This Ancient Paper Can Last 1000 Years. So Why Is It Disappearing? | So Expensive | Insider Business
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- Hanji is traditional Korean paper made by hand, one sheet at a time. Artisans turn the weblike fibers of paper-mulberry trees into paper that can last for thousands of years. The most expensive Hanji costs over $22 per sheet. But despite Hanji's quality, demand is in decline. And profits are dwindling for the few remaining workshops.
0:00 Intro
0:40 Cleaning mulberry fibers
1:43 Pulverizing fibers into pulp
2:08 Paper sheet forming
4:43 Drying sheets of Hanji
6:00 Declining demand
Editor’s Note: Kim Serin also contributed to this story as a field producer and translator.
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This Ancient Paper Can Last 1,000 Years So Why Is It Disappearing? | So Expensive | Insider Business
The speaker is so great! Not only she does a great English pronunciation but also she nails the foreign language words. Hope you continue to hire her!
Greetings from a US paper conservatory! So there's lots of places around the world that make long lasting (archival) paper! The thing with the paper we use everyday is it's made from waaaaaay thicker trees. This means it's really dense and it needs to be processed with more chemicals. This in turn means the paper will yellow with time. The paper this guy makes is probably made with mulberry (also known as kozo) harvested after it's first year when it's still softer and easier to process. I greatly encourage people to find places that sell fine paper as it's fantastic for art creation. Also paper arts are lit.
When I saw him put the kozo in the beater, my soul left my body then it was explained more and it came back.
I saw a blog post several years ago where a woman had a custom built beater designed specifically to process mulberry fibers. It was fascinating. Instead of the plate with spikes and indentations, it had two rows of staggered dull blades shaped like scythes. These would separate the fibers without cutting them. She mentioned it was a very slow process but was something she wanted to develop.
You really like those long fibers! I can't imagine how difficult I would be to get them all lined up without cutting them.
"library-bound" ANSI standards, yes?
Actually trees used for paper making have gotten much much smaller. It’s been a long time since pulp logs needed to be cut to size to fit in a pulp mill unlike the 1930’s…
tbh $22 per sheet that large for mulberry paper is still a good deal. i used to use it for printmaking and it's my favorite type of paper to use.
i was thinking that too, i work with all sorts of paper and for the best quality of hanji that's quite modest. we just saw all of the work that goes into it!
Can you use charcoal to make photorealistic drawing on this paper?
@@robertwilson2007wtf kind of question is that?
@@theanarchonazbolinquisition Can you understand the question now?
@@robertwilson2007 no but like: I _understand the question._ I am simply confused by it since, the paper/medium/toola used in the creative process don’t really matter as to whether or somebody could achieve a certain resault… somebody could if they wanted use a piece of grill-coal on a piece of warehouse cardbord and make a photorealistic painting with that.
HOWEVER: using nicer things will make the process easier and more enjoyable, and potentially last for longer, which are (some) of the reasons this paper is so good.
Paper is probably one of the most important inventions in human history. As we slowly become more and more digital, its understandable why the old methods are going away, but we can't let the knowledge of it disappear. Please document these things well enough while we can so if in the future someone wants to recreate something from the past there is enough information on knowing how to do so. It makes me sad to know that so much old knowledge just fades away to be forgotten. (like roman concrete among others)
yeah, being able to write down libraries worth of information (which paper accomplishes better than papyrus and parchment, or clay tablets, bark, wooden slats and such) was super important for building incresingly complex knowledge over generations.
A few years ago, "NOVA" had a series on the development of the written alphabet, the development of ink, the development of paper, and how the technologies spread through the known world. It was fascinating. If you have a Passport membership, maybe you can find it at the website. Or wait to see if these episodes eventually appear for free on UA-cam at their "NOVA" channel.
I hope that such delicate, traditional procedures to craft beautiful things like hanji never disappears. It really would be a shame if it did.
Why would it be a shame? It's just paper
@@emjay11279 You disappearing would actually be refreshing. 😀
@@emjay11279And your just a bag of meat. Don’t you think it still would be a shame ?
@@emjay11279 Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
A true shame
This video series is a true UA-cam highlight and I love watching every new episode. But it also saddens me every time a certain craft, exercised with dedication and a lifetime of knowledge, hits its probable decline at the hands of efficiency and modernisation.
People with this level of dedication and pride in their work are a treasure. We're losing those values quickly i pray we get them back.
It's up to us to keep it going. They need people to buy it in order for them to keep making it, especially new generations. People would typically prefer to buy 500 sheets for a couple bucks than $20 for 1.
Though, if certain industries were smart, they'd start using paper like this for archival purposes, considering how long it lasts.
I think this craft is set to continue at some small scale with no end in sight... although by that I mean handmade mulberry paper generally, not necessarily korean.
there certainly is potential for crafts to die out and to later beextremely difficultto recreate when there's noone left to teach how to do it. papermaking is not very complex though. historic examples include (to a degree but often exaggerated) damascus steel, arguably cremonese violin making (stradivari and such), and the blaschka glass sculptures. you could also go back in time much further and include megalithic construction techniques.
Put your money where your mouth is and start buying the niche products and they won't go away.
Capturing their stories is one of the ways of awaring people about these artisans and bringing them forefront.
I would request Business Insider to mention contact details of the artisans/craftsmen of all these wonderful crafts they are covering so that people watching them can buy it from them directly and the craft can survive longer.
I agree! I've watched so many of these and end up trying to Google them so I can buy their product to support them. It would be easier if they'd just give us a link or something to help. Lol
Disagree. Business Insider should remain neutral and be educational as it is. Because putting the contacts in the vid/post would mean "ENDORSING" it & while it is meaningful in the short term, its detrimental in the long run as businesses evolves over the time but UA-cam vids remain the same. (and that's a recipe for PR disaster)
Example : Its like watching a traditional handcraft video only to find that the owner has already upscale its business into a medium sized factory & is no longer handmade piece by piece.
Although it pains me to say this but "we can always google it by the side to know more about it" while these documentaries can serve the purpose of recording a history.
I mean just look at the food documentaries, plenty of instances where chefs' assistant from vid 10 years ago are now actually living their dream of owning their own restaurants with some even getting Michelin stars. And these wonderful moments shouldn't be ruined by outdated business contacts in the vid/post.
@@Rnckoendorsing in this isn't bad maybe it's upto people if they want to support or not
@@omegasensei382 Yeah, endorsing is not bad & there is nothing wrong with it.
But what do you think the team is gonna do if people come up to them saying they got scammed via the provided contacts in the vid? Especially if the vid is years old.
Also, the comment section would turn into market bickering like "the contacts provided is false/true/inaccurate/incomplete" , "there's better price with xx competitor, yy provider for which Z country".
Then if the team say "at your own risk", not only its a move with bad pr image, it also makes no difference than just not posting the contacts at all.
@@Rncko - Disagree with your disagreement. You expect these artisans to donate time and information, to cooperate with the filmmakers without any reward whatsoever? You do not understand capitalism.
Korean paper is expensive. The materials alone are of the best quality and could never easily falter over time. Shows just how much care it takes to be able to maintain the silky texture of it.
It’s honestly not THAT expensive compare to actual expensive material/resources that can’t even last that long to begin with
It's paper
@@MP-vc4nuthe point isn’t that it’s THAT expensive, it’s that when you’re dealing with individual sheets of paper, small price changes add up. A ream of paper is 500. That difference adds up when youre dealing in big quantities
Her muscle memory is so good, she's handling paper-thin stuff over something that can scald a person real fast without gloves.
Beautiful craftsmanship & dedication. I hope all these traditions in every country is protected for future generations🙏
That's the sign of a true master, making something incredibly difficult look effortless. Its beautiful.
I trust paper data over computer data. I hope it never disappears.
Exactly. Paper doesn't crash, or stop working when the power goes off.
@nomadiavan6560 - Data studying and collation is much easier on a computer, though. I think they are complimentary.
so fascinating! i absolutely love this!
brushing the paper looks so satisfying
Hanji is truly amazing!!
Just like Japanese Washi, both of them are made of Mulberry. I hope neither is ever lost, it would be such a loss to humanity. Losing these old techniques is such a fundamental loss to ourselves as a species.
I wonder where the Japanese got their paper technology from. Japanese will never admit it but we all know. 😂
@@JohnLee-db9ztChina.
@@JohnLee-db9zt they got the skills from China. But according to the archives, they discovered that adding hemp rags to the mulberry base makes finer paper.
Hanji is notably thicker than the Japanese Washi. They developed different techniques adapting to the materials locally available.
@@AlphineWolf What China? Prove it. China as we know today didn’t exist back then. Also do you know who first invented the moveable metal type that revolutionized communication for the masses? It wasn’t Gutenberg or China.
Oh my God I can write my songs on this special paper 📜. Great work 👏🏽👏🏽 👍🏽
Probably the only episode with a dying product. But i will still buy it to complete my "so expensive" collection.
This is a lovely series, its a celebration of craftsmanship from across the world.
In Nepal we have something called "नेपाली कागज" which loosely translates to "Nepali Paper". Your team could do some background research and could possibly be an episode for 'Still Standing.'
Loved every series, the narration, presentation is top notch.
Nah, they learned that from China. The paper skills originates from China. It eventually spread to the rest of the world despite China trying to keep the trade secrets a secret 😉
I once saw a documentary on a trove of Buddhist documents that were found in a cave in nepal and the paper was so strong and of such good quality that they could just brush them off as if it were dirty modern paper.
Perfect for origami, i use it all the time
Ah, it's the same technique that the Japanese use to make paper for shōji(sliding doors) I absolutely love seeing how soo many different techniques were transferred in the olden times in Asia, truly amazing artistry!
Yeah, it's the same thing as Japanese washi paper.
The technique originated in China and spread to Japan through Korea. So they're technically all very similar products.
@@magical11yeah it's called xuan paper in China.
@@magical11 which is why on the market, made in China ruled paper tends to have better paper quality 🤔 😀. I mean they have a reputation to protect
@@tm-dp9pq materials are different though, xuan paper is made with bamboo, not mulberry trees. The process is pretty much the same though.
The amount of focus this guy has to do this almost everyday for 40 years is insane
So wonderfull!!
As a paper lover, watching this video took me to another dimension. What a beautiful process and I hope it will never disappear. The end made me sad as I can imagine the struggle these artisans are going through. I recently entered a little shop full of handmade paper in Korea. My heart stopped🥰 and restarted again. I didn't want to leave the place looking around in wonder.
When I go to visit Korea, I hope to see this paper being made the traditional way, and to buy some for myself.
Paper originated from China. It’s best to learn from the country of invention than from a copycat nation. Japan, Korea and Vietnam are three Sinospheric nations. Paper, gunpowder, compass and printing (woodblock and movable type) are Four Great Chinese Inventions. Paper, paper folding art, paper money, toilet paper, paper utensils are all Chinese inventions, not “Japanese” or “Korean”. Japan and Korea need to start giving credits to the source of their copying instead of such kind of blatant cultural plagiarism. It’s either paper or Chinese paper, not “Japanese paper”, not “Korean paper”. Paper was invented by the Chinese inventor Cai Lun during the Chinese Han Dynasty, the first golden age of Chinese history. So paper is Chinese, not “Japanese” or “Korean”.
@@Hoo88846paper made in Japan is Japanese paper, Paper made in China is Chinese paper.
@@gregoryturk1275 Ok, then fried chicken made in China is Chinese fried chicken. Computers made in China are Chinese computers. Fries and hamburgers and Coca Cola made in China are Chinese fries, Chinese hamburgers and Chinese Coca Cola. Sushi made in China are Chinese sushi. Kimchi made in China is Chinese kimchi. In fact, Japanese, and Korean cultures are all indeed made in China. So don’t forget to call them Chinese Japan and Chinese Korea.
@@gregoryturk1275 So dont mind China for copying and misbranding now. Anything made in China is Chinese. Tesla is made in China so it’s Chinese Tesla. Made in China Apple iPhone are Chinese iPhone. In fact, since China is the factory of the world, so everything now can just be given the Chinese brand. Chinese KFC, Chinese Starbucks, Chinese McDonalds, Chinese pyramid, Chinese curry, Chinese cars, Chinese planes, Chinese televisions, Chinese chairs, Chinese tables, Chinese everything. Most accurately, Chinese Japan and Chinese Korea will help reclaim everything that is Chinese because indeed, Japanese and Korean cultures are truly DESIGNED and MADE IN CHINA. Chinese make everything so everything is Chinese. Don’t forget to put the label of Chinese on iPhones and Starbucks next time, because they are all in China and all made in China.
@@gregoryturk1275 most accurately, since Nara and Kyoto are copycat of Chinese Tang Dynasty capital Chang’an, then we also have Chinese Nara, Chinese Kyoto, Chinese cherry blossom, Chinese, Chinese tea, Chinese tea ceremony, Chinese rice, Chinese rice noodles, Chinese noodles, Chinese dumplings, Chinese soy sauce, Chinese bean curd, Chinese miso, Chinese hotpot, Chinese rice wine, Chinese paper folding art, Chinese lacquerware, Chinese silk, Chinese chopsticks…. All of these are the AUTHENTIC BRANDS. Your fake “Japanese” brands are inferior and can step aside. It’s Chinese paper, which is the AUTHENTIC, and “Japanese” and “Korean” papers are fake and counterfeit brands.
Thank you great video
한지 제조 공정을 외국에서도 취재해서 이렇게 올라오다니 신기하고 뿌듯하기도 하네요ㅎㅎ 전통에 대한 관심이 많이 줄어가는데, 그걸 생각나게끔 만들어주었습니다. 한지에 대한 관심도, 좋은 영상도 너무 감사합니다!
I appreciate your attention to hanji !
As you know, traditional things are not getting much interest in korea nowdays.
In this situation, video like this gives us the chance that thinks our tradition, so I love this😊
Thanks to the effort that you made!
What an amazing technology 🎉❤ Korea
nice to see you drop the double
This raises my interest in creating art that lasts through using this wondrous paper
Suggestion: hanji can be used for wrapping gift soap with tape, thin gross grain ribbon (optional); laminating placemats in pink or violet; wrapping presents; making cards with folded white paper inserts, etc.
this was actually beautiful to watch
so in Viet Nam we also use the same techniqueto produce giấy dó
Good thing there is a kind of paper that helps restoring old documents
If this can be used, or at least adapted, for high-quality photo paper, that could be a huge market. I'm not sure if something like that is preexisting or not.
No, let's not ruin an art form by turning it into some giant corporate enterprise. ..
Amazing skills as per. Sheets may be so expensive. Hand made crafts are always expensive only.
I used to make stingray and shield kite using hanji and bamboo sticks when I was a kid. I really miss those days.
Was it cheap back then for children to buy it?
@@jessicag630 it was 40 years ago so… my memory is well…
this would be perfic for miniture makers as the thickness is a lot softer and the nutral ph.
Is the demand down primarily due to cost? If so, why not invest into ways to automate the process more? Quality may initial drop but long term the paper will thrive and potentially become even better quality. Maybe replace more commonly used types of paper.
Art conservators around the world use Kanji to repair rips and tears in the canvas and paper of artworks. It can be applied where one does not want linen thread to show. It is almost invisible, and can have paint re-touching applied over it.
A single sheet of Arches 400lbs Cold Pressed Watercolor paper measuring 22" x 30" costs $36.95USD.
What a process
Video came out a minute ago, wdym?
When he said "I think that hanji should never disappear". I felt it in my heart.
Such a shame that this man's product is sold only in korea :(
Hanoi always is such good quality
Hanji lasting for years is 😮
This job just looks fun
Incredible.
$22 is UNDERpriced. Amazing work.
I think by the time it reaches USA it will be much more expensive.
It is unfortunate they do not export. Hanji and Kozzo are extremely difficult to get. I would gladky pay 22 usd for a sheet of conservations Hanji
Good tradition
Imagine writing your family tree on this paper and hanging on your main hallway, each family member gets one, and whenever a new member arrives, their name gets added. WHOA~~~~
Not sure if you know already, but that use to be an actual thing in korea. It was a book made from those paper tho
I am surprised there is no demand for it. I think there is a worldwide move back to paper as people are keeping notebooks and journals. Often these notebooks have high quality paper like Tomoe river paper. I think if he had to start making notebooks onsite he could have a very good business from that.
Can you make paper bags?
I've seen many episode's from this series of "So Expensive" this particular episode such down to earth craftsmen 'Kang' tells all the truth we need to hear, artisans might enjoy making their craft but they still need to earn a living from that can't watch wall's and run a house.
Hanji is good QUALITY😮
Wait, how is he doing the multiple directions?
To increase demand they need to cut it down to reams of 8x11 sheets. Then yuppies could buy it for their printing and smuggly tell people about it
I hope people watching this video come up with more ways to use this paper.
I don't know if I like the paper quality more or pity the dedication of the guy to doing hard work instead of automating it for some reason.
does hanji last forever for real? is t waterproof or repel insects?
After doing some research, hanji is said to be more durable and tougher than the Chinese / Japanese counterparts. Trees from China / warmer climate has weaker fibers, while trees on Japan are grown on calcareous ground, which is reportedly less tough and doesn’t last as long.
I don’t think it is waterproof, since if it is, it’ll have hard time soaking up inks, and I have spilled water on hanji before. But it can take on some water and be still okay. If you get it dirty with writings or ink, you can wash it with water and dry it to use it again.
Also it can pass air easily, ventilating the area and adjusting the humidity. Which is why it has traditionally been used for covers of doors / windows etc. And since it’s tough, there are relics over a thousand years ago that are made from hanji. The oldest paper to be printed by wooden press in the world from the 8th century is one of them. They made bowls, plates and even armors from them, the containers for gunpowder, too. It’s also less likely to be discolored, due to its neutral acidity.
Also it’s said to be very good for origami. A must-have for hobbyists. But you need some glue cause it doesn’t like to be kept bent.
There might be some inaccuracies but that’s all I found out.
That was really detailed thanks!!
Nothing lasts forever, but some material will last a very long time if taken care of.
there's a huge market for it in genealogy, keeping records of your own family roots is very hard, even grave stones writing can't survive several dozen years if not cut very deeply (they do these days only light engraving on super polished stone with laser which can't survive a dusty winds). Archives going digital, but server disks to be reliable must be replaced every 4 years by industy standard, at the same time many paper documents which survived 50 or more years after scanning destroyed to free up storage, the ones without museum value, usually which directly associated to personal data and genealogy. People in genealogy today trying to race with time to save something what was left, personal records because of privacy laws if never requested by relatives or researchers are destroyed every year in archives worldwide by amount of several tonnes of paper.
In ancient arabian culture there was a very clever way to keep records of family in thier long names, which not only contain names of several roots by men line, but also geolocation, a city or place, higher classes additional data. The name there was like passport. But this tradition long time gone.
The Hanji paper industry is on a roll - literally.
There must be something in the mulberry fibres and hibiscus glue that kill pathogens. I think of all the trials and errors involved in developing this process. If you have ever made paper by hand you know what it's like.
It would be a shame if this craft would be gone. 22 USD for one of those large sheets is definitely not overpriced.
After about 6 minutes into watching this video, I then realized; what I had forgot why I was watching this video, why I was watching it... based on the video description, I thought I was watching a video on how paper cans could potentially last 1,000 years. To me, I was thinking of paper cans like the cardboard 'Baskin Robbin' tubs use for their ice cream... boy was I off.
Would there be a market for internal room dividers, such as in Japan?
It's used in the old or traditional houses in Korea already. but since most Koreans live in modern houses or apartments, it's no longer used that much.
@@ksohee6910 which is a shame. Cos it absolutely be part of modern housing as well
Would other mulberries work?
This would be good if we could learn how to make it into cloth material. Highly recyclable material for the cloth industry is never a bad thing.
it is a nightmare to politicians because a thousand years later you can read back the lies they tell.
Almost invisible high skill talent required
Wait!! What’s his name? 0:42
Doesn't Washi kozo also use mulberry fibers? I'm confused as to why Kanji is different
It originated in China and was introduced to Korea and Japan. after a long time, it had been modified and renamed to suit each countries. so basically the same ingredients but different results.
* Hanji
Is there any evidence showing a difference in quality between Korean and Japanese mulberry paper? I would assume they are almost identical...
The Japanese learned paper making from Koreans centuries ago. What do you think?
@@JohnLee-db9ztAnd Koreans got paper making from China.
@@JohnLee-db9zt Plenty of peoples' throughout history have learned how to make something from another region and then either improved upon the technique or simplified it to increase production volume. It is entirely plausible that the two national varieties of mulberry paper could have diverged slightly over those centuries. Your critical thinking skills are embarassing
@@XSpamDragonX Well according to historical archives China figured out adding hemp to the mixture improves the quality 👌 so the Korea and Japanese skill sets only show making it with pure mulberry leaves.
During the occupation era some paper making skills got imported back from Japan to Korea, and what we see now today is an amalgamation of the two mostly.
why? good things take lot of time to make and last longer
Ok
Doesn't South Korea have a policy in place to preserve certain traditional businesses/crafts? Or am I thinking elsewhere.
well.. the traditional art support progeams do exist in SKorea but it is never enough....😢
I absolutely love these papers but they are so costly...
$22 dollars for a sheet of paper THAT size, doesn't seem so much to me....?
Any paper that does not use harsh acids or bases can last for this length of time. So it is only the cheap paper that is a problem. Ordinary rag-based paper will last forever, no matter where it is made.
That's not the whole story though.
Just like fabric made from natural fibers, the length and durability of the individual fibers matters.
Iirc the "rag-paper" made in the west is often made with cotton.
Now I want Hanji paper…
Question. How many years can an ordinary paper last?
>Decided to stop international shipping
>Lowering demand.
Wow...who knew?
I would love to use Hanji for my artwork. I wish I was rich lol.
In 100 years when things like this are completely gone, we’re gonna regret it. We’re going to say that the easy inexpensive chemical base stuff which destroy the world wasn’t worth it. But the hindsight won’t matter because the artisans will be gone and the knowledge will be extinct.
1k years
The same process in Japan takes 40y to learn, instead of 4y in Korea. And costs $100 per sheet
Never knew Hanji (Korean Paper) was the origin of Ching Chen Hanji! (Asian Tom with long mustache meme)
I have a friend, Prof. Haji Noor Din Mi Guang Jiang, who is a master of both Chinese and Arabic calligraphy. He uses traditional carbon ink on mulberry paper. When he sells a piece, he tells the buyer that the paper will last 1,000 years at least; and the ink will still be clear in that time, unless the piece is left in the sun, where it might fade. However, he warns them that the silk borders on the calligraphy scrolls will only last about 350-400 years, and will eventually have to be replaced.
Surely it could benefit from some sort of cultural conservation project.
Government sponsor apprentices to supply government institutions with high quality document paper for official state and international use.
You have a rich ancient tradition of craftsmanship at hand, take it up as a badge of pride.
obviously not for disposable notepads, but for ceremonial and official documents exchanged with other nations, why would you not?
Korean and Japanese do there job to perfection they are fully dedicated to there craft really love these guys they find happiness in their work which is quite rare in west
Japanese only, Koreans are copycats and claim others' invention as their own
Also, Christmas is a traditional Korean holiday.
Hahaha! Traditional? They are newly converted christians!
that's why in Japan ancient arts and the people still alive are known as living cultural heritage. mitsuesan? paper is similar.
22.00 is cheap. Some of my fountain pens I write with cost 2,500.00.
Another beautiful art form being allowed to die in part because insider can't be bothered to provide names and contact info for ordering.
I got you with this one.
It's located in the city of Jeonju at
Jeonju Hanok village
province of North Jeolla, South Korea
Address:100-10 Pungnam - Dong 3 Ga
22 dollar is cheap if you look at the work being done
Yup. The Japanese will charge $100 for their version which isn’t as good.
@@JohnLee-db9zt yeah because they work for2 years on it,😆
@@nightfish12342 years to learn. The paper itself doesn't take 2 years.
Always love these videos and the numerous comments of "This craft should never die! They need more support! I hope they go on forever!" and it's usually something noone here would even think of buying or using, or something thats irrelevant in todays age...
I’d buy it if they sold it here in the US.
It is sold,