Should EXTERIOR ALARMS Be Nerfed?
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- In this video, we discuss the possibility of nerfing Exterior Alarms, the most used Grandpa Perk in The Texas Chain Saw Massacre: Video Game!
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Lmao you guys said victims had crutches, what about EA?
Bro the MAJORITY of ppl that play this game Solo Q.
Tired of ppl complaining about this game and pretty much forcing the devs to nerf every single thing.
Nah, after seeing what they did to Grapple and Choose Flight im scared to ask for nerfs now.
Players: Exterior Alarms shouldn't work on basement doors.
GUN: Exterior alarms now has 2 charges and will only be active for 15 seconds.
Lol valid
@MegaMangaking 😂 so true. Just do away with the meta completely. No perks, no abilities; done, no more crying about what needs to be nerfed.
The way I would've done grandpa perks is this:
- Each grandpa perk has a certain level at which it becomes active, regardless of order, randomness, or what other perks are chosen. Generally stronger perks require a higher level, while weaker perks or perks that are good for setup will activate earlier. Would be interesting to see some high level perks that are strong but difficult to activate
- Some perks are always active as long as grandpa is not disabled, and their effect is based on grandpa's level, with the effect becoming stronger as he levels up. These perks will usually be the stat/number based perks, that can be X amount per level, while the unique effect perks will simply activate once you are at a certain level
only highlighting exterior doors and not basement doors sounds fair to me.
I didn't know what highlighted the doors downstairs.
I been saying this for the longest 💯
Exterior Alarms does go against the whole stealth aspect of the game as well.
You're getting punished for opening a door when you're trying to be stealthy, basically encouraging you to rush the moment you open the door.
No dude Victims are tooo fast and have too many ways to get away for them to be running freely - a nerf would be broken - this is just a top tier player issue for sure
Lmao 😂
It is. You are 100% right
They really aren't fast unless they have 50 endurance but realistically if you can't catch a victim now that's a skill issue
@@sledge7106 i know you know everyone runs 50 stamina now lmao stop it
@@juturna-2931 I got a connie spam build but I run 50 proficiency, only way I get 2 50 is on danny but he's eh. Only Time I can run forever is grapple builds or julie. And even then I don't live long since johnny 3 hits me even with 50 toughness lmao. If you still lose idk what to say tbh
Slightly off-topic but I'm a family main and think this: in family house grandpa should only spawn upstairs. That would ease the problem of survivors usually only being able to stick their heads out of the basement before the family shoo them back down.
So for the last 3-4 months lobbies have always somewhat had trouble finding family players cause there is wayyy more victim mains than family mains. So let’s just go and take away Johnny’s lunge for a while, nerf cook’s hearing and pad locks, Hitches traps at ladders, make Sissy useless with the most annoying voice work I’ve ever heard, and now take away Leatherface’s chainsaw sprint, and nerf ext alarms while we’re at it. Let’s see how many people play family after this one. Go ahead and hide the lobby timer all you want with 30 mins wait time and I still guarantee it’s timing out game after game with 4 victims waiting for a family member to join.
This doesn't even compare to the amount of victim nerfs lol
Where'd you even hear half of this lol? Second *family members* always back out when theres a nerfed danny or leland lmfao. That's why victim que times take forever cause I'm waiting for a family member. When I play family no one back outs, just quit being whining kids backing out because of a character thats already nerfed and useless
Biased
It’s a 5 second highlight….. it usually takes 5 seconds to close a gap/destroying a door so how is that remotely fair against rushing victims that I usually play at my higher level?? If anything they should buff other perks making family use other perks
3 family members can easily see the highlight they are not all destroying crawl spaces at the same time 5 sec is plenty of time you can’t miss it and if they do miss it’s there fault for not paying attention
@@GolemGomz45 so it’s there fault they got into a grapples with a rushing victim cause that’s the meta now and they only have one angle… damn I guess it is their fault when they are in a chase in one area and can’t look else where you right. Just give the victims the easiest games ever so it can die and see if he are talking in a year about this game
@@bigoldoinks1219 when did I ever talk about those thing I’m just saying exterior shouldn’t highlight basement doors
@@GolemGomz45 and I stating things that can happen where family can’t look around…. how did you not get any of that since you want to talk about family can see everything?? I’ve been in plenty of matches since the update and victims rush and grapple the family with the perk that stuns them longer so a Connie or Danny can do what they have to do so like I said how is that fair to those family players??
@@bigoldoinks1219 use leatherface he can’t be grappled, use the grandpa perk suffocating grip it actually helps and sissy can use a specific build with spore loser that helps her with losing close encounters and good communication with family can easily beat the victims, and if family doesn’t communicate that’s on them and they shouldn’t say it’s the victims fault. Just adapt just like how victims are adapting to the choose flight nerf which was a big nerf. Choose flight was overpowered I will admit but so is scout and exterior alarms, exterior should not highlight basement doors you just want easy games where the victims can’t even get out of the basement stop relying on crutch perk like exterior alarms to win games for you.
I want them to do more Stealth changes, survivors just keep rushing
Let me take my time in a house where people want me dead.
I want more endurance nerfs because victims keeps running from me
Well gun keeps nerfing stealth so there's really no point in playing stealthy
@@BestICanDoIs20LMFAO
If all these perks and everything are on the table they should have console players have the ability to turn off cross play for PC and just keep it for PlayStation and Xbox that it should be option to discard PC
We've only been asking for that since day1🥰 as soon as crossplay was disabled the game was alot more fun
As long as victims have the ability to outright remove grandpa perks by stabbing him then absolutely not I don't think this perk should be nerfed. Most every single grandpa perk is absolute dog water how about making some of them not trash before going straight to asking for nerfs for one of TWO perks worth using.
What’s the point of grandpa perks tbh bro says we pick it cuz it’s so good when all the gp perks suck. The only good ones, and in combination too are “Excited Granpa”, “Exterior Alarms”, and “Suffocating Grip” and only just recently was the latter really of any use. All others are meh or wouldn’t make much of a difference or worth getting
Nobody Escapes Hell would like a word with you lol
I think it should work something like Cooks padlocks. The family member that brings the grandpa perk, gets to mark 3 gates/doors to get alarms for the next 5 times it is opened or something (with cooldown between alarms).
I do like the idea of certain Grandpa perks being "premium," meaning either they can only be lvl 3 or can never be lvl 1. Would give Ext Alarms that little bit of a nerf to how quickly you could activate it, and give you options to run for lvl 1 or 2
Maybe the order of the grandpa perks should be in the order of the family readying up???? That way you can have 3 perks in the order you want.
Now THAT is a solid suggestion
No. Absolutely not. Nothing on family side needs a nerf, at least not until a handful of perks on Victim side gets nerfed
Grandpa perks should have a tier list. Exterior alarms should be a level 3 perk - Meaning if no other perk is selected you still have to get Gramps to a certain level to activate a given perk.
I think the basement doors change would be perfect. It's called exterior alarms after all. You don't see a highlight from a door in the top of the family house.
Riley I don't really use exterior alarms all that much but it does help when you are facing a squad a PC players that like to literally bum rush that perk does come in handy like gas station the fuse box is right out that shed they can take ladder go in a small shed pop the fuse in boom all out then u would never know because the basement was not highlighted and you play with friends try playing this game with randoms that don't talk exterior alarms is the only friend u have.
i do think it should be forcefully a level 2/3 perk but if exterior is maybe the only grandpa perk victims actually seem to stab grandpa for
i think the rush needs to be heavily removed before they nerf/remove exterior, if it is removed, rush meta is so much more powerful without it, most of the time you don't even get enough time to feed gramps depending on how fast they go. I've had people out of window less than 60 sec into the match, or connie ability, but 100% agree with you guys with the basement thing
Exterior alarms is a large factor in why victims rush so hard. When family fully set up and start feeding gramps the game becomes very family sided.
The game needs to incentivise slower, longer and STEALTHY gameplay, make family more deadly but give victims more chances to run, hide and recover eg. Some taller bushes to hide in, more hiding spots, more health pots and more but longer incapacitations before death
Again assuming that’s the only perk they put on, which in solo is not the case bro
You can't stop rushing lmao it just victims unlocking one door and going upstairs you talking like it's some sort of advanced thing that victims are doing
Rushing will nvr stop and there’s no one reason victims do it. Just don’t nerf the damn perk, simple. Lol
@@AchillesReal there is reasons for it though, the only objective is to escape, and it is significantly harder to escape the longer the game goes on. Your low skill, low effort, crutch perk needs nerfed, simple as that.
I would say to guarantee grandpa perks make a voting system where you can vote for what comes level 1.
I'd agree the doors which proc exterior alarms should be looked at. But since it has good counters (grandpa stab, used as a distraction, plus a chance family won't notice), I think it's generally fine as-is.
Exterior Alarms can be good for Victims... i needed an opening to work on Fuse Box, and the other Vics had breached the Car Battery gate, which sent part of the Family over there!
Whoa once in a blue moon 🙄
Yea I definitely believe exterior alarms shouldn’t highlight basement doors but can be chosen to be level 1 for grandpa
Also, is there a reason why other family members are watching Leatherface hang up the unplayed victim?
Like, during that cutscene Victims are already unlocking a door by the time I start my chainsaw, and because the other family members have to watch my cutscene, they lose out on valuable prep time.
Though, As a family main, I agree. Exterior Alarms should be nerfed in some way, having them not affect the basement door is a fair nerf.
Exterior is SO powerful, it is an active detriment to run any other perk, even with nobody escapes hell, if Exterior alarms is second there have been times where we have had victims out the basement, and and at a exit gate in less then 1-2 mins. So having Alarms be second instead of first, with this rush meta, is dangerous.
Alot of things need fixed and balanced.
what y’all think of this idea
make the highlight time 10 seconds instead of 5 but make it highlight the door when it gets unlocked not when it gets opened and then make it not apply to basement doors
this stops constant highlighting on the door when they return it would still be a good perk but would not be broken
The few family players that are left cannot handle more nerfs
It's not that Exterior Alarms is OP, it's that the majority of Grandpa perks are UP. Hence why most squads insist on Exterior and or No One Escapes From Hell cause little benefit is seen from the other perks to help combat the rush. So to me logic would say, make the other Grandpa Perks more viable in comparison.
To be honest playing family it’s pretty op sometimes you don’t even need a cook with exterior alarms
If it does need a nerf ( In my opinion I think it's good the way it is) I would say that it should only ding on Exterior doors on surface level and not in the basement. To me, exterior means the edge of something or the outside perimeter. Knowing which basement door is opening up is too overpowered for sure.
Eliminating it from basement doors is fair. I just think too heavy of a nerf eliminates one of the only counters to rushing. It’s kind of unfair that “victim mains” want a heavy nerf to EA and blood builds. They say it’ll promote stealth, but all I see is a prime environment for rushing.
Id rather say, Remove the Perk and make it basekit with 2.5 sec as long as Grandpa is lvl 1 and not incapped. So other Perks would be used and Stabbing Gramps would be more of a Priority even granting the Perk "You Pay for That which increases the Damage output by up to 25%. They should test that out
If folks but heads over the nerf then maybe have basement doors highlight once while all other important doors always highlight?
Exterior alarms is so easy counter. Like you and your team mates can unlock/open multiple doors at the same time, that's one of the biggest counter to Exterior alarms. I do all the time when im playing with my friends. Alternative, victims can do valve with Danny and do the fusebox.
Exterior alarms is literally the only granpa perk that help against the victims rushing (maybe nobody escapes hell too) Now victims stans want a Exterior alarms nerf? Lol
Another thought about the order of grandpa perks what if they created a tier list for grandpa perks from most op being level 3 and most useless being level 1 and made it so you had to have grandpa be at the corresponding level in order to access the perk so if the Family runs all level 3 grandpa perks they need to rush grandpa to level 3 in order for all of their perks to activate.
I like this thought although I was thinking that some perks should have diminished and increased effects based on either order or how many family members are running the perk dependent on the tier it's on?
Three exterior alarms.@@lorenzogonzales6401
This only forces the Rush even more
Can you guys at least explain what the park is before going into a discussion because I had to do separate research on what this perk actually does just to watch the video
They could also have two different match types: squads and solos
just make it only have 2 charges till grandpa yells then it resets
how would you counter a blood build hitch that traps grandpa and reaches level 5 in 3 feeding trips with excited grandpa perk
If he has a blood build, it’s unlikely that he has Venom. So double scrap up, eat the trip, instantly break out, and stab. If he’s using more than one trap, you should be able to counter him simply by pushing objectives, depending on the map.
Nah. I feel like until Quick Match gives you both Family and Victim roles, don’t nerf family
No sir… I think it’s the only deterrent for solo que. I think it should only be once when it gets unlocked and that’s it….maybe on just the doors that lead to the exit like family house doors….red doors for gas station and slaughter house door…main door at Nancy’s house and gate and blue door leading to battery. I think those doors should be the only highlight.. but I don’t even know anymore this game has been loosing me slowly like I love it to death but either have a team with no coms, rushing teams, just ughh solo que is hella rough…
It should never be limited to how many times it would highlight the door. Large maps like SH and Nancy's house rely heavily on those highlights to keep up with victims, and Grandpa is always near a well or gap on those maps, so Exterior has a fair counter by stabbing grandpa, and sometimes Exterior Alarms fails to trigger.
I think the nerf by basement doors not highlighting is fair, but actual exterior doors should remain untouched and not limited to how many times it would highlight.
Get good.
@@LelandMcKinney_ Right. Straight bum that needs his crutches. Shout out to the good family mains that win with skills and don't have to abuse this crutch perk.
@@LelandMcKinney_ Ironic considering you can't stab grandpa as Leland
@@trippy_bri ironic as you can’t get it up.
Tbh, I think when someone opens a door not in the basement, it should be highlighted, not even as a perk. Being a victim in this game is way too easy
To go the opposite, I think that even if you have the same Gpa perk, you should have it on more than once, I’ve been in a game where every family member had EA, it would be nice to have it all 3 levels in case they do stab Gpa. I also think there’s strats against EA, open one door then run to another that’s already open, EA can bite you.
I am main familly, but to be honest this perk is broken. You can't do nothing stealth, because the killers always will know where you go attempt escape.
make it to where if you put on one grandpa perk then it goes to level 3 and if you put two then it would go to 3 and 2 instead of 1 and 2 because then it would stop people abusing it
maybe like a vote system in the game, like ones grampa gets a lvl every family member needs to vote real quick which perk they want
Why not just make it so if the family only puts one perk on it will still be random if it will be level 1,2 or 3 on grampa? The exterior alarms only meta is killing all the other perks but too powerful not to use.If you make it that it doesn't work on basement doors then it's pretty much useless.
They need to and the option for the family chose the order of the granpa perks.
F the nerf what they should do is,they should remove the cut scene of Leatherface killing the victim that's if nobody picks him but if they do leave the scene in,if no one picks him then cut cut it out because Everytime when the scene ends the victims are already out of the basement and already getting out of fixing the box that sh*t gets annoying.
It should get nerf, it’s the only perk family will sacrifice two other perks just for one. People don’t even do that for “no one escape hell” it should not work on basement doors I agree.
Could we just play the game online without perks for all players within a match? The whole perk meta game is ruining things for new players
I think the random order of the perks is def a nerf. All you got to do is have somone with agitator to bring down the levels. Collecting blood is a risk because your dedicating time to go find the buckets and in some cases you have unlock and relock the gates (slaughterhouse, gas station.), leaving maybe 1 or 2 killers in the main area of the map. And on top of that, theres the cool down for the buckets.
Short answer: No.
Long answer: The opposite of yes.
You could have the order picked based on who ready's up first.
The gates by the Family House 🏠 car battery also turn yellow.
I don't think it should be nerfed, other grandpa perks need buffed. if you have no perks on the same level as it, all that happens is no one feeds grandpa till there's one victim left. It'd be cool if you never got chewed out by your team for running literally anything that's not No One Escapes Hell or Suffocating Grip when someone has Exterior Alarms, because bringing no perk is better than anything else you can bring.
If they did this, I think when grandpa is levelled up, it should also warn the victims which grandpa perk just activated too
nerfing family who is already the weaker side? doesn't seem like the brightest idea
Exterior Alarms should be nerfed, yes, because it is a contradictory perk. Devs want victims to play stealthy, the maps are full of nuggets, Choose Flight was nerfed to stop the rush meta...but hey!!! It doesn't matter how stealthy you are. Because when you open a door we will know! WTF! Solution? Oooohh stab Grandpa! The least stealthy thing in the world! Or open the door on the side of the slaughterhouse (pressure door side) before Grandpa is at level 1 (WTF?) So the victims have to be stealthy, but rush, stealthy, but stab Grandpa.
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Grampa perks shouldn't get nerfed so victim mains shouldn't complain if that becomes a thing
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Or what if they redid the perk entirely, and instead of a visual thing, made it an actual alarm bell that could be heard like the battery or generator shutting off? You'd have to have the audio cue awareness to know which door opened, and could even be unsure if it was a spot where it could be a couple different doors (family house, im looking at you)
Nah that sounds like a force and doing too much. It shouldn't work for basement doors, that's it
Exterior alarms is only active for a very short time if the Victim team is any good. Gpa stabbing is a META and 500 points is a good motive to do it. I think if Exterior is nerfed, points for stabbing Gpa should be nerfed too. The XP difference between Victims and Family is so unbalanced as it is.
No don't nerf EA
Sure… if stabbing grandpa is nerfed then you could nerf this.
As a family main, I think it needs a nerf. Maybe make it only be able to be the 2nd or 3rd granpa perk. If only one person has it set as a granpa perk it will still be set for 2nd or 3rd slot during game.
You guys keep killing the game with these ideas tbh when there’s bigger things to address
This will force Rush even more, when play solos q, or escape before grandpa lvl 3 or you are death.
@@SuperBabyMario0Cyou’re tripping
Alright dawg and what does that have to do with anything related to TCM?
Gotta love when victim mains claim "as a family main, this family perk needs a nerf." Nah, we know which side you really play and just think it gives your argument validation.
Maybe it should have diminished effects if multiple people run it? And then maybe implement certain perks get buffed while others get nerfed if multiple people run it?
And if its just getting nerfed then maybe revert johnny and cook nerf. More johnny than cook but nonetheless
I think exterior alarms shouldn’t be able to be your first gp perk
Idk I’ve mained family since launch even when it’s used I’m already in a chase half the time or collecting blood to notice it anyway and on victim side I always try to have a plan B if a family member comes to the door or ladder etc try to get to a safe zone I don’t think it’s as oppressive as some make it out to be…but the new grappling had an ana other day win the encounter grab another bone scrap could move but not attack and do it again ended up getting her but think that’s more of an issue than a door they may just unlock/open not come up out of anyway or see…maybe it should only work on basement doors instead of say Nancy’s house sliding doors/escape fences etc…
Nah. It’s fine the way it is, as a family man. (Not a shamed of that) we need some slack. Lol
Victims are getting the best treatment right now. Victims can be quick as lightening strikes.
I’m just waiting for the ability for Leatherface to throw his chainsaw but you risk of breaking it and having to get a new engine. Lol. I want more TACTICS.
It should only be able to be a 3rd gpa perk.
Just bring every other family perk in line with it, I dont understand the nerf nerf nerf argument.
I run agitator everygame if nobody else is running it to absolutely ruin any solidarity the family were gonna get from their grandpa perks.
Like come on... Who's using the chicken perk or the one that refills stamina when the old man screams 💀
Don't you dare talk shit about Animal Farm like that...
I would say no until solo queue has better perks to coordinate
There is no other issue worse than solo queue in this game especially family side
when they nerf scout? choose flight nerf but hitchhiker chase perks still not nerfed
They say they want to stop rush and encourage stealth but the rules of the game contradict that. It’s really weird.
I have been using suffocating grip perk and hoping that the other 2 one has alarms lol
I just clicked on the video & before I even watch im gonna say unarguably yes.
I would just make it work on all the doors it currently works on but give it a 1-2 minute CD once the door has been triggered.
Cooldowns for this could be very dangerous.
@@jasondavis2995 that's the point, you have to clear the area and can't just blindly rely on it to cover for your mistakes
Thank you!! I been saying that perk is op
Mannnnnnnnn nerf family hitbox this man is 2 streets away from me and im still gettin hit😂
Yes
I play victims and killers. I dont see an issue with it.
I mean if the family doesnt get the blood in time most of everybody rushes anyways.
I say keep it.... its already victim sided now
Meanwhile Johnny kills me with 3 hits 🤣
No nerfs please
Oh plz, no tears
Bruh we gotta stop with the nerf questions. How about buffs and additions?
I immediately get attacked by family mains the times I’ve posted this on the subreddit but literally if we make Exterior Alarms a level 3 grandpa perks (grandpa perks in general should have this) then it would solve 90% of the issue. If you are caught in the family house basement with exterior alarms. Unless you have agitator or a competent teammate then you are stuck in the cycle of stabbing grandpa, getting pushed down stairs, repeat. Family shouldn’t be able to run it as a single perk and gain its level 3 worth of value for free. It’s too much value for minimal work. In general it’s too easy to feed grandpa levels even with zero kills. It’s ridiculous, I played a game the other day and was stabbing grandpa all game without even taking any swings yet they kept leveling him up with zero kills. The trade off for wanting to speedrun exterior alarms at level 3 should be family having at least one member with a blood build.
Maybe you are forgetting that if they run it as the only grandpa perk, they are missing out on 2 other perks that could help them and their team. Losing 2 perks for 1 sounds like a decent tradeoff.
Hey will you do a special stream playing 8th year anniversary of dead by daylight
I think it should be whever levels up grandpa first gets there perk first and so on
Eh, but then me busting my ass to get 95 (or I've even seen 100 blood not level grandpa up), and johny busts in with his 5 blood he got from one swing and steals the GPA perk. Great, now we have windoom on gas station. Thanks.
As family inly player the only nerf if stop hilght of basement doors other then that absolutely not u cant even use it half time cuz victims stab grandpa or other player have random perks anyways apex legends is my main game so i dont care if tcm dies since its so victim sided
They should buff it and not only highlight the door but the person opening it too! haha.
Yes it should!!!!!!!!!
I think it’s overused and ppl use it as a crutch for lack of communication LMFAO
It shouldn’t exist at all.
Get back in that basement!
I think they should do charges with them
Stfu if you losing to Exterior alarms you suck
Nope, but I’m a biased family main.
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No
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