I watched a person make soup today. He said clearly, “My video today is sponsored by BlueLand”. Then he demonstrated him using the product. He put the sponsorship information clearly in the description box. Just for reference, BlueLand is a company that creates plastic-free cleaning products. Anyways, he disclosed his connection to the company and product, he demonstrated the product, and I purchased relevant products that are useful for my home. I’ve got no problem with sponsorships or ads for companies and products you believe in and I have no problem with purchasing them myself. I have a problem when the person and company don’t disclose appropriately and when the performance is overstated, understated, or misrepresented.
I’ve got to be honest. I am over influencers doing their makeup, showing it right after it’s done, and talking about the product/giving a review. And that’s not even considering the filters and things they use to make it look it’s best. Of course it looks beautiful and buy-worthy. Sometimes even splurge-worthy. This is your job, you put the product on, and generally you take it off in ten minutes. I don’t care about how products look on you after ten minutes with filters. I’m a working person with a skin/health condition who has 15 minutes at most to get ready in the morning, and can be out of my house for twelve hours at a time. I care how products go on, wear, stay on, and feel at every point in the process. I even care about the best way to fully take them off. Those “ten minute reviews” can take a hike.
Agreed!!! I want more in-depth reviews if I’m going to consume influencer content… especially skincare!!!! It’s bothers me so much when someone uses a skincare product one time and makes a video… like dude- it takes sometimes months! to see results… not to mention they don’t have the skin condition that product is supposedly combating… And make up REQUIRES a wear test. I truly don’t care if it looks ok after 5 mins. How is it going to react to my face warmth, my sweat, and ✨life✨ for my work shift???
I am NOT a fan of Mikayla. I heard about her just before “lash-gate” and had an instant dislike. Something about her just sets off alarm bells for me. She seems disingenuous and annoying. I usually try to watch for a while but once the mascara issue happened I stopped since she’s not trustworthy.
When Sam R made her video saying she was no longer accepting PR I think that was the end of the beauty influencer sparkle for me. Her transparency and honesty opened my eyes to how manipulative people had been, how much waste was being created, and how many businesses just didn't care (of course they don't, there businesses!) I really haven't been that into make up since and am a lot more careful about the products I buy.
Gosh, Mikayla strikes again. I'm surprised people still rely on her "honest" opinions on products by now. Never been more proud of not having the TikTok app.
I'm glad that so many of the shady influencers have jumped from UA-cam to Tiktok. It seems like the UA-cam beauty community has a lot of smaller influencers with integrity bc everyone stopped supporting the ones who lied to get to the top. On Tiktok the shady influencers have a clean slate with an audience who don't know not to trust them.
Sooner or later they will be called out by tiktokers or better yet the people on UA-cam that called these "beauty influencers" out on youtube will go over onto Tikkok to spread the info on there as well! No where to hide the lies!
The sad thing is these people got rich by us. The general public. Made them rich. Paid for their houses etc. Best advice I ever got was , put money into your own pocket not others
Im also making the decision to stop watching people that support\push Lunar Beauty. Manny still supports James and he even said somethings in support of Colleen, so if your ok with supporting a predator protector because they send you free stuff than I don't need to know your opinion on anything else.
In my head I made peace and this is - I watch people who support Manny but don’t actually put any money in Mannys pocket myself. So Robert, Jen, Marlena would be in that bucket of people I won’t trash/ will give views, comment, even though they support Manny. Laura Lee makes me sick, for example when everyone and their mothers positively reviewed her palette with her niece, I didn’t watch that video…but might watch other videos by the same creator. I still haven’t watched , and won’t watch, Jens fairly recent eyeshadow swatch video because it had the Laura and Manny collab in it. That made me physically sick,
And like... I get that it can be hard to only buy makeup from ethical brands, because almost all of the affordable ones have done some really messed up stuff. But... all of these influencer brands are stupid expensive. There's no excuse for supporting actual horrible people when their makeup is like... $40 for a lipstick or whatever.
I never like it when influencers use the language of sales people. The clips of Mikaela (sp?) saying "you guys are going to love this, you're definitely going to want to try this" or "I wish I could show it to you, the packaging is so cute" turned me off because she is not giving us real information. I appreciate when people provide objective information about how the make up is working and why. Also, the tone is a big reason why I would want to keep watching. Any person giving an objective review is not going to be fawning over a product with over-the-top emotions. They will be explaining what they are excited about and have facts back it up. I would not describe myself as having a BS meter, it's more like I just cringe as soon as I feel as though someone is trying to manipulate me. Not this time, Mikaela!
No. It should absolutely be on both the company and the influencer. Back when everyone was talking about the mascara, people brought up I think the Maybelline powder. What had happened was influencers bought the product (I imagine), used it in a video, Maybelline (in this instance) saw the video, wanted to use it to advertise the product, compensated the influencer (however they agreed to compensate) and it became part of Maybelline’s advertisement. The video on the brand’s account was clearly an ad- that’s what cosmetics companies do: sell their cosmetics BUT the influencer never went back and properly disclosed the connection to the ad for the brand. That was a perfectly fine way to do business UNTIL the influencer didn’t disclose the ad even on a past ad. Companies and the FTC can say its on the influencer all they want. And I definitely hold influencers responsible. Here’s the deal though… don’t hold the influencers you, as a million to billion dollar company, use to high standards including disclosing ads and sponsorships for the protection of your consumers? I’ll be out quicker than you can imagine. And don’t think I won’t. I just did a mass unfollowing last week of ANYONE who supports JC, CB, or any of the Morphe babes. Give me a reason to stop buying from your company. My wallet will appreciate it.
For the discussion at 27:39 I feel especially if they are willing to say something is crap and they got it in PR then I believe them more. I feel like they know by saying something negative they could get removed from the PR list and they are willing to be honest.
I remember during the time that LashGate happened earlier this year I watched a video from Lauren Mae Beauty that was sponsored by Yes Style where she reviewed a bunch of products from there and the first one she wasn't a fan of. I was like okay here is someone trustworthy bc she gave the products in a sponsored video an honest review.
Doesn’t this just come back to the old “truth in advertising” thing? Did we actually believe Jennifer Anniston was colouring her hair at home in her sink on a Friday night when she was advertising hair dye? I sure didn’t so I’ve always taken recommendations with a large grain of salt whether traditional advertising or influencer.
UA-cam and Influencers, at the time, were supposed to everyday people who had no incentive to bs. That is why people flocked to them. Social media was marked as more relatable. Now, Influencers are basically Jennifer Aniston who cosplay a Walmart cashier.
I only watch you Jen and Emily Noel for any recommendations and to learn about any new things. I trust you both so much because you are so transparent about everything ❤
I’m a brand owner and I am not using influencers for this EXACT reason! The brand SHOULD be responsible! We only want honest reviews and feedback! It’s truly what helps the consumer!
I am based in Asia and TikTok is prompting warnings for Influencer before they post content that seems to them as branded content or sponsored. TikTok will not let the Creator post it until they can clear it (whether it's being sponsored or not)
I feel so blessed to have found you on UA-cam. I am relearning makeup as an older woman who doesn't want to be stuck in the past. I would have believed anyone. OH WOW Thank Goodness I found you. You and Glam Gabi are all I watch and apparently I am very blessed. Thanks so very much for your honesty. I am on a tight budget and really do save to get some things, but your reviews on the less expensive products have SAVED me Jen. You are a Blessing ❤
You talking about graphic T-shirts made me think about a maternity shirt I wore when I was pregnant with my second child; it said “close encounters of the best kind”. This was the year Steven Spielberg’s popular movie “close encounters of the third kind” came out. I also had another similarly risqué (for that time) shirt too, but can’t for the life of me remember what it said. I got quite a few comments and chuckles for both.
I LOVED my "Dare to Create palette." It was deep-skin friendly and my companion palette with my Jaclyn Hill palette for trips (I went to Europe for 2 weeks with it)! James Charles's palette format was clearly taking from this x-large Morphe palette format. I still have it...I don't have JC's palette. 😏
I was one of those who came from a third world, worked and saved so much money for that damn palette (and you know those conversation rates) so I could make content for my YT channel (coz people like watching about new makeup) and i bought it because James said it was great. Sighs.
Agree on the benefits of a "negative" review. A few of my favorite products I bought immediately because a youtuber with different needs didnt like it, but didnt like it for the exact reason I need it. Hannah louise poston is one of my favorites for overly indepth reviews. Esp clarification on color or textures where video cant pick up accuracy. Every product i bought based on her reviews (good and bad!) has always been exactly what i was expecting.
HLP is my jam. I am melanated and matured so naturally nothing she likes would work on me, but I love her for content - her poetry of words. I sleep on her videos. So calming.
@marlbboro8091 I love that! And totally agree. I like she's branched out to other areas than just makeup just so she can talk about more things haha. LOVE the way she discusses fashion trends even though I wear the same thing day in day out.
If anyone is shocked by this it's time for a reality check bc it's a given. 90% of influencers don't care about you or how hard you work they just want your money and support so they can keep the boogie lifestyle
OHHMG that’s wild. Not like he said back then I didn’t have the expertise I have w/ makeup today & I thought it was better than it was. I lied to benefit myself for the sponsorship money && then I got rewarded more for lying by getting collab w/ the SAME brand aka use the SAME formula && make a shit ton off of that. Gross. He def made millions!! Cuz Morphe dropped his palette cuz of everything his ego thinks dogging on their formula is funny but it looks way worse on him.
I thought there was something wrong with me when I used that palette. It got so much hype and I thought it was awful. But I am no makeup artist and held onto it, eventually removing some of the shades I thought were pretty and putting them into a Z palette. Even though they looked great in the pan, I had no better luck with even this curated version and eventually tossed it. I did not know as much about Morphe’s history back then as I do now. I legit believed what influencers said because I had run a book review website for a decade and our reviews were real, so UA-cam videos must be real, right? I am a women of a certain age and I should know better, but there you have it. (my husband calls me Polly … I prefer Anna😅) It is not news to me that he is trash. But the fact is, who teaches a literal child morals in an industry and a medium built on smoke and mirrors?
thought that I sucked at makeup, because I couldn't get morphe stuff to work well (I had 35 O and 35 P i think)I was working as MUA at the time, but still thought that I had less talent than influencers. So this lying is harmful on many levels.
Back before most or all the 'he's bad news' came out about James Charles, I did buy the mini version of his Morphe palette (literally the only Morphe product I've ever bought) because a few of the UA-camrs I followed then liked it and I was working my way into wearing bolder colors. It seemed like an inexpensive way to dip my toe into that and it definitely was and it works well for me. Now, I've turned it into my travel palette because I won't care if it shatters or gets lost and I've replaced its role in my at-home collection with a Juvia's Place palette, which is amazing quality.
Mikayla actually makes me sick. To think she can sit there day after day and lie to people and they just worship her. I know this makes me sound like I'm a mean person, but I don't think I am, I wish people would stop letting people like her get away with this.
What you said about small indie brands- YES YES YES. I work with mainly smaller indie brands. When I show something from a brand, If I love it- you’re gonna know. I won’t shut up about it lol But if it’s something I’m not feeling 100%, I won’t tell you it’s great. But I will say ‘I like the color story and the artwork is great!’ I’m not going to say the shadow is wonderful if it isn’t. But I’m not going to be harmful to these small indie brands that I work with. I will usually tell the brand directly (hey your shimmers weren’t the best- the mattes had a lot of fallout- the color story just wasn’t my thing!) But i don’t accept PR from brands I don’t like or are not interested in… so that’s why I say I’m excited about all the things. Bc I’m excited about all the things 😂😂😂 I think def finding multiple people to check out their opinions and swatches and photos is a great idea! But ever since makaylah and lashgate, it seems like some people are very against even small influencers like myself on insta. I’ve heard some people say they would never use any influencers affiliate code even if they used their swatches or were genuinely influenced by them. But some people feel as if any influenced is out to lie to them and out to get them… which is so far from how most of us feel. When you work with brands you do need to be personable with them but it doesn’t mean that we are in cahoots with brands to lie to everyone lol it’s really quite disheartening sometimes. When you start out as a creator working with brands people are so happy for you. People congratulate you and say they’re so happy you’re getting pr! Then when you work with more and more brands you end up crossing this invisible line that you didn’t even know existed. You’ve done too much, worked with too many brands, gotten too much PR. And then noones happy for you anymore now they think you’re a liar and a sellout. I promise we are not all liars and sellouts lol we just love makeup as much as anyone else!
If he had said that he thought it was fine at the time but through education, experience and a change of taste, he now regards it as a bad palette - that would have been totally fine in my books. But to actively endorse something that he thought was bad at the time is absolutely scamming behaviour. So glad I never started watching him!
Wow this was alot!!! And idk why anyone is shocked that james lies about his sponsorships lol also maybe you had to keep scrolling to find negative comments maybe james has been deleting some? Who knows with him honestly
Yes there def is a lot of influencers that only care about about the money… however, influencers like Jen, Juicyjas, Taylor Wynn, and Allie Glines I do trust. They won’t take a sponsorship for something they don’t like. They will do a sponsored post for a brand, but then also be honest about the things from the brand they don’t like❤
You, Pati Alonso and Dr. Dray are the UA-camrs I trust the most with recommendations! And I must admit I do NOT run to the store just because you all say it works, it all depends if I really think it will work for me. Many things you or Dr Day recommend do not work for me, but I find it honest because you guys go into details about pro, cons and ingredients. Been watching you for many years. I loved JenLuvReviews and I know you’ve changed your content a bit over the yeas but I still love your channel and everything you do.
so basically we've gone back to regular commercials, like back in the day on tv with actresses' or models.... we know they don't use this hairspray or eye cream, she's just in the commercial, and the same thing is happening with influencers, they are just lending their face to promote something and that's not why we used to believe influencers, but now it's the reason we don't
Tati did a sponsorship w/ essence about 2 mos ago now which made sense as she’s used & recommended them as long as I’ve watched her. She’s the reason I knew of & love a few things from them. Disclosed first thing but from then to now there’s been all these full face essence videos w/ NO disclosure. Like everyone just randomly decided to do a full face of essence?? Come on! I don’t watch TikTok but if I did I’d never watch mikayla. It’s gross we all know sponsorships happen just stop being shady, lying all for personal gain.
@@kettyca666I 100% agree that the foundation wasn’t the best smelling. But I do like it and I had watched multiple videos of people bringing it up. I think it’s important to note what it is you are doing when wearing it. For example I’m on online meetings all day I don’t go out in the sun. It’s a great looking foundation on camera and affordable
This is why I watch you. I just don't trust so many of them. I made a mistake of buying an influencer's eye shadow palette after hearing SO many channels say how amazing it was. It wasn't. I was so put off by the whole experience I stopped watching the channels that gave the "glowing" reviews. At least when you review stuff you always say WHY you like it and what we might not like too if you see something. Thank you for doing stuff like you do.
In Poland, law changed recently and if influencer doesn’t use correct and transparent information about advertising in social media - influencer is paying high penalty but also client or agency.
I tend to look at negative reviews of products and hotels because this way you have an idea of how bad it can possibly be. Some people's negative reviews will be something small that might not sway you against it like with makeup the black eyeliner not being black enough.
At this point... do we even trust that Lipstick Nik is using the exact products that are marketed? I wouldn't be surprised if she used some good products to build a coulor and then slap morphe on top of it. Also, she was besties with Jefree, now is with James? I feel that James got her to just get back at Jefree. Morphe just tested their influencers who can sell crap so we can hire them more, I doubt that James's palette performed any better than dare to create. I almost bought the dare to create palette. Luckily instead I bought a lot of singles from Polish indie brand and I still love them.
This is why I just listen to myself, and what I know I like. I’m happy to take a company up on their policy to try a product and return it if it’s crap. I do still follow you Jen because you dive deep into ingredients and stuff like that, which I appreciate and trust. As far as influencers go, I don’t follow any because I don’t want to be influenced. I want to be educated. 🖤
I am a member of a few review sites, within these communities I'll be sent some products to review, in the beginning i was worried to leave a negative review for fear i wouldn't be sent more products. My internal conversation was very torn, i hope I'm honest, but I'm aware that my opinion could be influenced. I try to judge fairly and never give a totally negative review, i will say what i like, who i think this product will work for and finally what i don't like. But the urge to give a good review just to get more is definitely there, and this is just a hobby, for people who depend on reviews for their livelihood i cannot imagine for how tempting it might be.
I listen to some recommendations but what I have learned is most of those big UA-camrs are sellouts and I don’t believe them. Also some of the “best” products were shit on me I think it depends on so many things. I never got morphe I got one eyeshadow pallet and it was horrible
I cannot get past the fact that James is a predator. It blows my mind that people still give him a platform. He’s all the worst things a person can possibly be.
These days my beauty channels are pretty much solely Julia Adams, Jessica Braun, Jaime Paige, and you. Gone are the days of having to watch so many. I watch who I trust and that is that.
Dang I really liked that palette. I had no idea James didn’t like that palette..I know I was influenced based on the look he did. Dang! I got fooled. But I still like it.
I think one of the biggest "oh wow, influencers really are sell outs" moments for me was seeing products raved allll over UA-cam and then looking at the purchase reviews on sephora and seeing people so annoyed and disappointed with it in reality.
So funny story about “buying from influencers”: today, my husband said “I’ve been researching Native and I’d like to try it” I asked him what led him to wanting to look in to Native ( I tried it long ago & wasn’t for me ) and he said 😂😂 “ that lady that talks while you’re in your bubble bath every weekend. I’ve heard her talk about it “ 😂😂😂😂 you Jen, you’re the lady that talks while I’m in the bubble bath 😂😂 so, he picked some up and said “if I like it, does she have a link so she gets credit?” ❤❤❤
I have quite a few favorite beauty influencers that I watch regularly. Some of them are sponsored, and some of them are not, but they are all 100% honest, and that is why I enjoy their content so much 😊
This makes me so angry. For so many reasons. At him for being a piece of trash, at people for blanketing his trash over all creators. I try so hard to be honest and let people know the good and bad about every product I review. I do skip reviewing some things, like you mentioned, from a small brand that gifted me something, but I won’t say it’s good. I’ll just skip reviewing it all together. The more products I try, yeah my thoughts on something may change, so if you go back 2 years I may have loved xyz, and today I think it’s just average, but that’s a matter of experience. Not if straight up lying. Ughhh. I’m so frustrated and annoyed that anyone gives him the time of day tbh
Sorry. Ranting 😂😂😂. I just get so frustrated. So many small creators are struggling to even get views, and people like him and MN are getting money thrown at them for lying
It's the worst when someone watches to become more confident with makeup, then they buy what's recommended and when they suck at using it, they watch the influencer more to get more skillful
Hey Jen- if you want a recommendation for nail polish, I strongly recommend Mooncat! They are so good. Not today Satan is my favorite pink ever. So pretty and classy and the way it looks in the sun 😍😍🤩🤩🤩
Oh yeah, 90% of the products I have tried that were recommended from tiktok are absolute trash. I’ve finally stopped buying anything suggested. I have a few trusted UA-camrs and their word is gold 😅
this makes me think of all the influencers who were paid to promote the Dyson Air Wrap. Admittedly some of them still use it to this day and really seem to love it. But I saw countless influencers push this $600 hair tool on their audience as "100% worth the investment" and "the last tool you'll ever need to buy". Then a year or two later, they're all doing GRWMs and they're back to using the same old metal curling wands. I remember Alana Davidson even admitting in a video about a year after she made her sponsored content that she never really used it after that because she couldn't figure out the technique and her curls didn't last the way the stylist on the brand trip made them. Of course a few months later she was out doing a sponsored video promoting the new attachments... Lying about your feelings about any product for a sponsorship is always awful, but when you're swaying your young audience to drop $600 hair tool that you don't even use yourself?? That was too much for me, it was honestly disgusting.
So I ended up getting the shark version because I was watching Elyse Myers and she compared both and foind the shark ine easier to use and is a fraction of the cost. I still use it and love it
That 39A Dare to Create Palette was the last morphe product I ever bought. If I remember correctly every Influencer was really promoting, but of course it was Morphe. I think I bought mine based of Rawbeautykristi, I didn't even realize James Charles was the face for it. I liked the Idea of all the transition shades being bigger in the middle, but it fell short for me. Every Color was just too dark inside of it, and every look became smokey. plus the size made it impossible to store, and I ended up forgetting about it.
Mikayla is proving herself in the running to be a bigger grifter liar than Jaclyn Hill. Which I never thought anyone could do.
I think the difference may be that Mikayla was found out earlier than Jaclyn, probably because of the times. Still I agree, on the same level 😵
Yeap..! I still wonder why/how is it that she keeps having so many people following her..!
Exactly. 100 %
I watched a person make soup today. He said clearly, “My video today is sponsored by BlueLand”. Then he demonstrated him using the product. He put the sponsorship information clearly in the description box. Just for reference, BlueLand is a company that creates plastic-free cleaning products. Anyways, he disclosed his connection to the company and product, he demonstrated the product, and I purchased relevant products that are useful for my home. I’ve got no problem with sponsorships or ads for companies and products you believe in and I have no problem with purchasing them myself. I have a problem when the person and company don’t disclose appropriately and when the performance is overstated, understated, or misrepresented.
You watched Jamie make clam chowder, didn’t you? I love Anti-Chef. ❤
@@livesouthernable Yes, Jamie of Anti-Chef. RIP Scott.
I was going to ask what kind of soup, but the clam chowder is a hard pass lol
@@Claire_by_the_Seashore yes, poor Scott. He gave his all for the cause. 🙏😂
@@livesouthernable He did. He was a good buddy. 🙏🏻🤣
I have never been able to stand watching James Charles. I find him annoying and I’ve always had the feeling he was fake.
You would think with all his money he’d have a better hairdresser. I can’t stand that bath mat on his head.
Ya it feels like he is playing a character at all times.
First off. This is a man who should be in jail for his actions. You think he doesn’t lie on a consistent basis. He is vile.
James does not have any integrity, there isn’t much about him that isn’t problematic. Trendmood posted his new palette and people are not having it.
I’ve got to be honest. I am over influencers doing their makeup, showing it right after it’s done, and talking about the product/giving a review. And that’s not even considering the filters and things they use to make it look it’s best. Of course it looks beautiful and buy-worthy. Sometimes even splurge-worthy. This is your job, you put the product on, and generally you take it off in ten minutes. I don’t care about how products look on you after ten minutes with filters. I’m a working person with a skin/health condition who has 15 minutes at most to get ready in the morning, and can be out of my house for twelve hours at a time. I care how products go on, wear, stay on, and feel at every point in the process. I even care about the best way to fully take them off. Those “ten minute reviews” can take a hike.
Agreed!!! I want more in-depth reviews if I’m going to consume influencer content… especially skincare!!!!
It’s bothers me so much when someone uses a skincare product one time and makes a video… like dude- it takes sometimes months! to see results… not to mention they don’t have the skin condition that product is supposedly combating…
And make up REQUIRES a wear test. I truly don’t care if it looks ok after 5 mins. How is it going to react to my face warmth, my sweat, and ✨life✨ for my work shift???
So often this format leads to bad reviews because an influencer doesn’t understand how to use a product properly or what it’s actually for.
@@willowasheright! I’ve seen so many people give bad reviews when they’re not even using the product right!!
I appreciate the ones who do wear tests of the foundation and concealer. It actually shows how it will wear throughout the day 😊
James Charles? A terrible person? Le gasp!
Act surprised 😱
I am NOT a fan of Mikayla. I heard about her just before “lash-gate” and had an instant dislike. Something about her just sets off alarm bells for me. She seems disingenuous and annoying. I usually try to watch for a while but once the mascara issue happened I stopped since she’s not trustworthy.
When Sam R made her video saying she was no longer accepting PR I think that was the end of the beauty influencer sparkle for me. Her transparency and honesty opened my eyes to how manipulative people had been, how much waste was being created, and how many businesses just didn't care (of course they don't, there businesses!) I really haven't been that into make up since and am a lot more careful about the products I buy.
@@eatmyoctopus The video was with Spill Sesh, but yeah - that video was... something.
@@zaramikazuki8374 I know! I left another comment as soon as I realised because i couldn’t find this comment so i could edit it! 😂 I’m so silly.
@@eatmyoctopusmind me asking what’s this video called? Is it recent? Curious to watch it
@@30arminda I got it wrong- it was actually Spill Sesh and it’s on her spill sesh channel 😊
Gosh, Mikayla strikes again. I'm surprised people still rely on her "honest" opinions on products by now.
Never been more proud of not having the TikTok app.
I'm glad that so many of the shady influencers have jumped from UA-cam to Tiktok. It seems like the UA-cam beauty community has a lot of smaller influencers with integrity bc everyone stopped supporting the ones who lied to get to the top. On Tiktok the shady influencers have a clean slate with an audience who don't know not to trust them.
Sooner or later they will be called out by tiktokers or better yet the people on UA-cam that called these "beauty influencers" out on youtube will go over onto Tikkok to spread the info on there as well! No where to hide the lies!
@@blueeyedscorpio7 YUP!!!!
The thing with James is that he has gotten away with so many terrible things in the past that he is pretty sure nothing will happen now smh😢
The sad thing is these people got rich by us. The general public. Made them rich. Paid for their houses etc. Best advice I ever got was , put money into your own pocket not others
Im also making the decision to stop watching people that support\push Lunar Beauty. Manny still supports James and he even said somethings in support of Colleen, so if your ok with supporting a predator protector because they send you free stuff than I don't need to know your opinion on anything else.
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In my head I made peace and this is - I watch people who support Manny but don’t actually put any money in Mannys pocket myself. So Robert, Jen, Marlena would be in that bucket of people I won’t trash/ will give views, comment, even though they support Manny. Laura Lee makes me sick, for example when everyone and their mothers positively reviewed her palette with her niece, I didn’t watch that video…but might watch other videos by the same creator.
I still haven’t watched , and won’t watch, Jens fairly recent eyeshadow swatch video because it had the Laura and Manny collab in it. That made me physically sick,
And like... I get that it can be hard to only buy makeup from ethical brands, because almost all of the affordable ones have done some really messed up stuff. But... all of these influencer brands are stupid expensive. There's no excuse for supporting actual horrible people when their makeup is like... $40 for a lipstick or whatever.
I never like it when influencers use the language of sales people. The clips of Mikaela (sp?) saying "you guys are going to love this, you're definitely going to want to try this" or "I wish I could show it to you, the packaging is so cute" turned me off because she is not giving us real information. I appreciate when people provide objective information about how the make up is working and why. Also, the tone is a big reason why I would want to keep watching. Any person giving an objective review is not going to be fawning over a product with over-the-top emotions. They will be explaining what they are excited about and have facts back it up. I would not describe myself as having a BS meter, it's more like I just cringe as soon as I feel as though someone is trying to manipulate me. Not this time, Mikaela!
Cant stand her videos for that reason. They’re all the same.
You just put my exact thoughts about Mikayla into words. She is the typical used car salesman, selling cars on a small town public service channel.
You just explained why I don’t trust certain influencers better than I could have explained myself 😂
It makes me so sad that people like James and Mikayla are peeing in the pool. 😾
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I find Mikayla annoying so i would not watch her anyways.
@@angelabrolund1373same, just listening to her grates on my nerves.
No. It should absolutely be on both the company and the influencer. Back when everyone was talking about the mascara, people brought up I think the Maybelline powder. What had happened was influencers bought the product (I imagine), used it in a video, Maybelline (in this instance) saw the video, wanted to use it to advertise the product, compensated the influencer (however they agreed to compensate) and it became part of Maybelline’s advertisement. The video on the brand’s account was clearly an ad- that’s what cosmetics companies do: sell their cosmetics BUT the influencer never went back and properly disclosed the connection to the ad for the brand. That was a perfectly fine way to do business UNTIL the influencer didn’t disclose the ad even on a past ad. Companies and the FTC can say its on the influencer all they want. And I definitely hold influencers responsible. Here’s the deal though… don’t hold the influencers you, as a million to billion dollar company, use to high standards including disclosing ads and sponsorships for the protection of your consumers? I’ll be out quicker than you can imagine. And don’t think I won’t. I just did a mass unfollowing last week of ANYONE who supports JC, CB, or any of the Morphe babes. Give me a reason to stop buying from your company. My wallet will appreciate it.
For the discussion at 27:39 I feel especially if they are willing to say something is crap and they got it in PR then I believe them more. I feel like they know by saying something negative they could get removed from the PR list and they are willing to be honest.
I remember during the time that LashGate happened earlier this year I watched a video from Lauren Mae Beauty that was sponsored by Yes Style where she reviewed a bunch of products from there and the first one she wasn't a fan of. I was like okay here is someone trustworthy bc she gave the products in a sponsored video an honest review.
Doesn’t this just come back to the old “truth in advertising” thing? Did we actually believe Jennifer Anniston was colouring her hair at home in her sink on a Friday night when she was advertising hair dye? I sure didn’t so I’ve always taken recommendations with a large grain of salt whether traditional advertising or influencer.
UA-cam and Influencers, at the time, were supposed to everyday people who had no incentive to bs. That is why people flocked to them. Social media was marked as more relatable. Now, Influencers are basically Jennifer Aniston who cosplay a Walmart cashier.
I think the difference is that you know that is an ad. With influencers you don’t know if it is an ad or a genuine opinion.
Agree. The moment it became about the money it became age old …..advertising!
Whilst putting on her Aveeno lotion? 😂
Replay crew. Thanks for wading through the nonsense 👍
I only watch you Jen and Emily Noel for any recommendations and to learn about any new things. I trust you both so much because you are so transparent about everything ❤
I watch Jessica Braun & Zabrena! They are great too!
I also enjoy Jen Phelps
47:44 😂😂 I could never stand JC or mikayla when they came out.. Glad to know some are finally waking up from their endless bullcrap!
Mikayla is really just a sales person now. Tea Spill just did a reveal on Manny’s channel.
I’m a brand owner and I am not using influencers for this EXACT reason! The brand SHOULD be responsible! We only want honest reviews and feedback! It’s truly what helps the consumer!
You’re channel is great, I don’t watch all the time, but I love your integrity!
Funny how they're talking sh!t now that morphe is no more
I am based in Asia and TikTok is prompting warnings for Influencer before they post content that seems to them as branded content or sponsored. TikTok will not let the Creator post it until they can clear it (whether it's being sponsored or not)
I feel so blessed to have found you on UA-cam. I am relearning makeup as an older woman who doesn't want to be stuck in the past.
I would have believed anyone.
OH WOW
Thank Goodness I found you.
You and Glam Gabi are all I watch and apparently I am very blessed.
Thanks so very much for your honesty. I am on a tight budget and really do save to get some things, but your reviews on the less expensive products have SAVED me Jen. You are a Blessing ❤
You talking about graphic T-shirts made me think about a maternity shirt I wore when I was pregnant with my second child; it said “close encounters of the best kind”. This was the year Steven Spielberg’s popular movie “close encounters of the third kind” came out. I also had another similarly risqué (for that time) shirt too, but can’t for the life of me remember what it said. I got quite a few comments and chuckles for both.
I LOVED my "Dare to Create palette." It was deep-skin friendly and my companion palette with my Jaclyn Hill palette for trips (I went to Europe for 2 weeks with it)! James Charles's palette format was clearly taking from this x-large Morphe palette format. I still have it...I don't have JC's palette. 😏
You have to be very talented to work with this palette. Congrats! 😊 I probably could never. 😂
I was one of those who came from a third world, worked and saved so much money for that damn palette (and you know those conversation rates) so I could make content for my YT channel (coz people like watching about new makeup) and i bought it because James said it was great. Sighs.
Agree on the benefits of a "negative" review. A few of my favorite products I bought immediately because a youtuber with different needs didnt like it, but didnt like it for the exact reason I need it. Hannah louise poston is one of my favorites for overly indepth reviews. Esp clarification on color or textures where video cant pick up accuracy. Every product i bought based on her reviews (good and bad!) has always been exactly what i was expecting.
HLP is my jam. I am melanated and matured so naturally nothing she likes would work on me, but I love her for content - her poetry of words. I sleep on her videos. So calming.
@marlbboro8091 I love that! And totally agree. I like she's branched out to other areas than just makeup just so she can talk about more things haha. LOVE the way she discusses fashion trends even though I wear the same thing day in day out.
If anyone is shocked by this it's time for a reality check bc it's a given. 90% of influencers don't care about you or how hard you work they just want your money and support so they can keep the boogie lifestyle
DST is day light saving time
Didn't catch the live, but huge hugs from San Diego!! Our very expensive paradise.
I remember buying and reviewing that palette and specifically how BAD the dark blue was💀 that’s when I realized I can’t trust influencers about morphe
OHHMG that’s wild. Not like he said back then I didn’t have the expertise I have w/ makeup today & I thought it was better than it was. I lied to benefit myself for the sponsorship money && then I got rewarded more for lying by getting collab w/ the SAME brand aka use the SAME formula && make a shit ton off of that. Gross. He def made millions!! Cuz Morphe dropped his palette cuz of everything his ego thinks dogging on their formula is funny but it looks way worse on him.
Graphic Ts are NEVER out. Period. Love yours!
I thought there was something wrong with me when I used that palette. It got so much hype and I thought it was awful. But I am no makeup artist and held onto it, eventually removing some of the shades I thought were pretty and putting them into a Z palette. Even though they looked great in the pan, I had no better luck with even this curated version and eventually tossed it. I did not know as much about Morphe’s history back then as I do now. I legit believed what influencers said because I had run a book review website for a decade and our reviews were real, so UA-cam videos must be real, right? I am a women of a certain age and I should know better, but there you have it. (my husband calls me Polly … I prefer Anna😅)
It is not news to me that he is trash. But the fact is, who teaches a literal child morals in an industry and a medium built on smoke and mirrors?
So, James Charles and LipstickNick are good friends? Isn’t she also close with Jaclyn Hill? Hmmm.., birds of a feather.
Isn't she friends with j*?
Peter Monn has been talking about Lipstick Nick recently bc she seems to be friends with every super problematic influencer....
thought that I sucked at makeup, because I couldn't get morphe stuff to work well (I had 35 O and 35 P i think)I was working as MUA at the time, but still thought that I had less talent than influencers. So this lying is harmful on many levels.
Watching JC talk about a product is like choosing to watch a 20 minute commercial
Back before most or all the 'he's bad news' came out about James Charles, I did buy the mini version of his Morphe palette (literally the only Morphe product I've ever bought) because a few of the UA-camrs I followed then liked it and I was working my way into wearing bolder colors. It seemed like an inexpensive way to dip my toe into that and it definitely was and it works well for me. Now, I've turned it into my travel palette because I won't care if it shatters or gets lost and I've replaced its role in my at-home collection with a Juvia's Place palette, which is amazing quality.
I got the Gabbi Rose brush from your rec and I love it! I’m hardly ever influenced, but I have always trusted your recs!
I got the gabby Ross brushes too! She was so nice and super helpful with questions I had too. Will definitely purchase more from her!
Mikayla actually makes me sick. To think she can sit there day after day and lie to people and they just worship her. I know this makes me sound like I'm a mean person, but I don't think I am, I wish people would stop letting people like her get away with this.
What you said about small indie brands- YES YES YES. I work with mainly smaller indie brands. When I show something from a brand, If I love it- you’re gonna know. I won’t shut up about it lol But if it’s something I’m not feeling 100%, I won’t tell you it’s great. But I will say ‘I like the color story and the artwork is great!’ I’m not going to say the shadow is wonderful if it isn’t. But I’m not going to be harmful to these small indie brands that I work with. I will usually tell the brand directly (hey your shimmers weren’t the best- the mattes had a lot of fallout- the color story just wasn’t my thing!)
But i don’t accept PR from brands I don’t like or are not interested in… so that’s why I say I’m excited about all the things. Bc I’m excited about all the things 😂😂😂
I think def finding multiple people to check out their opinions and swatches and photos is a great idea!
But ever since makaylah and lashgate, it seems like some people are very against even small influencers like myself on insta. I’ve heard some people say they would never use any influencers affiliate code even if they used their swatches or were genuinely influenced by them. But some people feel as if any influenced is out to lie to them and out to get them… which is so far from how most of us feel. When you work with brands you do need to be personable with them but it doesn’t mean that we are in cahoots with brands to lie to everyone lol it’s really quite disheartening sometimes. When you start out as a creator working with brands people are so happy for you. People congratulate you and say they’re so happy you’re getting pr! Then when you work with more and more brands you end up crossing this invisible line that you didn’t even know existed. You’ve done too much, worked with too many brands, gotten too much PR. And then noones happy for you anymore now they think you’re a liar and a sellout.
I promise we are not all liars and sellouts lol we just love makeup as much as anyone else!
I was so mad I was napping during live chat, lol. Caught the playback. Great video. 💜
If he had said that he thought it was fine at the time but through education, experience and a change of taste, he now regards it as a bad palette - that would have been totally fine in my books. But to actively endorse something that he thought was bad at the time is absolutely scamming behaviour. So glad I never started watching him!
Wow this was alot!!! And idk why anyone is shocked that james lies about his sponsorships lol also maybe you had to keep scrolling to find negative comments maybe james has been deleting some? Who knows with him honestly
Good point!
My thought too 👍🏻
Yay a shout out to my hometown, San Diego ❤!
Yes there def is a lot of influencers that only care about about the money… however, influencers like Jen, Juicyjas, Taylor Wynn, and Allie Glines I do trust. They won’t take a sponsorship for something they don’t like. They will do a sponsored post for a brand, but then also be honest about the things from the brand they don’t like❤
You, Pati Alonso and Dr. Dray are the UA-camrs I trust the most with recommendations! And I must admit I do NOT run to the store just because you all say it works, it all depends if I really think it will work for me. Many things you or Dr Day recommend do not work for me, but I find it honest because you guys go into details about pro, cons and ingredients. Been watching you for many years. I loved JenLuvReviews and I know you’ve changed your content a bit over the yeas but I still love your channel and everything you do.
I had stopped watching all makeup review sites until I stumbled on yours. You’re down to earth, and your explanations are clear. Loving it!
so basically we've gone back to regular commercials, like back in the day on tv with actresses' or models.... we know they don't use this hairspray or eye cream, she's just in the commercial, and the same thing is happening with influencers, they are just lending their face to promote something and that's not why we used to believe influencers, but now it's the reason we don't
The way Linda just had a team of liars promoting those awful palettes lmaoo
Tati did a sponsorship w/ essence about 2 mos ago now which made sense as she’s used & recommended them as long as I’ve watched her. She’s the reason I knew of & love a few things from them. Disclosed first thing but from then to now there’s been all these full face essence videos w/ NO disclosure. Like everyone just randomly decided to do a full face of essence?? Come on! I don’t watch TikTok but if I did I’d never watch mikayla. It’s gross we all know sponsorships happen just stop being shady, lying all for personal gain.
Tati shilled that wet n wild car paint foundation I fell for it, it was the worst foundation I ever used. Then it downed on me that she was full of bs
@@kettyca666I 100% agree that the foundation wasn’t the best smelling. But I do like it and I had watched multiple videos of people bringing it up. I think it’s important to note what it is you are doing when wearing it. For example I’m on online meetings all day I don’t go out in the sun. It’s a great looking foundation on camera and affordable
This is why I watch you. I just don't trust so many of them. I made a mistake of buying an influencer's eye shadow palette after hearing SO many channels say how amazing it was. It wasn't. I was so put off by the whole experience I stopped watching the channels that gave the "glowing" reviews. At least when you review stuff you always say WHY you like it and what we might not like too if you see something. Thank you for doing stuff like you do.
Girl, I paused to go get my beverage! I missed the live. Sorry. You are so much fun!!
I need that t-shirt! Where did you get that? My brother makes fun of my short arms!
I love your takes Jen. You should be moved to prime time.
In Poland, law changed recently and if influencer doesn’t use correct and transparent information about advertising in social media - influencer is paying high penalty but also client or agency.
That's why I love Angelica Nyquist! She will rant about stuff she doesn't care for! She seems so real! ❤
I tend to look at negative reviews of products and hotels because this way you have an idea of how bad it can possibly be. Some people's negative reviews will be something small that might not sway you against it like with makeup the black eyeliner not being black enough.
At this point... do we even trust that Lipstick Nik is using the exact products that are marketed? I wouldn't be surprised if she used some good products to build a coulor and then slap morphe on top of it. Also, she was besties with Jefree, now is with James? I feel that James got her to just get back at Jefree.
Morphe just tested their influencers who can sell crap so we can hire them more, I doubt that James's palette performed any better than dare to create. I almost bought the dare to create palette. Luckily instead I bought a lot of singles from Polish indie brand and I still love them.
This is why I just listen to myself, and what I know I like. I’m happy to take a company up on their policy to try a product and return it if it’s crap.
I do still follow you Jen because you dive deep into ingredients and stuff like that, which I appreciate and trust.
As far as influencers go, I don’t follow any because I don’t want to be influenced. I want to be educated. 🖤
When someone shows you who they are, the first time, believe them.
Thanks for the great video Jen. It helped me stay up while I’m feeding my new baby.
I am a member of a few review sites, within these communities I'll be sent some products to review, in the beginning i was worried to leave a negative review for fear i wouldn't be sent more products. My internal conversation was very torn, i hope I'm honest, but I'm aware that my opinion could be influenced. I try to judge fairly and never give a totally negative review, i will say what i like, who i think this product will work for and finally what i don't like. But the urge to give a good review just to get more is definitely there, and this is just a hobby, for people who depend on reviews for their livelihood i cannot imagine for how tempting it might be.
Thanks for being a woman of character. It shows through all the time. ❤
I actually have the dare to create palette and i really liked it. I still occasionally use it now.
I can’t believe he said that on social media, wtf 😳
I listen to some recommendations but what I have learned is most of those big UA-camrs are sellouts and I don’t believe them. Also some of the “best” products were shit on me I think it depends on so many things. I never got morphe I got one eyeshadow pallet and it was horrible
Graphic Tees will NEVER be out. I have spoken.
Really enjoyed this even I could not participate to live. ❤
If they say graphic tees are out, I say that person is out. So, there.
I cannot get past the fact that James is a predator. It blows my mind that people still give him a platform. He’s all the worst things a person can possibly be.
Plumping lip products give me a panic attack lol
These days my beauty channels are pretty much solely Julia Adams, Jessica Braun, Jaime Paige, and you. Gone are the days of having to watch so many. I watch who I trust and that is that.
Did you just forget ?? Or did the $$$ Just make it better.....lol
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Dang I really liked that palette. I had no idea James didn’t like that palette..I know I was influenced based on the look he did. Dang! I got fooled. But I still like it.
I got a shirt just like that for my husband for Christmas 😂
I think one of the biggest "oh wow, influencers really are sell outs" moments for me was seeing products raved allll over UA-cam and then looking at the purchase reviews on sephora and seeing people so annoyed and disappointed with it in reality.
So funny story about “buying from influencers”: today, my husband said “I’ve been researching Native and I’d like to try it” I asked him what led him to wanting to look in to Native ( I tried it long ago & wasn’t for me ) and he said 😂😂 “ that lady that talks while you’re in your bubble bath every weekend. I’ve heard her talk about it “ 😂😂😂😂 you Jen, you’re the lady that talks while I’m in the bubble bath 😂😂 so, he picked some up and said “if I like it, does she have a link so she gets credit?” ❤❤❤
Anyone who had a Morphe code = Sell Out!
In my opinion.
I have quite a few favorite beauty influencers that I watch regularly. Some of them are sponsored, and some of them are not, but they are all 100% honest, and that is why I enjoy their content so much 😊
Don’t worry, Jen. In Canada, they’re 29 dollars 😂
Hi from Montana I finery got to catch a live chat
This makes me so angry. For so many reasons. At him for being a piece of trash, at people for blanketing his trash over all creators. I try so hard to be honest and let people know the good and bad about every product I review. I do skip reviewing some things, like you mentioned, from a small brand that gifted me something, but I won’t say it’s good. I’ll just skip reviewing it all together. The more products I try, yeah my thoughts on something may change, so if you go back 2 years I may have loved xyz, and today I think it’s just average, but that’s a matter of experience. Not if straight up lying. Ughhh. I’m so frustrated and annoyed that anyone gives him the time of day tbh
Sorry. Ranting 😂😂😂. I just get so frustrated. So many small creators are struggling to even get views, and people like him and MN are getting money thrown at them for lying
I only got into makeup and beauty UA-cam in 2020 and I cannot understand how James and Jaclyn were ever popular. They are so obnoxious.
"money made it better" excellent slogan ! 😍
It's the worst when someone watches to become more confident with makeup, then they buy what's recommended and when they suck at using it, they watch the influencer more to get more skillful
Hey Jen- if you want a recommendation for nail polish, I strongly recommend Mooncat! They are so good.
Not today Satan is my favorite pink ever. So pretty and classy and the way it looks in the sun 😍😍🤩🤩🤩
Is it IMPROVING your NATURAL nails??? Does it LAST past 3 days? Thanks🙏🏻🤔❤️
Anytime I'm not teaching I'm probably in a graphic tee. I have a lot of music tees and let me tell you how many compliments I get on them!
Oh yeah, 90% of the products I have tried that were recommended from tiktok are absolute trash. I’ve finally stopped buying anything suggested. I have a few trusted UA-camrs and their word is gold 😅
this makes me think of all the influencers who were paid to promote the Dyson Air Wrap. Admittedly some of them still use it to this day and really seem to love it. But I saw countless influencers push this $600 hair tool on their audience as "100% worth the investment" and "the last tool you'll ever need to buy". Then a year or two later, they're all doing GRWMs and they're back to using the same old metal curling wands. I remember Alana Davidson even admitting in a video about a year after she made her sponsored content that she never really used it after that because she couldn't figure out the technique and her curls didn't last the way the stylist on the brand trip made them. Of course a few months later she was out doing a sponsored video promoting the new attachments...
Lying about your feelings about any product for a sponsorship is always awful, but when you're swaying your young audience to drop $600 hair tool that you don't even use yourself?? That was too much for me, it was honestly disgusting.
So I ended up getting the shark version because I was watching Elyse Myers and she compared both and foind the shark ine easier to use and is a fraction of the cost. I still use it and love it
Jen have you tried the colourpop jelly shadows?!
I've been subbed to TiD since before she was monetized. I remember when she hit 1k. She seems so honest and kind. Love her
That 39A Dare to Create Palette was the last morphe product I ever bought. If I remember correctly every Influencer was really promoting, but of course it was Morphe. I think I bought mine based of Rawbeautykristi, I didn't even realize James Charles was the face for it. I liked the Idea of all the transition shades being bigger in the middle, but it fell short for me. Every Color was just too dark inside of it, and every look became smokey. plus the size made it impossible to store, and I ended up forgetting about it.
Sorry I missed the live. I LOVE your plaid shirt Jen, it is so cute.❤
Who cares about what's in fashion? Wear what you like. Individuals' style is no one else's business.