GATHERING STORM: The Origin of Modern Warhammer 40k | Warhammer 40,000 Lore

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  • @talscorner3696
    @talscorner3696 Рік тому +22

    I remember enjoying Trazhyn's scenes in those books so much: man's chilling in his own tropical retirée when everything in the galaxy is going to fucking shit and when the bell starts tolling so hard it breaks his stuff he's like "OI?! Can't have that!" and casually drops it *in the Webway* xD

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  Рік тому +6

      Yeah it's one of my favourite parts. Even in this, there's space for silliness.

    • @talscorner3696
      @talscorner3696 Рік тому +1

      @@ArbitorIan I think it's one of the reasons I love 40k so much, when the authors manage to slide humour in and it just makes sense with the rest of the context.

  • @BentJacket
    @BentJacket Рік тому +256

    For those wondering what happened to the Ynarri story; Seeing the eldar having 4 of the 5 crone swords slaanesh said "My ball and im taking it home" and just yoinked the 5th one. Unable to get the sword, the story is over and never mentioned again. gg. Great vid as usual Ian.

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 Рік тому +72

      My assumption is that the Gathering Storm storyline was meant to pave the way for an "End Times" style storyline, such as the one that, well, ended Warhammer Fantasy. In essence, the Ynarri potentially getting the five swords and killing Slaanesh would have been part of a big event that ended 40K, paving the way for a setting reboot like that of Age of Sigmar.
      But then GW saw how poorly received End Times was, and got cold feet. They didn't necessarily want to torpedo their cash-cow game. So they quietly scrapped plans for a full reboot, and went with the Indomitus Crusade instead. A definite shake-up of the 40K formula, but not the rebuild from square one that Age of Sigmar was.

    • @Darktusken
      @Darktusken Рік тому +41

      @@Bluecho4 yep the ynnari was meant to be a way to merge the eldar factions but that plan was abandonned and now the ynari are aimless and without purpose and just sit there as a reminder of that failed idea .

    • @BentJacket
      @BentJacket Рік тому +21

      @@Bluecho4 It seems likely you are right. I dont think they need to scrap it however, its pretty open ended. GW have an issue with slaanesh anyway, with the sexual element of it. They did away with the prince of pleasures in AoS already, likely for similar reasons. You can have all the violence you want in the grimdark future but no sex please, we are British. I personally liked that there was some story line going on with a faction other then imperum, I hope something comes of this, if not getting the 5th sword some sort of "Well we got 4, thats pretty good, lets see what we can do with that" or just special Death Cult units for the faction.

    • @recce8619
      @recce8619 Рік тому +19

      I'd heard the problem was the Ynarri/Eldar books weren't selling, so they stopped progressing the story

    • @jerrywheyland7324
      @jerrywheyland7324 Рік тому +9

      @@recce8619 that would be too bad. To me it sounded like the most interesting story by far.
      The whole setup sounds great honestly, involvement of many major factions, all playing pivotal roles in progressing the story and not being complete pushovers.

  • @fionn2220
    @fionn2220 Рік тому +248

    So much of the art in this campaign was just incredible. Games Workshops artists definitely do not get enough credit because I swear a good 60% of the impact and uniqueness of the setting comes from their work.

    • @changer_of_ways_999
      @changer_of_ways_999 Рік тому +16

      It really is taken for granted a lot. The artwork is so good now, you just "get used to it."

    • @Blacknight8850
      @Blacknight8850 Рік тому +13

      Unfortunately they don't get _any_ credit anymore - they stopped listing artist and writer credits from books years ago.

    • @yousuck785why
      @yousuck785why Рік тому +6

      @@Blacknight8850 wait what the fuck?

    • @kyokyodisaster4842
      @kyokyodisaster4842 Рік тому +13

      @@yousuck785why
      Harassment of a certain Ultramarine writer resulted in GW changing their modius operandi with artists and writers. In short, its to 'protect them from harassment'.

    • @djangofett4879
      @djangofett4879 Рік тому

      @@kyokyodisaster4842 can you elaborate? i haven't heard about this

  • @Kristian.B.Kristiansen
    @Kristian.B.Kristiansen Рік тому +252

    I can think of few better UA-camrs than you to cover this.

    • @lockett7106
      @lockett7106 Рік тому +78

      Had to read this a couple times to realise it was a compliment.

    • @robertoleary5470
      @robertoleary5470 Рік тому +11

      @@lockett7106 me too 😂

    • @Kristian.B.Kristiansen
      @Kristian.B.Kristiansen Рік тому +17

      @@lockett7106 Ian is fair, balanced, very well read and knowledgeable about the setting.
      This was a truly excellent primer on a complicated but crucial part of 40k lore.

    • @lockett7106
      @lockett7106 Рік тому +7

      @@Kristian.B.Kristiansen no doubt. I just misread your comment.

    • @vaudevillian7
      @vaudevillian7 Рік тому +12

      Definitely, probably my favourite channel for fluff (or ‘lore’ as it seems to have become now) and GW history, appreciate that he knows what he’s on about and talks like a human talking to other humans and doesn’t try to be edgy or hyper

  • @GustavSvard
    @GustavSvard Рік тому +81

    As a veteran non-player (played Warhammer Fantasy Battle from when the first box came out til a few years before Age of Sigmar happened, but the lore of 40k was always compelling!) this does indeed fill in a *LOT* of holes in my knowledge of how the storyline started moving forwards.
    So, big thanks for making this :)

  • @klingonmage
    @klingonmage Рік тому +100

    This was so useful for someone who only got into 40k In 9th edition. Please do a physic awakening summary like this!

  • @WolfT33
    @WolfT33 Рік тому +51

    I love how all the reasons for the factions getting involved is perfectly in line with their character with Chaos being the one causing the conflic resulting in the Imperium reacting while the Eldar are gathered through faith and prophesies and gratee plans and finally the Necrons (Trazyn) just doing it because they (he) thought it'd be fun, all culminating in Chaos doing the space equivalent of flipping the table

  • @hannahgeraghty4201
    @hannahgeraghty4201 Рік тому +23

    The sisters of silence and Adeptus Custodes joined these crusading armies, only occasionally wiping out all the primaris marines that they were travelling with.

  • @emeraldcelestial1058
    @emeraldcelestial1058 Рік тому +49

    Dude i love your 40k content so much, its so calm and fun and not 'BIG NEWS IN THE 40K UNIVERSE DAY 204567 EPIC UA-cam VIDEO BUT SAME AT THE VIDEO THAT WAS POSTED YESTERDAY'
    seriously, you are so needed in this community for being chill as fuck

  • @lamicrobio...engros5427
    @lamicrobio...engros5427 Рік тому +52

    I remember how exciting it was, how much new stuff coming in and the waiting for the final story line of this arc

  • @solarmacharius
    @solarmacharius Рік тому +65

    Never understood why GW didn't release this as a novel series as opposed to game books which you can't even buy anymore.

    • @AAhmou
      @AAhmou Рік тому +22

      Yup, each of these events could have made a novel on its own.
      Heck, Fall of Cadia could have been a trilogy.

    • @DaveSmithFishing
      @DaveSmithFishing 6 місяців тому

      This bit about Cawl and the pylons, the eldar etc.. I swear it's in Cawls book, The Great Work.

  • @changer_of_ways_999
    @changer_of_ways_999 Рік тому +19

    My favorite event around the beginning of this was the Siege of Fenris. It was really cool to have a massive showdown of Thousand Sons against Space Wolves.

  • @stewartriley4690
    @stewartriley4690 Рік тому +5

    Being something who only got into 40K in the last year this was really helpful for understanding some of the history of the current setting

  • @Demigodish4o3
    @Demigodish4o3 Рік тому +28

    Incredible retelling of events!
    Makes me excited for the Arcs of Omen events.

  • @syafri88
    @syafri88 Рік тому +3

    Not gonna lie, the scene where Calgar shouted for them to stop, and when Guilliman step out from the machine was a powerful scene that makes your hair stands.

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 Рік тому +16

    Your presentation style is perfect for this story. Odyssey is almost an understatement.

  • @alastaircollins1145
    @alastaircollins1145 Рік тому +6

    Great Summary, thanks :)
    I remember when the "Eye of Terror" campaign started being announced and, as the only person in my immediate circle who had cared about Battlefleet Gothic, let alone read the story in the rulebook, I was alone in recognising the Blackstone Fortresses as a sign that an interwoven narrative was being put together. It was exciting.

  • @henrikwannheden7114
    @henrikwannheden7114 Рік тому +4

    My mind is blown. I've been following this development for years, but concentrated like this.. insane. Ian, You are a very good narrator.

  • @Inquisdrknss
    @Inquisdrknss Рік тому +10

    Thank you, this is the Lore I missed between leaving the game after the Fall of Cadia and coming back in 2020.

  • @Sinistralitee
    @Sinistralitee 8 місяців тому +1

    Trazyn is probably my favorite character in all this, he's just in here for the fun and nothing else.

  • @Bobahat
    @Bobahat Рік тому +6

    Thanks for this, Ian! I've been busy being a new dad for the past few years and came back to 40k completely confused and baffled by what was going on. You brought me up to speed in less than half an hour. You are my bloody hero!

  • @WarriorTier
    @WarriorTier Рік тому +2

    I really loved this video, might be my favorite. Really well done as always!

  • @phildman132
    @phildman132 Рік тому +1

    As someone with a large 10-15 year gap in my warhammer playing knowledge, this was a great catch up as to what on earth happened to the setting while I was away! Another great lore video as always

  • @LimerickJim
    @LimerickJim Рік тому +12

    Maybe I'm showing my Ahriman fan boyness but I feel that Yiv reversing the Rubric on a squad of Rubricae in the Webway is an important event of this confluence.

  • @mashzapotato
    @mashzapotato Рік тому +6

    My memory of the news of these books coming out was a collective sigh of relief in the fandom (at least my part of it). Games workshop's insistence that they would not move past the last year of the 41st millennium had become a weight around the neck of setting and it was starting to stagnate. And while I haven't been super thrilled about any of the new stuff (where my blue-skinned bois at GW?!) I'm glad they're willing to let the setting evolve again.

  • @liamross1639
    @liamross1639 Рік тому +8

    Hey mate, I just got to say that this sort of video was exactly what I was hoping for. You summarised the lore in such a good way and I would love for you to continue this series covering more events and providing a timeline. Great job, and keep it up!

  • @Pizzifrizzo
    @Pizzifrizzo Рік тому +5

    I love that you pointed out that 40k, though now having a "main storyline", is still able to also be a "setting". The recent Charadon and Octarius campaigns are proof of this and the former in particular is one of the better examples of "modern 40k" IMO.

    • @qwer9676
      @qwer9676 Рік тому

      while true there’s now big chunks removed from the sandbox and now turned into a fixed narrative

  • @GentleBen_86
    @GentleBen_86 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for this. I fell out of the hobby during 4th edition and came back in the middle of 8th so this really helps fill in a lot of holes in the lore for me.

  • @smoessmee
    @smoessmee Рік тому +2

    I really like these, I've been away from 40K for quite some time, so it's nice to have concise summaries like this, that also give enough detail to be interesting :)

  • @BecauseOfDragons
    @BecauseOfDragons Рік тому +9

    So incredibly well told. Was properly fascianting and filled in a bunch of gaps for me about what happened before Guilliman was brought back. Can't wait to get more of these giving an overview of the lore leading up to where we are now AND of course the continuation of the Arks Of Omen series. Great stuff as always!

  • @Alexrex77
    @Alexrex77 Рік тому +1

    I didn't realize how Eldar-heavy this new lore was. thanks for putting this video together.

  • @Eruidraith
    @Eruidraith Рік тому +3

    This was such a fun time to be playing! It was so cool to feel like your battles could now kinda be plugged into a specific campaign in the larger clusterfuck. I started running Cadians for the first time, instead of using my guardsmen as counts-as Tallarns, imagining they were hard pressed survivors.

  • @nicholasleon7819
    @nicholasleon7819 Рік тому +2

    I just love to imagine the disbelief and exuberance Calgar must have felt when his father stood before him restored

  • @TattooedTabletop
    @TattooedTabletop Рік тому +5

    This is probably one of the best lore videos I've seen on this topic. I've been in 40k for a few years but seldom can I find myself keeping up with everything. This video with all the incredible artwork helped so much! I can wait to see more videos like this as the Arks of Omen unfolds! Lore is what really keeps bringing me into the hobby and you are a masterclass ❤️

  • @hallstuart6604
    @hallstuart6604 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much for doing this!!
    Great video Ian!

  • @Sonicron86
    @Sonicron86 Рік тому +2

    Awesome!!! I'd tried to get ahold of the Gathering Storm books, but no luck, so I was completely out of the loop on these important events. Thank you for this retelling - you've saved me money, time and nerves! As before, I'll keep recommending your channel to anyone looking to get into 40k lore. You're simply the best there is for that. :)

  • @alphaprawns
    @alphaprawns Рік тому +1

    Awesome video, appreciate the summary. Gathering Storm was around the time I was becoming extremely jaded about GW's general strategy of gouging money with dozens of supplements and army books so I missed a lot of the lore surrounding it, but it's very compelling seeing the overarching storyline progress.

  • @chrimbuloscron
    @chrimbuloscron Рік тому

    Thanks so much! Please keep doing more of these! I'm watching these like I used to watch Saturday morning cartoons in the '80s.

  • @MaxOVADrive
    @MaxOVADrive Рік тому +5

    Ian, thanks for putting this together. Now I don't have to hunt down and over-pay for the Gathering Storm books! Also, how bonkers is 40K? I mean, it's pretty bonkers. I love it.

  • @volkarve
    @volkarve Рік тому +1

    I've been hoping you'd do this recap. Great video

  • @DAMIENDICE
    @DAMIENDICE Рік тому +3

    Fantastic summary!
    I hope GW picks up the Ynnari storyline some day

  • @Surrogate_Gaia
    @Surrogate_Gaia Рік тому +6

    A timeline? Yes please. It would be great to have a concise idea of when events take place with the Dark Imperium, even if the Great Rift itself kind of messes with that.

  • @davidcook73
    @davidcook73 Рік тому +3

    Love these deep dives, Ian, keep them coming!

  • @adamduncombe594
    @adamduncombe594 Рік тому

    Outstanding. Thanks for taking the time to do this! Great stuff

  • @dalgafaik966
    @dalgafaik966 11 місяців тому

    Great summary. I've read all three of the books, and even I needed that! Can't wait for the following series! Thanks, Ian!

  • @lastsurvivingemothefox9797
    @lastsurvivingemothefox9797 Рік тому +2

    I bought the whole shebang on ebay- got a great deal on all the models n books and art- big big event :) glad to have it on my shelf- and you’ve done a good job covering it

  • @KillerOrca
    @KillerOrca Рік тому +1

    This is about the time I first properly got into 40k. I knew it existed before but only in the periphery of my attention. Gathering Storm is when things really got me going.

  • @KMn048
    @KMn048 Рік тому +2

    I really appreciate this! Along with your Horus Heresy evolution video, I’ve only been the hobby since covid so I’ve always had a hard time telling what fluff was there before GS because my view of the lore is completely based on what we have in 9th.
    Keep up (Cawl’s) great work!

  • @316CodeRed
    @316CodeRed Рік тому +1

    I'm really looking forward to more summaries like this! Everywhere I've tried to find a condensed retelling of these events or Psychic Awakening or even the recent Warzones, I've gotten too confused.

  • @itshawx4697
    @itshawx4697 Рік тому +1

    Ok something like this is what I have been looking for for so long
    If you were to do these in more detail and just more of them I would watch the hell out of these

  • @hb3n164
    @hb3n164 Рік тому +1

    Incredible video, i never knew where to find the lore on this period. You earned a new subscriber!

  • @Awoken_Remmuz
    @Awoken_Remmuz Рік тому

    I remember hearing of this back in the day but since I wasn't as deep into 40k as nowadays I didn't absorb any details.
    Personally I find this refreshing in a day and age where companies are so paranoid about rocking the boat and stir things up franchises kinda end up feeling like stale swamp water.
    So the fact GW was willing to commit to an actual step forward in the narrative and actually codify something of impact in 40K is something I respect, even if I can understand why some of the directions isn't everyone's cup of tea.

  • @dragonsgreedgaming13
    @dragonsgreedgaming13 Рік тому +1

    Great stuff as always. For someone who might not ever get a chance to read the novels, I would love to see more vids like this detailing the lore as it crossed from 7e to 8e and now 9e.

  • @seandollard4441
    @seandollard4441 Рік тому

    Great video! It did indeed fill in so knowledge gaps for I felt a bit lost lore wise when I got back into 40K 2 years ago.

  • @miameramusic
    @miameramusic Рік тому

    This was like 40k’s all-star game, pretty much every main character in their universe

  • @oliverwarren1074
    @oliverwarren1074 Рік тому

    Thanks so much for this video, fantastic as always and great to get up to speed on what would have otherwise taken be about 100 hours to read

  • @marcuswallbank3890
    @marcuswallbank3890 Рік тому +1

    nice work Ian, you made it all easy to understand.

  • @DziaduzLasu
    @DziaduzLasu Рік тому +3

    OMG that ZX SPECTRUM reference :D 😍

  • @watchingbrian1767
    @watchingbrian1767 Рік тому

    Cant over state how much of a good job you did and are doing Ian!

  • @jakewu8268
    @jakewu8268 Рік тому +1

    A most informative video Arbitor Ian. Great vid. 👍

  • @JayB9127
    @JayB9127 Рік тому

    Great update on the Lore, and there I was wonder what to tackle next after the HH! much appreciated thanks

  • @urilacambrafrias
    @urilacambrafrias Рік тому +1

    Amazing video. Really looking forward to more like that.

  • @mel.vin1848
    @mel.vin1848 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video. So informative. Please keep up your amazing work.

  • @mysticlegion8088
    @mysticlegion8088 Рік тому +2

    This was pretty good, thanks.

  • @ArkadiBolschek
    @ArkadiBolschek Рік тому

    Thank you for these videos! 🙏 I've been quite disconnected from developments in the lore of WH40K for the last few years, and this is really helping me catch up with the storyline going into 10th edition

  • @SC1ENCEP1E
    @SC1ENCEP1E Рік тому +1

    I loved A Border Princes read through of the Campaign Book lore and he was cracking up by the time it got the Red Corsairs, we were all the same tbf

  • @AcornPlays
    @AcornPlays Рік тому

    I only got into the hobby in 2020, and the vibe I've got is that basically the lore didn't move essentially from like 2nd edition until this Gathering Storm storyline. Since I've been in the hobby they've been adding interesting new little bits and pieces and it's really engaging to follow. I wanna see a few more drastic things like they really should have killed off Calgar in Nihilus

  • @silcharus1
    @silcharus1 Рік тому

    I was just thinking I needed a summary of recent Warhammer history... and this appears in my feed!

  • @jsauer30
    @jsauer30 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video! I'd love to see a good summary of psychic awakening. I missed out on a few of the middle books.

  • @66morningview
    @66morningview Рік тому

    Well that was wild!
    I haven't played 40k for ~15 years (around the time of the 13th Black Crusade/Eye of Terror campaign). So this really useful in catching me up on things.
    Would love to see more videos bridging the gap from here to Arcs of Omen.

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  Рік тому

      Ah, well that's the video called Psychic Awakening!

  • @kwanzaatim
    @kwanzaatim Рік тому

    My man.... Thank you, you do a great job.

  • @tremolo_painter
    @tremolo_painter Рік тому

    "Um, sir, will all of this be in the test?" :) I am going to have to watch this more than once to follow it!

  • @ithemba
    @ithemba Рік тому

    I began playing in 3rd and played through 4th edition before stopping for many years. I remember checking in after I heard about Gathering Storm, reading the campaign book, since I knew the whole Cadia scenario well from the Eye of Terror Campaign, and being complete put off by its style. I never started playing again, basically turning my back on 40k again for years and years.
    What I loved about the warhammer books was the suggestive open world feeling of all the bits of lore: seldom was any bit of lore established as definitive fact, a lot was purposefully obscured, ie because the lore text was a fictive piece of imperial archive material and had been censored by the Inquisition or some such. Most stuff was rumored or at least overshadowed by doubt or different theories, or straight up superstition. Texts that conciously tried to NOT be canonical. The feeling of the slow decay of knowledge and information over the 10.000 years since the heresy into a world of controlled propaganda, blisfull ignorance and turning into religious dogma what once was straight up history or fact: I remember how the first codex Malleus made VERY clear that the popolace (and rank and file of the Imperial Army) were left ignorant about the very existence of the threat Chaos, Demons and even the continued existance of traitor legions. Planets population was systematically purged after they encountered (and beat back) Chaos Invasions so as to contain the information about the very existance of that threat - just as with the populace of Armageddon after the first war, when they beat back Angorns World Eaters.
    I remember how my friends and I spent the summer of the eye of terror campaign heatedly discussing all the lore implications and or hints and bait in the campaign book about characters and their motivation to take part in the battle for Cadia.
    I LOVED that. It always felt like an invitation to tell your own stories in the dark future of the 41st millenium. It was a exclamation mark: Insert your own story here!
    I was sooooo taken aback by the new style and the demystification of once completely mythical figures like Primarchs by having them as straight up protagonists of the story. The 42nd Millenium and its lore basically has barely anything left of what Wh40k was for me.

  • @mikewicked.x
    @mikewicked.x Рік тому

    Great video, and I'd absolutely love to have you breakdown the story of other narrative campaigns held in the 40k universe in the same way.
    Maybe also, and I don't know if it's feasible, but a video on the history (and evolution) of the narrative campaign books might also be useful?

  • @forresttdepriest713
    @forresttdepriest713 Рік тому

    As always your videos are amazing! Thanks for all the hard work!

  • @Steventrafford
    @Steventrafford Рік тому

    Thank you very much for this lore. I would love more of this.

  • @greaterpainter7996
    @greaterpainter7996 Рік тому

    It would be great to have an entire series of the stories so far. I've returned to 40k in 9th after a decade long hiatus. I missed 6,7,8th editions and none of my local club can give me a real breakdown of what I missed.

  • @martinarnold5239
    @martinarnold5239 Рік тому

    Not gonna lie, I was hooked listening to this.

  • @minipaintingforyou
    @minipaintingforyou Рік тому

    Sounds a lot like a reunion episode in season 11 of a sitcom, that really only had enough inspiration for 4 seasons 😂
    Thank you for sharing!

  • @grayson6451
    @grayson6451 Рік тому

    amazing work!

  • @Florfilm
    @Florfilm Рік тому

    Awesome video. My favorite of your lore videos. The only videos I like more are your book club videos.

  • @JR-dd4ec
    @JR-dd4ec Рік тому

    Another freaking great video by you Ian!!!!!

  • @joelwashere5382
    @joelwashere5382 Рік тому

    Oh man! What a treat this was 😊

  • @DARmanbuttermilk1136
    @DARmanbuttermilk1136 Рік тому

    Holy shit this was so cool to hear. The build up to the revival of Guilliman made me so hype. Courage and Honor! Made me hype to be an Ultramarine.

  • @Oleus
    @Oleus Рік тому

    A simple and clear summary, as usual. Thanks, Ian. 😄

  • @boaz2578
    @boaz2578 Рік тому

    Best summary to date!!!

  • @jimjimson9
    @jimjimson9 Рік тому

    So good Ian keep it going

  • @BaijoGosum
    @BaijoGosum Рік тому

    This was great. Looking forward to the next one. Full timeline!

  • @Nyctophora
    @Nyctophora Рік тому

    Thank you for the summary. I don't blame you for the fact that this is the reason I kind of daren't ask for any more new Eldar lore.

  • @robert2pkt0
    @robert2pkt0 Рік тому +1

    I am amazed, again, how you can just bind me to intensely listening to your explanaitions of so many layered story elements for 30 Minutes and I feel intellectually fed and stimulated and at the same time I have an inkling more understanding of this vast 40k universe. Thank you!
    So one question, I am a little new to this (only 16 books in, 9 Ciaphas Cain and the rest your recommendations) - this seems like several factions, emperor botherers, pragmatists and eldar alike side to fight Chaos - is this a trend that continues e.g. with Indomitus or is every alliance connection severed as soon as the story has no more use from it?
    Just seeing it from the perspective this grim dark thing with no hope is just a phase 🫣
    And what book series would you recommend to be able to catch up the the „latest“ developments, so I can just get the new releases in the future?

  • @disposable157
    @disposable157 Рік тому

    I *just* started playing an Ynari army so this provided some much-needed context :D

  • @strawberrypuddin8919
    @strawberrypuddin8919 11 місяців тому +1

    Something about Gilliman fighting Magnus the Red on the moon is so baller. I haven't read the books yet though, do they exchange fun dialogue? I hope they do

  • @poppyappletree1400
    @poppyappletree1400 Рік тому +1

    My personal interpretation is that the original description of the 13th Black Crusade - in which Eldrad dies - is a future foreseen by Eldrad which he chooses to avert.

  • @theforgottenbard8978
    @theforgottenbard8978 Рік тому +3

    I can't help but think when guilliman revived it was akin to seeing a wwe hall of famer showing up to beat the current heel.

  • @8AFM4
    @8AFM4 Рік тому

    To add on your theory: The old lore spoke of a lone guardsmen seeing the emperor being beaten and dies trying to rescue him. It is seeing the guardsmen’s death that convinces the emperor to kill Horus. But. What if the guardsman was Loken and his death convinced not the emperor but his old friend Abbadon to kill him with the stone blade that the perpetuals have.
    It would make sense that the “unknown” soldier would be a grey knight being all super secret. And Abbadon has been alluding to for sometime how he despises chaos and what his chapter has become and his last words were that he was heading back to the vengeful spirit to save Horus

    • @elliotyourarobot
      @elliotyourarobot Рік тому

      No what's wrong with the Emperor trying to be saved by the very beings that he loves, that this unknown human was able to touch and humble this God. That despite him being all powerful, this small being was now the one protecting him and giving back a small bit of that love to him personally.

  • @dxjjw
    @dxjjw 8 днів тому +1

    Honestly got completely lost with all the Eldar stuff but a really good summary overall

  • @bbiaso
    @bbiaso Рік тому

    Great video, thanks! I was just wondering what were the latest books in the timeline

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 Рік тому +1

    I have become engrossed in 40k lore ever since Astartes. Love learning new shit about it.

  • @sagichnicht6290
    @sagichnicht6290 Рік тому +1

    imagine a Series about this.

  • @rodmaia2099
    @rodmaia2099 Рік тому +1

    This was perfect! …and a timeline? Yes please! I read a bunch of Horus Heresy books but when it comes to 40k millennium I’m completely clueless as to how we got here. Please, more of these!
    It would be great to do a character driven overview too… Shadowsun pls 😬

    • @djangofett4879
      @djangofett4879 Рік тому +1

      part of that has to do with the 40K narrative is more scattered. it has been treated more as a setting in which various stories can play out. whereas 30k has a more clear-cut overarching narrative.
      they are starting to piece it together more with the 40K stuff but it's still very scattered.

    • @AAhmou
      @AAhmou Рік тому +1

      30k is kinda easy to figure it out. While a lot of stuff did happen, it was in a relatively short timeframe.