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Amazing job, great vid. I have a Marin bobcat from the same era that needs the same treatment. Not planning on respraying mine but looking forward to mechanically restoring it.
I converted to 1x8: 11-40 cassette in the back, 40 tooth narrow-wide chainring in the front. Makes for a good cruiser with some climbing ability. Everything else cosmetic: Schwalbe Billy Bonkers, changed saddle and grips, got a front rack for the commuter look 👍 but coming from road bikes everything takes ages
Great vid as usual. The term is Restomod. I watched a recent old shovel video he had a similar issue with the paint powder but that's only on the fluorescent range. Stx rc the only groupset I ever bought as a full set. 22 years later rear derailleur still working fine.
There's something about these old pre-suspension 26" mountain bikes that just looks "right" to my eyes. I agree about using a threadless stem adapter. It just wouldn't have looked right. Only change I'd make it using riser bars (but that is because I'm old lol)
I was originally going to use threadless so I could fit some 31.8mm modern wide bars to it but I'm more happy with the Girvin and the narrow bars now. Especially because the Girvin is pink :)
@@oftankoftan eh, gravel bikes are essentially just retro mtbs with drop bars from what i can tell. If this Marin had 28" or 27.5" wheels and drop bars, it would look almost indistinguishable from what people call a "gravel bike".
You can get thread-less stem adapters that have a sharper angle between the two diameters, so less of it sticks out. It doesn’t matter anyway because that Girvin stem looks really good. I really want to try one of those stems. I bet it makes for a wild ride. I love the paint job too. Keep up the good work!
Hey man! cheers for the email reply. Much appreciated. You did a good job on the paint! it's really tough to get a good job done with rattle cans. It's so daunting to start with and very frustrating too. I like the flashes! I used to have some shell pants like that! haha
No problem 👍 I've done plenty of spraying before in fact I once bought a spray gun and a couple of Gazebos and resprayed my car on my parents drive but on bikes I've definitely leaned more towards powder coat in the last few years
Nice job. I have a 1992 model about to be worked on as my Africa touring bike. I'm going to stick with the 3 x 7 and go for a 34-14 cluster and 22-32-42 chain ring. That will give me a low gear of less than 20" and a high gear of nearly 80".
This is the level I've been waiting for from you! You're a great mechanic, but some of your other work has been left with rusty, unpolished parts. This is F-ing mint.
@@MonkeyShred That all depends what your goals for the project is. If you're just doing a quick fixer-upper, then it doesn't make sense to disassemble everything and polish to perfection. I fix bikes and sell them too, and your biggest enemy is time.
I love that moment when you turn the cranks, shift the gears and it all works. Then you spend four hours getting it just right, the brakes are out, the front mech won't shift, the front wheel has some how got buckled from the time you put it in till now. But just before you toss it in the nearest skip, you drop it and realise, if I tweak that, it'll be fine...
Alternative way for the stem adapters is using the lower part only cut the the upper parts and use am adaptor shim, it looks good on slam position. Though some case you might want to re-thread the long stem screw.
That might be a bit dodgy if the stem isn't properly inserted or the adapter isn't in to the fork enough. I've took in bikes before where the stem was run WAY too high and it damaged the fork.
@@MonkeyShred There's stem adapter that isn't in tapered shape, so you can really slam the stem. Also if the adapter long enough you can put spacers between the stem and the headset, kinda mimicking the ahead stem system in case you need higher cockpit setup.
Great restoration and retro paint scheme👍. I was curious to know, with some of the older late 80s and early 90s MTB frames, is it possible that the frame and forks can accommodate 27.5 wheels or is the spacing a bit to tight for circumference height? I'm guessing hub width on a 27.5 wheel would be ok to slot straight in or am I wrong? 🤔
a Flexi stem too, The first front suspension, if you could call it that? I had a turbo-matic saddle which had similar technology, a nice renovation and modernise
I’ve had trouble running an 11-42 cassette with that 10sp derailleur it seems to shift but puts too much stress on the hanger so it ends up bent. Instead I wound up on M7000 it works with fine 10sp shifters but m5120 is available now and will go even higher to 46t
Great looking rebuild! I really like the spray.bike paintjob on this one. It's not always about the result, sometimes it's more about the fact that youve done it yourself. Btw, I think the finish came out great on this one!
I've got one of these in the shed ready to restore, been waiting for a decent secondhand seatpost (was missing) to pop up on eBay as they are retro 26.2mm and its just arrived so will be on with it soon. Not sure whether to use the spray.bike or get it powdercoated.
I rode thesame marin which I got from A cycle shop in Taunton 1989 while I was working that way... mine survived till about 1991 when a light handed person took it from my garage :( I replace it with a later with bear vally then on to a Kona Explosive in 1993
Love the way this one turned out. What size cassette did you use, and do you find that you have gears with only the 38T chainring? I was thinking giving the 1x thing a try on my next project .
Thanks! Off the top of my head... I think the cassette was 11-42. I've climbed up a fairly steep hill locally without any issue but top end suffers on downhills.
iv watched alot of your vids thx, iv got a 1970s favorit special frame and had no luck finding decals for it i wondered if you could suggest somewhere? keep up the good work
8 speed didn't really come in until 92/93 I believe and even then it was only the top end gear like Shimano XTR, Dura Ace or 600. This one came with Mountain LX I think. Or Exage Mountain. I forget. It was definitely 7 speed though.
Terrific job mate ! I'm personally very unhappy with Spray.bike and don't really understand why they're so popular. I've tried them several times and have read tons about it, watched videos, etc. When I last repainted my frame, I did literally everything by the book, from primer to finish, all the recommended ones. And the quality just isn't there ! I have repainted frames with Montana cans in the past and I really can't say I've seen any difference between the two (except for the price 😅).
Hello!!! Good morning, I would like to know if you can help me, I have a MTB from the 90s. But I have a question, I don't know its size and I searched the internet and I haven't found anything. This is a 58 horizontal tube and a 43 vertical tube. Could you tell me what size this tube measurement is equivalent to? A greeting and thanks in advance.
@@MonkeyShred I think that there is a 5 mil difference between the gaps between the dropouts on my old Scott Tampico 1994 model MTB and the OLD distance of wheels with 8 or 9 speed freehubs. That MTB is off the road and at some point I want to buy a new rear wheel and fit a new gear cassette and chain.
Just a quick question, i am 180cm (5'9") high. I want to buy marin mtb with 18 inch frame and 26 inch wheels. Will it be ok for me to ride that size of bike ? Tnx. Great job 😁
I think I got mine from SJS Cycles however I have linked one on Amazon in the description. Make sure to double check diameters of the frame and fork crown though as these do vary.
How to say "Marin": 1. Say "marinate" 2. Say "marin" like in "marinate'. Make a note: Option 1 3. Say "Marin" but not like in marinate. Repeat that a few times. Make a note: Option 2 4. Do Option 1 and Option 2 sound different? Good. Stick with Option 2 and you'll fit right in out here on the West Coast of nowhere. 5. Say "huh?" but make it real long. Huuhhh?
@@MonkeyShred No need. You sort of asked the question near the beginning. I was just answering and being silly. Great video. This one is very much like my ongoing Frankenbike, a 95 RM Equipe. I've made most of the same upgrades.
@@MonkeyShred yes...although, they were more of a ProFlex thang really...contemporary for the time though. That said, you’d need to fit a brace to the front and rear so the frame doesn’t snap
Came out nice. Shouldn't have spent that much time on a Walmart level bike. But I reckon a real bike would never have been left out in the rain for decades.
Walmart level 😂 Pretty sure a Marin is well about a Walmart level bike but thanks! It was stored in a barn BTW - it's just been used a lot of the last 30 years. Testiment to the build quality back then.
@@MonkeyShred Well it sure came out nice. Now you have endless hours invested in a $300 commuter bike.The Walmart dig was just a point of reference comparing the quality of entry level bike shop brands to department store brands .Now if you had put that effort into a Marin with a hand made American frame and adorned it with quality vintage components, you would end up with something collectable and even enjoyable to ride in the dirt. Bicycles are a lot like guitars. Dolling up a $300 Stratocaster serves no purpose. It might look pretty, but there is a reason Fender and Marin produce and sell ten different levels of product.Cheers.
There isn't really a V Brake specific hub. From my experience a 10 speed cassette can slot on to a 7,8 and 9 speed freehub. Some of the older 7 speeds may not be compatible though.
AWESOME
**deep inhale of breath** OMG, Marin saw my build
AWESOME
Marin...probably the coolest bike company out there! Nice work!
oh my i didn't see that coming
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I stupidly forgot my password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me
This is my first YpuTube "Premiere" :-) Staying up late down under to see this resto-mod.
Me too
Thanks guys!
古いバイクだけど、古さを感じない新しいバイク。かっこいい
私と同じ年に生まれたバイク
Thanks!
Incredible paint job
Thank you! I really enjoyed it.
I'm absolutely in love with retro Marins. Really glad you tagged some nice accounts in your insta story.
Glad you like them!
Great looking MTB! Blast from the past with that splatter paint job!
Thanks. I really love those old fluro / fade / splatter designs.
Amazing job, great vid. I have a Marin bobcat from the same era that needs the same treatment. Not planning on respraying mine but looking forward to mechanically restoring it.
Currently converting a early 90s Rockhopper - some nice tips for me in this one here. Thanks for your videos 👍 Bike looks awesome
Thanks. Good luck with your build.
I'm looking to do this now. What did you do to yours? How'd it work out?
I converted to 1x8: 11-40 cassette in the back, 40 tooth narrow-wide chainring in the front. Makes for a good cruiser with some climbing ability. Everything else cosmetic: Schwalbe Billy Bonkers, changed saddle and grips, got a front rack for the commuter look 👍 but coming from road bikes everything takes ages
Turned out super amazing! Loved the whole building process too, one of your finest works yet for sure!
Thanks a ton! Glad you like it.
Great vid as usual. The term is Restomod.
I watched a recent old shovel video he had a similar issue with the paint powder but that's only on the fluorescent range.
Stx rc the only groupset I ever bought as a full set. 22 years later rear derailleur still working fine.
Thanks! I used the STX RC Shadow chrome on an old Ascent build. Loved the way that group looked.
@@MonkeyShred back when I bought it, it was great value.
Nice marin build very clean ! i just built up a kellys steel trekking bike 1 x 9 set up - the narrow wide chainrings transform the bike 100%
Saves a lot of chain drop eh?!
I really enjoyed that build.
Glad to hear it!
There's something about these old pre-suspension 26" mountain bikes that just looks "right" to my eyes. I agree about using a threadless stem adapter. It just wouldn't have looked right. Only change I'd make it using riser bars (but that is because I'm old lol)
best part is they'd probably smoke gravel bikes on trails.
I was originally going to use threadless so I could fit some 31.8mm modern wide bars to it but I'm more happy with the Girvin and the narrow bars now. Especially because the Girvin is pink :)
Agree totally. They also make brilliant heavy duty commuter/town bikes when built up properly.
@@oftankoftan
eh, gravel bikes are essentially just retro mtbs with drop bars from what i can tell. If this Marin had 28" or 27.5" wheels and drop bars, it would look almost indistinguishable from what people call a "gravel bike".
You can get thread-less stem adapters that have a sharper angle between the two diameters, so less of it sticks out. It doesn’t matter anyway because that Girvin stem looks really good. I really want to try one of those stems. I bet it makes for a wild ride.
I love the paint job too. Keep up the good work!
Thanks. I've ridden a couple of bikes with Flexstem's but not noticed too much of a difference.
@@MonkeyShred do you think it gives any shock absorption at all?
@@MonkeyShred do you think it gives any shock absorption at all?
perfect restoration and modification...
Thanks!
I really liked the end result reminds me of the 1989 gt Tequesta salmon pink paint job thanks for the video
Thanks for watching!
Very nice friend !!! Let's continue to shape what we love about bikes. A greeting ; )
Many thanks!!
Hey man! cheers for the email reply. Much appreciated. You did a good job on the paint! it's really tough to get a good job done with rattle cans. It's so daunting to start with and very frustrating too. I like the flashes! I used to have some shell pants like that! haha
No problem 👍 I've done plenty of spraying before in fact I once bought a spray gun and a couple of Gazebos and resprayed my car on my parents drive but on bikes I've definitely leaned more towards powder coat in the last few years
@@MonkeyShred Hey man what size axle, washers and dome nut did you use to get the BB cup off? I have a similar problem...
So glad you did a Marin 🤩👍 Looks Amazing 👌
I've done one before, well, two if you count the budget. :)
Superb job! I would have chosen a different stem and handlebar maybe, but that’s just me.
Thanks! I have a wider blue Club Roost bar on there now. It’s a bit nicer to wider with.
Lovely build! Well done mate!
Thanks!
Nice job. I have a 1992 model about to be worked on as my Africa touring bike. I'm going to stick with the 3 x 7 and go for a 34-14 cluster and 22-32-42 chain ring. That will give me a low gear of less than 20" and a high gear of nearly 80".
Really like how it looks, good job.
Thanks. Me too. :)
Excellent retromod Monkey shread.
Thanks!
That looks like D Schneider from Twisted Sister designed that paint job.
I'll take that!
Tourned out really nice, i love the Paintjob 👌
Thanks, me too!
You've turned this piece of rust into a total bae
Thanks! Love how it turned out.
wow that turned out great!
Thank you.
This is the level I've been waiting for from you!
You're a great mechanic, but some of your other work has been left with rusty, unpolished parts. This is F-ing mint.
Thanks! I do try and read and acknowledge all the comments so yeh, if you see something you think could be improved. Let me know.
@@MonkeyShred That all depends what your goals for the project is. If you're just doing a quick fixer-upper, then it doesn't make sense to disassemble everything and polish to perfection. I fix bikes and sell them too, and your biggest enemy is time.
really liking the looks, nicely done!
Thank you!
I love that moment when you turn the cranks, shift the gears and it all works. Then you spend four hours getting it just right, the brakes are out, the front mech won't shift, the front wheel has some how got buckled from the time you put it in till now.
But just before you toss it in the nearest skip, you drop it and realise, if I tweak that, it'll be fine...
Seems like you have a rough time!
Lovely job & big tickle to Torvi.
She needs the tickles at the moment with all the fireworks!
Nice work 👍
Thanks 👍
Alternative way for the stem adapters is using the lower part only cut the the upper parts and use am adaptor shim, it looks good on slam position. Though some case you might want to re-thread the long stem screw.
That might be a bit dodgy if the stem isn't properly inserted or the adapter isn't in to the fork enough. I've took in bikes before where the stem was run WAY too high and it damaged the fork.
@@MonkeyShred There's stem adapter that isn't in tapered shape, so you can really slam the stem. Also if the adapter long enough you can put spacers between the stem and the headset, kinda mimicking the ahead stem system in case you need higher cockpit setup.
Looks class. Great job.
Thank you very much!
looks amazing
Thanks!
What a fantastic project and bike!
Great restoration and retro paint scheme👍. I was curious to know, with some of the older late 80s and early 90s MTB frames, is it possible that the frame and forks can accommodate 27.5 wheels or is the spacing a bit to tight for circumference height? I'm guessing hub width on a 27.5 wheel would be ok to slot straight in or am I wrong? 🤔
Nice build 👍👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
a Flexi stem too, The first front suspension, if you could call it that? I had a turbo-matic saddle which had similar technology, a nice renovation and modernise
Bravo!!
This is a great work.
Thanks!
Nice build! Paint job looks good. Let us know how it rides now you have done the mods.
Will do! Hope to have a ride video put together soon.
I’ve had trouble running an 11-42 cassette with that 10sp derailleur it seems to shift but puts too much stress on the hanger so it ends up bent. Instead I wound up on M7000 it works with fine 10sp shifters but m5120 is available now and will go even higher to 46t
Great looking rebuild! I really like the spray.bike paintjob on this one. It's not always about the result, sometimes it's more about the fact that youve done it yourself. Btw, I think the finish came out great on this one!
Thanks 👍 I do absolutely love the result. A little more paint would have allowed me to smooth some things out. Maybe next time.
Very nice
Thanks
Please
Well done Sir
Thanks
Brilliant transformation! What colours of Spray.Paint are they? The red half colour is amazing
Thanks. It was Bayswater Blue and Strawberry Hill pink :)
@@MonkeyShred Thank you, keep up the good work!
Love it, top work 👍
Thanks 👍
Great work!
Thanks!
not my type of bike but You did an amazing job!
I've got one of these in the shed ready to restore, been waiting for a decent secondhand seatpost (was missing) to pop up on eBay as they are retro 26.2mm and its just arrived so will be on with it soon. Not sure whether to use the spray.bike or get it powdercoated.
Sweet. Good luck with the build. Hope it goes well.
nice video :)
Thanks!
Had one back in the day
Did you enjoy it?
Hope someday, I have Marin Gestalt
The make some great retro rides.
nice one.I would have walked past this one due to the rust.
It wasn't quite that visible on the ad photos... still, it worked out in the end.
Who are the jerks that didn’t like this video?!
Ah people don't have to like everything. It's ok :)
Surprised you got that bottom bracket out so easy... was expecting it to be seized
Clamping the tool to the cup helps so much.
I just hate long stems on retro bikes. In my opinion short stems with black rims absolutely updates these bikes to another level
Recommended grips "Grey's grips "
Awesome! i want to start to restore any kind of bike it deserves to be restore...where do you find your bikes?
I rode thesame marin which I got from A cycle shop in Taunton 1989 while I was working that way... mine survived till about 1991 when a light handed person took it from my garage :( I replace it with a later with bear vally then on to a Kona Explosive in 1993
Delicious!
Very!
Love the way this one turned out. What size cassette did you use, and do you find that you have gears with only the 38T chainring? I was thinking giving the 1x thing a try on my next project .
Thanks! Off the top of my head... I think the cassette was 11-42. I've climbed up a fairly steep hill locally without any issue but top end suffers on downhills.
I’ve used spray.bike colors but I find that using 2k clear is easier. Dries faster and finish is harder
Keep IT! 💙💜 Wann see more content with it! 😜
It's so pretty isn't it!
Monkeyshred I think you could lose a few links from the chain, lighter , faster, stronger. What do you reckon ? Nice build.
Possibly. Not that much of a weight weenie though.
Excellent job again (I'm not fan of splatter paint but hey ho) What are the gear ratios now please MonkeyShred?
Up front I have a 38T ring and on the rear I have a 11-42T.
@@MonkeyShred I think I could get up Thornecliffe on 38x42 lol. Thanks for reply.
the name of the bike is 'palisades trail'. my second mountain bike was the 1993 model.
It is. Well, on the bike itself it was just Palisades, but in the catalogue it's listed as Palisades Trail.
Igor approves.
Thanks
iv watched alot of your vids thx, iv got a 1970s favorit special frame and had no luck finding decals for it i wondered if you could suggest somewhere? keep up the good work
H Lloyd Cycles are generally pretty good for older bikes like that.
@@MonkeyShred thanx very much
Curious what the the original drivetrain was on the bike? I'm looking at a used one right now, hoping it had an 8 speed cassette?
8 speed didn't really come in until 92/93 I believe and even then it was only the top end gear like Shimano XTR, Dura Ace or 600. This one came with Mountain LX I think. Or Exage Mountain. I forget. It was definitely 7 speed though.
Terrific job mate ! I'm personally very unhappy with Spray.bike and don't really understand why they're so popular. I've tried them several times and have read tons about it, watched videos, etc. When I last repainted my frame, I did literally everything by the book, from primer to finish, all the recommended ones. And the quality just isn't there !
I have repainted frames with Montana cans in the past and I really can't say I've seen any difference between the two (except for the price 😅).
Ah thanks for the input! I was looking at giving Spray.Bike another go and then trying the montana cans to see the difference myself.
Sehr gut erklärt... Schade.. Ich dachte erst das er den Rahmen eine andere Farbe gibt.
Which colour would you like to see?
I’m from 1989 as wel,I also need new parts and new skin,then my wife would ride me again she said.
In your dreams Tom in your dreams,keep on dreaming Tom
Haha hope your dreams pan out Tom
10/10
The frame seems to be the same as french decathlon bikes built during the 1990's.
Possible! I'm sure older designs of the "main" MTB companies were adopted by stores later on.
Can this ride in the snow?
Hello!!! Good morning, I would like to know if you can help me, I have a MTB from the 90s. But I have a question, I don't know its size and I searched the internet and I haven't found anything. This is a 58 horizontal tube and a 43 vertical tube. Could you tell me what size this tube measurement is equivalent to? A greeting and thanks in advance.
Wowsa!
So you had to widen the rear axle dropouts to fit the new 10 speed cassette?
Nope. I've often found 7 Speed freehubs will accept 10 speed cassettes.
@@MonkeyShred I think that there is a 5 mil difference between the gaps between the dropouts on my old Scott Tampico 1994 model MTB and the OLD distance of wheels with 8 or 9 speed freehubs. That MTB is off the road and at some point I want to buy a new rear wheel and fit a new gear cassette and chain.
Just a quick question, i am 180cm (5'9") high. I want to buy marin mtb with 18 inch frame and 26 inch wheels. Will it be ok for me to ride that size of bike ? Tnx.
Great job 😁
Should be I reckon. I ride 17/18" at a similar height
Mind to share ur painting part? I think I not only one want it😊
The painting part can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/4ZF-nzzmNr4/v-deo.html
1:37 looks like a helmet...😁😁
I can see that now you say.
10:05 green-eyes supervisor =)
Sorry, looking at the comments below it’s a restomod. Where did you source the headset from? I have a 80’s GT that needs a replacement headset.
I think I got mine from SJS Cycles however I have linked one on Amazon in the description. Make sure to double check diameters of the frame and fork crown though as these do vary.
do you use a torque wrench when installing the bottom bracket?
Nope. Just my arm.
what threadless adapter did you go for at first?
It was just a generic one I found.
How to say "Marin":
1. Say "marinate"
2. Say "marin" like in "marinate'. Make a note: Option 1
3. Say "Marin" but not like in marinate. Repeat that a few times. Make a note: Option 2
4. Do Option 1 and Option 2 sound different? Good. Stick with Option 2 and you'll fit right in out here on the West Coast of nowhere.
5. Say "huh?" but make it real long. Huuhhh?
I know the pronounciation changes a bit with me. Sorry.
@@MonkeyShred No need. You sort of asked the question near the beginning. I was just answering and being silly.
Great video. This one is very much like my ongoing Frankenbike, a 95 RM Equipe. I've made most of the same upgrades.
Hello! Where you got that oil slick bolts from?
He has a link in the description (which if you use will give a kick back from Amazon to him but not cost you anything).
I actually found mine on eBay but as Paul says, I do have a link in the description to Amazon if you use that.
V BRAKES ON A 1989 MARIN!?!
Criminal!
Also, 1 by on a 1989?
has to be either a 3 by or a 2 by!
Ah you edited your comment before I could reply and changed it to 3x 😂
Ah don't worry, it might get some nice hydraulic Magura's soon 😉
@@MonkeyShred yes...although, they were more of a ProFlex thang really...contemporary for the time though.
That said, you’d need to fit a brace to the front and rear so the frame doesn’t snap
Those frames have enough space for a 10 speed cassette?
It had a 135mm rear so yes. It's the freehub itself you need to check too though.
Came out nice. Shouldn't have spent that much time on a Walmart level bike. But I reckon a real bike would never have been left out in the rain for decades.
Walmart level 😂 Pretty sure a Marin is well about a Walmart level bike but thanks!
It was stored in a barn BTW - it's just been used a lot of the last 30 years. Testiment to the build quality back then.
@@MonkeyShred Well it sure came out nice. Now you have endless hours invested in a $300 commuter bike.The Walmart dig was just a point of reference comparing the quality of entry level bike shop brands to department store brands .Now if you had put that effort into a Marin with a hand made American frame and adorned it with quality vintage components, you would end up with something collectable and even enjoyable to ride in the dirt. Bicycles are a lot like guitars. Dolling up a $300 Stratocaster serves no purpose. It might look pretty, but there is a reason Fender and Marin produce and sell ten different levels of product.Cheers.
Does 10 speed fit on a vbake specific hub ? Whats the rear hub ?
There isn't really a V Brake specific hub. From my experience a 10 speed cassette can slot on to a 7,8 and 9 speed freehub. Some of the older 7 speeds may not be compatible though.
hermoso hermoso....
i love this color, please take the video how to got the color,
It's linked at the end of the video.
Noice
Thanks!
Dont care for the pink but other than that cool bike
Что за интересный вынос?
Frame cromoly ??
Yep
Marin palisades trail 1993 please
I really like your videos, but in my opinion it would be even better if you said a little less please
Haha sorry, there are a lot of people who like the explanations.
@@MonkeyShred
I understand.Forgiveness if it offends you