2023 OLYMPIA PODCAST ALL STAR LINEUP: DORIAN YATES, VINCE TALYOR, ROELLY WINKLAAR AND MORE
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- Опубліковано 4 лис 2023
- DORIAN YATES, VINCE TALYOR, PAUL DILLETT, ROELLY WINKLAAR, MILOS SARCEV, CHRIS CORMIER, CHRIS LEWIS, JOHN HNATYSCHAK & OLYMPIA OWNER JAKE WOOD JOINS DENNIS JAMES ON THIS SPECIAL 2023 OLYMPIA EPISODE OF THE MENACE PODCAST.
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Man I love Dorian being straight up and not being super restrained like most of the guys are
Restrained or stuped?
Once interviewed by Palumbo he denied the Holocaust ever happening and Dave could not convince him otherwise. It’s no surprise at all that once he’s made his mind up, it’s made.
@@BoratioPalumbo didn't prove anything, he was just playing the victim card
@@krystofodehnal9448 He referenced the photos of thousand of piled courpses lol
@@krystofodehnal9448 lol U must be rtarded like Dorian
So cool seeing Dorian at the Olympia. I hope he comes out more often.
When Dorian speaks , you listen.
@@Ruth1T0ne Yes, he is straight to the point!
Milos is very passive aggressive and Dorian is a straight shooter. 🔥
I can listen to Dorian all day… my favorite all time bodybuilder by far.
Yup 👍🏻💯💯💯
He act had a brain, and a set of balls, unlike most ppl, hadi clearly won the show, and im a nick walker fan lol
When Dorian speaks , you listen.
@@Ruth1T0ne out of all of he guys sitting up there, dorian is lit the only guy I would trust to get feedback or information from, I dont think any of the guys sitting with him, would have the balls to say the right thing on certain topics, dorian lit has a no b.s call it how it is truth to him,
@@Ruth1T0neBecause you have no choice, because he thinks his opinion is only one that matters.
This is one of the best bodybuilding podcasts I've heard in a long time. What a line up. Dorian is the man. Straight forward.
Fuck yeah.
When Dorian speaks , you listen.
How much do we think the HORRIBLE lighting and that stupid board behind the athletes played a part?
Why aren’t more talking about this?
@@Richiefitnessbecause no one wants to get black listed by the mr Olympia
Agree. Lighting was horrible, at least through the TV. Everyone looked soft.
Def plays a role
You bring up a perfect point. When they show from the side, it was clearer. Straight on lighting is not right
Dorian is the only one who can beat Milos in a debate.
I wish Dorian would do more content with Milos because it’s just amazing entertainment.
Let's say beat each other.
";-)
lol...how exactly did he beat me in a debate?
What did he say that he was right and I was wrong?
Extremely curious.
🤔
@@MilosSarcevOfficialUA-camPageabout Samson gut, etc.. he had gut, there are videos
@@MilosSarcevOfficialUA-camPage you lost the debate to Dorian in a number of ways… first Dorian said what everyone thinks he doesn’t look as big as everyone says he is - he weighs 60lbs more than Lee Haney, but isn’t in the same World as Lee, and isn’t the same universe as Ronnie.
Second, his legs are huge, but his upper body doesn’t match. You always say “take away Derek’s back”, but because Sampson has no back every pose he looks worse because the back is showing in some respect in every pose = too many gaps.
Third, you’re an aesthetic guy so you are blind to the fact how much condition makes people look so much better. You would have picked Flex, Kevin, or Shawn Ray over Dorian = you are insane and don’t understand bodybuilding.
@@MilosSarcevOfficialUA-camPageHe didn't beat you. Dorian who I always admired, has become very aggressive, to the point of belligerent when expressing HIS opinion.
Dorian has a good eye and tells it like it is. Great panel.
Damn, Dillett was only 265 pounds at 6'3, that's insane, he looked 40-50 pounds heavier. I remember my first bodybuilding VHS, it was the Olympia 93', and I was freaked out by seeing Yates and Dillett. What an awesome time the 90s was for bodybuilding! Those line-ups were legendary! As Milos would say #BODYBUILDING
I mean even 265lbs, at 3-4% bodyfat, is still HUGE, that prob means he weighs over 300lbs, walking around normally, I kinda agree though, I fig he weighed 280-285 or more bc of his heigth
Samething goes for flex wheeler, he was much lighter then he looked
Dillet competed up to 285....but in his early 90s prime when he was shredded he was 270 plus minus 5lb
In all fairness, if he had a proper back he would have been 10-15lbs heavier, also he was 187cm which is 6'1 1/2, not 6'3". Moreoever, I assume modern drugs have a higher density than "classical" muscle mass...without insulin and SEOs, you lose probably 15-20lbs while not really looking all that much bigger or fuller because of the conditioning and separation problem. Look at Krizo for example, he was barely 270 at the Mr.O according to his interview with Ron Harris, who was shocked at his weight, expecting him to be 290 or something like that and Kirzo clearly uses a 90s style philosophy to drugs and training.
If you're 280+ and not some god tier freak, most of that mass ends up looking dirty and less imprressive than you'd expect, usually off proprtions and symmetry as well. Ronnie and Günter were the only guys that instantly come to mind that actually rocked the 300lbs look, most people shouldn't look at the scale to decide if they're big and both of them were on the taller side for bodybuilders too.
@@gameurai5701 according to Dillet himself, he says he's close to 6'3 but lied about his height back when he competed
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Dorian always blunt as a spoon have to appreciate that.
Dorian says as he sees it and is on point in observation
Well I said lit the exact same thing, and most ppl say I'm crazy, hadi won fairly easy, and I'm a nick fan...
Nawl. He's hating.
@@flyingspacerock8968 glazing
@@flyingspacerock8968he is saying the truth
Dorian Yates is the GOAT!!!
He REALLY is!
In terms of physique imo its ronnie, but dorian for me is def up there, not only for his physique, but his knowledge, and says it how it is
Well, he sure thinks he is.
@@monkeyman41333 you keep commenting hating on Dorian. Why?
@@Ruth1T0nedorian probably stole his gf back in the days lmao
Doran yates was speaking facts here
Facts 🙄
Samson looks 250?
His left side?
@@MilosSarcevOfficialUA-camPagehe looks 260.. not 300
@@MilosSarcevOfficialUA-camPage I wouldn't say 260 but at least on video and photo comparisons he doesn't appear as freaky standing next to hadi and Derek as Ronnie and some people like him (Gunther, Dillet) appeared when they stood next to their competition.
Now you could argue that bb-ers were smaller back in, in general, therefore a huge guy would appear freakier but Hadi and Derek aren't crazy big. For their height? yes, but they're still really short which limits them
@@MilosSarcevOfficialUA-camPage
Does he look bigger than the 247 1998 Coleman ? Or the 255 Ronnie of 1999? Absolutely not. What about dillet ? Does he look bigger ? No. Based on that you could absolutely say he looks 250 Yates point is valid.
@MilosSarcevOfficialUA-camPage in photos and videos, he doesn't look bigger than the derek and hadi. Yea he looks like he's around 260 to 265 max. He definitely doesn't look like he's 300 pounds but we're looking at a video
Dennis James have set a new standard for bodybuilding podcast i'll pay to listen to those legends than watching the competitor on stage
I love and respect Milos so much...BUT...dude c'mon, he was like a broken record re-explaining to an entire panel that was not going to agree with him about how Samson was going to win.😂😂😂
agree
How cool it was to be a fly on the wall during this episode!!! Dennis apologized a bit for “slowing “ the show down but I loved every bit of it! Seeing Dorian, Vince , Paul and John again. Was a family reunion !
I was standing outside the booth while they filmed. They all signed my pumping iron book and they all are very nice gentleman. I have new found respect for every legend on this show.
Hadi won the competition. I had seen it all along that they wanted Derek to win - their golden boy. Dorian always gives it straight up. Hadi beat Derek in all poses except from the back Double biceps. Good for Doran for having the balls to speak up. What an injustice to take the title away from Hadi. They wanted Derek all along to win for his is his a better ambassador but its not a job interview.
I think that Hadi was better as well. However, I think that front double bicep was clearly won by Derek because of its waist and maybe back lat spread as well.
@@alexandruturza7131 def not the front went to Hadi.
They robbed him because they wanted the golden American good boy to win poor hadi
This was the BEST bodybuilding podcast of all time!
GOATs and Legends.
Wow I can’t believe they made this happen. This is a bodybuilding fans dream come true.
So cool to see Paul Dillet with the guys!!!
Agreed
Would have liked to add jay cutler to this group …. He speaks well, and very unbiased
Man, Dorian prospective on someone is honest as they come
He's right Samson doesn't look 300 when he turns around his back should look like a turtle shell ..wide as shit and detail every where ..
Loving this podcast 💪💚
And I've noticed that Samson had to squeeze harder then Derek and hadi for some reason ?
yea.. Samsons back looks smaller than those midgets back
Milos always talks about why is conditioning weighed more heavily. In my opinion, it should be. It is the variable that is most controllable. The others are much more genetic.
100%
When Dorian speaks , you listen.
Totally agree with Dorian
Me too 😜
Long live yoga master:
Downward Facing Dog
Child's Pose
Bhujangasana
Bhujangasana or Cobra Pose is a reclining back-bending asana in hatha yoga and modern yoga as exercise. It is commonly performed in a cycle of asanas in Surya Namaskar, Salute to the Sun, as an alternative to Urdhva Mukha Svanasana, Upward Dog Pose. The Yin Yoga form is Sphinx Pos
Dorian was spot on on his analysis. Dorian is a no BS guy and he has 6 Mr Olympia Sandow trophies to back it up.
The biggest rubbish is the stage with the flickering lights in the background. Apparently the organizers don't care about last year's criticism. Why r they dont talk about it?
Please get Dorian on as a regular!
💯 I like Derek a lot, but what’s right is right. I have viewed the show more than a few times now, and I believe it was close, but it looks like Hadi did enough to have the edge to retain his title.
I believe another problem that is confusing even the highly experienced bodybuilders is, the way the judges are changing their criteria and what they are rewarding from year to year. It seems they are not consistent with their standards.
Great seeing Dillet.
I hope Samson and Andrew are the top 2 next year.
Dorian is a great guy. No BS individual. Gotta respect that. Thanks Shadow. 👍👍
Great session. Dorian just to honest for the bodybuilding scene. Also great to see big Paul
By far THIS is the best 2023 Olympia coverage and podcast!
Dorian is right. Last year the guys on stage looked like guest posing in the 90s
Wow Vince Taylor looks fantastic! I met him in 2001 at Arnold and he was so polite and friendly!
His face looks about the same from 1991...
I was waiting for this one DJ. All the legends and finally Big Paul Dillet & Vince Taylor🎉
Milos does not give up on Samson!! Love it
Man Dorian is the man! Waited for jake wood to come and brought up the prize money for competitors 7th place and lower
Dorian is a genius in bodybuilding and can see details from the big picture entertainment value and down to a microscopic level of muscle details
What a great discussion with an all star panel 💯
Gotta love Dorian!! Roelly is such a nice laid back guy, he's always like, "yeah, whatever" 🤣
When Dorian talks, we all listen and learn.
Dorian is always right
Except when he is not...
@@MilosSarcevOfficialUA-camPage you have no word , it means nothing 👎🏼 L
@@MilosSarcevOfficialUA-camPageWell, Samson was third so he was right after all 😅
And he makes sure you know it.
Dorians honesty is brilliant.
I loveddd watching this, thank you for getting Dorian on!
Dorian and Milos debating is the best .....Dorian is spot ...calls it as Samson 3rd but says he has a Mr Olympia look ...BUT needs 6lb + more on upper body ....back delts shoulders arms . .....milos is also spot on....samson has best physique up there in top 3 . Samson does have bit of distension as Dorian pointed out ....plus condition is not quite there yet .....best episode yet ....Paul.. vince ...all great
Dorian was on point Sampson has the Mr. Olympia look he needs more on top. He will be Mr. Olympia but not right now.
Dennis that was the best podcast EVER!!!
PAUL "FREAKENSTEIN " DILLET, VINCE"THE TERMINATOR" TAYLOR, DORIAN"THA SHADOW" YATES, WOW!!! 🤯🤯🤯
We only needed Kevin Levrone and Flex Wheeler to complete the dream team of bodybuilding and podcast. Thank you very,very much Dennis for this AWESOME podcast!
Next time let Dorian and Milos go into a scuffle so you can sell it as a ppv event also, I'll pay for it 😅
If you could do a podcast with Paul Dillet it would be badass.
Thank you.
real!!!
Haha..totally agree what you said for Milos and Dorian..😂..I would gladly pay to see that too, just take my money 😅
As great as Milos is and credible when it comes to bodybuilding discussions, he is a bit too bias. Of course a coach is supposed to look out for their athletes, you still need to speak the facts and keep the emotions out.
I agree with Dorian.
If you guys UNDERSTAND judging...
There were 9 judges
2 high and 2 low scores are being erased and middle 5 count.
Samson got 13 points at the prejudging which means 5 judges saw him 3rd and 4 judges saw him 2nd 9out of which 2 might even saw him as a winner - but their first place votes would have been erased).
So, a delusional, emotional, and not-so-credible coach might NOT be the only one saying that Samson had legitimate chances against Hadi and Derek...basically HALF of the qualified judging panel (4 out of 9 judges saw him beating one of them)...
Non of you can handle the facts....yet all of you want to point finger at me and say stupid shit like that...
Oh well...Knock yourself out...
@@MilosSarcevOfficialUA-camPage I love you as coach, historian and your passion for bodybuilding! Growning up, you were one of the guys I like and now, I love you in a sport that lack insight and detail views such as yours. However, we can at least agree to disagree.
Yes. You are being logical or as objective as it may sound from the scoring. However, it is a subjective sport. Furthermore, I do not believe what the judges say. Aside from that, I love Samson too! Base on Dorian's comments, I agree. He does need some more back and maybe the rest of his upper body but at least the back.
Now, I agree with you 100% on the that if Hadi did not win that the next guy to give it to should be Samson!
PS-I disagree with you on your statement that there are no politics in bodybuilding. I think I heard you say that on the Jay Cutler Show. Unless you were joking and I took it for a serious tone, this year was political to me. We all know they have been pushing Derek to be the face. Even when he won the 212 or they gave it to him it was political to me. Eventhough, Saun looked tighter the year prior, he came with more size and had a more complete physique. 2007, 1980 and 1981 Mr. Os were political AF Milos.
Thank you for interaction with us!
I like Milos, but he is no longer objective at all and speaks like a fan and not like an analyst. It seems as if he sees every objective criticism as an attack. This is getting worse in my opinion. Especially in other interviews. Samson has never been in the fight for 1 and 2 and won't be if he doesn't come harder and improved his back. I think it's also because of his thick skin, but he looked anything but hard. By the way, I don't think there's a big gap between Samson and the two behind him.
They were having fun bro if you didnt pay attention in the begining he actually said Samson wont win
@@danielbabyrage8522 He said a few times, Samson is the best on stage and of course he said that Samson would win.
@@Wuestenfuchs47who cares he has to say this to keep his guy confident I would say the same thing and we all didn’t knew the outcome Sampson may as well could’ve won. But still looked good he has to keep working harder to be at hadi and Derek’s level of conditioning
Milos is very passionate but also himself admits he is biased.And he tries to argue with Dorian who actually was an judge at mr Olympia 15 years ago and who has no bias in modern contest.
And just to brag a little, im the one who called him biased some time ago on the Cutler cast and know he always mentions it lol
@@Wuestenfuchs47 Samson is best bodybuilder on stage...Many people will confirm that.
Dorian and Milos are always at each other’s throats
Great drama!
And Dorian always makes Milo’s look like an idiot.
@@lowbodyfat6707 at least Milos doesn't deny the Holocaust.
@@lowbodyfat6707 oh yeah...for sure...😜
@@MilosSarcevOfficialUA-camPage Po mom mišljenju, malo poboljšati Samsonove bicepse i leđa, trebao bi također biti 5-10% (max.) "oštriji" i to bi trebalo biti 1. mjesto. Kakva god mi mišljenja imali, sudci će i dalje po svome... conditioning je i dalje bitan koliko vidimo
Sve najbolje! 💪🏼❤
Thank You Dennis! Epic group of old school greats!!! Soooo awesome to watch💯💯💯👏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼I grew up watching these guys when I first got into bodybuilding back in the mid 90’s💪🏼💪🏼✊🏻
LOL LOVE DORIAN!! the thing is dorian can diss these guys because he came in granite hard.
Great to see all these 90's legends on the podcast👍🏻👍🏻💪 the 90's era the greatest. It was crazy how big Paul was looking back.
Amazing podcast you are legends
Great great show gentlemen thankyou brilliant to see you all around the table -legends❤
Man Vince looks amazing, would never tell he is 68.
Fantastic old school roundtable, love it! #80sand90srule!
This is quality, great stuff Dennis
Everyone complains about the lighting but 80 percent of the lighting is permanent lighting at the show, you can’t fix that easily
Wonderful podcaste the best out there in bodybuilding 💯👍☮️🥇
Milos will dance around the issue, use a lot of words but not say anything. Dorian as usual cuts to the chase lol.
Great podcast! Gotta love Dorian.
Wow!! Great to see and hear Dorian's words of wisdom. Be very interesting to hear his take on this Olympia
Dorian disappointed with the condition last year😂 Fun to hear Milos and dorian speak their minds
All right ! look at those legends !
I felt like the stage background was black in color, so Hadi and Derek really popped. Samson kind of blended with the dark background.
Hadi is not just being judged on the body which should be the whole point of the competition but seems like the champ has to fit into other criteria set up by the top board. Things like how well does it fit into be an ambassador to increase their goals and so forth. Its not just bodybuilding. The ambassador at the pinaccle of the Mr O industry sport organization is undeniably Chris Bumpstead at the moment. Perhaps the classic category should be at the pinnacle to better represent the bodybuilding values and reach out even further.
Having Milos on the podcast comparing "his" athlete to others is hilarious...an unbiased panel is better...John and Dorian seem to be the best critics...also, Samson was less conditioned than both overall...Samson is dangerous and I see Derek, Nick, Samson, and Andrew to battle for the next 3-4 years
awesome dudes
Love the way fans are watching them
That was fun !
This is awesome pure legends
Great show and even greater guests
Amazing Gathering here
Great great show Gents ❤
Awesome panel. Well done 🎉
This is the best podcast i ever seen, with all my Idols from the 90ties!❤❤❤
Hadi was the winner. It wasn't fair.
Hadi was robbed TWICE!!
His waist lost the show!
Derek won from the BACK..that alone wins 4 poses
Awesum
More like this man. The comradery and surprise visits were brilliant. An authentic show
Real life baki character...Paul dillett! Also rare as to see on youtube
Yo what’s up everyone… DY is on the floor 💪💪
Great Roundtable, Dennis.
Legends
This is the best one by far❤
Outstanding podcast! Thanks guys!
Milos touts Samson's weight and when Dorian, correctly, points out that he does not look 300, then he says numbers aren't everything. What a maroon. Also, never bet with this pauper, he never pays when he loses.
Awsome stuff
I loved it, all the guys I followed as a kid! Glad they're all still alive!
I couldn't believe that was Paul when he walked in, the last time I saw him he was 100lbs heavier!
real good podcast
Awesome podcast, one of the best.
John won the 1984 middle National and Universe. He was one of the few guys who had an 8 pack. John gad great symmetry.
I saw him a few years ago at the Southern States in South Florida. He had some big ass calves to me. They had to be at least 20”.
I'd love to see Dorian as Samsons coach for the 2024 Olympia He was saying for samson to put 6IBS of muscle on the upper body and not train the legs so much.
Samson has put 30+ pounds in less than 2 years...
And you are one of those who can only repeat what someone else said - as you cannot think on your own...
the best collab ever to date
Awesome video
Great that watched the whole thing👌🏼😁Gotta love the back & forth with Dorian & Milos😂 They disagree on a few things but clearly have respect for one another.
It's even better when you know Dorian was right with his prediction for Samson getting 3rd :D
I said the samething before the show even started, I act think 3rd place was somewhat a gift, his back isn't great
Dorian 1 - Milos 0 ☑️
Stating what?
Samson looks 250?
DY 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 #Legend.
Dorian - was my biggest hero for so long, but how can he go to the Olympia and not actually watch it?
Your hero is a Holocaust denier.
The prejudging is a bore fest for 4 hours before the open guys come on
It's not exactly a secret that he isn't impressed at all with the guys on stage these days.
The men's open bodybuilding the previous year only started at 3am, even though it was scheduled for 23:00 - no wonder a lot of people got tired and went to bed.
Why not playing the sound straight from the mix desk to avoid all the background noise ? Especially as they are all equipped with top gear (shure mics and so on). Great podcast though great energy :)
This is amazing ✨😎💪🏼
Love to see a roundtable consisting of Shawn Ray, Dorian Yates, Bob Chic, Dave Polumbu, Lee Priest, Milos Sarcev & Wayne Demelia. The dynamics would be very entertaining and all intelligent sharp shooters.