You can be in love without having a sexual relationship one needs more than sex to sustain a relationship,you got to get out the bed and like one another
Pac’s statement about him shutting down Jada’s marriage proposal because he felt that she did it _”out of pity”_ while his love for her was _”pure”_ was always quite interesting to me because there seems to be sadness behind the words. It almost as though he would’ve accepted had he believed she loved him the same way he loved her.
Rashida didn't realize what her dad was doing to young people tryna get into the industry.......phuck quincy Jones he robbed young people of their virginity especially boys. Hes one of the number one booty bandits in the industry next to diddy and clive...... i said what is truth......
@dragon360ful1 According to Jada's book, he did propose to her but only for convenience. It wasn't necessarily out of love. It was a plan of his and she was going to go through with it because of her loyalty to her friend. However, when Tupac expected her to fulfill her "wife duties," she backed out of their agreement.
I remember sending you an email about this exact topic a while back. I’m glad to see the video finally out and you did an amazing job! Let me start by saying I 100% relate to what you said about always feeling that there was “unfinished” business between Pac and Jada. I believe they were at a point where they were genuinely considering building a life together but that last line was never crossed. It’s not uncommon for platonic friends to grow up and have those feelings morph into more. Another thing I found interesting was how Afeni specifically requested that Jada play the role of Katherine (the girl Pac ends up with) in his screenplay *Live to Tell.* You could argue this is a stretch but Pac said himself it was semi-autobiographical. It seemed that she always had a special place in her heart for Jada and believed that her and Pac would end up together one day. _”My mom never taught me how to cook. She taught my brother how to cook, and I happened to be in the room when she did it. She never taught me about being a woman. She taught Jada [Pinkett]. She was a loving mother to Jada, when they were in high school, I just happen to be in the room listening to that.”_ - Sekyiwa Shakur
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Sister Souljah was also friends with Will and Jada. They use to take family trips together and stuff. Jada was supposed to play winter in the coldest winter ever movie (that Never happened) I wonder if Tupac introduced them
Will didn't want Jada near Tupac & Death Row... You know because of the reputation and probably her love for Pac... Maybe she felt like that kept her from making amends with Tupac over the argument they had... And he died suddenly before she got the chance to make things right...😥
Its interesting that she proposed to Tupac considering the way she adamantly denied wanting to be married to Will. I think in her mind she settled for Will, and unknowingly resents him for it.
He proposed to her according to her book but it was out of convenience and she turned it down.. and keisha also said she overheard them spkin about marriage.. his cousin also said pac was going to marry jada
So Keisha said she spent the night with Tupac before he took off to Vegas. Now this is the third story I’ve heard of people saying they spent the last night with Tupac before he went to Vegas.
Tupac was so dynamic. He captured the hearts of many women but like Sister Souljah said, I think he was lost. Keisha said she spoke to him and was with him prior to the Vegas incident but he was there, in Vegas, with Quincy Jone's daughter and she said she felt like they weren't supposed to be there. I think the lesson in all of this is to make sure you take the time to slow down and take everyone's feelings into consideration when you make decisions tbat could potentially effect them. Considering other's feelings despite your own desires could literally save your life.
I wish someone would look up the essence magazine issue from 1994 with jada speaks on will and how she was going to take him ? It was creepy when I read it so long ago
Thanks for the information on sister souljah ,didn't know much about her, we will never know who pac was talking about ,he knew so many women. May I suggest a video on tupac in new York, when he and nas meant. There is so many version ,the fans need the truth.💙💙💙💙
@@stefansimpson7678pacs cousin confirmed pac said he wa going to propose and keisha also said inner interview she overheard pac n jada spkin about marriage
I think A is keshia and B is Jada. I think Tupac knew how Jada really felt about her and he didn't want to say anything that everyone would see. So he made it like there friendship was more than it was. I've seen a few interviews he's done and he made it clear that he loved Jada , but that they were friends. I think she really wanted him, to a point of obsession. I think he was confused, because of all he was going through. I also feel that he wanted Keshia near him and always wanted to be able talk to her and see her when he wanted to. Tupac was falling fast and hard for Keshia. So we have to let his story ends their , because he's not here to give us anymore chapters. RIP Pac!
Jada said she love PAC ..I believe PAC wanted the relationship but Jada didn't..she said she told PAC 2 times to kissed her but their was no nothing their
Jada has NEVER made anyone think she wanted Tupac. I don't have any male friends as close as they were. But I have plenty of male friends. EVERYONE of them have at some point wanted to date me and I only wanted friendship. It's not uncommon.
Please do a video on Tupac's siblings when you have the chance, I don't recall seeing any about them here! I don't know a lot about them either so I'm sure you would inform
Hi I just came across this I'm in the middle of doing something and I haven't had to pop up on my phone but I'm going to save it to watch for later thanks for sharing
Interesting video...I feel like Tupac was misunderstood by numerous people of his own RACE, that's not including other races, even though his life was brief, he went through a lot that the public knows about and probably more that the public weren't aware of. It's a shame how individuals accused him of things he had NO control over like the incident where this Trooper was murdered then fingers were directed at PAC, if a person give you a pistol of knife then tell you to kill another don't necessarily mean you have to do it, I'm pretty sure Tupac wrote whatever song the media was referring to as part of his album, one thing I learned about PAC and that is, he wrote what was on his heart or/and what was going on around in the Black community and/or globally. Dan Quayle can't relate to Tupac because he's probably never went through various hardships like Tupac or any other Negro that normally goes through who is maybe at the poverty line or below. All people who's anti-Tupac have no audacity to be judgmental toward PAC. Jesus said in the Holy Bible when they were wanting to stone Mary Magdalene for being caught in the very act of adultery...he who was without SIN cast the first stone...after thousands of years later, that verse still applies TODAY(100%)
Lmao, guess I'm the only one that actually read it. The part where he said, *they know of the other and I have tried to make it work as a threesome. Not sexually but commitment wise* was a dead giveaway. Jada knew Keisha was his girlfriend she told him she's not what he needs.
Pac's Pros and Cons with Woman B: The old friend was bisexual. That was Con #1 She was busy with her career. Con #2 Pros..., She was there for him, before he was famous.
Didn't the rapper Yo-Yo say Jada pinkett Smith was delusional because Tupac was for everybody and couldn't have loved her that deeply I saw that somewhere online
How did this become about jada when it’s PACs letter about his love for both Jada n Keisha lol.. and yoyo can’t talk cos pac has nevr expressed his luv for her like that she was jst 1 of many chicks he had Yoyo also said in her interview with sway that pac was infatuatd with jada.. jada always said they were besties who lovd each other nothing more
@@sherylsutherland1183 yoyo didn’t know how deep their rel was… even pacs sister says pac always spoke abt jada and had her pics on his walls.. this letter also showed that pac was in luv wid jada n keisha only and trn between the 2
@ or near 10:21 thanx for this video, Renie, did u hear anything about him secretly dating #Salt of #SaltnPepa? When we look at that #WhattaMan music video... it's highly plausible.
Thanks for watching. He wrote a letter to her too and dedicated his song to her kid. I think she said they were just friends though. I did a video on that. The Truth About 2pac and Salt. The Whatta Man Video and His Poem to Her ua-cam.com/video/-SUpJPsp0LY/v-deo.html
You're absolutely right. According to Jada's book, she knew she was being used. She was aware that Pac planned to use her to help eleviate the loneliness of his prison sentence. She agreed to his plan out of loyalty to their friendship. She expected they would get divorced as soon as he was released and resume their platonic friendship. However, she backed out the plan because Pac was expecting her to fulfill her wify duties...
Yeah, that's what Reggie said. It could be possible that he doesn't remember correctly. According to the other friends of Pac, it was actually a family trip. Jada and other close friends were there, too.
I agree hand written letters is a lost art 🥰. I believe woman B is Jada I don’t care what Jada says I believe her and 2 PAC was actually in love with each other regardless of they had sex or not
@@KouDaDonnope it was jada.. only she knew him before the fame and was bi..Keisha confirmed he overheard pac n jada tlkn bout marriage and pacs cousin also said it was jada
@@KouDaDonin other videos pac always jst said jasmine helped him a lot that’s it.. but with jada he always expressd his love for her.. Jasmine also said jada was th closest to pc
@@Blessed855 That’s Where I’m Getting At Despite What Jada Do Or Has Done When It Comes To Speaking On Pac Name She Thought He Was Her 4Ever After And She Would Be His Cause Thats All She Know Is Pac As A Friend Brother Or As Someone She See As A Distant Lover But Maybe In The Next Life
Woman A is definitely Keisha. Desiree and Pac stopped talking before the Quad Studio shooting and did not reconnect until after Keisha and Pac split. (as soon as Keisha left he moved Desiree to the town where the prison was...lol MEN!) When he says she is from the streets I really think he means she is a normal person and not in show biz. In his letters to Angela Ardis he says Jada proposed to him out of pity, so woman B is likely her but I do wonder too if she was Madonna!
Desiree was a non-factor. Ever since her Art interviews fans are taking her word as gospel. She has told some lies and has gaps in her story. Pac never sent for Desiree to make the move to Dannemora. She went up there after learning he was married. Side chicks are attracted to taken men that's why she spites Keisha. She was competing for his attention and affection. Desiree came up in the late summer/fall on her off days from school. Keisha had already left and went on a vacay. Pac then used Desiree, who was fresh out of high school to visit him. Yasmyn arranged her visit. Desiree was happy to get laid and smoke weed with a superstar. I also think she slept with Kadafi and Big Syke too.
@@angelindisguise3204 Thanks for the reply, that's interesting. Do you know why Keisha has been completely erased from Tupac's story? Did his family not like her? I know Pac got mad when Keisha went on holiday but there must be more to why people act like she never existed. in Yasmyn's book 'spirit of an outlaw' she says that she was the one holding 'pac down in prison and doesn't mention Keisha even once and no mention of the marriage at all. It's so weird.
@@Emmz-hr6tm Quincy Jones was her boss! So there's your answer. Money talks! Keisha never did anything but hold down her husband at his worst. She's not a celebrity with a PR machine to spin narratives. She took her vows seriously for better or for worst! Heck, Pac married her without signing a prenup that's a big deal! I don't think Keisha cares about ppl writing books creating their own version of Pac's life. What matters is Pac acknowledged her and real fans know what she meant to him. She doesn't need to seek approval from anyone. I believe Yas was the family member that told Keisha the line about her "15 minutes of fame." She's a hater! I remember when she said horrible things about EDI and Noble. Yas was present when Pac got out of prison. I believe it was her that disrespected Keisha and she's still doing it with her revisionist history. But I'm not shocked at all, if you pay attention she's irrational and kisses Jones family ass.
@@angelindisguise3204 Thanks for the great reply! WOW! That makes a lot of sense, yes I bet it was Yas that said that, because she basically took over Keisha's role in his life business wise. Damn so unprincipled and unloyal, the opposite of what Tupac stood for. Ugly behaviour. Keisha was and remains a class act, Pac was very lucky to have her. I hope the new 'official' bio that is coming out later this year puts some respect on Keisha's name, she deserves it. I am pretty sure 'Never Call U B again' is about Keisha.
Madonna didn't know Pac before he was famous. The one person who fits the description of Woman B is Jada. I am starting to wonder how truthful Pac was in that letter to Angela because years ago Jaden Smith said Pac had proposed to his mother. I figured Jaden was confused because Jada told him that to save face but Pac's cousin, William Lesane, said in a recent interview that while in prison Pac told him that he wanted to marry Jada and move to Arizona. Maybe he proposed to Jada and she is the one who turned him down.
Jada wasn't loyal and capable of loving anyone back then in the 90s that's jada still the same today Tupac and her just friends.will and her are just friends.her kids and her are just friends she's just the friendliest person in the industry 😂🤣😂🤣😂
@chan2009ify How if he met Keisha in the 90s after he became famous? Below is an excerpt from his 1995 letter to Sister Souljah in which he describes both women. Images of the handwritten letter can be found all over the internet. Woman B is clearly Jada. "I love one woman (A) because she's dependable, loving, supportive, and she's young and open to me guiding her through this crazy life (Who am I 2 guide?) Anyway woman "A" is from the streets and that's all she knows but I can see and feel how much she loves me. Woman "B" on the other hand is famous, rich, and able to assist me financially, loving, and very sexual. She's known me since before I got into the business and she's been there from the jump. However, she's bisexual and so into her career that we don't have much time together. So I'm literally torn between an old friend who went from being of a platonic nature to a potential wife and a new friend who has been there through the whole gunshot/rape/near death experience."
Well why are you watching it why every time you have to come on a video with negativity and disrespect. Some always have to come with hate and think they can just say anything to a person you don't even know or met before.
@@KouDaDon What is your point then? Tupac said Woman A is from the streets and is open for him to hide her. He said Woman B had known him since before he got into the business and she's been there from the jump. Those descriptions don't fit Jasmine Guy or Karyn Parsons.
I did a video on that. Why Many Believe Tupac Is Alive Today ua-cam.com/video/dvCSFOWIgyw/v-deo.html Akil is on UA-cam, you should check out his channel.
they pulled this shit with the rock musicians to with there lyrics and kids saying that AC-DC made them do it lolo but now i dont know, these guys actually rappin about killing ppl....that they've actually killed! but its all my fault!!!
What Goz around come around; she has no problem w insulting BLK men in frt of dah sisters, she may be supportive of dah sisters but leave a lot of space when it comes to dah brothers; a reeel fake, she appears.
Funny how rashida said “your people” honey you may not look black, but that black blood is running all thru your veins. I never liked rashida, just her tv work. I heard her sister is much nicer than her.
No the reason Jada and Tupac fell out was after he came out of prison a few months after, both of them had a major argument about him being on Death Row with Suge When Pac came out of jail he was still praising Jada. Things only got heated after Jada got mad at him for being with Death Row
Because Afeni had strife with Keisha ( she was the first woman Tupac loved deeply and Afeni was threatened) and also because kadida was there. It would've been too much confusion. The real question should be why Jada didn't go see him?
@@ohanaohana8844Jada said in her book that Afeni told her she didn't have to rush to visit him because Pac would be okay. Jada planned to visit him but he passed a few days prior.
I don't who it was but I just don't believe it was Jada. He is not here to deny or say who he meant & Jada could say how close they were but anybody say anything when the person is gone & can't agree nor deny what they say. Tupac knew too many women & anybody can say who he was speaking but we don't know who he was speaking of. If I'm wrong, so be it but I don't believe Jada was as important as she pretend to be, he's not here to dispute it. She can say he asked to marry her & anything else to make herself seem more important than she was to him. Think about it. I can say I met Michael Jackson & we fell in love & no1 else knew about the proposal or us meeting. He's gone. Who would know wat the real truth was.
@Ant Jim Remember Jada did say as well as Will & Pacs friends said they never had sex. Their relationship was plutonic. Jada also said herself that she was addicted to sex. Ok, they loved each other, she's sexually addictive, & Pac was accused of rape(which I also don't believe) but who knows. His friends said she wasn't as important as she pretends. Pac was a great rapper & I care less about who he fucked actually. He say, she say, we say, doesn't matter. They & God only knows the real truth. I still have my opinion & I stated it. Now!
@Ant Jim looks like Jada was everybody else's booty call except Pac's. She say she's addicted to sex & she & Pac loved each other yet she gave it up to everyone but Pac. Ok, so I guess they had such special kind of love that each of them that could be with whom ever they mostly wanted.restrained themselves from doing each other. She probably would have raped pac if anything. Ijs
Wasn’t 2Pac married when he died. Or with Kidada, every time I see that video of Jada crying. It 1 always made me sick. She wasn’t the woman in 2Pac arms leading up to or the end of his life. How she sitting there saying, “ It’s a once in a life time “ love “. Boo hooing like, that wasn’t her and Will “ together “. ? Then that only says she was playing Will Smith for a sucker. Used Will shine and weakness for her benefit. While in love with someone else, that is a very sick person.
@@QueenAnitaSoul1 her name is Tiffany and it’s a fact. If you never knew of this, say that! But don’t accuse me of spreading anything BUT the truth! Now have a good day as this is my FINAL reply‼️
🤔 Woman "B" is Jada but woman "A" is NOT Kiesha. 👀 Tupac described Kiesha as quiet, a good girl and a "square" (his words) that was studying criminal justice when he met her. Woman "A" has to be Desiree who was a bad girl that was 6 years younger than Pac.
Yes, being “from the streets” made me question if it was Keisha. I’ve watched many Desiree Smith interviews. They definitely had a deep love for one another. Thanks for the comment.
Wrong women A is indeed Keisha Moriss, he was never in love with Desiree Smith and she was nothing but a pass around a homie. There's no possible way it could've been Desirée they weren't even that serious like that. His reference to the "streets" was Keisha being a NY native
@@chan2009ify 1) Pac describing Kiesha = She’s nice, she’s quiet, she’s a square, she’s a good girl. She’s twenty-two, she’s a Scorpio, she . . . just graduated from John Jay College with a degree in criminal science, and she’s taken a year off, she’s going to go to law school . . . *** You cannot be a "square" and a "good girl" and street. Miss me with all that denial. 2) Pac's letter: "Woman "A" is from the streets and that's all she knows. I can see and feel how much she loves me." Woman "A" described as = Street, dependable, loving, supportive, young. (Desiree= Self proclaimed "bad girl" that was 6 years younger than Pac. Even if its not her it still aint Kiesha.)
@@believeit8103 What the hell are you talking about? Lol. Yes Tupac described Keisha as all that you mentioned but that doesn’t mean that Keisha didn’t come from the streets. Keisha is a NY native and that’s most likely what he meant by “the streets is all she knew” because NY is her origin and where she came from. Tupac describing her a “dependable loving and supportive” is absolutely Keisha he was talking about and no other woman. As Keisha was one of the few women who showed him genuine love and wanted nothing from him but to support him through his trial and during the time he was locked up. No other woman held him down quite like Keisha Moriss. She was the one he was describing, dating and in love with at that time. It’s impossible for it to be Desiree as Tupac didn’t love her the way he showed love to Keisha. That was his girl at the time not an underaged groupie like Desiree.
I don't know why people are always trying to put Tupac with Jada when he clearly said they were just friends. Tupac didn't want Jada in a sexual way. Tupac was with Quincy Jones daughter. She was the one he wanted to be with. People try to attach themselves to Tupac because he's still looked at as a legend 🙄
Clearly their relationship was a lot more nuanced and complicated than they wanted the public to know. Kadada Jones was just the lady of the day. She wasn't going to be in the picture long. Despite what a few ignorant comedians want people to believe, all the evidence is pointing to Pac and Jada being more than just friends.
Girl, thank you for popping into my recommendations. You're a breath of fresh air on this platform.
You can be in love without having a sexual relationship one needs more than sex to sustain a relationship,you got to get out the bed and like one another
Exactly 💯
Of course. There are spiritual soul ties that are not sexual nor intimate.
as a polyamorous asexual person you are dead on!!!! thank you!!
@darlienedaniels5935 Already! That's real talk!
Pac’s statement about him shutting down Jada’s marriage proposal because he felt that she did it _”out of pity”_ while his love for her was _”pure”_ was always quite interesting to me because there seems to be sadness behind the words. It almost as though he would’ve accepted had he believed she loved him the same way he loved her.
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@@SoulSearch11110 what’s funny about that
Rashida didn't realize what her dad was doing to young people tryna get into the industry.......phuck quincy Jones he robbed young people of their virginity especially boys. Hes one of the number one booty bandits in the industry next to diddy and clive...... i said what is truth......
And now she’s saying he proposed to her
@dragon360ful1 According to Jada's book, he did propose to her but only for convenience. It wasn't necessarily out of love. It was a plan of his and she was going to go through with it because of her loyalty to her friend. However, when Tupac expected her to fulfill her "wife duties," she backed out of their agreement.
I remember sending you an email about this exact topic a while back. I’m glad to see the video finally out and you did an amazing job!
Let me start by saying I 100% relate to what you said about always feeling that there was “unfinished” business between Pac and Jada. I believe they were at a point where they were genuinely considering building a life together but that last line was never crossed.
It’s not uncommon for platonic friends to grow up and have those feelings morph into more.
Another thing I found interesting was how Afeni specifically requested that Jada play the role of Katherine (the girl Pac ends up with) in his screenplay *Live to Tell.*
You could argue this is a stretch but Pac said himself it was semi-autobiographical. It seemed that she always had a special place in her heart for Jada and believed that her and Pac would end up together one day.
_”My mom never taught me how to cook. She taught my brother how to cook, and I happened to be in the room when she did it. She never taught me about being a woman. She taught Jada [Pinkett]. She was a loving mother to Jada, when they were in high school, I just happen to be in the room listening to that.”_
- Sekyiwa Shakur
Wow! That’s interesting. Thanks for the video suggestion and your insights.
I had a deep relationship and there was no sex. He died and I am still hurting 🤕 at times I feel sad.😟
may he rip, 😔🙏🙏🙏 , so sorry for your loss
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When? Last week... but my hand did seem to fatigue fast... for I type more than I *pen* longhand... yet, *it* felt great! 🙂
Can you read the letter you keep mentioning and let us determine for ourselves who lady A and B are?
@@cimarron628roberson3 the letter is in my community feed. I didn’t read it in full for copyright purposes.
She was and is all that mam an activist, author, rapper, a representative for our people. A POWERFUL BLACK WOMAN/LEADER!
Sister Souljah was also friends with Will and Jada. They use to take family trips together and stuff. Jada was supposed to play winter in the coldest winter ever movie (that Never happened) I wonder if Tupac introduced them
I would love to see that book mad into a movie that would be great if K Kemp could do it and Franklin Saint could play midnight 😍😍😍
Jada would be perfect in that role
Jada’s writing style in “Worthy” reminded me of “The Coldest Winter Ever”
Will didn't want Jada near Tupac & Death Row... You know because of the reputation and probably her love for Pac... Maybe she felt like that kept her from making amends with Tupac over the argument they had... And he died suddenly before she got the chance to make things right...😥
Hence why she low key will always have dat on and off anger towards will
I highly admire Souljah and I am an avid fan of her works. Great job on your research!
Its interesting that she proposed to Tupac considering the way she adamantly denied wanting to be married to Will. I think in her mind she settled for Will, and unknowingly resents him for it.
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We’re seeing that come full circle.
He proposed to her according to her book but it was out of convenience and she turned it down.. and keisha also said she overheard them spkin about marriage.. his cousin also said pac was going to marry jada
So Keisha said she spent the night with Tupac before he took off to Vegas. Now this is the third story I’ve heard of people saying they spent the last night with Tupac before he went to Vegas.
Omg I love your voice... u can do/read audio books
Thank you!
I too love listening to this queen's voice
@@RenieNostalgic you got the most beautiful reading voice, keep up the great work. 🇯🇲🇬🇧
@@marcellespencer124 Thank you!🙏🏾
Thank you for speaking so clearly. Many non- native English speakers appreciate that.
I'v written a few handwritten letters to my GFs over the years, but i've never gotten one myself.
Tupac was so dynamic. He captured the hearts of many women but like Sister Souljah said, I think he was lost. Keisha said she spoke to him and was with him prior to the Vegas incident but he was there, in Vegas, with Quincy Jone's daughter and she said she felt like they weren't supposed to be there. I think the lesson in all of this is to make sure you take the time to slow down and take everyone's feelings into consideration when you make decisions tbat could potentially effect them. Considering other's feelings despite your own desires could literally save your life.
Nah he really loved hard, And that’s why he was at a cross road wit himself when it came to his love life, he may have been into Poly lol
You snapped, there you go.
New sub, 🎉 soon as i saw 90s i said yes!!!! I was born 87, so the 90s was right up my era
I wish someone would look up the essence magazine issue from 1994 with jada speaks on will and how she was going to take him ? It was creepy when I read it so long ago
Thanks for the information on sister souljah ,didn't know much about her, we will never know who pac was talking about ,he knew so many women. May I suggest a video on tupac in new York, when he and nas meant. There is so many version ,the fans need the truth.💙💙💙💙
Thanks Stefan💙
Have you seen this one?
Nas Addresses 90's Beef with 2Pac and Defends Stretch!
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@@RenieNostalgic yeah ve seen this one,ok thanks 👍👍
@@stefansimpson7678 I’ll look into it a bit more.
@@stefansimpson7678pacs cousin confirmed pac said he wa going to propose and keisha also said inner interview she overheard pac n jada spkin about marriage
I think A is keshia and B is Jada. I think Tupac knew how Jada really felt about her and he didn't want to say anything that everyone would see. So he made it like there friendship was more than it was. I've seen a few interviews he's done and he made it clear that he loved Jada , but that they were friends. I think she really wanted him, to a point of obsession. I think he was confused, because of all he was going through. I also feel that he wanted Keshia near him and always wanted to be able talk to her and see her when he wanted to. Tupac was falling fast and hard for Keshia. So we have to let his story ends their , because he's not here to give us anymore chapters. RIP Pac!
Jada said she love PAC ..I believe PAC wanted the relationship but Jada didn't..she said she told PAC 2 times to kissed her but their was no nothing their
Jada has NEVER made anyone think she wanted Tupac. I don't have any male friends as close as they were. But I have plenty of male friends. EVERYONE of them have at some point wanted to date me and I only wanted friendship. It's not uncommon.
Please do a video on Tupac's siblings when you have the chance, I don't recall seeing any about them here! I don't know a lot about them either so I'm sure you would inform
Yes! I’m here for all of it ❤
He only have 1 sister
His sister set I’m not sure if you have read it yet but jasmine guy’s book on Afeni is a good read
Mopreme is his half brother
I can't even remember when I had a hard written letter from a Man
Sister Soulja is the Truth💪🏾💪🏾🥰🤗❤️👌🏾👌🏾😘
You broke that down so well!
Thank you
@@RenieNostalgic you're welcome darling
I'm sorry I wouldn't apologize for anything if it's the truth so be it
Your speech is amazing
Hi I just came across this I'm in the middle of doing something and I haven't had to pop up on my phone but I'm going to save it to watch for later thanks for sharing
Interesting video...I feel like Tupac was misunderstood by numerous people of his own RACE, that's not including other races, even though his life was brief, he went through a lot that the public knows about and probably more that the public weren't aware of. It's a shame how individuals accused him of things he had NO control over like the incident where this Trooper was murdered then fingers were directed at PAC, if a person give you a pistol of knife then tell you to kill another don't necessarily mean you have to do it, I'm pretty sure Tupac wrote whatever song the media was referring to as part of his album, one thing I learned about PAC and that is, he wrote what was on his heart or/and what was going on around in the Black community and/or globally. Dan Quayle can't relate to Tupac because he's probably never went through various hardships like Tupac or any other Negro that normally goes through who is maybe at the poverty line or below. All people who's anti-Tupac have no audacity to be judgmental toward PAC. Jesus said in the Holy Bible when they were wanting to stone Mary Magdalene for being caught in the very act of adultery...he who was without SIN cast the first stone...after thousands of years later, that verse still applies TODAY(100%)
Why didn't Jesus throw the stone?
@horsewithnoteeth3348 Jesus did not come to condemn. The on-lookers were attempted to condemning her for her actions.
please do your research...the woman being stoned was NOT the Magdelene
@@sweetdreams3119 Please do your research...who was it!?
Great Video!
Lmao, guess I'm the only one that actually read it. The part where he said, *they know of the other and I have tried to make it work as a threesome. Not sexually but commitment wise* was a dead giveaway. Jada knew Keisha was his girlfriend she told him she's not what he needs.
Lol exactly!! Yet people think that it was Desirée Tupac was talking about when Jada knew about Keisha and felt a way about get
of course lool people are slow its so obvious its keisha and jada
@@fartunyep4501 lol exactly
If Sistah Souljah ran for president OMG!
Love this commentary....
Good message sister
Love her to the moon and back
good work u did sister .. harry from Malawi the warm heart of Africa
Thank you Harry. I appreciate that!
Excellent video Thanks beautiful 😍
Great video thank you for sharing.
Sista Soldier read her book, much respect. Real reapper who is is very intelligent
Also, her novel "The Coldest Winter" is very good.
Pac's Pros and Cons with Woman B:
The old friend was bisexual. That was Con #1
She was busy with her career. Con #2
Pros..., She was there for him, before he was famous.
How do you know she bisexual she told you ?
@@QueenAnitaSoul1jada herself said she likes women…
Pro#2 she's rich ,and can help financially
Didn't the rapper Yo-Yo say Jada pinkett Smith was delusional because Tupac was for everybody and couldn't have loved her that deeply I saw that somewhere online
How did this become about jada when it’s PACs letter about his love for both Jada n Keisha lol.. and yoyo can’t talk cos pac has nevr expressed his luv for her like that she was jst 1 of many chicks he had
Yoyo also said in her interview with sway that pac was infatuatd with jada.. jada always said they were besties who lovd each other nothing more
@@sherylsutherland1183 yoyo didn’t know how deep their rel was… even pacs sister says pac always spoke abt jada and had her pics on his walls.. this letter also showed that pac was in luv wid jada n keisha only and trn between the 2
I was in the 11th grade the last time a boy hand wrote me a letter.
@ or near 10:21 thanx for this video, Renie, did u hear anything about him secretly dating #Salt of #SaltnPepa?
When we look at that #WhattaMan music video... it's highly plausible.
Thanks for watching. He wrote a letter to her too and dedicated his song to her kid. I think she said they were just friends though. I did a video on that.
The Truth About 2pac and Salt. The Whatta Man Video and His Poem to Her
ua-cam.com/video/-SUpJPsp0LY/v-deo.html
@@RenieNostalgic Ppl say 'of course she'd say that', think she was married or engaged to Gavin then. I'll check out that vid. thx.
Tupac said Jones is a divester. Where is the lie? Pac was always on point ☑
Ha
Right, like why are people mad at Pac for calling a thing a thing
@@TheHomegirlHealer that part ☑
...but he was engaged to his daughter Kidada at the time of his death. She was in Vegas with him. Rumor has it he also dated Madonna.
Tupac dodged at least one bullet in Jada. 🤦
Preach...... those kids.....OMG!
@@telam1744 😂
He was talking his ex wife n Jada..Jada is bi
Woman B is also bisexual 🤔
Obviously Jada imo
Definitely Jada
Jada is bi
How do you know ?
🥰 UA-camr GATURKS says: You've layed this out VERY well!
Interesting she’s saying something different promoting this book.
If you read her book, it connects the dots and confirms whatTupac said in that letter to sister Souljah.
seems like tupac used them like stepping stones, from keisha, jasa, kidida,madona
You're absolutely right. According to Jada's book, she knew she was being used. She was aware that Pac planned to use her to help eleviate the loneliness of his prison sentence. She agreed to his plan out of loyalty to their friendship. She expected they would get divorced as soon as he was released and resume their platonic friendship. However, she backed out the plan because Pac was expecting her to fulfill her wify duties...
No one knows the whole truth.
Wheeeeeww spicy
@20:30 where *He* said/wrote 'very sexual'... That has been said of #Virgos!
I know this is old but Reggie Wright from Deathrow said Pac and Jada took trips to Hawaii alone.They would also spend time in the studio.
Yeah, that's what Reggie said. It could be possible that he doesn't remember correctly. According to the other friends of Pac, it was actually a family trip. Jada and other close friends were there, too.
Where are all the pictures?
I agree hand written letters is a lost art 🥰. I believe woman B is Jada I don’t care what Jada says I believe her and 2 PAC was actually in love with each other regardless of they had sex or not
Woman A is Keisha, Tupac's ex wife.
Quincy Jones!! Aint a respected man and he is no legend. How come evil is always given a makeover 😏
He’s a legendary abuser !!!
I think woman B is Jasmine. She supported him through a lot in the background.
Jasmine did not know 2pac before he was famous
@@Dobbs2011She Knew Him While They Was Acting Doesn’t Matter If She Had Him At Her Crib After The Quad Studios Shit
@@KouDaDonnope it was jada.. only she knew him before the fame and was bi..Keisha confirmed he overheard pac n jada tlkn bout marriage and pacs cousin also said it was jada
@@KouDaDonin other videos pac always jst said jasmine helped him a lot that’s it.. but with jada he always expressd his love for her.. Jasmine also said jada was th closest to pc
@@Blessed855 That’s Where I’m Getting At Despite What Jada Do Or Has Done When It Comes To Speaking On Pac Name She Thought He Was Her 4Ever After And She Would Be His Cause Thats All She Know Is Pac As A Friend Brother Or As Someone She See As A Distant Lover But Maybe In The Next Life
Woman A is definitely Keisha. Desiree and Pac stopped talking before the Quad Studio shooting and did not reconnect until after Keisha and Pac split. (as soon as Keisha left he moved Desiree to the town where the prison was...lol MEN!) When he says she is from the streets I really think he means she is a normal person and not in show biz. In his letters to Angela Ardis he says Jada proposed to him out of pity, so woman B is likely her but I do wonder too if she was Madonna!
Desiree was a non-factor. Ever since her Art interviews fans are taking her word as gospel. She has told some lies and has gaps in her story. Pac never sent for Desiree to make the move to Dannemora. She went up there after learning he was married. Side chicks are attracted to taken men that's why she spites Keisha. She was competing for his attention and affection. Desiree came up in the late summer/fall on her off days from school. Keisha had already left and went on a vacay. Pac then used Desiree, who was fresh out of high school to visit him. Yasmyn arranged her visit. Desiree was happy to get laid and smoke weed with a superstar. I also think she slept with Kadafi and Big Syke too.
@@angelindisguise3204 Thanks for the reply, that's interesting. Do you know why Keisha has been completely erased from Tupac's story? Did his family not like her? I know Pac got mad when Keisha went on holiday but there must be more to why people act like she never existed. in Yasmyn's book 'spirit of an outlaw' she says that she was the one holding 'pac down in prison and doesn't mention Keisha even once and no mention of the marriage at all. It's so weird.
@@Emmz-hr6tm Quincy Jones was her boss! So there's your answer. Money talks! Keisha never did anything but hold down her husband at his worst. She's not a celebrity with a PR machine to spin narratives. She took her vows seriously for better or for worst! Heck, Pac married her without signing a prenup that's a big deal! I don't think Keisha cares about ppl writing books creating their own version of Pac's life. What matters is Pac acknowledged her and real fans know what she meant to him. She doesn't need to seek approval from anyone. I believe Yas was the family member that told Keisha the line about her "15 minutes of fame." She's a hater! I remember when she said horrible things about EDI and Noble. Yas was present when Pac got out of prison. I believe it was her that disrespected Keisha and she's still doing it with her revisionist history. But I'm not shocked at all, if you pay attention she's irrational and kisses Jones family ass.
@@angelindisguise3204 Thanks for the great reply! WOW! That makes a lot of sense, yes I bet it was Yas that said that, because she basically took over Keisha's role in his life business wise. Damn so unprincipled and unloyal, the opposite of what Tupac stood for. Ugly behaviour. Keisha was and remains a class act, Pac was very lucky to have her. I hope the new 'official' bio that is coming out later this year puts some respect on Keisha's name, she deserves it. I am pretty sure 'Never Call U B again' is about Keisha.
Madonna didn't know Pac before he was famous. The one person who fits the description of Woman B is Jada. I am starting to wonder how truthful Pac was in that letter to Angela because years ago Jaden Smith said Pac had proposed to his mother. I figured Jaden was confused because Jada told him that to save face but Pac's cousin, William Lesane, said in a recent interview that while in prison Pac told him that he wanted to marry Jada and move to Arizona. Maybe he proposed to Jada and she is the one who turned him down.
Jada wasn't loyal and capable of loving anyone back then in the 90s that's jada still the same today Tupac and her just friends.will and her are just friends.her kids and her are just friends she's just the friendliest person in the industry 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Women A was definitely Jada and Women B is definitely Keisha, those two were two important people in his life at that point in time
He says Woman B knew him before he was in the industry. He and Jada met in the 80s when they were in high school.
@@gemi96377 A is Jada and women B is Keisha….
@chan2009ify How if he met Keisha in the 90s after he became famous? Below is an excerpt from his 1995 letter to Sister Souljah in which he describes both women. Images of the handwritten letter can be found all over the internet. Woman B is clearly Jada.
"I love one woman (A) because she's dependable, loving, supportive, and she's young and open to me guiding her through this crazy life (Who am I 2 guide?) Anyway woman "A" is from the streets and that's all she knows but I can see and feel how much she loves me. Woman "B" on the other hand is famous, rich, and able to assist me financially, loving, and very sexual. She's known me since before I got into the business and she's been there from the jump. However, she's bisexual and so into her career that we don't have much time together. So I'm literally torn between an old friend who went from being of a platonic nature to a potential wife and a new friend who has been there through the whole gunshot/rape/near death experience."
@@gemi96377 Yes woman A is Keisha and woman B is Jada, I got them confused.
YEP THAT HAPPING TODAY
DON'T GET THE GAME TWEETED KNOW YOUR PEOPLE THE GAMES PEOPLE PLAY 😴 BETTER TO BE POOR THEN TO BE SINFUL AND RICH. ✔
Wait i wonder if tupac is midnight???....
This video is full of your opinions..🤦🏿♀️
Well why are you watching it why every time you have to come on a video with negativity and disrespect. Some always have to come with hate and think they can just say anything to a person you don't even know or met before.
Y’all Forget Jasmine Guy And Karyn Persons (Hillary Banks)
None of those women knew him before he was famous.
@@luciverdad4834 That’s Not The Point
@@luciverdad4834He Had A Platonic Bond With Some Women Some Sexual And Some Friendship And More Pac Had Bonds With Alot Of Women No Matter The Ties
@@KouDaDon What is your point then? Tupac said Woman A is from the streets and is open for him to hide her. He said Woman B had known him since before he got into the business and she's been there from the jump. Those descriptions don't fit Jasmine Guy or Karyn Parsons.
@@luciverdad4834 When I Did Comment This It Was To Mention Other Women That He Also Had Which Was Alot
Does anybody know what exact book Tupac was talking about that sister souljah wrote
19:50
Maybe the other woman was Kidada Jones not Jada Pinkett. Madonna isn't far fetch because of the love letter Pac wrote to Madonna
@@Blessed855 lol long read but ok
Kidada and Madonna wasn't wit him before the fame can u read lol
Why apologize, was Tupac forced?
Woman B could be Jasmine Guy he also dates her but woman A is for sure Keisha
Jasmine did not know him before he was famous. He’s talking about Jada.
One of the best voice... Nice sexy teeth gap
Has to be Jada shame he isn’t around to explain. RIP Tupac 💙
Akil the MC is tupac 2022
I did a video on that.
Why Many Believe Tupac Is Alive Today
ua-cam.com/video/dvCSFOWIgyw/v-deo.html
Akil is on UA-cam, you should check out his channel.
they pulled this shit with the rock musicians to with there lyrics and kids saying that AC-DC made them do it lolo but now i dont know, these guys actually rappin about killing ppl....that they've actually killed! but its all my fault!!!
What Goz around come around; she has no problem w insulting BLK men in frt of dah sisters, she may be supportive of dah sisters but leave a lot of space when it comes to dah brothers; a reeel fake, she appears.
Funny how rashida said “your people” honey you may not look black, but that black blood is running all thru your veins. I never liked rashida, just her tv work. I heard her sister is much nicer than her.
damn not sure how to take this. the "rape" acknowledgement ....
No the reason Jada and Tupac fell out was after he came out of prison a few months after, both of them had a major argument about him being on Death Row with Suge
When Pac came out of jail he was still praising Jada. Things only got heated after Jada got mad at him for being with Death Row
I wonder why the ex wife never went to go visit him on hodpital in vegas when he got shot
Because Afeni had strife with Keisha ( she was the first woman Tupac loved deeply and Afeni was threatened) and also because kadida was there. It would've been too much confusion. The real question should be why Jada didn't go see him?
@@ohanaohana8844Jada said in her book that Afeni told her she didn't have to rush to visit him because Pac would be okay. Jada planned to visit him but he passed a few days prior.
Bisexual……..who’s that?
Woman B, who many believe is Jada. 🤷🏾♀️
Oh, ok. Thanks
@@dionneorr5599 yes I heard she was Bi
I thought YoYo was the one he wanted to be with. I don't believe it was Jada.
I don't who it was but I just don't believe it was Jada. He is not here to deny or say who he meant & Jada could say how close they were but anybody say anything when the person is gone & can't agree nor deny what they say. Tupac knew too many women & anybody can say who he was speaking but we don't know who he was speaking of. If I'm wrong, so be it but I don't believe Jada was as important as she pretend to be, he's not here to dispute it. She can say he asked to marry her & anything else to make herself seem more important than she was to him. Think about it. I can say I met Michael Jackson & we fell in love & no1 else knew about the proposal or us meeting. He's gone. Who would know wat the real truth was.
@Ant Jim What???
@Ant Jim Remember Jada did say as well as Will & Pacs friends said they never had sex. Their relationship was plutonic. Jada also said herself that she was addicted to sex. Ok, they loved each other, she's sexually addictive, & Pac was accused of rape(which I also don't believe) but who knows. His friends said she wasn't as important as she pretends. Pac was a great rapper & I care less about who he fucked actually. He say, she say, we say, doesn't matter. They & God only knows the real truth. I still have my opinion & I stated it. Now!
@Ant Jim looks like Jada was everybody else's booty call except Pac's. She say she's addicted to sex & she & Pac loved each other yet she gave it up to everyone but Pac. Ok, so I guess they had such special kind of love that each of them that could be with whom ever they mostly wanted.restrained themselves from doing each other. She probably would have raped pac if anything. Ijs
#placagewomen study it
Wasn’t 2Pac married when he died. Or with Kidada, every time I see that video of Jada crying. It 1 always made me sick. She wasn’t the woman in 2Pac arms leading up to or the end of his life. How she sitting there saying, “ It’s a once in a life time “ love “. Boo hooing like, that wasn’t her and Will
“ together “. ? Then that only says she was playing Will Smith for a sucker. Used Will shine and weakness for her benefit. While in love with someone else, that is a very sick person.
He was engaged to Kidada not married when he died.
That's so true she used will .
@@Dobbs2011Tupac was not engaged to Tupac
@@chan2009ify what?
@@Dobbs2011 what? Can you not read?
It might have been madonna
You have one of the females incorrect. The girl from the street is Pac's side chick from NYC. I believe her name is Desere
I wonder if Jada know about Rashida Jones😆😆😆😆
@Santiago 👌🏾
Can we get on his and yo yo secret daughter. Her oldest
Spreading rumors
@@QueenAnitaSoul1 her name is Tiffany and it’s a fact. If you never knew of this, say that! But don’t accuse me of spreading anything BUT the truth! Now have a good day as this is my FINAL reply‼️
🤔 Woman "B" is Jada but woman "A" is NOT Kiesha. 👀 Tupac described Kiesha as quiet, a good girl and a "square" (his words) that was studying criminal justice when he met her. Woman "A" has to be Desiree who was a bad girl that was 6 years younger than Pac.
Yes, being “from the streets” made me question if it was Keisha. I’ve watched many Desiree Smith interviews. They definitely had a deep love for one another. Thanks for the comment.
Wrong women A is indeed Keisha Moriss, he was never in love with Desiree Smith and she was nothing but a pass around a homie. There's no possible way it could've been Desirée they weren't even that serious like that. His reference to the "streets" was Keisha being a NY native
And Jada knew about Keisha she never knew about Desirée because she wasn't important enough like that
@@chan2009ify 1) Pac describing Kiesha = She’s nice, she’s quiet, she’s a square, she’s a good girl. She’s twenty-two, she’s a Scorpio, she . . . just graduated from John Jay College with a degree in criminal science, and she’s taken a year off, she’s going to go to law school . . .
*** You cannot be a "square" and a "good girl" and street. Miss me with all that denial. 2) Pac's letter: "Woman "A" is from the streets and that's all she knows. I can see and feel how much she loves me." Woman "A" described as = Street, dependable, loving, supportive, young. (Desiree= Self proclaimed "bad girl" that was 6 years younger than Pac. Even if its not her it still aint Kiesha.)
@@believeit8103 What the hell are you talking about? Lol. Yes Tupac described Keisha as all that you mentioned but that doesn’t mean that Keisha didn’t come from the streets. Keisha is a NY native and that’s most likely what he meant by “the streets is all she knew” because NY is her origin and where she came from. Tupac describing her a “dependable loving and supportive” is absolutely Keisha he was talking about and no other woman. As Keisha was one of the few women who showed him genuine love and wanted nothing from him but to support him through his trial and during the time he was locked up. No other woman held him down quite like Keisha Moriss. She was the one he was describing, dating and in love with at that time. It’s impossible for it to be Desiree as Tupac didn’t love her the way he showed love to Keisha. That was his girl at the time not an underaged groupie like Desiree.
I don't know why people are always trying to put Tupac with Jada when he clearly said they were just friends. Tupac didn't want Jada in a sexual way. Tupac was with Quincy Jones daughter. She was the one he wanted to be with. People try to attach themselves to Tupac because he's still looked at as a legend 🙄
Tupac and Jada said they never had sexuall feelings towards each other
Clearly their relationship was a lot more nuanced and complicated than they wanted the public to know. Kadada Jones was just the lady of the day. She wasn't going to be in the picture long. Despite what a few ignorant comedians want people to believe, all the evidence is pointing to Pac and Jada being more than just friends.
He didn’t want her either