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  • Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
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    There's a lot of reasons people hate California: Biggest blue state, political grandstanding, nanny state, referendum system, overpowers neighbors, Nevada border, Water usage, other states feel belittled, Texas inadequacy, Annoying tourists and movers, Stereotypical subcultures, surfer dudes, valley girls, Hollywood elites, tech bros, hippies, traffic and gas prices, suburbia, rising housing costs, NIMBYs, high taxes, and perpetual wildfires. But they really comes down to jealousy which resonates with whatever particular qualms people have with the country as a whole. That tells us a lot about such rivalries.
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    0:00 intro and interviews
    7:14 promo
    8:54 exodus myth
    10:14 politics
    12:30 overpowering
    15:40 cultures
    17:47 suburbia
    18:30 traffic and taxes
    19:37 environment
    20:30 jealousy
    21:10 outtakes

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  • @CynicalHistorian
    @CynicalHistorian  Рік тому +56

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  • @iammrbeat
    @iammrbeat Рік тому +767

    I kind of agree with what that Mr. Beat guy said in this video. However, I do think he oversimplified it a bit.

    • @aemonblackfyre4159
      @aemonblackfyre4159 Рік тому +35

      Maybe tell him how you feel about it
      Maybe he’s going to listen and try to improve

    • @scrumpy8192
      @scrumpy8192 Рік тому +39

      Dude no offense but blaming jealousy is extremely Californian of you.

    • @seandawson5899
      @seandawson5899 Рік тому +12

      i don't even need to have Mr. Beat post to get my daily dose. I love that this community collaborates.

    • @frumtheground
      @frumtheground Рік тому +4

      Yeah, I think Mr. Beat is just really good at condensing information tho.

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat Рік тому +23

      @@scrumpy8192 Well let me see...I've never lived in California. I've only lived in Kansas and Nebraska. So never living in California makes me a Californian?

  • @SanFranFan30
    @SanFranFan30 Рік тому +710

    As a californian, the worst parts about the state is that it's hypercapitalist to the core eventhough most people don't really see it that way. San Francisco has some North East elements because it was developed more as a city before the World Wars, LA is a bit like Texas in the sense that everything is too spread out, while the rest of the state is like the mid-west with it's aimless sprawl and inefficient land use. But from the start the state basically is the embodiment of greed and manifest destiny.

    • @iammrbeat
      @iammrbeat Рік тому +147

      BuT I tHoUgHt It WaS cOmMuNiSt

    • @PG-wz7by
      @PG-wz7by Рік тому +90

      No offense to anyone here, but tech bros are horrible libertarian-nimby-utopianists devising dystopia for all. Noir film and literature was birthed here for a reason.

    • @Not_Sal
      @Not_Sal Рік тому +13

      Yeah this is spot on

    • @alonsosandoval2249
      @alonsosandoval2249 Рік тому +12

      Very accurate.

    • @SanFranFan30
      @SanFranFan30 Рік тому

      @@PG-wz7by trust me, pretty much everyone born and raised in the Bay Area hate those fucks.

  • @LAK2049
    @LAK2049 Рік тому +113

    "Americans knew they could not change their society, so instead of reflecting on themselves they blamed California."

    • @staraptorflock3661
      @staraptorflock3661 Рік тому

      California is a part of America society

    • @juvedoo99
      @juvedoo99 Рік тому

      And yet, California stays being a hub for culture which is copied by other states and countries whilst hating California at the same time .

    • @CelticAugur
      @CelticAugur Рік тому +6

      Realest shit I heard why can’t we just proud of America as a whole

    • @mustbtrouble
      @mustbtrouble Рік тому

      Whos quote is this?

    • @bagusadhywicaksono250
      @bagusadhywicaksono250 Рік тому +6

      ​@@mustbtroubleIts from the new Guilty Gear a figthing game. The announcer said it before a fight. They just change Americans and California parts.

  • @PG-wz7by
    @PG-wz7by Рік тому +229

    California is the schadenfreude state. People are fascinated and comforted when disaster strikes and eagerly consume news about the horrors of CA life.

    • @juvedoo99
      @juvedoo99 Рік тому +31

      Yet, most states copy the aesthetic of California, be it fashion, art, etc… It’s quite interesting. I’m from California, and there’s a lot of things that can be way better, but having seen other places, this is the best state in my eyes.

    • @MrRjh63
      @MrRjh63 Рік тому +7

      Feels like Florida fits that as well.

    • @swisspissman8455
      @swisspissman8455 Рік тому +6

      @@juvedoo99 Stop the CAP. I live in the mid-level poorer places in LA and I can tell you this state is ass. I love it regardless but lets not act like the states geographical location and culture is enough to excuse all the worst choices this state has done in the last decade.

    • @kevinblatter2369
      @kevinblatter2369 7 місяців тому

      Fox News and other right-wing media outlets love to highlight the horrors of CA life as it comforts their narrow-minded consumers.

  • @LucasDimoveo
    @LucasDimoveo Рік тому +70

    Californian cities could learn something from Japanese, Korean, and Chinese cities. You can have dense cities in earthquake zones

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  Рік тому +33

      California has some dense cities, like San Francisco. It depends on when they grew. Downtown LA is dense; but as soon as you get a few blocks away, it becomes suburban because it rapidly grew after WWII

    • @DTD110865
      @DTD110865 11 місяців тому +2

      As bad as they are in both LA and SF, the quakes are much worse on the other side of the Pacific.

    • @mattw8910
      @mattw8910 Місяць тому +2

      ​@CynicalHistorian what you need to do is reform those areas of LA to add higher density housing, especially more affordable high density housing.
      Also, invest a shit ton into public transit. Get some cars off the road. When less cars use the highways, you could take OUT highway lanes instead of adding them, and depending on where the highway is you can use the space to build more affordable housing.
      However NIMBY culture will never let this happen. That's why California has growing counter-culture, if you will, of YIMBY advocates, especially in the Bay Area suburbs where it is most expensive to live. They're actually starting to make progress, iirc the state government recently passed YIMBY-friendly legislation.

    • @281cobracar7
      @281cobracar7 24 дні тому

      I worked for AT&T in northern California for 10 years. All buildings built after the early 70's must meet certain earthquake standards. When we installed equipment and cable racks we also had to install earthquake braces.

  • @Erik_830
    @Erik_830 Рік тому +84

    many of these talking points can be applied to America as a whole to explain why so many foreigners hate America

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 Рік тому +6

      I thought Texas was the state foreigners hated. In fact, in recent decades I've come to see Texas as "the new California."

    • @rewschreijewschreier
      @rewschreijewschreier 7 місяців тому +2

      I was told in a past life before I came here I HATED the U.S. I was from Deutschland. Germany. so understandable given all the wars. I was a Jewish Soldier there in WW1. So I'm told by the spirit. haha. and I trust God :P. And certainly I had ALOT of cultural clash spiritually with alot of people. but. I'm doin better in California. Where I think is like the Home Base of Europeans over to the U.S.. but its Case to Case experiences of course.

  • @baconboi9499
    @baconboi9499 Рік тому +62

    As a Texan I can confirm many people I know fear Californians moving in and “turning our red state to blue” it’s rather strange to see

    • @ashwylde3131
      @ashwylde3131 Рік тому +30

      I hear that even more so as a centrist Texan people here act like being blue is such a disease and hate any sort of progress when I think that it runs much deeper than that and seems to (as some in the comments here and a few in the interview pointed at) a cultural thing.

    • @lilrocky2640
      @lilrocky2640 Рік тому

      It seems like most of the Californians moving to Texas would be conservatives who want to move to a state that more closely matches their values.

    • @drksideofthewal
      @drksideofthewal Рік тому +6

      Well, think about how Texas came to be… kind of makes sense that they’re worried about losing it the same way they got it.

    • @100megatonYT
      @100megatonYT Рік тому +1

      @@ashwylde3131 I can give a reason. I’m part of a working-class Texas family, and Californians are using the money brought from California to live upper-middle class lives and take over higher positions, meaning more Texans are being pushed out of jobs or housing opportunities. This has created a more liberal-leaning elite class in Texas that embodies two things most Texans hate. Elites and Liberals

    • @upside93
      @upside93 Рік тому

      I guarantee you that almost anyone moving from California to Texas is probably voting red. Tho I'm sure a select few move to Austin which is already solid blue. Liberals who move from California usually go to Portland or Seattle.

  • @hendrsb33
    @hendrsb33 Рік тому +169

    As a former Californian, I think "hate" is too strong a word. "Dislike" or "disappointed" would be more appropriate. I was born and raised in the San Francisco Bay Area from the 1960's to the 1980's. As an adult, I've lived in Oregon, Washington and currently in Arizona. I loved growing up in CA but now that I'm older, I'm disappointed that CA is no longer the place it used to be. It's crowded, expensive and homelessness is rampant. With all the droughts and wildfires, wide swaths of CA's forests look like burnt out war zones. I love the land of CA from the Pacific to the Sierras; it's the state politics and the changes its brought that I don't like. CA just feels mistreated now, both progressive and regressive at the same time. I like visiting my friends and fam who still live in CA but I have no desire to return as a resident.
    On the other hand, as a former Californian living in other states, it gets a bit tiresome to hear other state residents deride all Californian expatriates en mass as a blight or pestilence, bent on jacking up home prices or somehow foisting Cali-culture on non-Californians. Some may do that but a lot of us do try to blend in an enjoy whatever state we've adopted as a new home. I've pretty much been accepted in all the states I've lived in. I just don't make a big point about being a CA native and keep my politics to myself.
    Also consider that as the home of Hollywood, Silicon Valley and agriculture, CA gets a lot advertisement in the world. Everybody's heard of it. CA has its share of haters as well as lovers. But the same can be said for a lot of other states.

    • @mysticx0
      @mysticx0 Рік тому

      no. we definitely hate california and pray everyday it sinks into the ocean and takes all of its celebrities and liberal agendas with it.

    • @hendrsb33
      @hendrsb33 Рік тому +2

      @@mysticx0 Keep praying...

    • @Rawnblade13
      @Rawnblade13 Рік тому +13

      I live in New Mexico, only reason anyone knows it exists is one popular TV show. Otherwise, most seem to forget it even exists.
      I have even met people who literally think New Mexico is part of Mexico...

    • @MaryamofShomal
      @MaryamofShomal Рік тому +7

      Omg bro where are you visiting in California that it looks like a war zone??? 🤣
      I’ve lived in the Bay Area for over 35 years, lived in LA during college too - and the state looks great. I understand some of the points you’re making, having lived here most of my life, but it’s really not the way it’s portrayed in rightwing media.
      I promise.

    • @hendrsb33
      @hendrsb33 Рік тому +5

      @@MaryamofShomal I'm speaking specifically about Weed, CA... up along I-5, north of Mount Shasta. Wildfires have destroyed portions of the town and, at least when I drove through in September, burnt out homes and vehicles have still not been bulldozed and cleared. There are chimney stacks with no houses, piles of debris and burnt trees standing like matchsticks.
      Driving south toward Redding, wide swaths of forest are blackened and Lake Shasta seems almost nonexistent. That's what I meant by "war zone". I wish there was a way for me to share the pictures I took as I went through.
      Parts of San Leandro have homeless living in plain sight on the streets, even in the median in the middle of International Blvd. Though my Mom no longer lives in San Leandro, she keeps her old Davis Street condo there so family has a place to stay when we visit the Bay Area. Homeless live in Peralta Creek that runs behind the building and I was told by neighbors not to keep valuables in my car, even when parked in the gated garage.
      Politically, I'm left-leaning but I've come to believe there is some truth to what the right wing is saying. I don't really know the full story behind everything and I'm not quick to point fingers to blame everything on those who are down and out. I'm sure they don't want to be out there in dire straits. But I know what I see. I can't help to compare what I see in CA now to how I remember it as a child in the 70's. A lot of CA does look nice but there are some warts too.

  • @blaqueup
    @blaqueup Рік тому +89

    NIMBY stuff is honestly the part that mainly upsets me on the state. The housing and zoning policy stuff is one of the easiest things to do, but the state instead kind of wastes a lot of space on single unit housing and things like golf courses.
    This is frustrating for me as a personw ho I think would rather live in California than where I live now and the job opportunites there, but the COL and the difficulty for transit for a person who can't drive seems like the stat ejust don't want you there if don't have a car.

    • @TheWedabest
      @TheWedabest Рік тому +6

      You are absolutely right about the nimby's! In large part they are responsible for those crazy zoning laws. They will do anything to keep it that way. They are extremely selfish!

    • @DTD110865
      @DTD110865 11 місяців тому

      NIMBYism is a problem everywhere. It created many of the traffic problems, and not just in Metro Los Angeles and San Francisco.

    • @kevinblatter2369
      @kevinblatter2369 7 місяців тому

      It's easy to point at someone else and say, "You should not be a NIMBY." During the pandemic the state rented out an entire motel near our neighborhood to house the homeless in our otherwise very middle-class SF Bay Area city. Almost immediately the petty crime in our area went through the roof. (Car break-ins, stolen mail, shoplifting, etc.) Everyone was overjoyed when the hotel went back to being a hotel rather than a homeless shelter.

  • @zachbarker497
    @zachbarker497 Рік тому +30

    Fuck this gave me a new appreciation....of Fallout New Vegas. What a clever historical sociopolitical Easter egg that's also critical for the main plot. The soldiers and tourists from California fuel the casinos in New Vegas and bring outsiders with their own interests for the regions resources. God what a great game.
    Thanks The Cynical Historian for reminding me how much I love Fallout New Vegas.

  • @koneill123
    @koneill123 Рік тому +55

    As a Midwesterner I don't hate California. I don't understand the appeal, it's crowded, expensive and on fire.

    • @randomtinypotatocried
      @randomtinypotatocried Рік тому +6

      I never get it either as someone who lived in a state that's basically turning into that now

    • @kylesmit2690
      @kylesmit2690 Рік тому +13

      The problem it that it is not crowded. Despite its population California lacks any and all sense of density

    • @NAT-turners-Revenge
      @NAT-turners-Revenge Рік тому

      You've never been here 😎 shut your mouth simpleton

    • @drksideofthewal
      @drksideofthewal Рік тому +6

      California is a huge state, there are entire swaths of land that are as rural as anything you’d find in the midwest. Also, summers in the Bay Area are quite mild, 80’s, rarely exceeding 90.

    • @UserName-ts3sp
      @UserName-ts3sp Рік тому +7

      @@kylesmit2690 it’s pretty dense in certain areas. but california is a wild state, it’s really dense in SF and some of the other cities but theres also true wilderness

  • @Crazael
    @Crazael Рік тому +22

    As a native Californian, my hatred of New Jersey is basically entirely for the memes. As for my hatred of California, it's mostly because of the prices of housing and the environment, which is not at all "perfect" like people claim.
    18:37 As someone who used to regularly do the MacArthur Maze (the network of freeway junctions and interchanges on the Oakland side of the Bay Bridge), yeah, it was the absolute worst traffic I ever dealt with that wasn't the result of something actually blocking the road or a natural disaster.

  • @navajoguy8102
    @navajoguy8102 Рік тому +48

    Funny thing about growing up in a state like Arizona is seeing how few Native Arizonans there are. When I was going to school in Flagstaff it was fascinating to me how many people were from California or the Mid West. Compared to New Mexico where I knew quite a few people who could trace their family back to the first Spanish settlers in the 1600s.
    Historically, Arizona was more of a pit stop for people who were going to California. Aside from a few mining towns the state was never really populated until like after WW2 and thats when cities like Phoenix exploded. Which of course was only possible by tapping into finite water sources because for some reason Americans thought it was a bright idea to build a mega city in the middle of the desert.
    It is amusing seeing California transplants talk about how "someone should do something about the homeless" back in Cali, meanwhile under every bridge or interstate in Arizona you have a tent city.

    • @pedrokantor3997
      @pedrokantor3997 Рік тому +9

      Well if you want to see more "native Arizonans," go to Navajo country.

    • @willhurst
      @willhurst Рік тому +5

      You must have been in Tuscon or the west side of Phoenix because on the east side of the Phoenix valley and the rest of the state there is no a profound homelessness issue nor is there any under any of the bridges. But hey, you go to the cheap part of town anywhere and don’t be surprised if you see homeless people. That’s not an Arizona thing, this state is actually super clean and beautiful in most places.

  • @midnightgod123
    @midnightgod123 Рік тому +70

    From Mississippi and I swear people here keep whining about California. Our governor keeps bringing up California Liberals hurting our state and I'm baffled about how cali would give a damn about Mississippi

    • @realplayaf
      @realplayaf Рік тому +43

      It’s weird cuz I don’t know a single person here in California that ever thinks about let alone talk about Mississippi lol

    • @upside93
      @upside93 Рік тому +14

      I'm from California and can say very confidently that no one in California is ever thinking of Mississippi. And also, I highly doubt very many of the people who move away from California move to Mississippi and the very select few who do are probably the exact type of people Mississippi would be happy to have.

    • @catorant9353
      @catorant9353 Рік тому +8

      As a Californian, I can vouch that I forgot your state even exists for a hot minute.

    • @Saturnia2014
      @Saturnia2014 Рік тому

      Because your governor is trying to (and most likely successfully) creat a Boogeyman for his constituents.
      So many people I've met in the south who hate NY and California have never even left the south, let alone their county.

    • @arliss7132
      @arliss7132 Рік тому +8

      Last time a Californian thought of Mississippi was in grade school when they learned how to spell it.

  • @Kaiyou1691
    @Kaiyou1691 Рік тому +239

    Having moved to California from Alabama, I would say that there are definitely problems with Cali, but I still appreciate a lot of the efforts made in the state compared to how it is in Alabama

    • @hihellohi5714
      @hihellohi5714 Рік тому +14

      Are you Drew Durnil?

    • @fredlandry6170
      @fredlandry6170 Рік тому +15

      I grew up in Louisiana and lived in Georgia 25 years now unfortunately me and my wife and kid live in LA and we can’t wait to get back to Georgia.

    • @rc7625
      @rc7625 Рік тому +2

      @@fredlandry6170 Where in Georgia?

    • @pensepf49
      @pensepf49 Рік тому +11

      all due respect the only problem I see is it you refer to it as Cali

    • @WakandaleezaRazz
      @WakandaleezaRazz Рік тому +6

      @@pensepf49 get over it, lakeisha

  • @realitypoet
    @realitypoet Рік тому +35

    Being from Oregon I didn’t realize that the ballot measures system of direct legislation we have here was somewhat unique or controversial- it just makes sense to me, people should be able to vote on what policies they want not just vote for people who hopefully might get those policies passed.

  • @mynameisnobody5295
    @mynameisnobody5295 Рік тому +133

    California could do with more mid rise blocks with stores at ground level along with nearby play area's for families and children. Then you don't need a car to go to the store. While going to the city center they need public transport like buses, trams and trains along with encourage cycling and walking to travel around the area.

    • @philkensebben157
      @philkensebben157 Рік тому +43

      Every damn state could use more of all of this, especially in the West.

    • @samuelrowe1454
      @samuelrowe1454 Рік тому +11

      I mean, that applies to the entire Us

    • @AlexCab_49
      @AlexCab_49 Рік тому +7

      Only San Francisco is like how the rest of California should be like

    • @JB-bb1bh
      @JB-bb1bh Рік тому +8

      Its happening at a glacial pace.
      ..but MANY more cities could VERY much need a few mid rises on their main drags.

    • @brucebennett5338
      @brucebennett5338 Рік тому +1

      exactly!

  • @vianabdullah2837
    @vianabdullah2837 Рік тому +50

    I'll be honest, even though I'm not an American I still have a negative image of California in my head. Mainly from my dislike of Hollywood celebrity culture and everything associated with it. Their homelessness problem is also widely known towards the outside world and how NIMBYs are a big problem in the cities.

    • @swisspissman8455
      @swisspissman8455 Рік тому +6

      True but none of us want to solve that problem. LA is rapid with corruption but we like to act like every wrong was because we were dealt a wrong hand. We all know it is cope but we also refuse to change.

    • @penguinkingshorts2370
      @penguinkingshorts2370 3 місяці тому +2

      We don’t have a homeless problem outside San Francisco and certain parts of LA. Its just what the news wants you think and consume for them to get money

  • @seandawson5899
    @seandawson5899 Рік тому +43

    I lived in California and moved to Missouri with my family. I would say a big thing I think sucks about California it is so fractured. In the bay area is was so hard to get a sense of community. We had friends on our block but here in Missouri i know ALL my neighbors, for better or worse.

    • @thetooginator153
      @thetooginator153 Рік тому +4

      My guess is that people stay in one place longer in Missouri, so people get to know each other. Also, in California people are in more of a hurry.
      Just some thoughts…

    • @jacobs2099
      @jacobs2099 Рік тому +3

      Really? I grew in Northern California and moved to st Louis for a year for work and the sense of community is the same in both places. Honestly in Cali I found more community but maybe it's because I grew up there

    • @NAT-turners-Revenge
      @NAT-turners-Revenge Рік тому

      It's a great sense of community here 😎.... you're a nosy busy body arent u 🤔

    • @seandawson5899
      @seandawson5899 Рік тому +4

      @@jacobs2099 I live in a rual area near Springfield Missouri. St. Louis probably is just as fractured as California.

    • @seandawson5899
      @seandawson5899 Рік тому +2

      @@NAT-turners-Revenge Tavares.... Portuguese or Brazil?

  • @thegreenscreengeek
    @thegreenscreengeek Рік тому +13

    It would be nice if it weren't so fucking expensive
    - from South Carolina

  • @CommissarMoody1
    @CommissarMoody1 Рік тому +36

    I grew up in the northwest lived in the Bay area and LA for a bit and just moved out of Las Vegas. To the east coast. California is beautiful, but like the rest of the west coast I can no longer afford to live there. Or at least not to the standard I prefer, on the budget I have.
    Oh and my hot take is that California is just west coast Texas. 😁

    • @lefu87williford55
      @lefu87williford55 Рік тому +18

      Yes. Texas is just as stuck up, but with different politics. In California, they look down at you for not being rich. In Texas, they throw beer bottles at pedestrians.

    • @asphalteater615
      @asphalteater615 Рік тому +1

      Except Texas actually respects the second amendment

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 Рік тому +9

      @@lefu87williford55 Well unless you can shoot some homeless guy twice, get out of jail free, and be sorry only for your reputation it ain’t Tennessee.

    • @CommissarMoody1
      @CommissarMoody1 Рік тому +11

      @@lefu87williford55 I have had the enjoyable experience of haveing beer bottles tossed at me in both California and Texas from passing vehicle. And in Portland as well. Usually followed by a yelled insult about what they assume is my sexual preference. 😂

    • @CommissarMoody1
      @CommissarMoody1 Рік тому +11

      @@wildfire9280 Yeah no offence to people in Tennessee, but I know I did not feel safe or welcome in Memphis.

  • @hismajesty6272
    @hismajesty6272 Рік тому +27

    With the decentralization of media, and the rise of other production centers, hopefully Hollywood will start making better films since they’ll have to start competing someday.

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux Рік тому +8

      Hollywood still has the weather advantage. When they filmed Excalibur 1981, they wasted half the principal photography just waiting for the rain to stop.

    • @PG-wz7by
      @PG-wz7by Рік тому +6

      Korean film is kiing rn anyway. Set yourself free from hollywood.

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux Рік тому

      @@PG-wz7by I heard My Way (2011), most expensive Korean film ever made, flopped hard.

    • @PG-wz7by
      @PG-wz7by Рік тому +2

      @@Edax_Royeaux Hollywood has had some whopper flops, usually the more expensive and bloated, the harder the fall

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux Рік тому +4

      @@PG-wz7by Most expensive Hollywood film ever made: 410.6 million budget, box office $1.046 billion. Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides

  • @Valpo2004
    @Valpo2004 Рік тому +11

    You covered California, Mr Beat is covering New Jersey. Who is doing Florida? If you are listing states everyone loves to hate, Florida has to be in the top 5.

  • @critterjon4061
    @critterjon4061 Рік тому +17

    If you’re gonna talk about state rivalries you can’t not mention Ohio

  • @garrettblack
    @garrettblack Рік тому +14

    is Californian
    watches immediately

    • @onomatopoeia162003
      @onomatopoeia162003 Рік тому +1

      lol. Speaks in Minnesotan.
      Can't wait til we tie our record when it was 1860-1908. So, that's 1976-2024. Which I am sure we will.

  • @aelfycarcini3992
    @aelfycarcini3992 Рік тому +7

    In short, California is the US of the US...

  • @perfectallycromulent
    @perfectallycromulent Рік тому +8

    it's like, we get it, southern california is sunny. but what people from southern california don't seem to get is that a lot of people just don't care about that.

  • @DavidRichardson153
    @DavidRichardson153 Рік тому +19

    I am from Texas, and for a time, I shared that mostly jealous hatred of California. Over time, though, that mellowed out, as I came to realize that my aunt and uncle, who live in San Fran and are not exactly affluent...still have it better than many of the relatives in Texas. Pardon me for any crass language - it usually helps get my point across better, but I will censor myself.
    Many of the problems of California come from outside of the state. The San Joaquin Valley is easily one of the most water-demanding areas in the state and even the country, but it became that way because of corporations - the vast majority of which came from out-of-state - that wanted to continue growing water-demanding crops, so much so that they ended up completely draining the massive lake that used to be there. And let's not forget about what Nestlé is doing with water - that is, stealing it.
    As for the population, traffic, and homelessness, well, when it comes from being the most populous state in the country, the vast majority of which moved - and continue to move to this day - for economic opportunity, you are not only going to attract people, but you are going to attract the worst people, one way or another. They will come in as resource-stealing corporations or other criminal groups, or they will offload what they consider to be a problem into the state.
    Basically, California is treated like a sewage plant by the other states, in that it plays one of the most vital roles in society, yet everyone treats it like the sh^t that they will not stop slinging at it, and they just, will, not, stop with trying to destroy the facility that was designed to handle it. That is the funny thing about sh^t: it is going to be most prevalent at a sewage facility, so I guess to that, you can say, "No sh^t." You see this as well with their homeless levels - it is the same behavior. Couple that with many of the people in charge are tied to corporations that cause or exacerbate problems there, and how could it not come across as bad? You have people there actively working to make it worse, and unfortunately, these same people are the ones most committed to their goals - and again, so many, and I argue the vast majority, of them come from out-of-state in some form or another.
    As for the traffic, as someone who has had the experience of driving all over the country alongside my father (my total experience is still barely a percentage of what he has done), we both can declare that we will take California traffic - and I mean anywhere in California - over Austin, Texas traffic any day, for at least in California, that traffic still moves most of the time.
    I also couldn't help but notice how during those recent massive winter storms and summer heat waves in Texas that the trashing of California by Texans got significantly quieter, especially during the long stretches of power outages. Hmm, I wonder what the reason(s) for that could be...
    So while some of the hatred of California might be justified or at least argued for, it cannot be laid solely at California's feet. I look at it similarly to the New California Republic from the Fallout New Vegas game, in that yeah, it is FAR from perfect, but the other options are not exactly any better. As for the rich who regularly bash the state, you do not see them moving their operations out of there, so their words should ring hollow. Plus, as you pointed out, two of the right-wing's favorite presidents, Nixon and Reagan, came from the state, so...they have no leg to stand on.

    • @DavidRichardson153
      @DavidRichardson153 Рік тому +3

      @@woodchuck003 The state being the most populous is merely the start of the homelessness problem. It is true that it will always contribute to it, but that cannot be helped, and even then, claiming that it is a significant part of it is being disingenuous, and I apologize if that was how I sounded.
      The policies, though, go back to what I said about the worst people going to California for whatever reason and then becoming in charge, either politically, economically, or both. They may not be alone in the problem, but I will argue that they are the biggest part of it. As long as those kinds of people remain in power, homelessness there can only get worse.

  • @MerciMerciMerciMerciMerci
    @MerciMerciMerciMerciMerci Рік тому +29

    "California Uber Alles" was not a jab at California itself, but at at-the-time candidate for Governor Jerry Brown, who frontman of The Dead Kennedys Jello Biafra was not fond of, but ironically had later gone on to said he had grown to like Brown

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 Рік тому

      Really, it was just comparing Californians to Nazis. They were going for shock value and being idiots.

  • @frumtheground
    @frumtheground Рік тому +60

    KhAnubis definitely got it right as far as California's neighbors are concerned. I live in Washington and my home town has been growing exponentially for the past 10 yrs but especially when the pandemic started a LOT of people moved in from California. Not all, but most of them aren't young people, they're mostly retired or very well off, so their buying up lots of properties, making really big houses, but they leave to their back to their other houses in California during fall and winter. A lot of older resisdents also dont like how the newer californian residents are changing the local culture in the area to suite themselves. Which isn't bad, but it isn't always great either.

    • @PG-wz7by
      @PG-wz7by Рік тому +18

      As a Californian, I completely understand because I feel this way about Silicon Valley and tech bros. We're almost 70 miles away and our 'sleepy' beach town is unaffordable and crowded and full of expensive health food. I love being in a blue state, and will fight anyone to the death for California, which, btw, as a Californian, we identify the entire state as ours :)

    • @frumtheground
      @frumtheground Рік тому +10

      @@PG-wz7by I feel you. I think it's kind of like that in every state in some form or another. Every state and every city has their own unique good and bad qualities. I was born and raised in a "small rural town" but I've visited and lived in quite a few places, and California honestly wasn't the worst place I've been (as an outsider), but it is frustrating to deal with another demographic's culture coming in and changing one you already like. I don't like my hometown all that much, it's very red, but the things I do like about it are part of the smallish and quiet feel it used to have, but I also like that people comeing from other places have been adding more diversity than there ever was when I was growing up. And not just diverse in people, but in foods and things to do. It still mostly caters to older crowds, but it's better than it used to be, even if there's still a lot more that I don't like that's changed. It's basically one huge McMansion suburb overlapping onto another now and you can't get anywhere reasonably without a car now and it's ugly as hell.
      But, everyone everywhere has something. If Washingtonians aren't complaining about California, then they're complaining about Seattle. For me, I live near Spokane so I complain about Idaho lol. Can't imagine how it's like to have Silicone Valley coming to town tho, dang.

    • @genericwhitemale1114
      @genericwhitemale1114 Рік тому

      As someone who lives in Washington (moved here from Texas in 2016) I see it all the time. That's why I have a bumper sticker on my pickup that says "Go Home" with a picture of california next to it

  • @chickensandwich8808
    @chickensandwich8808 Рік тому +37

    It's somewhat like how the US could and should extrapolate how everyone here feels about California is how most of the world feels about the US.

    • @BiggestCorvid
      @BiggestCorvid Рік тому +3

      I'm one of those people who doesn't hate California so much as have no interest in watching shows set in CA

    • @chickensandwich8808
      @chickensandwich8808 Рік тому +3

      @@BiggestCorvid I wouldn't say I hate California specifically, but there are things I dislike about it. But there are things you like or dislike about every state. CA just seems to be an easy target.

    • @PG-wz7by
      @PG-wz7by Рік тому +1

      @@chickensandwich8808 Hyper-American?

  • @Aliwiththehookuporiginals
    @Aliwiththehookuporiginals Рік тому +4

    Californians aren’t the problem, we’re chillin
    It’s everyone who came to California who made it suck

  • @tastyscavenger
    @tastyscavenger Рік тому +6

    Land of hypocrisy:
    rich people talking about saving the environment while living in 2 million dollar mcmansions in the middle of the desert with green grass lawns. Then a fire hits after a drought, burns it down and is subsidized by federal taxes which places like the midwest end up paying for. NIMBY means that low income housing is not only incredibly inefficient during things like heatwaves causing brownouts. I wouldn't hate California's as much if they didn't live in a desert but insist on not having a lifestyle conducive to one. Same with Florida's rebuilding in hurricane flood zones and then saying it was an unexpected disaster when it inevitably gets flushed.

    • @penguinkingshorts2370
      @penguinkingshorts2370 3 місяці тому

      Is that what the tabloids and News tell you? Cause my life is nothing like that.

  • @briandoolittle3422
    @briandoolittle3422 Рік тому +26

    "wildfires are a problem in all arid regions in the U.S".
    Not just arid regions. The recent bolt creek fire in Western Washington, which burned 14,600 acres, started less than a mile from the town of Skykomish, Washington. Skykomish gets 102 inches of rain a year. The surrounding forest is temperate rainforest.
    The entire west side of the Cascade Mountains in Washington is very wet. The Bolt Creek Fire was not the only fire on the west side this year, and while this was a worse year than normal, it is not unprecedented to have fires on the west side.
    Of coarse, a decade ago this absolutely would have been considered unprecedented. Climate Change is radically altering Western Washington for the worse. From dying glaciers, to a whole wildfire season. Hotter, longer, dryer summers, and plantlife that is not used to prolonged dryness and heat.

  • @dkoda840
    @dkoda840 Рік тому +24

    Car dependent Single family zoning…is the cause of 2 of California’s biggest problems. Homelessness(high cost of living), terrible infrastructure but the infrastructure is largely across the entire nation.

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux Рік тому

      Single family zoning helps prevent the traffic situation from careening over to catastrophic. It don't take a genius to see that the roads in Los Angeles are severely overtaxed, so increasing population density is absolutely not a viable solution.

    • @dkoda840
      @dkoda840 Рік тому +10

      @@Edax_Royeaux there is so much wrong with what you just said. Car traffic this bad is exclusive to the US and Canada because we’re some of the only countries DEPENDENT and only allow for cars to be used as a viable means of transportation.

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux Рік тому +1

      @@dkoda840 There are countries with far worse traffic problems, get your head out of your echo chamber and see the rest of the world more. Top Gear even had the famous special where the presenters were stuck in a single traffic jam in Uganda for over a day.

    • @dkoda840
      @dkoda840 Рік тому +8

      @@Edax_Royeaux Yes there are countries with worse traffic. However I’m not comparing the US to Uganda, I’m comparing it to the Netherlands, Japan, the Nordic Nations, Germany, China. You know countries the US should be compared to. What echo chamber? I’ve been to 24 different countries for extensive periods of time and studied various topics. I’ve seen how traffic calming and infrastructure and real estate developments shape society and influence traffic.

    • @dkoda840
      @dkoda840 Рік тому +4

      @@Edax_Royeaux Also good in comparison isn’t good objectively. I prefer good objectively not in comparison.

  • @H.G.Wells-ishWells-ish
    @H.G.Wells-ishWells-ish Рік тому +6

    Been a Californian for 48 yrs, and just left. I'm in Texas now, and starting to hear minor things here and there. But nothing too bad. I was expecting much worse. Maybe they're just being polite.

  • @gigi.z.
    @gigi.z. Рік тому +4

    almost every time i watch an nbc bay area news video there are comments expressing disdain for california. i understand reasons not to like california but nonresidents don’t need to leave negative comments on videos that aren’t relevant to them

  • @Oklahomie_Friendly
    @Oklahomie_Friendly Рік тому +6

    About the exodus of Californians and it’s perception atleast here in Oklahoma , the view is not about people from Latin America , when people in Oklahoma rail against “Californians” they speak almost exclusively about rich(by our standards) socially progressive white people who work well paying jobs and raise the cost of living here in Oklahoma while also being very much against the cultural grain.

  • @Raptor3698
    @Raptor3698 Рік тому +6

    “The roads are terrible”.
    Me: HAVE YOU SEEN DC???

    • @hismajesty6272
      @hismajesty6272 Рік тому +3

      Those roads look fine to me (probably since I’m Louisianan, and our roads aren’t exactly “stellar”). The problem is probably all of that traffic.

    • @Raptor3698
      @Raptor3698 Рік тому

      @@hismajesty6272 Nah the roads are pretty well paved (save for some spots out in the suburban areas), the problem is just kinda how the roads across the city are laid out, on top how confusing it is to find spots to park, and some garage parking policies are kind of all over the place (especially if you’re working in the city). Kinda just makes the public transportation system much better to use.

    • @Raptor3698
      @Raptor3698 Рік тому

      @@hismajesty6272 and yeah traffic also doesn’t help lol.

  • @GeneaVlogger
    @GeneaVlogger Рік тому +8

    The cameraman from the rooftop interviews was absolutely amazing. You should give them a RAISE!!!

  • @historyking9984
    @historyking9984 Рік тому +6

    Most of the homeless in California are from out of state so it’s problems in other states that are making it worse here. Obviously actions taken by the state regarding the situation aren’t the best but still

  • @jacobnavarro3675
    @jacobnavarro3675 Рік тому +7

    the law about straws didn't really result in "sippy" cups. those were already in use but they only really existed in coffee places. what it did introduce to restaurants was the much-maligned paper straws that Californians are certainly familiar with. but those didn't last long. and besides, you could always just ask for a plastic straw at any restaurant. TBH the rise of bobba drinks that started in California really put the nail in the coffin for any kind of plastic straw ban. I'd say that now, youd be surprised to hear that state ever had any such ban.

  • @erikgustafson9319
    @erikgustafson9319 Рік тому +8

    Though the nimbys are getting less and less of what they want by the day Have you seen LAs plans for Barcelona superblocks

  • @damianm-nordhorn116
    @damianm-nordhorn116 Рік тому +98

    As the Prussians said: "Viel Feind, viel Ehr"
    which literally translates to "many foes, great honor" and means that you earned others envy towards you.
    ..or as one of America greatest poets ever once said:
    "..and the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate,
    Baby I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
    I share it of, I shake it off"

    • @perfectallycromulent
      @perfectallycromulent Рік тому

      Prussia is one of the few nations to ever be officially abolished from existing after being defeated by those many foes. Don't go to Prussia for political advice. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_Prussia

    • @Yvonne-Bella
      @Yvonne-Bella Рік тому +1

      *shake

    • @maxschreck4095
      @maxschreck4095 Рік тому +4

      "Viel Feind, viel Ehr" was the motto of Georg von Frundsberg and means that you earn more honor fighting a larger foe. I don´t know if he ever did. Haven´t heard that meaning, but I kinda like it since I can have really controversial opinions at times...

  • @Spiral.Dynamics
    @Spiral.Dynamics Рік тому +5

    One of my childhood memories was an irrational desire for California and all the weirdos to fall into the ocean.

  • @CloroxBleach-nu8vo
    @CloroxBleach-nu8vo Рік тому +8

    Hey cypher I just wanted to wish you a Happy Veterans Day and thank you so much for your service! I always love your videos, it makes my days stuck in the barracks bearable 🤣

  • @lefu87williford55
    @lefu87williford55 Рік тому +17

    People who run away from small-town life in some red state escape to California and form a new culture around that shared experience. Then, form Hollywood and Silicon Valley.

  • @LevitatingCups
    @LevitatingCups Рік тому +5

    I am baffled why youtube would age restrict your videos, they teach similiar material in elementary, atleast around here.

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  Рік тому +1

      I think that one got hit for showing footage of January 6, but i can't be sure, because they don't explain a damn thing

  • @Sly88Frye
    @Sly88Frye Рік тому +2

    Came here from the Mr Beat video about everyone hating New Jersey.
    I've lived in NorCal my whole life. Santa Rosa to be exact. 1 hour north of San Francisco and the biggest city in Wine Country and the North Bay. I love living here, but I do have problems with it. It simple is getting just too expensive here. My immediate family all have moved to Idaho because it's more affordable. Well my brother and his wife are actually quite conservative so that helps them. My mom is still quite liberal so she is having to deal with opposing politics where she moved to, but anyways California I believe would be an incredible state if it would stop being so damn expensive here.
    Any place that is more affordable in California is a completely undesirable place to live with no work to do. I managed to get into an affordable housing apartment in Santa Rosa, but the rent is $1,254 per month. In December it will go up to $1,291 per month. The average rent here is around $2,000 per month. It really shouldn't be that high. This isn't some massive metropolitan city. It has 178,000+ people which is not small by any means, and it has some cool things to do, but for the most part, to find the most stuff to do and go to big events you have to travel to SF or Sacramento, or San Jose, Oakland. Just other bigger cities. We do have the Luther Burbank Center here and sometimes relatively large names perform there. Lewis Black the comedian for one, but most of the time you have to travel out to go to something big.
    In 2018 and 2020 there was a proposition on the ballot that would have allowed cities to put a cap on rent so it would be more affordable to live here, but each time the prop failed miserably. People fell for the anti ads even though if you actually read the facts on the proposition itself and the pros and cons there really weren't any cons at all. Unfortunately attempts to make this state more affordable have been defeated and nobody in charge is doing anything to make it more affordable.

    • @robbiem4624
      @robbiem4624 Рік тому

      Santa Rosa that is the bay area.

  • @brantjustilian3791
    @brantjustilian3791 Рік тому +10

    You forgot about California’s problem with Forest management. There’s a serious lack of cleaning up all those dead trees in those National parks.

  • @theartistformidablyknownas3807
    @theartistformidablyknownas3807 Рік тому +20

    I once was asked by a friend why I disliked California so much, I said "strict gun laws", he responded "idk why you guys are so hung up on that, just do it illegally"

    • @nevets2371
      @nevets2371 Рік тому +9

      Based

    • @jnieto490
      @jnieto490 Рік тому +4

      💀 one of my beefs with California too honestly

    • @a.alphonso6193
      @a.alphonso6193 Рік тому

      what an asinine reason to not want to live somewhere. get real lol. are you a call of duty character that needs a full arsenal or something ??
      i couldn't care less about something so petty. the only reason CA's gun laws are so strict are because of the Stockton elementary school shooting in the 90s. which, whaddaya know, was immediately addressed by enacting stricter laws. but we all know you all could care less about that

  • @simple-commentator-not-rea7345

    People DO seem to love hanging out in California when it's post-apocalyptic and written by Osbidian

  • @jmwild1
    @jmwild1 Рік тому +6

    I was just in California last week, and as a Missourian I felt like it was stepping into another dimension.

    • @NAT-turners-Revenge
      @NAT-turners-Revenge Рік тому

      Your state is a S-hole

    • @jacobs2099
      @jacobs2099 Рік тому +6

      I've lived both in California and st Louis and yeah I get what u mean. A lot of Missouri seems like a 3rd world country

    • @jmwild1
      @jmwild1 Рік тому +6

      @@jacobs2099 I'm born and raised in Kansas City. There were things I wish we had here that SoCal has, like a real rail system, but at the same time there were things I didn't like such as the car culture that really inhibited that same public transportation infrastructure.

  • @Googledeservestodie
    @Googledeservestodie Рік тому +3

    A lot of people say California is bad for the traffic but having driven through most of the Western states, Colorado you suck the most. I have never gotten in more close calls and seen more accidents than just being at an intersection in colorado. Half of y'all don't know what the speed limit is because you're either going 15 in a 60 road or you're going 60 in a school zone and there's no in between, and y'all don't seem to know how merging works? If my blinker is on to get in the Middle Lane and you're in the far opposite lane, do you think that we can occupy the same space at the same time and that you can just merge into the exact same spotb, with the blinker optional? I'm in an SUV if you guys want to be on the receiving end of that feel free but I don't think either of our insurances are going to like it very much.

  • @randomtinypotatocried
    @randomtinypotatocried Рік тому +4

    For me it's definitely the Californians who are pretty arrogant about how California is the chosen land (had a few say that shit on a campaign I was working on and it made me miss NY) and they don't know how to drive in the snow. Atleast New Jerseyans know how drive in the snow (though they can't figure out how to use a turn signal)

    • @nabeel8194
      @nabeel8194 9 днів тому

      Thats not us, texans are lIke that

  • @Illumisepoolist
    @Illumisepoolist Рік тому +6

    I have an artist from California. I have been using her characters for some years. One of the negatives of California that I find are Earthquakes.

    • @Brocko_SD
      @Brocko_SD Рік тому +7

      I’ve lived in San Diego forever and I’ve never seen an earthquake worse than a nuisance

    • @SanFranFan30
      @SanFranFan30 Рік тому +3

      @@Brocko_SD Earthquakes are usually worse the farther north you go up the coast because population centers are closer to the fault lines.

    • @mrbn2022
      @mrbn2022 Рік тому +1

      I've lived through a number of the larger earthquakes that CA gets occasionally (the state averages one relatively large quake per area every twenty years or so). I'll take that over the guaranteed floods, blizzards, tornadoes/hurricanes, monsoons, dust storms, summers of 110 degree heat with hundred percent humidity, etc, etc, etc ... that every other part of the country deals with each and every year.

    • @jnieto490
      @jnieto490 Рік тому

      😂 earthquakes only happen in certain parts tho

  • @erikberg1623
    @erikberg1623 Рік тому +2

    High taxes, expensive housing, one party rule, ultra liberal nanny state & tons of homeless. I moved from El Cajon up to Portland Oregon. Same politics, same high cost of living just rains more up here. I still have a condo in Palm Springs.

  • @Googledeservestodie
    @Googledeservestodie Рік тому +9

    As someone who grew up in California I both love it and have so many things wrong with it. The thing that gets me the most is that The stereotype of liberal California is completely wrong yet everyone believes it. San Fran is not that truly progressive, the tech Bros are all libertarians and would bulldoze their mother's house if it meant their company got $5 in extra stock, and these are the people who are able to lobby the state government to do things like crackdown on homelessness and write permits to build mega mansions where there could be reasonably priced condos. I grew up in Riverside County, which is a little more than a stop between the Coast and Las Vegas. We had all of our businesses shutter in the recession and it never got better. My parents lost their house in '08 and have never gotten back on their feet, they are probably never going to retire, and when I came of age to work there were no good jobs, it was between the kiosk at the mall or Walmart even if you went to college. This is because like many inland California cities the local government sold the town out to developers who promised that rich urbanites would buy large homes out there if they were allowed to develop track homes. An "if you build it they will come" philosophy. Well they lied, all those homes sit empty because none of the locals can afford it and the city folk would be crazy to make the commute back and forth to live in the country but work in the city. We used to have local agriculture and great fields to birdwatch in, now it's just AstroTurf that nobody asked for.

  • @gyro4250
    @gyro4250 Рік тому +1

    I remember growing up in the 80s in north idaho and seeing signs on peoples fences "Californians go home" "Fuck californians" and so on. The reason for this hatred is economic. When you live in the most expensive housing in the country and sell your house for a value that can buy you two houses elsewhere. It drives up land prices in the area where one could move to. Yeah there might be some political tropes about californians mass exodus or whatever, but that is independent of actual reality. For over 40 years an amount of californians have been selling their houses for huge dollars and buying dream homes out of state. This has a negative impression on their new neighbors

  • @Mindflayer911
    @Mindflayer911 Рік тому +26

    I grew up in Garden Grove (Southern California) and while the weather is wonderful the traffic and cost of living drove me to leave at the first opportunity as well as a good chunk of my high school graduating class.
    I was commuting 2-3 hours (one way) to Irvine for work and it SUCKED. Cost of living is a nationwide joke. I love the environment and them parks and stuff but I can live without them. The Reggae and Punk rock scene in Cali are for sure were it’s at.
    Currently live in South Carolina. California has a place in my heart for sure..but just to visit for a week or two at most. 😂

    • @boardcertifiable
      @boardcertifiable Рік тому +8

      2 to 3 hours from Garden Grove?!? Which freeways were you taking?

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux Рік тому +12

      Isn't Garden Grove like 4 miles from Irvine? Residential streets (with the stop signs) should have you there in a 30 minutes.

    • @NAT-turners-Revenge
      @NAT-turners-Revenge Рік тому

      Fair enough 😎 we miss u

    • @Sekushiwolf
      @Sekushiwolf Рік тому

      @@Edax_Royeaux lol no GG is NOT like 4 miles from Irvine. I live here. And no, it doesn't matter whether you take surface streets or the highway, rush our traffic between both locations is a nightmare.

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux Рік тому

      @@Sekushiwolf Then it's 5 miles. I've looked at the map, it's 4-5 miles from one border to another. No doubt your leaving from the interior of the city boundaries which makes it seem longer, but the two cities are quite close to each other.

  • @bman6065
    @bman6065 Рік тому +4

    I like how you reference punk but when you sampled F**k Hollywood by Anti Heroes you endured to me a lot more. From Atlanta and have likely seen them play more than any other band

  • @Warriorcats64
    @Warriorcats64 Рік тому +5

    People hate California here for the same reason much of the world "hates" (or hates) America and Americans.
    It's a big, super successful place that loves to moralize to everyone else about everything and anything, while hiding its own problems.
    It controls the pop culture, which drowns out everyone else. It's to the point that the slang and dialect are the default, while the "yinz" and "might could"s are as specialized as say...Swedish. Everyone has an opinion of the place, maybe well-informed, but often not.
    It's so geographically diverse that you literally don't even need to leave the state like New Yorkers need Florida or Texans need Colorado. So then, Californians don't often leave 'cuz they don't need to.
    It's super libertine in attitude, which makes it a great place for individual thought and expression, but a terrible place to actually get help and support because "bootstraps". It's liberal compared to most of the country, but not liberal enough to the places it wants to be and makes alliances with.
    All of these factors make California very insulated and inward, which makes them appear "ignorant", just as America is to the world, and then they don't even care. This is infuriating.
    Finally, it's too expensive to do anything. That's the reason I left.

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 Рік тому +1

      I agree with your assessment of California as "phony liberal." This video was incorrect in citing the "New Left" influence on the state. Not only are hippies NOT New Left (they just got lumped in unfairly with the SDS, Weathermen, etc.) but most California Democrats are left-libertarian, which could not be any further from the New Left and borders on being Republican in some ways. Sure, some Californians will say that socialism is cool, but that's just out of hatred of rich people; practically nobody in this state actually wants to try socialism. The only genuine "New Left" Californians are certain Hispanic-American, African-American, and Native American activists (although, granted, we have a lot of those), along with the usual Caucasian moonbat university students.
      I myself am a California Democrat, but part of the old-school, William Jennings Bryan/Franklin Roosevelt breed thereof. A century ago, California had a lot of those people.

  • @joeneri150
    @joeneri150 Рік тому +3

    All problems California has always started in big cities like Los Angeles and San Francisco and spread their problems throughout counties and towns like a disease. The homeless problem, high cost of living, bad traffic, and high crime all started in those big cities and sent their problems throughout because they didn't want to deal with their problems properly. I don't blame most Californians for why the housing cost here are high, and why other state like Oregon and Washington for example are having same problem. I blame all the rich people who think they have all the power to buy every property and raise the prices of them just because they can.

  • @Chudchanning
    @Chudchanning Рік тому +1

    I'm a former born and raised Northern Californian, lived in (right outside the gates of) Yosemite national park. I left because I was priced out. The extreme neoliberal politics tend to spread out toward other states, and people who live a slower conservative pace of life typically aren't open to any of that since they don't live in cultural melting pots or encounter much difference in values. For me the living costs were like a boot on the neck, we hated tourists, but depended on tourism for maintaining a job year around. mountain prices are higher than urban prices, and as middle class people got priced out of the cities they started moving up north which eventually brought their prices up where I was at, all while my pay stayed exactly the same. I started out pating 600 a month and toward the end i was paying 1,000 dollars for a literal 1940s prtable building. I faced 4 consecutive rent raises 4 months in a row before I had to move back with my dad. Then the crumbling infrastructure was the final straw, I refuse to live somewhere where the power company can charge me the same monthly price while they kill the power whenever they damn well please, and they're doing nothing to repair the faulty power grid that is literally killing us via fires. The forest fires got old too, I didn't enjoy facing the prospect of losing everything every time some idiot flatlander left their camp fire burning and drove back to the bay area. To top it off the weather is only nice in Southern Cali, everywhere else is fucking miserably hot. I used the covid relief Checks and moved to Washington state and prefer it so much more. the temperature is nice and in my opinion the forests here are way more beautiful than Yosemite ever was. But when you're trapped in one ttle town for 26 years I suppose the magic is lost. I like the California landscape and music culture, but ultimately we were kind of like a crackhead in a Gucci suit, it looks nice in pictures but is dying from the inside out unless you're of the elite class or have the privilege of owning a house

  • @claudiadarling9441
    @claudiadarling9441 Рік тому +3

    I've never heard anyone in Minnesota complain about California. But we're happy doing our own thing and not whining.

    • @boardcertifiable
      @boardcertifiable Рік тому +5

      That's because Minnesota is cool.
      I'll see myself out.

    • @randomtinypotatocried
      @randomtinypotatocried Рік тому +1

      @@boardcertifiable Honestly driving through Minnesota and it was a pretty chill state. I won't mind driving through Minnesota again

    • @nabeel8194
      @nabeel8194 9 днів тому

      Thats good means you guys are not jealous and secure

  • @codeyvargas9880
    @codeyvargas9880 Рік тому +24

    WI native living in CA now. What irritates me about this state is how rude the people tend to be (Being from the Midwest we’re friendly and *gasp* say hi to strangers that we walk past in public. Same story with the south, having lived in GA, KY and visited several more but in Cali people look at you like you grew a second head), how expensive it is to live even in rural areas, the grandstanding politicians that can’t seem to figure out how to use a near $100 billion surplus when we have a homeless crisis that’s getting worse, and the general attitude people seem to hold towards other states, acting like they’re uncivilized unlike “classy” California with their crap covered SF streets and high taxes.

    • @TheWedabest
      @TheWedabest Рік тому +8

      The rude attitude, you will find that in any big city. If you travel to a rural part of california, the people there are very friendly and will help a total stranger.

    • @JH-lu9lx
      @JH-lu9lx Рік тому +7

      It's very humorous to read a Wisconsin native complain about people being rude. I can tell you many first hand stories of the rudeness of people from Wisconsin as a native of Illinois. Prime example would be the term that is used to describe Illinois residents (F.I.B.). I could tell you it stands for but that could get me into youtube trouble as it contains profanity. Hypocrisy is not a good look.

    • @TheDanhewitt
      @TheDanhewitt Рік тому +3

      @TheWedabest my worst experiences with people have been in the rural parts of california. not that I haven't met nice people in the rural parts, but the worst people have been from there, too.

    • @unholyrevenger72
      @unholyrevenger72 Рік тому +6

      The homeless problem is not a function of money. It's mostly a function of Nimbyism. Everyone in Cali will say we should use that money to help the homeless, but turn around and say "just dont use that money in my backyard."

    • @TheWedabest
      @TheWedabest Рік тому

      @@TheDanhewitt really? It's been the opposite for me!

  • @Yosemite25
    @Yosemite25 Рік тому +4

    California is the prettiest state in the country… every climate, great places to go and see, beaches.. skiing, forests, no humidity, Yosemite, it is Gorgeous! But…. We know the problems with it🤦🏻‍♂️. If you make heavy six figures…. You will love it!

  • @chadjustice1736
    @chadjustice1736 Рік тому +3

    It seems to me that California is the very definition of Government over reach. No I'm not jealous of California, I wouldn't necessarily say I hate California either. It's just not for me.

  • @juliopeinado2660
    @juliopeinado2660 Рік тому +4

    Tbh, I feel there are some people who despise California for the wrong reasons (mostly political). But it more has something to do with jealousy and hatred of liberalism in general. People see California as a Reverso Texas, meaning the example of Liberalism.

    • @gman7497
      @gman7497 2 дні тому

      Yup as the biggest and most influential liberal state, conservatives see it as a major roadblock to Trump and others getting elected.

  • @heathercontois4501
    @heathercontois4501 Рік тому +1

    I don't hate California, I don't hate its general population and its a beautiful state. My problem is that I have grown up with the understanding that California has pushed its incredibly high standards for certain areas on all the other states. I really can't remember all of them from growing up. I also am under the understanding that they have been one of the states that has used high housing cost, high taxes and a stagnant pay rate to kind of "elite" themselves into alienating the bulk of their populace. And these people don't all leave for lower cost of living states. I understand loving the state you live in. It's kind of like my experience with Bloomington, Indiana. That particular town is a university town. 20 years ago, even, housing was so high you would see 6-8 students sharing a 3br house to be able to pay rent, while there were buildings the university owned that sat empty, instead of converting them to dorms. Then the local legislature was moving to gentrify the town, to the point people who were regular residents were find employment elsewhere and leaving, local businesses that thrived on the student populace were slowly failing, and this was the last time I was there 12 years ago. Even the people running the university managed to upset the tenured professors enough to the point they left, taking their grants with them. This is how I see California behaving as a state.

  • @jayfrank1913
    @jayfrank1913 Рік тому +3

    DK=One of the most prevalent graffiti tags I saw growing up in Seattle the 80s & 90s.
    I only saw them once at the Moore Theatre c.1984.
    RIP: Darren Henley.

  • @karenwang313
    @karenwang313 Рік тому +3

    I've lived in California all my life and the Jesus guy is right. California is great, its the people who live here that are insufferable. They're all a bunch of hypocrites who claim to care about the poor and downtroden while voting for policies that keep them living in the gutter. Homelessness and rent is an increasing issue, but the people here do everything in their power to not build housing. Theres too much traffic, but every measure to expand public transportation. We have a larger population, economy, and have smarter people than Canada so there is no doubt we could have a better universal healthcare system than they do, but we don't. My complaints go on and on and on.

  • @elgatto3133
    @elgatto3133 Рік тому +4

    I greatly dislike Silicon Valley culture and what it has done to both California and the world. I think California is a deeply hypocritical place with regards to all the lip service people pay to equality and kindness, but also how little of that you actually see reflected in housing and financial policy.
    Also, I reiterate, Silicon Valley sucks and has priced out so many people in San Fran.

    • @gman7497
      @gman7497 2 дні тому

      There's 33 million people here who are from various states or various countries, various politics, ethnicity, economic backgrounds etc. It's a very schizo state coz EVERYONE moved here.

  • @dubvuchyea502
    @dubvuchyea502 Рік тому +3

    I can honestly say I'm not at all jealous of Cali, I just hate it. I love the weather, landscape and people where I live. The politics are mild here. There is no amount of money you could give me to live in Cali. I hate the people.

  • @cthomaspeasant3059
    @cthomaspeasant3059 Рік тому +3

    The Dead Kennedys clip is a blast from the past

  • @agentzapdos4960
    @agentzapdos4960 Рік тому +2

    The California wildfires once changed the moon red in ONTARIO, CANADA.

  • @Mr_Fairdale
    @Mr_Fairdale Рік тому +2

    Casual Historian says the weather is bad in Central Valley. Not compared to basically every place not the on the California coast. Sacramento has a better climate than like 90% of the country lol

  • @blessedveteran
    @blessedveteran Рік тому +4

    I subscribed after watching Mr. Beat 👍

  • @saladyn1000
    @saladyn1000 Рік тому +1

    Great content as always and some cool new songs to my playlist. Thanks, Cypher!

  • @digdougx
    @digdougx Рік тому +9

    As a Californian, the staw laws were always local. Some counties banned them, most didn't. For instance, LA County was all in on anti-straw. Next door, Riverside and San Bernardino counties never banned plastic straws. I don't think Orange did either, but I could be wrong.

  • @giladpellaeon1691
    @giladpellaeon1691 Рік тому +2

    I want to see a video like this about my home state, Rhode Island. Maybe a "Why people think Rhode Island doesn't exist or is a part of New York."

  • @flaviosouza4449
    @flaviosouza4449 Рік тому +22

    Muito legal esse vídeo!!! Adoro saber mais sobre estados americanos!!! Saudações do Rio de Janeiro, Brasil!

    • @UlisesHeureaux
      @UlisesHeureaux Рік тому +1

      Acho esta resposta bem engracada... Voce odeia o Sao Paulo, neh? Conforme o estereotipico, todo carioca fala mal da cidade de Sao Paulo.

    • @thiago292
      @thiago292 Рік тому +1

      @@UlisesHeureaux todo mundo odeia São Paulo, até Paulista odeia São Paulo

    • @flaviosouza4449
      @flaviosouza4449 Рік тому +1

      @@UlisesHeureaux mais ou menos isso. Eu não odeio São Paulo, pois já convivi com muitos paulistas. Embora eu não seja o maior fã de SP.

    • @UlisesHeureaux
      @UlisesHeureaux Рік тому +3

      @@thiago292 eu não sabia disso… eu sou dos EUA. Não entendo essas tretas e rivalidades entre SP e RJ, mas eu já ouvi falar

    • @UlisesHeureaux
      @UlisesHeureaux Рік тому +2

      @@flaviosouza4449 tá bom então

  • @MarkLatimerRussell
    @MarkLatimerRussell Рік тому +12

    Jesus when you asked him why ppl hate Californians: “Hey man, crucify me once, shame on you…”

  • @jaredray7034
    @jaredray7034 Рік тому +2

    Heh. Having grown up with a longhorn fan in my household, I can tell you the Texas makes rivalries as a hobby. California isn’t special in that regard.

  • @hotcoals2291
    @hotcoals2291 Рік тому +2

    I live in California and it’s an absolute shit show. It’s dirty as hell and crime is on the rise in almost every city. This is only exacerbated by the cities that effectively use “catch and release” policies (especially when it comes to shoplifting, car break-ins, etc).

    • @CTJM_Middleton
      @CTJM_Middleton Рік тому +1

      Well it's no different from any other state.

  • @lizgreer6888
    @lizgreer6888 Рік тому +1

    I'm from Massachusetts where our streets are thin, curvy, hilly, congested and dangerous. So I was amazed by the huge, wide and expansive streets of California. Until I got to LA, that place was congested and dirty and way over saturated with businesses. I loved San Diego but would never go back to LA

  • @Bradyboy26
    @Bradyboy26 Рік тому +2

    In the interviews I think you asked to many people from calli why people hate calli. Would have been more interesting if you asked more people who hate calli why they hate them

  • @bubla2659
    @bubla2659 Рік тому +2

    I want to see a video like this but with North and South Carolina, I don’t know why we hate each other but we do

  • @sisyphusvasilias3943
    @sisyphusvasilias3943 Рік тому

    EFFIN WELCOME BACK!!!!!!!!
    IS this a one off or can we hope for more regular vids?
    Ill take whatever I can get

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  Рік тому +1

      There's one next week, but otherwise, I'm still on monthly releases

  • @Raevnard
    @Raevnard Рік тому +28

    I am also a 5th generation Californian on my mother’s side, but the 1st generation American on my father’s side, as he is from Denmark. I also don’t even live in the US right now, but in Denmark, but I was born in California and my experiences of California will never leave me. I will likely move back to the US due to the issues of immigration to Denmark that will effectively prevent me from ever marrying a non-EU citizen even though I’m also a Danish citizen, and letting them live here with me, unlike the US; and my first choice to move back to is California.
    I do genuinely think that a lot of the criticism of California that comes from outside is very much rooted in jealousy and the wish to find the problems with California, and Californians as a collective people. But I’m pretty sure this comment section is already talking about it ad naseum. One thing I do want to say though is about that the homelessness issue that was mentioned by the UA-camrs before also miss a key point of the issue, and that is that homeless people are literally exported to here from the rest of the country by those state governments, as California is the only state (that isn’t a certain island chain in the middle of the fucking Pacific) where you will not freeze or boil to death if you sleep rough. Why these people aren’t in shelters despite this fact is, yeah, definitely because of NIMBYism. I wish for that sentiment to wither and die soon, because no matter where you are in life, you deserve a helping hand. But at least California’s heart is in the right place to direct solving that.

  • @syndicatestraffer
    @syndicatestraffer Рік тому +8

    Travis Gillbert defines my entire time and living in California - so much "not in my backyard" mentality and I've made comments at my disgust of it on numerous occasions.

  • @MicaiahBaron
    @MicaiahBaron Рік тому +2

    Casual Historian really wants to say "They're too liberal" but holds himself back, you can just see the look on his face (or the videos on his channel, to be fair).

  • @Cabral_del_Norte
    @Cabral_del_Norte Рік тому

    Good video! I love the analysis of those interviews. Great job.

  • @jacobnavarro3675
    @jacobnavarro3675 Рік тому +2

    hold up... the lowest income housing of California is MORE expensive than the highest of other states??? And I thought they were the ones getting high.

  • @fix30
    @fix30 Рік тому +1

    Norcal is more chill then socal

  • @sethaniel1
    @sethaniel1 Рік тому +2

    As a fellow PNWerner, Washington is the superior California-alternative.

    • @randomtinypotatocried
      @randomtinypotatocried Рік тому +2

      From what little I got to see of Washington, it really is a beautiful state

  • @TheGhostOf2020
    @TheGhostOf2020 Рік тому +2

    13:30 is absolutely hilarious. How did I never know about this?

  • @onomatopoeia162003
    @onomatopoeia162003 Рік тому +2

    Left coast.... Looks here in MN since 1976 :)
    Gonna tie the record when it was 1860-1908 in 2024.

  • @Ember-Rodriguez
    @Ember-Rodriguez Рік тому +2

    Arizona here and even without the political rift my group does in fact hate California.
    The reasons I would give are economic disparity. When Californians move here they driving up prices (many apartments get bought out and have prices doubled). Bad representation with bad college students ASU allows anyone and here in Tucson the UofA is where rich California kids come to their 3rd or 4th choice and generate bad headlines 24/7. Finally I would say there is an actual cultural difference, easier for me to Identify with people from Sonora, New Mexico, and Utah since were all a lot less urban and have a slower pace of life. And the most pointed I would say that there is a grain of truth of the perception of Californians in LA specifically being wannabe celebrities' and influencers, I think a lot of that is selection bias because people with those goals move there but that crowd drives culture and can manifest it and so when we have boomerangs it reflects poorly.

    • @Ember-Rodriguez
      @Ember-Rodriguez Рік тому

      Also for my family history hard to have a lot of love for California since my tata and his family were born in longbeach but deported when they kicked out all Mexicans nearly dying in poverty before eventually migrating back into the US in Arizona.

    • @kozmickitsuneame
      @kozmickitsuneame 6 місяців тому

      There are a lot of delusional people that live there. Many in sol cal tend to be quite quick to Go from zero to 100. I used to be a more relatively friendly and open person but you can't really be too genuine in a place like that. Now I tend to be heavily on guard with them.