My EF XR6 is at 513,000 now and still going strong. It's amazing what regular maintenance can do. Those door locks though, what a sh^tshow. As for the comment section, just like Facebook groups etc. It's a cesspool of clowns trying to take the wind out of your sails. Some people haven't realised that being edgy to strangers on the internet isn't a whole personality. You guys are doing a great job with the resources available. Keep it up.
That sounds normal. My EB2 had done 560,000 when I sold it. I replaced the engine at 500,000 due to oil leaks (I should have just fixed the leaks). Still had it's original gearbox, diff and door lock actuators. The gearbox and diff had the occasional oil change and I replaced the clutch a couple of times but you expect that.
I've got a BA with 558,000km still on it original engine and transmission. I ended up rebuilding the diff at 525,000km. Did the diff bushes at 365,000km & other stuff like ball joints and what not. But I've never done a ignition barrel in my B-Series & I had the thing for nearly 16 years.
@@madhardcorenick One of my BA's has done similar KM. The ignition switch disintegrating is pretty much the only common BA problem I have not suffered. Trans cooler was done before I bought the car, It's on it's third set of diff bushes and there is no heater on the passenger side. Previous owner did a blend door shaft a while before I bought the car. 3 months after buying it I'm forking out $1800 for blend door shafts and doors (they were the main problem) HIM and drivers side stepper motor. I took it off the road in 2019 due to a bunch of things breaking all at once. My second BA Ghia has done mid 300,000's and its a rock solid reliable car with no heater on the passenger side. I did replace the engine when I first got it as the old one ran rough and a cracked sump from the car being too low (yeah I fixed that too).
Never had that problem b4, but then again three of my four Falcons were Wagons XF, EL & AUII , & the other one was an XC Panel Van so........ , but just don't mention the door handles on the XC & XF ! Grrrrrrrr !!!!.
Why all the negative spite towards you? Your videos are very helpful and informative. When you identify the "warts" of Holdens and Fords, it helps us to understand why Ford started the exodus and killed off our local car industry. So much for trusting foreign owned means of production. Their penny pinching, cheap shortcuts, failure to honour warranties, and dodgy components ruined otherwise brilliant vehicles and largely contributed to the end of manufacturing. I appreciate your work and info gathering. Thanks. I own and maintain 2 Falcons.
My dad recently upgraded to a 2020 Toyota Camry Hybrid and he's letting me drive his 2009 Toyota Aurion Sportivo SX6...i'll be saving up to buy it off him this year...and once i do own it I plan to keep it long term...they're beast of a car.
@@JeffPerson Yeah, it's teh V6 model...Here in Australia we call them Aurions they stopped making them after their 2018 model and resorted to Camrys instead. Love those cars 2GR-FE engines are dope.
It all comes down to $$ & whether someone thinks a car justifies having the $$ & time put into it....rust & panel damage are a bigger problem than mechanical issues.. ..some car models are not worth saving from the wrecking yard....yeah Toyota/Lexus are very good cars.....personally...I'd be going 2gr but in a rear wheel drive....so that's Lexus IS...GS...Mark X & Crown. ...fuckin awesome cars
Enjoy them now before they're all gone, in 2020/21 83,000 BA falcon sedans and wagons were still registered. Its a shame, they sold 73,000 BA falcon sedans and wagons alone in 2003. I hope people do start to take care of Australian made cars before they're all gone.
@@blake18998 Dude, 73,000 ba wagons and sedans were sold just in 2003. But there are only 83,000 ba falcon wagon and sedans registered in 2021, which means all BA falcons from 2002-2005 there are only 83,000 left, which is a very low number.
Of course a significant number of Falcons will end up at the wreckers, they made an S load of them. The host frequently quotes what some of the repairs would cost and cites this as the reason they get scrapped. Makes sense. But for guys like him (and me) access to these cars to score cheap, serviceable parts, means we don't pay those inflated repair prices, and we keep our cars on the road. It would be more interesting to know which cars don't end up at a wrecker's because no one wants them or repairs them. Yes, I'm looking at you Holden Cruze!
I'm a boomer and I think you did a good job on this video. I even subbed. I've got 2 BA wagons, and I love them. Leaf springs so no silly problems there. I do all of my own maintenance; they are relatively easy to work on. Keep up the good work.
@@tinysherpa7180 Yes, all of those recurring problems. I've replaced all the motors and worm gear in the locks, twice. One of them has the hood release tucked up in a broken state. Not going to worry about the handbrake, it still works. You didn't mention the ongoing front end problems and the sagging headliner.
All cars end up in junkyards. It’s astounding the number of old Falcon wagons, utes, trays and the like being used by tradesmen that are doing daily work some times forty years after manufacture. I’ve owned many brands over the past 56 years and, if I had to do it again it’d be Toyota for small and medium cars and Falcon for larger sedans, utes and wagons.
re the dash spears ,i don't know why but there worth a million bucks on market place ( probably about to explain why), people always snap them in half because there too much of a hurry to get them off without taking the 26 screws to remove the glove box housing then snapping off one tab under the door rubber/dash side making it 27 screws and then undo the 2x 7mm nuts holding the spears on , the plastic is quite strong
Far worse than that with car manufacturers making cars now that can only be serviced at a dealer and all this cheap safety tech in them simply to get a 5* crash rating and cameras in them watching everything you do to report back to your insurance company. I have a work supplied car with this cheap safety tech in it and part of my job involves driving through park land areas and the crash sensor screamed it's head off. Got out of the car to have at what I was about to crash into and it was just one long blade of grass. Useless safety tech like the speed monitoring that beeps it's head off at 5am for a school zone speed limit. If it was my own car I'd rip the fuse out for the safety tech.
I want to restore a number of Falcons (EA, EB Series II, EF and EL) to Concourse Condition as a tribute to my grandparents. We need more Ford museums in this country before these Falcons go extinct!
My old 1998 Ford Fairmont AU isn't dead yet. It just hit 290,000 Km which is quite a milestone as it hasn't had the greatest life. Its old and tired has quite a few things wrong with but it keeps going. Yes mine has quite a few wrecker parts put into it and a few aftermarket parts. Its been an amazing car and will be sad when it does die or rust out. I will mourn its loss. Its a comfy ugly cockroach but I love it.
@@BrentonCrude Did that to my FG G6E as soon as the warranty expired back in 2012 and never had a problem. It's no brainer really $500 for the external cooler against 8-10K for a new ZF 6 speed transmission. That gets serviced every 50K km.
I love the wreaker videos! Can you make more please? It so sad we don't have any ones in NSW that you can pull your own parts. I love going to the ones in Vic.
Yeah has been a long time since you could walk around a wrecker in n.s.w and look for good parts now it's take what your given or spend another 12months looking for part🔥💩🏡🚪🇦🇺
Oh yeah, the Blacktown facility was a great loss. People from all over Sydney want there and I had some great car related chats and knowledge exchanges there.
Love these wrecker videos Nathan - keep 'em coming-very informative and enjoyable. Camera work made me a little motion sick, but that's all good. Don't worry about the haters either - you are conveying the picture as it is. Well done
Look at the Valiant, best car made. People drove them into the ground. Same thing with falcons and commodores now. My fg turbo is pretty good, alternator went but i look after it. My Valiant 318 has over a million ks. Maintenance is the key. Parts are cheap for falcons so thats another bonus. My vy ss is a great machine to. Worst was my vz Alloytec. Still got 280,000ks out of it.
Dad's still driving the family charger around, 260,000 on the clock and all original, kept in a garage and once my brothers grew up it was never driven in the rain as he hates washing cars(he's 85). Will probably still be going strong in ten years time.
After 40 years Ford I had enough. I spend a lot of money for service and repaires on my Falcons and Territorys and ... they never break down, right, but they have also always problems. Driving a Ford is like to walk with a stone in your shoe. AND .... after 10 years and 1 day you can't buy parts anymore. So I drove a excellent EL Falcon with switches hanging on cables out of the dash, and a one owner Territory where I had to screw the backdoor regulary on because you can't buy hinges anymore and the typical break on a Territory. After 40 years throwing my money in bottemless barrels I bought a Mazda AND .... can drive without repaires and without troubles.
Oh geez, I love this video especially the part the end where you go through the comments and pick you out our smartest people that have had their input on your video. All their input is doing is giving you content to create I find it genuinely hilarious when people like this comment this stuff. Also, where this one guy called you a baby boomer and the new continued to talk about having a real job in the real world... Why do I feel like that part may have been heavily edited 😂 Any real person that follows you on UA-cam or anywhere of the likes has it general basic idea of what you may or may not do outside of this video. Anyway I'd really love to see the unedited version of that final clip. Keep doing you!
Good work, Nathan. I like your work, and yes, I am a real live boomer. I have had a lot of Falcons in my business and personal fleet. I have not experienced most if not all the faults stated. However, I have never kept a Falcon Territory or Commodore past 300,000. I do maintain my cars and only buy new or well serviced vehicles.
Au egas ute I had put 520,000klms on it before I traded it.Original engine and gearbox not burning oil at all. Replaced egas mixer diaphram, one worn power steering pump and two alternators because the power steering connection leaks on them. Two sets rear wheel bearings and ignition barrel and second hand pair of thermo fans.Most of maint myself.
Most cars have indiviual faults like this that their owners are too dumb or lazy to fix. Even BMWs have such faults, but you'll find many of the 20+ year old bimmers are on the road because the owners do all their own mechanicals, as the average person cannot afford to get it done in a shop. Also, I dont understand the throw away mentality.Ive driven the same car for 35 years. 900kgs, RWD, and costs me peanuts to maintain. I love it. IT doesnt have any of these faults you highlighted either.
They get driven into the ground by the average owner. Most of the B series Falcons that come through my shop are in poor condition. You get the odd 1 or 2 that are pretty good though.
This is a bit sad, exactly the same sort of thing was happening with XA, XB ,XC coupes, Monaros, Chargers, etc in the late 80s and 90s, not worth much and a tiny bit of rust , damage, yellow stickers, and/or minor mechanical problems saw them getting scrapped, look at their values and desirability now :/ Wish I had a time machine.., will the same sort of thing happen with some of these fords??, probably, save a couple if you can I reckon..
This is a bit sad, exactly the same sort of thing was happening with XA, XB ,XC coupes, Monaros, Chargers, etc in the late 80s and 90s, not worth much and a tiny bit of rust , damage, yellow stickers, and/or minor mechanical problems saw them getting scrapped, look at their values and desirability now :/ Wish I had a time machine.., will the same sort of thing happen with some of these fords??, probably, save a couple if you can I reckon..
Frank’s pick a part at Smithfield western Sydney, me and brother would spend all day there in the 80’s and 90’s. Heaps of XA, XB, XC falcons. Also lots of ZG, ZH fairlanes. It was like a buffet restaurant only with car parts. Used to remember waiting for the Trading Post to come out on a Wednesday. You’d have wrecking whole cars section. Used to have XB GT’s advertised as wrecking whole car. They were worth more as parts than as a complete car back in 1991. Most people just wanted the 351 Clevo and the bonnet and grill, the rest of the car was complete.
Very informative video for the most part and thanks for making it but here’s more info. Key barrels rarely if ever fail. It’s the ignition switch that fails with the symptoms you describe. When you swap the columns to repair it you usually put the old barrel into the new column so you don’t have to get everything programmed. El went back to a distributor because the distributor less system on the EF didn’t quite work. I could still see the lock actuator in the bottom corner of that EL drivers door.
Key barrel in my EF basically exploded into two pieces. Not sure about the BAs. I remember it being a Bosch part though so I don't even blame Ford. And the OG coil pack is still in it afaik. Door handles keep getting swapped around as they go limp, shame there's too many little cheap plastic mechanical parts to snap, but its not a Falcon thing its a general car thing still going on with new cars.
@@jjm1133 Definitely the key barrel exploded? The bit you put the key in and not the switch with the wires on it? The ignition lock is three separate pieces. Key barrel, lock assembly (the bit that clamps to the column) and ignition switch. People often mistakenly call this three piece assembly the ignition barrel.
My ba wagon mk2 has done just uner 400k regular maintenance at 10,000 never had any real issues. Runs very well and it hasn't had a easy life being babied.
My mate bought a ef Fairmont sedan many years ago with new paint job for 2thousand dollars drove it for 5years it was extremely reliable hardly cost him anything 👍👍
Sold my last Falcon for $650 although there wasnt really anything wrong with it. It had 1 month rego left and only needed tyres and brake pads, and probably a new clutch . I knew if I spent $3000 on it the value would maybe increase to $2000 max. The young guys in their 20s just dont want them anymore, they are considered "grandpa" cars now and not exactly the kind of car to impress the girls.But they are still the best value for money as long as you dont mind being uncool
Commodore owner here (up the vs). I did own a ba xr6t and i was def fastest car i own and i did enjoy it. But i had to spend so much time and a little bit of $$ getting it blueslipped (was vic rego and im in nsw and was also out of rego) and a bit on fixing a few things here and there. But just didnt get the time to enjoy it and to much to learn, and being my 3rd car i just had to get rid of it for another commo as it was familiar territory. But yes, door handles are so damn flimsy. Hate the interior, so much flimsy pieces plus its quite ugly imho. Ill just stick to my slow manual eco wags. Which sad to see less vs's in scrapyards. Harder to find so many parts without spending way to much.
I used to own an EF, the distributor is an improvement because it's reliable. The coil packs on EFs fail ALL THE DAMN TIME and they're located underneath the intake. Mine actually had a cracked head as well, and yes, I ran it with the cracked head. I seriously considered Barra swapping mine...or really anything swapping it (even briefly thought of a 2.0 TDI), but there was just too much wrong with it so I flogged it off for $300 and it continued to fall apart after that
Sounds like the mighty AU is the way to go... I've had my AU XR8 for almost 22 years and been so reliable - but must admit I had some boot rust repaired years ago and is still all good. Also, the headliner is good as gold - it does have a sunroof which might help
Our family car is a 2002 AU series three wagon, dad bought it as a demonstrator early in 2003 and saved a few thousand, it is the best car we have owned, still looks like new, in fact when downtown people comment on how good it looks, but mate, with any car no matter the make whether you get a good car or bad is the luck of the draw.
I don’t know about Falcons being as bad as what you reckon, I have had my FG XR-6 series one since new along with a couple of other brand cars that are also highly regarded and which I might add is not devoid of some similar problems and more expensive to fix, sure there’s some issues with Falcons here and there with them but they can easily be rectified with improved aftermarket items such as centre bearings and diff bushes which my car has been rectified with and now it’s a fully reliable unit that’s going to last for many years to come, also it’s really how one looks after their cars as let’s face it Falcons were relatively inexpensive in the first place and most people traded them up after four or five years and buyers after a used family or a car with a bit of performance bought them and drive them into the ground, never looked after them just the same as people who bought Mitsubishi Magnas years ago as when was the last time you saw one of those getting around especially in the cities, as they were cheap to buy for a second car on the used market also, I look after my FG and it is still in pristine condition even after fifteen years and will last at least that again no problems!
I started in an ea falcon 5 speed manual. It must have at least done 500000ks. l retired it when the head went!!! After l put chemiweld in it, it ran for another year, and then the clutch housing also let go it was too expensive to fix. So l changed to an ef xr6. I loved it, it was so much better to drive the power the handling it was an amazing car to own l was absolutely impressed with it. Now im in a TJ Magna Vrx and have been for about 15 years it just hit the 400000k mark and still going strong with absolutely no issues since owning!!! Although I have taken care of all these cars to get the higher kms out of them!!! I love all the cars of this era regardless of what model they are it felt like the manufacturer was working really hard to deliver you one of their best cars and working really hard to get people to buy them. If you drove home in a Holden, Ford, Mitsubishi, they just felt pristine. Especially in the late 90s early 2000s!!!
Owned a few falcons, and always thought frequent niggly repairs were a given for any car. Until I bought a Toyota and realised these falcons are just horribly engineered. Most falcons for sale usually have a huge list of stuff that's been replaced or repaired to keep it on the road. Speaks volumes.
Something else that kills Falcons but it affects XH and FGX more than other models. Availability of parts. XH and FGX weren't huge sellers on the grand scheme of things and have a lot of bespoke parts that no other models have. Bonnet, front guards and back bumpers for instance. Bend any of those and your insurance company is more likely to write the car off than go chasing hard to get parts if they can't just get them from the local Ford dealer.
The other reason they end up at the Wreckers is because they sell. People that maintain the Falcons go to them for parts. I had an AU for ages that I basically kept together for spare change thanks to Pick n Payless in Blacktown when I was broke AF during my 20s. Didn't get rid of it until it hit 450,000kms and even then, it ran fine - I just got given a newer car by a relative.
they are so ubiquitous that they became a dime a dozen used, so things what would be worth doing on other cars became not worth it for things like the base falcons and commodores. Good to see that they still sucked at making door handles, they were even bad back in the 70s still haha my old falcon just had all radiator hoses start to go, and same for my fiesta too
not a ford guy but the ammount of unwrecked ute shells at my local wreckers is staggering how people arent building modern 1 tonner style utes out of them just baffles me. one of the few legal cars you can have with a frame and no wieght under the rears and there just rows of them been discarded.
Definitely agree. Most car owners run them into the ground. I'm fixing up a 2010 bf wagon, all brakes gone. The rest is worn, 260,000km. The auto fluid was black. They just need work to stop them failing.
Q: Why do Falcons end up at the wreckers? A: Same as any good car; most people these days don't actually 'know' thier car (how to drive and/or maintain it properly). I live and do most of my driving in rural areas, and a constant out here is this: one of the most common models driven by working-class rural people is some form of Ford Falcon. My own 2009 FG has done over 300,000km total (near 200,000km by me the past 7 years), survived 3 'roo strikes and kept going, and I'm now doing a series of upgrades so I can keep her running for another 300,000km. Every make/model of car has it's 'quirks', but if you know what to expect, how to fix what does break, and actually look after the car, she'll look after you. PS: Sagging headliners - "This will cost you probably 2-300 bucks to redo..." Or, you could just do what I did, spend about $30 on some decent sprayfix, a little of your time/effort, and reskin it yourself (with new material of your own choice, even). It amazes me how little people know/care how to do even simple repairs on thier own cars now.
It is the lower ball joints on the territory SY1, But the setup was revised in SY2 model or 09+. Cheap tow rigs if your prepared to spend some coin and upgrade to sy2 knuckles
Still daily driving my EF Fairmont @ 380k. Needs very little repair wise - the last was an alternator in '22. I do need to swap out the cracked evaporator to get the A/C going again, but other than that it's just been just normal maintenance.
I worked at Ford 96/97 and you asked about the EL distributor - simple answer cost cutting which they did continuously during model life especially mid life update another example being the wheel mounts which are hydraulic on EF but inferior rubber mounts on EL. Oh and yes I was directly involved with the door lock actuator epidemic at the time. Was never really resolved until they went to all new actuators in AU. Despite all this I still love the Falcon as a better engineered and built car than its big rival - I also used to visit all the component supplies and Falcon used better quality components than Holden eg. Bosch vs inferior alternatives
I recall reading years ago that the reason EL's went back to distributors was because the EFs coil pack system was at the timesuper unreliable and customers weren't happy. It was obviously fixed by the AU though. Given ELs are now 30 years old odds are any unreliable ignition parts have been long since replaced.
1:35 some EF coil packs had some issues, as they were the first Falcon's with coil packs. Whilst Ford were developing a solution, they basically retro-fitted dizzy's to EL's as an interim solution until the coil packs made a return (new and improved) in the AU.
We have a love/hate relationship with our Falcon… thing went lime shit off a shovel, whenthe intermittant electric fault allowed it to do so… spent quite some dollars chasing the fault, but no-one was able to find it; neither Ford dealers, nor private garages, so it was sold to a young fella with full disclosure who reckoned he knew what the problem was. The Territory is, indeed, a stout vehicle…IF YOU MAINTAIN THE THING!! Love ours to bits and service it every 10k; it just rumbles along serenely!! i can’t understand why people hate on this sort of thing: are they that desperately involved with their cars that they cannot bear any criticism, I wonder?!
All the wreckers near me have more commodores than falcons. The main reason most falcons/commodores end up in a wreckers is insurance companies, they stat write them off for a couple hundred dollar repair.
I am from south Africa and i would love to spend some time in that recking yard going through all that falcons and supply myself with all the parts i need to get my ef futura automatic and ef xr6 Manual back to like it was when i bought it.
My wreckers here ended up squashing all the Holden's and fords and used them for scrap and now turned to a full metal recycling centre and don't sell any parts anymore because they scrapped every side car and car part they had
@vilemerchant this could be true as a while before they turned to scrap metal they also stopped people from going out the back and getting parts etc like they are doing in the video as they claimed it to be to dangerous for people to be out there
Yeah public liability bull shit this country was built on danger to the public I miss roaming around wreckers even the local tips are hard to access now hate seeing perfectly good straight cars being crushed without at least saving the good bits 🔥🐃💩🏡🚪🇦🇺
Less and less commodores and falcons available and now we are just a international dumping ground for poor quality shit vehicles the justification for wrecking yards is becoming less and less just scrap it every 5 years or less and buy another environmental disaster, think falcons are bad with their shock horror sagging shit roof linings that all modern cars get if they were as built as well as a falcon was built to last or $15 for a eBay kit to fix the door locks winter really is coming as far as affordable easy to work on and cheap to repair vehicles are concerned we once made the best
I had 1999 falcon Ghia, with the beautiful tickford motor. Never had any issues with it and I never serviced it, just kept going and going until I lent it to a mate. She ain’t going no more 😭
Loved the XF except for replacing door handles. Got a Gas BF and the roof fabric needs attention for sure and ignition barrel, I changed keys. They'll probably delete Gas from the market before the Barra dies.
IDK mate you say $1500 for car and that again for bits, but I think we gotta expect that's that norm. Honestly that's minimum to put into a good runabout to get on the road. to get a car without the problems but is the same age and not expect those problems to show up in the very near future is naive. What's the other option a newer car, lol. That's not anymore reliable then an old car
I've had 2 BA's and liked/hated them both. The series 2 BA wagon had heaps of room in the back (I used it as a handyman vehicle) and the series 1 sedan was a good tow vehicle (I suggest trailer brakes though).
Loved My BF fairmont and owned it since 2006, but nothing last forever. A few months ago after half a million kms the worn out parts exceeded the value and i had to let her go to the junkyard. All cars have their faults, and there a plenty of areas that ford cut corners sadly, as far as build quality hondas and toyotas of the era were built better, but I can't help but miss that nice big smooth inline 6. You'll never see that again in a production car.
It all depends on how much you love your falcon/insert other older car, and how much you like/don't like new cars. I hate the crap in new cars (in fact, it seems be getting worse with each new release), so I don't pay any mind to how much my car is worth, I just fix any issues that crop up, as I really enjoy driving my falcon, and it has everything just the way I like it. As for haters...bro, it's the internet. A lot of clowns become very tough and couragous with their face behind a screen and some distance. Water off a ducks back.
It's not the falcon, it's the people who own them
That’s 100% correct
Same here in NZ
Correct..Falcons are amazing cars! Few faults but every car has it faults
No it’s the car.
Car engines are good, it’s everything else around the engine that’s the problem, including the trailer trash who buy them these days.
My EF XR6 is at 513,000 now and still going strong.
It's amazing what regular maintenance can do.
Those door locks though, what a sh^tshow.
As for the comment section, just like Facebook groups etc. It's a cesspool of clowns trying to take the wind out of your sails. Some people haven't realised that being edgy to strangers on the internet isn't a whole personality.
You guys are doing a great job with the resources available. Keep it up.
That sounds normal. My EB2 had done 560,000 when I sold it. I replaced the engine at 500,000 due to oil leaks (I should have just fixed the leaks). Still had it's original gearbox, diff and door lock actuators. The gearbox and diff had the occasional oil change and I replaced the clutch a couple of times but you expect that.
I've got a BA with 558,000km still on it original engine and transmission. I ended up rebuilding the diff at 525,000km. Did the diff bushes at 365,000km & other stuff like ball joints and what not. But I've never done a ignition barrel in my B-Series & I had the thing for nearly 16 years.
@jamesforge8107 yeah my front main seal leaks like a sieve. But I don't care lol
@@madhardcorenick One of my BA's has done similar KM. The ignition switch disintegrating is pretty much the only common BA problem I have not suffered. Trans cooler was done before I bought the car, It's on it's third set of diff bushes and there is no heater on the passenger side. Previous owner did a blend door shaft a while before I bought the car. 3 months after buying it I'm forking out $1800 for blend door shafts and doors (they were the main problem) HIM and drivers side stepper motor. I took it off the road in 2019 due to a bunch of things breaking all at once.
My second BA Ghia has done mid 300,000's and its a rock solid reliable car with no heater on the passenger side. I did replace the engine when I first got it as the old one ran rough and a cracked sump from the car being too low (yeah I fixed that too).
Had an 84 zk Fairlane, sold it at 875,000km, never had an issue
90% of those vehicles would still be on the road if the owners had just had basic maintenance dine on them.
Trying to find an AU falcon rust free boot lid at the wreckers is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack
Look at inland wreckers. You would be hard pressed to find a rusty Falcon in Canberra for instance and it's not a long way inland.
Get it rust repaired
@@jamesforge8107 not as many cars here tho..so its just as difficult
Never had that problem b4, but then again three of my four Falcons were Wagons XF, EL & AUII , & the other one was an XC Panel Van so........ , but just don't mention the door handles on the XC & XF ! Grrrrrrrr !!!!.
@@pwrrpw319Haha I hear you bro. It's just a stock XB but I'm restoring it as good as I can. The handles were a head ache..
Ford Falcons are brilliant cars.
I absolutely love the things
Why all the negative spite towards you? Your videos are very helpful and informative. When you identify the "warts" of Holdens and Fords, it helps us to understand why Ford started the exodus and killed off our local car industry. So much for trusting foreign owned means of production. Their penny pinching, cheap shortcuts, failure to honour warranties, and dodgy components ruined otherwise brilliant vehicles and largely contributed to the end of manufacturing. I appreciate your work and info gathering. Thanks. I own and maintain 2 Falcons.
Every car ends up like this.
People replace cars these days like new phones cause they want the latest flashy thing.
My dad recently upgraded to a 2020 Toyota Camry Hybrid and he's letting me drive his 2009 Toyota Aurion Sportivo SX6...i'll be saving up to buy it off him this year...and once i do own it I plan to keep it long term...they're beast of a car.
@Epic3032 that 09 camry will run literally forever. Even with questionable maintenance, they still go forever. Is it the v6 model?
@@JeffPerson Yeah, it's teh V6 model...Here in Australia we call them Aurions they stopped making them after their 2018 model and resorted to Camrys instead. Love those cars 2GR-FE engines are dope.
@Epic3032 yes I know. I am Australian. They are the same as camrys pretty much just a little fancier.
It all comes down to $$ & whether someone thinks a car justifies having the $$ & time put into it....rust & panel damage are a bigger problem than mechanical issues.. ..some car models are not worth saving from the wrecking yard....yeah Toyota/Lexus are very good cars.....personally...I'd be going 2gr but in a rear wheel drive....so that's Lexus IS...GS...Mark X & Crown. ...fuckin awesome cars
I'm proud and very happy with my BF II XR6 Turbo!
I've always been Holden, but now have 04 Fairmont wagon & Territory both on LPG, ultra cheap to run & mechanically still great.
Enjoy them now before they're all gone, in 2020/21 83,000 BA falcon sedans and wagons were still registered. Its a shame, they sold 73,000 BA falcon sedans and wagons alone in 2003. I hope people do start to take care of Australian made cars before they're all gone.
How there more then they made seems like we’re gaining with your numbers
@@blake18998think about it again
@@blake18998because he said the amount sold in only one year (2003) was 73k
On the other hand, as a Falcon owner I need the wreckers to be restocked regularly.
@@blake18998 Dude, 73,000 ba wagons and sedans were sold just in 2003. But there are only 83,000 ba falcon wagon and sedans registered in 2021, which means all BA falcons from 2002-2005 there are only 83,000 left, which is a very low number.
Doing RACV few years back. Got called out to an old guy with 10 white EA Falcon sedans in his shed. Only one battery and one set of number plates.
Most cars end up at the junk yards until all of a sudden they’re so hard to find that even a rust bucket is worth a fortune
Had an 1998 EL Fairmont, 300,000 K's, took the engine out and put it in the son's Falcon ute and was still going ages after that
Of course a significant number of Falcons will end up at the wreckers, they made an S load of them. The host frequently quotes what some of the repairs would cost and cites this as the reason they get scrapped. Makes sense.
But for guys like him (and me) access to these cars to score cheap, serviceable parts, means we don't pay those inflated repair prices, and we keep our cars on the road.
It would be more interesting to know which cars don't end up at a wrecker's because no one wants them or repairs them. Yes, I'm looking at you Holden Cruze!
They end up there because they are owned by Bilo dads that are divorced with 3 kids and broke
Give them a break. They have a tough choice to pick between paying for service (they don't know cars need oil) or the Jim Beam.
I'm a boomer and I think you did a good job on this video. I even subbed.
I've got 2 BA wagons, and I love them. Leaf springs so no silly problems there. I do all of my own maintenance; they are relatively easy to work on. Keep up the good work.
But crap hood release lever assembly, handbrake adjustment weird, continual electric door lock problems.
@@tinysherpa7180 Yes, all of those recurring problems. I've replaced all the motors and worm gear in the locks, twice. One of them has the hood release tucked up in a broken state. Not going to worry about the handbrake, it still works. You didn't mention the ongoing front end problems and the sagging headliner.
All cars end up in junkyards. It’s astounding the number of old Falcon wagons, utes, trays and the like being used by tradesmen that are doing daily work some times forty years after manufacture. I’ve owned many brands over the past 56 years and, if I had to do it again it’d be Toyota for small and medium cars and Falcon for larger sedans, utes and wagons.
re the dash spears ,i don't know why but there worth a million bucks on market place ( probably about to explain why), people always snap them in half because there too much of a hurry to get them off without taking the 26 screws to remove the glove box housing then snapping off one tab under the door rubber/dash side making it 27 screws and then undo the 2x 7mm nuts holding the spears on , the plastic is quite strong
Falcons and Commodore's
the go-to choice of Bogans and revheads and the fact they only cost about a months dole money, and there's tons of spares. 😂😂😂
For the ERA im into ( 80s ) the bloody rust got them LOL
The engines go forever; the car around it fall apart. But they're still the Best!!
Just remember that in ten years all you will have to pick over will be grocery getter SUV's,so make hay now things only get worse.
every aussie ford and holden must be saved
Far worse than that with car manufacturers making cars now that can only be serviced at a dealer and all this cheap safety tech in them simply to get a 5* crash rating and cameras in them watching everything you do to report back to your insurance company. I have a work supplied car with this cheap safety tech in it and part of my job involves driving through park land areas and the crash sensor screamed it's head off. Got out of the car to have at what I was about to crash into and it was just one long blade of grass. Useless safety tech like the speed monitoring that beeps it's head off at 5am for a school zone speed limit. If it was my own car I'd rip the fuse out for the safety tech.
I want to restore a number of Falcons (EA, EB Series II, EF and EL) to Concourse Condition as a tribute to my grandparents.
We need more Ford museums in this country before these Falcons go extinct!
My old 1998 Ford Fairmont AU isn't dead yet. It just hit 290,000 Km which is quite a milestone as it hasn't had the greatest life. Its old and tired has quite a few things wrong with but it keeps going. Yes mine has quite a few wrecker parts put into it and a few aftermarket parts. Its been an amazing car and will be sad when it does die or rust out. I will mourn its loss. Its a comfy ugly cockroach but I love it.
You missed the strawberry milkshake mix when the transmission heat exchanger in radiator fails and kills the transmission.
Correct
If you're switched on you fit a $500 transmission cooler. Disaster averted.
@@BrentonCrude or just disconnect the hoses to the wet cooler
@@BrentonCrude if you paid $500 for a cooler, your an idiot.
@@BrentonCrude Did that to my FG G6E as soon as the warranty expired back in 2012 and never had a problem. It's no brainer really $500 for the external cooler against 8-10K for a new ZF 6 speed transmission. That gets serviced every 50K km.
The reason there are so many Falcons, is it's a FALCON Wrecking Yard..
I love the wreaker videos! Can you make more please? It so sad we don't have any ones in NSW that you can pull your own parts. I love going to the ones in Vic.
Yeah has been a long time since you could walk around a wrecker in n.s.w and look for good parts now it's take what your given or spend another 12months looking for part🔥💩🏡🚪🇦🇺
Oh yeah, the Blacktown facility was a great loss. People from all over Sydney want there and I had some great car related chats and knowledge exchanges there.
Yeah, used to be a great one on the way to Windsor from Penrith. Blacktown also had a great wrecking yard. I can't believe they are gone.
Love these wrecker videos Nathan - keep 'em coming-very informative and enjoyable. Camera work made me a little motion sick, but that's all good. Don't worry about the haters either - you are conveying the picture as it is. Well done
Hay mate, your video is great. I like what's honest and I'm much older than you boys. Good work mate!
Look at the Valiant, best car made. People drove them into the ground. Same thing with falcons and commodores now. My fg turbo is pretty good, alternator went but i look after it. My Valiant 318 has over a million ks. Maintenance is the key. Parts are cheap for falcons so thats another bonus. My vy ss is a great machine to. Worst was my vz Alloytec. Still got 280,000ks out of it.
Alloyyecccchh
Dad's still driving the family charger around, 260,000 on the clock and all original, kept in a garage and once my brothers grew up it was never driven in the rain as he hates washing cars(he's 85). Will probably still be going strong in ten years time.
@@jimmcfee3488bet it hammers along to.
After 40 years Ford I had enough. I spend a lot of money for service and repaires on my Falcons and Territorys and ... they never break down, right, but they have also always problems. Driving a Ford is like to walk with a stone in your shoe. AND .... after 10 years and 1 day you can't buy parts anymore. So I drove a excellent EL Falcon with switches hanging on cables out of the dash, and a one owner Territory where I had to screw the backdoor regulary on because you can't buy hinges anymore and the typical break on a Territory. After 40 years throwing my money in bottemless barrels I bought a Mazda AND .... can drive without repaires and without troubles.
Oh geez, I love this video especially the part the end where you go through the comments and pick you out our smartest people that have had their input on your video.
All their input is doing is giving you content to create I find it genuinely hilarious when people like this comment this stuff.
Also, where this one guy called you a baby boomer and the new continued to talk about having a real job in the real world...
Why do I feel like that part may have been heavily edited 😂
Any real person that follows you on UA-cam or anywhere of the likes has it general basic idea of what you may or may not do outside of this video.
Anyway I'd really love to see the unedited version of that final clip.
Keep doing you!
Good work, Nathan. I like your work, and yes, I am a real live boomer.
I have had a lot of Falcons in my business and personal fleet. I have not experienced most if not all the faults stated. However, I have never kept a Falcon Territory or Commodore past 300,000. I do maintain my cars and only buy new or well serviced vehicles.
Au egas ute I had put 520,000klms on it before I traded it.Original engine and gearbox not burning oil at all. Replaced egas mixer diaphram, one worn power steering pump and two alternators because the power steering connection leaks on them. Two sets rear wheel bearings and ignition barrel and second hand pair of thermo fans.Most of maint myself.
I still have my 03 xr6 5sp manual, owned it for 19 years, cheap as chips to maintain, immaculate inside and out, never let me down.
Great video there, Nathan, and it's great seeing Rex there, too.
Most cars have indiviual faults like this that their owners are too dumb or lazy to fix. Even BMWs have such faults, but you'll find many of the 20+ year old bimmers are on the road because the owners do all their own mechanicals, as the average person cannot afford to get it done in a shop.
Also, I dont understand the throw away mentality.Ive driven the same car for 35 years. 900kgs, RWD, and costs me peanuts to maintain. I love it. IT doesnt have any of these faults you highlighted either.
There's definitely dumb people out there 🤦 some issues are so easy to fix its not funny
Haters gonna hate! Keep up the great content!!!
Which wreckers is this? Am yet to find one in Melbourne that has good Falcon bits.
I also want to know ACM bought the yard in Camp Rd Campbellfield and closed it.
Looks like Jolly's in Dandy tbh
New subscriber here, basically because you’re another Aussie .
At least you didn’t bash any magnas in this video 😅👌🏽
There's a kid in Whyalla with one, and his got a huge sticker on his back window of a crown and the word FAGNA under it
@ 😅😂😅😂😅👌🏽
They get driven into the ground by the average owner. Most of the B series Falcons that come through my shop are in poor condition. You get the odd 1 or 2 that are pretty good though.
I love it when UA-camrs review the comments section 😎
This is a bit sad, exactly the same sort of thing was happening with XA, XB ,XC coupes, Monaros, Chargers, etc in the late 80s and 90s,
not worth much and a tiny bit of rust , damage, yellow stickers, and/or minor mechanical problems saw them getting scrapped, look at their values and desirability now :/
Wish I had a time machine..,
will the same sort of thing happen with some of these fords??,
probably, save a couple if you can I reckon..
Embrace the hate comments it means people are watching your videos keep up the good work.
$1500?? yea alright but give them a good few years. They will be worth a lot more than 1500 bucks.
This is a bit sad, exactly the same sort of thing was happening with XA, XB ,XC coupes, Monaros, Chargers, etc in the late 80s and 90s,
not worth much and a tiny bit of rust , damage, yellow stickers, and/or minor mechanical problems saw them getting scrapped, look at their values and desirability now :/
Wish I had a time machine..,
will the same sort of thing happen with some of these fords??,
probably, save a couple if you can I reckon..
They'll be worth nothing because electric and or hydrogen will have taken over and ice engines and petroleum will be obsolete.
Best model is the xr6 model xh Ute manual with a modified AU engine in and it has a proper tail shaft no gay centre bearing and a proper diff
"no gay centre bearing and a proper diff" had me laughing...
My EL Fairmont Ghia has done 650000km just put a AU head on it, Still going strong. It's not expensive if you do your own work.
what a unit
Frank’s pick a part at Smithfield western Sydney, me and brother would spend all day there in the 80’s and 90’s. Heaps of XA, XB, XC falcons. Also lots of ZG, ZH fairlanes. It was like a buffet restaurant only with car parts. Used to remember waiting for the Trading Post to come out on a Wednesday. You’d have wrecking whole cars section. Used to have XB GT’s advertised as wrecking whole car. They were worth more as parts than as a complete car back in 1991. Most people just wanted the 351 Clevo and the bonnet and grill, the rest of the car was complete.
Very informative video for the most part and thanks for making it but here’s more info.
Key barrels rarely if ever fail. It’s the ignition switch that fails with the symptoms you describe. When you swap the columns to repair it you usually put the old barrel into the new column so you don’t have to get everything programmed.
El went back to a distributor because the distributor less system on the EF didn’t quite work.
I could still see the lock actuator in the bottom corner of that EL drivers door.
Key barrel in my EF basically exploded into two pieces. Not sure about the BAs. I remember it being a Bosch part though so I don't even blame Ford.
And the OG coil pack is still in it afaik.
Door handles keep getting swapped around as they go limp, shame there's too many little cheap plastic mechanical parts to snap, but its not a Falcon thing its a general car thing still going on with new cars.
@@jjm1133 Definitely the key barrel exploded? The bit you put the key in and not the switch with the wires on it?
The ignition lock is three separate pieces. Key barrel, lock assembly (the bit that clamps to the column) and ignition switch. People often mistakenly call this three piece assembly the ignition barrel.
@@jamesforge8107 yeah the switch. I learned that habit of calling the whole thing the barrel.
My ba wagon mk2 has done just uner 400k regular maintenance at 10,000 never had any real issues. Runs very well and it hasn't had a easy life being babied.
My mate bought a ef Fairmont sedan many years ago with new paint job for 2thousand dollars drove it for 5years it was extremely reliable hardly cost him anything 👍👍
Sold my last Falcon for $650 although there wasnt really anything wrong with it. It had 1 month rego left and only needed tyres and brake pads, and probably a new clutch . I knew if I spent $3000 on it the value would maybe increase to $2000 max. The young guys in their 20s just dont want them anymore, they are considered "grandpa" cars now and not exactly the kind of car to impress the girls.But they are still the best value for money as long as you dont mind being uncool
Fun fact, 4 cars I had at your factory only a few months ago are there. 2 VZs, a BT50 and an SX4.
Good video 9/10
skyline videos NOW
Commodore owner here (up the vs). I did own a ba xr6t and i was def fastest car i own and i did enjoy it. But i had to spend so much time and a little bit of $$ getting it blueslipped (was vic rego and im in nsw and was also out of rego) and a bit on fixing a few things here and there. But just didnt get the time to enjoy it and to much to learn, and being my 3rd car i just had to get rid of it for another commo as it was familiar territory. But yes, door handles are so damn flimsy. Hate the interior, so much flimsy pieces plus its quite ugly imho. Ill just stick to my slow manual eco wags. Which sad to see less vs's in scrapyards. Harder to find so many parts without spending way to much.
all makes and models end up at the wreckers! but yes, lots of falcons at pick-a-part here in NZ, have a great day
I used to own an EF, the distributor is an improvement because it's reliable. The coil packs on EFs fail ALL THE DAMN TIME and they're located underneath the intake.
Mine actually had a cracked head as well, and yes, I ran it with the cracked head.
I seriously considered Barra swapping mine...or really anything swapping it (even briefly thought of a 2.0 TDI), but there was just too much wrong with it so I flogged it off for $300 and it continued to fall apart after that
Sounds like the mighty AU is the way to go... I've had my AU XR8 for almost 22 years and been so reliable - but must admit I had some boot rust repaired years ago and is still all good. Also, the headliner is good as gold - it does have a sunroof which might help
hell yeah made it in the video, let me know if you boys need a hand, few pounds later we'll have hydraulic lifts and AC in that bad boy!
Currently own an XB, a TS SX Territroy, 2 BA tonners and a BF RTV. All the tonners are work vehicles and do a heap of km, and they’re all awesome.
Live in east Gippsland and I see 10 falcons to every commodore of similar age, to me that Says it all.
Our family car is a 2002 AU series three wagon, dad bought it as a demonstrator early in 2003 and saved a few thousand, it is the best car we have owned, still looks like new, in fact when downtown people comment on how good it looks, but mate, with any car no matter the make whether you get a good car or bad is the luck of the draw.
I don’t know about Falcons being as bad as what you reckon, I have had my FG XR-6 series one since new along with a couple of other brand cars that are also highly regarded and which I might add is not devoid of some similar problems and more expensive to fix, sure there’s some issues with Falcons here and there with them but they can easily be rectified with improved aftermarket items such as centre bearings and diff bushes which my car has been rectified with and now it’s a fully reliable unit that’s going to last for many years to come, also it’s really how one looks after their cars as let’s face it Falcons were relatively inexpensive in the first place and most people traded them up after four or five years and buyers after a used family or a car with a bit of performance bought them and drive them into the ground, never looked after them just the same as people who bought Mitsubishi Magnas years ago as when was the last time you saw one of those getting around especially in the cities, as they were cheap to buy for a second car on the used market also, I look after my FG and it is still in pristine condition even after fifteen years and will last at least that again no problems!
I started in an ea falcon 5 speed manual. It must have at least done 500000ks. l retired it when the head went!!! After l put chemiweld in it, it ran for another year, and then the clutch housing also let go it was too expensive to fix. So l changed to an ef xr6. I loved it, it was so much better to drive the power the handling it was an amazing car to own l was absolutely impressed with it. Now im in a TJ Magna Vrx and have been for about 15 years it just hit the 400000k mark and still going strong with absolutely no issues since owning!!! Although I have taken care of all these cars to get the higher kms out of them!!! I love all the cars of this era regardless of what model they are it felt like the manufacturer was working really hard to deliver you one of their best cars and working really hard to get people to buy them. If you drove home in a Holden, Ford, Mitsubishi, they just felt pristine. Especially in the late 90s early 2000s!!!
Hi boys, my 1998 au 270ks is going great, new head liner but still going strong did have a problem with door handle.no key problems.U r right.😂
Owned a few falcons, and always thought frequent niggly repairs were a given for any car. Until I bought a Toyota and realised these falcons are just horribly engineered. Most falcons for sale usually have a huge list of stuff that's been replaced or repaired to keep it on the road. Speaks volumes.
Something else that kills Falcons but it affects XH and FGX more than other models.
Availability of parts. XH and FGX weren't huge sellers on the grand scheme of things and have a lot of bespoke parts that no other models have.
Bonnet, front guards and back bumpers for instance. Bend any of those and your insurance company is more likely to write the car off than go chasing hard to get parts if they can't just get them from the local Ford dealer.
My 12 yr old cat loves these
Trouble is the au falcons and Vs commodores were favoured by young drivers,who had no intentions of looking after/preserving them.
And also doesn't care about its maintenance
The other reason they end up at the Wreckers is because they sell.
People that maintain the Falcons go to them for parts.
I had an AU for ages that I basically kept together for spare change thanks to Pick n Payless in Blacktown when I was broke AF during my 20s.
Didn't get rid of it until it hit 450,000kms and even then, it ran fine - I just got given a newer car by a relative.
they are so ubiquitous that they became a dime a dozen used, so things what would be worth doing on other cars became not worth it for things like the base falcons and commodores. Good to see that they still sucked at making door handles, they were even bad back in the 70s still haha
my old falcon just had all radiator hoses start to go, and same for my fiesta too
Wish I had a dollar for every XD to XF Falcon door handle that was replaced.
not a ford guy but the ammount of unwrecked ute shells at my local wreckers is staggering how people arent building modern 1 tonner style utes out of them just baffles me. one of the few legal cars you can have with a frame and no wieght under the rears and there just rows of them been discarded.
Definitely agree. Most car owners run them into the ground. I'm fixing up a 2010 bf wagon, all brakes gone. The rest is worn, 260,000km. The auto fluid was black. They just need work to stop them failing.
Q: Why do Falcons end up at the wreckers?
A: Same as any good car; most people these days don't actually 'know' thier car (how to drive and/or maintain it properly).
I live and do most of my driving in rural areas, and a constant out here is this: one of the most common models driven by working-class rural people is some form of Ford Falcon. My own 2009 FG has done over 300,000km total (near 200,000km by me the past 7 years), survived 3 'roo strikes and kept going, and I'm now doing a series of upgrades so I can keep her running for another 300,000km. Every make/model of car has it's 'quirks', but if you know what to expect, how to fix what does break, and actually look after the car, she'll look after you.
PS: Sagging headliners - "This will cost you probably 2-300 bucks to redo..." Or, you could just do what I did, spend about $30 on some decent sprayfix, a little of your time/effort, and reskin it yourself (with new material of your own choice, even). It amazes me how little people know/care how to do even simple repairs on thier own cars now.
It is the lower ball joints on the territory SY1, But the setup was revised in SY2 model or 09+.
Cheap tow rigs if your prepared to spend some coin and upgrade to sy2 knuckles
Haha stuff the h8rs.
Still daily driving my EF Fairmont @ 380k. Needs very little repair wise - the last was an alternator in '22. I do need to swap out the cracked evaporator to get the A/C going again, but other than that it's just been just normal maintenance.
I worked at Ford 96/97 and you asked about the EL distributor - simple answer cost cutting which they did continuously during model life especially mid life update another example being the wheel mounts which are hydraulic on EF but inferior rubber mounts on EL. Oh and yes I was directly involved with the door lock actuator epidemic at the time. Was never really resolved until they went to all new actuators in AU. Despite all this I still love the Falcon as a better engineered and built car than its big rival - I also used to visit all the component supplies and Falcon used better quality components than Holden eg. Bosch vs inferior alternatives
I recall reading years ago that the reason EL's went back to distributors was because the EFs coil pack system was at the timesuper unreliable and customers weren't happy. It was obviously fixed by the AU though. Given ELs are now 30 years old odds are any unreliable ignition parts have been long since replaced.
1:35 some EF coil packs had some issues, as they were the first Falcon's with coil packs. Whilst Ford were developing a solution, they basically retro-fitted dizzy's to EL's as an interim solution until the coil packs made a return (new and improved) in the AU.
My NF Fairlane is running well despite drooping ceiling & lock on boot unable to open. V8 5L is becoming very rare to find like a Ford XF Ghia
We have a love/hate relationship with our Falcon… thing went lime shit off a shovel, whenthe intermittant electric fault allowed it to do so… spent quite some dollars chasing the fault, but no-one was able to find it; neither Ford dealers, nor private garages, so it was sold to a young fella with full disclosure who reckoned he knew what the problem was.
The Territory is, indeed, a stout vehicle…IF YOU MAINTAIN THE THING!! Love ours to bits and service it every 10k; it just rumbles along serenely!!
i can’t understand why people hate on this sort of thing: are they that desperately involved with their cars that they cannot bear any criticism, I wonder?!
All the wreckers near me have more commodores than falcons. The main reason most falcons/commodores end up in a wreckers is insurance companies, they stat write them off for a couple hundred dollar repair.
My Dad had an XC and it was a tank. Just kept going.
Restored a EA a few years ago. It had the rare blue plastic interior trim.
I am from south Africa and i would love to spend some time in that recking yard going through all that falcons and supply myself with all the parts i need to get my ef futura automatic and ef xr6 Manual back to like it was when i bought it.
My wreckers here ended up squashing all the Holden's and fords and used them for scrap and now turned to a full metal recycling centre and don't sell any parts anymore because they scrapped every side car and car part they had
Someone told me that wreckers now have to warranty their parts which makes it not worthwhile and easier just to turn the cars to scrap metal
@vilemerchant this could be true as a while before they turned to scrap metal they also stopped people from going out the back and getting parts etc like they are doing in the video as they claimed it to be to dangerous for people to be out there
Yeah public liability bull shit this country was built on danger to the public I miss roaming around wreckers even the local tips are hard to access now hate seeing perfectly good straight cars being crushed without at least saving the good bits 🔥🐃💩🏡🚪🇦🇺
Less and less commodores and falcons available and now we are just a international dumping ground for poor quality shit vehicles the justification for wrecking yards is becoming less and less just scrap it every 5 years or less and buy another environmental disaster, think falcons are bad with their shock horror sagging shit roof linings that all modern cars get if they were as built as well as a falcon was built to last or $15 for a eBay kit to fix the door locks winter really is coming as far as affordable easy to work on and cheap to repair vehicles are concerned we once made the best
I had 1999 falcon Ghia, with the beautiful tickford motor. Never had any issues with it and I never serviced it, just kept going and going until I lent it to a mate. She ain’t going no more 😭
Repping Western Australia with the butter shirt!
Did you guys see any 5.0 Windsor Falcons from 1992 - 2002 era ?
Loved the XF except for replacing door handles. Got a Gas BF and the roof fabric needs attention for sure and ignition barrel, I changed keys. They'll probably delete Gas from the market before the Barra dies.
Shop looks good man . Gen x here.
IDK mate you say $1500 for car and that again for bits, but I think we gotta expect that's that norm. Honestly that's minimum to put into a good runabout to get on the road. to get a car without the problems but is the same age and not expect those problems to show up in the very near future is naive. What's the other option a newer car, lol. That's not anymore reliable then an old car
Agreed. If you buy a $3000 car you need to also budget _at least_ $1000 for short-term repairs. That goes for any make or model.
I'm driving a 24 year old AUXR^ cop car .... Just keep fixing things, still a better car than some of the new shitboxes
He is right guys I've never seen another model car in a wrecking yard
395,000 and counting, remember in mid 90s had Two chargers, were cheap a screwdriver started it up.
I've had 2 BA's and liked/hated them both. The series 2 BA wagon had heaps of room in the back (I used it as a handyman vehicle) and the series 1 sedan was a good tow vehicle (I suggest trailer brakes though).
Loved My BF fairmont and owned it since 2006, but nothing last forever. A few months ago after half a million kms the worn out parts exceeded the value and i had to let her go to the junkyard. All cars have their faults, and there a plenty of areas that ford cut corners sadly, as far as build quality hondas and toyotas of the era were built better, but I can't help but miss that nice big smooth inline 6. You'll never see that again in a production car.
at least on a 90s falcon, you have the option to do late model subframes with engines including territory awd
It all depends on how much you love your falcon/insert other older car, and how much you like/don't like new cars. I hate the crap in new cars (in fact, it seems be getting worse with each new release), so I don't pay any mind to how much my car is worth, I just fix any issues that crop up, as I really enjoy driving my falcon, and it has everything just the way I like it.
As for haters...bro, it's the internet. A lot of clowns become very tough and couragous with their face behind a screen and some distance. Water off a ducks back.