Low power and high agility yea but then you got things like the gr 86 or brz for about $400 difference at msrp and and about equal the price at 30k each used same year and all the one thing I see the only thing I see the Miata has over a used boxter cayman or a newly used 86 or brz would be it’s convertible. now don’t get me wrong I’m not saying I don’t like the Miata I’m just saying it’s illogical to me when you have better options specially when you’re thinking of buying a new Mx-5 when you have older more iconic 98 and older Mx-5 for 15k or less especially if you’re thinking of the modding scene. I’ve even found independent sellers that’s sell their Miata’s for 2-5k so a newer Mx-5 doesn’t make sense to me
@@mondragonmsaul308 People that buy a new Miata are people that want a cheap, reliable two-seater convertible little sporty rocket. And I bet you that the people that sell the old one, are in most cases getting a new one.
@@mondragonmsaul308 @mondragonmsaul308 As someone who has an NA and NB Miata, I get your point. However, the trouble with the GR86/FRS is the boxer engine. The miata has never needed improved oil baffling due to oil starvation while cornering. Unless you're pushing over 400hp, it's not needed. The GR86, however, will have a void warranty if the engine dies due to oil starvation, caused by a track day. This is despite the marketing about it being a track-ready vehicle. For this reason, the miata is more desirable than a GR86. I don't know if I would even autocross in a stock FRS/BRZ/GR86. True, this can be fixed with aftermarket parts. However, add the multi-piece head assembly, the weak head gaskets, the requirement to remove the cams to pull both heads, the hassle of a quad-cam on a 4cyl engine, AND the requirement to disconnect the pistons from the rods just to pull the engine apart. The comparison is a model of simplicity to an over complicated mess. I pulled the head on my NB with the turbo manifold and intake still attached. The camshafts were left in place as well. All the extra complexity on the boxer engine just to create a better center of gravity. The two are not even close in terms of upkeep. I see NA and NB miatas everywhere I turn. It is insanely rare to see a 90s or early 2000s WRX on the road today. That MSRP difference is just a bribe. Cheers.
I 100% agree on that the miata/mx5 fomula should never change. Back in the 90's there were so many small sporty compact cars. All of them with exception to the miata, got fat, cramped with electronics and tech and lost what they were about. Lightweight and simple.
roughly a week or so ago I saw a video where they interviewed the engineer who designed the miata. In his own words: The miata was never meant to go fast or be a technological masterpiece. I designed this car so it would be fun to drive.
I am 66 years old now . I own a 1993 automatic Miata because my legs are too long to shift. They hit the steering wheel . I just rescued a 1991 Miata last week that was sitting under an oak tree for five years. It’s a mess but is worth saving, no rust thankfully ! Will turn over but will not fire . For 500 dollars I can’t go wrong . Both are white automatics, all original, including wheels . I told my daughter I have a new set of twins.😂 thanks for sharing this video with us out here in south east Alabama USA ☮️❤️
@@TylerDurden-oy2hm thanks for the reply . I also have a 1974 MG midget that is fun to drive but not nearly as fun as the Miata . Hope all is well with your family and friends ☮️❤️
Learn to drive manual, at 66 it will give you a new lease on life lol. I'm 6'4 an am completely fine driving a manual Miata, whereas when I drove an auto it didn't feel sporty at all. with the sluggish transmission and the amount of power that's lost through it.
@@grannysgushinggash thanks for the reply . I guess I’m just getting lazy in my old age !😂. When I want the shifting experience I swap with my son in law. He has a 2006 grey miata 5 speed . This car I have was a girly car back in the day . Hope this finds you and yours well ☮️❤️
The Miata has had a great track record of being the fun little go kart that likes to slide out the rear end for every generation, and we gotta keep it like that. If US regulations didn't change, it'd still have pop ups just for every car enthusiast to make it blink
I wasn’t crazy about the looks of the first Miatas but I’ll still concede that they nailed it. It always has been and always should be a drivers car. A car for people who want to enjoy A to B as opposed to just going A to B. This one especially looks terrific
@@First362 They brought the CRX back as the CRZ from 2011 to 2016, but the crx had several trims before. It had the base, si, and hf(high fuel economy). They basically brought the CRX back only as the hf this last time as a hybrid. They could have made a si trim with a k20, but they opted not to do so. I imagine it wouldn't be worth the sales and would take away from SI civic sales. It had abysmal sales in the US. PS. I own a 91' dx CRX. It's fun as hell to drive even with the 1.5l d15b2. Nothing beats a cheap stick honda for slow and fun.
It was the same with the GT86. Everyone said that it was slow compared to [Insert Generic Car Here]. But for those of us who have driven one properly, or who have modified one. They are brilliant.
For me it was the reason I didnt buy one. The 200 hp didnt feel like that. I was very dissappointed, because I like the looks. But my 122 hp diesel felt very similar to the 200 hp and that disappointed me
Cars should be compared on price point, nothing else. MX5's are between £28K-£35K. If you're getting a car with more tech, which is bigger, and offers more power, in that price range, then go for that, because you're getting more value for your money.
Modern people are so thick 😂 The Miata (mx-5 here in Europe) is simple, driver - not tech - focused...pure unadulterated fun....perfect for its purpose. It plugs a gap in the market that was created when a large number of small affordable European convertible sports cars ceased production, such as the Triumph Spitfire or Fiat 124 Spider. Modern consumers just don't get that, this little Mazda is spot-on, it took that formula into the 21st century and hasn't looked back ❤️ Never change to suit people's opinions, Jinba ittai! 👍
Maybe a valid solution for more power is to perhaps make an optional factory performance package with a turbo 4 cylinder with decent power, bigger brakes and tuned suspension, maybe a factory body kit, and bigger wheels to accommodate larger brakes. So we can have both ?
The 4th Generation was built keeping the original NA Generation in mind. Gram weight strategy in that ND. Taking out every last bit of weight. The result was my 2016 Club soft top weighs 2340 pounds.
The one thing the miata needs is a coupe version. Better aerodynamics, lower weight, better chassis rigidity, much safer in a crash, etc... Mazda clearly thought of this too as they actually made just under 200 of them in the late 90s... but why not more??? It should've always been one of the standard options
The only thing I would change is a lightweight hybrid turbocharger. NOT a huge power build, a Hybrid K03 or K04 and some weight reduction to keep the balance. There is nothing wrong with the current model to be clear, except for the heavy safety equipment requirements. Thats no fault of Mazda. If you want a bigger car, then you just dont get it. Something that has changed is how powerful all cars are for the era. The miata has to compete with the BRZ/86, so I think between 200-300hp is the target, but keep the base model as another trim level. Before you keep demanding power, try driving a balanced car. You will even go down in power to have that feeling. (From a higher HP car to a lower balanced car)
The IMSA mx-5 cup is one of my favorite racing series right now. The fact that theyre so small and dont rely on aero makes for some of the best racing.
I have an 89 people have had this opinion since the start and it's a hairdressers car. When you own one you don't give a shit anymore in the 8 years I've owned it I've heard it all.
Agreed, I'm glad that this is one of the only cheap jdm cars from the 90s that stayed cheap into the present and isn't in hell with every other jdm classic
I think that the appeal was customizability, with the idea that it was going to be sold in Japan and in an Era where street racing was starting If they wanted to make a Miata, they would just have to make a car that could be tuned up to easily fit more modern builds, but simply keep the "have fun" selling point
The Miata was the answer to cars like the MG MGB and Triumph TR6. People have to understand that lightweight... whatever power... is the formula of those cars. Besides, there's always modification to generate more power. I have a 1991 Miata with a Greddy Turbo Kit on it, probably twice the horsepower on the same lightweight car which delivers superb acceleration. My car is limited by the transmission now.
Please follow the heritage of the Miata. So many other models have fallen and turned into crossovers. The Miata needs to be kept as a 2 door small lightweight nimble roadster. >2800 pounds. 250/250 hp/tq max. 6 speed manual. DCT can be an option. DCT 6-speed only. I can prove that 6 gears is way more than enough for something with a max speed of 160. No CVT. No torque converters.
I dont understand the hate that this car gets. Its a perfect representation of Mazda ethos with zoom-zoom and simplicity. Im biased since it is my dream car and own a 2019 RF, but no one can deny its fun factor escpecially at the price its at. Power seems to be the only number people care for anymore and the enthusiasts today have gone towards stat-sheet clout and forgetting the experience a car gives to the driver. Power definitely has a place because a car that can shove your body through your seat is definitely an exhilirating experience, but its only one of many things you experience in driving. I will forever love this car and have never stopped smiling while whipping it around town. It has its negatives though that im learning through forums and ownership, some of which (the glass transmission) are continuous problems that I still cant wrap my head around why Mazda did it, especially when they had a perfectly good one on the NC. Or cheaping out on an A/C pipe that cracks at around 40k miles (mines cracked). And even the use of electric steering instead of hydraulic for the feel. But overall its a wonderful car that i wouldnt trade for anything (unless its a more expensive car so i can sell those for more miatas haha)
Strange, everybody I know that’s driven them, including myself since I have one currently, think they are all round the best miata pound for pound in practically all aspects. In fact I hardly ever hear this hate that people keep ranting about “people saying this and that” Where? No more than when people complained about the NB, and then the NC, and now this. Truth is, years down the line, people are gonna cherish these things, and after all the other cars I’ve had the pleasure to drive, this is the one that puts the biggest smile on my face, even after owning a couple other miatas, I don’t plan on changing cars unless super desperate measures at this point, I don’t want to part with it.
The MX-5/Miata is a pretty much “perfect” car. From the Original (I had a “British Racing Green” 1989 Japanese Import version) to the current model, it’s SUPPOSED to be small, lightweight, low power, relatively simple and FUN! It was built to replace cars like the MG B, Triumph Spitfire and Fiat Spider - small, low power, light weight, simple, fun cars - and has consistently been the best of its kind since 1989. They’re not as cheap as they used to be, RRP is around £30k but dealerships often have them for around £24k and you can haggle them down a little. The nearest thing you can get to an MX-5 in 2024 is probably a BMW 2 Series, and you’d be lucky to get one for less than £37k in a dealership! Beyond that, the next closest things are cars like the Alpine A110, Jaguar F Type and Porsche 718 Cayman/Boxster which are £50k-£70k depending on spec etc.
A car gets its reputation from how it was built from factory. I don't like the changes most companies make to their newer models because it changes the spirit of the car. E.g. The Impreza used to be very small in comparison to new models.
If they make it bigger, more powerful, and more complex, then it wouldn’t be a Miata anymore! Reminds me of how insane it is that Ford made an electric SUV and called it a Mustang. Insanity!
It's great, it took them 25 years to build an S2000, same weight, same power lol. I actually dig the new design and would love to LS swap one, so it can accompany my caged, dry sump LS3 S2000.
The ND has a tighter interior than the NC. Additionally, I preferred the dual exhaust on the NC. ND exterior is fantastic, but personally I think the NC is still better.
Asking to turn a Miata into a bigger vehicle is like asking Harley Davidson to turn their bikes into a midsize sedan. You miss the point of the vehicle entirely hahaha
I love the simplicity and size of the miata and dont want it to change but i do wish i fit in it better. Im 6'1" which isnt too crazy tall but i fit in the NC better than the ND. The RF was even worse and that made me sad because i genuinely wanted one.
All i want is more power, Toggleable TCS, ABS, an AC and a good paddle shift trans. I love technology, but i want car software to be idiot-proof in its simplicity. I want an interior with actual buttons so i can use my AC or radio without having to look at a screen. I don't need my car to be a smartphone and a VBOX, i don't need a GPS. I just need miata to go Zoom.
I don’t know about the leg room in the new model but I think that Mazda should make a sister car to the Miata for us tall folks. So far my only option is the Abarth (???), Honda S2k, and if you have a death wish the spicy Miata aka the Viper, but they don’t carry the same charm as the Miata. It doesn’t have to be a carbon copy of the Miata (except longer) just needs to have the vibe of it if that makes sense
To me, it looks a bit like a mini Toyota Supra, just as much fun, I'm sure. When I get past the problems in my life, I'd like to own an old, slammed Miata. Fully filled, deep dish alloy rims on the rear and flat, steel pepperpot rims on the front.
Just a little more power, maybe via hybrid, little less body roll, little more functional storage. The flyin Miata / Sarasota super sport v8 Mazda ($75k) only adds 500lb but add LS3 engine, steering, LSD, brakes.
It's a great car, not a lot of tech, cheap ass interior but lightweight, and just enough power to make it fun, just like the first model since 1990. The problem is when they want to charge you 35K - 40K. Yes, it may not sound crazily expensive, but it makes the car stay in the middle of a [Civic SI, GR86] and [Mustang GT, Civic Type R, WRX STI]. User picks are usually from the bottom or the top of the list. Sadly car brands don't give a fuck about story or emblematic models, and if sales are going down, the model will eventually disappear 😢
Nope, I've never owned a Miata but i fee you that you are correct. The Miata is built by drivers for driver for a reason . Dony change it . I used to feel the same about an F-150 (because of it own strengths) but now you can go to the lot and buy a $90,000 F-150, pretty much every manufacturer is doing this So yeah don't do that Miata... please.
The only thing that the new miata needs to change has to be the headlights. The pop ups need to come back. Besides, why do people want miata to be bigger? Like, if you want a big car, go buy a big car. It's that easy!
The people that don't like the Miata won't ever buy one, because they don't get why the Miata is like that.
Truth
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Low power and high agility yea but then you got things like the gr 86 or brz for about $400 difference at msrp and and about equal the price at 30k each used same year and all the one thing I see the only thing I see the Miata has over a used boxter cayman or a newly used 86 or brz would be it’s convertible. now don’t get me wrong I’m not saying I don’t like the Miata I’m just saying it’s illogical to me when you have better options specially when you’re thinking of buying a new Mx-5 when you have older more iconic 98 and older Mx-5 for 15k or less especially if you’re thinking of the modding scene. I’ve even found independent sellers that’s sell their Miata’s for 2-5k so a newer Mx-5 doesn’t make sense to me
@@mondragonmsaul308 People that buy a new Miata are people that want a cheap, reliable two-seater convertible little sporty rocket. And I bet you that the people that sell the old one, are in most cases getting a new one.
@@mondragonmsaul308 @mondragonmsaul308 As someone who has an NA and NB Miata, I get your point. However, the trouble with the GR86/FRS is the boxer engine. The miata has never needed improved oil baffling due to oil starvation while cornering. Unless you're pushing over 400hp, it's not needed. The GR86, however, will have a void warranty if the engine dies due to oil starvation, caused by a track day. This is despite the marketing about it being a track-ready vehicle. For this reason, the miata is more desirable than a GR86. I don't know if I would even autocross in a stock FRS/BRZ/GR86. True, this can be fixed with aftermarket parts. However, add the multi-piece head assembly, the weak head gaskets, the requirement to remove the cams to pull both heads, the hassle of a quad-cam on a 4cyl engine, AND the requirement to disconnect the pistons from the rods just to pull the engine apart. The comparison is a model of simplicity to an over complicated mess. I pulled the head on my NB with the turbo manifold and intake still attached. The camshafts were left in place as well. All the extra complexity on the boxer engine just to create a better center of gravity. The two are not even close in terms of upkeep. I see NA and NB miatas everywhere I turn. It is insanely rare to see a 90s or early 2000s WRX on the road today. That MSRP difference is just a bribe.
Cheers.
I 100% agree on that the miata/mx5 fomula should never change. Back in the 90's there were so many small sporty compact cars. All of them with exception to the miata, got fat, cramped with electronics and tech and lost what they were about. Lightweight and simple.
That same cycle happened in the 70s to 80s also. 🤦
Wouldn't exactly call it lightweight, you want to go lightweight with no tech and serious track pedigree you buy a Lotus Elise.
@@bzilla-d4i I think the Lotus lacks the affordability aspect 👍
@@PokeyCottons you can pick up a second hand one for round about the same price as the new MX-5, S1 might be cheaper.
@@bzilla-d4i I can pick a second hand miata for half the price of the second hand elise. They don't even compete with each other.
I had an MX5 for 2 years. It is the only car I have driven that made me smile everytime I drove.
It's all about the sph. Smiles per Hour.
*Miata life!!*
Do you have experience with actual fast cars? (Just curious)
@@tufan.t.t3816"Yeah, all my cars can go the maximum speed limit."
@@user-bw4jm1bv1i lol
People need to stop bullying our little brother the Mazda Miata. He’s a little guy but he’s a good guy and people need to treat him better.
roughly a week or so ago I saw a video where they interviewed the engineer who designed the miata. In his own words: The miata was never meant to go fast or be a technological masterpiece. I designed this car so it would be fun to drive.
Like the old Porsche 911s, nothing extreme apart from the extremely raw feel of the drive
this is why ur a therapist w use of a quote and giving the creator some hype
Link the interview
It’s a donut media video on there second channel real mechanic stuff
lol i was watching it now
I am 66 years old now . I own a 1993 automatic Miata because my legs are too long to shift. They hit the steering wheel . I just rescued a 1991 Miata last week that was sitting under an oak tree for five years. It’s a mess but is worth saving, no rust thankfully ! Will turn over but will not fire . For 500 dollars I can’t go wrong . Both are white automatics, all original, including wheels . I told my daughter I have a new set of twins.😂 thanks for sharing this video with us out here in south east Alabama USA ☮️❤️
Well done...thank you for rescuing a classic...enjoy the twins!
@@TylerDurden-oy2hm thanks for the reply . I also have a 1974 MG midget that is fun to drive but not nearly as fun as the Miata . Hope all is well with your family and friends ☮️❤️
Learn to drive manual, at 66 it will give you a new lease on life lol. I'm 6'4 an am completely fine driving a manual Miata, whereas when I drove an auto it didn't feel sporty at all. with the sluggish transmission and the amount of power that's lost through it.
@@grannysgushinggash thanks for the reply . I guess I’m just getting lazy in my old age !😂. When I want the shifting experience I swap with my son in law. He has a 2006 grey miata 5 speed . This car I have was a girly car back in the day . Hope this finds you and yours well ☮️❤️
how tall are you?
The Miata has had a great track record of being the fun little go kart that likes to slide out the rear end for every generation, and we gotta keep it like that. If US regulations didn't change, it'd still have pop ups just for every car enthusiast to make it blink
they can still make headlight that close they just have to be pedestrian friendly.
@@GrzegorzDurda Nobody should care about pedestrians. If they don't want to get hit, don't walk where cars are.
@@Orxbane That's what i said when took the pop headlights away. 100% agreed. We all lose due to morons.
@@Orxbaneyou cannot be this stupid. People live around innumerable cars at every given moment.
@@Orxbanenevermind, Pens fan. Explains it all.
Nah, we love small cars. I loooove the ND Miata
I love the new miata/MX-5 its stayed true to it's roots
I wasn’t crazy about the looks of the first Miatas but I’ll still concede that they nailed it. It always has been and always should be a drivers car. A car for people who want to enjoy A to B as opposed to just going A to B. This one especially looks terrific
Its why i love my Civics. I use the same description he used to describe the Miatas when i describe my Civics
What happened to the CRX? We need that car back from Honda as long as they keep it clean and simple.
@@First362 I couldn't agree more!
@@First362 They brought the CRX back as the CRZ from 2011 to 2016, but the crx had several trims before. It had the base, si, and hf(high fuel economy). They basically brought the CRX back only as the hf this last time as a hybrid. They could have made a si trim with a k20, but they opted not to do so. I imagine it wouldn't be worth the sales and would take away from SI civic sales. It had abysmal sales in the US.
PS. I own a 91' dx CRX. It's fun as hell to drive even with the 1.5l d15b2. Nothing beats a cheap stick honda for slow and fun.
"The Miata should be bigger and more powerful!"
"It's a Miata."
They look spectacular with a bit of wheel poke.
It's fun , fast , cheap and lightweight. What more could you possibly want from a miata. There is a reason it's always the answer
It’s not cheap at all…
@@Normal_cat5150maybe you are the broke one. Is cheap
@@Hazzard200008 the new ND is 40 grand man in comparison the 124 spider is around 21k
@@Hazzard200008 and the spider comes with a lsd and a turbski
@@Normal_cat5150 dude, Mx5 is 31k new and Fiat 124 was discontinued since 2019.
foodies have comfort food, car enthusiasts have miatas
It was the same with the GT86. Everyone said that it was slow compared to [Insert Generic Car Here]. But for those of us who have driven one properly, or who have modified one. They are brilliant.
Yup. Just did a whole track day in an 86 with full track prep, cage, on slicks. I was blown away. I passed a Shelby mustang on slicks.
For me it was the reason I didnt buy one. The 200 hp didnt feel like that. I was very dissappointed, because I like the looks. But my 122 hp diesel felt very similar to the 200 hp and that disappointed me
Cars should be compared on price point, nothing else. MX5's are between £28K-£35K. If you're getting a car with more tech, which is bigger, and offers more power, in that price range, then go for that, because you're getting more value for your money.
Modern people are so thick 😂 The Miata (mx-5 here in Europe) is simple, driver - not tech - focused...pure unadulterated fun....perfect for its purpose. It plugs a gap in the market that was created when a large number of small affordable European convertible sports cars ceased production, such as the Triumph Spitfire or Fiat 124 Spider. Modern consumers just don't get that, this little Mazda is spot-on, it took that formula into the 21st century and hasn't looked back ❤️ Never change to suit people's opinions, Jinba ittai! 👍
Imagine bringing the pop up headlights back for a future model. Like a Nostalgia Model, i would buy that
looks beautiful, reminds me of the old fairlady Z's backend
Maybe a valid solution for more power is to perhaps make an optional factory performance package with a turbo 4 cylinder with decent power, bigger brakes and tuned suspension, maybe a factory body kit, and bigger wheels to accommodate larger brakes.
So we can have both ?
The 4th Generation was built keeping the original NA Generation in mind. Gram weight strategy in that ND. Taking out every last bit of weight. The result was my 2016 Club soft top weighs 2340 pounds.
They tried this with the NC and we all complained so they backed off a bit for tbe ND, and personally, I'm glad.
Hell no never change the miata i love those cars with everything i got
Only ppl who have driven a Miata will understand. It doesn't matter which generation neither...
C O R R E C T !
The one thing the miata needs is a coupe version. Better aerodynamics, lower weight, better chassis rigidity, much safer in a crash, etc...
Mazda clearly thought of this too as they actually made just under 200 of them in the late 90s... but why not more??? It should've always been one of the standard options
Agreed but tech and interior should be modernized like the infotainment and the dash
I thought it was gonna be because no flip up headlights
As long as it's still a drop top. It should of course be a small mgb type.
The only thing I would change is a lightweight hybrid turbocharger. NOT a huge power build, a Hybrid K03 or K04 and some weight reduction to keep the balance.
There is nothing wrong with the current model to be clear, except for the heavy safety equipment requirements. Thats no fault of Mazda. If you want a bigger car, then you just dont get it.
Something that has changed is how powerful all cars are for the era. The miata has to compete with the BRZ/86, so I think between 200-300hp is the target, but keep the base model as another trim level.
Before you keep demanding power, try driving a balanced car. You will even go down in power to have that feeling. (From a higher HP car to a lower balanced car)
The IMSA mx-5 cup is one of my favorite racing series right now. The fact that theyre so small and dont rely on aero makes for some of the best racing.
I have an 89 people have had this opinion since the start and it's a hairdressers car. When you own one you don't give a shit anymore in the 8 years I've owned it I've heard it all.
The only thing I still don't understand is make a strict hardtop variant. Convertibles add weight.
You are 100% right!
I don't think a little more power would ruin the formula, but small size and light weight certainly are key attributes.
Agreed, I'm glad that this is one of the only cheap jdm cars from the 90s that stayed cheap into the present and isn't in hell with every other jdm classic
I think that the appeal was customizability, with the idea that it was going to be sold in Japan and in an Era where street racing was starting
If they wanted to make a Miata, they would just have to make a car that could be tuned up to easily fit more modern builds, but simply keep the "have fun" selling point
When you said "afFORDable", I laughed a little.
I also dislike the new miata, not for any of those stupid reasons obv. But i will simply not accept a miata without pop up headlights
The Miata was the answer to cars like the MG MGB and Triumph TR6. People have to understand that lightweight... whatever power... is the formula of those cars. Besides, there's always modification to generate more power. I have a 1991 Miata with a Greddy Turbo Kit on it, probably twice the horsepower on the same lightweight car which delivers superb acceleration. My car is limited by the transmission now.
I'm fairly certain people who don't like Miatas don't understand what Roadsters are. They probably hate the Opel Speedster as well.
Please follow the heritage of the Miata. So many other models have fallen and turned into crossovers. The Miata needs to be kept as a 2 door small lightweight nimble roadster. >2800 pounds. 250/250 hp/tq max. 6 speed manual. DCT can be an option. DCT 6-speed only. I can prove that 6 gears is way more than enough for something with a max speed of 160. No CVT. No torque converters.
Needs flip up head lights other than that it's perfect
I dont understand the hate that this car gets. Its a perfect representation of Mazda ethos with zoom-zoom and simplicity. Im biased since it is my dream car and own a 2019 RF, but no one can deny its fun factor escpecially at the price its at.
Power seems to be the only number people care for anymore and the enthusiasts today have gone towards stat-sheet clout and forgetting the experience a car gives to the driver. Power definitely has a place because a car that can shove your body through your seat is definitely an exhilirating experience, but its only one of many things you experience in driving.
I will forever love this car and have never stopped smiling while whipping it around town.
It has its negatives though that im learning through forums and ownership, some of which (the glass transmission) are continuous problems that I still cant wrap my head around why Mazda did it, especially when they had a perfectly good one on the NC. Or cheaping out on an A/C pipe that cracks at around 40k miles (mines cracked). And even the use of electric steering instead of hydraulic for the feel. But overall its a wonderful car that i wouldnt trade for anything (unless its a more expensive car so i can sell those for more miatas haha)
Strange, everybody I know that’s driven them, including myself since I have one currently, think they are all round the best miata pound for pound in practically all aspects.
In fact I hardly ever hear this hate that people keep ranting about “people saying this and that”
Where? No more than when people complained about the NB, and then the NC, and now this.
Truth is, years down the line, people are gonna cherish these things, and after all the other cars I’ve had the pleasure to drive, this is the one that puts the biggest smile on my face, even after owning a couple other miatas, I don’t plan on changing cars unless super desperate measures at this point, I don’t want to part with it.
The MX-5/Miata is a pretty much “perfect” car. From the Original (I had a “British Racing Green” 1989 Japanese Import version) to the current model, it’s SUPPOSED to be small, lightweight, low power, relatively simple and FUN!
It was built to replace cars like the MG B, Triumph Spitfire and Fiat Spider - small, low power, light weight, simple, fun cars - and has consistently been the best of its kind since 1989.
They’re not as cheap as they used to be, RRP is around £30k but dealerships often have them for around £24k and you can haggle them down a little.
The nearest thing you can get to an MX-5 in 2024 is probably a BMW 2 Series, and you’d be lucky to get one for less than £37k in a dealership! Beyond that, the next closest things are cars like the Alpine A110, Jaguar F Type and Porsche 718 Cayman/Boxster which are £50k-£70k depending on spec etc.
I saw two back to back and it made my day
Keep it the way it is but just make bigger people fit into them.
A car gets its reputation from how it was built from factory. I don't like the changes most companies make to their newer models because it changes the spirit of the car. E.g. The Impreza used to be very small in comparison to new models.
If they make it bigger, more powerful, and more complex, then it wouldn’t be a Miata anymore! Reminds me of how insane it is that Ford made an electric SUV and called it a Mustang. Insanity!
The "I hate oranges because they're not apples crowd."
I am 6 2, bought a 2023 miata in march, its my first car, i love it
Still love my 1991 NA shitbox. Dont even want to swap it for a modern version.
I personally think that the only change that the new miata needs is to revert back to pop up headlights
It's great, it took them 25 years to build an S2000, same weight, same power lol.
I actually dig the new design and would love to LS swap one, so it can accompany my caged, dry sump LS3 S2000.
Don't fix something that isn't broke! The Miata formula is already amazing. Keep it this way.
if they would just put a turbo or supercharger on them as an option it would sell better then almost any other 2 door sports car on the market
The ND has a tighter interior than the NC. Additionally, I preferred the dual exhaust on the NC. ND exterior is fantastic, but personally I think the NC is still better.
This seems exactly like the kinda of man I would expect to do a video on Miatas LMFAO
Just add the pop-up headlights with a smile mouth and everyone will love it again.
People that think they're slow can't drive!!
You can't change my mind on that.
Asking to turn a Miata into a bigger vehicle is like asking Harley Davidson to turn their bikes into a midsize sedan.
You miss the point of the vehicle entirely hahaha
In search for gold, we'll lose the diamond
The reason why I don't like the current Miata is because it looks very angry and Miata are supposed to look fun and happy
Exactly. If customers want change then that’ll completely become another model not miata
The car looks exactly like the guy talking about this video 😂
I think they should make a higher spec in case if you want more goodies
The one thing that has me hesitant to by an ND is thr fact it looks so angry lmao
I do think they should still offer a turbo model but other than that, leave it alone.
This is the Lotus Elan formula transferred to Mazda application.
I love the simplicity and size of the miata and dont want it to change but i do wish i fit in it better. Im 6'1" which isnt too crazy tall but i fit in the NC better than the ND. The RF was even worse and that made me sad because i genuinely wanted one.
I love the new Miata. I also love the new 400z, and would love to see a new S2000
'Affordible'
Bro you can get a decent RX-7 FD for the price of modern Miata
There's a reason why people love old Miatas.
All i want is more power, Toggleable TCS, ABS, an AC and a good paddle shift trans.
I love technology, but i want car software to be idiot-proof in its simplicity. I want an interior with actual buttons so i can use my AC or radio without having to look at a screen.
I don't need my car to be a smartphone and a VBOX, i don't need a GPS. I just need miata to go Zoom.
I love everything about the Current Miata … but just one lil thing … 300 hp and 289 torque
I have two a 1990 first gen and a 2000 2nd gen. Best fun and more reliable than every car else.
I don’t know about the leg room in the new model but I think that Mazda should make a sister car to the Miata for us tall folks. So far my only option is the Abarth (???), Honda S2k, and if you have a death wish the spicy Miata aka the Viper, but they don’t carry the same charm as the Miata. It doesn’t have to be a carbon copy of the Miata (except longer) just needs to have the vibe of it if that makes sense
Mazda dropped the ball when they stopped producing a flagship sports car like the RX7. The Miata just doesn’t fill its shoes.
I wish I could fit comfortably in one
To me, it looks a bit like a mini Toyota Supra, just as much fun, I'm sure. When I get past the problems in my life, I'd like to own an old, slammed Miata. Fully filled, deep dish alloy rims on the rear and flat, steel pepperpot rims on the front.
Miata owners going gear 0.5 to climb up a 30° hill 😂
The only thing i miss in a miata are some turbos...
changing the formula would anger "Old Fart Gamer"-san.
Want more power. Just do a swap. Simple. Don't mess with the general build of the miata.
I don’t have a problem with Miata’s but if I got one it’s being tuned not long after though 😂
Just a little more power, maybe via hybrid, little less body roll, little more functional storage.
The flyin Miata / Sarasota super sport v8 Mazda ($75k) only adds 500lb but add LS3 engine, steering, LSD, brakes.
It's a great car, not a lot of tech, cheap ass interior but lightweight, and just enough power to make it fun, just like the first model since 1990. The problem is when they want to charge you 35K - 40K. Yes, it may not sound crazily expensive, but it makes the car stay in the middle of a [Civic SI, GR86] and [Mustang GT, Civic Type R, WRX STI]. User picks are usually from the bottom or the top of the list. Sadly car brands don't give a fuck about story or emblematic models, and if sales are going down, the model will eventually disappear 😢
The automatic folding roof one is terrible in my opinion but the other trims are alright by me. They check the boxes.
Nope, I've never owned a Miata but i fee you that you are correct. The Miata is built by drivers for driver for a reason . Dony change it . I used to feel the same about an F-150 (because of it own strengths) but now you can go to the lot and buy a $90,000 F-150, pretty much every manufacturer is doing this So yeah don't do that Miata... please.
If you want bigger get something like a mazda 3 Turbo if you still want a mazda.
It just needs more power. I’d bet that even just the existence of a 300hp Miata would drive up the sales of a typical one.
miatas fine just give it more power like everything else
I mean if Honda can make a 2L 240hp 9k rpm engine 25 years ago. Mazda should be able to get something close to that out of their 2L in 2024.
The only thing i want is pop-Up head lights.
Add a trim with a turbo! I'd get one
bro sound like linus tech tips
The only thing that the new miata needs to change has to be the headlights. The pop ups need to come back.
Besides, why do people want miata to be bigger? Like, if you want a big car, go buy a big car. It's that easy!
Instead of complaining about the Miata, complain about getting the RX back
More technology and more power = more expensive. -> thats a nono
The Subaru BRZ/ Toyota gr86 is a good option if you want something a little bigger with more power and tech.