IIRC the holy grail was a 1998 12 valve 5 speed 4x4 2500 quad cab with the short bed. Factory short bed being the odd ball and rare thing since the rest of the years and trucks all had long beds. Everyone has their own version of options they like and consider a holy grail truck though.
Great to see someone talk a little about the P7100. Would be nice to know what changes like delivery valve changes etc. great video though can’t wait to see next update
The 12v's are the best in my opinion. I have a 96 with compound turbos it tows great. The only problem is the 2nd gen truck they just ride rough. I was a f350 of f450 with a 6speed and the 12v
Look forward to seeing the finished product. I want a 6 speed manual but that just me . If you don't mind is it 4.1 or 3.54 gears . So look forward to seeing how it tows with a lower stall . One thing that I have wondered how the lower stall effects the brakes as sitting a stop light with the low stall trying to pull the truck forward . I could put up with that I guess for a better fluid coupling . And see some rpm drop at gear shifts . I guess that is a 913 pump p pump
I have a g56 in my toe pig, it’s nice but for hotroding around town that’s a lot of gears to tow through. I have the same low stall converter in my shawty, sure it try’s to creep a little at idle, but I haven’t been able to notice a difference between it and any of the other trucks I’ve test driven. The truck has 3.54’s.
@@CumminsWorks how stout are the g56's ? That's what I have and I've heard a lot of differing opinions on em .... wonder how much they can take - dont really wanna blow it up just yet
@@larrypeachy2391 honestly I’m in your shoes. Heard a bunch of things about them and not sure what to think. I’ve been running ~700hp in mine for 2 years now without issue, however when I built it I messed with some of the problem areas so maybe that’s helping, not sure.
I’d love to clarify the turbo set up. You’ll probably do that in a later video. It sounded like you said a 60/67 with an S 400 on the manifold, just sounded backwards…
@@om603denis I like 12vs because you feel connected to the pump, and they rattle takes me back to my childhood. I just hate how expensive they are to purchase.
Ive been reading on a lot of Cummins forums that the 215hp pump retards timing at full rack travel but according to your video it advances timing does a Mack rack plug advance timing more if so how much
@@CumminsWorks hmmm well I think they took the 80 off mine and some valve reliefs so I was expecting to be around 16.5:1 on mine. But then again I haven’t actually done all the calculations, i don’t even know how 😂
@@Jc_my_12valve when you deck the piston you make the bowl smaller. These started out with a 44.5cc bowl, but with a .075 cut off the top now have a 40.5cc bowl. Combine that with the extra displacement, it should be right around 19:1
What valve springs would you recommend for a 2008 Ram 3500 Dually 6.7 Cummins with stock bottom end and stock head with S366/S478 Compounds ? I want to do push rods and valve springs at same time. I was thinking D&J springs and push rods ? I don't want to over do it I just want something that will handle 900HP and won't smoke my pistons .
@@horsetorquesdiesel I am massively jealous of your new Engine and setup with the red paint on it ! Looks awesome.My valve springs and pushrods are on the way from Hamilton they had a deal for the whole package I couldn't pass up. Next is 12mm CP3 and Airdog Lift Pump. Then last 100% over injectors . Then I'm on to painting the whole truck and new rims and a new SRT Hood .
@@horsetorquesdiesel I'm doing the SRT Hood and front bumper cover with the SRT air dam too . Then painting everything the same color as my truck is except adding pearl and flake to make it look alot better . Then getting Black 22inch rims and tires .
Too much compression. Need to reduce compression in your cylinders to clean up that smoke. Hate to say it but with that 6.7 crank you may need a custom domed head or find a way thicker head gasket that works with your fire rings.
Great build. Id love to see a 6.1 build step by step with part numbers and specs.
The truck itself is a cummins holy Grail 1998 12 valve 5 speed 4 door 3500 4x4!!!!!!!
IIRC the holy grail was a 1998 12 valve 5 speed 4x4 2500 quad cab with the short bed. Factory short bed being the odd ball and rare thing since the rest of the years and trucks all had long beds. Everyone has their own version of options they like and consider a holy grail truck though.
I have a 98’ 12 valve 5 speed manual extended cab, short bed 4x4. Love it. It’s a holy grail to me.
@@zackpalmer2824 can I have it? XD
@@Sebzuki oof, even for a pretty penny I don’t think I could let it go haha
Some guy is selling a 98 12v quadcab short bed with an automatic and Full leather interior for 8500. Worth it?
Love the variety of the content. Even race guys need a tow pig to get to the races. Can't wait to see how much Papa Stump enjoys it.
Me either!
Tow rigs are awesome I love pulling and (accidentally) spinning a tire, lol
Awesome to see a towing build! Nice work guys.
Thank you!
Great to see someone talk a little about the P7100. Would be nice to know what changes like delivery valve changes etc. great video though can’t wait to see next update
You and Myer make a great team and great videos...Ive learned alot that I can do for my 06 2500 2wd.
1 day............
You can do it!
Awesome !
What a clean 12v nice work 👌🏻
Love my 12 v..especially after some PDD fuel and air parts were thrown in it..thanks for the content!
Awesome enjoy any cummins content but right now I have a 12valve so real excited for this content have been reaching out to Meyer for this content
Try to mix it up!
I like the color of the covers.
Gosh, that's a pretty setup! And love that smile at 5:55.
They both seemed very happy!
As always love the tech
You guys have got some great content!
Appreciate it thank you!
i LOVE this vid, i want to see more of this truck and learn more about it! its my dream engine build!
I’ll get more footage for sure!
@@horsetorquesdiesel sick! be doing my pdd order next week on my birthday. time to stud my 12 valve. keep being fuckin awesome guys!
Sounds nice that blue looks good not to much, just enough.
Y’all are studs keep it up.
Hahaha thank you! Send Myer a GF
@@horsetorquesdiesel hahaha if I knew someone as awesome as Myer I would but I don’t haha
Nice boost circuit you got there on the valvebody! Haha
You know it!
favorite youtuber
Thank you!
Because 12Valve is all mechanical that’s one good reason
The 12v's are the best in my opinion. I have a 96 with compound turbos it tows great. The only problem is the 2nd gen truck they just ride rough. I was a f350 of f450 with a 6speed and the 12v
Nice 👌
Definitely want to see that p7100 cam swap.
I’ll do my best
That thing would be a stoopid good time loaded or empty!!
Keep the Cummins going
Hell yeah that’s what I want for a Tow truck
Should be solid!
@@horsetorquesdiesel Man that’s like wiping before you poop you damn right it should be sold 🤣
Woohoo! 12V content!!!!
18* timing at idle? 24* at high idle?
It’s more to do with engine horse power, it’ll cruise at 18* but slowly advance to 24 at full throttle.
@@CumminsWorks That's what I was guessing. Too bad those pumps are hens teeth.
Look forward to seeing the finished product. I want a 6 speed manual but that just me . If you don't mind is it 4.1 or 3.54 gears . So look forward to seeing how it tows with a lower stall . One thing that I have wondered how the lower stall effects the brakes as sitting a stop light with the low stall trying to pull the truck forward . I could put up with that I guess for a better fluid coupling . And see some rpm drop at gear shifts . I guess that is a 913 pump p pump
I have a g56 in my toe pig, it’s nice but for hotroding around town that’s a lot of gears to tow through. I have the same low stall converter in my shawty, sure it try’s to creep a little at idle, but I haven’t been able to notice a difference between it and any of the other trucks I’ve test driven. The truck has 3.54’s.
@@CumminsWorks how stout are the g56's ? That's what I have and I've heard a lot of differing opinions on em .... wonder how much they can take - dont really wanna blow it up just yet
@@larrypeachy2391 honestly I’m in your shoes. Heard a bunch of things about them and not sure what to think. I’ve been running ~700hp in mine for 2 years now without issue, however when I built it I messed with some of the problem areas so maybe that’s helping, not sure.
Have you guys done a dyno run on the 60/67/9 alone ?
What do you have to do to run a 6.7 crank?
Please do a video on what it takes to put a 6.7 crank in a 12 valve
Nothing with factory rods. Some clearancing required with billet rods
Does Myer have a UA-cam channel also?
I love 12vs I really want to build mine to be a stroker as well and be able to hit 850hp and still be able to do any job
Very doable
Best size compounds for that goal maybe a bit more I'm in Michigan so elevation isn't a huge deal for me
I’d love to clarify the turbo set up. You’ll probably do that in a later video. It sounded like you said a 60/67 with an S 400 on the manifold, just sounded backwards…
I miss spoke. It’s a he351 60/67 on the manifold with a 472/87/1.10
Who’s 60/67? I’m planning on doing nearly this exact setup with my VP truck. I’m really excited to see how it turns out!
@@marcushert2759 Pdd’s modded he351
nice thing about a 12v is your foot is the tuner.
if you like going slow sure.
Just trying to find a positive thing about 12v. I actually prefer 6.7 with Vgt turbo. I love my vgt turbo it's amazing how fast it spools.
@@om603denis I like 12vs because you feel connected to the pump, and they rattle takes me back to my childhood. I just hate how expensive they are to purchase.
Josh do you recommend I O-ring my head? I’ll be running a 467.7 borg with 50% overs and a 12mm cpm. Truck is a 2004.5 ram 2500
Really just good studs on the factory gasket is sufficient!
@@horsetorquesdiesel thank you for the response!
Ive been reading on a lot of Cummins forums that the 215hp pump retards timing at full rack travel but according to your video it advances timing does a Mack rack plug advance timing more if so how much
Pretty sure a rack plug will just allow for so additional travel in the rack at WOT I don't think it alters the timing at all. Could be wrong
Did he use one of pdd Cnc ported heads? What exhaust housing on the 472 sxe?
Stock ported 12v head. 1.25 t4 on the 472
Thanks buddy
Curious how you got 19:1 with that setup. I figured it’s be sitting around 17:1
What was the piston protrusion?
We didn’t take the full 80 off the tops
Plus the pistons started at over 17:1
@@CumminsWorks hmmm well I think they took the 80 off mine and some valve reliefs so I was expecting to be around 16.5:1 on mine. But then again I haven’t actually done all the calculations, i don’t even know how 😂
@@Jc_my_12valve when you deck the piston you make the bowl smaller. These started out with a 44.5cc bowl, but with a .075 cut off the top now have a 40.5cc bowl. Combine that with the extra displacement, it should be right around 19:1
What valve springs would you recommend for a 2008 Ram 3500 Dually 6.7 Cummins with stock bottom end and stock head with S366/S478 Compounds ? I want to do push rods and valve springs at same time. I was thinking D&J springs and push rods ? I don't want to over do it I just want something that will handle 900HP and won't smoke my pistons .
Can’t go wrong with d and j springs and pushrods. Our PDD 4.5k and stage 2 pushrods would also work well! That’s what is in my 2007.
@@horsetorquesdiesel I am massively jealous of your new Engine and setup with the red paint on it ! Looks awesome.My valve springs and pushrods are on the way from Hamilton they had a deal for the whole package I couldn't pass up. Next is 12mm CP3 and Airdog Lift Pump. Then last 100% over injectors . Then I'm on to painting the whole truck and new rims and a new SRT Hood .
@@twintibbsdiesel93 I love the srt hoods
@@horsetorquesdiesel I'm doing the SRT Hood and front bumper cover with the SRT air dam too . Then painting everything the same color as my truck is except adding pearl and flake to make it look alot better . Then getting Black 22inch rims and tires .
@@horsetorquesdiesel The reason I like the color of your engine is it's close to the color my truck will be LOL with black 22 inch rims .
Whats going on with that 4bt head in the background in the first minute of the video?
Ported pdd heads
How hard is it to throw a 6.7 crank in? Modify your piston length and let her eat? I wonder how a 6.1L VP truck would be,
Not hard. You just machine the pistons down. A 6.7 crank vp44 would be a torque monster!
I’d like Myers contact information, please
What's the plans for the nv4500?
hopefully it goes in the dumpster since it is a colossal pile of trash.
@@horsetorquesdiesel 😂😂 wanna sell it?
@@levi5.9 I’ll ask myer
Wheres someone get one of those sweet sweatshirts?!
Carquest in Cedar City Utah!
That poor poor broken tail housing trans on the bench never thought I'd see that thing again! Haha I'm curious to what was all wrong with it.
Ill see if the guys can tear it down
Too much compression. Need to reduce compression in your cylinders to clean up that smoke. Hate to say it but with that 6.7 crank you may need a custom domed head or find a way thicker head gasket that works with your fire rings.
Just wait we did an injector change and it made a huge difference!
Excellent! Weird those 5x14 smoked that much. Wrong spray angle?
First
Eaton fuller 7 swap
First fire, revving like that... Smh
Camshaft break in... have you heard of it???