Three archers in the must max looks great on paper. They are very tempting. However, newer players should note that 90% of the time, these are the first marches targeted in a ball setting, and running away is very difficult. You have to time it perfectly or you will sad face almost every time. That is the allure and trap that is the archer meta. The promise of huge gains but often the realty of huge hospital bills and bad reports. 😂
Thanks you for putting Beli P where he belongs. Fun fact; taking nevsky out of your line up for Beli P actively decreases your 5 march damage output while swarming by 15%.
Hermann prime, Scipio prime atp, Joan prime and Ww are the best options imo. Ragnar is fine at 5515, but I think Arthur, Liu Che, Huo, Zhuge and Ragnar should be expertised
For Context, the difference between Expertise ZL and Non Exp ZL is whether you care to do the extra proc damage sooner in combat or no. Without the Exp, you have to proc your active skill twice to activate the extra DPS as you need to use an active skill to get into the Marquis effect. And if you are EXP, you just need it to proc once, as you will get the Marquis effect as soon as you enter in combat. TLDR; Exp ZL offers more damage equals better trades in a short time. So yes Cheez is right when he says that the expertise is worth it.
Doesn't Herman take a huge amount of time to stack 25 poisons? Maybe it works in canyon but how can you possibly stack all that poison in the open field?
hey chisgule great video as always, a video on of trajan is still viable in the field while running 7 marches would be amazing. I’m kinda stuck in that predicament. No rush, I know you’ve got a lot of things to do but thank you.
I believe there is one legendary commander chosen by the developers secretly for each troop type and they will never die in the game: Nevsky for cav, Scipio Prime for inf and Zhuge for archer. You will see in the future...
@emregulsecen ZL definitely has a while left the other 2 not so much one skill damage commander for cav or infantry and scipio and nevsky are no longer in top 2 marches for their respective troop types they're no longer an investment for newer accounts coming in
i just came back to RoK after a year, how do i get Ragnar prime? x) i have no idea how to get him. i swapped so i got huo and arthur expertized, while i have a 5551 ScipioP and Liu >_
So abou to enter my first kvk but i want to save for 2 soc commander 1 being zhuge liang and other one being boudica prime mostly because i think they look really cool but i dont want to grief my account. Is boudica prime still decent?
I quit playing for a long time then when i came back everyone was way stronger. Im not smashing anyone 😂 theres too many commanders and not enough gold heads to invest in them. I spend very little in the game. I dont even have t5 yet and i started playing years ago. It just costs so many gems to upgrade the damn castle and even after that you have to upgrade your tech tree and everything there is going to take a huge amount of speedups
Three archers in the must max looks great on paper. They are very tempting. However, newer players should note that 90% of the time, these are the first marches targeted in a ball setting, and running away is very difficult. You have to time it perfectly or you will sad face almost every time.
That is the allure and trap that is the archer meta. The promise of huge gains but often the realty of huge hospital bills and bad reports. 😂
Now we want a tier list for Canyon
Imagine the commaders after 6 months
Thanks you for putting Beli P where he belongs.
Fun fact; taking nevsky out of your line up for Beli P actively decreases your 5 march damage output while swarming by 15%.
Hermann prime, Scipio prime atp, Joan prime and Ww are the best options imo. Ragnar is fine at 5515, but I think Arthur, Liu Che, Huo, Zhuge and Ragnar should be expertised
07:04 Nevsky released in 2020 😳😳 I think Chis is losing his time sense😅 Guan Yu was released in early 2020 lol. Nevsky was released early 2022
For Context, the difference between Expertise ZL and Non Exp ZL is whether you care to do the extra proc damage sooner in combat or no. Without the Exp, you have to proc your active skill twice to activate the extra DPS as you need to use an active skill to get into the Marquis effect. And if you are EXP, you just need it to proc once, as you will get the Marquis effect as soon as you enter in combat.
TLDR; Exp ZL offers more damage equals better trades in a short time. So yes Cheez is right when he says that the expertise is worth it.
Shargjar was a great investment for me…5111 to stick behind ZL when barb chaining
Chadski getting the torches and pitchforks ready for the Atilla slander.
Doesn't Herman take a huge amount of time to stack 25 poisons?
Maybe it works in canyon but how can you possibly stack all that poison in the open field?
hey chisgule great video as always, a video on of trajan is still viable in the field while running 7 marches would be amazing. I’m kinda stuck in that predicament. No rush, I know you’ve got a lot of things to do but thank you.
Hermann is the most relevant commander as 5551 Chis. The expertise unless you use with Tomy triggers once every year.
damn its like chisgule can read my mind
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beli's expertise is op for a Kingdom a murder ball with 80 beliprime would be INSANE.
Im curious if anyone with hermann has ever gotten his expertise to proc, regardless of how op it might be. It actually seems non existant.
Herman is good to stay at 5551. unless you pair him with tommy (wich isn’t great)
I believe there is one legendary commander chosen by the developers secretly for each troop type and they will never die in the game: Nevsky for cav, Scipio Prime for inf and Zhuge for archer. You will see in the future...
@emregulsecen ZL definitely has a while left the other 2 not so much one skill damage commander for cav or infantry and scipio and nevsky are no longer in top 2 marches for their respective troop types they're no longer an investment for newer accounts coming in
i just came back to RoK after a year, how do i get Ragnar prime? x) i have no idea how to get him. i swapped so i got huo and arthur expertized, while i have a 5551 ScipioP and Liu >_
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Wish Scipio prime was more relevant.
Wouldn't you consider putting WW in safe or risky because if the next release is smite you'd bench him and keep LC especially if you already had Alex?
@@WillofD18 but if you already have Alex the you could be running ww/new commander and LC/alex?
@@Plainwhitenoise you telling you would bench rag/scip, a whole wedge march, to keep ww & alex in field..? 2 single target comms..be honest
@WillofD18 who said you can't run 3 infantry marches? Next inf commander could also be skill again and bench scipio
@WillofD18 also you weren't listening I didn't say ww/Alex I said ww/ new smite and LC/ alex
I just disagree on Herman Prime. Re read his skill and really think about how often that will proc for the cost.
What’s the difference between primary and secondary commander?
Secondary only uses skills. primary uses skills, talents, gear and formations.
Isnt Huo better at 5515??
Yes should be 5551 huo is very conditional and squishier
So abou to enter my first kvk but i want to save for 2 soc commander 1 being zhuge liang and other one being boudica prime mostly because i think they look really cool but i dont want to grief my account. Is boudica prime still decent?
no
Get Hermann prime instead of boudica
She was always terrible I’m afraid
I spent my resources on harald does anyone know a good match for him
Sup Chis
I quit playing for a long time then when i came back everyone was way stronger. Im not smashing anyone 😂 theres too many commanders and not enough gold heads to invest in them. I spend very little in the game. I dont even have t5 yet and i started playing years ago. It just costs so many gems to upgrade the damn castle and even after that you have to upgrade your tech tree and everything there is going to take a huge amount of speedups
I just maxed my huo lol
hey, how about Saladin?
saladin is fine at 5551 but i wouldn’t put ANY sculptures into him
@@viny5955 aw man, my king gonna be sad
@@a.g.k.6835 I invested in saladin over a year ago and I regret it big time
I have William and Saladin but what should I do
@@drOlaf0 depends on your levels for both of them. What are they at
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If you’re investing in a commander that is good at 5551. You better be in a C seed Kingdom. Otherwise you’ll just accumulate hospital bills 😅🤓
Not true in the slightest lmao
So according to you
there's only 2 commanders to 5551😂
I think so.
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