I’ve had my M140i shadow for 7 months now. I love it, ultra rapid and running 450 in stage 1 tune with a light map. It’s a bit inert but so capable. The B58 is a hugely tunable unit capable of 700+bhp with some new turbos and meth injection. The internals are so strong. It’s way quicker than my old E90 M3.
Great video, love your honest, open and genuine perception and style. I have an M240i and it’s a great car. I preferred the 2 series styling when I bought the car but the Motech 1 series look amazing and I would happily have one of those in Sunset Orange...
40k ? Don’t know where you’re shopping. Just bought my wife a new M140i (3door) Shadow Edition. White - Media Pack, Front Heated seats etc. Gap and Paint protection 31k ! I’ve looked at everything for 30k - 40k it’s the bargain of the century! I hate to say this however I must tell the truth! I used to own a 2010 NA Evora, I got left for dead by a M135i and a A45 I’m not on about on straight roads either. I’m not a racing driver but competent I am! I’ve had 911’s, Cayman S, Lotus by the dozen including a 2 11 and an Exige S. I’ve even had. Ferrari 430 so I know what I’m on about. The M140i and M240i are good cars! Bloody good.
There is no doubt they are effective but are they fun cars though? I'm planning to spend about £20k and considering an M140i, Cayman, Boxster or maybe pushing it a bit for an Evora.
iain3915 An Evora will be 30k (NA) You can get cheaper cars but I wouldn’t. It’s an amazing package, breaks, handling and all round drivability cannot be beaten at the price. It’s slow thou - very in the NA platform. Cayman S - a bigger grown up Exige S (1.8 SC version). Lacks feel doesn’t feel special. For that money I’d go for a 2nd hand M140i / M240i or a SC Elise. If you want a pure driving experience go for the Lotus it can’t be beaten
@@1970boggy Thanks - useful insight from someone that's had all of them! Elise is a no go - I've had two VX220s and can't cope with the rawness as an only car!
Thanks a lot JayEmm. I recently bought F20 120i and it's lovely but now I wish I'd got one of these instead but I was scared of big bills (buying it secondhand) if it went wrong. I was impressed how quickly you drove, not sure I'd had the nerve to do the same 😁
I have one myself (from Tony) great car due to that engine just wish the steering had more feel. Interesting what you say about the rear tyre size. Good review.
Wonderful car. The likes of which won't be seen again. £140 a year road tax and 30mpg if you drive it like a vicar.. I'm sold. PS. Both you and Chris Harris can't be wrong.
Two years off owning my m140i, love the car totally agree needs LSD. I must say in cold and wet less than perfect conditions trying to drive with any type of real speed is just madness. Still those things aside love the car
I got rid of my 140i... Loved it but on anything other than dry flat roads it really struggled.... Replaced it with a m135i xdrive.. Real world roads and point to point the 140i would be well behind.... Safe driving
A lot of car for the money. That B58 engine along with the ZF box are a joy to behold. It's not perfect it probably need some chassis enhancements If you plan on taking it to the limits . The Auto box is also pretty good on fuel consumption.
I NEVER, I mean NEVER, leave comments on UA-cam. But Jay, you da man. U are fair. U do your research and you tell it like it is. I back you as my favourite reviewer. No one comes close. I hope u make it bro. I’m gonna chat to some friends of mine and try and get u boosted.
Can you please do Renault Sport hatchbacks? I am really interested in your views on those cars. RS Clio 197 and Megane 265 especially. That would be awesome.
@@JayEmmOnCars Well then, thank you at least for considering those cars for review. Hopefully, some of those cars will pop up. Considering how much praise those cars got for being driver's cars, it would be interesting to see your authentic review.
Lack of diff isn't the issue with the mlites, nor is tyres. The standard shocks are AWFUL - a B12 kit or even just a set of bilstein B4's (which are an oem replacement, not a modification) transform it - more secure and predictable handling and none of that awful squirming about that the standard car does.
Well, Cletus, this is a very nice video of a very nice car. Of course, it would have been nice if Clovis had been with you, but you seem to have managed nicely without him. It would be nice if you can maintain this calibre of nice videos in his absence. I hope you have a nice Christmas and a nice New Year.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@@JayEmmOnCars I hate to get nerdy. You talking 135 from the e series. The M135i was never mated with a dct. The 135 convertible E series car was different though. I assume that's where we are getting confused
I guess so, I didn't think it would be too confusing as the current 1 series has no vert at all. Could have sworn the last one was badged M135i but maybe my mistake, I never paid much attention to the smaller BMs until recently. Definitely a 135 convertible with DCT was a thing though!
If you're a decent driver, there is no reason why you can't push on in this in the wet. If the traction light comes on, you're not modulating the throttle correctly. Takes practice.
Thanks for a very thorough review, Jay. Sounds like a nice driving car, after all, it is a Beamer, but it looks like a Golf with the BMW headlights and tail lights and a double kidney grill. Over $40K USD? Unless you’re a devoted Bimmerite, I think there’s better choices!
The wrap because you literally cannot choose any other colours with these, and the exhaust for obvious reasons - I'm not normally a wrap fan (never wrapped a car of my own)
Not for that price, quality, or range.... It's a nice car for the person who gets it but it makes no sense on 1. It's a 1 series for almost 34k 2. The plastic looks as cheap as my old b14 sentra and 3. It looked wobbly while you were recording it going past the curves.... Idk I just could never do bmw with the whole hierarchy of numbered lineups from 1- 8 🤷♂️
You can get them pre-reg with literally no miles on them for under £30k. They are selling them on finance with a £6,500 contribution at the moment meaning the second hand / pre-reg price has been hammered. At that price, I'd say it's a great deal.
@@mopman94 welp I'm more of a up front cash kind of guy and the dollar to euro or pound rate, yeah no. Look if I had to get a BMW then I'd just go all the way and get an m8 when it's out. But since I don't have to, I'll go look into maybe an aston martin or something.
@@roadreg1820 I have but by all means which one's do I need more? Haven't driven an m3, 7 series, i8. Most of the m series I have but I'm not talking crap. I'll just leave it as I see flaws and I haven't been convinced for many bmws for long term. Anyway who's ready for the new z4?
I’m sure it’s a very capable car.. but at the end of the day, it’s a 1 series BMW. About as desirable as a Hyundai Elantra. For similar money you can buy a 2013 plate f13 m6.
*real fan of the m140i. So much tuning potential too*
The BMW M140i straight six is absolutely amazing.
I’ve had my M140i shadow for 7 months now. I love it, ultra rapid and running 450 in stage 1 tune with a light map. It’s a bit inert but so capable. The B58 is a hugely tunable unit capable of 700+bhp with some new turbos and meth injection. The internals are so strong. It’s way quicker than my old E90 M3.
Is it derestricted? and if so where did you get it done?
I just got out of my M140i into M2 comp. it’s a fantastic little car, so underrated
Much closer than people would think. But the m2 looks are on another level.
Great video, love your honest, open and genuine perception and style. I have an M240i and it’s a great car. I preferred the 2 series styling when I bought the car but the Motech 1 series look amazing and I would happily have one of those in Sunset Orange...
40k ?
Don’t know where you’re shopping. Just bought my wife a new M140i (3door) Shadow Edition. White - Media Pack, Front Heated seats etc. Gap and Paint protection 31k !
I’ve looked at everything for 30k - 40k it’s the bargain of the century!
I hate to say this however I must tell the truth! I used to own a 2010 NA Evora, I got left for dead by a M135i and a A45 I’m not on about on straight roads either. I’m not a racing driver but competent I am! I’ve had 911’s, Cayman S, Lotus by the dozen including a 2 11 and an Exige S. I’ve even had. Ferrari 430 so I know what I’m on about.
The M140i and M240i are good cars! Bloody good.
There is no doubt they are effective but are they fun cars though? I'm planning to spend about £20k and considering an M140i, Cayman, Boxster or maybe pushing it a bit for an Evora.
iain3915
An Evora will be 30k (NA)
You can get cheaper cars but I wouldn’t. It’s an amazing package, breaks, handling and all round drivability cannot be beaten at the price. It’s slow thou - very in the NA platform.
Cayman S - a bigger grown up Exige S (1.8 SC version). Lacks feel doesn’t feel special.
For that money I’d go for a 2nd hand M140i / M240i or a SC Elise. If you want a pure driving experience go for the Lotus it can’t be beaten
@@1970boggy Thanks - useful insight from someone that's had all of them! Elise is a no go - I've had two VX220s and can't cope with the rawness as an only car!
iain3915
Make you right there sir !
You really need another car for everyday use. I’m buying another Lotus for myself 😂
Not sure which yet 🤔
£40k is the list price. This was around £30k.
Great review, Love my manual M140i, fabulous car and one of the last big engined manuals to be manufactured.
I am so glad to hear you compare it to FiST as these are two cars I am constantly comparing in my head. Loving your channel!
Would love an M140i, probably going to get one latter part of the year. Your videos have given me a goal for my first mod also - and LSD.
Thanks a lot JayEmm. I recently bought F20 120i and it's lovely but now I wish I'd got one of these instead but I was scared of big bills (buying it secondhand) if it went wrong. I was impressed how quickly you drove, not sure I'd had the nerve to do the same 😁
I have one myself (from Tony) great car due to that engine just wish the steering had more feel. Interesting what you say about the rear tyre size. Good review.
Steering is perfect. Adds weight as you push on.
Nothing wrong with a BMW fest M//erry Christmas 🎄
Wonderful car. The likes of which won't be seen again. £140 a year road tax and 30mpg if you drive it like a vicar.. I'm sold.
PS. Both you and Chris Harris can't be wrong.
m140i over the a45 ANY day!
Just recently found your channel. Loving your videos, keep it up.
Thankyou
Two years off owning my m140i, love the car totally agree needs LSD.
I must say in cold and wet less than perfect conditions trying to drive with any type of real speed is just madness.
Still those things aside love the car
I got rid of my 140i... Loved it but on anything other than dry flat roads it really struggled.... Replaced it with a m135i xdrive.. Real world roads and point to point the 140i would be well behind.... Safe driving
@@patrickjhorton1 with you behind the wheel maybe pal, but with a few mods to the 140 it will handle much better
I’m a huge fan of anything with a BMW I-6 installed......esp the old 500 series
A lot of car for the money. That B58 engine along with the ZF box are a joy to behold. It's not perfect it probably need some chassis enhancements If you plan on taking it to the limits . The Auto box is also pretty good on fuel consumption.
DCT? Talking crap without checking facts
@@nessuno5403 My mistake , now corrected for you 😉.
I NEVER, I mean NEVER, leave comments on UA-cam. But Jay, you da man. U are fair. U do your research and you tell it like it is. I back you as my favourite reviewer. No one comes close. I hope u make it bro. I’m gonna chat to some friends of mine and try and get u boosted.
Great cars ! Great vid too 👌🏼
Ive said it once and I'll say it again. How is this guy not a top gear presenter.
So, can we just put wider tyres on these wheels or will we need to buy wider wheels?
“Budget tires, GoodYear or Bridgestones” what
Great review
Great review of a last of its kind car... Miss mine...
Can you please do Renault Sport hatchbacks? I am really interested in your views on those cars. RS Clio 197 and Megane 265 especially. That would be awesome.
I am working on bringing some French fun to the channel but it is proving tricky finding people with those cars!
@@JayEmmOnCars Well then, thank you at least for considering those cars for review. Hopefully, some of those cars will pop up. Considering how much praise those cars got for being driver's cars, it would be interesting to see your authentic review.
I much preferred the looks of the old 1 Series to the new 1/2. Particularly the coupe/vert. I’m still after finding my perfect 135
500 horse power in a 1 series! Amazing.
Great vid as always like to see you do a mapped one with a diff next ;)
Check out my 440i Motech video, that was mapped with a diff
Lack of diff isn't the issue with the mlites, nor is tyres.
The standard shocks are AWFUL - a B12 kit or even just a set of bilstein B4's (which are an oem replacement, not a modification) transform it - more secure and predictable handling and none of that awful squirming about that the standard car does.
Hi - sorry of this has been answered already - is it standard, or adaptive suspension version?
Adaptive
If they made it in x drive I'd be tempted the diesel gets it why not the rapid widow maker?
There was an Xdrive in Europe. LHD only I bet.
Felice Graziano There is an x-drive option available in the UK.
Wish we had this in the USA
Great car
Sure is
Well, Cletus, this is a very nice video of a very nice car. Of course, it would have been nice if Clovis had been with you, but you seem to have managed nicely without him. It would be nice if you can maintain this calibre of nice videos in his absence. I hope you have a nice Christmas and a nice New Year.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Any owners here to tell us about reliability and running costs you’ve incurred?
I'm afraid there is no dct in any mlite car (135,240,140,235). And no 135 convertible hmmmmmm
There was
@@JayEmmOnCars I hate to get nerdy. You talking 135 from the e series. The M135i was never mated with a dct. The 135 convertible E series car was different though. I assume that's where we are getting confused
I guess so, I didn't think it would be too confusing as the current 1 series has no vert at all. Could have sworn the last one was badged M135i but maybe my mistake, I never paid much attention to the smaller BMs until recently.
Definitely a 135 convertible with DCT was a thing though!
@@JayEmmOnCars will bmw do away with dct. As new m5 has a zf box hmmmmmm. I guess see what the next m3 comes boasting
@@TomPeacock doesn't make financial sense to spend money on a box they only use in one car, and the Auto is getting better all the time.
I'm sure they're great cars, but I cannot get past those looks. Much prefer the M235/240.
Gapped by a fiesta St 😂😝
Great video none the less
Try it on those same roads when its wet!
This reaction? images.app.goo.gl/muZjJDFQFxkbZUDB9
If you're a decent driver, there is no reason why you can't push on in this in the wet. If the traction light comes on, you're not modulating the throttle correctly. Takes practice.
M135i Convertible? You must mean 135i M sport..?
Yes that's what I meant
Its nothing like a fiesta ST.
Please review new Renault Megane RS. Cheers mate.
It's on my to do list!
I'll never own one at this rate :-( damn
Thanks for a very thorough review, Jay. Sounds like a nice driving car, after all, it is a Beamer, but it looks like a Golf with the BMW headlights and tail lights and a double kidney grill. Over $40K USD? Unless you’re a devoted Bimmerite, I think there’s better choices!
Bimmer*
nes suno
*bummer😂
@@itsalgud1459 Thatsalgud1 😜
Drove one of these and they are a loose weapon. Cool car, but I'll stick with m3.
Subaru WRX, Mustang GT
His recommendations are straight out of the UA-camrs' training manual...a wrap and an aftermarket exhaust. Both as desirable in the real world as HPV.
The wrap because you literally cannot choose any other colours with these, and the exhaust for obvious reasons - I'm not normally a wrap fan (never wrapped a car of my own)
Your grandmonthers M135i Convertable - are you sure about that...?
Stepmother and it was a 135i M Sport
JayEmm on Cars Sorry mate, you did say stepmother!
when you say m135i convertible you mean 135i convertible because there's no such thing as an m135i convertible
Yes that is what I meant
@@JayEmmOnCars You correct yourself later on in the video so it's all good. Have a great Christmas
Not for that price, quality, or range.... It's a nice car for the person who gets it but it makes no sense on 1. It's a 1 series for almost 34k 2. The plastic looks as cheap as my old b14 sentra and 3. It looked wobbly while you were recording it going past the curves.... Idk I just could never do bmw with the whole hierarchy of numbered lineups from 1- 8 🤷♂️
You can get them pre-reg with literally no miles on them for under £30k. They are selling them on finance with a £6,500 contribution at the moment meaning the second hand / pre-reg price has been hammered. At that price, I'd say it's a great deal.
@@mopman94 welp I'm more of a up front cash kind of guy and the dollar to euro or pound rate, yeah no. Look if I had to get a BMW then I'd just go all the way and get an m8 when it's out. But since I don't have to, I'll go look into maybe an aston martin or something.
I think you need to drive a few before making those kinds of statement.
@@CRMXL weird flex but ok
@@roadreg1820 I have but by all means which one's do I need more? Haven't driven an m3, 7 series, i8. Most of the m series I have but I'm not talking crap. I'll just leave it as I see flaws and I haven't been convinced for many bmws for long term.
Anyway who's ready for the new z4?
I’m sure it’s a very capable car.. but at the end of the day, it’s a 1 series BMW. About as desirable as a Hyundai Elantra. For similar money you can buy a 2013 plate f13 m6.
The two issues with the M6 being its gargantuan size and its running costs. Plus on finance the M6 will still be a lot more
Had a 640 f13 coming from a z4, it only takes a few hours to get used to the size.
I had a e63 645ci, it was not fun to park in London or drive down an English country road
2013 my brave pills required
M6
Bit on the ugly site