The Apex Legends Tier List (Season 16)

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  • @TheMacroShow
    @TheMacroShow  Рік тому +392

    In retrospect, now that y’all have told me Rampart can show away her ultimate and gain ult charge back, I think she’s easily mid B Tier. But Rev is still in D sorry 😆

    • @EraserTraceur
      @EraserTraceur Рік тому +20

      MACRO my friend i agree with this list, that being said, its not a solo que ranked players list, could you do one of those?
      No offense but im not that guy in ranked who will die with low intelligent team members, i solo que like ALOT of people.
      Your list is good for people communicating, 3 stacking....
      For solo que, speed is your friend, get the hell out.... Get top 5. Steal some kills, stay away from battles....
      Vantage.... S TIER.
      and so on. Thanks please make one! ❤️ Youd be the first
      Rev shot out i thought you'd shot out Revengeful tbh....

    • @alanwiseman3235
      @alanwiseman3235 Рік тому +6

      @@EraserTraceur yesssssssssssh revengeful insane! i wanna get back into the game, but been a while, and im not the best at shooters, metas changed a lot im guessing

    • @stupideguy2.048
      @stupideguy2.048 Рік тому

      And I won’t listen a guy saying the only buff ash needs is her ult cooldown to be faster while her tactical is the real problem. sorry😆

    • @EraserTraceur
      @EraserTraceur Рік тому +1

      @@alanwiseman3235 his list is good revs at bottom
      Lul

    • @alanwiseman3235
      @alanwiseman3235 Рік тому +1

      @@EraserTraceur yeah ik

  • @_soothsayer_
    @_soothsayer_ Рік тому +862

    I remember seeing in the patch notes that seer got a massive nerf this season. To think he's still super powerful afterwards is nuts

    • @pandolam4513
      @pandolam4513 Рік тому +29

      Tbf, after seeing the nerfs to the passive I thought it would take at least 1s for the heartbeat sensor to pop up (it only being useful before a fight) but after seeing it takes like .5s, it was a massive disappointment.

    • @ferdithetank7535
      @ferdithetank7535 Рік тому +59

      That's because he is a fundamentally broken character by design and very unfun to play against. There's little agency over what you could do against his abilities and they still do too much.

    • @Archway_
      @Archway_ Рік тому +12

      As long as he has perma wall hacks it will be that way

    • @Archway_
      @Archway_ Рік тому +1

      As long as he has perma wall hacks it will be that way

    • @OhBbyWhy
      @OhBbyWhy Рік тому +2

      lol, funny season 10 noises

  • @milky6839
    @milky6839 Рік тому +694

    Seer and Catalyst being the best duo is like a watered down version of Loba and Revenant becoming the most OP duo

    • @ferdithetank7535
      @ferdithetank7535 Рік тому +99

      The power of BLM and LGBT combined

    • @Jazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
      @Jazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Рік тому +13

      @@ferdithetank7535 ummm…

    • @ferdithetank7535
      @ferdithetank7535 Рік тому +69

      @@Jazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. that's a joke, but if you think about it, it really is.
      Seer's "lore" is basically BLM, sneakily covered by "the curse" and Catalyst is straight up trans propaganda.

    • @isathefulani
      @isathefulani Рік тому +44

      @@ferdithetank7535 the power of the BLT

    • @SomeInternetBoi
      @SomeInternetBoi Рік тому +79

      @@ferdithetank7535 I don't really know how Catalyst is "trans propaganda".
      Like yeah her being trans is explicitly mentioned in the lore and in her voicelines, but I don't think her character is solely defined by being trans--if anything I'd say it's much more focused around her mystical/witch vibe.

  • @xenoowlx8524
    @xenoowlx8524 Рік тому +272

    In case you didn't know, you don't have to use the entire rampart ult to get it to charge, you can start the cool down at whatever percent it left in the gun by pressing B

    • @Alkaios2099
      @Alkaios2099 Рік тому +18

      I think it’s the “select fire” button

    • @AnoAssassin
      @AnoAssassin Рік тому +7

      Though it will only at max refund 75% cooldown
      If one fires exactly half the bullets in Sheila and then puts it on cooldown, they get 50% cooldown back
      But firing even one bullet and putting it on cooldown puts it at 75%, though at that point it will get back to 100% in no time at all

    • @southecko2172
      @southecko2172 Рік тому +8

      A lot of people don’t seem to know or remember this. TGM is a Rampart main and I never even see him do this.

    • @just_joshing
      @just_joshing Рік тому +6

      @@southecko2172 He def does, I learned it from him

    • @infamous0113
      @infamous0113 Рік тому +1

      Wait I'm console trash how would you do it on a PlayStation? Asking for a friend

  • @TheOneWhoAsked37
    @TheOneWhoAsked37 Рік тому +82

    This Tier list video came back when we needed it the most

  • @TheMacroShow
    @TheMacroShow  Рік тому +380

    Thanks for watching! I’ll make another one of these after 3 more legends drop 😆

  • @hey_there_scout1583
    @hey_there_scout1583 Рік тому +46

    It’s so great to finally see a tier list where I’m surprised by the legend placements

    • @IzayaTijisPrincess
      @IzayaTijisPrincess Рік тому +24

      Because its wrong respectfully

    • @nooptiui
      @nooptiui Рік тому

      @@IzayaTijisPrincess yea this tier list is fucking shit, respectfully

  • @ironviper72
    @ironviper72 Рік тому +155

    Imagine if Lifeline's ultimate was calling down a replicator which could craft almost everything at a discounted price

    • @yxngcartii4623
      @yxngcartii4623 Рік тому +27

      that would be a terrible idea as getting those points in a secluded area without an already spawned replicator is a problem

    • @PandemoniumPirateRadio
      @PandemoniumPirateRadio Рік тому +4

      @@yxngcartii4623 What if the Ult gave the team some crafting material too tho.

    • @rgrcoco6482
      @rgrcoco6482 Рік тому

      What if her ult gave her the ability to have the gold knockdown ability for a duration so when she res a player they can jump in the fight

    • @ASAaslan62
      @ASAaslan62 Рік тому +3

      What if her ult would give me some friends that would be great tbh

    • @Axxxel_in_Harlem
      @Axxxel_in_Harlem Рік тому

      ​@@ASAaslan62 Be a better communicator and you'll get friends in no time.

  • @BOB_983
    @BOB_983 Рік тому +147

    I had this cool idea for a newcastle buff where when he slammed down his ult, the wall would emit a shock wave that stuns, slows, and deals damage to any enemy in the vicinity. This would allow NC to make some crazy aggressive plays while also being a good support legend.

    • @Jeff-nq4hg
      @Jeff-nq4hg Рік тому +15

      Something like Galio ult from LoL or the Gravity Spikes from BO3 would be sick for Newcastle

    • @Roger-yk3ht
      @Roger-yk3ht Рік тому +8

      This already happens a little bit, as if u land directly on a enemy with his ult they get knocked back quite a bit. Its happened to me before and i got yeeted of a building.
      Good idea though, even though Newcastle is good in competitive like ALGS but he has a low pick rate in pub and ranked so its fair to buff him

    • @teejay1646
      @teejay1646 Рік тому +4

      He already can make crazy aggressive plays. The wall has a ridiculous knockback and a stun
      I know Macro viewers trend towards silver but gotDAMN

    • @BOB_983
      @BOB_983 Рік тому

      @@teejay1646 I think he just takes a lot of team coordination and timing with his abilities, which is why he’s barely picked. I feel like it would make him more fun for the casual player, it may seem too op on paper tho.

    • @Daniel-rc2bu
      @Daniel-rc2bu Рік тому

      @@BOB_983 I’ve mained new castle since he came and I can say yea he does require a lot of team coordination but also the right team comp around him to make him really useful. A wattson is almost always a must pick with him then someone like valk or wraith. Horizon is pretty good paired w him as well

  • @wm7041
    @wm7041 Рік тому +31

    I've been wanting a buff to fuse like that. Taking less damage from all incoming ordinance from enemies would be huge for Fuse. On top of that, it makes way more connected to his lore since he is all about destruction.

  • @jrmizzl8135
    @jrmizzl8135 Рік тому +71

    Season 16 isn’t bad at all so far!

    • @cainliang8302
      @cainliang8302 Рік тому +28

      My only complaints are that the best maps are not currently in rotation and they need to fix “searching for players” function for mixtape

    • @buffshrek6809
      @buffshrek6809 Рік тому +5

      Besides the Nemesis, its hella OP

    • @Jaymothafuckingcee
      @Jaymothafuckingcee Рік тому +2

      @@buffshrek6809 nah honestly the havocs better

    • @shalindelta7
      @shalindelta7 Рік тому +3

      @BirukD-lz5wp that's the ranked experience overall and has nothing to do with season 16 specifically.

  • @SoRSanDiegoPerformances
    @SoRSanDiegoPerformances Рік тому +57

    @macro I’m an ash main and a buff idea I had for her was to either a) allow her snare to stun people like the fences or emp, or b) when snared, healing items take slightly longer. Also they need to make her snare faster

    • @TheMacroShow
      @TheMacroShow  Рік тому +25

      Snare being faster isn’t a bad idea. Countering heals might feel terrible though

    • @ashsdataknife9744
      @ashsdataknife9744 Рік тому +1

      @@TheMacroShow tbh a simple ash buff for her tact is to be able to snare an entire team of 3 within the radius. Once they are caught they can be snared for 2.5 seconds instead of 3 to make it more balanced and fair. I feel like this will allow for more team combos and more utility with her squad instead of just being able to snare one person.

    • @TheDirectorfrfr
      @TheDirectorfrfr Рік тому +1

      @@TheMacroShow Macro, I was wondering if you could look at my legend ideas. If you can or can't pls reply with the answer to this comment. If you can I will send the docs for my legends. Thank you in advance.

    • @ye-eg6dd
      @ye-eg6dd Рік тому +2

      @@TheDirectorfrfr bro is polite

    • @TheDirectorfrfr
      @TheDirectorfrfr Рік тому +2

      @@ye-eg6dd Thanks. I know he has made some dope legends. I hope he can look at the legends I made. They are pretty balanced, but still fun and amazing. I got 6 legends. 1 for every class. I got 2 assault legends.

  • @hazzawuzza1783
    @hazzawuzza1783 Рік тому +35

    I think Loba should've been higher since she's the only support legend who has a movement ability and she's really good lategame

    • @teejay1646
      @teejay1646 Рік тому +8

      Loba is hands-down the worst support lategame. She's useful for third partying and fighting early. Every other support provides infinitely more utility in the last few rings

    • @bossking6796
      @bossking6796 Рік тому +8

      @@teejay1646 cap Loba is awesome late game with armor swap, Buller loot and bracelet for positioning

    • @Cyndasoul
      @Cyndasoul Рік тому

      @@teejay1646 bro really just ignored the whole video lmao, it’s lifeline sorry

    • @Manudyne
      @Manudyne Рік тому +2

      ​@@teejay1646 False. She can singlehandedly save the entire time in a few seconds in the very last ring when there's no zone anymore.
      Her tactical allows for aggressive and evasive plays altogether.
      GIT GUD

    • @extroxfps
      @extroxfps Рік тому +1

      @@teejay1646 bruh u are trippin LMAO

  • @kylefolan5327
    @kylefolan5327 Рік тому +35

    A great buff for crypto would be to make him able to move his drone similar to Newcastle can move his shield ( he don’t have to enter drone mode to move it)

    • @BabyGhast4
      @BabyGhast4 Рік тому +7

      I know a lot of people mention this, but I somewhat disagree as someone who plays Crypto a lot.
      The issue is that (unlike what a lot of people think) Crypto’s drone is not treated like a mobile shield or an Echo. This is because the drone is able to be destroyed (very easily, even) and because the consequences are dire if it is ever destroyed.
      The drone is extremely important and must be placed intelligently (around corners or in nooks and crannies) to avoid detection. Providing the option to move it like an Echo or a mobile shield would just encourage players to move it into open air (I also cannot see how it would be able to have its vision aimed) which is one of the cardinal sins a Crypto player can commit.
      There is a reason why the precise drone view style movement exists.

    • @EraserTraceur
      @EraserTraceur Рік тому +1

      @@BabyGhast4 yeah but have a hover mode so it doesn't come down low

    • @Jen_meja
      @Jen_meja Рік тому +1

      He can already do that

    • @zackshewchuk8483
      @zackshewchuk8483 Рік тому +1

      He should be able to move it like Vantage’s bat

  • @SixGuyVi
    @SixGuyVi Рік тому +8

    He deliverd in time, been searching tier lists on youtube since

  • @brooklyngray1527
    @brooklyngray1527 Рік тому +18

    It would be fun if you made tier lists for different modes, like control or gun run

  • @amadhatter3280
    @amadhatter3280 Рік тому +13

    IMO most were fine, but there were a few things I'd change personally:
    * Fuse should be B tier. He's so similar to Maggie as both are great at attacking buildings or heavyly defended position (also his ult is a bit underrated throw that sucker on a roof & you have yourself a budget Seer ult). While he doesn't provide movement his Knuckle Clusters provide consent pressure, his passive to stack nades is great, his ult gets a lot of sh!t but if you think of it a disposable Giant Thermite Grenade to block or move enemies (also scan) you'll see its not a bad ult (just not one worth holding onto) .
    Fuse is also in the Assault class which gives him extra ammo (and attachments from red bins) e.g. instead of using 4 slots for your 240 light ammo he only needs 3 slots, this free's up another slot for extra nades. If he finds a Gold Bag you can carry 12-14 nades & spam them at anyone that's hiding.
    Sidenote he's actually really strong against Cataylst (I know the list wasn't about X legend is good so Y is higher because of it, just a fun fact) & with less Wattson's around he's free to let those extra nades fly without any care.
    * Catalyst honestly doesn't need a buff or nerf despite being in S tier (besides the whole scans through her wall, which is both a buff & a nerf so its more of a Quality of Life change), she only seems broken because she's one half of this season "Revtane." She only appears broken because she makes Seer stronger (like how Octane appeared broken because he made Revenant stronger).
    * Vantage is basically the Octane of the Recon class. A strong legend that won't see a lot of play because she's outclass at her role, but is by no means weak, she's more suited to Pubs & Ranked games. Her sniper is strong, but sometimes you feel like you an extra shot so I agree with the extra bullet (or get the bullets back faster). Personally I'd put her in B tier, has a useful passive, a good tactical to re-postion herself (a one person Octance Jumnp Pad) & a strong ultimate letting you run a smg & a shotgun without losing range.

  • @JustaNullbody
    @JustaNullbody Рік тому +3

    The fuse ideas I so agree with the grenade jumping and his ult not hurting him

  • @Arrowkeys
    @Arrowkeys Рік тому +13

    imagine vantage got a full on scan for a hit ult shot for 3 seconds so it's more obvious who got tagged for your team. A push with a mobility legend after tagging two enemy's is great but it's hard to know who your teammate vantage tagged.

  • @leweishi3124
    @leweishi3124 Рік тому +16

    I think simply making the q come out faster on ash would improve her kit a lot. RIght now you get slowed to walking speed, and you cant do anything for 1-2 secconds while using it. This change would allow a lot better mobility and util in door fights or simply close range building fight.

    • @ozenefe
      @ozenefe Рік тому

      Dude they literally listened to your advice

  • @devonherring03
    @devonherring03 Рік тому +13

    Guapee is so nasty with Rev but Rev does need a big buff

  • @brucearthur5330
    @brucearthur5330 Рік тому +19

    So happy to see bangalore moving up in the rankings. I think overall she got some of the best buffs this season

  • @asmodeus7019
    @asmodeus7019 Рік тому +186

    Daily dose of kindness: I hope your day has been amazing and if it hasn't it will get better I promise ☺️

  • @coopahtroopah1175
    @coopahtroopah1175 Рік тому +2

    I’ve found that Revenant and Wraith’s ults pair really well this season. Me and my homies have had a lot of successful pushes doing that

  • @GJS1911
    @GJS1911 Рік тому +6

    I think a very simple buff for Lifeline is for her ult to spawn in a replicator as another option. This can be crucial to crafting banners and ammo as well as even respawn beacons.
    She should have both the option to spawn in a care package OR a replicator. If she can get that she’ll be used so much more in ranked especially.

  • @carburetor77
    @carburetor77 Рік тому +25

    Revenant ult rework idea: ditch the totem. Instead, he and him alone will turn into a shadowfall shadow with a bit more health. Upon death, he'll turn into an invulnerable mist (like the trailer) for 5 seconds in which he can reposition. Upon leaving mist form he cannot draw his weapon for a full second, but can still silence. Leave the rest of his abilities as is, besides allowing him to climb over some of the small ledges that block him on maps like Stormpoint

    • @combat_av3nger370
      @combat_av3nger370 Рік тому +1

      Apex is supposed to be team oriented as described by the developers. your idea destroys any team play possible with revs ult

    • @carburetor77
      @carburetor77 Рік тому +1

      @@combat_av3nger370 I don't think he should be a team playing legend. Why would he want to be helping skinsuits anyways? Most of his team play potential comes from his tactical anyways; silencing enemies gives virtually no benefit to Revenant besides in denying escape for movement legends, what it does is give his teammates a massive upper hand in an engagement since they have their abilities at their disposal, basically eliminating any ability for an enemy team to react beyond retreating or brute forcing a squad wipe. That and Revenant's ability to reposition quietly behind an enemy team and draw their fire away from his teammates so that the enemy team is surrounded by fire but is forced to split their own in two directions. Changing his ult to my idea would enhance these strengths in his kit, his current ult weakens them.

    • @combat_av3nger370
      @combat_av3nger370 Рік тому +3

      @@carburetor77 that’s fine but that’s your opinion, and it would go against how the game is designed to play. Like if octanes jump pad was replaced with octane having the ability to double jump, it destroys any team play that the pad had to offer. The totem is great if used with teammates, it’s just weak now because it’s been nerfed into oblivion. Trust me I’m one of the 2% of revenant mains

    • @carburetor77
      @carburetor77 Рік тому

      @@combat_av3nger370 my guy, I've been playing this game since the preseason, with breaks, and have been maining Rev since he came out and couldn't hold his own against a grunt with an R201. His ult is garbage and needs a total rework. And he hasn't been nerfed to the ground, every single one of his abilities, including his ult is 10x better than upon his introduction. Not even legend has to have abilities that directly help the team with zero thought because not every player is so braindead that they can't strategize without them. He can just be a pubs demon with abilities that help the team in more abstract ways that require thought and good communication, without being a death sentence that is counterintuitive to the rest of his kit

    • @BonelessPizza47
      @BonelessPizza47 Рік тому

      @@carburetor77 and hes an assualt

  • @meessawastaken5689
    @meessawastaken5689 Рік тому +5

    There's something that I think you should reconsider with rampart, you don't need to place down Sheila to get all the charge back. You just need to press the button to put it on cool down and it will give you a percentage depending on how much ammo you put back.

  • @georgeandfriendsadventures5073
    @georgeandfriendsadventures5073 Рік тому +17

    I have some ideas for some characters:
    Mirage shouldn’t be a support he should be a recon. Every time an enemy shoots a decoy, it scans them.
    Lifeline’s care package should double as a respawn beacon, but I think another buff that may be a little broken is if it also gave teammates their loot back when the respawn.
    Also, Loba feels super underwhelming at the moment. For how long her Black Market takes to charge up, I think she should be able to take 3 items and make weapons and heals free. However, red tier weapons will take 2 slots. Her tactical also needs a shorter cooldown.

    • @coolstarsajid5214
      @coolstarsajid5214 Рік тому +1

      Mirage is skirmisher

    • @atticuslynch5255
      @atticuslynch5255 Рік тому +6

      I don't think mirage should be a support or recon, sure he can ping enemies but the purpose of his clone and ult have never been to scan people, they're engagement or escape tools that can ping. What respawn should do is make him better mid fight or make his ult a better escape option

    • @prithiviflippinvoodoo4852
      @prithiviflippinvoodoo4852 Рік тому +1

      We need a separate new class for mirage 😂

    • @BOB_983
      @BOB_983 Рік тому +2

      I mean, you get loba’s ult almost instantly at the start of a match. And a 2 minute cooldown isn’t the worst thing in the world. I wouldn’t say she’s underwhelming at all…

    • @georgeandfriendsadventures5073
      @georgeandfriendsadventures5073 Рік тому +1

      @@BOB_983 For the ultimate she has, 2 minutes feels like a long time, especially when there’s a lot of loot around and how you can only take 2 items.

  • @infamous0113
    @infamous0113 Рік тому +11

    I think one good buff for rampart is putting her in the assault legend class. To me her whole shtick is area denial cause of her walls and Sheila so her carrying more ammo and getting guaranteed upgrades to her LMGs seems like the best small buff out there. Just like move mirage to support. A swap so small could buff a legend

  • @wapson2176
    @wapson2176 Рік тому +22

    Some things you got wrong:
    If rampart puts shiela away she does get some ult charge back
    Ash’s passive is also map check. You can see where people die on her map, making it s tier immediately
    Loba can actually grab banners through her ult. You craft them and then you teleport away and grab them.

    • @kaigarcia3163
      @kaigarcia3163 Рік тому

      If you have shot less than the half of Sheila bullets you get a 75% if you shot the half or more you get a 50%, not too much people knows about it…

    • @thewavyprince5691
      @thewavyprince5691 Рік тому

      Sorry ash s tier is delusional get out of here scrub

  • @YMan-zo5kg
    @YMan-zo5kg Рік тому +3

    Vantage sniper shots give a seer tactical scan when you hit them so it is easier for the team to focus isolate and push that target

  • @dj_trist
    @dj_trist Рік тому +1

    you can yoink your teammates banners in loba’s ultimate. you can use her ultimate while the banners are in the crafter

  • @UnrulyAlpha
    @UnrulyAlpha Рік тому +4

    you can actually put Shiela to cooldown at anytime and based on the amount of ammo you have left it'll give you a certain percentage. So you start with 173, if you have half of that and start the cooldown it'll start you at 50%

    • @davidg6208
      @davidg6208 Рік тому +2

      I came to comment the same thing! Really is quite useful - I also always have her ult up

  • @boomynote
    @boomynote Рік тому +14

    My idea for a Newcastle buff is simply to let him have multiple castle walls up at once. Currently if you ult again, it removes your original ult wall instantly. It’s be cool if you could use ultimate accelerants to sort of use multiple “castle walls” to make a makeshift “castle”. If other legends can have multiple ults out (pathfinder, Octane, etc.) I don’t see why Newcastle can’t. Having multiple castle walls up in one area would be a niche situation that would allow for some really fun and strategies

    • @phosphorius7537
      @phosphorius7537 Рік тому +2

      I kinda like this idea but it would kinda be pretty broken tho

    • @IzayaTijisPrincess
      @IzayaTijisPrincess Рік тому +3

      He is a top 3 legend rn. Should think about a nerf not a buff xD

    • @phosphorius7537
      @phosphorius7537 Рік тому

      @@IzayaTijisPrincess naaah not a nerf he isnt overpowered rn the game is pretty balanced in higher areas it will get harder to make newcastle work he is only good if your enemys respect your walls but if they dont and destroy it hes pretty fcked also rn the meta still runs mad maggie what is the biggest counter to him i still like him tho

    • @teejay1646
      @teejay1646 Рік тому +3

      Newcastle literally doesn't need a buff he's stupidly strong.
      Just unpopular. Most people can't shield dance, can't micromanage his shield, can't play around his big hitbox and aren't aware of how to abuse his passive

    • @Daniel-rc2bu
      @Daniel-rc2bu Рік тому

      A good buff for new castle I think would be give his mobile shield more health or make it indestructible like gibbys. I play new castle a lot and it’s crazy how many enemy teams I run into that don’t know that his whole kit can be easily destroyed with team fire.

  • @shocker_103
    @shocker_103 Рік тому +6

    Valk ult is still better than Wraith, because when you launch to the sky with your teammates you're safe, but with Wraith your teammates have to wait until you place portal. They're usually already dead, and then you place portal for enemies to push you

    • @eloysaucedo6085
      @eloysaucedo6085 Рік тому +2

      I dont agree, both have pros and cons. Valk has a startup where you can get easily beamed and and people can still shoot you through the sky and like a marco said you cant go into a building. With wraith it does take like 10 seconds for the portal to finish but once you’re in it you can not be shot and that fact that its distance is doubled and she moves faster at the ends makes it a lot easier for wraith to use it. Also if someone takes the portal to push you its an easy beam because you an hear them coming and you know exactly where they’ll be.

    • @Javieratleta
      @Javieratleta Рік тому

      As a Valk main I wish it was that easy, but in high ranks nowadays you get vaporized from the air before reaching max altitude if you don't have enough cover, at least for the first seconds, I wish they added back the ability to spin teammates around you, just to have a little cover from the sides... but I still think the rotation capacity is better for Valk than Wraith

    • @shalindelta7
      @shalindelta7 Рік тому +2

      That's gotta be the most short sighted and nooby take on wraiths ability. If you're using the portal to escape from enemies you're using it wrong. I don't even play wraith but i know this much from fighting those sweats daily.

    • @rywen-25
      @rywen-25 Рік тому

      lol you think you’re safe when using a valk ult? It has a long start up time and enemies can easily shoot you out of the air if they’re good enough at the game. Just watch ALGS.
      Also, these abilities aren’t just for escape, they’re also for rotations. If you’re only using them in fights, then you’re using them terribly wrong.

  • @squibbles_
    @squibbles_ Рік тому +2

    I think a solid buff that could give Vantage a higher capability for teamwork would be to give her some sort of extra recon capabilities besides just being able to see really far and scout ahead. And I think a great way to do that would be to have shots from her sniper briefly scan people that you hit it with to quickly tell your team where the target you just tenderized for them is. More often than not, unless I shoot a guy that my team is already in a close/mid-ranged fight with, it's up to me to push whoever I marked; so giving her ult a scan that's just long enough to tell her team where a marked target is can really help with that.
    I also think her tactical's windup animation could be a liiiiittle bit faster? Like, not TOO fast obviously, you don't wanna give her the same mobility as skirmishers-- but I dunno, it feels like it's just a fraction of a second too long.

    • @teejay1646
      @teejay1646 Рік тому

      I kinda like the idea of the bat being a kind of proximity sensor. You can leave it hovering somewhere and if an enemy gets close to it: it will start screeching to warn you.
      That way the whole "place the bat in advance" mechanic feels like an interesting decision making process where sometimes you're pre-planning your escape and sometimes you're trying to use to bat to warn you before you get pushed

  • @JXSH_55
    @JXSH_55 Рік тому +5

    It’s a good day when macro posts

  • @dazeo4393
    @dazeo4393 Рік тому +1

    man whenever i take a long break from apex, i can always check your channel to find everything i need to know before going into the game again. super great editing and quality too. tysm for the effort and work you put in to this man. greatly appreciated

  • @thevantagemain14
    @thevantagemain14 Рік тому +3

    4:53 Ash's snare could also move faster, which I think would help her a lot

  • @freya.VT.
    @freya.VT. Рік тому +1

    the art for each legend is so cuuuute

  • @heavenlyapollo8522
    @heavenlyapollo8522 Рік тому +3

    As of recently I’ve been playing a lot of rampart and she has high potential but it’s quite difficult to play her but with time she’s highly viable

  • @Sigmamonkey1512
    @Sigmamonkey1512 Рік тому +2

    I agree with this tier list mostly except for fuse and bloodhound. Bloodhound hasn’t had any nerfs to put him from s to c or b tier and fuse has a strong tactical to put him in high c tier or low b tier

    • @dexterharris3121
      @dexterharris3121 Рік тому +1

      I don’t get peoples opinion on fuse at all… most people think he’s bad or low mid and I don’t get it

    • @gamerberg7161
      @gamerberg7161 Рік тому +3

      Fuse is very underrated tbh his firecrackers are very annoying and his ultimate combined with Bangalore's or Gibby's can be devastating

  • @AfroX-StayLegendary
    @AfroX-StayLegendary Рік тому +18

    Bloodhound is currently S Tier, a lot of people just don't know how to play his new kit, bloodhound now knows and can constantly track where every team on the map is.

    • @IzayaTijisPrincess
      @IzayaTijisPrincess Рік тому +4

      No he is not. Simply wrong. Knowing where every team is, is nothing exclusive for him and he lost a great amount of his combat power. He is still decent but not anywhere near S tier

    • @teejay1646
      @teejay1646 Рік тому +3

      Their*
      And yeah the new passive is absolutely busted, BH was always good for edge teams that wanna fight a lot and now they're even better at it

    • @Daniel-rc2bu
      @Daniel-rc2bu Рік тому +1

      @@IzayaTijisPrincess I agree I think before the scan “nerfs” seer and bloodhound were pretty interchangeable but now there’s absolutely zero reason to use bloodhound over seer. Literally the only thing bloodhound has going for him now imo is his insane movement while in ult.

  • @EPadraigM
    @EPadraigM Рік тому +1

    Bloodhound tactical rework to end aoe scans.
    Bloodthirst: For 30 seconds after hurting an enemy, you can use your tactical to scan them and track their footsteps (like in your ult) for 15 seconds. You also gain a speed boost while following their footsteps.

  • @paologamesx7643
    @paologamesx7643 Рік тому +6

    Waiting for Fade and Rhapsody coming to the main game

  • @pumpking_head_teen
    @pumpking_head_teen Рік тому

    Hello! Lifeline main here

  • @NoahShanks27
    @NoahShanks27 Рік тому +14

    Octane's stim does too much damage. When they nerfed him in season 9 that wasn't even an issue, the issue was his Jump pad. They should revert the stim and **maybe** the ultimate.

    • @zEternus
      @zEternus Рік тому +2

      I agree

    • @teejay1646
      @teejay1646 Рік тому +2

      Yeah he caught too many nerfs for the sake of stopping Rev's toxic ass ult

  • @solaid4322
    @solaid4322 Рік тому

    I’ve been sleeping on apex for a long time and I’ve been playing since launch and seeing this vid kinda wants me to go back thx macro

  • @B6N9
    @B6N9 Рік тому +3

    For me, Rev is pretty useful because by crouching he can move faster while healing, you can surprise enemies when you climb up somewhere and you can use his tactical for detecting enemies.

  • @TysonASMR
    @TysonASMR Рік тому

    I would love if wattsons passive was taking less ring damage since she made the damn thing

  • @Corny1210
    @Corny1210 Рік тому +3

    Rampart’s ult can reset at any point. You don’t have to place it as a turret to reset. Anyways, she does need a little buff. If her walls formed as fast as wattson fences she’d be a much higher tier.
    Edit: I just read the pinned comment. Sry😅

  • @sigzsz9281
    @sigzsz9281 Рік тому +1

    Notice how your the only person to put fuse in f tier and everyone other list puts him in b or a tier… so underrated

  • @ezynpl4948
    @ezynpl4948 Рік тому +3

    I really like it overall but loba must be A tier at least especially with crafting banners she is insane. When things go bad and you are last one standing u can use bracelet and go craft so if u focus on being last one standing u basically win a fight or go again + provide items after revive with ult

  • @jimcarreysthemask5246
    @jimcarreysthemask5246 Рік тому +1

    crazy to believe that the first tier list was back in season 6,

  • @emporerstygain1701
    @emporerstygain1701 Рік тому +11

    8:48 You can take banners out of her ult you just need to craft them and get them out of her ult from the crafter.

  • @ej-5487
    @ej-5487 Рік тому +1

    I am a Seer main and I believe making it so his ult can’t go through Bang smokes and Catalyst Wall is a good nerf to tone him down, but reducing the size and duration of his ult is a little too much and I think no one would play seer and he would drop to like B tier.

  • @Amigo77712
    @Amigo77712 Рік тому +3

    Catalyst is so underrated she always in every situation deserves A/S

  • @lwaymann2231
    @lwaymann2231 Рік тому +1

    imagine being a supposed unstoppable killing machine and being outclassed by charismatic clown with decoys

  • @ShawarmaJou
    @ShawarmaJou Рік тому +5

    Loba should be higher in the tier… not saying that because I’m a Loba main… but I feel she’s better in this season :)

  • @palomao8949
    @palomao8949 11 місяців тому +1

    When you realize the season 16 tier list is shorter than season 4s

  • @glaceyy
    @glaceyy Рік тому +6

    THAT CHIBI CATALYST OMGGG

    • @vukojicasandic3773
      @vukojicasandic3773 Рік тому

      What is chibi

    • @La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo-Cipher
      @La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo-Cipher Рік тому

      ​@vukojica sandic The English term "chibi" derives from the Japanese chibi kyara (ちびキャラ, 'tiny character'), where chibi (ちび) is a colloquial word for very short people and children, itself deriving from chibiru (禿びる, v. 'to wear down'), and kyara (キャラ) is loaned from the English "character."
      Basically the thumbnail character drawings and the art style is called chibi

  • @khamanigardner5605
    @khamanigardner5605 Рік тому +1

    I think I’m add to “grenadier” Fuse gets another passive called “Firefighter”: He gets damage boost and speed when he past through his fire

  • @RavenScarrr
    @RavenScarrr Рік тому +3

    I completely agree, aside from 2. Newcastle is A - S as he can create cover out of nowhere in late games, save teammates easily and craft banners. Also Catalyst is nowhere near S, as her passive is useless outdoors, her tactical is breakable and the wall can be countered with height movement legends like Horizon, Pathfinder or Valkyrie. I’d say low B. Amazing vid!

    • @_ed21
      @_ed21 Рік тому +1

      Newcastle the goat!

    • @jihi9376
      @jihi9376 Рік тому +1

      Catalyst does literally nothing besides the ult, and even then it’s mostly useless except for extremely niche situations, and other legends can do the same exact thing anyway

    • @teejay1646
      @teejay1646 Рік тому +2

      If you can't play her just say that bro. Newcastle's passive is useless when you're teammate isn't downed but it's still ridiculous strong

  • @Splat56
    @Splat56 Рік тому

    I love how you still do the fake pred withe “lol jk” instead. 😂

  • @bernardoindacochea5758
    @bernardoindacochea5758 Рік тому +4

    I have an idea to buff Vantage, but maybe it's a little broken. My idea is that everyone in the squad can use Echo to relocate, but at the cost of having his ability on cool down

  • @mistermister4525
    @mistermister4525 Рік тому +1

    Another Fuse buff I'd recommend is
    Where he's also able to take less damage from thermites and grenades (but arc stars still affect him)

  • @ShoongShoongSHOONG
    @ShoongShoongSHOONG Рік тому +6

    Afew thing i would say are
    1. switch mirage and loba in the classes
    2. Fuse should be able to throw grenades back

    • @samlikeshams
      @samlikeshams Рік тому

      Loba is perfectly fine as a support character why make her a skirmisher?

    • @atticuslynch5255
      @atticuslynch5255 Рік тому +2

      Mirage really shouldn't be a support jsut for invis rez, none of his other abilties are support focused

    • @samlikeshams
      @samlikeshams Рік тому

      @@atticuslynch5255 Also why Loba shouldn’t be a skirmisher

  • @forfoxsakes4057
    @forfoxsakes4057 Рік тому

    i love that at 2:32 it looks like you opened the gates to paradise

  • @callmera0uf560
    @callmera0uf560 Рік тому +3

    people who think rampart is below B tier just dont know how to play her imo

    • @TheMacroShow
      @TheMacroShow  Рік тому +3

      She might be a sleeper pick, I wouldn’t be surprised

    • @callmera0uf560
      @callmera0uf560 Рік тому +1

      @@TheMacroShow i agree

  • @puppetfan4634
    @puppetfan4634 Рік тому

    You have no idea how happy it made me to see Valkyrie no longer in S tier in every Apex tier list

  • @IntAddixt
    @IntAddixt Рік тому +3

    I main Fuse so I agree, Fuse should be immune to his own abilities, it’s just common sense

  • @Chimera-man-man
    @Chimera-man-man Рік тому +2

    Hey Macro, Rampart already has that. You don't need to put it down just click next like you would on any other weapon to switch it to single fire or whatever.

  • @letters102
    @letters102 Рік тому +4

    Mirage on top!!

  • @minion1717
    @minion1717 Рік тому +2

    It’s sad to see octane in c. But I do agree. And the buff you recommended I feel would make him better.

  • @Soigenie
    @Soigenie Рік тому +2

    On par with Crypto, the new recon passive is a better deal than scanning for ring location imo. Due to the fact that there's an animation between scanning on survey beacon, Crypto doesn't need to do that because of his drone. This alone lets him scan survey beacons outside the ring for enemies, plus it would lead to better postioning to scan for the enemies. Having the map room on a larger scale is now more terrifying than scanning for the next ring imo. P.S. Crypto is usually never outclassed. Rather, he is overshadowed.

  • @cainliang8302
    @cainliang8302 Рік тому +1

    Macro Tier List (In Order)
    S:
    Seer, Catalyst
    A:
    Wraith, Valkyrie, Bangalore, Caustic, Horizon, Wattson,
    B:
    Mad Maggie, Loba, Pathfinder, Newcastle, Gibraltar, Bloodhound, Crypto,
    C:
    Octane, Lifeline, Vantage, Ash, Rampart, Mirage,
    D:
    Fuse, Revenant

  • @iii_heart_Gg
    @iii_heart_Gg Рік тому +1

    macro casually predicting season 18

  • @beanveebez8311
    @beanveebez8311 Рік тому +1

    Macro’s pred status is “lol jk” ats too funny

  • @henriklewis792
    @henriklewis792 Рік тому +2

    When macro posts… its a good day.

  • @subz3ro358
    @subz3ro358 Рік тому +1

    A possible Seer nerf is to make his ult pulse. Kind of like a 360 degree mirage scan, so the synergies with Catalyst and Bangalore are dead.

  • @rexcolt9742
    @rexcolt9742 Рік тому +2

    Have to admit the idea for Revenant's Ultimate to return at any time sounds great.
    I dont know if giving his tactical a little bit more of range and travel speed (closer to Fuse's) could be a good idea too.
    Fuse, while i understand why Respawn did it; making him inmune to the damage of his Ultimate would be nice.
    I still think making his ultimate a projectile which explodes and then creates the ring of fire (kinda the teaser for Fuse back in S7) would make him more in pair with Caustic.
    His Ultimate needs to make some damage by default.
    Currently, i dont fear Fuse's Ult if i am behind cover. Like, lets say, a box. I just remain behind cover healing from the 'nades if anything until the scan ends. The fire might not damage the enemies but it surely slows them down and blinds them, i just use their push against them.
    Rampart, i think it would be nice to get a little bit ammo for her Ultimate from using accelerators before placing it. Similar to Vantage's. Obviously not a lot of ammo or it would be broken.
    Ash Tactical should be buffed somehow. Either at traveling speed or, yes, cooldown time. Or both.
    Or maybe im just bad with her. IDK
    Crypto. I still think he needs a real Passive. An independent one from his Tactical. And thats it.
    Loba, i totally agree with making her being able to pick teammates banners with her Ultimate.

  • @benadkins8153
    @benadkins8153 Рік тому +1

    maybe vantages ultimate could be like a supercharge for one shot in a gun, dealing double or triple damage. high risk because once you shoot it’s gone, but very high rewards. also keeps the sniper idea

  • @shadowreaper3582
    @shadowreaper3582 Рік тому +1

    I honestly think Rampart is OP, and super underrated. I still do trash with her, cuz I forget to use the walls pretty often. However, having a gun that shreds people in SECONDS at a 2 MINUTE COOLDOWN is absolutely busted. Although, some changes would be warranted;
    She’s a Controller Legend, which is obviously helpful- But it doesn’t make sense considering her kit. She has ONE ability to hold down an area/building- Hence why she should be in the Assault class. The extra ammo and better supplies would make sense due to her passive- And her background, since she’s a modder. Also, her walls provide extra damage, which is helpful in combat. And not to mention, the (roughly) 140 pound heavy machine gun attached to her back..
    In terms of other changes, speeding up her cover placement and increasing its build/overall health would make sense. Her ult doesn’t really need any changes, but I 100% think that bullets should be added over time like Vantage’s. Having to put Shiela on cooldown after firing 30 bullets is pretty stupid. With her passive, I think it could be expanded to SMGs instead of just LMGs- They’re all big, fast-firing guns, so it would make sense.
    If you made it this far, thank you! Any way of getting all these suggestions out to Respawn/EA would be very helpful- Anywho, I hope you have a wonderful day/night!

    • @teejay1646
      @teejay1646 Рік тому

      Yeah people who think Rampart is bad are the kind of players who play her like absolute shit and just sit in one spot without considering the angles you need to have covered

    • @shadowreaper3582
      @shadowreaper3582 Рік тому +1

      @@teejay1646 FR! Rampart’s basically easy mode when you get good with her, you don’t have to worry about positioning and you have a pocket eraser- I’m pretty bad with her, but she is fun af. I also pop off sometimes with Shiela and get like 6 knocks/kills in 20 seconds.. Actually got that 4 knocks/20 seconds badge today.

  • @imhellatired9116
    @imhellatired9116 Рік тому +1

    I have trouble playing Apex, but I absolutely love Macros videos!! Keep it up, dude!

  • @kaiZXful
    @kaiZXful Рік тому +1

    Seer, destroyer of moons. Favorite quote from the video

  • @vain9137
    @vain9137 Рік тому +1

    Finally seeing a buff to wraith's portal is so nice because ash's portal was basically wraith's portal but quicker and better

  • @TheAxeManOfTheUSSR
    @TheAxeManOfTheUSSR Рік тому +1

    Apex: “i tell you what, you tell me what you want and I will tell you why you can’t”

  • @courtneyrock6202
    @courtneyrock6202 Рік тому +2

    I feel like they could have seer's ult pulse kinda like how his passive works now. So its not constant but its still enough to do its job. Also i would definitely switch pathy and valk. Valk is basically a schoolbus while path can drop like 3 ults back to back due to the skirmisher passive on top of all of his outplay potential from his grapple

  • @Dozingpotato0
    @Dozingpotato0 Рік тому +2

    Bro such good takes except ash
    Needs a tactical or passive buff

  • @ECGgroup
    @ECGgroup Рік тому +1

    As a Fuse main I might disagree with D, but he definitely needs a buff. The no damage from his ult and reduced damage from ordinates is definitely the way to go.

  • @henryjiang9990
    @henryjiang9990 Рік тому +1

    Only youtuber to put Wattson in A. I respect that and I agree.

  • @nxnad6216
    @nxnad6216 Рік тому +1

    I think Crypto should open the tactical weapon bin and support bin, that will be a great buff

  • @aidengolden1372
    @aidengolden1372 Рік тому +1

    Rev should return back to totem when it runs out becasue when you push people they just hide or wait until the timers over and then your super vulnerable

  • @None-rm6bo
    @None-rm6bo Рік тому +2

    If they ever did anything to Watson it should be the ability to turn on and off her ult because I can't tell you how many times it had ruined a friendly ult or grenade it also wouldn't seem to broken because I would give enemies a window of attack.

    • @teejay1646
      @teejay1646 Рік тому

      It's about where you throw it.
      If your grenade lands outside of the ults range: it won't get zapped

  • @lucasvincent3021
    @lucasvincent3021 Рік тому

    When talking about lifeline you should’ve noted that she’s the only one that can counter the revive cancel on seed’s tactical

  • @SurvisCallus
    @SurvisCallus Рік тому

    Pushing with a Caustic feels so good not only covering the area with traps and throwing your alt into an area to push and spread enemies is always great usually with ambushing, oddly great Offensively, especially with his damage redux cause thicc mid to High A

  • @wenzhang8767
    @wenzhang8767 Рік тому +1

    What’s funny is that in apex legends mobile lifeline actually has the ability to make her drone follow people, however it’s part of a perk system.
    You guys think respawn should add a perk system?

    • @iamyourmaster2565
      @iamyourmaster2565 Рік тому +1

      Hell no, just make the drone slowly move toward teammates

  • @vader2680
    @vader2680 Рік тому +1

    Bro that pred symbol in the corner got me good bro I actually thought u were pred

  • @christopherschutte5291
    @christopherschutte5291 Рік тому

    Something I had in mind about a change for loba since she isn't really a medic support and to support the thief part of her kit is instead of opening the extra medical crate compartment she can open the assault crate compartment

  • @icetoxic1058
    @icetoxic1058 Рік тому +1

    i love how you say "They" for bloodhound. Lore is important