Good thing Simon’s proven himself is a pretty fair person who knows how to admit, blind spots in his viewpoints, and when things could be biased, my trust of this guy became solid when I watched his video on El Salvador from Warfronts
Dear Simon and Crew, i love your work! But would it be possible to have less AI depicions. Dont get me wrong I love AI but for the topic that you and your crew make real picture (in my opinion) makes it more professional/interesting. I'm not saying no AI depiction at all sometimes it is fitting. For example when there is no sources. Or it is a future prediction. Thanks for the great work!
have to say and will likely be ignored which is all good. i dont feel like the ai depicted art is adding anything good to the videos, especially when ai depicted art is mixed between real pictures. its just adding nothing but makes me dislike watching as it takes away my attention. will be sad to stopp watching simon but its really tedious to me how its being shoehorned in where its not needed at all. pleanty of good ways to use the art but just throwing out ai picture after ai picture is rubbish use
Israel didn't enjoy any support from the western bloc in its independence war, it was under an embargo by the west... The only country willing to sell it weapons was Czechoslovakia, and they were sold, not given.
At first, i was gonna pull out the bag of popcorn to read the comments.... but now that i think about it, i dont think the comments are going to be as bad as they were a month ago, prior to US elections. Interested parties dont need to fuel the fire and cause division by pouring millions of dollars into their respective supporting parties. But maybe im just optimistic...or pessimistic depending on your viewpoint.
I think most Americans just don't care much anymore. TBH gets old hearing about the chaos caused by islamists throughout the world. Seems every day Simon uploads a video of Al Shabab this, Boko Haram that, a caliphate attempt over here, an islamist separatist group there. TBH people subconsciously know who the aggressors are
Regarding the quick history going back the the Canaanites... You completely ignored the literal Tom's of archaeological evidence showing that Jewish people have also lived there for millennia and supporting the existence of an ancient nation state called Israel. The ruins of the temple of Solomon and corresponding inscriptions are just the start of it...
I don't understand this brand of "what aboutism." If it was wrong to chase the Jewish population out of Europe, who had lived in Europe for centuries/generations, then it's wrong to chase the Gazans from the land they inhabited for centuries. You can't honestly say one is justifiable and the other isn't, and archaeological finds don't actually give anybody the right to acts of genocide/cultural erasure with impunity. I strongly recommend looking more into the history of that part of the Middle East, or history in general in fact. It doesn't work like you seem to think it does. In the case of the Middle East, native populations are all semitic peoples who are related, sort of like Europe's modern Slavic populations are related, and the Nordic and Germanic populations are even more broadly related, common ancestors and all. The literal tons of archaeological evidence are not exclusive to one group; the notion of nation states based on ethnicity and/or religion did not exist in antiquity, that notion is strictly the product of the rise of nationalist movements in the 19th century, which similarly inspired Zionism. Nationalism ended all the collectivist empires in WWI and shaped the modern world, and that's the lens you're looking through; it's rather inaccurate, in reality. In antiquity, "empires" and "ancient states" were very diverse. The common language use is invariably a lingua franca, not strictly the ethnic language of the entire population, but rather whatever language the conquerer who forged an empire brought along. The Roman Empire is an easy to grasp example, spanning much of Europe's Latin speaking populations who are related, as well as parts of Germanic and Slavic Europe. Vienna owes its roots to a Roman settlement and has Roman ruins with Latin inscriptions, and the very name of the city originates from Latin; should we call the Italians to take the land and resettle it as their "rightful heritage?" Justify the erasure of centuries of German speaking cultural development? People are looking at archaeological findings with modern, proprietary, largely nationalist sensibilities when the notion is historically inapplicable. Using that to justify erasing a population and its culture is really appalling. By that same token, Native Americans/First Nations should take matters into their own hands and do the same to pretty much everybody else in the US and Canada, where the white population patently doesn't belong and have an even shorter history. Are we starting to see the absurdity? Relics and archaeological artifacts with inscriptions in Hebrew are found in abundance, alongside Aramaic. Lingua franca, not a direct indicator of the exact ethnicity. To that end, modern Gazans' ancestors too were part of the region's history, in reality; unlike the scenario of the US/Canada, they're not outsiders. They didn't land there from a different part of the world; contrary to popular belief, not all Arabs in the Arab world are "immigrants from Arabia," which is a common but erroneous assumption. Arabic is just the new lingua franca like Latin once was, as the product of conquest and assimilation into larger empires and hegemonies like the Umayyads and the Abbasids. Middle Eastern populations maintain their unique genetic markers to this day, and neither they nor their language are monoliths; they maintain their distinct native substrata. They're all part of the same history. Arabic itself is a Semitic language, and its adoption was rather easy by populations that largely spoke Aramaic, Hebrew, Syriac, and other languages, all of which are related, and all of which still have their distinct linguistic influence in contemporary vernacular. Acting as though Gazans landed from a whole other planet and have no claim to the land is a whole world of unfortunate ignorance and sheer absurdity. It's just unfortunate that they all hate each other and impose so much pain and suffering on each other. That's the scourge of nationalism and all brands of ethnic/religious fanaticism, of which both sides are quite guilty. And the rest of the world picks sides based on its own biases, too.
So if the person who owned my house when it was built in 1970 shows up and says "i was here first so it's mine", i should just move out, give them the house, and get over it?
I'm a fan of the show but honestly this episode is poorly done. Human habitation in the Levant does not go back 4000 years it goes back 200,000 years. Jericho is possibly the oldest city on earth going back 15,000 years.. the earliest civilization I am aware of were the natufians who went back even further than Jericho and where the probable founders. Getting two more modern times and this is where I'm truly disappointed because your report veers into propaganda because for a program as well researched as yours I believe you knew the truth. In 1977 when Israel and Egypt made peace Israel tried to return Gaza but Egypt refused. In fact it was a deal-breaker. In the 10 years that Israel held Sinai 10000 Israelis moved into the Sinai. Egypt wanted Sinai they didn't want Sinai. The Israeli settlers were removed in accordance with the treaty. Israel will trade land for peace but they will insist on peace. I do not understand how supporting terrorists became acceptable. Lies of omission are still lies
The historical claims you’ve made involve a mix of accurate statements, oversimplifications, and some interpretations that might not fully align with widely accepted historical and political accounts. Your ancient history references are mostly accurate, but some dates are slightly exaggerated. The modern political claims about the Israel-Egypt peace treaty and Gaza reflect key events but simplify the nuances of international relations and historical context. For a full understanding, it’s essential to consider a wide range of reputable historical and political sources. The more sources of information you have the more they'll deviate it's at that point of influx the truth lies.
Not to bad of a video, I'd also include: Former Israeli officials have openly acknowledged Israel's role in providing funding and assistance to Hamas as a means of undermining secular Palestinian factions such as the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). So rather than deal with the PLO that had become more peaceful Israel wanted to have an enemy to justify control and land grabs.
So when israel says they didnt start the current war, truth is they made sure it would happen and were in fact invested on its eventuality? To quote billy butcher ”bloody diabolical”.
You do realise back then hamas did not advertise itself as the extremist group. They advertised themselves as more moderate and less corrupt than PLO it is only after the election that they revealed their true colors to isreal and others.
“Among the many civilizations who controlled the area…” and then proceeds to list off kingdoms and governments that have controlled the area, however leaving out one very important group. Simon fails to mention the historically undisputed rule under the kingdoms of Judah and Israel during the Iron Age. He also fails to mention the Jewish presence in the region since the Bronze Age.
@pennymayphilip9646 not exactly true. There were always jews in the land of what is considered israel and the surrounding areas, even after the Roman exiled them. It's just that they were a very very tiny minority. Also, there are plenty of evidence regarding the kingdoms and civilization of jews during the late bronze age and during the iron age. There are also evidences to back this up. No other ethnic group had the issue of being a distinct group without a homeland. Simon perhaps didn't specify a Jewish presence in Gaza because it wasn't part of the Jewish kingdom originally, only became a part of the second Jewish kingdom, during the hellenistic era (2nd century BC to 1st century BC) through conquest and even that lasted only a few decades.
@@pennymayphilip9646 Twisting words for bad intentions. The topic was Simon not listing countries who had legitimetaly controlled the area back in the day. It's a list. Not claims, just a list.
@@yanivcassuto4198 Not disputing their existence. Just pointing out there were always other different tribes (what we now generically call Arabs) in the same lands.
I know Simon doesn't read the comments, but if somebody involved in producing these videos does, can you please talk to him about the low frequency pops in the audio? After listening and watching carefully, I think there are at least two sources of them: 1) plosives when Simon turns his head towards the microphone, and 2) vibrations picked up when Simon taps the table while speaking. You can hear a few of the former on the P-words starting around 9:57, and the latter can be seen and heard around 9:02.
Gaza is a fascinating place because so many people live there and yet there is nothing there worth the effort. There are no resources, no farmland, no industry, no infrastructure, and no trade importance. So much blood over so little...
arabs refuse to let anyone to migrate. it's important for arab politicians to create a boiling pot especially considering how palestine is mostly stable but stupid westerners can't tell the difference between big semi real palestine and microscopic artificial gaza
@@saagisharon8595bingo. There was a bunch of surveys in the eastern part of med sea. Turks and greeks started reviving old stuff between them. And cherry on top, dombas also has lots of gas, same dombas putin claims to be russian. The sad part is folks fall for it and argue emotionally as if this wasn't about resources and geopolitics.
@saagisharon8595 ...those deposits are tiny. They aren't worth fighting over, I'm not even sure they are worth developing. That is a lot of expensive investment, and Israel's territorial waters have larger untapped deposits.
This is the fkng funniest, most tone-deaf comment I've read so far. Beneath a video of unfathomable violence and strife, you're complaining about the cinematography. Hahahaha! I mean, what. the. fck.
Despite Gaza's having the highest unemployment rate in the world, the area's 97% literacy rate is higher than of nearby Egypt, while youth literacy is 88%.
I like how this video concentrated on more significant points, whilst not holding back uncomfortable facts. I'd like to see a video that tells the historyvof the area as far back as possibe. Its the birthplace of religion and civilization. I know it would be a lengthy video, but it would be enlightening to everybody not from the region.
Real imagines can cost money and also time finding them. If you are making a video for u tube u can't just Google an image and use it. So AI is the simple cost and time effective way.
You mean to tell me good ole Simon has the mid east conflict crisis which has been going on for mellinia summed up into a 30 min vid in light of this new data I say we elect whistler to office and just let him solve all our problems All Hail whistler
The Israelites are descended from the Canaanites (Hebrew comes from the Canaanite language, and our G-D is from their pantheon). They were pulled from the land by the Romans, who took slaves after a failed rebellion (which is how the diaspora populations, such as Sephardic, Italikim, and Askensnazi were created). The Romans combined Yisrael with Syria and riffed on the Philistines to erase the history of it and our connection to it. This does not invalidate the connections to the land that future people who settled there forged.
Palestinians are also descended from the canaanites. They are mostly not Arab implants but people that converted to Islam after the conquest. None of this is relevant to the fact that normal people lived in that land and have been for the last 76 years systematically cleansed from it. They are not at fault for what happened to the jews in Roman times, and yet they are expected to suffer the consequences of it.
I have some unfortunate news. God just told me that the right to the land is mine. Crazy, right?! We were just hanging out, watching hockey, and He was like, "I have a surprise for you!" I thought it would be a new Xbox controller to replace the one he broke. Imagine my surprise . . .
@@MikeP2055 Where exact did I mention religion? I wasn`t talking about it. Even the Hebrew language comes from the more ancient Canaanite. The Israelites have been there for all of history mate, end of story. There is no version of this where they don`t have the right to this land.
@@hi-fidude6670 Fair enough. For the sake of being on the same page moving forward, how, precisely, are we defining a right to the land? And with as much specificity as possible, how would such a right be implemented and what does it afford the current and future inhabitants? Incidentally, I'm quite familiar with the history of the Levant. My pops was an archeologist and I'm a big ole nerd. I wasn't disputing anything you two were talking about, I was just crackin' wise because . . . humour? Absurdity? I'm the live-in caregiver for my elderly mother and don't get out much? A coping mechanism for crippling anxiety? Take your pick. EDIT: Disregard the above queries if you haven't already read this reply. I've decided that my brain doesn't have enough give-a-damn (as my dad would say) in its reserve tanks to carry on a spirited but civil tête-à-tête about such an awful, bleak, and upsetting quagmire. Thanksgiving is in two days (here in the States) so I think I'll shift gears and ruminate on other topics while I cuddle with my dog. Or crush beers and practice drumming. Probably both. ✌️✌️
You have a mistake at 3:37. The nabateans weren't arabs as far as we know... Also, you forget to say that the jewish immigartion is due to a wish to return to the their ancient homeland, and that the jaffa riots and Hebron massacres were targeted at jews due to misleading rumors (1921) and some disagreements (1929)
Can you cite a source? I haven’t seen anything contradictory to what he said in the video, in fact it seems commonly agreed upon that Nabateans were an ancient Arab people from most results you can find.
Hugely disappointing. You left out the offer Netanyahu gave Arafat which gave them almost everything they wanted and more - excluding only handing over the entire city of Jerusalem as the "eternal capital of Palestine". Everyone told Arafat to take the deal - even Iran. Everyone said this was the best deal they would ever get, and they needed to take it. Not just that, but everyone warned that this was a one-shot deal. If they turned it down, the Netanyahu government would collapse, a hardliner would take his place, the Palestinian controlled areas would be isolated and violence would ensue. The violence would be brutal and last for decades. Israel would never trust any Palestinian government to negotiate in good faith after turning down the offer. Iran warned Arafat that the blood of generations of Palestinians would be on his hand if he said no. He said no. Netanyahu's coalition fell apart. Ariel Sharon took office, cracked down on border crossings, isolated the Palestinian territories, cut off economic aid, and brutally suppressed dissent in those areas. Everyone wanted to know why he said no. He never said. Everything from that point went downhill. The withdrawal from Gaza was to cut costs and reduce economic activity for Palestinians because they couldn't work for IDF personnel. The isolation got worse, and that led to Hamas taking over. So you basically skipped over the most important turning point in Israeli-Palestinian negotiations, the rise of Hamas in the West Bank, and what set the stage for current events. That's like covering the Ukraine war and leaving out the annexation of Crimea.
All these comments and it's just people complaining about AI 😂 Simon, somehow you've gotten people to not argue about Gaza, I hope you use your powers wisely!
How is claimant defined? If claimant is a person with refugee status, then of course it's conferred recursively onto all future descendants via the immediate family rule. But if claimant is a person who flees then it wouldn't.
You may be interested to learn that Palestinians are the ONLY people where generational refugee status is recognized. Anywhere else and the descendants would be considered Syrian or Jordanian or Lebanese, etc. citizens. But the "Palestinian" identity was specifically created by Arafat's PLO to be weaponized against Israel, so the descendants are also weaponized. That, and the countries that currently house them would prefer to send them back if at all possible because it turns out the "Palestinian" identity is easily weaponized against ANY regime where they currently live, not just Israel.
Oh but it was. The region was more lush and wet back in the day with nice mild seasons. With crossroads, constant trade made people lots of money. It was one of the prime spots. And there comes the problem, everyone wanted to settle there.
I’m really disappointed by the HUGE gap in facts in this video. If you don’t have the bandwidth to tell history correctly, then don’t do it at all. Cause the result is complete shit. Do better.
You're describing the early fights and massacres as if they were the fault of both sides (or even instigated by the Jews) - they were not. It were always the Arabs who attacked and Jews who defended themselves.
Only if you ignore all the Jewish terrorists committing attacks on civilians... There are no saints or innocent sides in this conflict, the Jewish people instigated plenty of bloodshed all their own.
I think they attacked because their homes were taken. Monday at home, Tuesday forced out to avoid being killed, Wednesday they want to go back but now someone else is living there.
@M-_-O no. Those massacres happened before they lost their homes (which they lost as a result of their aggression 20 years later). The massacres in Hebron, Safed and Jaffa for example, were carried out against Jews who had lived there for centuries. And the new towns the Zionists built were built on land they had legally bought, not land they had conquered or stole. The Palestinian leader at that time. Haj Amin El Husseini was talking about genocide. He later offered Hitler to build him an Arab force to exterminate the Jews of the middle east, and was good friends with Himler. That was prior to 1947-1948. Before the Arabs brought upon themselves defeat by trying to annihilate Israel.
The patchwork map isn't an issue per se, we see all kinds of weird borders in the world, even if it were perfectly divided without any enclaves it would still have been rejected by the majority of Arabs. Keep in mind they accepted Egyptian and Jordanian occupation but not the Israeli one, so yeah, it's religious in its core.
You are correct to some degree, but keep in mind that immediately after the 6 days war, the Israelis were seen as liberators (at least in the west bank). That is not to say that there wasn't a sentiment of hate\ resistance. The problems escalated when the settlements began taking shape and the Palestinians were also disenfranchised when it came to resources distribution (for example: water). The map proposed by the UN committee for the mandate was definitely problematic, but the committee did intend for the 2 nations to be economically-dependent on each other. Also, they were focused on ethnic division with that map. Israeli state where the majority of jews were, and a Palestinian state where majority of arabs were, with Jerusalem as an international hub governed by the UN
@@yanivcassuto4198 while im sure for some fraction (not saying small, just unsure of portion size) of the settlers within the newly ordained israel territory were welcoming, for most Palestinians they were simply pushed into an area that not all of them were living in. You're talking about thousands and thousands of forced migration. It isnt unique in that regard, as that happened to lots of colonies, but one look at the conflict between ethnic groups in africa just shows that forcing people to move instead of just assimilating with them and finding compromises that way WILL cause conflict down the line. Keep in mind also that the "majority" of Jews was more like the highest concentration of jews, not the relative presence of either group. Before the migration of many Jewish people to the newly established state as stated in the video, the ratio of Palestinians and other Arabs compared to Jewish people who were already living there was much more heavily lopsided. Just wanted to add this hear to prevent the convo from getting hostile. Not claiming that you are pushing some narrative, I just wanted to point out that it was definitely less of an honestly or well-thought-out plan than is commonly presented in western records on the topic. I view it as kind of a symptom of the colonial mindset that was highly prevalent at the time (as always, it's britain's fault)
@@DrinkTheKoolAid62 The Palestinian population has tripled since the 60s. That's the opposite of ethnic cleansing. As to the land if you win a war you get stuff, it's one of the oldest rules of humanity. Some land was continually occupied, even after the Roman expulsions, Islamic invasions, Mongols and Timurids and the Turks there were still jews in the region. Mainly Samaritan jews. Other bits of land were purchased beginning in the 1800s from Ottoman and Arab land owners. The majority of the land was not owned by anyone but was government land, ie the direct property of the Ottoman Empire/the British. When Britain left the rule was whatever you could grab and keep was yours
@DrinkTheKoolAid62 if you refer to the situation post-1967, yes, that's true. But also the Jordanian and Egyptian didn't bother giving the Palestinians equal rights, or tried to help them rebuild, so they one day might be able to have a country of their own.
Alright thank you Simon for pointing out at least.that Palestinians and Gaza have been a part of that region history for centuries. People seem to think they just popped out of nowhere in the late 40s which is wild cuz that's literally when the nation of Israel was created meant to be a shelter for Jews after the Holocaust
The Palestinians have been in the land only for a couple of centuries. While Jews lived there (continuously) for thousands of years. The nation of Israel was not created after the Holocaust, I hope you just worded it wrong, the nation of Israel is obviously also thousands of years old. The modern state(but far from being the first) of Israel was created to be a safe place for Jews in their own ancestral homeland.
@achilles7607 Palestinians as a people have been around for thousands of years. Does it really fucking matter who lived where first would anything condones leveling an entire territory in an effort to slaughter an entire race of people.
Umm Jews have lived in the lands for millennia. The *modern* state of Israel was re-established post-WW2. Most of their neighbor countries didn’t get borders or names until not that long before that. Abraham and his wife Sarah (and all the others) lived there before 1500 BCE. As did their offspring.. down to Jacob (who ended up with the name Israel). They were there as the land turned into territories as the Kingdoms of Israel for the sons, including the tribe of Judah (hero of the winter holiday Hanukkah). Jesus (a Jew, savior to Christians and prophet to muslims) was born in the land of Judah. Don’t forget we had the temples, the base of which is all that remains. Muslims decided to put a dome and a mosque up there and claim “third most important site!!” while to us it’s our FIRSTmost holiest site and we have can’t go there. Egypt doesn’t want the “palestinians”, their side of the blockade makes Israel’s look like a picket fence. In other words.. I have zero respect or sympathy for the palis until they accept a deal drawn up by Israel and their mediators. Considering there’s 0% chance of any of them re-entering Israel to work without major background checks, any actual innocents left are suffering in Gaza.
That's because the identity of "Palestinian" was created by Arafat specifically to be weaponized against the Jews. There were people there but they wouldn't have been calling themselves Palestinians.
UNWRA "supporting Palestinian militant action" is really a next level of sugar-coating, you can just say terror. Using terms like "Militant action" and "Palestinian" in that context only serves to muddy the waters.
I'm no fan of the terrorist Hamas but I do feel bad for the Palestinians who are restricted to living in entirely urbanized environment. As someone who grew up in an open rural country, I feel sorry for anyone who is restricted to live in an urban jungle.
@@SethWalker2543 Gaza *was* the singularly most densely urbanized zone on the planet, and very little of the rural area is anything but baking desert. What do you mean "plenty" of land? The Palestinians weren't even allowed to use all of their own territory, about a mile inland from the wall is restricted area where the IDF shoots anyone approaching.
@@nickorme8112that's singapoor, not gaza. No need to exaggerate to make a good case. Actually, the exaggerated claims have exactly the oposite effect on observers.
Whey ? video introduced neglected, ignored, and forgot. (Sea people) inhabited Gaza strip at late of Bronze age...Palestine.. After WW1 became a fertile & complicated dispute area were superpowers launching theirs political businesses against each other's until nowadays.
Britain pal. I know it was probably out of ignorance, but they aren't the same thing. Please don't erase Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland. Though smaller than their big brother, they deserve to not have their identity erased. The Scottish, in particular, have a long and proud history.
@@SamS-uv2ql they also, fun fact, dont matter. If you are familiar with British elections (dont worry if you arent, most of them dont matter) you will find that because the population of England is so much more massive than the other countries in the union that they have basically all of the political representation. In fact, all of British politics can pretty much be summed up as, "whatever London wants." Sure, it is technically more complicated than that, but the reality is that it is England calling all the shots.
Just going to ignore that before that there would have also been people? Or that before Europeans took America, that land was Native Americans? Or that most “Jews” alive today have no Hebrew blood, they are Eastern European. DNA tests are illegal in Israel for this very reason.
@@HandyMan657 Yeah, they did. Jews have been in the area for thousands of years, long before Islam was even a thought, but genealogy shows that Palestinians are descendants of people who were also there for a very long time. It would seem that both rightfully came from the area, and they have to figure out how they're going to share it.
@rabidkangar00 well, the majorit of modern day ppl who call themselves Palestinians are probably descendants of arabs who arrived in the area at least since the early Islamic conquest (7th century AD), but yes, if some reason will manage to penetrate our thick skulls, both sides would need to realize that both have the right to self-determination on the piece of land they claim, and that compromises must be achieved, but it looks increasingly doubtful it will ever happen now....:(
None of these people care about the land anymore, this is all about religion and some sick revenge thing. It's just all so ridiculous. And quite boring really, bloody stupid reasons to be fighting.
@@noahgray543not for the leadership. Gaza has a natural gas deposit. Gaza is also a key stratigic location (suez canal neighbour). The land claim was sold to the poor uninformed masses, to be used and abused by people with interest in keeping them that way, in a forever war state.
What a mess. Why, oh why, can’t people just try to compromise and get on with each other? Once again, religion has and is causing so many problems in the world….Is there life on Mars?
geopolitics. the toddlers way of “this is mine and anything i can use it for is mine” strategically, resource wise, historical significance, or financially… and just like toddlers with tantrums, world leaders don’t listen and come to compromise with the opposing side. and while being in power also ignoring the opinions of the people they’re supposed to be representing… gotta love modern civilized society not learning anything over the span of human existence “we disagree and don’t want to listen to one another’s concerns? this means war”
It was colonialism (nice place you got here, now it's ours). There were plenty of Jews, Christians and Arabs who were there before and there weren't wars.
@@cynamun467not exactly true. The jews and christians were the underdoga and the right to complaint didn't exist. For example, under mohamad ali pash, christian and jewish homes were looted (there was civil unrest) and when things got to court, the advocates for the muslims didn't deny this, they just stated that by sharia interpretation and tradition, the case couldn't be prossecuted since the perpetrators were muslim and the victims were not. This was rulled in favour of the defendors. And that's just one example.
It would be interesting, and informative, to know where the Palestinians' claim to the land in the Levant came from given there were no Arabs in the region until the 7th century muslim invasion. That which can be won by military conquest can be lost by military conquest.
Do you think Palestinians are entirely Arab? Do you think Arabs just came in and killed everyone that was there or something? What an ignorant comment…
Besides the fact that there is no right to land just because your ancestors lived there. If you act aggressively to your neighbors for decades, you lose whatever rights you thought you had. Living somewhere doesn't give you the right to endless violence
This is baffling... I thought Your channel is normally pretty balanced but this history is obviously supporting Gaza in the form that gazens has no responsibility to thier fate... And as a result of this logic Israel is to blame for all that is wrong as it's the responsible adult... Let's ignore the hagana and irgon "atrocities" that were just replys to attacks from the Palestinians. But when Israel pulled out of Gaza it was a looooong debate of several months and after it was decided it another several months until it was executed, the PA knew about it well before it happend. As for the election The Palestinen knew who they are voting for Hamas ( which was known by that name at the time ) was clear that they will not support a peaceful end to the negotiation at the time there was ongoing negotiations for peace with the PA. About the blocked it was not a full blocked it was just that Israel were monitoring was cancelled come in to Gaza to prevent (or more likely to indicate when ) creation of new weapons there was full (as much as 2 opssing force can ) trade with Gaza in fact there were still workers coming to Israel after they received clearance. The tragedy here is that even though Israel gave them Thier own country they still chose war instead of peace... 😢
The Jewish terrorist organizations needed no reason to instigate their attacks, when Hamas was elected it was primarily a charity organization to get public support not unlike drug cartels investing in their local area of operations to get locals on side, and Israel gave the Gazans an open air prison, not a country.
I wish one day and actual Palestinian could talk about the history instead of the people who created the problem. It’s nothing against you personally. It’s just- that’s how we got here first place.
You said a lot but at the end it's nothing. You are so quick and always avoid objectivity. We know that you're in a bunker where freedom of speech is when tell the world negative stories about Israel. Hope you live longer until judgement day, but my biggest wish is for those behind to not behead you.
Simon, when you’re discussing a topic of this much importance, I literally BEG you to check your pronunciation. I’d even offer my services for free as someone who can write out all of these names for middle eastern things in ipa so you can pronounce them correctly - I watch almost all of your videos and it is consistently bad whenever you discuss the Middle East.
Trans merely means "across" and refers to the land on both sides of the Jordan River. The current country of Jordan consists solely of land on the east side of the river, which is why the other side is called the West Bank. The current gender identity mind parasite doesn't have exclusive claim to the term.
I imagine Simon being trapped in a dungeon, narrating videos all day.
he kinda sounds like it in this episode doesn't he? xD... maybe his blazement dwellers rebeled after his rebellion video gave them a few ideas.
Yeah he's just stuck in there and someone keeps feeding him scripts
@@Durp-E-Derp great one
These comments are going to be civil
It’s gonna be full of trief and haram.
Right!
Good thing Simon’s proven himself is a pretty fair person who knows how to admit, blind spots in his viewpoints, and when things could be biased, my trust of this guy became solid when I watched his video on El Salvador from Warfronts
Your hope is my hope.
@@muthias4582 Half of Simon's script are biased as hell wdym?lmao.
Dear Simon and Crew, i love your work! But would it be possible to have less AI depicions. Dont get me wrong I love AI but for the topic that you and your crew make real picture (in my opinion) makes it more professional/interesting. I'm not saying no AI depiction at all sometimes it is fitting. For example when there is no sources. Or it is a future prediction. Thanks for the great work!
A video about nabateans would be cool , they are very interesting .
I should make a bunch of popcorn, comments are going to be entertaining
The side view camera angle is horrible.
Thank you. If someone is talking to me I don’t like looking into his ear.
have to say and will likely be ignored which is all good. i dont feel like the ai depicted art is adding anything good to the videos, especially when ai depicted art is mixed between real pictures. its just adding nothing but makes me dislike watching as it takes away my attention. will be sad to stopp watching simon but its really tedious to me how its being shoehorned in where its not needed at all. pleanty of good ways to use the art but just throwing out ai picture after ai picture is rubbish use
I mean you don't have to watch it, not really. I usually just listen to these videos.
Can you please not use AI depictions of real events? If you don't have actual photos, please don't make something up.
No
I agree here- no need for AI images.
God has this super great camera. For those that think he exists.
Which AI images, I can't tell the difference.
@ the ones that have the label “AI generated”
10:49 Bruh...is that a toddler with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth??????? Man....the past was wild lol
Life expectancy wasn't great back in the day, so they had to grow up real quick back then 😔
I'll pretend it's a lollipop
Reminds me of Dave Chappelle's bit about the baby selling Crack to support his family 😂
Back in the days when doctors told smoking is healthy!
If you need to use an AI Depiction, I'd rather just see your face or some text blocks than that... Sick of seeing AI art
Israel didn't enjoy any support from the western bloc in its independence war, it was under an embargo by the west... The only country willing to sell it weapons was Czechoslovakia, and they were sold, not given.
7:00 - just to clarify, who were the aggressors in all of these "instances"
FactBoi hitting that table like it owes him shekels
I'm glad nobody is going to come in here and spout craziness in the comments.
At first, i was gonna pull out the bag of popcorn to read the comments.... but now that i think about it, i dont think the comments are going to be as bad as they were a month ago, prior to US elections. Interested parties dont need to fuel the fire and cause division by pouring millions of dollars into their respective supporting parties. But maybe im just optimistic...or pessimistic depending on your viewpoint.
I think most Americans just don't care much anymore. TBH gets old hearing about the chaos caused by islamists throughout the world. Seems every day Simon uploads a video of Al Shabab this, Boko Haram that, a caliphate attempt over here, an islamist separatist group there. TBH people subconsciously know who the aggressors are
Regarding the quick history going back the the Canaanites... You completely ignored the literal Tom's of archaeological evidence showing that Jewish people have also lived there for millennia and supporting the existence of an ancient nation state called Israel. The ruins of the temple of Solomon and corresponding inscriptions are just the start of it...
Of course there where Hebrews during the christian era. As well the Hebrews became Muslim. Palestinians are not Arab
Oh Simon knows about it, but he's an antisemite so he doesn't care about the Jews claim to their indigenous homeland
Yeah...but the video isn't about that...
I don't understand this brand of "what aboutism."
If it was wrong to chase the Jewish population out of Europe, who had lived in Europe for centuries/generations, then it's wrong to chase the Gazans from the land they inhabited for centuries. You can't honestly say one is justifiable and the other isn't, and archaeological finds don't actually give anybody the right to acts of genocide/cultural erasure with impunity.
I strongly recommend looking more into the history of that part of the Middle East, or history in general in fact. It doesn't work like you seem to think it does.
In the case of the Middle East, native populations are all semitic peoples who are related, sort of like Europe's modern Slavic populations are related, and the Nordic and Germanic populations are even more broadly related, common ancestors and all. The literal tons of archaeological evidence are not exclusive to one group; the notion of nation states based on ethnicity and/or religion did not exist in antiquity, that notion is strictly the product of the rise of nationalist movements in the 19th century, which similarly inspired Zionism. Nationalism ended all the collectivist empires in WWI and shaped the modern world, and that's the lens you're looking through; it's rather inaccurate, in reality.
In antiquity, "empires" and "ancient states" were very diverse. The common language use is invariably a lingua franca, not strictly the ethnic language of the entire population, but rather whatever language the conquerer who forged an empire brought along. The Roman Empire is an easy to grasp example, spanning much of Europe's Latin speaking populations who are related, as well as parts of Germanic and Slavic Europe. Vienna owes its roots to a Roman settlement and has Roman ruins with Latin inscriptions, and the very name of the city originates from Latin; should we call the Italians to take the land and resettle it as their "rightful heritage?" Justify the erasure of centuries of German speaking cultural development? People are looking at archaeological findings with modern, proprietary, largely nationalist sensibilities when the notion is historically inapplicable. Using that to justify erasing a population and its culture is really appalling.
By that same token, Native Americans/First Nations should take matters into their own hands and do the same to pretty much everybody else in the US and Canada, where the white population patently doesn't belong and have an even shorter history. Are we starting to see the absurdity?
Relics and archaeological artifacts with inscriptions in Hebrew are found in abundance, alongside Aramaic. Lingua franca, not a direct indicator of the exact ethnicity.
To that end, modern Gazans' ancestors too were part of the region's history, in reality; unlike the scenario of the US/Canada, they're not outsiders. They didn't land there from a different part of the world; contrary to popular belief, not all Arabs in the Arab world are "immigrants from Arabia," which is a common but erroneous assumption. Arabic is just the new lingua franca like Latin once was, as the product of conquest and assimilation into larger empires and hegemonies like the Umayyads and the Abbasids. Middle Eastern populations maintain their unique genetic markers to this day, and neither they nor their language are monoliths; they maintain their distinct native substrata. They're all part of the same history. Arabic itself is a Semitic language, and its adoption was rather easy by populations that largely spoke Aramaic, Hebrew, Syriac, and other languages, all of which are related, and all of which still have their distinct linguistic influence in contemporary vernacular. Acting as though Gazans landed from a whole other planet and have no claim to the land is a whole world of unfortunate ignorance and sheer absurdity.
It's just unfortunate that they all hate each other and impose so much pain and suffering on each other. That's the scourge of nationalism and all brands of ethnic/religious fanaticism, of which both sides are quite guilty. And the rest of the world picks sides based on its own biases, too.
So if the person who owned my house when it was built in 1970 shows up and says "i was here first so it's mine", i should just move out, give them the house, and get over it?
I'm a fan of the show but honestly this episode is poorly done. Human habitation in the Levant does not go back 4000 years it goes back 200,000 years. Jericho is possibly the oldest city on earth going back 15,000 years.. the earliest civilization I am aware of were the natufians who went back even further than Jericho and where the probable founders.
Getting two more modern times and this is where I'm truly disappointed because your report veers into propaganda because for a program as well researched as yours I believe you knew the truth. In 1977 when Israel and Egypt made peace Israel tried to return Gaza but Egypt refused. In fact it was a deal-breaker. In the 10 years that Israel held Sinai 10000 Israelis moved into the Sinai. Egypt wanted Sinai they didn't want Sinai. The Israeli settlers were removed in accordance with the treaty. Israel will trade land for peace but they will insist on peace. I do not understand how supporting terrorists became acceptable. Lies of omission are still lies
The historical claims you’ve made involve a mix of accurate statements, oversimplifications, and some interpretations that might not fully align with widely accepted historical and political accounts. Your ancient history references are mostly accurate, but some dates are slightly exaggerated. The modern political claims about the Israel-Egypt peace treaty and Gaza reflect key events but simplify the nuances of international relations and historical context. For a full understanding, it’s essential to consider a wide range of reputable historical and political sources. The more sources of information you have the more they'll deviate it's at that point of influx the truth lies.
Isn't it Damascus the oldest?
Simon had more UA-cam channels than Christiano Ronaldo and Leonardo DiCaprio's Ex combined.
Not to bad of a video, I'd also include: Former Israeli officials have openly acknowledged Israel's role in providing funding and assistance to Hamas as a means of undermining secular Palestinian factions such as the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). So rather than deal with the PLO that had become more peaceful Israel wanted to have an enemy to justify control and land grabs.
So when israel says they didnt start the current war, truth is they made sure it would happen and were in fact invested on its eventuality? To quote billy butcher ”bloody diabolical”.
You do realise back then hamas did not advertise itself as the extremist group. They advertised themselves as more moderate and less corrupt than PLO it is only after the election that they revealed their true colors to isreal and others.
Evidence?
It wasn't to justify land grabs, it was to undermine fatah, and the reasons behind that u can find under the arab cold war.
@@K.S.A_privatthey can’t provide any
“Among the many civilizations who controlled the area…” and then proceeds to list off kingdoms and governments that have controlled the area, however leaving out one very important group. Simon fails to mention the historically undisputed rule under the kingdoms of Judah and Israel during the Iron Age. He also fails to mention the Jewish presence in the region since the Bronze Age.
Yeah, Simon is showing his antisemitism here by purposefully leaving out the historical owners of the land.
@@SethWalker2543 😂😂 I'd love to see the look on various world govt faces when a bunch of people showed up with a 3,500 year old land claim😂
@pennymayphilip9646 not exactly true. There were always jews in the land of what is considered israel and the surrounding areas, even after the Roman exiled them. It's just that they were a very very tiny minority. Also, there are plenty of evidence regarding the kingdoms and civilization of jews during the late bronze age and during the iron age. There are also evidences to back this up. No other ethnic group had the issue of being a distinct group without a homeland. Simon perhaps didn't specify a Jewish presence in Gaza because it wasn't part of the Jewish kingdom originally, only became a part of the second Jewish kingdom, during the hellenistic era (2nd century BC to 1st century BC) through conquest and even that lasted only a few decades.
@@pennymayphilip9646 Twisting words for bad intentions. The topic was Simon not listing countries who had legitimetaly controlled the area back in the day. It's a list. Not claims, just a list.
@@yanivcassuto4198 Not disputing their existence. Just pointing out there were always other different tribes (what we now generically call Arabs) in the same lands.
Love the Enron coffee mug
I know Simon doesn't read the comments, but if somebody involved in producing these videos does, can you please talk to him about the low frequency pops in the audio? After listening and watching carefully, I think there are at least two sources of them: 1) plosives when Simon turns his head towards the microphone, and 2) vibrations picked up when Simon taps the table while speaking. You can hear a few of the former on the P-words starting around 9:57, and the latter can be seen and heard around 9:02.
Gaza is a fascinating place because so many people live there and yet there is nothing there worth the effort. There are no resources, no farmland, no industry, no infrastructure, and no trade importance.
So much blood over so little...
Except for the offshore natural gas deposit discovered in 2000, the same year the al-aqsa uprising began
arabs refuse to let anyone to migrate. it's important for arab politicians to create a boiling pot
especially considering how palestine is mostly stable but stupid westerners can't tell the difference between big semi real palestine and microscopic artificial gaza
@@saagisharon8595bingo. There was a bunch of surveys in the eastern part of med sea. Turks and greeks started reviving old stuff between them. And cherry on top, dombas also has lots of gas, same dombas putin claims to be russian. The sad part is folks fall for it and argue emotionally as if this wasn't about resources and geopolitics.
@saagisharon8595 ...those deposits are tiny. They aren't worth fighting over, I'm not even sure they are worth developing. That is a lot of expensive investment, and Israel's territorial waters have larger untapped deposits.
@noahgray543 still it's better than an inherently curropt leadership gaining access to a resource of strategic importance
👎 AI art is not it guys. Photos, maps, and videos are useful, the AI art is not.
Yahsin didn't say Israel. He said Jews.
The bots gunna be wild in these comments
The random switching to side profile view is extremely distracting and annoying. Please stop.
This is the fkng funniest, most tone-deaf comment I've read so far. Beneath a video of unfathomable violence and strife, you're complaining about the cinematography. Hahahaha! I mean, what. the. fck.
Despite Gaza's having the highest unemployment rate in the world, the area's 97% literacy rate is higher than of nearby Egypt, while youth literacy is 88%.
yeah and soviet union had 146% literacy
it was counted by if you can write down your name not by reading a book
statistics are all lie
UNRAW and the Gazan education authorities have done a brilliant job of educating people.
@@domtweed7323 Lol :D
Where can u find this data?
Lemme guess.. stats from Hamas (their elected terrorists/government) ?
I like how this video concentrated on more significant points, whilst not holding back uncomfortable facts.
I'd like to see a video that tells the historyvof the area as far back as possibe. Its the birthplace of religion and civilization. I know it would be a lengthy video, but it would be enlightening to everybody not from the region.
I love Simon's enthusiasm, but someone needs to add a high pass filter to his audio because I can hear everytime his gestures hit the desk.
That's part of the charm. Deal with it.
You spelled invaded wrong.
I am here.
I am gay
@j.a.weishaupt1748 I am #johnnyx100
i wish yall would stop using AI, there are plenty of REAL images to use
It's the new normal. Deal with it.
@Hillbilly001 naw fuck that.
Real imagines can cost money and also time finding them. If you are making a video for u tube u can't just Google an image and use it. So AI is the simple cost and time effective way.
Are there really though? I doubt many Gazans in the past or present own cameras...
Ai is copyright free, which makes it cheap.
The comment section will the more unhinged then a Mad Max villain 😅🙈
You mean to tell me good ole Simon has the mid east conflict crisis which has been going on for mellinia summed up into a 30 min vid in light of this new data I say we elect whistler to office and just let him solve all our problems All Hail whistler
Based on all I've heard and seen from simmon he couldn't do anything worse then are leaders already have
Ok but kinda poor choice of salute
@@TBJ1118 lol
Please avoid AI imagery when depicting historical events.
Thank you for covering the history and the present day mess of this subject. Until a few weeks ago, I wasn’t aware that Gaza wasn’t a country. 🤷♀️
The Israelites are descended from the Canaanites (Hebrew comes from the Canaanite language, and our G-D is from their pantheon). They were pulled from the land by the Romans, who took slaves after a failed rebellion (which is how the diaspora populations, such as Sephardic, Italikim, and Askensnazi were created). The Romans combined Yisrael with Syria and riffed on the Philistines to erase the history of it and our connection to it. This does not invalidate the connections to the land that future people who settled there forged.
And if you're curious: I'm Askensnazi, and my family is from the Pale of Settlement in Russia.
Yall will never know peace. I could promise you this.
Well, with that version of history, you will never know peace. You're all ridiculous.
@@mr.x817 Is that a threat?
Palestinians are also descended from the canaanites. They are mostly not Arab implants but people that converted to Islam after the conquest.
None of this is relevant to the fact that normal people lived in that land and have been for the last 76 years systematically cleansed from it. They are not at fault for what happened to the jews in Roman times, and yet they are expected to suffer the consequences of it.
Pretty certain that the Canaanites are the ancestors of the Israelites. Which ends the discussion on who have the right to the land
But they are. Where did u get ur certainties.
I have some unfortunate news. God just told me that the right to the land is mine. Crazy, right?! We were just hanging out, watching hockey, and He was like, "I have a surprise for you!" I thought it would be a new Xbox controller to replace the one he broke. Imagine my surprise . . .
@@MikeP2055 Where exact did I mention religion? I wasn`t talking about it. Even the Hebrew language comes from the more ancient Canaanite. The Israelites have been there for all of history mate, end of story. There is no version of this where they don`t have the right to this land.
@@hi-fidude6670 Fair enough.
For the sake of being on the same page moving forward, how, precisely, are we defining a right to the land? And with as much specificity as possible, how would such a right be implemented and what does it afford the current and future inhabitants?
Incidentally, I'm quite familiar with the history of the Levant. My pops was an archeologist and I'm a big ole nerd. I wasn't disputing anything you two were talking about, I was just crackin' wise because . . . humour? Absurdity? I'm the live-in caregiver for my elderly mother and don't get out much? A coping mechanism for crippling anxiety? Take your pick.
EDIT: Disregard the above queries if you haven't already read this reply. I've decided that my brain doesn't have enough give-a-damn (as my dad would say) in its reserve tanks to carry on a spirited but civil tête-à-tête about such an awful, bleak, and upsetting quagmire.
Thanksgiving is in two days (here in the States) so I think I'll shift gears and ruminate on other topics while I cuddle with my dog.
Or crush beers and practice drumming.
Probably both.
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In under 30 minutes. I haven’t watched yet.
You have a mistake at 3:37. The nabateans weren't arabs as far as we know...
Also, you forget to say that the jewish immigartion is due to a wish to return to the their ancient homeland, and that the jaffa riots and Hebron massacres were targeted at jews due to misleading rumors (1921) and some disagreements (1929)
Can you cite a source? I haven’t seen anything contradictory to what he said in the video, in fact it seems commonly agreed upon that Nabateans were an ancient Arab people from most results you can find.
Hugely disappointing. You left out the offer Netanyahu gave Arafat which gave them almost everything they wanted and more - excluding only handing over the entire city of Jerusalem as the "eternal capital of Palestine". Everyone told Arafat to take the deal - even Iran. Everyone said this was the best deal they would ever get, and they needed to take it.
Not just that, but everyone warned that this was a one-shot deal. If they turned it down, the Netanyahu government would collapse, a hardliner would take his place, the Palestinian controlled areas would be isolated and violence would ensue. The violence would be brutal and last for decades. Israel would never trust any Palestinian government to negotiate in good faith after turning down the offer. Iran warned Arafat that the blood of generations of Palestinians would be on his hand if he said no.
He said no. Netanyahu's coalition fell apart. Ariel Sharon took office, cracked down on border crossings, isolated the Palestinian territories, cut off economic aid, and brutally suppressed dissent in those areas. Everyone wanted to know why he said no. He never said.
Everything from that point went downhill. The withdrawal from Gaza was to cut costs and reduce economic activity for Palestinians because they couldn't work for IDF personnel. The isolation got worse, and that led to Hamas taking over.
So you basically skipped over the most important turning point in Israeli-Palestinian negotiations, the rise of Hamas in the West Bank, and what set the stage for current events. That's like covering the Ukraine war and leaving out the annexation of Crimea.
I can totaly relate to Lando Calarisian in Empire 😢
All these comments and it's just people complaining about AI 😂 Simon, somehow you've gotten people to not argue about Gaza, I hope you use your powers wisely!
Okay, but why? All I see are images of desert. Why are they killing each other to live there?
How is claimant defined? If claimant is a person with refugee status, then of course it's conferred recursively onto all future descendants via the immediate family rule. But if claimant is a person who flees then it wouldn't.
You may be interested to learn that Palestinians are the ONLY people where generational refugee status is recognized. Anywhere else and the descendants would be considered Syrian or Jordanian or Lebanese, etc. citizens. But the "Palestinian" identity was specifically created by Arafat's PLO to be weaponized against Israel, so the descendants are also weaponized. That, and the countries that currently house them would prefer to send them back if at all possible because it turns out the "Palestinian" identity is easily weaponized against ANY regime where they currently live, not just Israel.
I’m sure the comments will be civil and have no arguments what so ever and people will be nothing short of polite.
The crossroads of Asia, Africa and Europe was not exactly prime settlement territory.
Oh but it was. The region was more lush and wet back in the day with nice mild seasons. With crossroads, constant trade made people lots of money. It was one of the prime spots. And there comes the problem, everyone wanted to settle there.
@@alaric_yup, and everyone wanted to take out the competition. Fast forward, cold war, modern geopolitical interests and voilá a power keg.
I'm against AI in Art and History.
Gaza is not complicated, its the same as any other militia/cartel controlled city in the middle east or central america.
I’m really disappointed by the HUGE gap in facts in this video. If you don’t have the bandwidth to tell history correctly, then don’t do it at all. Cause the result is complete shit.
Do better.
Good night.
how many channels does this guy have? at this point I am convinced he has cloned himself
You're describing the early fights and massacres as if they were the fault of both sides (or even instigated by the Jews) - they were not. It were always the Arabs who attacked and Jews who defended themselves.
Only if you ignore all the Jewish terrorists committing attacks on civilians...
There are no saints or innocent sides in this conflict, the Jewish people instigated plenty of bloodshed all their own.
I think they attacked because their homes were taken. Monday at home, Tuesday forced out to avoid being killed, Wednesday they want to go back but now someone else is living there.
@M-_-O no. Those massacres happened before they lost their homes (which they lost as a result of their aggression 20 years later). The massacres in Hebron, Safed and Jaffa for example, were carried out against Jews who had lived there for centuries. And the new towns the Zionists built were built on land they had legally bought, not land they had conquered or stole. The Palestinian leader at that time. Haj Amin El Husseini was talking about genocide. He later offered Hitler to build him an Arab force to exterminate the Jews of the middle east, and was good friends with Himler. That was prior to 1947-1948. Before the Arabs brought upon themselves defeat by trying to annihilate Israel.
The patchwork map isn't an issue per se, we see all kinds of weird borders in the world, even if it were perfectly divided without any enclaves it would still have been rejected by the majority of Arabs. Keep in mind they accepted Egyptian and Jordanian occupation but not the Israeli one, so yeah, it's religious in its core.
You are correct to some degree, but keep in mind that immediately after the 6 days war, the Israelis were seen as liberators (at least in the west bank). That is not to say that there wasn't a sentiment of hate\ resistance. The problems escalated when the settlements began taking shape and the Palestinians were also disenfranchised when it came to resources distribution (for example: water). The map proposed by the UN committee for the mandate was definitely problematic, but the committee did intend for the 2 nations to be economically-dependent on each other. Also, they were focused on ethnic division with that map. Israeli state where the majority of jews were, and a Palestinian state where majority of arabs were, with Jerusalem as an international hub governed by the UN
@@yanivcassuto4198 while im sure for some fraction (not saying small, just unsure of portion size) of the settlers within the newly ordained israel territory were welcoming, for most Palestinians they were simply pushed into an area that not all of them were living in. You're talking about thousands and thousands of forced migration. It isnt unique in that regard, as that happened to lots of colonies, but one look at the conflict between ethnic groups in africa just shows that forcing people to move instead of just assimilating with them and finding compromises that way WILL cause conflict down the line. Keep in mind also that the "majority" of Jews was more like the highest concentration of jews, not the relative presence of either group. Before the migration of many Jewish people to the newly established state as stated in the video, the ratio of Palestinians and other Arabs compared to Jewish people who were already living there was much more heavily lopsided.
Just wanted to add this hear to prevent the convo from getting hostile. Not claiming that you are pushing some narrative, I just wanted to point out that it was definitely less of an honestly or well-thought-out plan than is commonly presented in western records on the topic. I view it as kind of a symptom of the colonial mindset that was highly prevalent at the time (as always, it's britain's fault)
The Egyptian and Jordanian "occupations" didn't include ethnic cleansing and land theft
@@DrinkTheKoolAid62 The Palestinian population has tripled since the 60s. That's the opposite of ethnic cleansing. As to the land if you win a war you get stuff, it's one of the oldest rules of humanity. Some land was continually occupied, even after the Roman expulsions, Islamic invasions, Mongols and Timurids and the Turks there were still jews in the region. Mainly Samaritan jews. Other bits of land were purchased beginning in the 1800s from Ottoman and Arab land owners. The majority of the land was not owned by anyone but was government land, ie the direct property of the Ottoman Empire/the British. When Britain left the rule was whatever you could grab and keep was yours
@DrinkTheKoolAid62 if you refer to the situation post-1967, yes, that's true. But also the Jordanian and Egyptian didn't bother giving the Palestinians equal rights, or tried to help them rebuild, so they one day might be able to have a country of their own.
Alright thank you Simon for pointing out at least.that Palestinians and Gaza have been a part of that region history for centuries. People seem to think they just popped out of nowhere in the late 40s which is wild cuz that's literally when the nation of Israel was created meant to be a shelter for Jews after the Holocaust
The Palestinians have been in the land only for a couple of centuries. While Jews lived there
(continuously) for thousands of years.
The nation of Israel was not created after the Holocaust, I hope you just worded it wrong, the nation of Israel is obviously also thousands of years old. The modern state(but far from being the first) of Israel was created to be a safe place for Jews in their own ancestral homeland.
@achilles7607 Palestinians as a people have been around for thousands of years. Does it really fucking matter who lived where first would anything condones leveling an entire territory in an effort to slaughter an entire race of people.
Umm Jews have lived in the lands for millennia. The *modern* state of Israel was re-established post-WW2. Most of their neighbor countries didn’t get borders or names until not that long before that.
Abraham and his wife Sarah (and all the others) lived there before 1500 BCE. As did their offspring.. down to Jacob (who ended up with the name Israel).
They were there as the land turned into territories as the Kingdoms of Israel for the sons, including the tribe of Judah (hero of the winter holiday Hanukkah).
Jesus (a Jew, savior to Christians and prophet to muslims) was born in the land of Judah.
Don’t forget we had the temples, the base of which is all that remains. Muslims decided to put a dome and a mosque up there and claim “third most important site!!” while to us it’s our FIRSTmost holiest site and we have can’t go there.
Egypt doesn’t want the “palestinians”, their side of the blockade makes Israel’s look like a picket fence.
In other words.. I have zero respect or sympathy for the palis until they accept a deal drawn up by Israel and their mediators. Considering there’s 0% chance of any of them re-entering Israel to work without major background checks, any actual innocents left are suffering in Gaza.
That's because the identity of "Palestinian" was created by Arafat specifically to be weaponized against the Jews. There were people there but they wouldn't have been calling themselves Palestinians.
@@SharonHF only god can judge.....and he will.
So who do we blame guys?
Canada, of course.
Abraham, he's the reason why the Middle East has been a shitshow for thousands of years because he's the origin of three cancerous religions.
@@Vinceras 🤨🤣👊
European colonialism - both the countries who controlled it and the Zionists who took over.
The Brits
Lets focus on Gaza’s future: death cults are no longer allowed.
So much for the comments being civil.
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@@GreyOne13 the truth hurts sometimes
So, no Muslims, no Jews, no Christians etc?
@@AvB.83 Jews and Christians aren't death cults. They don't actively seek out martyrdom the way Muslims do.
Balanced! I’d like to see you guys dig into the Philistine myth a little more.
Is that an ENRON coffee mug? lol
I’m not crazy about AI. But the comments regarding it are stupid.
Not a fan of hamas and hezbollah and Iran and rusia
Ok hezbollah bot
@ripfluffyman9972 not a bot labare. Știe un bot sa ți răspundă așa ..
Da i cu translate🤣
you sound Jewish.
UNWRA "supporting Palestinian militant action" is really a next level of sugar-coating, you can just say terror. Using terms like "Militant action" and "Palestinian" in that context only serves to muddy the waters.
I'm no fan of the terrorist Hamas but I do feel bad for the Palestinians who are restricted to living in entirely urbanized environment. As someone who grew up in an open rural country, I feel sorry for anyone who is restricted to live in an urban jungle.
Gaza city only occupies a small part of the Gaza strip. There's plenty of rural undeveloped land there
@@SethWalker2543 Gaza *was* the singularly most densely urbanized zone on the planet, and very little of the rural area is anything but baking desert. What do you mean "plenty" of land? The Palestinians weren't even allowed to use all of their own territory, about a mile inland from the wall is restricted area where the IDF shoots anyone approaching.
@@nickorme8112that's singapoor, not gaza. No need to exaggerate to make a good case. Actually, the exaggerated claims have exactly the oposite effect on observers.
@@SethWalker2543 where?
@@theawesomeman9821 Gaza city is in the northern section of the strip
I hate that old computer looking font in these videos so much. It's not easy to read, and computers don't have much to do with this channel
This entire history of Gaza in 26 minutes? Ehhhhh…..
Whey ? video introduced neglected, ignored, and forgot. (Sea people) inhabited Gaza strip at late of Bronze age...Palestine.. After WW1 became a fertile & complicated dispute area were superpowers launching theirs political businesses against each other's until nowadays.
Would love this kind of video but about israel, from their perspective. Thank you.
Ahhh third world countries
That's why god's to blame ...
👳🏻♂️🤲🇸🇦🇲🇶🇲🇶🇲🇶🇲🇶🇲🇶🇲🇶Palestiina Gaz Stop
and as usual, the lack of peace is colonial England’s fault for drawing borders where they don’t belong. through culturally diverse settlements
Britain pal. I know it was probably out of ignorance, but they aren't the same thing. Please don't erase Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland. Though smaller than their big brother, they deserve to not have their identity erased.
The Scottish, in particular, have a long and proud history.
You mean Britain not England. Britain is the best country on earth. You're welcome 🇬🇧
Middle East is a bunch of fighting tribes of desert herders. UK is just a convenient scape goat for arabs to feel better about their infights
@@Rydonattelo ...apparently its schools arent that great though, because it isnt a single country and you should probably know that
@@SamS-uv2ql they also, fun fact, dont matter. If you are familiar with British elections (dont worry if you arent, most of them dont matter) you will find that because the population of England is so much more massive than the other countries in the union that they have basically all of the political representation.
In fact, all of British politics can pretty much be summed up as, "whatever London wants."
Sure, it is technically more complicated than that, but the reality is that it is England calling all the shots.
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TL:DR, FOFA
Gaza properly belongs to Israel.
Just going to ignore that Jews inhabited Gaza before the ancient Egyptians?
Just going to ignore that before that there would have also been people? Or that before Europeans took America, that land was Native Americans? Or that most “Jews” alive today have no Hebrew blood, they are Eastern European. DNA tests are illegal in Israel for this very reason.
But did they really? Come on already the myth stuff.
@ yes they did. No myth. Pick up a history book.
@@HandyMan657 Yeah, they did. Jews have been in the area for thousands of years, long before Islam was even a thought, but genealogy shows that Palestinians are descendants of people who were also there for a very long time. It would seem that both rightfully came from the area, and they have to figure out how they're going to share it.
@rabidkangar00 well, the majorit of modern day ppl who call themselves Palestinians are probably descendants of arabs who arrived in the area at least since the early Islamic conquest (7th century AD), but yes, if some reason will manage to penetrate our thick skulls, both sides would need to realize that both have the right to self-determination on the piece of land they claim, and that compromises must be achieved, but it looks increasingly doubtful it will ever happen now....:(
None of these people care about the land anymore, this is all about religion and some sick revenge thing. It's just all so ridiculous. And quite boring really, bloody stupid reasons to be fighting.
Have you seen the land? I would find it hard to care about too!
@@noahgray543not for the leadership. Gaza has a natural gas deposit. Gaza is also a key stratigic location (suez canal neighbour). The land claim was sold to the poor uninformed masses, to be used and abused by people with interest in keeping them that way, in a forever war state.
Hamas picked a fight, got its rear handed to it, and now it acts like its the victim.
What a mess. Why, oh why, can’t people just try to compromise and get on with each other? Once again, religion has and is causing so many problems in the world….Is there life on Mars?
when hitler says remove all juice and juice say we'd rather not
chamberlain says let's compromise and remove only half the juice
geopolitics. the toddlers way of “this is mine and anything i can use it for is mine” strategically, resource wise, historical significance, or financially… and just like toddlers with tantrums, world leaders don’t listen and come to compromise with the opposing side. and while being in power also ignoring the opinions of the people they’re supposed to be representing… gotta love modern civilized society not learning anything over the span of human existence “we disagree and don’t want to listen to one another’s concerns? this means war”
It was colonialism (nice place you got here, now it's ours). There were plenty of Jews, Christians and Arabs who were there before and there weren't wars.
@@tsartomatour logic doesn't apply. Compromise doesn't mean half. What u did there is dishonest.
@@cynamun467not exactly true. The jews and christians were the underdoga and the right to complaint didn't exist. For example, under mohamad ali pash, christian and jewish homes were looted (there was civil unrest) and when things got to court, the advocates for the muslims didn't deny this, they just stated that by sharia interpretation and tradition, the case couldn't be prossecuted since the perpetrators were muslim and the victims were not. This was rulled in favour of the defendors. And that's just one example.
The only people making it complicated are the Palestinian leaders.
It would be interesting, and informative, to know where the Palestinians' claim to the land in the Levant came from given there were no Arabs in the region until the 7th century muslim invasion.
That which can be won by military conquest can be lost by military conquest.
Do you think Palestinians are entirely Arab? Do you think Arabs just came in and killed everyone that was there or something? What an ignorant comment…
That’s factually not true
Besides the fact that there is no right to land just because your ancestors lived there. If you act aggressively to your neighbors for decades, you lose whatever rights you thought you had. Living somewhere doesn't give you the right to endless violence
@@edwardbateman3094 factually did. not everyone just the majority
@@pauld.b7129 so you mean all arabs should be deported back?
probably the worst video on this subject i have even seen save for anything made by al jazeera
It’s all Israel 🇮🇱
This is baffling... I thought Your channel is normally pretty balanced but this history is obviously supporting Gaza in the form that gazens has no responsibility to thier fate... And as a result of this logic Israel is to blame for all that is wrong as it's the responsible adult...
Let's ignore the hagana and irgon "atrocities" that were just replys to attacks from the Palestinians.
But when Israel pulled out of Gaza it was a looooong debate of several months and after it was decided it another several months until it was executed, the PA knew about it well before it happend.
As for the election The Palestinen knew who they are voting for Hamas ( which was known by that name at the time ) was clear that they will not support a peaceful end to the negotiation at the time there was ongoing negotiations for peace with the PA.
About the blocked it was not a full blocked it was just that Israel were monitoring was cancelled come in to Gaza to prevent (or more likely to indicate when ) creation of new weapons there was full (as much as 2 opssing force can ) trade with Gaza in fact there were still workers coming to Israel after they received clearance.
The tragedy here is that even though Israel gave them Thier own country they still chose war instead of peace... 😢
The Jewish terrorist organizations needed no reason to instigate their attacks, when Hamas was elected it was primarily a charity organization to get public support not unlike drug cartels investing in their local area of operations to get locals on side, and Israel gave the Gazans an open air prison, not a country.
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This reminds me of the good old day, when the Roman Empire still kicking :v
I wish one day and actual Palestinian could talk about the history instead of the people who created the problem. It’s nothing against you personally. It’s just- that’s how we got here first place.
You said a lot but at the end it's nothing. You are so quick and always avoid objectivity. We know that you're in a bunker where freedom of speech is when tell the world negative stories about Israel.
Hope you live longer until judgement day, but my biggest wish is for those behind to not behead you.
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Whats a Palestine?
What’s a Jew?
a semi-autonomic semi-country on the east bank of jordan
east means the other side from gaza cesspit
Palestine is the name the Romans gave to Judea after the Jews resisted the roman conquest of the area
Guys this is about us. It's about our localy gods. So please start helping each other.
Anti-semitism is so based.
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Type of guy to piss in the wind and let everyone know why he's wet 😂😂😂😂😂
Wow all because they both believe in different sky daddies how embarrassing 😂😂
The same one. Abrahamic religions are all the same origin.
I'm pretty sure Jews & Muslims aren't the same religions 😆😂
There should be no sympathy for anyone who supports Hamas. Gazans chose Hamas over UN/Israel support, now they can live with their choices.
They don’t have free elections on a regular basis. When was the last time “Gazans” “chose” anything?
Simon, when you’re discussing a topic of this much importance, I literally BEG you to check your pronunciation. I’d even offer my services for free as someone who can write out all of these names for middle eastern things in ipa so you can pronounce them correctly - I watch almost all of your videos and it is consistently bad whenever you discuss the Middle East.
he doesn't care
for the entire world
yea ignore the lesson, lets focus on pronunciation.
they say hell doesn't exist, they've never been to gaza. or the middle east in general really. if they're not at war, they're not happy.
Israel is happy when not at war, but I suppose they are an exception
@@FishWithAquaphobia Look at the one thing they don't have in common with the rest of the middle east to find why they're the exception.
First of all blame god. After that the jweeus
Why not Muhammad?
@michaelhowell2326 who send the people in that region?...
According to my holly Bible ...
He plagiarized the scriptures@@arabul87
The mudslimes conquored the area and colonized it in the 7th century. They are not indigenous to the area like the Jews are
The things that they did in novembre was Shameless to you.
Trans Jordan? I didn’t need to know that.
Trans merely means "across" and refers to the land on both sides of the Jordan River. The current country of Jordan consists solely of land on the east side of the river, which is why the other side is called the West Bank.
The current gender identity mind parasite doesn't have exclusive claim to the term.