"If they offer you a big bonus, it's because something sucks" lol Update 3 years later: went undesignated seaman on cvn , did a deployment and struck Gunnersmate. Now on a DDG. Hit me up for advice
Will _ I’m looking at CTN too but I fucked up my credit while I was in college (first credit card at 18. Don’t do it to yourself) and I hear they consider financial history when getting security clearances.
What is positive about painting 16 hours a day out at sea in a very hot engine room. I really wanted to succeed, but living like that, if you can call it living, seemed like a punishment, but for what? I felt betrayed! Things may have improved since 1976?
Yes, all the positivity when I'm painting all day, and being a professional janitor when I'm watching some dude get the same pay for taking a couple pictures. Aye aye
I didn't know anything about the navy when I joined in 2001 I got assigned ak aviation storekeeper and it wasn't too bad I actually got assigned shore duty in Oceana VA . Too be honest I really didn't know the navy had jets lol
I got a 97 on my ASVAB back in 1998 when they were offering $60,000 signing bonus for nukes. I said hell yes! And when I took my physical at fort dix they said hell no! And disqualified me for a torn ACL. Ended up making commercial fishing a career for a couple decades. Now I'm a machinist making turbine parts for the Abrams and a bunch of other military stuff. My parents were disappointed. (Both were retired with 20+ years in the Navy.) I think I dodged a bullet though. Life's been pretty groovy.
I think it's hilarious I was dead set on joining as an AO & the guy who does your contract at MEPS had a heart to heart with me for 15 minutes to try to change my mind & Now im a Corpsman :)
Lexi Lovett good thing I originally signed up to be a seabee but wanted to leave early signed contract to be an SO WORSE idea I ever made at 18 to say the least you made a good choice f18 squadron AO
20 year CS here, I always said "No air support without ground support." CS's are your real ground support, people don't fly on empty stomachs. HT belongs on this list if for nothing more than having to unclog toilets and septic systems. I've seen mess decks covered in turds, no thanks.
@@carlat4187 hi, it depends on your command and chain of command, some days are, some days aren’t, make sure you qualify submarines and galley watch captain and it will be a bit easier.
I considered the Navy, one of the recruiters was AO and he was pushing it, I was like "Nah, I don't see myself loading bombs on planes." Joined the Air Force on an open contract (silly me) and what job did I get? Aircraft Armament. Loding bombs on planes. In North Dakota. In the Winter. FML.
Submarine Nuke here. Gonna try to keep this unbiased, because being a nuke is a pretty cool job sometimes and I don't want to dissuade anybody from applying if it's what they want to do. Nukes make the most money out of all the rates on a submarine by far. Right now, I'm making over $600 a month in specialty pay just being a sub nuke, and that's on top of base pay and BAH. We also make rank the fastest. I put on First Class before my 5 year point. Some nuke rates (Nuke ETs and Engineering Laboratory Technicians) make up to $100,000 on their first reenlistment (I say the first; it drops off after that). The drawback is that nukes spend more time at work than any other rate. We're the first to show up for a workday, and the last to leave most of the time. Our equipment is the most complicated and requires the most routine maintenance. It depends on your CO, but we often get the least recognition for all the hours spent at work in terms of awards as well. I could count on both hands the number of times a nuke has gotten a NAM mid-tour in the time I've been on the boat. The cone gets NAMs handed out to them for going "above and beyond," but nukes have to go a mile past "above and beyond" to even get their name in the hat. That's not to say it isn't cool sometimes. I can't really get into why, but on a boat, deployment is a breeze for a nuke compared to the cone. Nukes also get a lot of command collateral duties like CCC, CFL, CFS, DAPA, etc. because we are often so good at managing big programs. These collaterals in themselves can get you recognition, and they're rewarding in their own right. And I think by far the biggest draw of the nuke community on submarines is the people. The people I've met in Engineering on the boat are going to be my best friends for life. Pretty much everybody on the boat has that same mindset. Sometimes coners can be dumb about some stuff, but at the end of a miserable day, I wouldn't choose to be miserable with anybody else other than these tough sons of bitches.
Trace Mychal We never got recognized for anything. We were able to fix a SW pump at sea and save the ship from going into port and we get a command coin. A cook successfully identified the difference between flour and sugar and got an Admiral's letter.
Aaron Hart To be totally fair, Admiral’s letters aren’t good for a whole lot outside of wiping your ass with them. I’ve had similar experiences but I’d take a command coin any day.
I'm a DEPed nuke. I go to basic in November. I was kinda bummed when nuke made this list but I got over it quick lol. I love math and science and I think I'll really enjoy school and my job. I'm also gonna be on a sub, I'm looking forward to the smaller tight knit group
This is soo true! I went to nuke school only to fail out in the last week of Power School... It was literally hell on earth, and the nukes on my submarine were the most depressed and biggest functioning alcoholics I've ever met in my life...
Why does everyone have such a problem with power school? I had absolutely no issues with it and the only time I actually failed at anything was my final oral board. Literally tripping at the finish line.
I was a BM2 back in the 80's. You had respect as a BM! No other rate could function without us. Traditional oldest Navy rate. A serious sailor would do well in this rate, because of the varied duties to perform.
I’m a NUKE and yes it is pretty hard. Hours suck, work is very political. Especially for me since I work as an ELT. You come in super early to start up prior to deployment and go home last if you are part of the shutdown detail. Multiply the hard factor by I guess 10 if you are submarines. And yes, I am a NUKE SUB. However, since I am qualified EWS, QAI, EDPO, LELT, Master Training Specialist, I am more marketable in the civilian market. It is pretty hard. In the end, the juice is worth the squeeze.
I'm a nuke and you're not wrong about the hours lmao. I'm responsible for verifying radiation levels in the plant, and theyre virtually zero. One of the heaviest single components on the ship is the radiation shielding
Danny Bee but, there cans be holds where you’re waiting for class to start, or medical issues, or waiting on clearances that can easily keep you at the school for over two years.
It's true Nuclear Power requires the highest degree of "grey matter" and you will work your ass off. However, you will make rank faster than anyone else in the Navy and you will make more money than anyone else in the Navy (that's enlisted). My son in law asked me what was best or him as he considered joining; I asked how is your Math? he said very good, so I took him to recruiter and demanded special test to check his quals and he passed. He went from Seaman(E3) to Commander(O5) with 20 years in the Nuclear Field.
@@Me-eb3wv He was a submariner and ended as an XO on a Trident Sub and then CO on a submarine related surface ship, so he was not stuck on a reactor the whole time. He also earned a BS Electrical Engineering , MS Physical Oceanography, and MS Strategic Studies all paid for by the USN.
CS Is one of the most thankless jobs in the Navy but one of the most important. Everybody eats. Nukes make every list and they deserve respect. My dad was a BM and he always said that the Navy could not run without them.
Nuke life sucks, but it's better to laugh now and cry later. Lot's of my close friends have left the nuke community due to academic failure, but mostly to depression and mental illness. Just talk to someone before you make a big decision, I'm absolutely positive they care about you
I made it a career. A couple of times I went non-nuke on shore and once on a tender. I met a lot of nuke waste out there and I was sad to learn that those guys often went on to a much better life than I did. Because they were such high quality recruits the rest of the Navy was glad to have them. Several of the ones I knew that made it a career in the regular Navy retired as at least E-8's, about half went officer and retired Lcdr. or Cdr.
I was an AO for 9 years and when you said AO I was like ok it sucks because you get knee problems down the line, there’s not really big civilian transitions or even if you’re squadron you’re on deck all day. Y’all where just like “Being an AO sucks because they’re loud.” 😂
I qualified for PR BM AO ABH ABF ABE But you don't recommend me those rates right except pr. I scored lower in my second attempt and now with the new policy I can't retest only if I would have scored higher in my second exam. I'm banned from retaking the exam until 3 years from now, I could only get in with those rates, have to choose 5, but there no good right except pr and I can't go with one rate in meps have to choose 5.
I was an I level AT. That means I used big computers to fix aviation electronics. It was a sweet job sometimes because our shops always had to be cool. When we were in the Persian Gulf in the summer, I would be wearing a jacket. The coolest (literally) part of my job was when I went to lunch. The flight deck guys would be greasy, sweaty, and miserable, but I would go to the galley wearing my jacket and fogged-over glasses. They gave me the dirtiest looks. It was great!
Your right about the undesignated SN rate in the deck department,But I would argue that once you make BM3 it's one of the best rates in the navy. I got out as a BM2 and would do it all over in a heartbeat.
And for you greenhorn humps getting ready to report to your first command beware the consequences for getting caught skating, they can be sever that is all...
The nuclear reactors are actually very safe when it comes to radiation for Nukes. A day out in the sun does expose you to more radiation. The radiation doesn’t leak out of the reactor at least it shouldn’t unless someone screwed up.
I was an HT in the 1970s, we where called turd chasers then, but you learn skills, for example, our toilet clogged at home, my wife said what are you going to do with the fire extinguisher? Whatcha and learn I said lol! And AOs haven't changed much either!
As a former HT the shitty part of our job is the ... well shit!! But we welding is the best. Also as a Navy Diver now... no such thing as a scuba diver welder... don’t exist in the the Navy. We navy divers don’t even really weld. We cut a lot but most welding is contracted out.
As a Nuke, you gotta know how the ship propels through the water, how electricity is powered, what to do if something breaks. IT IS A LOT of information you gotta know. Not many people can attain all this information. But it's just like any other job. If you work your ass off, it pays off. And yes, jt you actually are exposed to more radiation on the flight deck. But you have to go through the program to even understand why.
You forgot Machinist Mate. It's a Boatswain's Mate painting down in that HOT hole or engine room! It's so sad; you went to "A" school at GLNTC then you may have to paint for 16 hours a day out at sea depending on which "watch" you have. In the port you work 8 hours a day.
With 'Nuc life' you hit it right on the head! Actually, you do get more radiation working on the flight deck in the sun than you do working next to the reactor. The reason for this is that there are many layers of shielding between the nuc and the reactor while there is no shielding (other than the Van Allen belts and the atmosphere) between the airedale and the sun, which is just one huge radiation factory. Hope this helps.
I served during the Regan years. I joined to learn the machinist trade. Did my time, learned everything I could and was very successful as a machinist in the civilian world. You get out what you put in. I saw too many guys who joined in order to have a 4 year vacation. What a waste of time.
about to take my asvab, been wanting to join for like 3 months but been brushing up on certain things in "ASVAB For Dummies." Your channel helps ease my doubts, so appreciate it my boi!
Ah fuck me, 94 on the asvab and I ship out in two months for basic, en route to be a Nuke. My brother is an EM so I think I know what I’m getting myself into but damn I just hope I don’t do more than one or two deployments. I just wanna go work at a university in nuclear development or commercially for the same thing. I covet my sleep I’m so screwed
I was an AO from 2008 to 2013. I loved our family atmosphere, but I had a shitty experience. I was in VFA-41 and we did 3 deployments in 3 years. 1 on the Nimitz and 2 and the Stennis. It was love/hate lol. We worked VERY hard and partied even harder. I had a high ASVAB, but chose AO because it had a sign-on bonus and it sounded cool. IYAOYAS
My dad was given the option after OCS (I’m not positive but probably OCS) to go become a pilot but decided to go to nuke school (because he’s insane). Then instead of being a nuke on a carrier he went and was a nuke on a sub. I never heard a word of complaint out of him besides the fact that he said the humming of the engines fucked up his hearing permanently.
Slick Rick being annoying is etched in your brain after a-school. One of the recruiters at my district is an AO, and I shit you not... being annoying has never left his system.
When you go to a school, you will literally be screaming your ass off about how absolutely amazing AO is. It’s cockiness engraved into your soul lol. It’s up to you to keep it or leave it. Imma be one to leave it lol. Even though I’ll still probably be labeled annoying and a cocky dick lmao
Former 8.5-year nuke here....can confirm that it is the worst lol. It has 100% been proved that people on the flight deck get more radiation exposure from the sun than we do from the reactor. The reason we get "radiation tags" (TLD's) and people on the flight deck don't is because we have to monitor our exposure from working in the plants. We have limits we have to abide by and if we get too much then we get can get pulled from being exposed anymore. Now the main thing that you need to understand is the extremely low levels of radiation exposure working in a nuclear power plant. That is why even the small amount people receive on the flight deck is still more than what we receive working in the plants.
I was an MM. In my time, BT would have been right up there. It was 147 degrees on the Fire Room Upper Level when I was fixing the dehydrators. Underway watches in the Engineroom were bad with 6 hours on and 6 hours off, with a full workday. Your sleep time was either 1745 - 2345, or 2345- 0545. HT's were called Turd Chasers.
Was an ET and I agree with this whole list. Recently got out, and going to school, and for one of my classes Navy recruiters gave a presentation and were trying to get people to go Nuke. Man was it hard to bite my tongue, i feel for the nukes, as well as every other rate on this list.
Wow ... I scrolled, and scrolled and scrolled some more to get to the bottom of the comments ... and when that didn't work, I went back to the top ... I graduated from S3-G in West Milton, NY in early 71. Thanks for including us nukes ... and thanks for keeping us up to date on Navy life, bro ...
😂😂😂😂 you left nukes for last! My husband is an ELT. We are literally counting down the days until he gets out of the navy! Experiencing it from the wife side of things (bootcamp, a school, power school, prototype, life on a carrier), it's rough. When you get to hear from them on underways or deployment (which you don't very often, maybe every week or two) they are often sleep deprived, maybe getting 6 hours or less of sleep a night, haven't seen the sun in days, and are currently trying to decide if they would rather hang up the phone with you and sleep or eat. They start fast-cruising a few days before the rest of the ship start. And on the carrier my husband is on, most of the time they are on 3 duty sections. If they are lucky they can stretch it to 5. But the job has its upsides for when he gets out! That's what we and most other nuke families look foward to. Thank you for your video! Definitely made me laugh! :) also thank you for your service!
My whole family are in the forces! It's nice to see youtubers talking about that life! Respect to you guys and love from London! 🇬🇧 you're a sweetheart!
I’m a nuke and I can agree with how shitty the life is. However my civilian life is amazing. I make close to half a mil just with my certifications and schooling through the navy
1. AO 2. HT 3. CS not a combat specialist 4. BM/undez sn 5. Nuke I guess but I would’ve put almost anything in air but it’s not bad but I don’t know anything about nukes. The yns could possibly be one But everything is 50/50
I was a single term Nuc, my lifetime exposure from Navy reactors was 46 mRem, the average person gets 100 Rem a year from the sun a year, since a lot of us Nucs are Bubbleheads, theoretically their total exposure from all sources is what the get from the reactor. An Airdale, who works their days on a flight deck would surpass my exposure in about 4 hours of work outside. This is because the Reactors are very well shielded for all types of radiation
81-87 Back when pollywogs became REAL shellbacks. Went in as a Radioman, hated it, switched over to Navy Diver and got out as a second class diver. 60% of long term divers get disability because of brain injuries. Did lots of TAD in the South Pacific & loved being in a small detachment with very little military bs.
I was an AO but not the typical BB stacker kind. I worked AIMD. I was an AO2 and never once worked flight deck. I can tell you that AO2 are a tight nit group. Pilots generally love the AOs because they love their weapons systems and the AOs take care of all that. Many a time we'd run into a group of our pilots and they'd want to hang with us. With all that being said,AOs do work hard. When I was in,74 to 79, we loaded any nonsmart weapon upto 1000lbs, by hand. Any type of weapon that plane (A7E in my case) was loaded by AOs. The M1A1 20MM gun, missiles, rockets, and bombs were handled, loaded, fuzed and maintained by the Ordies. It's also an unforgiving job. If you screw up and don't check your work serious damage, injuries and deaths can happen and have. Here's how I became an AO. I chose the Navy for 3 reasons . I had 4 brothers that all joined the army. I wanted to be different. I called the Coast Guard first, they never called back. No service travels as much as the Navy. One deployment can take you to 5 or 6 different counties. I wanted the west coast Navy. Europe has never interested me. Sea sickness is not my friend. To avoid it, I needed large ship. Nothing is bigger than an aircraft carrier except another carrier. I've always liked airplanes but not the Air Force. The recruiter set me up with all that. He of course needed AOs because of Nam. It was winding down and done before I reported to my squadron. He also made AOs sound way cooler than they were. I took early advancement in A school and came out an AO3. In December a year or so later, I made AO2. I had also been to AIMD school so by the time we deployed, I was an E5 and never had to work flight deck. Sadly, I had the gift of passing off my squadron chain of command. It was never anything bad and never intentionally or maliciously planned on my part but crap happened. Part of wanted to re-enlist and the command tried to get me to re-up but their methods were heavy handed. I felt bullied so I went home. I have never responded well to bullies . I'm very stubborn and resourceful if need be. Overall my Naval experience was good. I worked with some pretty good people. I gained a lot of confidence and self respect. I learned a great deal. I traveled half way around the world twice and met all kinds of people from all kinds of cultures. Ate things that I've never heard of and loved most of it. Being stationed at Naval Air Station, there wasa flying club to join. I managed to solo 3 times before I quit flying. The Navy is what you make it. This is true of any service or job. There are all kinds of opportunities and activities to be had if you take the time to find them. I volunteered for every school I could weasel my way into. That got me off the flight deck and may have saved my life.
Damn, I was hoping that nuke wasn't going to be on here. Still have to go through boot camp and the intense schooling but i'm still looking forward to it thanks for making these videos Jt!
Former HT 2009-2013 on a Destroyer DDG 79. HT2 (SW) Zavala came in as a E1 left as a E5. As long as you are proud of your Job then nothing else matters. You build thick skin and can shoot the shit pretty good being an HT lol. Talk about skills in the civilian world. I became a maintenance technician for a prison. $18hr back in 2013. Then a Electrician/welder helper in construction $24hr. I told them I had welding experience. All I had to do was operate a lift and keep the welding leads in good order, and now am currently a Maintenance Technican working for Microsoft making $28HR, and when I work OT it's $42HR. I chose my Rate and my fate ain't no shame in my game. I'm proud to have served and would recommend HT to anyone. Who doesn't like to deal with people and likes to build stuff.
I actually chose HT as my rate recently and every video I watch on them say that you almost never do any welding outside of A school. Is this a misconception or is there truth to it?
ABH should have hit the list. Yellow shirt isn't bad but ABH Blue Shirt ..... ohhhh, It sucked. The only thing that got me through was qualifying for everything; I was a swimmer, safety, AW (eventually), I volunteered for all of it. The job itself was horrible, in my opinion.
ABH should have hit the list. Yellow shirt isn't bad but ABH Blue Shirt ..... ohhhh, It sucked. The only thing that got me through was qualifying for everything; I was a swimmer, safety, AW (eventually), I volunteered for all of it. The job itself was horrible, in my opinion.
Variety Vlog by Thomas SnoWolf as an LSE I'm sure you know i was up on the Flight Deck around all the Shirts (Blue/yellow/green/white/red/purple) and yeah the Flight Deck is a awesome crazy experience !
Just caught up to this video. Don’t always agree with what you say but I gotta say you were on point on your Nuke comments. Brutal schooling and life. It takes a certain type of person to be able to handle the constant stress. But from another standpoint the experience you gain is highly respected when you get out. I am a retired Nuke and make comfortable six figures as do almost all of my ex Nuke friends. I had 9 job offers when I got out and I wouldn’t even consider it if it was less than six figure salary. And, as others have commented, you certainly received more radiation up top than we did.
@@unfortunate7803 Well nukes spend 2 years with some of the smartest people the navy has to offer. Once they get into the fleet and deal with other rates it’s kind of like a culture difference.
I was undes for three years before picking up Corpsman. I’ve done every collateral duty from VBSS to security to cranking for a year. A fucking year. That was the freaking worst
Cook here and yes it sucks. I say it's the hell's verzion of McDonald's. The only benefit is higher pay than civilian side and having the high ground for deals
I leave for basic tomorrow!! and going in with a nuke contract. got 3 years of college under me so I'll see if that helped! (mechanical engineering classes)
trust and believe it only ever gets worse (aside from like the first half of prototype); protips from the fleet: dont reenlist, buy a CHEAP car that runs well, dont accumulate debt - if you have more than 1500 on your credit card you are fucking up, get into working out - youll be a nub on your boat for close to 2 years and working out will be the healthiest thing to do outside working hours on deployment and youll have a lot of free time, get a hobby that isnt drinking - something like hiking is great because you will always have something to do whether you are in home port or abroad
Nicholas Rebitz I got qualed my first Boomer patrol. Took 96 days. Submarine quals are MUCH harder than surface quals. If it took you or anyone 2 years to quals then you are a shit bag. We had 2 patrols to get qualed.
I got one for you. On submarines, we have Auxillarymen, which (due to the limited amount of rates you can bring on a Sub) do all of the work that HTs do (150 men, and 7 toilets, so theres PLENTY of clogs and poop explosions), and also wake up to run diesels in emergencies, and also have to participate in all the Nuke drills, and also have to do more maintenance than almost every other rate on the Submarine, and also work in one of the hottest parts of the boat, and are responsible for the majority of the DC gear, and also have pretty mediocre advancement. Poor saps. I'm SO glad I wasn't one. Coming from a Nuke.... But the sunlight thing giving you more radiation than our shielded reactor is true. However, there is a difference between gamma and neutron radiation. One is substantially more likely to rip some subatomic particles off, if you catch my drift.
For all those recruits and wannabe's who say they are going to be a nuke ... the odds are you are not. Out of every 100 who sign up to be a nuke, only 3 make it to the fleet as a nuke. At least that's the way it was in the '70's and '80's. Of course we still used slide rules back then. Still have mine. Good Luck. ET1(SS)
Alright, lets say you gave me a bunch of topics to research at my local library, to improve my chances at Nuke School. And I spent months learning them before Boot Camp, and did well on those subjects at Nuke School... Do Nukes have to have a good competency around machinery? I mean ( I think I already know the answer to this..) how complex is the machine maintenance that they teach? Is it like taking apart a car motor and putting it back together??? I'm just wondering what is the reason for the high washout rate. Is it the academics or the practical hands on stuff... It would really be frigging useful if someone answered this question definitively and posted it on reddit once and for all.
7700Purplexity Anyone wanting to be a nuke now in 2019 it’s extremely easier, there is a fail rate of 8% throughout the pipeline and half of them are for reasons other then academics. I’m currently in prototype haven’t been to the fleet yet. but if you’re worried about school... you shouldn’t. if you got the asvab score to be a Nuc 9/10 you’re able to pass the pipeline.
CS don't wash dishes 😂 It's the FSA (cranking). But ya it sucks I cranked and we worked like 18 hour days shits wild in the galley. The only place you can under cook and over cook rice in the same batch
So I watched a video about the Navy a few days ago, UA-cam recommened me NickyMGTV, watched his best jobs. Come to your channel to watch the worst jobs, and I find out that what I want to do as a nuke will be tough. As you said, I am well willing to put effort to be the best I can at the job.
You're basically correct about Turd Chasers (HTs). If your ASVAB is low to average, you're hitting the fleet without C School. But with a good ASVAB you get advanced welding school or NDT (non-destructive testing) school. I went NDT and did not regret. Only chased a few turds.
I know I'm late to commenting on this; but I'm currently a nuke in the last stretch of schooling. I cant say what it's like in the fleet. A common joke amongst nukes is that "the fleet isn't real" because we spend so long in training. I've been in almost 2 years and the only boats/ships I've ever seen are the ones perma anchored to the shore for tourists and training. However, what I can say is that being a nuke and going through the training pipeline brings you lifelong friends. Not many people go through the kind of training that we do. We have the highest suicide rate in the military because of how stressful it is. But its improving. Yes we make a lot of money, and yes we work a LOT of hours. But personally the biggest part of being a nuke that I feel is forgotten about is the camaraderie we have with each other. This place is a special kind of hell that we spend 2 years in. Friends made here are some of the toughest and most caring people we will ever have in our life. So while the money is great, it's the friends that make it worth it. Also, from the meganerd in me: you do receive more radiation on the flight deck than we do in the spaces we work. That is a fact and my schooling teaches me the equations to prove it. 😘
This comment is a year old so you are probably in the fleet now. Whatever you do don't reenlist! The bonus money and E-5 isn't worth it in the long run.
Coryssa Nikky West it’s ok. At least you are spending the time on shore vs. at sea. I know some folks that re-enlisted that ended up spending the extra 2 years on the ship. They were so sad when they saw folks they came to the ship with leave.
sup man thanks for all the advice for boot camp it was a breeze i was a 900 div and now im in a school here at great lakes thanks for all you're help man
I'm DEP right now going NUC and I have to say all the negativity on here about it has me excited. When I put my name to papers I wanted a challenge, when my recruiter told me I quald for NUC my first though was that it sounded like it would be very straining and I'd have to be on my game every day. All the comments about it have only solidified that in my mind. I thank you all for the insight.
Being ANY type of engineer, is gonna lead a bad taste in your mouth. Sometimes literally lol. You can meet some good people and laugh a lot, but the extra hours, extra work, and extra stress, will leave you pretty low moralled. Keep that in mind new guys! Your job is fun but filled with stress, but you do advance fast!
I worked alongside the Nucs in a medical capacity. ( 4 ORSE exams). They demand excellence in everything they do. That demand washed over me any number of times. This demand has been proven because the Navy has never had a reactor accident. NAV Sea 08 takes no prisoners.
Yeah...just before I enlisted I went to a casino and valet parked my truck. When I came out I was joking around and telling them I wouldn't be back for a while bc I was enlisting. The guy who brought me my truck said he was a nuke washout, and explained the rate and the life of nothing but study, study, pt, study, eat, study, and if you are lucky, sleep. Needless to say I signed up and became an FC (I think the modern designation is FT).
MMN(surface) Nuc life is fucking terrible. 18 hour work days. we're up for 30-40 hrs at a time on a shockingly regular basis. 120-130 degrees in the plants when we're in the gulf. and on top it all off, on sundays, during holiday routine, we still stand 10 hours of watch...but that civilian paycheck $$$
Garrett parella. And here it is, buried down in the comment section. It is exactly as you have written, Garret. Nuke life MMN3-2 surface best short description yet. We hit our carrier's mid life drydock overhaul during my enlistment. Our attrition rate for our two boxes, not including normal contract turnover was 1.3 sad panda per month for a year and a quarter. The nuke program breaks weak minded people. If any of you scrubs hit a shipyard, enjoy your 117 hour work weeks.
I'm Marky all depends on your attitude. you’ll be cooking and cleaning for 5,000 people on a boat every single day. make of it what you will champ. good luck
Daniel Thompson my recruiters say that they don’t do much just cook and other people clean the mess up but I mean I’m. Just doing it for school so I’m not really tripping
I'm Marky I feel it man. Again best of luck. I go to Meps in a week and i’m shooting for swcc or navy diver. if i don’t make the cut for those i chose AO as my back up rate
PS(FTS) is probably one of the best jobs lmao. Easy ass desk job. And depending on your duty station. (I made E-4) in a year coming in as an E-2. We're the shit when it comes to reservists. And I live in San Diego for free with BAS. Sheesh, Ima have BAH in 2 months.
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JTsuits buuuuuuut I'm going o-level in a few months in lemoore so I may have to let my qual drop :/
oh dam well hey at least you get to experience Squadron life :)
JTsuits Pray for me, I'm gonna be a Nuke next year
Harley Sanchez Me too! Boot camp date April 2 2018 for me, going in as Nuke Alpha :)
Look up snipes lament. And pray.
"If they offer you a big bonus, it's because something sucks" lol
Update 3 years later: went undesignated seaman on cvn , did a deployment and struck Gunnersmate. Now on a DDG. Hit me up for advice
"We want you to be an ATF corpsman, it comes with $30k in bonuses"
@@mmadmarch they offered me 20,000 to be a submariner
Will _ I got a 96 on the asvab and my recruiter keeps trying to shove nuke down my throat
Rizaldo Mullings I had 98 same problem... I went with MR instead and couldn’t be happier lol
Will _ I’m looking at CTN too but I fucked up my credit while I was in college (first credit card at 18. Don’t do it to yourself) and I hear they consider financial history when getting security clearances.
AO BE LIKE. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHO LIVE IN A PINEAPPLE UNDER THE SEA
10/10 would read again
L.G Rice hahahahahahaha
🤣😂😅💀💀💀💀💀
Choose your rate, choose your fate. Every job will suck if you have negativity about it.
What is positive about painting 16 hours a day out at sea in a very hot engine room. I really wanted to succeed, but living like that, if you can call it living, seemed like a punishment, but for what? I felt betrayed! Things may have improved since 1976?
@@noelduncan583 are you gsm??
Yes, all the positivity when I'm painting all day, and being a professional janitor when I'm watching some dude get the same pay for taking a couple pictures. Aye aye
I didn't know anything about the navy when I joined in 2001 I got assigned ak aviation storekeeper and it wasn't too bad I actually got assigned shore duty in Oceana VA . Too be honest I really didn't know the navy had jets lol
The best plumber I ever worked with was a former HT. He was fast, accurate, and generous with his knowledge. Much respect to him!
Plumbers are God's special people!
I got a 97 on my ASVAB back in 1998 when they were offering $60,000 signing bonus for nukes. I said hell yes! And when I took my physical at fort dix they said hell no! And disqualified me for a torn ACL. Ended up making commercial fishing a career for a couple decades. Now I'm a machinist making turbine parts for the Abrams and a bunch of other military stuff. My parents were disappointed. (Both were retired with 20+ years in the Navy.) I think I dodged a bullet though. Life's been pretty groovy.
1. AO
2. HT
3. CS
4. BM / Undesignated
5. VBSS
No nuke is 5 lol
What about nuke
I think you didn’t watch the full video with sound in because VBSS wasn’t on the list.
@@RealShrigmaMaleVBSS Visit Board Search and Seizure. Not a rate but a job. I was boat officer for a VBSS team on my 8th deployment.
Leaving the first of year. Going in for I.S
My boyfriend is an AO in the Navy. I’m getting ready to enlist in the Navy as well. Everyday he reminds me “choose ya rate, choose ya fate” 😂😂
You end up enlisting?
Gloriana Gressel Did you enlist?
Did you join the fleet?😂
You'll have a ship boyfriend also.
@@stevenmorgan8223 🤣🤣🤣👍
I think it's hilarious I was dead set on joining as an AO & the guy who does your contract at MEPS had a heart to heart with me for 15 minutes to try to change my mind & Now im a Corpsman :)
Lexi Lovett good thing I originally signed up to be a seabee but wanted to leave early signed contract to be an SO WORSE idea I ever made at 18 to say the least you made a good choice f18 squadron AO
Man i wanted to be AO because i love weapons lol
Corpsman up hooyah December 5th ship!
SO? You signed a SEAL contract? Lol
CasualGamer no sea bees 🐝 they’re construction/infantry
That AO cry sounds like someone opened a portal to hell.
Yeah. If they actually fought on the ground in WW2, the Nazi's would be crapping their pants and blowing their own heads off with their Lugers.
It kinda sounds like they wish they had joined Marines haha
sounds more like something being shut down
Hilarious
@@dylancopp3073 Im pretty sure the AO rate started with Marines? Traditions stamd strong man.
20 year CS here, I always said "No air support without ground support." CS's are your real ground support, people don't fly on empty stomachs. HT belongs on this list if for nothing more than having to unclog toilets and septic systems. I've seen mess decks covered in turds, no thanks.
imacmadman22 i’m gonna be a CS(submarine) i am hesitant cause i originally wanted to be a corpman
Alexis Diaz I’m a submarine cs. It’s not too bad. Just make sure you qualify submarines and you’ll be straight lol.
@@victor115100 hi is css hard? I would appreciate the respon
@@victor115100 im gonna head to sub school in a weak, CSS also
@@carlat4187 hi, it depends on your command and chain of command, some days are, some days aren’t, make sure you qualify submarines and galley watch captain and it will be a bit easier.
I still can't believe the Seahawks didn't run the ball ;(
chris valadez me too......
What does that have to do with this???
Jima Dula ...everything
This comment made my day!!! A random comment out of nowhere & now I'm hating Belichick all over again. That smug SOB.
Lol if he scores it's the greatest call in history
I considered the Navy, one of the recruiters was AO and he was pushing it, I was like "Nah, I don't see myself loading bombs on planes." Joined the Air Force on an open contract (silly me) and what job did I get? Aircraft Armament. Loding bombs on planes. In North Dakota. In the Winter. FML.
Personally I like how loud the AOs are while marching. It makes their cadences sound dope as hell
I was a plane captain in nam with a6s l used tiedowns for a pillow
Submarine Nuke here. Gonna try to keep this unbiased, because being a nuke is a pretty cool job sometimes and I don't want to dissuade anybody from applying if it's what they want to do.
Nukes make the most money out of all the rates on a submarine by far. Right now, I'm making over $600 a month in specialty pay just being a sub nuke, and that's on top of base pay and BAH. We also make rank the fastest. I put on First Class before my 5 year point. Some nuke rates (Nuke ETs and Engineering Laboratory Technicians) make up to $100,000 on their first reenlistment (I say the first; it drops off after that). The drawback is that nukes spend more time at work than any other rate. We're the first to show up for a workday, and the last to leave most of the time. Our equipment is the most complicated and requires the most routine maintenance. It depends on your CO, but we often get the least recognition for all the hours spent at work in terms of awards as well. I could count on both hands the number of times a nuke has gotten a NAM mid-tour in the time I've been on the boat. The cone gets NAMs handed out to them for going "above and beyond," but nukes have to go a mile past "above and beyond" to even get their name in the hat.
That's not to say it isn't cool sometimes. I can't really get into why, but on a boat, deployment is a breeze for a nuke compared to the cone. Nukes also get a lot of command collateral duties like CCC, CFL, CFS, DAPA, etc. because we are often so good at managing big programs. These collaterals in themselves can get you recognition, and they're rewarding in their own right. And I think by far the biggest draw of the nuke community on submarines is the people. The people I've met in Engineering on the boat are going to be my best friends for life. Pretty much everybody on the boat has that same mindset. Sometimes coners can be dumb about some stuff, but at the end of a miserable day, I wouldn't choose to be miserable with anybody else other than these tough sons of bitches.
Trace Mychal We never got recognized for anything. We were able to fix a SW pump at sea and save the ship from going into port and we get a command coin. A cook successfully identified the difference between flour and sugar and got an Admiral's letter.
Aaron Hart To be totally fair, Admiral’s letters aren’t good for a whole lot outside of wiping your ass with them. I’ve had similar experiences but I’d take a command coin any day.
@@CharlieSlayz What exactly did you do aboard a nuclear submarine?
I'm a DEPed nuke. I go to basic in November. I was kinda bummed when nuke made this list but I got over it quick lol. I love math and science and I think I'll really enjoy school and my job. I'm also gonna be on a sub, I'm looking forward to the smaller tight knit group
M450N 8U713R what was your asvab and lines scores? Aiming for nuke
Did you know Mr.crabs was a sailor
Thomas Smith oh yeah, mr krabbs!!
Dat Boi Can you feel it now, Mr. Krabs?
Thomas Smith Krabs*
Torpedo Belly
Why does this crack me up?
Being a Nuke was extremely difficult but taught me how to learn and pass just about any test.
EM stands for extra mechanic.
@@funveeable was an ET
This is soo true! I went to nuke school only to fail out in the last week of Power School... It was literally hell on earth, and the nukes on my submarine were the most depressed and biggest functioning alcoholics I've ever met in my life...
Lmao sounds like my ex
Why does everyone have such a problem with power school? I had absolutely no issues with it and the only time I actually failed at anything was my final oral board. Literally tripping at the finish line.
Worst job in the Navy: cleaning the deck drains in the shower stalls after 6 months at sea.
sounds like BM
Neil K Walk is that bm?
Aranlex Nope not BM.
Eww shiieet
It’s probably Undesignated :))
I was a BM2 back in the 80's. You had respect as a BM! No other rate could function without us. Traditional oldest Navy rate. A serious sailor would do well in this rate, because of the varied duties to perform.
Thats right BOATS
A "BM" is a serious sailor. The rest of us are just along for the ride.😂👍
I’m a NUKE and yes it is pretty hard. Hours suck, work is very political. Especially for me since I work as an ELT. You come in super early to start up prior to deployment and go home last if you are part of the shutdown detail. Multiply the hard factor by I guess 10 if you are submarines. And yes, I am a NUKE SUB. However, since I am qualified EWS, QAI, EDPO, LELT, Master Training Specialist, I am more marketable in the civilian market. It is pretty hard. In the end, the juice is worth the squeeze.
“The juice is worth the squeeze”
I'm a nuke and you're not wrong about the hours lmao. I'm responsible for verifying radiation levels in the plant, and theyre virtually zero. One of the heaviest single components on the ship is the radiation shielding
Dang, sounds fascinating. Two years of schooling right?
Danny Bee either 15 or 18 months depending on if you go as a mechanic or as a wire rate
Danny Bee but, there cans be holds where you’re waiting for class to start, or medical issues, or waiting on clearances that can easily keep you at the school for over two years.
Get ASMO in boot camp, longer T Track, pesky delays before A school, and you'll get to star reenlist in Prototype.
It's true Nuclear Power requires the highest degree of "grey matter" and you will work your ass off. However, you will make rank faster than anyone else in the Navy and you will make more money than anyone else in the Navy (that's enlisted). My son in law asked me what was best or him as he considered joining; I asked how is your Math? he said very good, so I took him to recruiter and demanded special test to check his quals and he passed. He went from Seaman(E3) to Commander(O5) with 20 years in the Nuclear Field.
20 years as a nuke? He’s built tough
@@Me-eb3wv He was a submariner and ended as an XO on a Trident Sub and then CO on a submarine related surface ship, so he was not stuck on a reactor the whole time. He also earned a BS Electrical Engineering , MS Physical Oceanography, and MS Strategic Studies all paid for by the USN.
CS Is one of the most thankless jobs in the Navy but one of the most important. Everybody eats. Nukes make every list and they deserve respect. My dad was a BM and he always said that the Navy could not run without them.
Nuke life sucks, but it's better to laugh now and cry later. Lot's of my close friends have left the nuke community due to academic failure, but mostly to depression and mental illness. Just talk to someone before you make a big decision, I'm absolutely positive they care about you
I made it a career. A couple of times I went non-nuke on shore and once on a tender. I met a lot of nuke waste out there and I was sad to learn that those guys often went on to a much better life than I did. Because they were such high quality recruits the rest of the Navy was glad to have them. Several of the ones I knew that made it a career in the regular Navy retired as at least E-8's, about half went officer and retired Lcdr. or Cdr.
WRONG
I was an AO for 9 years and when you said AO I was like ok it sucks because you get knee problems down the line, there’s not really big civilian transitions or even if you’re squadron you’re on deck all day. Y’all where just like “Being an AO sucks because they’re loud.” 😂
😆
I qualified for
PR
BM
AO
ABH
ABF
ABE
But you don't recommend me those rates right except pr. I scored lower in my second attempt and now with the new policy I can't retest only if I would have scored higher in my second exam. I'm banned from retaking the exam until 3 years from now, I could only get in with those rates, have to choose 5, but there no good right except pr and I can't go with one rate in meps have to choose 5.
I was an I level AT. That means I used big computers to fix aviation electronics. It was a sweet job sometimes because our shops always had to be cool. When we were in the Persian Gulf in the summer, I would be wearing a jacket.
The coolest (literally) part of my job was when I went to lunch. The flight deck guys would be greasy, sweaty, and miserable, but I would go to the galley wearing my jacket and fogged-over glasses. They gave me the dirtiest looks. It was great!
lol yup this guy knows the life ,,,,, O level vs I level haha
;))
Your right about the undesignated SN rate in the deck department,But I would argue that once you make BM3 it's one of the best rates in the navy. I got out as a BM2 and would do it all over in a heartbeat.
yeah making rank helps a lot as a BM ,,,,u just gotta get through those first 2 years haha
And for you greenhorn humps getting ready to report to your first command beware the consequences for getting caught skating, they can be sever that is all...
The BM3's on our ship stood around drinking coffee. I chipped paint and sweated my tail off.
The nuclear reactors are actually very safe when it comes to radiation for Nukes. A day out in the sun does expose you to more radiation. The radiation doesn’t leak out of the reactor at least it shouldn’t unless someone screwed up.
I was an HT in the 1970s, we where called turd chasers then, but you learn skills, for example, our toilet clogged at home, my wife said what are you going to do with the fire extinguisher? Whatcha and learn I said lol! And AOs haven't changed much either!
As a former HT the shitty part of our job is the ... well shit!! But we welding is the best. Also as a Navy Diver now... no such thing as a scuba diver welder... don’t exist in the the Navy. We navy divers don’t even really weld. We cut a lot but most welding is contracted out.
As a Nuke, you gotta know how the ship propels through the water, how electricity is powered, what to do if something breaks. IT IS A LOT of information you gotta know. Not many people can attain all this information. But it's just like any other job. If you work your ass off, it pays off. And yes, jt you actually are exposed to more radiation on the flight deck. But you have to go through the program to even understand why.
You forgot Machinist Mate. It's a Boatswain's Mate painting down in that HOT hole or engine room! It's so sad; you went to "A" school at GLNTC then you may have to paint for 16 hours a day out at sea depending on which "watch" you have. In the port you work 8 hours a day.
@Noel Duncan how about the Enginemen rating ? pros and cons?
With 'Nuc life' you hit it right on the head! Actually, you do get more radiation working on the flight deck in the sun than you do working next to the reactor. The reason for this is that there are many layers of shielding between the nuc and the reactor while there is no shielding (other than the Van Allen belts and the atmosphere) between the airedale and the sun, which is just one huge radiation factory. Hope this helps.
The monkeys working around the engine room have it broiling.
I love these top lists ;)
I served during the Regan years. I joined to learn the machinist trade. Did my time, learned everything I could and was very successful as a machinist in the civilian world. You get out what you put in. I saw too many guys who joined in order to have a 4 year vacation. What a waste of time.
lol they said they don't see sunlight for days. be an MM or EN on a destroyer and you'll never see sunlight lol
T3CHNOskillz bro i need and advice, i quilified for EN, MM and GSM which is the best?
warrior killer25505 Same, I don't know which to pick
warrior killer25505 GSM
@@warriorkiller-do6xw gs
Or GSM.. us
Glad to see AO's havent changed!!!!
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JTsuits that is crazy be cuz I was told u I wit to be a C's😃😂
JTsuits hey nice vid and thanks for the feed back
JTsuits ever gonna get another sea story?
tm !
My buddy got out and got a job in Nuke power plant, now he's pulling in 85k. Not bad, HS education 4 yrs Navy & 25 yrs on the job.
Dan Frick what u mean 25 yrs on the job
What does his hours look like
I dated a cook when I was in the Army. She worked at our DEFAC I got hooked up every meal!!!
about to take my asvab, been wanting to join for like 3 months but been brushing up on certain things in "ASVAB For Dummies." Your channel helps ease my doubts, so appreciate it my boi!
Ah fuck me, 94 on the asvab and I ship out in two months for basic, en route to be a Nuke. My brother is an EM so I think I know what I’m getting myself into but damn I just hope I don’t do more than one or two deployments. I just wanna go work at a university in nuclear development or commercially for the same thing. I covet my sleep I’m so screwed
I was an AO from 2008 to 2013. I loved our family atmosphere, but I had a shitty experience. I was in VFA-41 and we did 3 deployments in 3 years. 1 on the Nimitz and 2 and the Stennis. It was love/hate lol. We worked VERY hard and partied even harder. I had a high ASVAB, but chose AO because it had a sign-on bonus and it sounded cool. IYAOYAS
I was in vfa41 one last year!!!
My dad was given the option after OCS (I’m not positive but probably OCS) to go become a pilot but decided to go to nuke school (because he’s insane). Then instead of being a nuke on a carrier he went and was a nuke on a sub. I never heard a word of complaint out of him besides the fact that he said the humming of the engines fucked up his hearing permanently.
I was actually looking into being an AO but I hope I'm not that annoying if I go through with that rating lmao
Slick Rick being annoying is etched in your brain after a-school. One of the recruiters at my district is an AO, and I shit you not... being annoying has never left his system.
Clausvonclauswitz lmao oh well
Slick Rick When everyone said AOs are so extra I didn't believe them until I got to Great Lakes
Ima be an AO and i wanna be annoying
When you go to a school, you will literally be screaming your ass off about how absolutely amazing AO is. It’s cockiness engraved into your soul lol. It’s up to you to keep it or leave it. Imma be one to leave it lol. Even though I’ll still probably be labeled annoying and a cocky dick lmao
Next do a top 5 best rates in the Navy excluding air wingers, corpsman, nuke, and special warfare jobs!
John Doe nuke isn’t the best, can cause serious psychological problems if you’re not about that life
Former 8.5-year nuke here....can confirm that it is the worst lol. It has 100% been proved that people on the flight deck get more radiation exposure from the sun than we do from the reactor. The reason we get "radiation tags" (TLD's) and people on the flight deck don't is because we have to monitor our exposure from working in the plants. We have limits we have to abide by and if we get too much then we get can get pulled from being exposed anymore. Now the main thing that you need to understand is the extremely low levels of radiation exposure working in a nuclear power plant. That is why even the small amount people receive on the flight deck is still more than what we receive working in the plants.
I was an MM. In my time, BT would have been right up there. It was 147 degrees on the Fire Room Upper Level when I was fixing the dehydrators. Underway watches in the Engineroom were bad with 6 hours on and 6 hours off, with a full workday. Your sleep time was either 1745 - 2345, or 2345- 0545. HT's were called Turd Chasers.
Was an ET and I agree with this whole list. Recently got out, and going to school, and for one of my classes Navy recruiters gave a presentation and were trying to get people to go Nuke. Man was it hard to bite my tongue, i feel for the nukes, as well as every other rate on this list.
Wow ... I scrolled, and scrolled and scrolled some more to get to the bottom of the comments ... and when that didn't work, I went back to the top ... I graduated from S3-G in West Milton, NY in early 71. Thanks for including us nukes ... and thanks for keeping us up to date on Navy life, bro ...
😂😂😂😂 you left nukes for last! My husband is an ELT. We are literally counting down the days until he gets out of the navy! Experiencing it from the wife side of things (bootcamp, a school, power school, prototype, life on a carrier), it's rough. When you get to hear from them on underways or deployment (which you don't very often, maybe every week or two) they are often sleep deprived, maybe getting 6 hours or less of sleep a night, haven't seen the sun in days, and are currently trying to decide if they would rather hang up the phone with you and sleep or eat. They start fast-cruising a few days before the rest of the ship start. And on the carrier my husband is on, most of the time they are on 3 duty sections. If they are lucky they can stretch it to 5. But the job has its upsides for when he gets out! That's what we and most other nuke families look foward to.
Thank you for your video! Definitely made me laugh! :) also thank you for your service!
Always throwing shade at the Nuke Squad smh. It's ight tho. Good work on the vids bro, keep it up, much respect.
Pryor!!!
AO: If You Ain't Ordnance You Ain't Shit
HT: If You Ain't HT You Don't Know Shit ;)
Andy San what's HT?
Hull Technician
Let's be honest all AO are crazy as fuck, but I guess you need to be when you are messing around with live rounds
*Ordnance
Thanks!! Damn phone auto-corrected me!
My whole family are in the forces! It's nice to see youtubers talking about that life! Respect to you guys and love from London! 🇬🇧 you're a sweetheart!
I’m a nuke and I can agree with how shitty the life is. However my civilian life is amazing. I make close to half a mil just with my certifications and schooling through the navy
what type of certs?
1. AO
2. HT
3. CS not a combat specialist
4. BM/undez sn
5. Nuke I guess but I would’ve put almost anything in air but it’s not bad but I don’t know anything about nukes. The yns could possibly be one But everything is 50/50
I was a single term Nuc, my lifetime exposure from Navy reactors was 46 mRem, the average person gets 100 Rem a year from the sun a year, since a lot of us Nucs are Bubbleheads, theoretically their total exposure from all sources is what the get from the reactor. An Airdale, who works their days on a flight deck would surpass my exposure in about 4 hours of work outside. This is because the Reactors are very well shielded for all types of radiation
CS's never get a holiday routine. Everybody who's getting a little down-time is still going to eat.
Broo. I met a girl at MEPS going AO and she was exactly like you guys said, she didn't even qualify though because of her vision 😂😂
81-87 Back when pollywogs became REAL shellbacks. Went in as a Radioman, hated it, switched over to Navy Diver and got out as a second class diver. 60% of long term divers get disability because of brain injuries. Did lots of TAD in the South Pacific & loved being in a small detachment with very little military bs.
Ugh I just paused NCIS to watch this... I love him💕
you're so hawttttt
NICKY MGTV ugh so are you! I almost chose AO, so now I'm glad I didn't 😂
I was an AO but not the typical BB stacker kind. I worked AIMD. I was an AO2 and never once worked flight deck. I can tell you that AO2 are a tight nit group. Pilots generally love the AOs because they love their weapons systems and the AOs take care of all that. Many a time we'd run into a group of our pilots and they'd want to hang with us.
With all that being said,AOs do work hard. When I was in,74 to 79, we loaded any nonsmart weapon upto 1000lbs, by hand. Any type of weapon that plane (A7E in my case) was loaded by AOs. The M1A1 20MM gun, missiles, rockets, and bombs were handled, loaded, fuzed and maintained by the Ordies. It's also an unforgiving job. If you screw up and don't check your work serious damage, injuries and deaths can happen and have.
Here's how I became an AO. I chose the Navy for 3 reasons . I had 4 brothers that all joined the army. I wanted to be different. I called the Coast Guard first, they never called back. No service travels as much as the Navy. One deployment can take you to 5 or 6 different counties.
I wanted the west coast Navy. Europe has never interested me. Sea sickness is not my friend. To avoid it, I needed large ship. Nothing is bigger than an aircraft carrier except another carrier. I've always liked airplanes but not the Air Force. The recruiter set me up with all that. He of course needed AOs because of Nam. It was winding down and done before I reported to my squadron. He also made AOs sound way cooler than they were.
I took early advancement in A school and came out an AO3. In December a year or so later, I made AO2. I had also been to AIMD school so by the time we deployed, I was an E5 and never had to work flight deck.
Sadly, I had the gift of passing off my squadron chain of command. It was never anything bad and never intentionally or maliciously planned on my part but crap happened. Part of wanted to re-enlist and the command tried to get me to re-up but their methods were heavy handed. I felt bullied so I went home. I have never responded well to bullies . I'm very stubborn and resourceful if need be.
Overall my Naval experience was good. I worked with some pretty good people. I gained a lot of confidence and self respect. I learned a great deal. I traveled half way around the world twice and met all kinds of people from all kinds of cultures. Ate things that I've never heard of and loved most of it.
Being stationed at Naval Air Station, there wasa flying club to join. I managed to solo 3 times before I quit flying.
The Navy is what you make it. This is true of any service or job. There are all kinds of opportunities and activities to be had if you take the time to find them. I volunteered for every school I could weasel my way into. That got me off the flight deck and may have saved my life.
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@@NotaVampyre111 Nah I was fallin asleep with my phone in my hand
Damn, I was hoping that nuke wasn't going to be on here. Still have to go through boot camp and the intense schooling but i'm still looking forward to it thanks for making these videos Jt!
Gl
Diem Thanks man
+jackson phillips and don't worry about school that much, it probably will be a little easy since they need people for this rate
+jackson phillips yw 👍🏻⚓️⚓️
Whens your ship date? I'm in the same boat so to speak
Former HT 2009-2013 on a Destroyer DDG 79. HT2 (SW) Zavala came in as a E1 left as a E5. As long as you are proud of your Job then nothing else matters. You build thick skin and can shoot the shit pretty good being an HT lol. Talk about skills in the civilian world. I became a maintenance technician for a prison. $18hr back in 2013. Then a Electrician/welder helper in construction $24hr. I told them I had welding experience. All I had to do was operate a lift and keep the welding leads in good order, and now am currently a Maintenance Technican working for Microsoft making $28HR, and when I work OT it's $42HR. I chose my Rate and my fate ain't no shame in my game. I'm proud to have served and would recommend HT to anyone. Who doesn't like to deal with people and likes to build stuff.
I actually chose HT as my rate recently and every video I watch on them say that you almost never do any welding outside of A school. Is this a misconception or is there truth to it?
@@Prince-oq2hu watch Navy Plumber Boy's videos. He does it sometimes on a carrier.
I actually CHOSE CS and it is a CAKE job!!!😂😂😂 We have the best schedules!!!!!
I couldn't agree more with your opening comments ..... 100% or don't even try.
ABH should have hit the list. Yellow shirt isn't bad but ABH Blue Shirt ..... ohhhh, It sucked. The only thing that got me through was qualifying for everything; I was a swimmer, safety, AW (eventually), I volunteered for all of it. The job itself was horrible, in my opinion.
ABH should have hit the list. Yellow shirt isn't bad but ABH Blue Shirt ..... ohhhh, It sucked. The only thing that got me through was qualifying for everything; I was a swimmer, safety, AW (eventually), I volunteered for all of it. The job itself was horrible, in my opinion.
i would put those jobs as being exciting / fun though working on the flight deck :)) compared to these other jobs haha
Very true. Blue shirt was the worst for me ..... but there are worse; you are right.
Variety Vlog by Thomas SnoWolf as an LSE I'm sure you know i was up on the Flight Deck around all the Shirts (Blue/yellow/green/white/red/purple)
and yeah the Flight Deck is a awesome crazy experience !
Just caught up to this video. Don’t always agree with what you say but I gotta say you were on point on your Nuke comments. Brutal schooling and life. It takes a certain type of person to be able to handle the constant stress. But from another standpoint the experience you gain is highly respected when you get out. I am a retired Nuke and make comfortable six figures as do almost all of my ex Nuke friends. I had 9 job offers when I got out and I wouldn’t even consider it if it was less than six figure salary. And, as others have commented, you certainly received more radiation up top than we did.
I’m a retiree Marine Corp.,my best friend is retiree E-9 Corpsman. He was in Vietnam in the field. Guy on TV was corpsman in Vietnam , Purple Heart
Dad was a Nuke. Said the communication level between a nuke and an average rate was insane, which explains why they’re awkward.
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@@unfortunate7803 Well nukes spend 2 years with some of the smartest people the navy has to offer. Once they get into the fleet and deal with other rates it’s kind of like a culture difference.
@@unfortunate7803 And I’m saying this as an MN lmao
I was undes for three years before picking up Corpsman. I’ve done every collateral duty from VBSS to security to cranking for a year. A fucking year. That was the freaking worst
The one dislike must've chose AO
Cook here and yes it sucks. I say it's the hell's verzion of McDonald's. The only benefit is higher pay than civilian side and having the high ground for deals
I leave for basic tomorrow!! and going in with a nuke contract. got 3 years of college under me so I'll see if that helped! (mechanical engineering classes)
AJ Coupe 09 good luck.. i leave way later for that same rate
AJ Coupe 09 did your recruiter tell you the pros & cons of it? & did you get offered a bonus?
therealonnah replying 6months later. about to graduate A-School and i will say that it does indeed suck but highly worth it
trust and believe it only ever gets worse (aside from like the first half of prototype); protips from the fleet: dont reenlist, buy a CHEAP car that runs well, dont accumulate debt - if you have more than 1500 on your credit card you are fucking up, get into working out - youll be a nub on your boat for close to 2 years and working out will be the healthiest thing to do outside working hours on deployment and youll have a lot of free time, get a hobby that isnt drinking - something like hiking is great because you will always have something to do whether you are in home port or abroad
Nicholas Rebitz I got qualed my first Boomer patrol. Took 96 days. Submarine quals are MUCH harder than surface quals. If it took you or anyone 2 years to quals then you are a shit bag. We had 2 patrols to get qualed.
I got one for you. On submarines, we have Auxillarymen, which (due to the limited amount of rates you can bring on a Sub) do all of the work that HTs do (150 men, and 7 toilets, so theres PLENTY of clogs and poop explosions), and also wake up to run diesels in emergencies, and also have to participate in all the Nuke drills, and also have to do more maintenance than almost every other rate on the Submarine, and also work in one of the hottest parts of the boat, and are responsible for the majority of the DC gear, and also have pretty mediocre advancement. Poor saps. I'm SO glad I wasn't one.
Coming from a Nuke.... But the sunlight thing giving you more radiation than our shielded reactor is true. However, there is a difference between gamma and neutron radiation. One is substantially more likely to rip some subatomic particles off, if you catch my drift.
For all those recruits and wannabe's who say they are going to be a nuke ... the odds are you are not. Out of every 100 who sign up to be a nuke, only 3 make it to the fleet as a nuke. At least that's the way it was in the '70's and '80's. Of course we still used slide rules back then. Still have mine. Good Luck. ET1(SS)
Alright, lets say you gave me a bunch of topics to research at my local library, to improve my chances at Nuke School. And I spent months learning them before Boot Camp, and did well on those subjects at Nuke School... Do Nukes have to have a good competency around machinery? I mean ( I think I already know the answer to this..) how complex is the machine maintenance that they teach? Is it like taking apart a car motor and putting it back together??? I'm just wondering what is the reason for the high washout rate. Is it the academics or the practical hands on stuff... It would really be frigging useful if someone answered this question definitively and posted it on reddit once and for all.
7700Purplexity Anyone wanting to be a nuke now in 2019 it’s extremely easier, there is a fail rate of 8% throughout the pipeline and half of them are for reasons other then academics. I’m currently in prototype haven’t been to the fleet yet. but if you’re worried about school... you shouldn’t. if you got the asvab score to be a Nuc 9/10 you’re able to pass the pipeline.
TLD's And Nuke is they get out will make bank working in a power plant
I was hoping not to hear nuke on this list but I heard “high turnover”
CS don't wash dishes 😂 It's the FSA (cranking). But ya it sucks I cranked and we worked like 18 hour days shits wild in the galley. The only place you can under cook and over cook rice in the same batch
Mike Rowe actually did an episode with the Seabees. It was pretty cool.
I have watched so many of his videos in the past two days. Literally my new favorite person
welcome to the fam !
thanks Cynthia! :)
So I watched a video about the Navy a few days ago, UA-cam recommened me NickyMGTV, watched his best jobs. Come to your channel to watch the worst jobs, and I find out that what I want to do as a nuke will be tough. As you said, I am well willing to put effort to be the best I can at the job.
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You're basically correct about Turd Chasers (HTs). If your ASVAB is low to average, you're hitting the fleet without C School. But with a good ASVAB you get advanced welding school or NDT (non-destructive testing) school. I went NDT and did not regret. Only chased a few turds.
I know I'm late to commenting on this; but I'm currently a nuke in the last stretch of schooling. I cant say what it's like in the fleet. A common joke amongst nukes is that "the fleet isn't real" because we spend so long in training. I've been in almost 2 years and the only boats/ships I've ever seen are the ones perma anchored to the shore for tourists and training. However, what I can say is that being a nuke and going through the training pipeline brings you lifelong friends. Not many people go through the kind of training that we do. We have the highest suicide rate in the military because of how stressful it is. But its improving. Yes we make a lot of money, and yes we work a LOT of hours. But personally the biggest part of being a nuke that I feel is forgotten about is the camaraderie we have with each other. This place is a special kind of hell that we spend 2 years in. Friends made here are some of the toughest and most caring people we will ever have in our life. So while the money is great, it's the friends that make it worth it. Also, from the meganerd in me: you do receive more radiation on the flight deck than we do in the spaces we work. That is a fact and my schooling teaches me the equations to prove it. 😘
Lol damn ur awesome yo
This comment is a year old so you are probably in the fleet now. Whatever you do don't reenlist! The bonus money and E-5 isn't worth it in the long run.
@@tongw082 Not in the fleet yet. Lol Not only did I reenlist but my dumb a** volunteered spu
Coryssa Nikky West it’s ok. At least you are spending the time on shore vs. at sea. I know some folks that re-enlisted that ended up spending the extra 2 years on the ship. They were so sad when they saw folks they came to the ship with leave.
Well great I’m getting shipped to Great Lakes on June 02 as of 2020 for basic and my job is going to be a CSS😳
Congrats, do you like your job?
sup man thanks for all the advice for boot camp it was a breeze i was a 900 div and now im in a school here at great lakes thanks for all you're help man
congrats fam keep up the good work !
Thanks fam
I'm DEP right now going NUC and I have to say all the negativity on here about it has me excited. When I put my name to papers I wanted a challenge, when my recruiter told me I quald for NUC my first though was that it sounded like it would be very straining and I'd have to be on my game every day. All the comments about it have only solidified that in my mind. I thank you all for the insight.
ur a beast !
Being ANY type of engineer, is gonna lead a bad taste in your mouth. Sometimes literally lol. You can meet some good people and laugh a lot, but the extra hours, extra work, and extra stress, will leave you pretty low moralled. Keep that in mind new guys! Your job is fun but filled with stress, but you do advance fast!
I worked alongside the Nucs in a medical capacity. ( 4 ORSE exams). They demand excellence in everything they do. That demand washed over me any number of times. This demand has been proven because the Navy has never had a reactor accident. NAV Sea 08 takes no prisoners.
They make me laugh so hard😂😂😂 unclogging the bathrooms😂😂😂 cooks with their creativity and all that jazz😂😂😂
Yeah...just before I enlisted I went to a casino and valet parked my truck. When I came out I was joking around and telling them I wouldn't be back for a while bc I was enlisting. The guy who brought me my truck said he was a nuke washout, and explained the rate and the life of nothing but study, study, pt, study, eat, study, and if you are lucky, sleep. Needless to say I signed up and became an FC (I think the modern designation is FT).
Im going to be an AO and watching this only made me happier that im going to be 1. Im am a quiet dude though so better get used to it
Hell yeah
MMN(surface)
Nuc life is fucking terrible. 18 hour work days. we're up for 30-40 hrs at a time on a shockingly regular basis. 120-130 degrees in the plants when we're in the gulf. and on top it all off, on sundays, during holiday routine, we still stand 10 hours of watch...but that civilian paycheck $$$
Garrett parella. And here it is, buried down in the comment section. It is exactly as you have written, Garret. Nuke life MMN3-2 surface best short description yet. We hit our carrier's mid life drydock overhaul during my enlistment. Our attrition rate for our two boxes, not including normal contract turnover was 1.3 sad panda per month for a year and a quarter. The nuke program breaks weak minded people. If any of you scrubs hit a shipyard, enjoy your 117 hour work weeks.
I think I want to be an AO
Go for it 🙏🙏⚓⚓
Are you annoying? lol
Retired AOC 21 years. I enjoyed it drank a lot of beers. Got to learn the entire F/A-18. QA bvbb supervisor.
Best Jobs by far
1. Undesignated Sailor
2. Paac Airman
3. CS
4. SH
5. HT
BtotheG98 hey I am going to be a CS so can you tell me why it’s good?
I'm Marky all depends on your attitude. you’ll be cooking and cleaning for 5,000 people on a boat every single day. make of it what you will champ. good luck
Daniel Thompson my recruiters say that they don’t do much just cook and other people clean the mess up but I mean I’m. Just doing it for school so I’m not really tripping
I'm Marky I feel it man. Again best of luck. I go to Meps in a week and i’m shooting for swcc or navy diver. if i don’t make the cut for those i chose AO as my back up rate
Daniel Thompson I think navy diver and swcc doesn’t matter about your score dude I think you just need to pass the prt or pst? Which ever one
PS(FTS) is probably one of the best jobs lmao. Easy ass desk job. And depending on your duty station. (I made E-4) in a year coming in as an E-2. We're the shit when it comes to reservists. And I live in San Diego for free with BAS. Sheesh, Ima have BAH in 2 months.
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Congrats on 25k!!!
thnx Ellen !
When I was in MS's didn't have it so bad on my ship they pretty much cycled half days with each other and they control the food.
No duty liberty every night
I'm soon to be AO and im rolling at the stuff you say not even mad XD