has breasts. In DSIII he doesn't.
Knowing that he's a master of illusions because of the infinite hallway during his boss fight and the illusion of light and his sister...
He probably made himself Illusionary breasts.
so technically, if aldritch ate only the legs and hip area, and gwyndolin is a boy would that make him gay???
@@cruiz4168 Maybe... Or maybe he was just _really_ hungry.
the three theories I've heard is yours, that they were illusory, that this is an effect of taking off his ring, or that the figure we can see isn't gwyndolin
I mean I would if I could ngl
In DS1 he's wearing the ring, in DS3 he isn't
13:03 I always thought it must have been an oversight that the statue depicted Gwyn as already burned. Also kinda funny that they made Gwynevere's gazongas slightly larger in DS3 lol
The model for those statues are clearly just the regular models of those characters reskinned, so they just didn't bother giving Gwyn a slightly different face, or just forgot about it.
@@bigdumbfatcat2869DS3 feels like it was thrown together last minute.
@@DankyKang96 Ds1 you mean
@@cumchungus8841 sure maybe that second half, but DS2 and 3… idk what’s happened but I have come to hate them after a while. I hated 2 anyway and wasn’t sold on 3 when I played it but I’ve come back to listen to lore and it’s just annoying me how they finished it all off 😂
@@DankyKang96 your opinion I guess. My personal favourite is 3
Gywndolin has boobs in ds1 because his model was originally for Gwyn's wife, the Queen. They just repurposed the model once that character was cut. He also looks gangly and elongated in ds3 because aldritchs final model was hacked together out of lothric's model and a man grub once they decided not to go with Aldrich's original boss fight. It would've taken place where the deacons of the deep fight is in the final game and it would've involved eldritch striking at you from his coffin in the center. That's why the deacons fight is underwhelming and the arena for it is so huge
What was planned for Anor Londo in DS3?
People act like this game is so intricate, that the developers took a lot of time to be super detailed with the game, but the more you dig, the more you realize how cobbled together it was.
Also, I'm pretty sure Gwyndolin's concept art for DS1 has him drawn with breasts.
Fromsoft repurposes assets all the time and writes new story around them which is fine, that's common practice in the industry. But DS3 suffers the worst from it
@@lordfarquaad8601 right, because that was concept art for the queen. Gywndolin as a character probably wasn't conceived at the concept art stage, they just reused the model they already had when they came up with him / decided not to go with whatever they were going to do
Regarding Gwyndolin, i also noted some interesting aspect about his physical appearance between both Dark Souls, in the case of Dark Souls 3, if you looks carefully Gwyndolin's body, ignoring the Aldritch's sludge, you can notes that Gywndolin is visibly more larger and has more longer arms, in comparison with his version of Dark Souls 1, as if this detail was to show how older became Gwyndolin between both games, especially as Dark Souls 3 takes place a millennia after the events of Dark Souls 1.
Yeah he would be significantly taller with actual legs showing that Gwynevere born in the age of fires prime could certainly be as large as the illusion
The actual reason for this is that Gwyndolin in DS3 is actually just using Prince Lothrics model with a change in outfit.
I thought this was supposed to be caused by Aldritch as a means to defend himself from the Ashen one (supposedly we arrive just in the middle of Aldritch devouring him), literally defiling his corpse and using it .
I thought this was supposed to be caused by Aldritch as a means to defend himself from the Ashen one (supposedly we arrive just in the middle of Aldritch devouring him), literally defiling his corpse and using it .
The captions for 11:43 to 11:53 were very helpful and informative 👍
Thank you for pointing that out, that was hilarious
Absolutely brilliant! Thanks so much for this amazing video detailing one of my favorite characters ever!
To be honest he could’ve just left an illusion of himself with memories and left to go find he’s siblings. I like this idea more because Aldrich when ever he would be done he would realize it was a fake and just eat Pontiff for lying to him.
Gwyndolin deserved better 😢
Only because I wouldn't wish his fate, being devoured by Aldritch, on my worst enemy. But bro had to go. He was one of the last fragments of Gwyn's kingdom. He was the last one defending Anor Londo.
Nah he had it coming for keeping the age of the tyrannical gods going on
@@eren5148 I mean objectively he was making the world worse, but if you think about it from his perspective, he was just trying to save his family. Being born into that family, protecting them and his extended empire/age of fire would've been all he knew. Basically, from his perspective, he was doing the right thing, so imo he definitely didn't deserve the fate he received. But then, I feel like that punishment would've been way too harsh for almost anyone lol, but hey that's Dark souls, 70% of the cast get subjected unjustly to endless pain and torment.
Always loved the fact that in DS1 he has boobs (7:33) because he was forced to wear the reversal ring, while in DS3 he has a flat chest (9:16) because he finally embraced his role as king of Irithyll and the gods, and we found the ring discarded in the Darkmoon tomb, what a great little detail
Reversal ring doesn't give you breasts nor changes your body type, just your animations. This isn't a technical limitation as gender swapping was already a thing in Dark Souls 2. In 3 he looks incredibly emaciated (No fat for breast tissue) and with thin long arms, which could be justified as the consequences of being devoured and used as a puppet warping him, or a design change.
We have to remember that "time itself is convoluted, with heroes centuries old phasing in and out." There's a lot of details between each of the Dark Souls games that both prove and disprove any chronological order.
For years, my headcanon has been the idea that the Gwyndolin of DS1 is an alternate timeline version of the Gwyndolin of DS3, where both had slightly different facial and body features.
Alternatively, Gwyndolin's partial corpse in DS3 could appear so radically different due to Aldrich consuming/changing Gwyndolin. Perhaps, as much as Aldrich is gaining power, Gwyndolin's remaining body is being changed and morphed.
Or, as you say, perhaps magic or artifacts are at play. Maybe Gwyndolin is a shapeshifter, somewhat like mythological Loki in the Norse pantheon, or maybe the Ring of Reversal has a significantly stronger effect on the intended bearer - that being, Gwyndolin.
Personally, I think it's a mixture of the three.
@@khajiitimanus7432 Nothing to do with you but I'm so tired of that quote being used to justify anything in the lore when it was clearly meant to only justify the online play elements. You're free to have any head canon you like, I merely provided opposing evidence.
Forgot to mention, who would be forcing him to wear the ring in Dark Souls 1? As he's the only figure of authority in Anor Londo left.
@@MinecraftSpongeT Respectfully, if you think that quote was merely justification for game mechanics, you're just fundamentally wrong. Smough, Aldrich, and the Chosen Undead prove this.
Regardless, there's no point arguing the matter. Either you acknowledge the facts and agree, or you don't and then opt to disagree, in which case it's futile to continue this topic.
As for your other question - I never said anyone was forcing Gwyndolin to wear the ring. Thus, I do not have an answer for you.
@@MinecraftSpongeT the reversal ring does not change the body type of *the player*. It's gameplay issue, not a in universe fact. Just like clutching some pieces of Velka's hair would never be viable in fighting, but for gameplay it work without problem.
- Indoctrination is just as powerful as any fighting hand. He stayed in his father's tomb whithout being forced, too, kept the illusions up and remained there. but in the end Irythill's existence and fact that he stopped using the ring are enough proof that he had ambitions outside of Anor Londo. We don't know his reasons but the fact that he moved means that did have reasons both to stay and to leave
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Vergil caught me lacking.
I never realised that his crown is different in DS3
me neither. i say it looked cooler in the first game.
Well you gotta think around 1000 years have passed since the 1st game so that’s 1000 years of wear n tear to his crown
Or, him being a royalty, he simply has many similar sets of wardrobe with nuanced difference.
It looks a lot rougher and less detailed than the original. Could be intepreted as a physical representive methaphor of the fall from grace the old gods experienced.
I never noticed how much of a combination gwendoline might be. I know he uses Priscilla's and Nito's attacks, but it kinda looks like parts of them remain, if we assume he did devour them too. The bones of bodies where the snakes were. The skirt kind of like a ragged old version of Priscilla's dress. Probably not, but an interesting thought.
Anyway... He is one of the most tragic characters to me by the 3rd game. It was certainly a shock to see him again my first playthrough. To be left behind (willing or not) by your family and have to keep up appearances in a dead, dark city of the past. All the whille knowing it's a lie. Then to be slowly eaten alive as you watch the city you fought to protect grow ever darker. A god now down to nothing more than an unwilling puppet. Not sure how much of him is left to know or feel his long demise. I always thought his moans were of constant agony. Likely a relief to him to have his suffering end.
Unfortunately, he’s still alive. His moans are from the pain being consumed slowly. After he’s completely dead, Aldrich (glob monster consuming him) will use his corpse as he wishes.
He didn't devour them too. We as the Ashen Ones get drawn into this mess as soon as the revived lords go rogue. This is why you can literally follow a trail of Aldrich. We are basically chasing his "footsteps," just a little bit behind each lord's path. Basically we are Plan C, and an emergency one at that, rushed into dealing with the Lords so we can fix the world. As such all Aldrich had time to do was go devour Gwyndolin (and hilariously miss Rosaria/Gertrude hidden within his own territory). Had he devoured Priscilla we would have seen a trail of Aldrich ooze into the painting. The game is quite clear as to actually what is happening though.
While he is devouring and puppeteering Gwyndolin Aldrich dreamt of the other gods, and is creating miracles based on those memories. Nito's Blade of Death and Priscilla's Lifehunt Scythe are just facsimiles created from the dream. That's why we can only acquire the scythe as a "miracle." Also, hilariously since we as the protagonist got there so quickly we literally interrupted his meal.
Aldrich functions like a snake in that he is lethargic while digesting Gwyndolin, and the process of digestion takes a good bit of time... So basically we fought a weakened Aldrich, which is par for the course in Souls. Were he to finish devouring Gwyndolin the fight would have been far, far more harrowing.
As for Priscilla, well... Technically she is in the game. The painting is a refurbishment of the original, which means that many of the residents have literally been reborn in the image unconsciously designed by Ariandel. The Corvians are just Velka's followers repainted, and fully explain that the world has to be remade or it rots away. As such, the Painter is basically a repainting of Priscilla. She speaks of a Mother, but that Mother she keeps talking about is Gwynevere, who as the goddess of birth would be able to teach her daughter the process of making a new world. This is hinted at a few visual ways in the game: the rotating statue of Gwynevere and young Priscilla leading to the boss room and the Corvians worshipping places the "Queen of Lothric" (Gwynevere) has visited. The basic irony of the DLC is Priscilla is ousted by her own followers because their memory of Priscilla is used by Friede, as she mimics Priscilla's original form. Priscilla's only true follower at that point is Gael, who was a slave knight from the Age of the Gods assigned to watch over her.
To sum it all up, Priscilla is actually in the game alive but recreated into a young girl by the Painted World being altered. She, like the Corvian we speak to, has her memories intact and uses her knowledge to ask us to help her create a new world. The "body" in the Ariandel boss room is actually just made of wood, snake skin, wolf fur, and a statue head. Aldrich didn't even have time to go find Priscilla, although he did envision her as a "young girl" while dreaming. So he saw her in dreams but failed to nab her for his next meal. By the way, funnily enough with Priscilla this was the third time Miyazaki tried to make a child version of an existing character. The first two were Beatrix and the Emerald Herald, but this was the time he finally succeeded and got that child version in-game, albeit via DLC.
@@SpacePirateLord but why Rosaria is not Gwynevere? Both of them are associated with birth
@Nachal'nik Rosaria is her daughter Gertrude, you can tell by the wax in her hair from the Grand Archives. She was held in that cage above the Archive and rescued by her followers (another link being the Man Grub up there in the rafters). Gertrude is a goddess of similar purview to her mother Gwynevere (who is confirmed via item description to be the Queen of Lothric), but instead of birth she is the goddess of rebirth. Gwynevere herself, as per item description, pulled her same disappearing act as in Dark Souls 1 and simply left to some unknown location before the events of the game(but not before leaving Divine Blesssings in certain places).
Gertrude however was captured by the scholars at the Grand Archive where they experimented on her. She was subjected to horrible torment and experimentation, and they even removed her tongue (and perhaps eyes too). She is a tortured emaciated mess by the time the Fingers save her and spirit her away to where you eventually find her. The irony of Rosaria's Fingers is they are the least evil of the red invader covenants, and Kirk returned as a Finger to display this. Bringing her the Tongues relieved her suffering, which Kirk was big on with the Fair Lady. His inclusion was deliberate to show that the Fingers, although evil in action, were trying to help their goddess. Though, mind you some of them like Heysel were just addicted to being reborn.
@@SpacePirateLord Oh thank goodness,that puts me more at ease knowing that Priscilla is actually alive and well and turned out to be the painter all along 😸 Thank you very much for your amazing lore knowledge 😸
My headcanon of Aldrich eating Gwyndolin
Gwyndolin: Oh, are you not slimy friend of Sulyvahn? Thanks for visit but I'm bit sick lately so it would be delightful if you let me continue my rest.
Aldrich: * slurp slurp*
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This is cannon
Thanks for the vid Crest, I'd love a standalone clip of your recreation of Gwyndolin sitting next to Gwyn's empty tomb :)
I do think of making a compilation of outros, but I lost some of them. My favorite is the Solaire one from the Gwyn video.
Thank god Vergil made it in time! I was getting worried that he was going to let me get exposed to heresy.
He deserved better. 😔
What's your favorite snake?
Micah Bell
Solid
AS FEMILIIIII
Rykard.
trouser
when ds3 came out, there was this (unintentionally) hilarious vid where some guy was absolutely flipping his lid about the “fact” that he thought that the gwyndolin part on alrdrich was just aldrich and not actually gwyndolin.
he yelled about how it was absurd people were saying, in his words, “aldrich had ‘puppet powers’” and he was getting quite incensed over the whole thing.
i can’t find it anymore, which leads me to believe the guy was 100% serious and deleted out of embarrassment… which is a shame, cuz boy was it funny watching someone absolutely lose their mind over a video game.
I was thinking about that video!
I can't find it anymore either. It was so ridiculously funny, what a shame 😂
i was mad too man i get it
11:21 - 11:28 why do the snakes look absolutely cooked out their fucking mind
Amazing video! I feel sorry for him, i think his fate is too gruesome...
the third person boss controls makes me imagine a smite like moba game with dark souls bosses
Lol ya reminds me of Scylla. I'm curious if it's
an inspiration or just a random coincidence.
Models comparison starts at 5:00.
DS1 vs DSR at 10:43.
8:42
Praise the Storm that is approaching.
(Gesture Activated: "Praise the Sun" but with Katana)
Anyone else kinda miss that look from earlier Fromsoft works where not everything looked so grimy and rusted or dead?
I'm really kind of sad with DS3's presentation, DS1 perfectly portrayed a dying world through its atmosphere and enemy designs. DS3 resorts to cheap tricks like corpses that jumpscare you in irithyll dungeon and squishy viscera in Anor Londo to try and get the same feeling.
DS1 will always be the best DS
I never liked how DS3 had a wet muddy look nearly everywhere to a point where even DS2 looks better on certain surfaces
@@TheSilly6403 I always hated how DS3 just brought back locations from DS1 explicitly. DS2 having almost no physical overlap (the only one i can think of being the old chaos) was great
The world is near its end. The situation in DS1 is not nearly as dire as in DS3. And the game has heavy themes with ash. Thats why it looks so gray
Rip our favorite femboy, this world was to dark for you 💔
Too pure for this world 🥺
femboys🥺
Agree
Bruh he's an evil mf
@@ProjectKagura 😳
eeeh yes and no, he's a good obedient boy, but he is as guilty as gwyn for the state of the world.
I never noticed that the Gwyn statue in the first game portrays him as already "cindered". How interesting.
Thanks for this video, it's a great comparison. And it doubles as a little reminder how hard DSR fails in some visual areas - the flatness of the metallics kills me, lol.
Imagine if instead of the canon Aldrich boss fight with the corpse slime you had to fight Gwyndolin with six Pus of Man in his snakes' place.
don't give them ideas... they still have time to go back on Shadow of the Erdtree and do Miquella's boss fight with 6 Ulcerated Tree Spirits as his feet
I never gave much thought to how they looked in either fight as both times I was just frantically running about trying not to get sniped.
The last God of Anor Londo
Left to protect a lie
Yet the one whit the strongest Will
Aslo is a Cutie
Also rebuilt anor Londo and the dark moon and made it nice for a non defined amount of time until he fell ill
He’s dead in ds3, he isn’t protecting shit anymore
did you know how long I was looking for an explanation of how his snake legs work? thank you for making this video! you earned a sub at the very moment we got no horny bonked by Vergil.
4:25 why is nobody mentioning Ornstein just pulling up?
Honestly with the fact aldrich ate gyndolin i feel like aldrich is just using his upper half as a puppet in a similar way the butterflys do with the dragonslayer armour. But if aldrich gains a little bit of a design peice from who he devours am i the only one who thinks judging by his design the aldrich might have also ate nito
i was reading comments and you did that Vergil jumpscare i was all chill and sleepy, damn
I love the gameplay part and the rest. Thanks.
You know, looking at how different their faces, hair clothes and masks are, id say thats not even Gwyndolin. Somehow I think that's Aldrich mockingly replicating Gwyndolin. His mask is not erroded, it's a completely different mask. I think people, or at least me, had the idea that Aldrich was the lower half, and we could only see half of Gwyndolin, but even so his proportions are all wrong, so what if Aldrich wasn't just eating him whole like a snake as much as masquerading as him?
My boy deserved better...
Bro got eated 😢
The clothes that Aldrich wears... that looks a lot like it could belong to the deep, with juwelry that is remiscent of that. 2 possibilities Here for me
Either Saint Aldrich was wearing this before he fused with Nito, Priscilla and Gwyndolin and thats just his part of the body.
Or Gwyndolin was forced to wear this as mockery like the thorncrown of jesus. Maybe they put it on his corpse. Thats a terrible thought.
Someone in the comments said it could be that during the milennia between ds1 and ds3, Gywndolin stopped wearing his crown. And once Aldritch starts eating him and absorbing his knowledge, he has his corpse wear the crown as Gwyndolin remembers, the crown as shown in ds3, which is what vague memory he has of it left.
I want to see what Aldrich boss fight looks like when you remove Aldrich slug body.
8:43 damn you Vergil
This video will be very useful for artists as it shows a lot of details
I didn't even know Gwyndolin had a different crown
All im finna say is....would
Ayo 🤨
@@darksungwyndolin8305 🥴
shitttt you’d have to pay me not to
Самые просматриваемые моменты это статуя гвиневер и Вергилий это многое говорит о нашем обществе.
8:38 OH YOU played me like a damned fiddle
So he has female breast in concept art? I always thought dev just use female body model and not bother flatten his chest area.
he is a feminine man
@@8304u too feminine
@@nachalnik5738 just feminine enough 😈
it’s part of an illusion. his model also has it but after the bossfight if you talk to him it’s gone
@@Paperbat 🤨
Gwyndolin would not have know his crown in vivd detail because it probably was not out of his head often, then he founded Irythil and (by the way the statues look, he stopped wearing that) left the crown behind. When Aldritch starts eating him and takes the knowledge from his memories, the knowledge of Yorshka, of his bow art and of old the Crown.
And that's why in DS3 his crown looks like a hazy, dilapidated thing. That's the best ALdritch could parse from his memory
My other theory is that Gwyndolin was a son to both Seath and Gwyn. We have no information about what makes Gwyn a god apart from his Light Soul, or how he reproduced, there are no mentions to a wife (apart from Filianore, but that was scrapped and she was turned into a daughter). Gwyndolin could very well be some egg hatched experiment.
Seath only keeps girls around (namely, the Pisaca), Gwyn would not want this Moon tuned draconian child to be too connected with his precious Sun. Too useful to squander when Gwynever fled and Nameless/Faraam/Gwynsen was exiled, but not worthy of being showcased either. Raise him in conveninent womanly ways, put the last hopes to the Fire on his shoulders and fuck off to find immortality/link the Fire.
ipeople have tried to make a family tree, it's possible gwyndolin is son of gwyn and priscilla, with priscilla being seath's daughter (maybe with velka or gwinevere)
@@Sercroc It's far more likely that Priscilla is related to Gwyn, possibly his granddaughter. Because she is called an "illegitimate child", which implies royalty.
@@Tasorius according to the translation, seath is officially gwynevere husband, he is royalty in a sense, there is that
@@Sercroc I really need to go through the Japanese wiki and find hidden stuff that you can't find through the English text... Each page on the English wikis should have a translation section to make things a lot easier...
@@Tasorius yeah good thing there ar eyoutubers that do the job for us. That said, i just take it a sa possibility, but it checks, she is white and half dragon, so seath being her father is there, and they could have kille dher but decided to close her in th epainting, wich is all velka related, and gwindolin is pretty much doing velka's work with the darkmoons. Mnay things check and make it interesting for me
Damn it Vergil
gwyndolin: why am i hearing the boss's music?
DS1 Gwyndolin is fine af
i had no idea his model even included panties, fromsoft is in another level
i just realized aldrich is the tail and the head is Gwendolyn being eaten.
gwyndolin knew the lifehunt power in ds3; i keep wondering how it relates to priscilla, and yorshka being outside ariamis' painting...
I love (devoured) Gwyndolin's hands.
Gwyndolin, in my opinion, was very wasted in DS3. It would be nice if killing Aldrich would free Gwyndolin's body and be able to interact with him (even if he later died). I could give some interesting dialogues making references to the former glory of Anor Londo, references to DS1's Chosen Undead or something about Yorshka (she deserved to leave that tower, be happy and free). It's a shame.
8:44 NICE 🤣
Finally a DMC stan!
12 years later and I still don't get why he has snakes for legs...
0:15
hold up, what the hell is up with that WRIST???
He’s dead, his bones can bend however they want.
Anyone else notice how aldrich's spell he casts on the staff looks similar to part of a gravelord sword as well?
10:35 horror ahead
Awesome work
so gwyndolins hhheadpiece just covers up that fucking saturn ahh hair line
you just know aldrich was tearing up that bussy
You could have said nothing, but you chose to say this
I remember making a fire mage, and getting summoned at least 50 times to help other players nuking down aldrich, i hated this boss
MY PRETTY LITTLE GWYNDOLIN DESERVES BETTER!!!
Aw hell yeah every snake is unique
7:29
Can you tilt the camera a lil bit
For research purposes 🧐
In DS3 he’s not wearing his femboy ring that’s why he looks different
This is Aldrich devourer of gods
Aldrich is only the gue part, the human is gwyndolin, who is controlled and eaten by aldritch
Gwyndolin deserved better in lore, he looks and sounds so sad in ds3 😞 Also the fact they modeled 6 different snakes for him, love it! I’m happy we’re getting another gangly snake boy to carry on his legacy in the elden ring DLC
Gwyndolin snakes are so cute 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
Why does PS3 Gwyndolin look so much more detailed then PS4 Gwyndolin?
Bc the way ps4 gwyndolin is animated made it unnecessary to model him very intricately
•the endless gender argument ultimately seems silly and trivializing, hes much more ambiguous than that. i think the intent was to create more of a hermaphroditus-like figure, being of both and neither sexes (which i think gwyn purposefully misconstrues, perhaps to remove his unorthodox child from the line of succession).
•still he adopts a more masculine role in ds3 as the succeeding all-father, by casting off his fathers expectations, reshaping anor londo/irithyll in his own twilit image. definitely favorite fromsoft character
and though his design is inherently sexual, its unfortunate that such a complex + influential character is subject to constant mockery and fetishization
i think part of it is because fromsoft really designed him in a sexual way , as if the game fetishizes the character , also he badly falls into the trope of " Looks like a girl but actually is a boy" so i doubt the fandom would take him seriously when the game developers failed to do so
@@eren5148 eroticism is not necessarily exploitative nor should it be dismissed as a unserious facet in a character's portrayal. gwyndolin's design cleverly/compellingly [imo] utilizes psychosexual apollonian/dionysian imagery - sun/moon dichotomy, masculine austere+priestly demeanor with feminine wisplike+unearthly allure [traditionally/mythologically speaking]. the serpent legs are at once both overtly phallic AND chimerical + androgynous. when i speak of fetishism i talk of those who eschew these traits solely in favor of their ultrasubmissive, nymphomaniac, pornographic fantasies
and while i may read a bit too deeply into it, these classical archetypes are so deeply ingrained into the collective consciousness of present+past as to make incorporation of them unavoidable - especially in a game that so often interprets and alters world mythology to concieve its own story
@@horserotorvator extremely correct take IMO (this is part of why i love Gwyndolin as a non-binary person, but i certainly wouldn't presume the character "belongs" exclusively to any of the many possible interpretations people are arguing about endlessly here - I think the ambiguity is fine [and beautiful] on its own merits, even if it's not the sort of thing universally associated with beauty, the sublime, or the divine anymore)
8:42 NO! we are not getting started on that body part
Put me and gwyndolin in a room together alone it’s over😩(ik he’s a boy)
This is exactly what I wanted to see. Thank you.
So he’s basically if you merged a Merman & a Gorgon together.
Built for my Big Crystal Halberd
4:11 Put him in Nier Automata, he'll put his left hand to his chest. " GLORY TO MANKIND "
I did not except to be Vergil statused then, thank you
I wonder how he can see through the golden helmet on his head?
8:45 to see the most important part
"You can see the snakes intertwining here to become a human thigh"
So...he does have legs?
(totally didn't come here to see if he had legs or not)
lol gwyndolin has human thighs that connect to the snakes but the model for them looks super weird😆 I think there’s a cool boundary break video that shows em
Design so good they had to do it again
What most strikes me is how gwyndolin looks happier to be eaten than to be alive 😂
Damn Aldritch do be cracking on Gwyndolyn
Gwyndolin really didn’t deserve this crap. I feel disgusted at that thing-
Just wait til the next souls game that merges all the different universes as being in different dimensions and Miquella is Gwyndolyn
Damn, you was right
эй, почему на арене в дс1 нельзя подойти и обнять, сказать все хорошо мальчик, я с тобой, я тобой горжусь, а потом пойти в горнило душ возжечь пламя и попросить Гвиндолина беречь себя
Изначально так планировалось,но потом решили поменять.
He’s a corpse in DS3. It’s technically not even him.
Gwyndolin’s leg are one with the snakes!?