BMW M3 Competition xDrive | evo Hot Lap
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- Опубліковано 18 лис 2021
- The G80-generation BMW M3 Competition is an outstanding driver's car in standard rear-wheel drive form, but how does it fare with power to all four wheels? Steve Sutcliffe finds out around Bedford Autodrome.
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Can’t we just take a second to appreciate about the fact that we now can buy a BMW M3 (and M4) rwd or awd that is more or less as quick as a Porsche 992 911 S and a 718 Cayman GT4 on a track.
Yet it is larger, heavier and more comfortable and luxurios than ever…
That is quite an achievement in my book.
..I've just told the wife that the house-extension is no-longer happening!
🤣 too right
5 seconds per lap faster than the previous gen M4... Damn, BMW. That's wicked!
Your Camera Setup for the hotlap is absolutely perfect. It nicely shows speed and handling characteristics. Thanks for the great video.
Imagine someone told you in 2011 the M3 of 2021 will weight 1855kg.
And Steve, don’t ever leave us.
I know! It put me off to be honest.. I drove the Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio right after driving this for a bit and it feels like a kart compared to this heavyweight.
IRL the actual weight of the cars are much closer than you think as the Alfa weighs more than specified and the BMW less.
The RWD BMW weighs about 30kg more than the alfa QV.
Expected IRL weight difference should be about 80kgs between QV and M3 xDrive as the RWD M3 is ONLY about 30kgs heavier than the alfa IRL
Joke really
2011 M3 Convertible was 1,810 kg.
But when we look at an E46, yes, the weight of new BMWs is shameful.
@@Jinsun202 I was not aware, thought it would have been less.
Great video, can't get enough of Steve 🏁
Would love to see the RWD mode only lap too... but 0.5s quicker may not be worth it?
Steve is like a quiet whisper in a mad world🙏
@@NVMotorsportUK throw in typical British wet weather and the difference would be a lot more,I think.
@@NVMotorsportUK in general AWD benefits accel from a standstill and doesn't do much for lap times. Most lap records are RWD - GT2 RS, AMG GT Black Series, 992 GT3, etc.
You done a really nice video by the way. Same road same condition between an xdrive and a rwd M3.
He has to be the calmest high-speed reviewer on the planet - of course you are also calm, but Steve is a bit special at 10/10ths
Steve is like the sickest driver that nobody talks about. Legend.
Sutcliff and Harris, 2 of the best motoring journalists..
Steve is one of the best - love watching all your videos! 👍
Amazing review as always by Steve, what a legend!!! And what a machine.. congratulations to BMW's M engineers
Love Evo. Still the original still one of the best. I only wish you made more content still
What a wonderful video by Steve....full lap and nice shooting ...EVO pls keep it up
My goodness! What an excellent video. Review and video editing plus music…awesome
Steve, Great review..... always so poised and classy!! Looking forward to taking delivery of mine in a couple days.
This car is the size of the old M5. That's a fact. And it weights almost 2 tonnes. The price is heavy too. 3 seconds 0-60 is massive. Steve says its good.
I'd personally go for a 2 year old M5 Competition instead.
I agree 100%. And if don’t do track days a used M550i xdrive is the best value out there.
I actually compared the prices of a 2012 loaded car versus an essentially loaded G80 M3 without all the crazy carbon fiber extras and the new car is a couple thousand dollars cheaper when adjusted for the price of inflation in the US. Not to mention this new car standard has more features than the older ones loaded. It’s honestly not a bad deal for what it is and what it competes against. If you want a better deal with slightly less performance the new Audi RS3 is kinda insane.
The g80 m3 is much sharper and fun to drive fast though. Depends if the car is more of a DD or a weekend toy.
Thanks Steve I like u since my college time although at that time I used to read ur content through magazine now through u tube but u rock u stand tall in this u tubers crowd hats off to u sir
Great video, love the full lap. Would like to see a small track image though in the corner to see how much of the lap is complete. (Like they do on motortrend)
Great no nonsense review, thanks!
The best S58 M cars are still coming out. M3 Touring xDrive and the new M2 with RWD and a manual.
Yes, been waiting for this! Sutcliffe and the new M3, a power couple if there was ever one! 😅
Never thought I'd agree to say that an X-Drive M3 is the one to get. Coming from an older school E90 M3, never would've thought I'd admit that it would be the one I'd have as well. In the past, never, but nowadays, can't hide the fact that the car's much heavier and needs it to really get the most out of it. Shame we're not getting the touring on US shores.
For what i know there's no M3 Touring in the G80 gen.
Progress, my Yankee Doodle friend..
@@zafurchio5687 its called the G81 and it will probably be showed next year, its already testing on the track, there are alot of clips about it
Someone put it into words perfectly, M3 owners got sick of getting smoked in a straight line by hothatches with AWD
@@zafurchio5687 you don't know much. It's been in the auto news for years now.
Your the best !simple as that along with Dan Prosser
Yeah, it's big and heavy now. With the advancements in tire tech and of course the huge tire width, it still handles and stops well. I'm waiting for the new M2 honestly.
Steve the best of the best IMO.
When you see Steve you know its gonna be good
Perfect video.
@EVO how is the steering? Worse because of AWD or better?
More Steve please!
Sat in one today! what a special car!
Sutcliffe is a pleasure to watcg
Great stuff, what a weapon
It looks like a pissed-off gopher. I dig it haha
Great car
I've been a RWD enthusiast for a long time, but with these new BMW's I'm seriously considering AWD... maybe a new m240i for Christmas?
Mate I think you need sone new glasses xD / but seriously I am sure a great car but the looks physically pain me this coming from someone with little problem with the new m3/m4
M240i is going to be amazing
I'm not even here for the car, I'm here for Steve's presentation of the car.
The amount of money they charge for this thing it better be quick
Excellent.
Steve, Jethro, and Tiff are the best in the business.
Lovely!!
Yay! It's Steve...Check It's a BMW M3 X-drive...Check I've put a deposit down on one...Check I will now be able to drive like Steve...ah...maybe that's a no then :(
All weather M3. This as the touring when it comes out, maybe the ultimate car, if you just look at it's arse.
@evo what happened to hot lap series? you guys were on to something with this series benchmarking the performance and comparing cars
What’s the name of that specific blue paint? Is that Avus blue or something else? It looks great; always hard to tell the minute differences over a camera.
Portamio blue
Be aware that the color balance in the video makes it look nothing close to real life. But yes, it is Portimao blue.
6:56 did I hear right 0.5 quicker ?
Then with just practice the rwd will be faster or as fast as the 4wd
Love from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦 Steve for me u r like pale in soccer and Sachin Tendulkar in cricket and u Steve in automotive period
What's the time in RWD mode, is it the same as the M3 RWD
0.5 sec faster with Sutcliffe driving - difference will be bigger with non pro drivers. Amazing lap time for a 1.8 ton saloon. 3 secs quicker than the lighter Guilia with same power - that’s a huge difference
Don't forget the Michelin cup 2 😉 the alfa was probably on pirellis which ar worse
That's probably just tyres
Alfa was tested in damp and cold on notoriously bad Pirelli corsas if I remember correctly 🙁
Steve Sutcliffe could tell you you have 10mins left to live and you’d still enjoy listening to him
I wonder how much slower my 6MT G80 would be on that track (not with ME driving...'cause that would be WAY slower). So many great M3 videos coming out of the UK...very sad that the 6MT isn't available for you folk to toss it around with the other two variants.
Just half a second faster in dry conditions than the 2wd doesn't sound like much.....and it isn't....but this is Britain, and we get just as much wet weather as dry weather here! And trust me....as a guy who has owned several 2wd m cars ( and loved them!) but now drives a 335d xdrive the difference in not so ideal conditions is night and day....
In fact I had a bit of fun with an f80 m3 just a few days ago....he tailgated me somewhat coming off the motorway sliproad.....until we came to the greasy roundabouts were he became very small in my rear view mirror very quickly such is the traction and stability advantage the xdrive system has over the rear wheel drive cars.
what color of the car?
Great video. Only half a second advantage looks not so much to me. I would still prefer RWD. By the way, does somebody know which blue is that? It looks awesome
Portamau Blue
@@leeellis6738 I’m not sure. The Portamau blue is lighter than this. I think it’s Tanzanite blue.
Yep 4k isn't worth going a second faster nor 0 to 60. Using that for mods
What time did previous M3cs achieve ?
And looking at the leaderboard will the GT4RS go under 1:17 ?
Not even a question.
@@TheDaemon66 it was two questions
According to BMW the RWD G80 M3 comp is a little bit quicker on a track than the f82 M4 GTS (which was their goal) so by deduction the CS shouls be slower still.
@4:26 you can see the option for 2 wheel drive mode. It would've been nice to see you drive full-beans everything-off mode(maybe with a few slides) in that mode to see how much the added weight at the front axle affected the car while driving spiritedly compared to the 2 wheel drive M3
That would be interesting. I imagine not much given how light the M AWD system is. Less than having a passenger.
So the 4wd is the one to have because you can floor it out of a corner and let the car figure out how to go forward versus the rwd one where the driver has to figure it out? Would an even better m3 be one that just drives you around a track and you hang on?
It's just his preference, but I still would get the rwd m3
Well, the AWD inherently has more traction out of the corner due to driving 4 wheels instead of just 2. AWD cars don’t have to be boring, unless you have a strong preference for driving difficulty
Can the g80 xdrive drift ?
I like the color
Agree. Great color. Any idea what it is?
@@stforte1852, no clue buddy! I thought one of those heritage colors. But that’s more purple than blue. Deff not that heritage light blue
Jesus Steve ......4:30 did you have a set of golf 🏌️♂️ clubs in the car with you on that timed lap? Thought your irons were going to come through the windshield on hard braking or something
I've driven the G80 M3 on track at two different BMW-sponsored track events. One of which was in Upstate New York during a cold and damp day. At no point did I feel that the car needed AWD to manage its power. I would be skipping the X-Drive option, though I imagine I'd be in the minority here in the Northeastern USA.
Correct as the AWD is for more speed, not better handling. Some people are getting sub 3 seconds with G8x xDrive
Only get x drive if you care about launch control or putting power down better in the wet
@@n52gremlin15 meh. It’s also gotta be easier to explore the RWD’s limits on the roads. If you get the Xdrive, it’s probably pretty clinical unless you’re on track
@@wl2486 Yeah it’s more for bragging rights and daily drivability. I know if I was in the position to buy one I’d get the xDrive as I don’t go to the track and would use it as a daily.
I am a driver man's driver!
Don't need 4wheel drive
Give me 2wheel drive
As an e60 m5 owner, the only thing that Stops me getting this m3 as a daily is that horrible Sound when you upshift.. just cant get over it with the turbocharged m-cars. Apart from that, just magnificient Cars.
I love the eyes narrow headlights, and long nose wide nostrils grill of the globally recognised renowned BMW ///M3 and ///M4. I can personally identify with this brilliant Beastly image looking in the mirror, Mr. Adrian van Hooydonk and team were very creative and original in their revolutionary thinking, they delivered outstanding shape form function design aesthetics with the trusted proven choice BMW DNA that is advanced ingenuity, industry leading driving dynamics...etc solution relevance timely ingredient qualities
1855 kg M3 🤦♂️
Get the Alfa GTAM,i want you to compare it......cause what i know so far is it does spin its wheels a lot
The Ultimate Driving Machine still true after all these years ❤️💋💋💋
1:30 four wheel drive systems make cars feel little bit ... ? I played it back quite a few times, I can't seem to get that word
inert
m3 is a definite buy
Yeah for half a sec I would still get the lighter RWD M3. Feels more pure. Unless you live in a snowy area or track the car every Sunday (then why would you get a 4 door saloon), the RWD seems like a better option.
Agreed that half a second is absolutely nothing. Surprised it’s so close. RWD as I would “launch” the car not care about being quicker...and a manual thank you very much!
Would normally agree however you can turn the awd into the rwd by a press of a button so basically it's the Same car then! But you also have awd for more grip etc when you need it! so its a no brainer imo.
How does the M3’s AWD and performance compare to a Mercedes E63s? Would this car be a real step down or is the driving engagement more rewarding and makes up for the reduced power?
If you don't mind having a smaller car and a bit less refined it's more dynamic and it's still ballistic all things considered
According to most measurements Ive seen so far, including carwow, they have the same quarter mile times.
However we can assume dynamically the BMW should be much more capable.
anyone have this audio sountrack?
0.5 sec difference is valid for all categories
So if rwd only is 0.5 sec slower, why is the M4 time so bad?
oh I see it's a previous gen M4
Lap time is worse, Looks is better 😁
BMW did a great Job! AWD all time!!! No reason for the RWD unless you're a purist...then is a RWD with manual transmission a must-have (or the upcoming M2 with S58 & manual). Due to Lack of money...I would take always the AWD...the perfect daily for all weather conditions!!!
Yes and I believe you can turn it into rwd only then its identical to the rwd version, so a no brainer getting the awd.
What's the color?
Portamio blue
Any guesses which colour this is? (Individual?)
Portamio blue
Be aware that the color balance in the video makes it look nothing close to real life. But yes, it is portimao blue.
My E60 535xi is awd , 6 speed manual , has bolt ons and tuned to 490 wheel horsepower, I figured out the formula before BMW.
@Burim Bunjaku factory , I also have x delete and can switch to 2 wheel drive.
@Burim Bunjaku no I gotta pull over and do a quick tune write , takes 2 minutes
@Burim Bunjaku yes , I know it’s a not a new M3 or M5 but I can’t afford those lol , that’s the closest I can get myself
wow...
Anyone know the paint code of this M3?
Portamio blue
Be aware that the color balance in the video makes it look nothing close to real life. But yes, it is portimao blue.
Thank you. I was gathering the color difference when the BMW roundel blue was showing as teal haha
This is great and all…. But I fear we’re going in the wrong direction, giving the cars more power while adding weight not only numbs the experience but also makes it less fun IMO because modern performance cars are honestly too fast for the road…. I’m just waiting for the day when BMW or any manufacturer give us something in the realm 3300-3400lbs with about 350hp RWD, I would personally take that 10 times over this….
I know that’s just wishful thinking at this point with future performance cars all going electric
The M-cars arent for driving enthusiasts anymore, its for whitecollars wanting to have something to brag about without having the comfort compromises of before. Thats why the 1M is so sought after now, it was the end of the great M cars era. Now its just fast and comfortable sedans, might as well go fully electric at this point.
3 sec quicker than the arch-rival alfa guila quadrifolio!!
Wow almost as fast as cayman GT4
Yer it’s very impressive although more expensive.
It won’t get anywhere near the GT4RS though……. 1:16.7 I reckon
G80 is a good bit quicker in a straight line. GT4 makes up for it in the turns.
lap times and acceleration numbers dont really say anything anymore. You can create tons of grip with wide sticky tires on a heavy car with lots of hp, but whats the point? You drive a GT4 for the experience and feedback from the car, sound from NA etc. With the BMW the engine sound comes from the speakers and its just heavy and uninvolving, so whats the point of a faster lap time.
@@bingoberra18 I get your point but it’s nice to know it can do it, especially if you track the car regularly. The GT4RS should be on a different level to any M3
@@bingoberra18 I also value driving experience the most and don't care about accel. I do think lap times mean something tho. They give you the sense of how the car is as a whole package - brakes, handling, driver confidence, etc. You do need to consider tire when comparing times tho.
1855 kg for a 3 series is mad
Yes, it is a great car. But the mire iI see it in the streets the less I like the front end design. Could not live with it! Waiting for the next M2….
4WD+ESC off is the fastest mode not 4WDS
1855kg 😱😱😱😱
BMW M cars should be RWD, that’s just the soul of them. Lap time of half a second slower isn’t enough to convince me. Plus the added weight of that front drivetrain is unnecessary
Wow that motor sounds terrible from the cabin. Why fake sound when they could just tune the exhaust 😭
It's so fast because it's so ugly, it tries to run away from itself.
BMW make a GTR 13 years later but with less power and somehow more weight in a 3 series body...and torque convertor instead of a dual clutch..but charge the same money
Sorry, I just can’t get over the terrible sound of that engine. I know it’ll never happen again, but I miss the pure sound of pleasure with the S65 V8.
It can beat VW/Porsche GT4 Cayman. Like he did in RWD M3
3.5 seconds faster than a Giulia QV, impressive. I'll take my Giulia QV in Rosso Tricolor please and thank you.
Good luck getting round the track without something breaking in the Alfa
@@travis3810 at least he won't be vomiting every time he looks at the front of his car
@@travis3810 my Alfa QV has been more reliable than any of my M car BMW’s, its amusing you think Bmw are reliable
Internal combustion engines have gone past its pinnacle. When you have to turbo, auto tranny, pipe sound and awd a what should be a sports car built for driving involvement, it’s gone overboard. Want pure numbers? Go EV. Want driving involvement? Go manual, natural aspiration and rwd.
just half a second over RVD M3. No, thank you. Xdrive car is fare more complicated, so chances something will go wrong are greater. In real world you never need all wheel drive and these rare occasions when do simply are too rare.
RIP RS4!
Pity they make you choose between xdrive and manual.
Oh, and the nose, of course…
Now I understand this next question all depends on the time of writing the answer, but I'll ask anyway.
What car has the lowest sales price /second? That would (I think) completely change up the scoreboard. And maybe motivate manufacturers to offer the most "bang/buck"
I have to admit... the rest of the Nostril cars have it worse.
although still embarrassingly massive. the snout looks the tidiest of the "new design language"
I have Massive hopes for a LCI M3 next year or the following. I'll be on that.
OMG please be a touring...
It completely escapes me why motoring journalists continue to show testing of a car by making it go sideways. This is never the fastest way round a race track and would be inadvisable and probably illegal on a public road. The only thing it achieves is premature tyre wear and is of little to no relevance to the folks who might buy the car, so why do it? Grow up!
The problem is how many hot laps the xdrive M3 could sustain... with such a weight the tires and brakes would be eaten in no time.
Its 50kg heavier lol.
@@v4skunk739 He was talking in absolute I think, not compared to the regular M3
I think that’s probably where you’d have to decide to back off by x percent to do “race pace” laps. Or have a shorter run of “qualifying pace” flat out laps.
G80 steel brakes are pretty good with race pads and fluids. As noted, xDrive will have minimal impact.
Will do 4 hot laps around the full west circuit before the front tyres go over 75-80 degrees.
track limits who?!