Moment gamer teen is arrested after threatening to shoot up his school online
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2019
- A Florida high school student was arrested on August 16 after he allegedly posted online that he would use his father’s gun to kill people at his school, police said.
Video released by the Volusia County Sheriff’s Office shows officers reading to the suspect the alleged comments, which police said were made on a gaming platform under the pseudonym Dalton Banhart.
The comment read: “I Dalton Barnhart vow to bring my fathers m15 to school and kill 7 people at a minimum.” It was spotted by the FBI, who reported it to local police.
According to police, the teenager said the comment was a joke.
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The moms denial is a big part of why this happens
Just watched your video man abt Russia and NATO possibly going to War soon. Stay strong brother and countinue spreading the truth!
and also him having acces to his dads AR-15 🤷♂️
That is what all mothers say, but he is such a good boy
Bill Cosby has been exposed as a sexual predator.
You can't say "I know this person and they would never do that."
Bill Cosby!!!!
Hi Nate, agree totally. Cops just gave him a crash course in consequences
"He's just a little boy who made a silly statement." And this ladies and gentlemen is why people end up doing anything they please. Absolutely no accountability at home.
I wonder if she will ever read this and realize how silly she sounds by claiming that "he's just a little boy".
Well said man or he they she her I don’t fuckn know anymore but we’ll said buddy lol
@@feragui3690 that "I don't fuckn know anymore" I felt lmfao
He’s 15. He’s almost an adult. He’s got less time until his brain is fully developed than the amount of time he’s been alive. He’s not a “little boy”. It’s long past time for him to be learning that there are consequences to his actions.
mommy's boy of an armed mommy in Florida....lock both of them up and throw away the key.
“Little kid” my ass. That’s a young man. Moms denial is astounding.
The officers are very un American
Teen and kid same thing basically
As someone who works in the Juvenile Justice Division, you wouldn’t be surprised how many kids are there and their parents believe they’re little kids, or innocent.
Except who did this kid harm?
He didn't harm anyone,@@yakovbrod9992 . It's his statements online about taking a gun and threatened to shooting the school is why he was arrested. Law enforcement is trying to prevent school mass shootings from ever happening. How would like to leave your home just to go to school and, like a cop, hoping to come home for dinner? Kids go to school to learn. Instead, they're worrying if they get through the day without getting shot.
@@yakovbrod9992Everybody at that school.
@@isaiahlaitinen how were they "harmed"? what parts of their body was injured?
@yakovbrod9992 He made a potential threat to shoot up a school bruh. You can't be doing that
The mother just displayed the exact type of parenting that can allow this type of BS to happen. Making excuses, etc.
100%
The mother should be furious about her kid making such threats, instead she thinks it’s “just a joke” when this is a massive issue that is destroying families. Understand this, lady, your son is exhibiting the same thinking as mass killers.
Mom messed up. Bad parent
Her bloated belly makes her un-screwable, and therefore her tears have no effect.
@@JaiceyLynnWins They would have taken me to jail for whooping his tail.
It would be helpful if the mom would accept that her son did something terribly wrong.
I agree! Half the time these parents don't know what their children do on the internet. That boy is 15 and knows what he's doing! Hope a stint in juvenile jail knocks some sense into his brain. 👍
My mum would’ve ripped my head off there and then
Yeah i understand you, but it's nit easy for a parent to watch his son go to jail, hes wrong and deserves to pay for it, but his mother refuses to accept, it's not easy :(
Typical white parents
@@Trancegirl1966 "he's just a little boy, he's 15"
.do you hear that idiotic mother?? Is she aware that mass shootings in schools is perpetrated by 15 yrs old kids and younger, or she's just to slow???
It's horrible parenting like this that leads to horrible acts happening to other innocent kids.
No. This is America, what happened to free speech. Shame on these officers and shame on this state that allowed this.
Nah because I’ll tell you if I did this my parents would be like oh well.
"But he's just a little kid playing a video game". These type of parents are the real problem
Her response should be turned into a meme, and then titled : "Shiddy Mom's"
Yep. She can't get it through her skull,, but understandably so since she's ignorant on the matter. She thinks he said this to another gamer as an act of gamer rage, but even then he would've directed the threat towards that gamer and no one else and kept it in the online lobby. Instead this kid decided to literally write a statement with the threat and specifically targeted his own school.
“But he’s a child!” “That’s why he’ll be charged as a juvenile”
Loved that 😂
Frrr
True 🔥
He's a child just like the rest of the damn shooters if we are calling a 15 year old a child. It's not old people doing these shootings.
Apparently he isn’t people either
He was not thinking with a child’s mind when he stated that …. He was stupidly thinking from a preteen or teen’s mind that I’ll say this to get ATTENTION & Boy, he now has a whole lot of “NEGATIVE ATTENTION” on his entire family because his mom is in so much denial!!!
This mom has failed this boy and probably will fail him for the rest of his life. Just disappointing to watch the lack of comprehension and logic happening in her head.
Where's the kid's father? That's what I like to know. If the father was more active in the kid's life it likely wouldn't gotten to this point. The mother didn't help by indulging the kid.
This state failed America. What happened to freedom of speech. These officers are evil
Watching this again years later.... anyone noticed how unemotional the kid seems to be.... how calm?
The moment the mom said she did have a gun. I was like, motive, weapon, target. All we need is opportunity (the next school day), and we got murder bingo.
I think the mom's overly emotional and the kid can't show any emotion without upsetting her. So he can't deal with his feelings.
Yeap. I noticed. He knows it’s better to exercise his right to remain silent and not incriminate himself any further.
"Not my son!" That's what all mothers say. Then, when the kid does it, they say, "He's a good boy"
No. Only blatant ones.
To be fair though her son did NOT DO it. And making a comment online is no guarantee he was even planning to do it, let alone was going to. So she is right that the officer shouldn't stand there and make it seem like her son is the same as someone who actually has done it. That's not right.
“He’s a Good boy” like a damn dog? Lmao can’t stand when people say that
@@TRex-dd4ze Stop saying that again and again. You've said it in the video for a gazillion times already it's annoying as hell! Either discipline him or better be ready to see his sorry lil 🍑 get clapped soon.
Yeah, but as bad as it is, he doesn't have a dad so the statement was a lie. It's dumb Nd should charged but dtill
Honestly, if it really was a “joke” then this is a good lesson not to joke about such awful things. And if it isn’t a joke, then the cops intervened before anything happened.
sitting in jail might be a reasonable lesson but a felony record isn't exactly "a good lesson". If he's convicted he'll have a better chance at providing for himself by turning to crime than actually trying to get any kind of half decent job. Then he'll be a real criminal that's actually disrupting society.
@@Wuqz I doubt it will go that far to be honest. I have a feeling that they will use it more as a fear thing or like a lesson. Oh I just saw this was awhile ago I will see if I can find how it turned out.
@@Wuqzwith an opinion like that, it will take one of your family members taken from you by one of these punks to get your head out of your butt... that is ignorant... you shouldn't shower, you'll just get dirty again...
@@Wuqz He's only 15. He'll get a slap on the wrist. A hard one, but nothing close to what he would get had he been a full grown adult.
@@Wuqz he’s 15 his file would get sealed when he turned 18
Actions have consequences. Moms like this are enablers.
Nah bruh because if I did this my mom would be whooping my ass if I still lived under her roof so yeah, it don’t matter if I’ve been bullied or picked on or didn’t get my way.
“He’s not people! He’s a child!,”
I- this mom is so desperate for a defense she really just said children aren’t people.
The mom: “He’s just a boy!” The cop: “Yeah and that’s why he’ll be charged as a juvenile.” ☠️☠️☠️
Cops: TOUGH!! 🤯😮😤😤😤☠️☠️☠️☠️
🤣
And how many boys have actually carried out their threats. All too often kids treat life like a video game where you can get multiple lives by scoring higher points. Sorry but in life you have but one life.
@@garyholt4445 Real life is NOT mario lmao🤣
@@garyholt4445 like 0.1%. Ever had someone get so mad they’re like “I’m gonna kill you!”, this is like if you actually called the cops and got them arrested. It’s a kid making a private joke verbally and they arrested him for a written threat like he sent it to the police station themselves. It’s Florida so I shouldn’t be surprised with the craziness coming from their police departments.
Not once did I hear the mother discipline her kid. That is exactly why he is the way he is. No accountability and these kids think they rule the world.
Agree, people are getting lazy parenting these days
Yup
ye so arresting a kid who already lacks faith in the system is gonna help....
To be fair, she doesn't want her kid to be taken away, or arrested, I get it. I think in situations like this the parent will often defend the kid right away, and discipline later, her goal is to attempt to reverse the arrest, even if it isn't a plausible goal.
If I ever would have done something like this I would be glad the cops got me instead of my damn parents
Wow! He is not a "little boy"... 15 is a man and decent men don't threaten to do insane acts of violence. I'm glad they got him, glad for his classmates!
That's her babyboy😮💨🤢
15 is still a kid.
15 isn’t a man, however, he is old enough to be fully aware that making such a statement is incredibly reckless and could lead to serious legal consequences.
@Charlie-bh3yk your right but keep in mind not all 15 years olds understand
15 is not a man. I believe this mother is in denial about her kid, but he's certainly not a man. His frontal lobe (decision making) won't even be fully developed until he's 25. I believe he is a kid who said something stupid without thinking about the consequences which is what 15-year-olds do unfortunately. I play video games (I'm old) and I hear kids saying the most, vile things during game play. The thing parents like this mother in the video need to do is get their kids off the screen. Many of them play violent games for hours and lose sight of reality and in games, there are no consequences.
As a mother myself I'm disgusted at this mother's reaction to this. A kid should never joke about death or murder for any reason.
You never been in Australia we make the worst jokes that I come back and watch these dumb video's watching kids go to jail having jokes with his friends
Holding him at ZERO accountability. Great parenting, lady.
Accountability for what ?
@@JohnCSmith-lp1qr did we watch the same video
@@JohnCSmith-lp1qr a threat The fact that he threatened to shoot up a school he needs to be held accountable for saying that she never once told him that she was disappointed or asked him why he did what he did she immediately got to defending him
@@jmpmp_505 Yup..... but you zoomed in and Missed the Point . Why are our kids Violent ?
@@carmen3819 We need to find and eliminate the Couse or our kids/Future is pretty grim
This mother’s complete and utter lack of awareness is breathtaking.
its just a joke.
@@yakovbrod9992To her it is, sure.
@@rud5101 you don't believe in freedom of speech anymore?
@@yakovbrod9992 Terroristic threats aren't protected speech.
@@rud5101 where in the constitution does it say this?
Also, when did jokes become "terror threats" ?
You're telling me you agree with this kid facing 5 years in prison if convicted when people who have actually harmed other people get far less.
You serious?
"silly statement" Girl *I* almost went through a school shooting. He's damn 15 stop babying him.
The mother’s denial tells you all you need to know about her. She’s the root of the problem and it’s the exact kind of parenting that will enable her son to continue engaging in these behaviors. Today’s parents are soft and need to learn a thing or two about discipline because in my days, If I ever pulled something like that, I would’ve gotten my a$$ whooped!
You literally are a "today's parent".
@@chlorine5795he might not be a parent. She might be a good parent. Most kids can do stupid things. Once you're a parent you know that. There are some genuinely well behaved, nice kids out there, but that's not all to do with "good" parenting.
@@waynemongo can you define good parenting in your own terms and (no Google) for us non tech savvy newbies?
@@iamethanmiller not really, now you mention it. But I'd say giving your children attention is probably the best thing you can do if you want happy children.
A classic enabling parent that hasn’t a clue on raising a child. More of this has to happen to send a message. Thank you officers!
And your way of raising a child is giving them a felony for edgy statements. Smart!
It’s a tough situation. As a parent I can understand what she’s going thru, but also why they are doing this these days. It’s hard seeing your kid get in trouble.
That's BS. The kid made a dumb comment on a video game. You could be the perfect single parent and provide him with everything he needs and still wouldn't be able to prevent the comment. Kids make mistakes. Kids do dumb things. It's called learning. Get over yourself.
@@TCSyndicate Dude wtf an edgy statement and a terroristic threat are NOT the same lmao
@@TCSyndicate Its called being accountabile for making terroristic threats ! Inexcusable. Condoning bad behavior creates failures.
Important fact to realise:
*If all moms were right with that "but not my son/daughter!" line, jails would not exist.*
Exactly lmfao but you know if her neighbors kid did it she would have no problem with him being arrested
LMFAO 😂😂 👍💯💯💯💯
@@MrUshtush being self centered can have consequences not originally intended.
on god
So no innocent person has ever been locked up?
This woman is as big a risk to society as the kid.
I wish the police or law enforcement would re-educate her too. She is just allowing her son to be like this.
"It IS a joke to them!"
Well it's not a joke to the rest of us and we're happy to help your son come to that realization.
A 15-year-old is not "just a little boy", he's a sentient and conscious young man who knew what he was saying. Not hard at all to see where the root of the problem is.
Exactly teenagers are old enough to think and act like an adult and they are well aware of the decisions they make.
@@BackwardzCap Well, not all of them. Many 15 year-olds are very childish and unaware of ther real world. Obviously, in this case we can't make a judgement about maturity.
@@jonb4020 That is true when it comes to some teenagers some of them can be naive which I noticed are mostly the younger teens like 13, 14, and 15 year olds. Once a teen becomes 16 and older they tend to be be much more mature.
@@BackwardzCap that depends on the parents if they grew him up with the right way and took him out to work and stuff outside some kids can be mature even at 13s,, but then you have kids whom are neglected by parents and the parents just brought him a video game and spends time doing video game all day then no i have seen kids at 18s acting like they are in elemintry school
@@BackwardzCap good m
I am really impressed how this cop stayed calm the entire time, even when the mother was losing it. That's how a cop should act in a situation like this.
She wasn't losing it. She was reacting the way most people would to a situation like this.
White privelage
It's because he is white
@@thegreatest5636 no such thing bud, stop living in the past.
Unfortunately it seems like a regular thing he has to deal with.
"He's a little boy" she gonna be saying that into his 30's. h'es not.
When i was 11 years old and made a joke to shoot my friend, i got took to Principal of the school with security and my teacher, and they said they would put the school on lock dowm but the busses was loaded. And i don't blame them for taking it seriously.
Fun Fact: If you're child is teenager, there is an extremely high chance that you don't know their personality
Exactly. And that's what these parents need to know. Sure he could've been joking. But they don't know that for sure.
i'm a school bus driver, and these kids get on the bus then say and do the dumbest things thinking that i'm distracted with driving to the extent that i don't hear what they're doing. the language of my fifth and sixth graders is just appalling, when i hear them talk nasty i ask them if they talk that way around their parents. they'll say no, so i tell them not to talk that way around me.
of course, we did the same thing at that age, too. you're right, we have a set of standards depending on who we're around.
I agree with your statement to an extent. I’d say it depends on how involved you were in their life before they were teenagers. Too little involvement or too much can absolutely lead to a parent not knowing what’s going on with their teen at all because either the teen thinks they don’t care anyway or the teen’s afraid of getting in trouble so they sneak around. This situation seems more like two strangers cohabiting instead of a parent and a child imo.
True. The parents are remembering them as sweet little 5 year old's. Once they're teens, the parents know only what their kid chooses to share, which usually isn't much.
They know. They lie to themselves because the truth is too painful but deep down they know their kid is garbage. Never underestimate a humans ability to twist reality to make it palatable.
"Not my son.", said every mother of the kids who do it.
My favorite line is "He's gonna face the consequences." Words that aren't said enough!
"he was a good boy trying to get his life on track" - every mother after their son commits suicide by cop
TraceguyRune: Yeah or they try an attempted armed robbery and get shot by the victim and the parents blame the victim.
@@letsgobrandon7297 or worse they blame the gun. Ridiculousness
Most parents know their kids, it's the parents who abuse their children who are the problem, like she said it should be viewed on a case by case basis, maybe a mental health evaluation but to charge a 15 y.o. with a felony is ridiculous, genius.
@@joshkrone4841 Abusive parents are not the problem with most of these kids, apathetic /ignorant ones are.
She failed as a parent
You too
Mommy trying to defend this kid, but we cannot let these threats go. Robb Elementary was absolutely horrific, the worst thing I’ve ever seen. And if we ignore these threats, it opens the door for more mass shootings.
He made a specific threat with actual ease of access to a firearm. The cops did their job well.
Now what the boy sentence life in prison
@@husamidris292 no, probably a slap on the wrist, judge probably barred him from using the Internet until he’s 18. Maybe some therapy. He’s a juvenile so as soon as he’s 18 he will typically be let off. Depending on how he acts of course.
Yea kidnapping her child
right, like where was the joke? I don’t even see how that could possibly have ‘just been a silly video game’
@@CurienBoi that's correct. i'm also not on any type of state or federal registry. are you?
This officer was so professional, what a tough job.
Yeah those cops were 100 on that
No he wasn't the cop put terrorism in air quotes because the boy is white. Mass shootings by white boys are terrorism
yes, very professional and patient
bootlicker
Dumb cop
This is a bit rediculous.The next time he has lunch and is asked why he is in jail "made a threat on a message board to kill people in my school" while everyone else in there with him will be there for the actual possession of weapons to cause harm or even firing a weapon that killed someone. This is a bit too much to give a felony charge, a felony charge is meant for people who actually murdered someone. I get why it should be taken seriously, but a felony charge, really. That is a crime with a sentencing of upwards of a year.
TheFergo correct
He made the state talking about killing people at his school that is a second degree felony when he made a statement threating to harm a bunch of people at his school that is also a threat to commit an act of terrorism which a second degree felony is a fine up to $10,000 and 15 years in Florida state prison that kid being that he is charged as a juvehile offender he's likely getting 15 days in the juvenile detention center.
It is actually insane how keeping your mouth shut is apparently hard for a lot of people.
Well you don’t got a choice, say anything it’ll be used against you. There’s no way you never knew that.
"My son would never do that!" is just the prequel to "We never had any idea anything was wrong with him!"
Exactly what I was thinkin
So true,
so what if he made a threat? do you know how many people make threats like that online? people say stupid things all the time, still only
@@LeventeCzelnai If you made threats you must accept consequences.
@@LeventeCzelnai So!!!!! Lock him up and his silly ass mom or sumthing
I like how the officer calmly, respectfully, and clearly set out the facts of the situation for the mother.
@@MrOpinionPod he also committed a felony in the state of Florida for writing a threat of a mass shooting
Florida law also has Baker’s act that takes a person even a minor under custody in a hospital’s mental ward for an act of violence towards others or even just oneself.
@@MrOpinionPod u say that until one of them actually does go thru with it… most mass murderers have serious mental problems and are very good manipulators. Simple counseling will not help them. It’s his fault he said it. Yes, I know it was a joke and a lot of people make those jokes, it also is a written law in Florida… so u can’t just say “it was a joke” to get out of it. If I was in his or his moms shoes I wouldn’t be mad at the officers or the law. I would be disappointed, but I would still understand why it was happening and I would get it
@@MrOpinionPod well I guess you would just wait til it happened and children are murdered. Your a swell guy
@@pointlessvideos2321 that's BS. You can't blanket anyone who makes an offside comment as a potential mass murderer. So to say counseling won't help is saying just that....it does help. If counseling didn't help it wouldn't be a thing....of course bad people will still do bad things but not all people that do bad things are bad people. Arresting minors for speech is cruel and unusual punishment.
As soon as the mother opened her mouth, I had an insight as to why the kid wrote that garbage.
It always starts with,
"He's not gonna! He's not that type."
It ends with,
" Why didn't someone do something? "
Or
" We didn't think he was capable of doing it. "
Always..... do what? Lock them all up for life?
@@narajuna What do you suppose we do? This is extremely disconcerting behaviour and we can't just let it slide, he's 15 and old enough to know that saying something like that is absolutely not okay hence why he used it in the context he did. So if we aren't allowed to punish these kids, how are we supposed to take preventative measures to ensure school shootings don't occur?
Exactly what I was thinking. And even if the cop would have told her that she still wouldn't understand or accept it.
Nobody suspects a child.
Parents don't realise how much they enable their children's behaviour. "They're just a kid". "Boys will be boys". "She didn't know what she was saying". "It was a joke".
I like this way of handling the situation, because he's not going to understand the weight of his words otherwise. Especially with a mum who turns a blind eye.
@@chiggy2206 Gee, I dunno. It's crazy how other countries aren't locking children up and also don't have school shootings. Can't imagine why.
Four years later I hope that kid is still in detention.
The denial is a red flag, she should WANT her child to learn NOW not when he’s an adult.
That cop has taught that boy more in the span of 3 minutes than his mother has taught him his whole life
Exactly right. There's no father in the picture and the mother has let her son live in a delusional world. She hasn't taught him that in the real world, our words and actions have consequences. Suddenly, the police confronted him with reality and the mother was shocked and outraged.
Agreed
God damn right.
In the juveline prison this kid is more likely to turn into a criminal.
@@outatisater7943 And on the outside he’s more likely to become a mass shooter. There are levels of criminal
The cop did an amazing job explaining and refuting without losing his patience!
Agreed
The actual crime in the U.S. is "assault". That's different from "assault & battery" which is also different from "attempted assault & battery". Which no, isn't necessarily a felony offense.
In addition, I see no evidence to support the cop's claim. U.S. Courts presume innocence until proven guilty.
If you can't get off the internet bandwagon, don't bother pretending you're going to do your civic duty when jury time comes.
@@KhaoticRedd The actual crime in the U.S. is "assault". That's different from "assault & battery" which is also different from "attempted assault & battery". Which no, isn't necessarily a felony offense.
In addition, I see no evidence to support the cop's claim. U.S. Courts presume innocence until proven guilty.
If you can't get off the internet bandwagon, don't bother pretending you're going to do your civic duty when jury time comes.
@@justinlavine9209 He wasn't being charged for assault or battery. Of course you wouldn't see evidence of it, that isn't what he did. He is being charged under terrorism. Specifically, his charge was writing a terrorist threat to commit a mass shooting in school. You sure there's no evidence of that? He literally wrote that he was going to take his father's gun and shoot "at least 7 people". If you are going to play internet lawyer, at least make sure you know what the charges are. Tip for the future 😉
@@justinlavine9209 did you see what I agreed with previously at all? It has nothing to do with what you're talking about. I think you directed this at the wrong person
Dear mother, no kids do not make mass shooting threat.
The mother is insufferable.
“That’s not my son!”
..said every parent of a killer.
"He was a good boy"
"He went to church everyday"
"He was studying to become a doctor"
*shows 3rd grade pictures*
the thing is he isnt a killer
@@datdudeczn No, but he's possibly dangerous and safety comes first
@@user-do5zk6jh1k exactly right
Dad don't you remember me, last time we seen each other you went to get some milk
These police officers were very patient, understanding, and made sure to explain things thoroughly. I can appreciate their common sense and decency while performing this arrest.
Yeah glad to see he figured out the words to say at the end to lay it out clear, after taking the time to allow the emotions to well up and then dissipate a bit
Yes. This.
Good job to the officers making this arrest and the FBI agent who spotted this online. Great point the officer made that the child needs food water and a roof over their head they don’t need online gaming in their life many of us grew up without it and we are better for it. No one is “just a child” if they can grab a parents rifle and go shoot up a school and expressed that intention in writing. In today’s world that is no joke.
They should have maced her for interfering and being stupid. and then told the kid it’s his fault.
VERY patient. They had to stand there and listen to the mother basically say that him not doing anything means they should only take action when something does happen. She didn't even scold her son for it and doubled down by saying "adults" put him to it. Disturbing.
I can understand why police don't want to explain things to citizens sometimes. It must be extremely exhausting. Imagine having to explain over and over that you can't make threats to shoot up a school.
The patience of the officer
"He's not people, he's a child." Oh dear. Kudos to the cops for handling this professionally.
Hitler was once a child
Ok let's be honest here, what's the actual percentile of real mass shooter announcing this kind of statement in a game?
THEY SHOULDN'T CHARGE HIM AS A FELON, THEY SHOULD PROHIBIT HIM FROM EVER GETTING A GUN, THEY SHOULD TAKE HIM TO A PSYCHIATRIST AND SEE IF HE'S STABLE AND THEY SHOULD MONITOR HIS BEHAVIOR IN AND OUT OF SCHOOL FOR A FEW MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!
If this video made me realize anything is that I have to have a real talk with my son. I need him to understand that even if this kid was joking that the threat is real and will be dealt with in a very real way. My son is a great kid. But it's my responsibility to guide him and make sure he knows that even though mistakes can be made that consequences are very real. I see this as a chance to teach an important lesson. Especially where time's are so different than when we were kids.
@@shadyb834 I get that. But I'm still going to show my son what can happen when joking about something so serious. 👍 my son is a great kid and I'm sure most are. But you gotta admit some of the things in these games are seriously messed up. He's all I have so I'm not leaving anything to chance.
“It’s not my son, my son is special.”
“He’s a little boy still.”
She just can’t freaking see past her emotion.
My dad was a simple country boy who lived on a farm in Southern Alabama, with his widowed mom & 10 kids.
He had a simple way of explaining complex human behaviors...that my PhD doesn't even cover...
"Aww, it ain't complicated...Crazy begets crazy. They come from somewhere you know. She doing the best she can with what she don't got."
It cost me $200K & no one ever explained it so well. My dad never finish HS.
@@d.h.dd.h.d.5230 Is your doctorate in gender studies?
There are younger kids starting businesses, performing on America’s Got Talent because they were treated with respect and responsibility. Excuses produce immaturity.
@@kansashoneybadger7899 *cough* incel 🚩🚩🚩
@@roshparmar8285 Wrong terminology
"he's just a little kid!"
No ma'am. Obviously you checked out of his life as soon as he hit puberty.
That mother is an awful parent, keeps saying he’s a little boy! Wake up he’s 15!! This is why these shootings happen, because of a mother like this!
Teen and kid same thing did you like grew up in a abusive family because it's not normal to treat a teen as a adult
Listening to his mother really shows why her son did what he did. She wants to excuse his behavior and have no consequences for it.
there is no need to stop the person from using his hands
She’s a Dawn Woods basically
@@hotpointbrownlover3365 well schools allow bullying but punish the victims when they fight back and school shooting happens you either one stop bullying completely and help victims which they don't or two let the bully get his ass handed to him better than the mass shooting at schools
@@Landon-vx4bnThat's because bullies are smart about what they do. They're careful to stay out of actual trouble but push their victims to the point where they retaliate in a way that draws attention.
@@denverlilly3669 and don't say she was far away she was like 7 feet away
“That’s not my son, he would never do that”, I’m willing to bet every parent of school/mass shooters said the same exact thing.
Yep
There is abusive parents who hate their children
Absolutely correct, but it must be hard for parents/family to even compute that their kid could do something like that
Just saying “that’s not my son” alone is a red flag. She’s basically denying him as her son.
@@TheMastertbc sadly
And parents like her is why kids are so messed up these days. She refuses to make him take accountability for his actions!
That's what's killing this country is that parents are denying their children's bad behavior which leads to serious consequences. There's a total difference between being just a kid and making threatening remarks that you want to go and kill people. This mom better wake up before her son really hurts someone
The fact that his mom defended him instead of confronting him shows us the type of parent she is.
And exactly the type of parent that enables their kid until he shoots up a school then say "I have no idea how this could of happened"
That doesn't really apply. She was trying to defend him from getting a felony. Behind closed doors I'm sure it'd be a different response from her.
Right. It’s neglectful… And plain wrong.
@@223rockmaster You are making a huge assumption there. The fact that her son made those statements shows she didn't care. My kids are taught and drilled to never ever make threats to anyone even online or on video games. It's not a joke.
@@RPG-oh1yf It's a big joke actually. That's what video games are for to let steam off. Teach your kid that and he'll be picked on hard if he plays competitive games.
The fact that she's more upset at the cop than at her child hints at where the problem is.
The fact that threats like this even need to be taken seriously shows where the problem is. *cough* re****ed gun legislation *cough*
The actual crime in the U.S. is "assault". That's different from "assault & battery" which is also different from "attempted assault & battery". Which no, isn't necessarily a felony offense.
In addition, I see no evidence to support the cop's claim which for all anyone knows is hearsay.
U.S. Courts presume innocence until proven guilty. If you can't get off the internet bandwagon, don't bother pretending you're going to do your civic duty when jury time comes.
Being upset at your kid for making the remarks and being upset about him being arrested are two very separate things. The kid should have gotten warning at best not get fully processed into the system.
Seeing the mom trying to excuse her kid's behavior shows why he is the way he is. Failed parenting at its finest.
“A silly statement”
She is so delusional it is actually sad. Be an adult and admit you failed as a parent cause if you did your job your kid wouldn’t think terroristic threats are a “joke”
“It’s always a joke when they are caught,”
yeah that cop was 100% right they always say it’s a joke when caught but while they plan it and carry it out and it turns out it wasn’t a joke
If it was a joke his life is ruined now
@@roll14tideroll good
I literally don't know what type of stupid formula for catching school shooters this is but its borderline braindead. The fact that people are actually saying the cops are right is mind baffling for me. When u go online on games u relax and make stupid jokes, its part of the fun. I've been playing games for most of my life with my friends and if u track what we all said in those games, trust me we would all get life in prison. It doesn't mean we really mean it because its a joke. I'm not saying this guy is not a school shooter, what I'm saying is with these types of arrest u will arrest 100 000 innocent people and u will arrest a one real school shooter. The formula mathematically doesn't work. I get more fascinated by americans brains and their retarded ass thinking everyday.
@@luiscastaneda5250 not good
@@luiscastaneda5250 life ruined over a joke? Where no one was actually harmed? Seems a bit steep for a kid
"He shouldn't be treated as though he is a terrorist" He isn't, he's being treated as though he made a threat for terrorism , which he did do.
And mass shootings is terrorism attacks…
@@Nature-556 Well if we are getting technical they aren't, as mass shootings simply try to kill as many as possible, terrorism requires a political motive of some sort.
@@Catwhisper175 did I ever say anyone couldn’t?
@@ForgeofAule that’s nonsense, one of the definitions of terrorism is “the act of terrorizing, or state of being terrorized.” Just because mass shootings in school aren’t necessarily in pursuit of some political goal does not exclude it from being terrorism. Every single one of those human pieces of garbage who do this are terrorists.
Lies, it's not terrorism
i bet if the father was involved this wouldve been handled a lot faster. kids need BOTH parents.
What a mother no wonder her son is acting like that
4 years later, I hope this mom understands how wrong she was.
I hope she gets proven right because that means he won’t have done anything bad.
How stoopid of you. He's old enough to know not to make statements like that, especially when he's in a society that suffers from things like that
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@@adamgh0 I think you misunderstand. If the mom gets proven wrong, it’s because the son shoots a school at some point in the future or does some other depraved thing. I hope that that doesn’t happen. I hope that he fulfills all the good that his mom hopes for him.
She will understand nothing. Not ever. She was an incubating biological box that produced a humanoid like herself. She also should be arrested. Good talk by the senior officer at the end. You talk crime, you go to jail.
"He made the charge, he's gonna face the consequences." Best learning tool ever, folks.
@@LowTempDabr Cry about it. If felons can live normal lives. So can this punk. I never said that at 15. LOL
@@LowTempDabr IKR? Like if the cops really want to screw over a kid so badly he dies before even hitting 18, why don't the cops just kill the child themselves and stop wasting their time?
And on that note, where are the cops when kids are being beaten half to death in the schools anyways regardless of this crap? Where are the cops when groups of children target one specific child in schools throwing death threat after death threat in the middle of lectures? Nothing is ever done then.
And on THAT note, where are the cops when anything on Twitter happens?
Why target this specific kid so badly? What are these people after? Why do they hate this specific teen?
to be a criminal lmao, live is not over it will hardly make a dent in his timeline
@@LowTempDabr What's the alternative? Wait til he shoots up a school? Nah. He said he was going to kill kids, gave his full government name in that threat, and he has access to guns. He's not so young he hasn't seen coverage of school shootings and he's old enough that he's been through years of active shooter drills and seen classmates who were scared about it. He still chose to make that threat.
@@LowTempDabr OK, AND? the points you’re trying to make are so irrelevant. at 15 you should know right from wrong, stop with the excuses. it’s embarrassing
This mom is unbelievable. I would’ve turned my son in. He needs to learn a hard lesson from his actions.
15 is truly old enough to know better. Disgusting.
“He shouldn’t be treated like a terrorist because he said something silly in a stupid video game.” Ma’am, if they treated your son like he was a terrorist he’d be on the ground in cuffs.
If they treated him like a terrorist, they wouldn't be asking questions and there wouldn't be just one or two uniformed officer there.
One word. White
I mean he is being charged with a felony
Sadly, the way cops respond to acts of terrorism depends strongly on the skin color of those terrorists. Jan. 6th showed us that
@@robertfishburn8545 Jan 6 was only the beginning. We gave those who doubt us a taste of what true power is.
That Mom's reaction explains a lot. "He's just a little kid, he wouldn't do something like that." Gee, do you think that is what every single mom of a school shooter thinks?
Hmm what does it explain?
Lack of a good father figure makes weak bodied and weak minded children.
@@UtubeH8tr Correction: lack of good parenting
I mean just look at Chris Chan
To be fair jokes like that are said 24/7 and the mother will always back her children first. Can get arrested for small things like that the world is a scary place
@@jocklazer5526 Threat is a threat regardless and illegal. Kid need to get good sense of humor or watch his mouth. Being a "kid" is not an excuse to say whatever you want.
“He’s just a little kid” is the dumbest I’ve heard ever, anyone can make threats let alone act on it age is just a number
Someone honestly needs to hold this mom accountable for something
I can’t commend these officers enough for having the patience to explain the real world to this mom
"world" meaning only the US where kids are going to school and shooting eachother.
*to explain America* you mean
To explain america you mean
It's everyones fault except her and the child, somehow.
@@ramanajah you guys act like even more foul and disgusting things don’t take place in other countries. There are schools getting blown up in the Middle East. Young’s girls raped and beaten for wanting to be educated. There are concentration camps in china for Muslims. But everyone focuses on America when the same or worse things happen more often in other countries.
The fact the mother doesn’t understand how serious it is, explains why the son wasn’t able to see why it’s so serious and that actions have reactions!
Look up the first amendment.
None of this would have had to be taken so seriously if Americans banned the usage of guns without license. If guns had heavy restrictions these threats wouldn’t have to be taken so seriously.
@@durrtybuck8949 1A protects you from the govnot from the consequences of your words lol. People like you screaming “muh fursta menment” degrades it’s purpose for the sake of avoiding accountability. Stop
@@durrtybuck8949 Threatening with murder is not protected by first ammendment.
@@MazdaRX7007 sure it is. Very often people joke about killing each other ie. “I’m going to kill you”, “you’re so dead when I see you”, “you’re dead meat” etc. Who arrested BLM we then threaten to kill cops? Free speech is free speech. When you act upon it, now it’s a different story. But this kids jokes are 100% covered by free speech.
When the mom says, "It's just a joke.", she does not realize that all those dead kids in school shootings is no joke. That woman's ignorance is unbelievable, as she keeps saying, "my son is not like those terrorists". I'm glad the officers caught him and arrested him before he could do something awful.
She needs to understand that's how all the problems start... when they are young and can easily be influenced.
The officer asking if she owns a gun immediately after she said he wouldn’t do that type of thing is awesome. This officer is clever, witty, and very professional, staying calm the whole time, props to him
THEY SHOULDN'T CHARGE HIM AS A FELON, THEY SHOULD PROHIBIT HIM FROM EVER GETTING A GUN, THEY SHOULD TAKE HIM TO A PSYCHIATRIST AND SEE IF HE'S STABLE AND THEY SHOULD MONITOR HIS BEHAVIOR IN AND OUT OF SCHOOL FOR A FEW MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!
We need to fund the police so we can more efficiently eradicate these future shooters.
You scare me Gwazi
I agree. And he also stated he spends ALL of his time doing this. So he definitely has all the good points on hand.
He knows no better than her about these things, why, she watches the nightly news and Fat Oprah and she's a mom 'n all. 😁😂🤣
“M’am we aren’t here to debate what he did or didn’t do. Your child said something online that indicated his intention to cause mass harm and now they must be held accountable.” Plain and simple, just shut her down before she says anything stupid.
Ive seen worse said online like 20 times this week. My guess is the police wanted to make an example of him.
@@tdestroyer4780 I've worked with Osama bin Laden. You people won't see whats coming. Allahu Akbar
@@tdestroyer4780 like this?
@@tdestroyer4780 Nope. The kid just happened to give vivid details in his threat which made it appear legitimate. Like his full name, where he'll shoot up, how many people he'll kill, where he'll get the weapon, exact model of weapon etc. Someone reported him to his local police and the police found out his parents do actually have that weapon so they took the detailed threat seriously as they should.
People joking or shittalking on games dont make such detailed threats directed towards random people. It's usually generic and directed towards the opponent
She’s a mother and the officer is probably a dad too. He understands that she is trying to talk himself out but he wanted to put the extra effort to inform what he did for his mum to understand at an extent.
He’s NOT a “Little Boy”!!! He is a grown young ADULT!!!! No one should ever make a statement like that!!!
Her “little boy” threatened to kill people, but she’s the real problem.
As a Parent of course I would be really upset to see my kid being arrested, but at this point I expect there to be zero tolerance for these kind of threats.
@@mikeshaffer6574 that's what I'm saying! This is a learning lesson for the kid. I'm from the Philippines, and I moved here to the US and I'm surprised by how soft Americans are and how crap the parents are here. That's why when you think of a good discipline child you think of Asians especially in school. Parents here need to stop being so damn soft. This is the only country I know of that parents blame the teachers for everything even though it's clearly the parents and child's fault. It's getting more and more pathetic
Yeah, that's not something where you buy off the school counselor with, "Well, I was having a bad day." It just got worse, ya fruit-basket.
they'd have too aren't such a large amount of people at leastvin the 1000s but way more
@@mikeshaffer6574 Getting upset about seeing your kid get arrested and getting upset at your kid for making that statement are not mutually exclusive. Just making sure you’re aware of that.
Of course it's taken seriously, because all of the kids that have shot up schools have posted similar stuff to what he posted, or have talked about doing those things, they are the first red flags, it's the same when people comment on hurting themselves, for mental health professionals say such comments/posteting should never be taken as a joke, but should be see as a possible red flag!
You can tell she’s a part of the problem. She’s basically excusing her son for his actions and giving him absolutely no blame for what he said
What would you do as a parent?
A 2nd or 3rd degree felony charge on a 15 year old is devastating. Kids are stupid sometimes. The officers are right that they can’t distinguish between the crazies and the kids that are just kidding.
But as a parent, are you not supposed to defend your kid? At the end of the day, people say and threaten to do stuff they never mean to actually do. The kid was probably playing games and said something dumb, now his life his ruined.
Nah. I’m 100% on the side of the police but she’s just upset and panicking
The problem is with the police and people like you........ If we would record all statements you have done through youre whole life in a PC culture,,,,,, you could be easily Jailed. And then imagine its a 15 year old boy playing a video game and typing a comment loooooool...................................Ive seen written worse in my life when people are mad, kids and adults. Pathetic argument by you. You do realize also that the brain isnt fully developed untill you are 27 ? But still you use the same premiss for a kid in "responsibility" as an adult... Lol what a joke. Pathetic
@@niftygrower2745 yes but as a parent you are also supposed to teach your child the different from right and wrong and excusing their behaviour is not teaching them the difference
Yep, it's just a case of her mindlessly defending her son because 'it's her precious son how could you!!!'
I applaud the officers' efforts in keeping the community safe. These officers are the true heroes in this whole situation because they could have quite possibly just squashed a future mass shooting.
That mom is pitiful. My kid would be in deep trouble if they did anything like that. They would want to go to juvenile jail rather than face the punishment I would give them.
She’s delusional if she thinks her 15 yr old son is sharing all his thoughts and actions with her.
Exactly…..did the boy tell his mother about the comment he made on the internet before he was arrested for making that statement …obviously not.
as the parent of one, I can confirm. My son and I are also very close, but I swear something has super glued his mouth shut in his teens. I get lots of hugs and the occasional grunt lol
I used to share so much of my deep dark thoughts with my mom that she started trying to set boundaries.
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa790 ........yeah because you won't tell her where you hid your father's body you weirdo.
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa790 what dark thoughts? Why are you even having dark thoughts as a kid? Your poor mom had to send boundaries on the dark thoughts your share with her? Jesus Christ man what is wrong with some of you.
So by the mother's logic, law enforcement should wait until he actually does something. You are a large part of the problem, ma'am.
Lets arrest all the high threat people before they do anything, sounds good :)
Unfortunately, that is how ridiculous things have become
Metokurist Murdochian Archiver that’s actually smart
Every mother’s child is an angel
@Tom Jerry what?!, How is everything political?.
When I was a teen my parents didn't consider me as being a little boy. If I'd done something like this and my dad found out he would've busted my ass because he knew I was raised to know better.
When that mother said "I know my son!!"..The mother of dylan klebold also said after the shooting that she thought she knew her son.
yeah that kid was a columbine wannabe
That exact thought went through my mind when she said that. Dylan Klebold's mom thought she knew her son well enough that even after he and Eric went on their murdering spree and then carried out their own murder/suicide pact she couldn't believe her son was capable of such horrific violence.
How would the mother in this video react if her "little boy" was a victim of a school massacre and the shooter had made the same threats but was never arrested for them. She would be all up in the FBI's arses and demanding tougher laws against "little kids" who make terrorist threats. She needs to flip the script and look at this from a different perspective!
I think there must be a few more steps between making a comment online and actually going out and doing that horrendous act. So the mom is right that he should not be grouped with people who have actually done it. I'm sure there are a million such stupid comments for every one person that actually does it, so you can't group them as the same, I think that's when she got emotional
Mom is acting so ridiculous. She should be held accountable as well. Failure of a mother, Failure of a parent.
@@TRex-dd4ze , at 15 yrs old this kid is well aware if school shootings and he should have known better than to post a threat. For all we know, he could have been totally serious and these officers prevented yet another mass school shooting. Sorry, but boys will be boys may have been an acceptable excuse 20 years ago, but not anymore. It clearly is not a joke
He’s not a child with innocent morals he lost that respect as a child when he posted to murder his classmates! Period! Take responsibility for your children!
Probably said that because he’s bullied. Ever think about that???
@@Garl_Vinland I was bullied too, many people are. Being bullied is NOT AN EXCUSE to make a DEATH THREAT.
@@Garl_Vinland no excuse. Ppl need to learn to be accountable and quit blaming the system and others. It’s pathetic. I was bullied and worse and I’d never even think that way.
@@Garl_Vinland ever think about how most shootings could've been avoided if we took warnings and "jokes" seriously?
@@SABbrew How bout banning guns over jokes? How about making bullying illegal too while we're at it.
CAn you imagine what this mom would say had her son went to school and was killed by some “little boy” who just days prior made same threats but cops did nothing to the little boy bc his mommy said “he wouldn’t do anything like that”. And the cops said. “Ok we trust your great parenting judgment.” “Bye”.
Damn a felony at only 15! Smh he just ruined his life
"we don't know"
"no but - I - know!"
said every mother of a child/young adult who shot at police and harmed people who did nothing to them. "He was a great kid! Straight A's!"
Said also the mother of every young child who did NOT shoot at police. Also, the mothers of children who did NOT shoot at police outnumber the ones who did, by roughly 30 million to 1.
I'm not saying whether they should have arrested the kid or not, but let's not pretend like kids don't make stupid online threats every minute of the day, yet only the smallest of fractions ever materialize into something real.
threats that end in school shootings are extremely rare, arresting a kid for saying something dumb will only sow mistrust
@@blips- maybe, I’m objecting more to the idea that because this kid made a stupid threat, it means he intends to do it. The overwhelming probability here is that he does not. If we need to arrest these kids then so be it but we should do it while realizing that 99.9% of these kids won’t ever hurt anyone.
@@iamamish Maybe I do t understand the context, but imo it goes both ways. Firstly we have the admittedly excessive arrests in the US, it's a world meme tbh. But secondly these things should NOT be taken lightly. A responsible parent and teachers would have drilled into you to take what you post seriously, the delete button doesn't always save you. In particular the rate of gun violence in the US is also quite the meme, and it's similar to an engine. You can have millions of safety systems around a feature, but if the component is not there in the first place it won't go wrong. But understandably guns are kinda here to stay, so it's prudent we contain the risk, so that it remains safe to live in a gun society, even if it means arresting teens for being careless/callous with their words online. The US is a laughingsotck in many areas, thankfully not this time. Such an arrest won't leave a criminal record as far as I'm aware, it won't impact anyone long term, but it will teach the child to be serious before he goes round boasting about sussier stuff like ahem ahem orange man who somehow became president does. All of this discounting the obvious security threat in the event he goes forth with his plan.
@@iamamish what are you gonna do when the 0.1% shot the school
When I was 17 in high school, my friends and I made a stupid prank phone call to a girl who had a reputation in high school and made some stupid, not so nice jokes. When my dad found out, he threw me in the car, drove me to this girls house and made me apologize to her in front of her parents. I was petrified and extremely embarrassed(as I should have been). It was well deserved and I learned my lesson after that about making jokes or comments. Thank you dad for doing some real parenting
you dont see the father in this video ;)
Great job for manning up and admitting you were wrong. Really admirable!
Yep, that’s parenting. Responsibility is key.
That's great parenting right there. I've had similar mistakes in my past too and had my parents introduce me to the consequences of those actions. It really changes your world view and I now regret most of the things I've done and said :/ thankfully I was able to mend those broken relationships
@@Paronak alot of males neglect and abandon their kids so that isn't surprising
This is exactly why kids r like they r today .parents refuse to accept that it cud be your kid
"He'd never do anything like that, he's just a boy."... Mother is in denial of his consequences.
Typical enabling behavior, she can’t read her “little boy’s” mind and know what his true intentions are.
Nothing is stronger than a mother's cope.
@@dannymalatesta3138 yes. I have a strong feeling he was serious about it
@@dannymalatesta3138 he had access to a gun + he was unwilling to justify his statement
look at the statistical probability, I think all you idiots should go to jail for advocating jail to a child who made a mistake in his speech.