I am so glad that you, as a fellow TSD students, fully acknowledge this master. He is not given the press he deserves. I am 62 and still do some TSD practice and mostly Hyungs. I have subscribed to your channel and look forward to any more content. Peace.
In the mid eighties I was living in Korea and studying Tang Soo do under Master Yi Hong In. One day I was in a restaurant and was having a conversation with an older Korean man. The conversation turned to martial arts and the man told me he knew Tae Kwon Do. When I said I studied Tang Soo Do, he said, “ahhhhk, Tang Soo Do not Korean martial art!” At the time I didn’t understand his comment.😂
@@VikingMale I do shotokan and tang soo do forms are almost identical to that of shotokan. Certainly the one featured in the video. In shotokan it is called heian nidan.
@@VikingMale which is so true . in the old days the katas were the same. Chun Do Kwan under Alex Simkins still practices them. and I still have some of the old TKD books that show them as well. even S. Henry Cho says TKD came from Karate.
What Korean practitioner studied under Funakoshi, in the late 1930's/early 40's, likely longer than any other (Korean), and likely ranked higher than any other (Korean), and upon his return to Korea started teaching under the banner of Tang Soo Do, and its said to have started the first dojang recognized and approved to operate by the Korean government(Japanese occupational authorities) of the time?
I like how at 1:30 it says "embodying balance" and right then the guy has to hop to keep his balance after doing the right side kick. If you have to hop your center of gravity is too high.
Thank you for pointing that out! It’s a great reminder of the principle of constant and never-ending improvement. I chose to leave that moment in to highlight how Master Chatham-Tombs was able to recover his balance-a testament to his skill and adaptability.
I am not convinced for it to be of much benefit in a real fight with anyone. Going by the sequences shown above. many of them just block a single strike, then turn away. As if expecting the opponent to give up and follow up with another strike. 1.55 for example.
@@utsda Seeing is believing. Why practice, if not for real events, wasting muscle memory and reactions. Blocking a strike and countering with an immobilizing strike of your own simultaneously. Would be a better form of practice. Starting simply then building a repertoire to different strikes. Then more complex multiple strikes in different combinations. Then adding strikes from different directions. As is the case in some other martial arts. Which is the whole intention of practice. Fine tuning with freestyle light contact as your skill level builds. When faced in reality. (pray never have to). You do don't think, just react accordingly.
@@RasikRajguru to some degree you are preaching to the choir. Most serious karate/tangsoodo practitioners have researched historical, origins, practices and application via China, Okinawa and Japan as well as other countries that may have frequented Okinawa. Criticizing the Martial Arts practitioners of present today is like criticizing current day Egyptians because they don’t know how the pyramids were built, or what the their true purpose was.
@@terrydawson2239 Correction not all just yours from what I have seen in this video. Most martials open with a block and counter. Or multiple blocks and counter. In the above video it is demonstrated as not the case. I am making an observation and commented it. Suggesting an improvement, which some other styles already follow. Not just karate and tang soo do. This is what Bruce Lee's philosophy was. Learn from everyone. Accept what works and reject what doesn't. Applying that to my observation in the video. Which you seem to miss the point on. As for preaching to choir. It is just you.
@@RasikRajguru not sure if you've ever done a martial art that practices forms/kata but based on your comment I would assume not. No one is claiming that they will make you a good fighter. It's just a means of practicing your techniques and drilling in movement patterns, similar to why someone would practice shadow boxing. It can also sometimes be like a moving meditation. There are other benefits to practicing forms.
I am so glad that you, as a fellow TSD students, fully acknowledge this master. He is not given the press he deserves.
I am 62 and still do some TSD practice and mostly Hyungs.
I have subscribed to your channel and look forward to any more content.
Peace.
Thank you so much. More to come in the series! Thanks for subscribing.
In the mid eighties I was living in Korea and studying Tang Soo do under Master Yi Hong In. One day I was in a restaurant and was having a conversation with an older Korean man. The conversation turned to martial arts and the man told me he knew Tae Kwon Do. When I said I studied Tang Soo Do, he said, “ahhhhk, Tang Soo Do not Korean martial art!” At the time I didn’t understand his comment.😂
Which is funny as Tae Kwon Do is the child of Shotokan. Hap Ki Do is the Child of Shotokan and Dato Ryu Aiki Jujitsu.
@@VikingMale
I do shotokan and tang soo do forms are almost identical to that of shotokan.
Certainly the one featured in the video. In shotokan it is called heian nidan.
@@VikingMale which is so true . in the old days the katas were the same. Chun Do Kwan under Alex Simkins still practices them. and I still have some of the old TKD books that show them as well. even S. Henry Cho says TKD came from Karate.
You missed where the founder acquired his original skill! Tang Soo Do = The way of the China Hand!
Tang Soo Do
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Shotokan Karate
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Shorei Ryu Shorin Ryu
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Shuri-Te
Pinan/Heian/Pyong Ahn (Peace)
Great video!
What Korean practitioner studied under Funakoshi, in the late 1930's/early 40's, likely longer than any other (Korean), and likely ranked higher than any other (Korean), and upon his return to Korea started teaching under the banner of Tang Soo Do, and its said to have started the first dojang recognized and approved to operate by the Korean government(Japanese occupational authorities) of the time?
Won Kuk Lee was the most prominent. Look for a video acknowledging this after our next one on Gichin Funakoshi.
I like how at 1:30 it says "embodying balance" and right then the guy has to hop to keep his balance after doing the right side kick. If you have to hop your center of gravity is too high.
Thank you for pointing that out! It’s a great reminder of the principle of constant and never-ending improvement. I chose to leave that moment in to highlight how Master Chatham-Tombs was able to recover his balance-a testament to his skill and adaptability.
I am not convinced for it to be of much benefit in a real fight with anyone. Going by the sequences shown above. many of them just block a single strike, then turn away. As if expecting the opponent to give up and follow up with another strike. 1.55 for example.
I can respect your point of view, but all is not what it seems in the form practice to the casual observer.
@@utsda Seeing is believing. Why practice, if not for real events, wasting muscle memory and reactions.
Blocking a strike and countering with an immobilizing strike of your own simultaneously. Would be a better form of practice.
Starting simply then building a repertoire to different strikes.
Then more complex multiple strikes in different combinations.
Then adding strikes from different directions.
As is the case in some other martial arts.
Which is the whole intention of practice.
Fine tuning with freestyle light contact as your skill level builds.
When faced in reality. (pray never have to). You do don't think, just react accordingly.
@@RasikRajguru to some degree you are preaching to the choir. Most serious karate/tangsoodo practitioners have researched historical, origins, practices and application via China, Okinawa and Japan as well as other countries that may have frequented Okinawa. Criticizing the Martial Arts practitioners of present today is like criticizing current day Egyptians because they don’t know how the pyramids were built, or what the their true purpose was.
@@terrydawson2239 Correction not all just yours from what I have seen in this video.
Most martials open with a block and counter. Or multiple blocks and counter.
In the above video it is demonstrated as not the case. I am making an observation and commented it.
Suggesting an improvement, which some other styles already follow. Not just karate and tang soo do.
This is what Bruce Lee's philosophy was. Learn from everyone. Accept what works and reject what doesn't.
Applying that to my observation in the video.
Which you seem to miss the point on.
As for preaching to choir. It is just you.
@@RasikRajguru not sure if you've ever done a martial art that practices forms/kata but based on your comment I would assume not. No one is claiming that they will make you a good fighter. It's just a means of practicing your techniques and drilling in movement patterns, similar to why someone would practice shadow boxing. It can also sometimes be like a moving meditation. There are other benefits to practicing forms.