Good video. Very concise on a subject a lot of CC's have stumble on covering, including a few posting one video on one side (favorable) and then deleting it and posting a version with the opposite view. You clearly show both the positive and negative. Proper warnings plus what the positives of it are. Again, good video!
The banner is great imo. If there is no character that you want to pull ,you can check on this for a chance. Im currently waiting for Yelan on this ngl
Tip for pulling on this banner: NEVER drop below 90 wishes. As long as you have 90 wishes left, you can pull on this banner hoping for an early. If you get an early, but lose the 50/50 then put the remaining 90 to guarantee your chosen 5-star. If you don't get early, then stop pulling & pity carries over. You'll never lose your Fate Point if you keep 90 wishes in reserves. (14,400 primos)
Too much risk, you might lose 50/50 early and not have enough to primos left to guarantee. You should only pull if you have 180 wishes ready, otherwise you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
@@FunkyEspelhoCat That's why you KEEP 90. If you have 115 wishes, make 25 pulls (bringing you down to 90) and then get a 5-star but lose 50/50, that means you have the 90 left over to get your 5-star still. As long as you never drop below 90 wishes, you can pull on this banner.
@@GarethPierce Like he said you still carry over pity to the next banner so no wasting of fate points nor pity can happen. You just tried and not lucky enough to get an early 5 star.
im just really excited for this banner despite the negativity and community worry, im a newer player (playing for about a year) and excited to try to snipe some older characters that i missed their rerun of since then or just outright hasnt rerun, i want hu tao, homa, and yelan from a liyue regional version of this banner!!
Yelan and Hu Tao will not appear on this banner what are y’all smoking. Do you really think Hoyoverse will be that generous. Ask yourselves this, why isn’t Venti on this banner?
@@milkteabun The only difference there is that he'd be more likely to be on that banner than two of the most played characters (Yelan and Hu Tao), lmao.
If the banner lasts longer than a patch. Like this one being from 4.5 to 4.7 or 4.8 then the fate point isn't a big deal since you have time to save enough wishes to reach pity again. As of right now the only characters eligible to be on here are like Ganyu and Kokomi since every other character has either had a recent rerun or haven't had three banners yet so they might keep this banner around until more characters are eligible
Hot take, the reason this banner system is so bad is because hoyverse wants something to fix\improve upon later to show they are doing something, basically buying time. This banner is not worth it unless you have 180 wishes to guarantee something(like you said), and nothing for this first one is too crazy. The only 2 ways I could see this being useful consistently is if they put archons on it, or if you ignored the weapon banner for a long time and just want decent\good weapons than its fine.
This is awesome for me! Itto, Albedo and Chiori (obviously) are the only characters I am missing and this is finally my opportunity to seal the deal and reach my goal of owning every character. Hoping for some good luck on this banner, best of luck to everyone else’s pulls too!
A side note: they announced the pools in the banner and the 4 star character only has Mondstadt characters in it - so not rate up, but only Mondstadt characters will be available :)
This banner is definitely a win! I’m so excited to see how it changes character pulls and saving. As a compulsive wisher i will have to be smarter. Thank you Eakes for the great video
As a compulsive wisher this straight up hurts you basically unless you have 180 fates at the ready just ignore these banners which means your gonna have to cut back your summons to about 2/3 of what you used to summon plus if there’s a character you reallly reallly want you have to have 180 fates or else your just gonna waste months of grinding for virtually nothing so be extremely careful because if you summon on one of these banners while not being full ready MONTHS of progress will literally go down the drain….. and it’s not like genshin is giving you any more wishes than they have been this whole time
@@goten3965realistically you’ll only need around 140-150 be cause of soft pity, maybe even less if you get lucky, and being a compulsive wisher doesn’t make the banner bad, that’s on you if you can’t save for a character you want. Personally, I see it as a net positive because if you think it’s bad, don’t wish on it. Simple. For those who want to, it gives you the chance to get characters who pretty much never get reruns and not have to wait over a year for them to come back. It’s also a better weapon, and allows people to get standard characters they want but haven’t gotten. I played since launch and didn’t get my first keqing until 3.0. Not only that but you can lose to a limited weapon or character which is definitely better than getting you 12 qiqi lmao. The only issue I see with it is the fact that it doesn’t stay for the whole patch, which is so incredibly stupid.
Honestly if anyone is confused or worried about the Chronicled Wish Banner, I'm gonna send them to this video of yours. I've watched a bunch of videos on the subject and frankly, you covered it all so clearly: how it works, what's great about it, what's not so great, and a caring message of warning on how to not fall prey to their money grabbing scheme around the fate point system. I love the little editing touches with paimon and the speech bubbles/signs, the sound effects, all that jazz. Tell your editor they did a fantastic job! Knocked this one out of the park!
Great presentation of the important info and a great take on the system overall. Appreciate your balance of level-headed critical thinking while still being excited. Cheers!
As someone who really wants Klee, I’m pumped. Would’ve pulled for anyway if she had a banner so now the 50/50 loss potential is more exciting. And I’m more excited to get any 4 star vs just the rate up ones. So I’m into it
You hit the nail on the head about wishing on this banner , ONLY do it if you have 160 fates minimum. even if you're REALLY unlucky and go that far before getting your second 5 star, you'll be able to get 20 fates before the banner ends just through dailies/events.
@@Erloys600790 fates only guarantees a 5 star not the one you wanted. You can lose and get a random one instead then you'l get a fate point which wont stick around if you dont use it this banner.
@@Necrochaosium yes i know, but 90 fate garantees that the 5 star is one of the banner so if u want any character of the banner, go with 90 wish is okay ( because lost a 50/50 in a character u want is good too)
7:55 That is exactly what happened to me back then, I was trying to get Staff of Homa, but ended up getting Aqua Simulacra on my 66th pull, then I did another 64 pulls and got another Aqua Simulacra. I did my last 12 Wishes after that, of course, I didn’t get it, and didn’t have enough to make it to hard pity. Chronicled Wish has some benefits, but I think it’s pretty bad so far, except for the people who really want those characters or weapons. Would be better if they made it permanent with a rotating selection, but also carried over the Fate Point. Maybe even make the normal weapon banner also only need 1 Fate Point, and carry it over.
This has definitely been the most fair review I've seen on this banner. Nothing Genshin does will benefit every single player, but the hate this banner gets is just ridiculous and is exposing a lot of peoples' selfishness.
Agree with the points you made! I'm also curious to see what future iterations of this banner will look like, could get some really interesting characters on there!
the con is more on the side of the weapon banner bec it's 90 pity, not a 75-25, and the FP doesnt carry over. On the character side it's just the fate point. If there is a character that you really want to pull, even if it's on the limited banner, you should always have 180 fates anyway. As a new player, am just so happy that I'd be able to get the older characters that I really want sooner.
There is one more con no one talks about. Pity is not shared with character banners. You can spend all the 120 pulls you have on the character banner, lose, think it's fine because you can continue on the rerun and then character appears on the Chronicled banner next but you now can't use those 120 pulls that carried over and need another 160 which you don't have yet to safely use that banner so you're forced to skip. Then you either wait another year for the character's next banner or more likely, you stopped playing and quit before ever getting there.
I‘d wish for some long-time player, that you could choose wether you want to include characters+weapons if you lose the 50:50…. I mean, the person has all the characters except for Mona. And from the weapons, he/she don‘t really have a lot of 5*. In this case, it‘s sucks to lose to the character only…
The reason people are so divided on this banner is that how good it is depends on what your mentality is when wishing on something. If there's that one weapon / character you really want and will keep saving / rolling until you get it, then chronicled wish is better. If you're the type of person who just rolls to see who you get then the the chronicled wish is worse since you can't carry pity over and in the case of the weapon portion, the chances of getting a good weapon to lose 50/50 to is lower. Me personally, I'm the type who keeps rolling on weapons until I get it and I almost always lose the 75/25 and have to go full epitomized path to get the weapon I want so this chronicled wish is a godsend.
This banner loved me. I have been saving for Albedo for a LOOOONG time. Also; I have NEVER pulled Kaeya. I also had to wait way to long for Diluc. I charted Albedo; got Kaeya[c5](plus a few others). At 74 pity Diluc[c3] came home, then in the next ten pull I got Albedo. I even took a chance and pulled for Wolf's Gravestone, got that and Eula's weapon(was hoping to get Aquila Favonia). All that was for just over 160 pulls. 4/5 is pretty good I'd say.
Yes, i can finally get me c1 Dehya so she can finally be a monster. I have c0 f2p Dehya and i want to be the best c0 dehya in the world. Im spending my whole life in vorukasha glow domain. Currently she can do 20-26k Punch since she can finally vaporize with furina and don't say anything okay you cannot play huo tao and diluc without yelan or xinchewy. I don't have dehya weapon btw.
TLDR of the banner I think is that if there is a character on it that you really really want and are willing to save up 160 wishes go ahead. Same for weapons. If you want to be smart with your primos though, don't pull on this weapon banner. Only pull on "regular" weapon banners that have 2 weapons that you are happy to get, go to one pity and leave. You save a ten pull on average and are far more likely to avoid a brick pull. Even if you do hit the unlucky 25% it at least carries over into the next banner, where you're now guaranteed to get a rate up. Again, wait until the next time the weapon banner has two rate ups you're good with. Characters are not tied to their weapons in this game and it's far more fun to get new characters. Universal 5* weapons are great for overall power across your account though, so keep that in mind.
This has been my most expensive patch ever. 300 wishes to get myself a Redhorn Stonethresher for my C6 Dori and to get myself C6 Klee. I am very pleased with these banners, even if I might be the minority...and as you said with weapons, if Staff of Homa ever drops on this thing I'm 100% gonna grab a copy.
The Chronicle wish is a Regional Banner where each chronicle wish is based off a certain region, in this situation it’s a Mondstadt Region banner, it’s most likely that in 4.6 it will be Liyue Themed and may have Shenhe and Ganyu for ovious reasons since they just got new skins
Shenhe doesn’t even qualify for this banner yet. I think this mondstat rendition will be here for a while because right now only Ganyu, Hu Tao, and Zhongli qualify, and I don’t see them realistically ever putting an archon here.
I was very skeptical about this banner at first, but I realized that I can get a weapon I really want without needing to lose 50:50 twice, only once is really nice. I hope they add staff of homa to the banner eventually!
Finally a new banner system that I think will get rid of the drama of not getting the character you wanted and stop the greed. I love the limited special character banners I got Yae Miko with 10wishes and over threw Raiden Shogun Vision Hunt Decree and I am the new sheriff in Imazuma and Imazuma is a free nation once again with a wild west theme.
I am saving up for Dehya since, if the chronicle banner will indeed feature standard characters we can pick, and if the banner will rotate, I will need to wait for it to feature Sumeru characters, which gives me plenty of time. I should be able to save up enough to cover a "hard guarantee" (180 - 200 fates, enough fates to cover the 50-50 win or loss)
I looked up this video cause I forgot this banner existed and was very confused about the claims that it'll come back. Turns out I just didn't wish cause I didn't want any of the 5 stars, lol
I made a comment on another video earlier today about this topic, and we pretty much made the same points. All in all I agree with the take that it's good for the game and that you should only pull if you have enough wishes to guarantee 2 5 stars. I would also like to mention that if you don't have enough to guarantee 2 5 stars, let's say you have 130 pulls. You can technically do 40 pulls and if you get a 5 star in those 40 pulls, then you have enough pulls left to get the 2nd 5 star that you wanted, and if you don't get a 5 star, then you can stop pulling and have 40 pity for the next time a character you want is on Chronicled wish. Of course this risks wasting primos on the wrong banner that you might need for the limited banner down the line, but it is an option if you really want a character. And if you don't like the new banner, just don't pull on it.
Tbh, in this update I just want Itto bc I love his dessing but i'm planning using this new banner bc i'm kinda new so having a 5 stars is pretty useful to me (´ . .̫ . `)
I'm glad we finally have a way to guarantee some characters. Sure it's expensive, but at least you can finally get those standard banner 5*s you never could and/or signature weapons. Hoyo would never make a guarantee cheap, and I think this is the best we're going to get.
I'm am so thankful I wished on this banner. Yes, I am f2p, and yes, I didn't have enough pulls. But I did win my 50/50 for albedo. I am very thankful to have my favorite character. Even if it kinda waisted my pulls because I won't get them on limited. I'm not saying this is a good banner because you, of course, could just wait for your favorite characters' banner to come back out, but I was impatient.
My hope is that they cycle the CWB every six weeks so a new set of six characters appear with each full patch. I also hope they'll modify it so the fate point carries over. Do those two things and I think it's fine. Yes, there is room for improvement in other areas, but do these two things and I'll pull on it.
Honestly people were complaining but it's literally just a regular 50/50 but if it has great 5 stars, all of which you want, there is literally no downside. Basically if you want only 1 character on there, just chart and go for them normally as you would the limited. If you want multiple characters on the list, it is quite literally the best to go for. The only difference is you should NOT use this banner if you aren't 100% sure you can get 2 5-stars as the chart doesn't carry over.
i cant wait for chiori i got guaranteed and this is like second time when i prefarmed all the materials for lvl 90 and talents. + albedo in the chronicle wish is just like a dream for me :d
Ive always pulled secretly want ing to lose 5050 to diluc's c6. Im at c4 but you bet your arse im going for that c6 and r1. Im only pulling for 5 star supports i need after this. I love diluc and childes gameplay. So much fun.
That's really the least of this banner's problems. A lot of people can't even get many normal fates anymore aside from the monthly shop reset. Getting to 90 pulls that way would take 18 months...
123 wishes saving for arlechino, told my friends i want eula and they said u suould go for it spent all and got 1 diluc and 75 puty with a guaranteed desperately farming primos everyday to get her
The banner sounds good until you consider fate points. It can and will be a trap just like the weapon banner. Important to be happy with all choice available if you are FTP or a low spender because if RNG isn't with you, you may not have enough to even pull to use that fate point you just earned. If the fate point carried over, the banner would be amazing.
I’ve got exactly 22,500 primos right now. So I been saving I’m super hyper for 4.5 v2. I’m almost certainly going to be busting out my wallet for Tighnari’s signature weapon though. He’s my fav character, but I also gotta get kazuha and Neuvi lol. So yeah I highly doubt I will have saved enough to pull 3 5 stars. If I win 3 50/50s in a row then maybe 😂
I am very curious how the Liyue/Inazuma banners will look. Am I wrong for thinking the Inazuma weapon banner may be cracked? Mistsplitter, Redhorn, Engulfing, Freedom Sworn, Haran, Kagura's. Even if just half of these weapons are on the banner I think a lot of players would be happy to pull on it.
i think they kinda shot themselves in leg with these fate points because why do i need to hoard so much primo on this banner if hoyo decided to make 4.5 second banner a true massacre with neuvillette and kazuha
In my opinion, one point which you missed in this video is the timing of the banner. Dropping it during the filler patch which doesn't provide lot of primos and then pairing it up with Banners of Kazhua and Nuvi is the real ass move done by Genshin. Also besides the leaks of Arlecchino in version 4.6, patterns suggest that Archons usually rerun in .6 patch that means Furina's rerun will be in 4.6. If you pair this with the fact that they haven't communicated the chronicled wish rerun patterns (they did mention that it will appear from time to time 😒) that means it's going to create more FOMO in the users who genuinely want to get the certain character such as Klee or Eula. This sucks since it's going to make people to spend actual money on the game. That's why in my opinion it's better to skip this banner for at least 2 to 3 reruns to check whether it's worth it to pull on this banner going forward. It will actually be a good banner if they put Ayaka, Hu Tao, Childe and Kokomi in this banners. Appreciate the Video 👌
There’s never going to be a “good time” to run old characters. So wait until characters like Arlecchino and Furina run? This is still objectively better than not running these characters at all. This is simply giving you more options, the intent was never to hand you more characters.
@@laurenblankenship128 This is subjective to who you want on your account and my comment was specifically for this banner. Considering 50% of units in this banner are standard banner unit that means losing 50/50 have 50% chance of getting the standard unit. For weapons it’s even worst than that. For older units they could’ve added the criteria that unit who had 3-5 reruns will be available to purchase from star glitter shop permanently that would’ve made a strong argument for people to save the star glitter and use it for the character that they want but putting it on the banner with the same primogems currency with better units also running in the same period is a SCAM in my opinion. If banner changes next time with characters such as Hu Tao , yelan , kokomi, Ayaka, Ayato and Shenha then I can say it’s worth pulling on this banner since even if you lose you are guaranteed to get a limited 5 star.
@@aksman100you always have a 50% chance of getting a standard character. You have a zero percent chance of losing a 50/50 on another limited character on the event banners. It's literally not a scam. If you don't want any of the characters pretend the banner isn't there, it's that easy.
My hot take is this new banner is *perfect* for new players. Gives them a chance to pull for older characters which may suit their playstyle. I'd be happy to have klee or eula would be good by chance, despite not being a fan of their kits But yes, the mechanics scream primo scam
Is beacon (and hunter's path) gonna stay in this banner for every single rotation? Since they're standard 5 stars characters' weapons and the only thing that will change is the limited 5 star lineup, with corresponding weapons, are they gonna stay there no matter what?
I think it is fantastic. The fate point is lame, but everything has a downside to it. The only people who are upset about this are either entitled and just want free stuff, have a gambling addiction, or just want to be mad. I think it is great. More ways to get specific characters/weapons is always a plus. For example, if I get Neuvi early on my catalysts only account I might go for Klee if I have enough wishes left to guarantee. The 1 in 5 chance of getting Mona on the 50/50 loss is better than the 1 in 7 I'd typically get as well.
I CAN FINALLY GET DILUC AFTER ALL THIS TIME LETS GOOO
I have heard so many want him, i just started mid last Nahida banner, and got him 4 wishes in
@@rykerfros4669 Good for you, but I don't get why'd you even point this out, flexing? It's luck so I don't see how it'd be flexing
@@Iudd_that’s the only reason he pointed it out. We don’t care that you got Diluc bro
I lost my 50/50 and got him too many times
SAME🔥🔥🔥🔥
Good video. Very concise on a subject a lot of CC's have stumble on covering, including a few posting one video on one side (favorable) and then deleting it and posting a version with the opposite view. You clearly show both the positive and negative. Proper warnings plus what the positives of it are. Again, good video!
Can't wait to see how this system grows! Getting more chances to get older/less loved characters is a dub in my book.
The banners suck
This banner total BS
@@aryangupta10csn56wait until archon come on this banner 💀
The banner is great imo. If there is no character that you want to pull ,you can check on this for a chance.
Im currently waiting for Yelan on this ngl
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Great breakdown! I am actually excited about the new banner and the future possibilities. Staying optimistic!
Was finally able to get Mona. She was the only original 5* that isn't limited to that I never could get
Eakes bringing us the freshest information! Thanks man, this was well explained, I am not reading allat in the game
Jeaaaan. I'll finally have you come homeee! ❤
Tip for pulling on this banner:
NEVER drop below 90 wishes. As long as you have 90 wishes left, you can pull on this banner hoping for an early.
If you get an early, but lose the 50/50 then put the remaining 90 to guarantee your chosen 5-star. If you don't get early, then stop pulling & pity carries over.
You'll never lose your Fate Point if you keep 90 wishes in reserves. (14,400 primos)
Too much risk, you might lose 50/50 early and not have enough to primos left to guarantee. You should only pull if you have 180 wishes ready, otherwise you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
@@FunkyEspelhoCat That's why you KEEP 90. If you have 115 wishes, make 25 pulls (bringing you down to 90) and then get a 5-star but lose 50/50, that means you have the 90 left over to get your 5-star still.
As long as you never drop below 90 wishes, you can pull on this banner.
What if the banner goes away before you get any 5*?
@@GarethPierce Like he said you still carry over pity to the next banner so no wasting of fate points nor pity can happen. You just tried and not lucky enough to get an early 5 star.
@@FunkyEspelhoCat 180 is excessive. 160 is enough
Very helpful, thanks man, appreciated this video. Thanks for making :)
im just really excited for this banner despite the negativity and community worry, im a newer player (playing for about a year) and excited to try to snipe some older characters that i missed their rerun of since then or just outright hasnt rerun, i want hu tao, homa, and yelan from a liyue regional version of this banner!!
Same, it's better than pulling on a limited banner with bad rate-up 4 stars just to lose to the same old standard 5 stars (QIQI)
Yep, no one gonna stop me from pulling for Yelan if she appear on this
Yelan and Hu Tao will not appear on this banner what are y’all smoking. Do you really think Hoyoverse will be that generous. Ask yourselves this, why isn’t Venti on this banner?
@@ASkilledTactician he’s an archon its pretty different than hu tao and yelan lol
@@milkteabun The only difference there is that he'd be more likely to be on that banner than two of the most played characters (Yelan and Hu Tao), lmao.
Best video that has come out about this banner release. Comprehensive & focused. Lit. You are the man Eakes. Always cheering you on! 🎉🥳
7:55 This happened to me and I wasn't able to get the staff of homeless that banner. It truly lives up to its nickname.
If the banner lasts longer than a patch. Like this one being from 4.5 to 4.7 or 4.8 then the fate point isn't a big deal since you have time to save enough wishes to reach pity again. As of right now the only characters eligible to be on here are like Ganyu and Kokomi since every other character has either had a recent rerun or haven't had three banners yet so they might keep this banner around until more characters are eligible
Hot take, the reason this banner system is so bad is because hoyverse wants something to fix\improve upon later to show they are doing something, basically buying time.
This banner is not worth it unless you have 180 wishes to guarantee something(like you said), and nothing for this first one is too crazy. The only 2 ways I could see this being useful consistently is if they put archons on it, or if you ignored the weapon banner for a long time and just want decent\good weapons than its fine.
Pretty useful for someone like me tho to got those old five-star that I never manage to get. Oh God knows how long since hutao will rerun🗿🗿
I wanted to get Diluc so, so much but they had to go with Kazuha banner right after Chiori. Just my damn luck
This is awesome for me!
Itto, Albedo and Chiori (obviously) are the only characters I am missing and this is finally my opportunity to seal the deal and reach my goal of owning every character.
Hoping for some good luck on this banner, best of luck to everyone else’s pulls too!
Are you a f2p perchance? And gl on gettign them all!
A side note: they announced the pools in the banner and the 4 star character only has Mondstadt characters in it - so not rate up, but only Mondstadt characters will be available :)
You can get Amber, Lisa and Kaeya pretty easily (I saw someone get 2 ambers in less than 50-60 pulls)
I got Lisa and Albedo in 30 pulls let's gooo
This banner is definitely a win! I’m so excited to see how it changes character pulls and saving. As a compulsive wisher i will have to be smarter. Thank you Eakes for the great video
As a compulsive wisher this straight up hurts you basically unless you have 180 fates at the ready just ignore these banners which means your gonna have to cut back your summons to about 2/3 of what you used to summon plus if there’s a character you reallly reallly want you have to have 180 fates or else your just gonna waste months of grinding for virtually nothing so be extremely careful because if you summon on one of these banners while not being full ready MONTHS of progress will literally go down the drain….. and it’s not like genshin is giving you any more wishes than they have been this whole time
@@goten3965realistically you’ll only need around 140-150 be cause of soft pity, maybe even less if you get lucky, and being a compulsive wisher doesn’t make the banner bad, that’s on you if you can’t save for a character you want. Personally, I see it as a net positive because if you think it’s bad, don’t wish on it. Simple. For those who want to, it gives you the chance to get characters who pretty much never get reruns and not have to wait over a year for them to come back. It’s also a better weapon, and allows people to get standard characters they want but haven’t gotten. I played since launch and didn’t get my first keqing until 3.0. Not only that but you can lose to a limited weapon or character which is definitely better than getting you 12 qiqi lmao. The only issue I see with it is the fact that it doesn’t stay for the whole patch, which is so incredibly stupid.
Honestly if anyone is confused or worried about the Chronicled Wish Banner, I'm gonna send them to this video of yours. I've watched a bunch of videos on the subject and frankly, you covered it all so clearly: how it works, what's great about it, what's not so great, and a caring message of warning on how to not fall prey to their money grabbing scheme around the fate point system. I love the little editing touches with paimon and the speech bubbles/signs, the sound effects, all that jazz. Tell your editor they did a fantastic job! Knocked this one out of the park!
Great presentation of the important info and a great take on the system overall. Appreciate your balance of level-headed critical thinking while still being excited. Cheers!
As someone who really wants Klee, I’m pumped. Would’ve pulled for anyway if she had a banner so now the 50/50 loss potential is more exciting. And I’m more excited to get any 4 star vs just the rate up ones. So I’m into it
You hit the nail on the head about wishing on this banner , ONLY do it if you have 160 fates minimum. even if you're REALLY unlucky and go that far before getting your second 5 star, you'll be able to get 20 fates before the banner ends just through dailies/events.
or if u had 90 fates and u want any character of the banner
@@Erloys600790 fates only guarantees a 5 star not the one you wanted. You can lose and get a random one instead then you'l get a fate point which wont stick around if you dont use it this banner.
@@Necrochaosium yes i know,
but 90 fate garantees that the 5 star is one of the banner so if u want any character of the banner, go with 90 wish is okay ( because lost a 50/50 in a character u want is good too)
@@Erloys6007yeah true if you're ok with losing to one of the other 5 stars thats fine
Honestly it’s a good option to have and if you plan how you use your primos and what characters you want to spend on it’s a very good option
Gratz on the 50k subs man, you’ve earned it. Here’s to another 50k more and counting.
7:55 That is exactly what happened to me back then, I was trying to get Staff of Homa, but ended up getting Aqua Simulacra on my 66th pull, then I did another 64 pulls and got another Aqua Simulacra. I did my last 12 Wishes after that, of course, I didn’t get it, and didn’t have enough to make it to hard pity.
Chronicled Wish has some benefits, but I think it’s pretty bad so far, except for the people who really want those characters or weapons. Would be better if they made it permanent with a rotating selection, but also carried over the Fate Point. Maybe even make the normal weapon banner also only need 1 Fate Point, and carry it over.
Eakes dude, you're my hero. You're my favorite Genshin content creator. Bless this channel fr
This has definitely been the most fair review I've seen on this banner. Nothing Genshin does will benefit every single player, but the hate this banner gets is just ridiculous and is exposing a lot of peoples' selfishness.
Agree with the points you made! I'm also curious to see what future iterations of this banner will look like, could get some really interesting characters on there!
the con is more on the side of the weapon banner bec it's 90 pity, not a 75-25, and the FP doesnt carry over. On the character side it's just the fate point. If there is a character that you really want to pull, even if it's on the limited banner, you should always have 180 fates anyway.
As a new player, am just so happy that I'd be able to get the older characters that I really want sooner.
Thanks, Keep up the good work 🎉
There is one more con no one talks about.
Pity is not shared with character banners.
You can spend all the 120 pulls you have on the character banner, lose, think it's fine because you can continue on the rerun and then character appears on the Chronicled banner next but you now can't use those 120 pulls that carried over and need another 160 which you don't have yet to safely use that banner so you're forced to skip.
Then you either wait another year for the character's next banner or more likely, you stopped playing and quit before ever getting there.
I‘d wish for some long-time player, that you could choose wether you want to include characters+weapons if you lose the 50:50…. I mean, the person has all the characters except for Mona. And from the weapons, he/she don‘t really have a lot of 5*.
In this case, it‘s sucks to lose to the character only…
But yeah, Hoyo never lets us get flexible.
The reason people are so divided on this banner is that how good it is depends on what your mentality is when wishing on something. If there's that one weapon / character you really want and will keep saving / rolling until you get it, then chronicled wish is better. If you're the type of person who just rolls to see who you get then the the chronicled wish is worse since you can't carry pity over and in the case of the weapon portion, the chances of getting a good weapon to lose 50/50 to is lower. Me personally, I'm the type who keeps rolling on weapons until I get it and I almost always lose the 75/25 and have to go full epitomized path to get the weapon I want so this chronicled wish is a godsend.
This banner loved me. I have been saving for Albedo for a LOOOONG time. Also; I have NEVER pulled Kaeya. I also had to wait way to long for Diluc. I charted Albedo; got Kaeya[c5](plus a few others). At 74 pity Diluc[c3] came home, then in the next ten pull I got Albedo. I even took a chance and pulled for Wolf's Gravestone, got that and Eula's weapon(was hoping to get Aquila Favonia). All that was for just over 160 pulls. 4/5 is pretty good I'd say.
Yes, i can finally get me c1 Dehya so she can finally be a monster. I have c0 f2p Dehya and i want to be the best c0 dehya in the world. Im spending my whole life in vorukasha glow domain. Currently she can do 20-26k Punch since she can finally vaporize with furina and don't say anything okay you cannot play huo tao and diluc without yelan or xinchewy. I don't have dehya weapon btw.
Sorry to dissapoint you but dehya isn't on the banner :(
@@WiffleWaffIe if her weapon is there she's going to be there trust.
TLDR of the banner I think is that if there is a character on it that you really really want and are willing to save up 160 wishes go ahead. Same for weapons. If you want to be smart with your primos though, don't pull on this weapon banner. Only pull on "regular" weapon banners that have 2 weapons that you are happy to get, go to one pity and leave. You save a ten pull on average and are far more likely to avoid a brick pull. Even if you do hit the unlucky 25% it at least carries over into the next banner, where you're now guaranteed to get a rate up. Again, wait until the next time the weapon banner has two rate ups you're good with. Characters are not tied to their weapons in this game and it's far more fun to get new characters. Universal 5* weapons are great for overall power across your account though, so keep that in mind.
This has been my most expensive patch ever. 300 wishes to get myself a Redhorn Stonethresher for my C6 Dori and to get myself C6 Klee.
I am very pleased with these banners, even if I might be the minority...and as you said with weapons, if Staff of Homa ever drops on this thing I'm 100% gonna grab a copy.
I love that you gave the 180 (more like 160) wish "requirement" to guarantee you get the 5* you want. Saved me some maths :)
The Chronicle wish is a Regional Banner where each chronicle wish is based off a certain region, in this situation it’s a Mondstadt Region banner, it’s most likely that in 4.6 it will be Liyue Themed and may have Shenhe and Ganyu for ovious reasons since they just got new skins
Shenhe doesn’t even qualify for this banner yet. I think this mondstat rendition will be here for a while because right now only Ganyu, Hu Tao, and Zhongli qualify, and I don’t see them realistically ever putting an archon here.
Great vid!! Thanks Eakes
Thanks a lot. Nobody can say you didn`t tell them. And congrats for the 50k.
I was very skeptical about this banner at first, but I realized that I can get a weapon I really want without needing to lose 50:50 twice, only once is really nice. I hope they add staff of homa to the banner eventually!
Love you Eakes you’re the goat
Finally a new banner system that I think will get rid of the drama of not getting the character you wanted and stop the greed. I love the limited special character banners I got Yae Miko with 10wishes and over threw Raiden Shogun Vision Hunt Decree and I am the new sheriff in Imazuma and Imazuma is a free nation once again with a wild west theme.
I am saving up for Dehya since, if the chronicle banner will indeed feature standard characters we can pick, and if the banner will rotate, I will need to wait for it to feature Sumeru characters, which gives me plenty of time. I should be able to save up enough to cover a "hard guarantee" (180 - 200 fates, enough fates to cover the 50-50 win or loss)
So my strat is a good one? Sweet! :)
I looked up this video cause I forgot this banner existed and was very confused about the claims that it'll come back. Turns out I just didn't wish cause I didn't want any of the 5 stars, lol
Why does Lumine with glasses kinda got me 🥴
I made a comment on another video earlier today about this topic, and we pretty much made the same points. All in all I agree with the take that it's good for the game and that you should only pull if you have enough wishes to guarantee 2 5 stars.
I would also like to mention that if you don't have enough to guarantee 2 5 stars, let's say you have 130 pulls. You can technically do 40 pulls and if you get a 5 star in those 40 pulls, then you have enough pulls left to get the 2nd 5 star that you wanted, and if you don't get a 5 star, then you can stop pulling and have 40 pity for the next time a character you want is on Chronicled wish. Of course this risks wasting primos on the wrong banner that you might need for the limited banner down the line, but it is an option if you really want a character.
And if you don't like the new banner, just don't pull on it.
Your explaining just in points , thanx alot you helped me very well
Ok but the Liyue version of this banner is gonna go insane
Can't wait to get a Qiqi
This doesn’t stop me I’m going for Eula c3 and her song of broken pines
What a great and helpful video from the goat
Tbh, in this update I just want Itto bc I love his dessing but i'm planning using this new banner bc i'm kinda new so having a 5 stars is pretty useful to me (´ . .̫ . `)
Very excited for this banner. Because I can finally get my Diluc after almost 2 years of playing
I will not wish on the chro...banner in 4.5 but I will in 4.6 cuz in 4.6 I think ganyu is coming
me who pulled on this banner with only 46 wishes and got dilucs weapon on pity 30 :') im very irresponsible lmao but now happy
You forgot to mention that not only the pity on the weapon banner is better but the odds are also better (0.7% vs 0.6% and soft pity odds are better)
Does it share pity with the limited banner though?
I'm glad we finally have a way to guarantee some characters. Sure it's expensive, but at least you can finally get those standard banner 5*s you never could and/or signature weapons.
Hoyo would never make a guarantee cheap, and I think this is the best we're going to get.
Great vibes as usual
Me who wanted to attempt a 50/50 on Albedo and can’t do that anymore 😂
I'm am so thankful I wished on this banner. Yes, I am f2p, and yes, I didn't have enough pulls. But I did win my 50/50 for albedo. I am very thankful to have my favorite character. Even if it kinda waisted my pulls because I won't get them on limited. I'm not saying this is a good banner because you, of course, could just wait for your favorite characters' banner to come back out, but I was impatient.
My hope is that they cycle the CWB every six weeks so a new set of six characters appear with each full patch. I also hope they'll modify it so the fate point carries over. Do those two things and I think it's fine. Yes, there is room for improvement in other areas, but do these two things and I'll pull on it.
Honestly people were complaining but it's literally just a regular 50/50 but if it has great 5 stars, all of which you want, there is literally no downside. Basically if you want only 1 character on there, just chart and go for them normally as you would the limited. If you want multiple characters on the list, it is quite literally the best to go for. The only difference is you should NOT use this banner if you aren't 100% sure you can get 2 5-stars as the chart doesn't carry over.
Chronicled wish slays, great breakdown of the pros and cons!!
Small correction, its only monstadt 4 star characters on this banner I believe
The banner was lucky for me at first got my desired weapon within 10 pity. but now 83 pity in still no 5 star. They really be taking me to 90 pity.
i cant wait for chiori i got guaranteed and this is like second time when i prefarmed all the materials for lvl 90 and talents. + albedo in the chronicle wish is just like a dream for me :d
Very good take on the new banner. Thank You!
Great breakdown for the new banner. Useful information.
I wonder if all of these will end up with 3 standard and 3 limited 👀
Ive always pulled secretly want ing to lose 5050 to diluc's c6. Im at c4 but you bet your arse im going for that c6 and r1. Im only pulling for 5 star supports i need after this. I love diluc and childes gameplay. So much fun.
If it has every kind of weapon it will be good as it only need 1 fate point
I had t scrounge enough pulls to lose to jean, and getting e ula again, AND THEN pulling for kaazu next banner
If this will finally get me wolfs gravestone I'll take it 🤣🤣
TLDR if you have 180 wishes, summoning on chronicled banners is basically always going to be a better value than event wish.
im a new player here AR30 , I havnt wish yet, im enjoying kaeya. 😂
This system is such torture, why not atleast let u use the normal fate wishes....why so stingy hoyo
That's really the least of this banner's problems. A lot of people can't even get many normal fates anymore aside from the monthly shop reset. Getting to 90 pulls that way would take 18 months...
123 wishes saving for arlechino, told my friends i want eula and they said u suould go for it spent all and got 1 diluc and 75 puty with a guaranteed desperately farming primos everyday to get her
I lost my 50/50 when i was going for Albedo and got c7 jean. 25 starglitter is not worth this loss 😭
Waiting for Keqing to appear in the chronicled banner. I already have C2 on every other 5* standard character and still no Keqing😢
The banner sounds good until you consider fate points. It can and will be a trap just like the weapon banner. Important to be happy with all choice available if you are FTP or a low spender because if RNG isn't with you, you may not have enough to even pull to use that fate point you just earned. If the fate point carried over, the banner would be amazing.
You gotta save a bunch of wishes is just what it is
I’ve got exactly 22,500 primos right now. So I been saving I’m super hyper for 4.5 v2. I’m almost certainly going to be busting out my wallet for Tighnari’s signature weapon though. He’s my fav character, but I also gotta get kazuha and Neuvi lol. So yeah I highly doubt I will have saved enough to pull 3 5 stars. If I win 3 50/50s in a row then maybe 😂
I am very curious how the Liyue/Inazuma banners will look. Am I wrong for thinking the Inazuma weapon banner may be cracked? Mistsplitter, Redhorn, Engulfing, Freedom Sworn, Haran, Kagura's. Even if just half of these weapons are on the banner I think a lot of players would be happy to pull on it.
I wanted to get Hunter's path so I saved a bit but I had very little expectations... Buuuuuuut I got Hunter's path on my 15th pull ❤
Got a lot of useless 4* weapons but... also got klee and eula within 100 wishes i was saving, best banner
i think they kinda shot themselves in leg with these fate points because why do i need to hoard so much primo on this banner if hoyo decided to make 4.5 second banner a true massacre with neuvillette and kazuha
In my opinion, one point which you missed in this video is the timing of the banner. Dropping it during the filler patch which doesn't provide lot of primos and then pairing it up with Banners of Kazhua and Nuvi is the real ass move done by Genshin. Also besides the leaks of Arlecchino in version 4.6, patterns suggest that Archons usually rerun in .6 patch that means Furina's rerun will be in 4.6. If you pair this with the fact that they haven't communicated the chronicled wish rerun patterns (they did mention that it will appear from time to time 😒) that means it's going to create more FOMO in the users who genuinely want to get the certain character such as Klee or Eula. This sucks since it's going to make people to spend actual money on the game.
That's why in my opinion it's better to skip this banner for at least 2 to 3 reruns to check whether it's worth it to pull on this banner going forward. It will actually be a good banner if they put Ayaka, Hu Tao, Childe and Kokomi in this banners. Appreciate the Video 👌
There’s never going to be a “good time” to run old characters. So wait until characters like Arlecchino and Furina run? This is still objectively better than not running these characters at all. This is simply giving you more options, the intent was never to hand you more characters.
@@laurenblankenship128 This is subjective to who you want on your account and my comment was specifically for this banner. Considering 50% of units in this banner are standard banner unit that means losing 50/50 have 50% chance of getting the standard unit. For weapons it’s even worst than that. For older units they could’ve added the criteria that unit who had 3-5 reruns will be available to purchase from star glitter shop permanently that would’ve made a strong argument for people to save the star glitter and use it for the character that they want but putting it on the banner with the same primogems currency with better units also running in the same period is a SCAM in my opinion. If banner changes next time with characters such as Hu Tao , yelan , kokomi, Ayaka, Ayato and Shenha then I can say it’s worth pulling on this banner since even if you lose you are guaranteed to get a limited 5 star.
@@aksman100you always have a 50% chance of getting a standard character. You have a zero percent chance of losing a 50/50 on another limited character on the event banners. It's literally not a scam. If you don't want any of the characters pretend the banner isn't there, it's that easy.
@@laurenblankenship128 and that what I am gonna do. Good luck wishing on this new banner.
My hot take is this new banner is *perfect* for new players. Gives them a chance to pull for older characters which may suit their playstyle. I'd be happy to have klee or eula would be good by chance, despite not being a fan of their kits
But yes, the mechanics scream primo scam
I NEED HUNTERS PATH
I have lost every 50 50 to jean.
I have her at c5. This might be my time to make it c6.
People can say what they want but im pulling for eula and her weapon 🎉
Thank god now it makes sense
Love it. Thx for thr help
I always dreamed of c6 eula, haha my primos will keep that as a dream (I saved 110 wishes, idk if it's even enough for a weapon on this new banner)
great banner. Finally, i got Albedo.
Is beacon (and hunter's path) gonna stay in this banner for every single rotation? Since they're standard 5 stars characters' weapons and the only thing that will change is the limited 5 star lineup, with corresponding weapons, are they gonna stay there no matter what?
waiting for liyue banner to get my keqing (and maybe qiqi too but we'll see)
Thanks for your wise words of wisdom ❤
I think it is fantastic. The fate point is lame, but everything has a downside to it. The only people who are upset about this are either entitled and just want free stuff, have a gambling addiction, or just want to be mad. I think it is great. More ways to get specific characters/weapons is always a plus. For example, if I get Neuvi early on my catalysts only account I might go for Klee if I have enough wishes left to guarantee. The 1 in 5 chance of getting Mona on the 50/50 loss is better than the 1 in 7 I'd typically get as well.