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  • @Whiteseastudio
    @Whiteseastudio  2 місяці тому +288

    Small update:
    I’ve told the company I’m talking about in this video several times that I could not sign this contract because it threatened my independence. The company kept insisting that they needed a signature on this contract because they needed to “justify sending physical products from their factory to the end recipient”, and they’ve also mentioned that the contract was “for legal purposes only in the accounting department to properly divide the sent products”.
    After some back and forth they were finally able to offer a new, way better contract. However, now that I know of these rules from this particular company, I cannot in good faith make any content about their products, because I don’t want to collaborate with a company that creates the ability to manipulate content, even if it’s not my content. So, I’ve turned down this opportunity and I’m not going to make any content about this particular companies products on my channel.

    • @DrKaoliN
      @DrKaoliN 2 місяці тому +31

      When a company sais "for legal purposes only" - I see that as a huge red flag. Legal terms are meant to reflect what happens in real life. Otherwise the legal terms are breached.
      Honest reviews is the reason we're following your channel - at least that's what I'm here for! 🙂

    • @AMPProf
      @AMPProf Місяць тому

      Uhh

    • @OzricTentaclesRule
      @OzricTentaclesRule Місяць тому +7

      All they need is a packing slip and a signature that you received it (they are being vague with the truth here)... famous last words of anyone who signed a contract...but they said it was not really that important or a big deal and would never do what the contract says they would do... after its been done...
      if it was not a big deal then it wouldn't be necessary

    • @SeemoreDunkan
      @SeemoreDunkan Місяць тому +12

      We NEED honesty like this. Thanks!

    • @knotdone5292
      @knotdone5292 Місяць тому +13

      Unison must've reached out

  • @Podcastage
    @Podcastage Місяць тому +43

    Good on you for sharing this stuff and walking away from that crappy contract. Any company that asks a reviewer to sign an endorser contract blurs the line way too much. Independence is essential. Keep up the great work.

  • @Wizardofvoz2
    @Wizardofvoz2 Місяць тому +49

    Ok. I have been recording/mixing and mastering since 1976. At times, on a very high level. I have been following you for a few years. I found you in your heavy “Snake Oil” days. I know you have grown and moved on from that era, but I want you to know that it was then that I learned to TRUST you. I promise you that I am not alone there. Most of your followers probably started there. As an experienced pro, I found your reviews to be honest and absolutely dead on! So….regarding this video; you absolutely don’t need to convince any of your core base that you are independent in your reviews. Maybe for some newer subscribers, nut not for the rest of us. I follow and interact with many youber music/recording/mastering channels and, given my almost 50,years of experience, I call BULLSHIT when I see it. You are a welcome exception. Please don’t abandon your independence, your honesty, it the formula that brought us to you to start with

    • @5amJones69
      @5amJones69 Місяць тому +2

      +1 for this. Well said!
      I take this video as a reminder to take a good whiff when watching other audio youtubers to detect any scent of bullshit.
      It's clear as day when you watch mutliple videos on the same product and you start hearing the same thing but yeah. I definitely trust White Sea to be of an un-altered opinion.
      Also Dan Worrall is a youtuber I trust thoroughly.

    • @nikolasb8313
      @nikolasb8313 Місяць тому +1

      Agreed. Not for the OG subs. This is a legendary level of authenticity and transparency from a UA-camr. Always been that way

    • @KyuminShimMusic
      @KyuminShimMusic Місяць тому +1

      Agreed as well. I enjoy watching videos from this channel because I also believe what he says on those videos.

  • @mr-iz8cx
    @mr-iz8cx Місяць тому +30

    Hearing corruption exposed is like a good revenge film for me. Love it

  • @KazrogPlugins
    @KazrogPlugins Місяць тому +17

    Wow, this is wild. That is the kind of contract that NO ONE should sign.
    Thank you for staying independent - it's absolutely essential for pro audio to always have strong, independent voices. We've been happy every time you've checked out our products , and value your constructive criticism, as it helps us make better products!

    • @screendrem
      @screendrem Місяць тому +1

      Kazrog keeps killing it! On top right now next to Oeksound.

  • @florisbackx1744
    @florisbackx1744 2 місяці тому +29

    Love the honesty and transparency, it's greatly appreciated as is your content!

  • @Roberto-tn1vr
    @Roberto-tn1vr Місяць тому +66

    This is Antelope Audio, I have seen these contracts more than once, . If you still trust that company for some reason and have missed all the terrible practices, then this video is your wake up call.

    • @CreativeMindsAudio
      @CreativeMindsAudio Місяць тому +1

      Not sure if it is them, but i get super sketched out by them for so many reasons! They seem to make decent products, but they’re not insanely better than other companies i that have more stable products and treat people better.

    • @Animetrix-WAV
      @Animetrix-WAV Місяць тому +2

      the name fits perfectly into the black box. Sometimes u can see parts of the p. Putting this in photoshop and matching the font size should make that clear.

    • @angelorasmijn7306
      @angelorasmijn7306 Місяць тому

      ⁠@@CreativeMindsAudio somehow me too. Something fishy about them.

    • @CLaw-tb5gg
      @CLaw-tb5gg Місяць тому

      Thank you. I shall be sure to never buy any of their products now.

    • @ReeWebster
      @ReeWebster Місяць тому

      @@Animetrix-WAV first thing I noticed too

  • @jamesjames77777
    @jamesjames77777 2 місяці тому +15

    Mate, you are a wonderful human being. I spend my life trying to educate upcoming people in the industry, so they don’t fall foul of the things that I did. These things that you’re selflessly highlighting are so important in terms of real education and also understanding the relevance of information within a sensationalist environment. Huge respect to you brother - this is truly helping people x

  • @kalidesu
    @kalidesu Місяць тому +6

    Saying NO to people or just walking away from a deal, is always the best card in your deck when you are uncomfortable with an agreement.

  • @maxperson590
    @maxperson590 Місяць тому +8

    Thx man, this is the only way the whole utube theater makes sense

  • @yanperchuk1
    @yanperchuk1 Місяць тому +10

    Thank you for exposing the dirty side of marketing brainwashing! Honesty is the best policy, and we are thankful for your channel for sticking to its principles!

  • @ScottMcFadyen
    @ScottMcFadyen Місяць тому +10

    That contract sounds like absolute hot garbage. Thank you for shining some light on the grimy behind the scenes of the audio equipment business.

  • @MrDees_music
    @MrDees_music Місяць тому +13

    This is gold ,
    I have been saying this on my channel for the longest.
    The whole Idea for YT reviews are user opinion based not cooperation sponsored in this case they are not even sponsoring

  • @akagerhard
    @akagerhard Місяць тому +2

    Awesome video! I love that you shared one of those contracts. Of course I envisioned these contracts to be something like that, but some things I didn't expect and it's always better to know than to think to know.

  • @TheRecordist
    @TheRecordist Місяць тому

    Wow. That's balls. I've only had one company try to get me to sign something similar, but I refused entirely -- and ultimately they still sent me products. It's great to see your integrity stays intact. Well done!

  • @MusicforLions
    @MusicforLions Місяць тому +1

    Really respect this video. Thank you for posting. Stay strong!

  • @MedicineManStudios-lf8ey
    @MedicineManStudios-lf8ey 2 місяці тому +4

    Thanks for this info. And much appreciate your honesty.

  • @riasure
    @riasure Місяць тому

    Integrity is everything🙌🏾 and I have a lot of respect for you , for sticking by your principles and for also shining a light amidst all the darkness. Thank you👍🏾

  • @Tony-G
    @Tony-G Місяць тому +1

    You are the only "UA-camr" that I follow for everything and anything to do with sound production, product reviews while at the same time, keeping abreast to all things new. Keep up the good work......your Canadian community member.

  • @DominicHalpin
    @DominicHalpin Місяць тому

    Appreciate your openness and honesty, keep up the amazing work

  • @jrikkerink
    @jrikkerink Місяць тому

    Transparency is what we need! Thank You for this!

  • @DirkDarmstaedter_music
    @DirkDarmstaedter_music Місяць тому

    Right on! I‘m so with you on this. Thanks for your honesty and strength! D

  • @thesearethesuns
    @thesearethesuns 10 днів тому

    Keep doing what you do! We respect your integrity and your mission to deliver transparency in your work. Thanks! 😎

  • @jhorconguero5808
    @jhorconguero5808 2 місяці тому +3

    It’s why we like your work 👍
    Thanks for your integrity, we need more professional thinking like you🤘🤘🤘

  • @audiodude
    @audiodude Місяць тому

    Thank you for sharing this information with us. I appreciate the fact that you are very concerned with the honesty and integrity of your videos. Keep pushing and again thank you

  • @pajzd
    @pajzd Місяць тому +8

    ' never sign anything ! ' steve albini

  • @johnplainsong9769
    @johnplainsong9769 Місяць тому +1

    WOW! This is very revealing, thank you for sharing. We, as consumers, should carefully think about which influencers are really just puppets of corporate puppet-masters.

  • @SvexTheDragon
    @SvexTheDragon Місяць тому +6

    I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those videos where the UA-camr goes "Video sponsored by company that sent me this product but everything I say are all my own opinions" are actually in fact, not their opinions and instead just company-approved garbage.

  • @devoicevangogh
    @devoicevangogh Місяць тому

    Thanks for revealing these ‘methodes’. Very much appreciated!

  • @michaellarsen180
    @michaellarsen180 Місяць тому

    This is a GREAT video Wytse!
    Thank you for taking the time to explain what many don't realize i going on behind the scenes.

  • @allanpage
    @allanpage Місяць тому

    you are the most honest youtuber that I watch. I appreciate that and when I want buy something it willl be through your links. ThNK YOU for what you do.

  • @tonye9045
    @tonye9045 Місяць тому

    I really appreciate your integrity and transparency Wytse, it’s very refreshing in a sea of ‘'influencers’ repeating the companies marketing spiel every time a new product gets launched. I trust your videos and will continue too. Thank you.

  • @AzaleaMusic
    @AzaleaMusic Місяць тому

    Thanks for your openness and honesty about this subject. As the former Technology Editor for a prominent music magazine for 7 years, I can definitely relate to this topic! During my tenure, I made a point of avoiding working with companies who followed these kinds of practices. I'm glad I did, as it enabled both myself and the magazine to maintain our integrity in the industry, and among our readers. Keep up the good work! 👍

  • @89hdjdua
    @89hdjdua Місяць тому

    Thank you for the transparency and kudos for your integrity at distancing yourself from a company with such contracts 👏

  • @defenderstargate1447
    @defenderstargate1447 Місяць тому

    Thanks for this insightful look behind the scenes.

  • @ramspencer5492
    @ramspencer5492 Місяць тому +2

    Good content. Thank you ... Yeah there's definitely some crazy unethical marketing pushes for equipment on UA-cam.... Usually involving free merchandise.

  • @chrisuzdavinis4364
    @chrisuzdavinis4364 Місяць тому

    It's great to see someone on UA-cam with this kind of *integrity*. Thank you!

  • @samuelbreuer
    @samuelbreuer Місяць тому +1

    thank you for all you do!!

  • @kingpossie
    @kingpossie Місяць тому

    Thanks for elucidating- stay healthy and strong, best wishes ❤❤❤

  • @johnwright5126
    @johnwright5126 Місяць тому

    Man we need more of this from every UA-camr. Imagine how much better this place would be. KUDOS!!

  • @alessandrofavero8356
    @alessandrofavero8356 Місяць тому +26

    You’re our hero. Your entire community is backing you up! Thank you for being the way you are, both professionally and as a human being roaming on Planet Earth.
    I don’t know if you realise but when you are not promoting a plugin, you are promoting honesty and ethics as a way of living. And that’s incredibly important.

  • @synapticschism
    @synapticschism Місяць тому

    Respect! You are putting yourself in a position where you may lose money in the short term because your values speak higher. We need more of this everywhere.

  • @VatoGonzalezOfficial
    @VatoGonzalezOfficial Місяць тому

    Thanks for the full on honesty here. This is a rare thing online.

  • @guitboxgeek
    @guitboxgeek Місяць тому

    I really appreciate your opinion on this and especially sharing some of the contract verbiage. It would be excellent if other audio channels would do something similar.

  • @louismaiden8360
    @louismaiden8360 Місяць тому +1

    I continue so watch your channel because of the objective reviews and analysis. Thanks a ton for staying true to the audience with videos like these

  • @mohammadsadeghfathi
    @mohammadsadeghfathi Місяць тому

    I follow your videos since 3 years ago, you are my imaginary friend 😂😍 just keep it up, we know and trust you in audio industry. You and this channel is honest and special that’s why I’m here everytime you publish a video

  • @DanielHeikalo
    @DanielHeikalo Місяць тому

    Very important video! I'll share it! Thank you.

  • @MakePopMusic
    @MakePopMusic Місяць тому

    Such a good video on this topic. I think people have VERY skewed views on what "sponsorships", "endorsements", "NFRs", etc is. Very stoked to see people like you and Matt Weiss being transparent about the back end dealings of making content for / in collaboration with companies. I can't even tell you how many sponsorships, free items, endorsement deals, etc because I don't love the company, I don't feel comfortable recommending it, I don't like how forceful they are, how specific they want the content around it, etc.

  • @FASTFASTmusic
    @FASTFASTmusic Місяць тому

    Thank you for your transparency

  • @stayylleh
    @stayylleh Місяць тому

    you are doing it just right my man! keep it up

  • @schmuckeprinz
    @schmuckeprinz Місяць тому

    Stay Real Man! Thank you for staying strong! 🙏

  • @MACEASY2
    @MACEASY2 Місяць тому

    Well said, and thanks for making people aware of the behind the scenes manipulating that goes on. There are a lot of chancers on UA-cam whose aim is to try to monetise their videos while pretending to be offering advice and opinions. A lot of what passes as 'reviews' are just promotional claptrap often done by people who have little idea what they are talking about. Thank goodness for the few, like yourself, that we can trust to have an honest opinion.
    A well known website has been doing this for years, offering reviews and tutorials, while obscuring that they are promotional paid-for articles, which I find very misleading and dishonest, so i am glad if the subject is brought up to make people realise what they are reading/watching and why.

  • @thestupendouschumley
    @thestupendouschumley Місяць тому +3

    'I talked to my therapist about this..." 😂 Yes, it is disturbing.

  • @aesilveira
    @aesilveira Місяць тому

    In addition to your knowledge, your attitude and the frankness of your opinions are the reasons why I watch your videos. Congratulations on your work! I wish you all the best!

  • @onlyoneneuron
    @onlyoneneuron Місяць тому

    Thank you, thank you very much. I am very glad that someone with such a strong and powerful voice like yours is letting the software companies know that we are fed up with them sticking their fingers up our asses with their software garbage.

  • @OzricTentaclesRule
    @OzricTentaclesRule Місяць тому +1

    Its very simple... once you sign that you are being used for your (previously thought to be) or percieved authenticity , however ironically when these are signed it is no longer authentic it is deceptive... this is why we call it "shilling" or "being a sellout" ... in my world lying is lying even if you omit the truth... thanks for sharing, I hope the first contract you signed does not open you up to legal issues for mentioning the second contract...

  • @0rican
    @0rican Місяць тому +1

    All the power to you. You got my respect. Thank You

  • @kelvinfunkner
    @kelvinfunkner Місяць тому

    I appreciate this video and the transparency. You'll never regret sticking to your standard.

  • @richeymcc
    @richeymcc Місяць тому

    Appreciate your honesty and independence! 💪🏻👏🏻

  • @iso_brown
    @iso_brown Місяць тому

    I bought a few products after some of your video and wasn't disappointed !👍

  • @jlindborg1105
    @jlindborg1105 Місяць тому +1

    This gives you a strong character in my book.
    Good on you and much better value for your watchers.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @markgriffiths5122
    @markgriffiths5122 Місяць тому

    Thanks for this, I was aware of one company doing this kind of thing and have been called out for it by several UA-camrs & media but I thought they were the exception. Knowing that this is becoming a thing is worrying as I do use UA-cam as one of the main deciding factors.

  • @anonymousbrowser4448
    @anonymousbrowser4448 Місяць тому

    Thank you Wytse. UA-camrs that compromise their integrity to their followers lose credibility once the followers try the product and are disappointed

  • @sekuroz
    @sekuroz Місяць тому

    Glad to see you stood your ground 👏

  • @robgreenlandMusic
    @robgreenlandMusic Місяць тому +1

    Real Talk!! Again!!! ❤ I do watch at least one channel which is ALL about sponsorship and endorsed content but I allow it because it's so blatant, he's doing his thing and it works for him, it's not very mature content. Never stop thinking about music and politics!!! I'll add my voice of appreciation for speaking up. 🙏

  • @DamnnnDarius
    @DamnnnDarius Місяць тому

    I respect your honesty bro bro, It makes a difference

  • @Snhojbar
    @Snhojbar Місяць тому

    I've watched a bunch of your videos and liked them a lot. This video really cemented my opinion of you and your channel. I am now a subscriber. Thank you. Keep doing what you are doing!

  • @CreativeMindsAudio
    @CreativeMindsAudio Місяць тому

    Appreciate your transparency! Glad this is becoming more of a trend in the audio youtube world! I saw Fluff go over this a bit in a recent video. It’s important! I’ve seen some really sketchy behavior from companies.

  • @thanoseolios8281
    @thanoseolios8281 Місяць тому

    Thanks for this video! I really dig you man!...

  • @RogerWessel
    @RogerWessel Місяць тому

    Thank you 🙏 This kind of integrity is why I always listen to your opinions. Even if I don’t always agree with everything every time, your channel brings a lot of value to the table. Rock on 🤘

  • @RufusJacson
    @RufusJacson Місяць тому +1

    Everything you've said is why I'm subscribed to your channel. Keep going, you're doing everything right.

  • @enrifretless
    @enrifretless Місяць тому

    As always, Thanks for your honesty, keep up doing things your way, everyone here appreciate your opinion and comments 🤓👍🏻

  • @SergeDrummer
    @SergeDrummer Місяць тому

    I love the transparency. This is why I trust your opinion on products 1000%.

  • @Projektor_music
    @Projektor_music Місяць тому

    This stuff is important for people to know, maybe even more important than any average audio related tutorial. There are comapnies behind the products & company gonna gompany... Personally I've never had this kind of contract on my desk but anyone who values their integrity will deny these kinds contracts. Glad to see so much transparency from you!

  • @CedricPytelRagtimeStudioUk
    @CedricPytelRagtimeStudioUk Місяць тому

    Thank you for this. We can see that you are an honest reviewer

  • @enfitah
    @enfitah Місяць тому

    Honest reviews is the reason we're following your channel !

  • @daveverwer
    @daveverwer Місяць тому

    I wish all UA-cam creators felt like you do ❤

  • @plasticcreations7836
    @plasticcreations7836 Місяць тому

    I respect you for this. Its the main reason why I subscribed.

  • @jemwand2530
    @jemwand2530 Місяць тому

    Hi Wytse, I think that, to you, it is very important that your integrity is beyond question. I would like to reassure you that, from what I see on YT, from other channels, is that you are very well respected. I can't say that I have ever specifically bought a product which you have been positive about but, I can assure you that I have never bought a product that you had a negative reaction to.
    Your transparency and integrity are the qualities which made me subscribe to your channel.

  • @TheEuroLegionsPodcast
    @TheEuroLegionsPodcast Місяць тому

    Absolutely awesome video. Much respect!

  • @endorphine54678
    @endorphine54678 Місяць тому

    i really dont comment a lot on youtube but: thank you for doing it YOUR way and keeping it real! Appreciate that lots!

  • @MrMurkosullivan
    @MrMurkosullivan Місяць тому +2

    When you consider how much actors get paid for their likeness in ads.. (legally/under equity agreements) it is mind boggling that they are trying to just use youtubers to do it for free instead.

  • @bLiNdEDM
    @bLiNdEDM Місяць тому

    This is the exact reason I love your videos and subscribe! It's because you speak the truth and it's not influenced by money or gear. Excellent.

  • @snubdawg1386
    @snubdawg1386 Місяць тому +2

    man of integrity

  • @ric8248
    @ric8248 Місяць тому

    I really appreciate your transparency and commitment to your viewers here! The worst part in that contract in my opinion was that they wanted to use your LIKENESS. l mean, what the hell? not only they would be able to edit your content at will but they could even AI your face saying whatever they pleased without asking you, paying you, or even letting you know about it.

  • @TonyPelosi-music
    @TonyPelosi-music Місяць тому

    I feel grateful for watching your videos - i guess - from almost your very beginning. Just keep pushing

  • @gregoryabat3948
    @gregoryabat3948 Місяць тому

    This is why I have very rarely made a buying decision based on anyone’s opinion. I have twice on inexpensive plugins that you spoke well of that I found interesting. I was not disappointed. Keep doing your thing.

  • @kevinellis4729
    @kevinellis4729 Місяць тому

    Very interesting. This reminds me of another a thought I've had for quite a while. I hear a lot of UA-cam 'reviewers'' say their opinions are entirely their own and unbiased as they are 'reviewing' a lot of VERY expensive gear they are being sent by companies to 'test'. I feel like there's already a problem here. I do NOT believe that we are going to get an honest opinion from 99% of these people, because if they say too many negative things (regardless of the contracts involved), those expensive pieces of gear are going to stop showing up for them to make revenue with on UA-cam, and they certainly cannot afford to purchase them all independently. One of the things that I appreciate about Wytse's channel, and why I trust his opinions, is that he tends to stay away from that kind of expensive hardware so he's not entirely reliant on these companies providing products to create content with. I'd like to hear opinions on this if anyone is interested in responding.

  • @timrideout
    @timrideout Місяць тому

    Big respect to you, Wytse - an authentic and integral human being, not motivated by fear.

  • @Nethanieal
    @Nethanieal Місяць тому +2

    When serious audio technicians and producers actually make something unique, I am excited to try it. This channel is the reason I deleted 99% of my plugins. I am thankful for the work you do on this channel.

  • @enzoclark
    @enzoclark Місяць тому

    Very interesting. You're honest and clever, go on!

  • @artemi-music
    @artemi-music Місяць тому

    Thanks for yout insights!👍

  • @JoshWiniberg
    @JoshWiniberg Місяць тому +1

    You and Dan are pretty much the only reviewers I trust here. This just confirms that it isn't misplaced. Thanks for giving honest reviews and staying independent.

  • @mofateam1
    @mofateam1 Місяць тому

    That is one reason why I follow this channel for years now. I trust you.

  • @asymmetrymedia9838
    @asymmetrymedia9838 Місяць тому +4

    Btw did you know a snippet of you is used in the Black Salt Audio adds about their noise gate? I see them all the time on Facebook.
    Maybe you were aware and don't mind. But i thought i'd mention it in case you don't

    • @Whiteseastudio
      @Whiteseastudio  Місяць тому +2

      Yes! I’m aware and I did give permission

  • @jackharjani
    @jackharjani Місяць тому

    This is great. Brings me more confidence in your reviews, will definitely help me make better purchase decisions in the future :)

  • @p0dlyryszard
    @p0dlyryszard Місяць тому

    Keep pushing!

  • @dominiccastillo9677
    @dominiccastillo9677 Місяць тому

    Thank you!

  • @dontucker
    @dontucker Місяць тому +6

    Thank you so much for your intergrity. So much in our world today is fake - especially anything to do with sales. Prime example is a medical advertisement showing a doctor with his/her stethoscope wrapped around the neck. I still speak with people who believe that this is not an actor, and the ad has not been scripted and produced to the n'th degree. Soon enough, we'll all be living in a fake world once AI takes hold. Again, keep up the excellent work. I've learned so much from you.

  • @mattskalicky
    @mattskalicky Місяць тому

    And this is why i follow you. I don't always like or agree with your opinions but i respect your integrity and that's the most important thing for me