World's leading legal EXPERT on GENOCIDE gives his opinion on ISRAEL'S WAR in GAZA.

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    William A. Schabas is a Professor of International Law at Middlesex University, London. He is also a Professor Emeritus at Leiden University and the University of Galway, and an invited visiting scholar at the Paris School of International Affairs, Sciences Po.
    Recognized as a leading expert on international human rights law, international criminal law, genocide and capital punishment, he is the author of more than 20 books and 400 journal articles on these issues. He is also Editor Emeritus of Criminal Law Forum, the quarterly journal of the International Society for the Reform of Criminal Law.
    Professor Schabas was a member of the Sierra Leone Truth and Reconciliation Commission. He also worked as a consultant on capital punishment for the UN Office of Drugs and Crime and drafted the 2010, 2015 and 202 reports of the UN Secretary-General on the status of the death penalty.
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  • @FrankBarat77
    @FrankBarat77  9 місяців тому +87

    If you enjoyed the video, do like it and share, thanks! Feel free to subscribe to the channel as well!

    • @c.kainoabugado7935
      @c.kainoabugado7935 9 місяців тому +1

      ✅️

    • @maoritrustee-io3hw
      @maoritrustee-io3hw 9 місяців тому +1

      Nice move is this man working working with Navi Pillay, I knew he would start with Bosnia, currently there are only a few cases out there in regards to genocide.
      As someone who was in that conflict 91 to 93 , genocide law is limited and tricky.
      As I have said to many orgs UN and courts the same thing

    • @Iris-lh7rf
      @Iris-lh7rf 9 місяців тому

      In the name of Allah, we invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. These words make you a servant of Allah ....... ..........

    • @farydeneme4716
      @farydeneme4716 9 місяців тому +4

      Por favor, solicito comedidamente subtitulado en español. Muchas gracias desde Bogotá, Colombia!🥰

    • @FrankBarat77
      @FrankBarat77  9 місяців тому +2

      esta manana.
      @@farydeneme4716

  • @MagdiNonDuality
    @MagdiNonDuality 9 місяців тому +264

    Genocide is taking place and the US who is the only party which can bring a stop to the genocide is complicit due to its inaction.

    • @Iris-lh7rf
      @Iris-lh7rf 9 місяців тому +7

      In the name of Allah, we invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. These words make you a servant of Allah ....... ..........

    • @mrashad219
      @mrashad219 9 місяців тому

      Oh the US is taking action,its giving them the weapons.

    • @Danielle-zq7kb
      @Danielle-zq7kb 9 місяців тому +49

      It isn’t just inaction, it is active participation with US taxpayer money. I am livid!

    • @mariaangelicabrunellsolar7086
      @mariaangelicabrunellsolar7086 9 місяців тому

      Not just inaction, but US weapons are being used against the civilians in Gaza!

    • @GuitarJimBourke
      @GuitarJimBourke 9 місяців тому

      Why must you bring up the names of God? It is written, that God has many names-The Great Spirit? Let's demonize them too? @@Iris-lh7rf

  • @mattgloyn3928
    @mattgloyn3928 9 місяців тому +111

    This is the easiest case for genocide ever to be brought before a court ,most israeli officials have said it many ,many time on camera .

    • @rosymylene1878
      @rosymylene1878 9 місяців тому +11

      It is a strong case and the easiest case to take before a court. Lawyers sometimes fudge the issue but a skilled, honest advocate can make the case. And win.

    • @valtracey6180
      @valtracey6180 9 місяців тому +8

      The purpose of the genocide convention is PREVENTION - allowing UN members to take action when there is a clear possibility that any aggressive action by a State may lead to genocide. Whether a case can be proven or not is irrelevant, the crucial point here is to prevent it in the first place or to stop it if it has already begun. That is what the members of the UN have responsibility for.

    • @rosymylene1878
      @rosymylene1878 9 місяців тому

      Exactly right.⭐ @@valtracey6180

    • @collins48lc
      @collins48lc 9 місяців тому +1

      Wrong

    • @faikerdogan2802
      @faikerdogan2802 9 місяців тому

      Delusional. If it was genocide there would be no Palestinians right now.

  • @lowkey_me6038
    @lowkey_me6038 9 місяців тому +55

    Thank you both for this discussion.Thank you for understanding the pain of Palestine people .God bless you.war crimes 💯

  • @UmiYogi0205
    @UmiYogi0205 9 місяців тому +22

    Thank you for your courage to stand up for humanity ❤

  • @0xkillswitch
    @0xkillswitch 9 місяців тому +15

    Well it meets the criteria of genocide, but I don't know if it's genocide. That's what listening to him talk about that is like for me.

  • @Grumbholdt420
    @Grumbholdt420 9 місяців тому +11

    Are there any implications for the US after Bidon describing the bombings as 'indiscriminate' given that indiscriminate bombings are a war crime?

  • @jimwright1148
    @jimwright1148 9 місяців тому +8

    I watched a video on Novara media,it showed idf thugs setting fire to a truck full of water and food for people who need it badly! Despicable war crimes,should be getting sanctioned not applauded!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇵🇸

  • @0xkillswitch
    @0xkillswitch 9 місяців тому +188

    I get pissed when people talk about this like it's some complicated thing. It's looking at Israel's actions, and looking at the definition, and whenever an action corresponds to a criteria of the definition, you check that criteria. If a sufficient number of elements of the definition of genocide are met, then you call it genocide, because it is genocide by definition!!

    • @albertoauditore02
      @albertoauditore02 9 місяців тому +13

      Exactly

    • @TariqRahman-dt3hn
      @TariqRahman-dt3hn 9 місяців тому +10

      It sure is the g word.

    • @TariqRahman-dt3hn
      @TariqRahman-dt3hn 9 місяців тому +10

      Thanks for your expertise and for speaking up. The world needs honesty and justice.

    • @akskier44
      @akskier44 9 місяців тому +5

      There are lots of definitions. There is only one correct one.

    • @0xkillswitch
      @0xkillswitch 9 місяців тому +18

      @@TariqRahman-dt3hn The funny thing is I'm not an expert. I literally just looked up the UN convention on the prevention and punishment of the crime of genocide. And it is not a complicated thing. The complicated part of proving genocide in court--I hear--is proving intent. Luckily for us, Israel has done that for us with all of its genocidal rhetoric.

  • @michaelharper-et7kz
    @michaelharper-et7kz 9 місяців тому +20

    You don't have to be an expert to see that's what exactly is happening

    • @collins48lc
      @collins48lc 9 місяців тому

      You have to be an idiot to fall for Hamas propaganda

  • @brendasmart553
    @brendasmart553 9 місяців тому +5

    Excellent discussion and meeting of both of you men here, first time viewer of your channel. Boy do I look forward to the February ICC case against Israel with anticipation!!! Thanks, subbed.

  • @polonaflorijancic
    @polonaflorijancic 9 місяців тому +11

    As much as I agree with your analyses in terms of Srebrenica and Ukraine, this time around I find it extremely hard not to characterize it as genocide. Not just in the colloquial use of the term.

  • @goshane23
    @goshane23 9 місяців тому +30

    excellent interview.

    • @Iris-lh7rf
      @Iris-lh7rf 9 місяців тому

      In the name of Allah, we invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. These words make you a servant of Allah ....... ..........

    • @carolyn6780
      @carolyn6780 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Iris-lh7rf be forreal tho.... how much does Israel pay you to troll? 😂

  • @southpaw786
    @southpaw786 9 місяців тому +13

    Thank you Mr Barat. Your voice of humanity is very important.

  • @behroozcompani2348
    @behroozcompani2348 9 місяців тому +6

    Thank you for taking concrete steps. Your efforts, weather victorious or not are essential. ❤

  • @karihanna82
    @karihanna82 9 місяців тому +19

    The world has failed Palestinians ppl. All focus now on Gaza, but there is ongoing crimes in west bank against civilians including children.

  • @deguldenmiddenweg895
    @deguldenmiddenweg895 9 місяців тому +5

    Nethanyahu made a clear reference to the Palestinians as Amalech.

  • @tayrowell
    @tayrowell 9 місяців тому +19

    Thanks for this discussion!

    • @Iris-lh7rf
      @Iris-lh7rf 9 місяців тому +1

      In the name of Allah, we invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. These words make you a servant of Allah ....... ..........

    • @tayrowell
      @tayrowell 9 місяців тому +4

      @@Iris-lh7rf While I do support the Palestinians, I am non-religious. All the best though! I wish you peace!

    • @JacintaPalerm
      @JacintaPalerm 9 місяців тому

      ​@@tayrowellnothing to do with religion.

    • @tayrowell
      @tayrowell 9 місяців тому +2

      @@JacintaPalerm I was just responding to someone trying to make it that way, is all.

    • @carolyn6780
      @carolyn6780 9 місяців тому

      I sincerely believe that account is not an everyday citizen and practicing Muslim. Although, they seem to really want us to think otherwise. The accounts comment history that is visible when you click their pic is just the same phrase repeated in replies to random comments, nothing else. This "person" only recites religious musings while providing no context? What does that communicate to other commentors? This person has a brain that is singularly focused on their religion with no other thoughts or opinions... even on the topic of genocide. My hunch is that this youtube channel's practice of consistent, good faith conversations and engagement with reality (as opposed to mainstream medias prevailing practice of gaslighting citizens with half truths or flat out false narratives) has likely aroused suspicion from those who would prefer the world continue believing that the core issue stems from Muslims irrational hatred of Jewish people. I know thats a lot to assume from very little to go on, but my gut feeling is hardly ever wrong. Even when my hunches are proven accurate, I still cant articulate what led me to my conclusions. I think its some kind of subconscious pattern recognition perhaps? I dunno, I could be wrong, just throwing it out there anyway.

  • @roboldx9171
    @roboldx9171 9 місяців тому +5

    Joseph Goebbels "Oh, look, they are just like us ..."

  • @AElbadri
    @AElbadri 9 місяців тому

    Great interview. Eloquent and well informed expert on the legal aspects of genocides and ICJ.

  • @AceAlmost-m5f
    @AceAlmost-m5f 9 місяців тому +2

    Also investigate Oct 7. Most killings involved IDF soldiers indiscriminate bombing. Eye witnesses should be questioned

  • @Peacejusticenow
    @Peacejusticenow 9 місяців тому +15

    Palestine will be free

    • @Iris-lh7rf
      @Iris-lh7rf 9 місяців тому

      In the name of Allah, we invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. These words make you a servant of Allah ....... ..........

  • @sandrajensen497
    @sandrajensen497 9 місяців тому +2

    Excellent interview

  • @tidakada7357
    @tidakada7357 9 місяців тому +2

    Once Israel told gazans to flee back north into the demolished area they had told them to flee from, it was all over.

  • @Taxi_drivers
    @Taxi_drivers 9 місяців тому

    PERFECT... the description correspond at the declaration of minister, and ambassador in England..!

  • @abdulkarimssali8187
    @abdulkarimssali8187 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for highlighting,
    There plan is to take the land of Palestinian and put more settlers

  • @tahiralodhi619
    @tahiralodhi619 9 місяців тому

    Excellent interview.

  • @ahmedzaki9434
    @ahmedzaki9434 9 місяців тому +2

    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it just may be a duck

  • @Truthandjusticeforever
    @Truthandjusticeforever 9 місяців тому

    Spot on!

  • @namoshofficial
    @namoshofficial 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you!!!!!!

  • @brianbozo2447
    @brianbozo2447 9 місяців тому +1

    Happening only 1-2 hours from Europe. if Europe is ever destroyed in a war it can hardly define itself in positive manner and may find itself in a situation currently being experienced by the Palestinians.

  • @AMA-aMAaalrazk
    @AMA-aMAaalrazk 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you

    • @Iris-lh7rf
      @Iris-lh7rf 9 місяців тому

      In the name of Allah, we invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. These words make you a servant of Allah ....... ..........

  • @brendasmart553
    @brendasmart553 9 місяців тому +1

    I liked Williams background of books in his office much betteer than your later blurring out his background. Not sure why you decided to do that?

  • @masambeni
    @masambeni 9 місяців тому +2

    International law is not about law but about national interests. Since there are many more Arab and Muslim countries than the one Jewish state, Muslim and Arab interests dominate in international legal fora

    • @Tyiion
      @Tyiion 9 місяців тому

      That is not at all how legal influence in the international court works. Look at the last vote about Israel and Hamas and who voted how.

    • @masambeni
      @masambeni 9 місяців тому

      @@Tyiion which international court in particular are you referring to?

    • @Tyiion
      @Tyiion 9 місяців тому

      @@masambeni I am referring to the ICC. It is considered a puppet court and Israel lobbied to get its current prosecutor selected. And he has dragged his feet when it comes to anything related to Israel. But you can look at the US’s lone veto against a ceasefire to give you an indication of how the UN actually works.

  • @deguldenmiddenweg895
    @deguldenmiddenweg895 9 місяців тому +2

    How about "intent"?

  • @ruweidashakhshir2143
    @ruweidashakhshir2143 9 місяців тому

    Can you share a link to the opinion he wrote?

  • @DonaldKEOGH
    @DonaldKEOGH 9 місяців тому

    Someone should pass this info on to the BBC before it shuts down Olly Alexander

  • @valar7568
    @valar7568 9 місяців тому +1

    So Hamas should not have used their people as human shields. What’s the question?

  • @myrtillesm3532
    @myrtillesm3532 9 місяців тому

    Money talk. Money corrupt absolutely

  • @aritropat
    @aritropat 9 місяців тому

    Frank Barat looks like Dale Steyn, the South African cricketer.

  • @Jezza_One
    @Jezza_One 9 місяців тому

    Its the only genocide where genocide isnt actually taking place..

  • @Jen-c6u
    @Jen-c6u 9 місяців тому

    The court case is very interesting. Sounds sound.

  • @mrs.sherry
    @mrs.sherry 9 місяців тому

    Still got plenty of Palestinians in the rest of the world. Not the end of a race.

  • @jasont822
    @jasont822 9 місяців тому

    If it's suggested that Israel is deliberately indiscriminately bombing with ill intent to ethnic cleanse, understanding this transpiring in a small confined densely populated area, would it also be fair to suggest that they achieving poor results in their objective due to the volume deployed by their military to casualty numbers?

  • @commonwunder
    @commonwunder 9 місяців тому +2

    For those brought up in the democratic West,
    there are some questions that cannot be answered.
    Imagine during WWII, if 'allied' citizens on the street were asked,
    if firebombing Dresden was really necessary.
    Or if the US had to drop not one, but two nuclear bombs,
    on civilian population centres in Japan?
    When these decisions were made,
    they could not let Germany or Japan time to reorganise.
    To start up another campaign, for the war and terror to continue indefinitely.
    What would the democratic allied people of the time say to this.
    If they were shown footage, media reports and the victims themselves?
    Would they've sided with the axis powers?
    Should your Western forefathers have acquiesced in WWII, rolled over.
    Not let their values and way of life survive?
    There will always be decisions made by free democratic nation states,
    where there is no other alternative.
    But to take a course of action that cannot be morally justified.
    Apart from their ultimate need… to survive.
    The issue is with democracy itself.
    For many people, democracy is about being proportional and justified.
    Democracy is entrenched in Christian morality. You are supposed to be the 'good guys'.
    Unfortunately, sometimes the good guys have to battle hardened anti-democratic forces.
    You're their mortal enemy, they will not rest until you're beaten.
    The only question for you, is your survival.
    The problem with those now living in the West.
    They have never fought to keep democratic values alive.
    They’re soft, childlike… incorrectly believing that democracy is invincible.
    It isn’t, it needs strong people to care for it, to keep it alive.
    Never allowing archaic religious cults,
    and despotic totalitarian rulers to be ruthless criminals.
    When Israel isn’t under attack, they will all live peaceful,
    democratic lives. Hamas never will. For them, this war is forever.
    It is a war for the glory of their god and their religious leaders.
    Hamas is the embodiment of the will of the people of Gaza.
    It is a war against Western secular democracy itself.
    This is how you try and determine what is acceptable and what isn’t.
    But for Westerners generally… it is an answer to a question they don’t want to hear.

    • @sanyopoweraid1
      @sanyopoweraid1 9 місяців тому

      Dont engage in historical revisionism, lies, or just poorly educated history, whatever it is you're doing. The US had no reason to drop nuclear weapons on Japan. No reason. Also, the firebombing of Dresden did not make the Nazis surrender. The Soviet Union crushed them in the East more than anything. You need an education on this before you have any kind of arrogance on the topic. Anyone who thinks that, even if Hamas is crushed, a resistance movement won't emerge to fight Israel's occupation and domination, is fooling themselves.

  • @emil1647
    @emil1647 9 місяців тому +1

    How come and where is the ICC in this case and analysis ???

    • @suzieq0452
      @suzieq0452 9 місяців тому

      Still on the Hunt for Blair and Bush. They are having a difficult Time Locating Them.
      Don't hold Breath for the Left's War Crimes to be SEEN by the ICC. They didn't SEE Bush/Blair's.

    • @jnc1771
      @jnc1771 9 місяців тому

      Neither Israel or u.s are signatories to the I.c.c. And Israel in particular eschews any thought of them be held accountable by this court. This is also shown by Israel's rejection of all previous u.n resolutions and any oversight by others. The only truism is that the u.s. May hold some strings to pull, but the appear far weaker now.

  • @kopeducati
    @kopeducati 9 місяців тому

    Ivory tower academics .... So for IDF to prove they re not genocidal the have to sacrifice their own troops? really? Genocide ? with that demography graphics?

  • @MrAbuYaz
    @MrAbuYaz 9 місяців тому

    Israel doesnt surround Gaza. Egypt shares a border.

    • @emmaslyons
      @emmaslyons 9 місяців тому

      Israel controls the rafah border

  • @markett7159
    @markett7159 9 місяців тому

    invented definition not applied to any Muslim country at war

  • @JimmieBrown-sg8fq
    @JimmieBrown-sg8fq 9 місяців тому +1

    Wacky alert! Click

  • @jennifermorris5567
    @jennifermorris5567 9 місяців тому

    Expert, my ass.

  • @badouradavids5105
    @badouradavids5105 9 місяців тому

    THE WEST WITH RESPECT THE LAW DOES NOT MAKE SENSE THE QURAN IS THE BEST CONSTITUTION FROM CAPE TOWN

  • @melissagilbert9654
    @melissagilbert9654 9 місяців тому

    Stop the Opinions!!!
    Be objective for once and stop SPECULATING!!!!
    🤯🤯🤯🤯

  • @SoCal760
    @SoCal760 9 місяців тому +2

    It’s actually quite clear why Israel instructed the Palestinians to leave their homes.
    There’s 😮precedence of how this turned out. In 1948, Israel forced Palestinians to leave E Jerusalem and used the Absentee’s Property Law to confiscate the abandoned land and properties as Israel’s
    This is still the law that allows Israeli settlers to evict generational Palestinians, even if they returned to their properties, and claim their properties
    Israel is now setting up the conditions for that law to be exercised in the near future in the resource-rich Gaza. Their goal is not to root out Hamas, but to take over Gaza

    • @MattAngiono
      @MattAngiono 9 місяців тому

      And criticizing them makes US antisemitic and racist lol.... 🤪

    • @collins48lc
      @collins48lc 9 місяців тому

      Idiot Palestine is the name given by the Romans when they ruled over the Jews It was originally called Judea which means land of the Jews The Jews have lived in that region for almost 4000 years and Islam has existed for 1600.years It's Jewish land and always has been

    • @collins48lc
      @collins48lc 9 місяців тому

      Lie much

    • @MattAngiono
      @MattAngiono 9 місяців тому

      @@collins48lcno, do you?

  • @eitanaltman158
    @eitanaltman158 9 місяців тому

    I stopped watching when he said the fact that Israel has low casualties is evidence that Israel doesn’t want to fight Hamas and therefore = genocide. What an idiotic argument, and he just hand waves away the respective tactical realities on the ground in an asymmetric conflict between a conventional, highly technical military and a terrorist militia embedded within the civilian populace. This is an absurd stretch of non-logic, and the fact he identifies this as a core premise is an admission of the weakness of the argument.
    High casualties in a military conflict does not mean genocide. If genocide is just “a lot of people are dying and I’m mad/sad about it” then the word has lost all meaning as a distinct concept.

  • @Iris-lh7rf
    @Iris-lh7rf 9 місяців тому

    In the name of Allah, we invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. These words make you a servant of Allah ....... ..........

  • @rizawanahmed2090
    @rizawanahmed2090 9 місяців тому +1

    MF Shaitanyahu

  • @gulliegulliver4546
    @gulliegulliver4546 9 місяців тому +97

    Excellent discussion, thank you both.

    • @Iris-lh7rf
      @Iris-lh7rf 9 місяців тому

      In the name of Allah, we invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. These words make you a servant of Allah ....... ..........

  • @Ann-xo8sx
    @Ann-xo8sx 9 місяців тому +51

    Excellent measured, calm, factually based discussion. I hope this case is taken seriously and goes forward through the courts. Thank you!

    • @collins48lc
      @collins48lc 9 місяців тому

      Lies and his court case will fail

  • @zuhairlafir5787
    @zuhairlafir5787 9 місяців тому +34

    Very very informative about law to us, American's and Israel'es are above the worldly law.Will they ever ever ever be penalised. God only know's. Thank you both for the important dis ussion, may god bless both of you.

    • @Iris-lh7rf
      @Iris-lh7rf 9 місяців тому +1

      In the name of Allah, we invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. These words make you a servant of Allah ....... ..........

  • @TheArabDemocrat
    @TheArabDemocrat 9 місяців тому +63

    Biden stated that Israel should stop indiscriminate bombing. However, he also said that he will not stop it.

    • @angelafrattarelli719
      @angelafrattarelli719 9 місяців тому

      Biden should not be funding genocide and with the American taxpayers' money. We the American people, do not want this!!!! Not in our name!!!

    • @fgv1001
      @fgv1001 9 місяців тому

      Biden is talking out of both sides of his ass. He is the ENABLER of this Genocide. He gave them the bombs, ffs!

    • @valtracey6180
      @valtracey6180 9 місяців тому +1

      No, because he wants Hamas cleared out just as much as Israel does, but he wants Netanyahu to take the wrap for it. Fall on his sword etc
      But it is clearly getting very uncomfortable for him.

    • @useyourbrain1539
      @useyourbrain1539 9 місяців тому

      The Big Guy is stupid, there is nothing indiscriminate about IDF bombing. Specific targets are hit, every time.

    • @davidmc8475
      @davidmc8475 9 місяців тому +1

      If it’s targeted how can it be indiscriminate.

  • @PamLeonard-xm8vr
    @PamLeonard-xm8vr 9 місяців тому +63

    We all see what Israel is doing! Unbelievable that they have been allowed to commit this genocide. My heart breaks for the people of Gaza

    • @collins48lc
      @collins48lc 9 місяців тому

      Did the hamas propagandist mention that 7 members of Hamas were just arrested in Europe for planning terrorists attacks in Germany Denmark and the Netherlands

    • @gemmalee3032
      @gemmalee3032 9 місяців тому +1

      because you do not admit the wrongness of Oct 7 massacre and the remaining civilian hostages taken by hamas

    • @ree5403
      @ree5403 8 місяців тому +2

      @@gemmalee3032Palestinian genocide started 75 years ago by racist oppressive settler colonizers, don’t act like this just started Oct 7!!

  • @karihanna82
    @karihanna82 9 місяців тому +65

    Excellent video👏👏👏♥️♥️♥️ and free Free Palestine 🇵🇸♥️🇵🇸♥️

  • @JacintaPalerm
    @JacintaPalerm 9 місяців тому +108

    Viva viva Palestina.

  • @nedim_guitar
    @nedim_guitar 9 місяців тому +41

    The ICJ ruling in the case of Bosnia and Herzegovina vs Serbia was a joke. A lot of evidence that was used in the Milosevic trial wasn't used in the case of B&H vs Ser. Serbia was very much involved and complicit. In May of 1992, Serbia's military formally left Bosnia and Herzegovina, but weaponry and men were left there, they just changed the emblem on their uniforms. Besides, Serbia organized paramilitary forces, sent their own special police forces, sent weapons and money, helped mobilisation to the formally Bosnian Serb army, which was really Serbia's army. Serbia was paying wages and later also pensions to soldiers and officers. It was a very clear cut case, which was partly botched by the Bosnian side, and the ruling was partly political, because it would have been too costly for Serbia due to reparations that Bosnia and Herzegovina would have the right for, which could push Serbia closer into the arms of Russia, instead of European integrations.
    Also, I believe that the term "ethnic cleansing" was coined in relation to the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina, mainly because the international community didn't want to use the word genocide, because then they would be obliged to act, or at least lift the embargo on weapons import and allow the Bosnian government and army to arm themselves and be able defend their country and people. If that happened, I wouldn't be in diaspora now, and several members of my family and friends would very likely still be alive.

    • @truthseekeralways7050
      @truthseekeralways7050 9 місяців тому +6

      Thank You For Sharing 💯🎯🙏🏼👍🏼

    • @tayibahussain
      @tayibahussain 9 місяців тому +7

      World is still sickening

    • @nedim_guitar
      @nedim_guitar 9 місяців тому +13

      @@tayibahussain It sure is. What's happening in Gaza is worse than Bosnia and Herzegovina (if we objectively and by numbers measure things), and we're all seeing it happen live. And those who have the power are only interested in status quo. A few days ago, there was a headline about the US whatever office being concerned about rising settler violence being a danger to stability. Their idea of stability is Israel going from 100,000 illegal settlers in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem in 1993, to 700,000 today. Permanent occupation, dispossession, apartheid and massacres is stability?

    • @c.kainoabugado7935
      @c.kainoabugado7935 9 місяців тому

      The world & courts are currently run by weapons salesmen. They don't want talk about Genocide ending their guaranteed income stream. Lotsa bodies still walking the planet, so lots more to order. The more I learn on international legal views the sicker🤮 I get of the Dominate-the-World jokers of the West. I see why they are also called Predator-class🤑

    • @billybob-vy4sw
      @billybob-vy4sw 9 місяців тому +2

      Correct all of that was planned and implemented in Belgrade.

  • @cengxingliu3620
    @cengxingliu3620 9 місяців тому +108

    On the side of Palestinian people. On the side of conscience and truth.

    • @markett7159
      @markett7159 9 місяців тому

      on the side of Arab settler colonialist and Islamonazis

    • @Zbantri
      @Zbantri 9 місяців тому +1

      viva Palestine

    • @CrusaderGeneral
      @CrusaderGeneral 9 місяців тому +1

      on the side of BS

    • @alexmost166
      @alexmost166 9 місяців тому +2

      Why is your guess slandering Israelis? Baseless claims and accusations. I guess he is allowed to lie as much as he wants.

    • @Nellsmum22
      @Nellsmum22 9 місяців тому

      Always.

  • @googlespynetwork
    @googlespynetwork 9 місяців тому +34

    Just imagine what Israel would be screaming and saying if someone was doing to them, what they are doing to Gaza.

  • @adamesd3699
    @adamesd3699 9 місяців тому +20

    Very interesting and sober discussion. The suggestion of not getting bogged down into a discussion about whether or not this fits all the legal criteria of a genocide and focusing on the fact that Israel is clearly committing legally liable war crimes is an interesting one. As is the suggestion that the US is clearly failing in its obligation to prevent genocide.

    • @rosestewart1606
      @rosestewart1606 9 місяців тому

      There is a case pending against Trudeau too. Canada has a navy...we could send food and aid. We could take a lead diplomatically, but he has done nothing while allowing Canadian weapons to be sold to them. Certainly Canadians have told him enough times.

  • @richardduplessis1090
    @richardduplessis1090 9 місяців тому +21

    At the highest judicial levels the deicision as to whether something is genocide or not is likely to be a political decision cloaked in legal rationale.

  • @c.kainoabugado7935
    @c.kainoabugado7935 9 місяців тому +93

    Attorneys are a trip. I appreciate this one making an online appearance and answering Frank's interesting questions. Also appreciate the answers that gave clues on how Genocide is viewed, treated & discussed in his circles. Its actually eye opening and indicative of why all the serious crimes continue today, not just in Gaza, but worldwide.
    The legal industry within the UN is an EPIC FAIL & needs deep reform towards lasting widespread peace.

    • @Iris-lh7rf
      @Iris-lh7rf 9 місяців тому +2

      In the name of Allah, we invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. These words make you a servant of Allah ....... ..........

    • @Rick_Riff
      @Rick_Riff 9 місяців тому

      The resolutions aren't binding and there isn't an international force capable or willing to enforce the UNs judgments. They can be full of Johnny Cochranes and Chuck McGills, it doesn't matter if their rulings cannot be enforced...

    • @michelegosse7116
      @michelegosse7116 9 місяців тому +2

      I haven't the stomach to listen to that!!

    • @reamcgurk2236
      @reamcgurk2236 9 місяців тому +6

      @@Iris-lh7rf your religious beliefs are your right, but keep them to yourself and your religious community. I like many people have no inerest in hearing about it unsolicited!

    • @valtracey6180
      @valtracey6180 9 місяців тому +5

      @@Iris-lh7rfReligion is a very personal thing - it has no place in politics and even less in governance. You have been indoctrinated in one, I in another, and the rest of the world in many more. I won’t inflict my beliefs on anyone else and I would respectfully ask that no one tries to inflict their beliefs on me.
      If we all think we are right, then the only certainty is that we are all wrong.

  • @amelghrici3408
    @amelghrici3408 9 місяців тому +6

    SOS Gaza children and babies died no food no water many poeple died.poeple of usa stop this War please please

  • @Saturday6547
    @Saturday6547 9 місяців тому +7

    Free Palestine

  • @0xkillswitch
    @0xkillswitch 9 місяців тому +31

    Why is he so reticent to conclude it's genocide? If you use the UN convention on the prevention and punishment of the crime of genocide. Intent is clearly established, and Israel's actions meet 2 of the 4 acts, that constitute genocide. Actions calculated to bring destruction in whole or in PART, and killing or inflicting psychological harm--among other things--in whole or in PART. If you can't see that the sufficient conditions for the UN convention on the prevention and punishment of the crime of Genocide have been met, then it really calls into question his expertise and credentials as a lawyer. It's seriously so clear by law. What the hell is going on here? It's not even a nuanced example of meeting the definition of genocide. Just so clear.

    • @ishubaba4202
      @ishubaba4202 9 місяців тому +8

      Maybe, because winning at court is not about justice prevailing but about “convincing” the judges.
      Then there are“arm twisting” and threats behind the scenes to take into consideration

    • @cycleholic58
      @cycleholic58 9 місяців тому

      He's reticent and rightly so, because it is bad actors within countries that have to be accused of crimes against humanity, not whole nations. All your bluster is based on emotional appeal, which of course no-one working in any reputable criminal court anywhere would demonstrate. In your desperation to paint a whole nation as war criminals you conveniently leave out the real evil in the room, which is a medieval death cult called Hamas and the 70% of Arabs in Gaza who recently stated their support for the atrocities carried out on Oct 07th. Stuff that up your emotions.

    • @rosymylene1878
      @rosymylene1878 9 місяців тому +3

      Agree 100%.

    • @rosymylene1878
      @rosymylene1878 9 місяців тому +5

      I call into question his motives.

    • @alana523
      @alana523 9 місяців тому

      Second Intifada and 10/7 among countless other Palestinian attacks on Israel are by the same definition considered genocide.

  • @ghany.3
    @ghany.3 9 місяців тому +20

    Excellent interview

    • @Iris-lh7rf
      @Iris-lh7rf 9 місяців тому

      In the name of Allah, we invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. These words make you a servant of Allah ....... ..........

    • @ghany.3
      @ghany.3 9 місяців тому

      huh? wtf is that! Go away, I'm Egyptian and I'm sure I know about Islam more than you do, & no thanks I don't want your invitation, and Palestine isn't an Islamic struggle, go away and don't spam the people standing with Palestinians with your crazy shit. @@Iris-lh7rf

  • @desmondaubery9621
    @desmondaubery9621 9 місяців тому +12

    Kudos, gentlemen. A very informative discussion. 🙏❤️

  • @jeromesims
    @jeromesims 9 місяців тому +9

    What was the gist of this expert's opinion that he submitted? That doesn't seem to get covered. Much of the time he is being so pessimistic and skeptical that it's frustrating to watch. The interviewer should have done more to mitigate the grumpy-old-white-guy-who-has-no-horse-in-the-race personality and bring the focus away from this repitious vague hedging. There's so much skepticism here it seems he could just as easily write an opinion that supports the dismissal of any charges. Not that he should be banging on his desk insisting Biden and Bibi be dragged out of office and into a gulag; the interviewer should have done more to get to something more concrete and less deconstructive. You guys can afford the skepticism and pessism, especially about the dessimation of a non-european culture that people were barely giving attention. But many of us do not have that luxury and privilege so please in future indulge us better and don't be so nervous about making clear statements of your opinions and position.

    • @dvegule920
      @dvegule920 9 місяців тому

      Grumpy? White? At least he is trying something and I guess it's going to fail. We can see it as something but the court / judge decids.

    • @jeromesims
      @jeromesims 9 місяців тому +1

      @@dvegule920 If you've never met a grumpy old white guy you haven't lived. I live in the UK and have met a great many. I even know how they vote and how they feel about foreigners. I know how they treat people around them. I know what distinguishes them from grumpy old people of other cultures, because you see "white" is not a race, it's a culture.

    • @mistykaikai
      @mistykaikai 9 місяців тому

      💔

  • @R.IAmEnough
    @R.IAmEnough 9 місяців тому +28

    #Nuremberg
    Justice for Palestine.
    The EU, the US and all complicit governmens must be held responsible.
    All war crimes and crimes against humanity, against the indigenous people of Palestine since 1947 must be taken to ICC.
    Balfour Declaration must be taken to ICC.

    • @1991slsd
      @1991slsd 9 місяців тому

      What kind of nonsense are you talking about? Are you high or something? What EU and US would be held accountable for? For not bombing pallies? Yeah, they should drop some bombs on gaza also. You really do talk just like tiktoker. All words that dont make any sense. Genocide, occupation, war crimes, crimes against humanity. Indigineous people? You mean the jews? Because before the arabs occupied that land, it was Judea. So you should be happy that arab occupiers are being kicked out and indigenous jews are coming back?

  • @Gigismom59
    @Gigismom59 9 місяців тому +8

    Who will put pressure on the United States government?

  • @MdNazmulHoque-y4g
    @MdNazmulHoque-y4g 9 місяців тому +12

    Where is the human rights now

    • @Iris-lh7rf
      @Iris-lh7rf 9 місяців тому

      In the name of Allah, we invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. These words make you a servant of Allah ....... ..........

    • @lfcfan4557
      @lfcfan4557 9 місяців тому +2

      Never mind the rigths, WERE ARE THE HUMANS?

  • @ronaldturner4849
    @ronaldturner4849 9 місяців тому +3

    Among the horrific images coming out of Gaza, are images of children and babies who have required amputation of damaged limbs, something that, if you can even survive without adequate aftercare (sanitary conditions and antibiotics to prevent deadly infections) will leave.these.children (estimated at over a thousand so far) permanently disabled. My question is who, or what entity, will be responsible now for their care as disabled children,? Many are also orphaned by the indescriminant bombings. Since the supply of bombs comes from the US, making the US a facilitator of this brutality, isn't it the US who is obligated to support and care for these victims? Maybe the US also.has earned the responsibility to take care of all the survivors of this ethnic cleansing atrocity?

  • @luulismail3653
    @luulismail3653 9 місяців тому +7

    Thank you for inviting this great MAN! This man is BRAVE!!!

  • @shamim621
    @shamim621 9 місяців тому +15

    Everyone should please watch Chris Hedges"THE GENOCIDE IN GAZA "

    • @Iris-lh7rf
      @Iris-lh7rf 9 місяців тому

      In the name of Allah, we invite you to worship Allah alone, so say: I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. These words make you a servant of Allah ....... ..........

    • @judithmackay7158
      @judithmackay7158 9 місяців тому +2

      An excellent video, I've watched it twice. I think having been there on numerous occasions including standing at the Raffa crossing this time, he can bear witness to what is going on far better than these two who are only viewing it through a tick box of criteria lens.

    • @shamim621
      @shamim621 9 місяців тому +1

      @@judithmackay7158 yes that's true and it dives deeper into the truth and reality of the issue...He makes you understand that Palestinians are humans just like you and I...it was very emotional and touching. I feel like many people don't know what has and is still going on over there and that we can be a voice for the voiceless

  • @johnlay3040
    @johnlay3040 9 місяців тому +16

    We don't need an opinion. We need action to stop it.

  • @Princensitive
    @Princensitive 9 місяців тому +5

    Here is someone who knows the truth but doesn't want to get fired. Frank missed an opportunity to get more from him.

  • @terrycrawford-browne7208
    @terrycrawford-browne7208 9 місяців тому +3

    The Russell Tribunal on Palestine session held in Cape Town in 2011 found that Israeli government conduct towards Palestinians meets the international legal criteria of apartheid as a crime against humanity in terms of the Rome Statute 7 (1)(k). The RToP session in New York in 2012 found that Israel was engaged in "incremental genocide". The RToP session in Brussels in 2014 confirmed that Israel's war on Gaza met the criteria of "war crimes". This year's 2023 Israeli genocide in Gaza has clearly and deliberately intended to kill 2.3 million Gazans by bombings (supplied by the US), starvation and illnesses.
    Thank you Frank. How about SWIFT sanctions against Israel (IL) banks to suspend all financial transactions to and from Israel until the Israeli government agrees to a ceasefire and negotiations with Palestinians, including Hamas? SWIFT as you know is headquartered in Brussels, and falls under the jurisdiction of Belgium -- with the Belgian government having already called for sanctions against Israel.

  • @tahiralodhi619
    @tahiralodhi619 9 місяців тому +5

    Thank you Frank for bringing this gentleman with knowledge and experience. He has been very thorough and clear. Thanks to him.

  • @ernestovalladares198
    @ernestovalladares198 9 місяців тому +4

    Frank, your interviews are very good and contribute a lot of wisdom to the conflicts from Chile, thank you for this wonderful program

  • @arturturk5926
    @arturturk5926 9 місяців тому +5

    I heard they have already sold the oil rights in North Gaza to BP.... HOLY PEOPLE

    • @collins48lc
      @collins48lc 9 місяців тому

      Asswipe Gaza was part of Israel until 2005 when they gave it up in a peace deal Then in 2006 hamas showed up and first thing they did was fire rockets into Israel If Israel wanted the oil of which there is none they wouldn't have given up Gaza to begin with

  • @wiosna102
    @wiosna102 9 місяців тому +6

    There is no doubt that this is a terrible genocide.

  • @ajedi1034
    @ajedi1034 9 місяців тому +8

    I hope this video goes viral. Your guest speaks truth to evil and it is greatly appreciated.

  • @MendeMaria-ej8bf
    @MendeMaria-ej8bf 9 місяців тому +2

    I wonder why our international institutions and organisations for human rights don't have the necessary executive power. Could anybody explain, please?

    • @collins48lc
      @collins48lc 9 місяців тому

      Because it hamas propaganda

    • @Tyiion
      @Tyiion 9 місяців тому

      @@collins48lcHasbara

    • @Tyiion
      @Tyiion 9 місяців тому

      Our international courts were set up by a few Western powers who wanted to make sure they stayed on top.

  • @ericarbib4183
    @ericarbib4183 9 місяців тому +2

    Your world legal expert on genocide never spoke about what happened to all Jews living
    in the Muslim world,nor did he speak about Curds, Inuits, Oigurs etc. Are all these
    populations not existing?Does what happens today to Bosnian Serbsand to Kossovar Serbs,
    what happens today to almost 2 millions Afghans brutally expelled from Pakistan not interest
    him?

  • @lzrdwzrd999
    @lzrdwzrd999 9 місяців тому +2

    14:45, theres nothing new about their methodology, its a direct ripoff of the British 'Terra nullius' policy that they used to justify the attempted extermination of the First Australians.

  • @Bavafa1
    @Bavafa1 9 місяців тому +3

    Excellent conversation and informative. Thank you.

  • @emanoilnita5064
    @emanoilnita5064 9 місяців тому +2

    Why US was against South Africa appartheid and is not against Israel appartheid?

  • @hand4529
    @hand4529 9 місяців тому +2

    Please stop the atrocities committed by the hell on poor indigenous people of Palestine.

  • @msbobojaan
    @msbobojaan 9 місяців тому +2

    You don't need an expert to tell you if there is a genocide. This is not a complicated.

  • @magentaorchids
    @magentaorchids 9 місяців тому +2

    Best talk on genocide from a genocide expert
    Thank you for educating us all

  • @MendeMaria-ej8bf
    @MendeMaria-ej8bf 9 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for this interview. These experts give hope in times where we have no or little hope.

  • @ivelawthomas4246
    @ivelawthomas4246 9 місяців тому +2

    So is Rishi Sunak, and the West.. 😢