I hope the parallel of Daisuke making Cave Story to the gunsmith's speech when you get the Spur isnt lost on Vinny or chat. It's an incredibly powerful dialogue that kicks on the waterworks every time.
The dialog AFTER obtaining the Spur, right? Because the dialog right before makes it look like he looks down on game modders with disdain if interpreted that way
@@jdh96the "People who take others' tools are fools" passage sure comes across as that when under that context, but I understood that it refers to the later dialog
@@TheJomarori however, even if your interpreting it that way, he's still saying he *used to* think that way, and that he no longer does and now understands the value of someone else experiencing your work and leaving their own mark on it
You know, I still kinda wish Vinny would do the best ending, mainly just to unlock Wind Fortress, not only is it a great new level designed by Pixel himself and not Nicalis, but also the music in it is god tier, one of the best in the game easily.
He casually no-hits the fish boss when someone puts him up to it and _then_ goes on to do the same with the Sisters without even mentioning it. And then falls down the outer wall for 99 hours. Vinny is a being of extremes
Glad to see Vinny persevering through some unfortunate saves and bad luck. I hope he at least gives the Sacred Grounds a few tries; it's much easier than people make it out to be. If you take your time and farm some health, the only challenging part is Ballos, and even that battle has some good cheese. Also chat was on *fire* with the completely wrong information during this stream, wow. Saving Curly being timed, clock being required for Sacred Grounds, the cut-off for restoring Curly's memory, the little man in the cemetery. And of course, "You missed a sparkle". That one was funny, at least.
I do agree people tend to overrate how difficult hell is, it's mostly the second room that's a bitch, but once that's over you can do the health exploit at the start of the third room and take it slowly from there. Also maybe someone saw the dialogue box saying that Curly's life system has stopped that appears if you go too far in the level and mistook that for a timed event. There's also some changes that they made in the Switch version only that chat didn't account for(such as moving one of the dogs from the end of sand zone to near the beginning, hence the confusion of Vinny going left or right).
Gosh yeah especially in the Labyrinth when people said that talking to Prof. Booster causes him to die while giving you the unfinished Booster, and thus locking you out of the true ending; in the Switch version which Vinny's playing, you can refuse the Booster when talking to him instead of being forced. I guess it was true back then that it forced you to take it, but it sure ain't like that now...
It's such a cute and simple game but it's amazing how it manages to make stuff like Toroko and King, and Curly in the regular endings feel so genuinely heartbreaking, considering each of them only get a few lines of dialogue.
Man, I really wish Vin would go for true ending just so I could see the attempts at the final stage on-stream. Such an amazingly satisfying thing to beat, too.
I know he isn't doing the true ending, but he honestly probably could beat the Sacred grounds area, there's only really two somewhat difficult areas if you take it slow and farm health, the falling block area, and the ballos fight, which would be much easier if Vinny ends up saving the potion for that. But whether or not he does it, I'm just happy to see him finally finish Cave Story on stream, it's something I've been wanting to see him do ever since the terrible Cave "no" story and Cave Story 3D streams.
@@dazozl26 true, but in doing so the path to hell will be open to him regardless-- he'll probably want to try it at least once or twice since he put in the work to get there, and that's good enough for me even if he doesn't end up completing it and watches the end on yt
idk if vinny will read this: Cave Story +'s arrrangements are really good, but they have terrible instrumentation. You can find the original midis and tweak them yourself and you'll get amazing results.
Only Vinny could read "Go up and save first" from chat, interpret it as "Go through this important looking door", get bodied by a boss, and then blame chat.
I know nothing of this game, it’s totally bypassed me my entire life, seen characters, sprites, heard the ost, etc etc for years but never ACTUALLY saw gameplay, glad Vinny is playing it so I can see wtf I even missed out on all these years
40:35 I was hoping that the remake would fix this. I played this back when it first came out and my friend and I thought the idea of King's Level 3 sword being his spirit swinging the sword was such an amazing and fitting idea, but when I found out that you got more DPS out of level 2, I was incredibly disappointed.
I was hoping Vinny would listen to the Ridiculon version of Tyrant when he was messing with the jukebox. Its fantastic. The Ridiculon OST is polarizing, but Tyrant, Moonsong, and a couple of others are really good.
Why does Vinny continue to equate "professional" with "capable" ? I think we all know that being a professional doesn't mean being actually good at what you do, you simply profit from it while being patient until one's retired. Like being a professional means near to nothing except 'making bank' in a single career path.
When vin started I thought that maybe he could do the hard version of champions road area, but now I think he should get the machine gun. Its just more fun.
The cavestory+ sound track is how I feel about the thousand year door remake sound track. It tries to do way too much and makes things too bombastic like it's got an ego about it trying to one up the origionals.
I wish Vinny would do the Blood Stained Sanctuary too but you really need every life upgrade for that of you don’t have 50 health + life pot when you start for that you’re screwed essentially
Watched my brother, who's played this game more times than he can count, try to beat the Waterways boss with no hits and it took him maybe 20 attempts. Watching Vinny do it first try was kind of hilarious.
First time I played it I had the machine gun and I just flew over the pit. I didn't know you could talk to him to get the crappy jetpack early while locking yourself out of the best ending until years later.
I don't get why everyone's so harsh against the WiiWare version of the music? I think it's nice that we get to have more variations of the OSTs. I think the WiiWare versions sounds fine. It doesn't need to be a contest...
“New thing bad”, typical chat lol, although I’ve never played this and am only experiencing it for the first time with this playthrough, so i don’t have any sort of “nostalgia” connection to it 🙃
@@dumbbirdwayne i got introduced to cs with + for pc and iirc i immediately just went with the original sprites(more charming imo) and the organya ost, so idk ,-,
Bird nerd here, they have wing shapes and movement patterns like a hummingbird, but the beak and body structure is definitely more parrot like, although the hit sprite has a slightly more hummingbird type beak, hope this helps lol, feels the same way that he kept calling Red 13 a dog in FF7 when he’s literally some sort of large feline
no memes but hopefully this warms up vinny for a sincere attempt at giving undertale a shot. chat seemed to cooperate (...to a degree) to get vinny on path to the best ending, even if he doesn't make it all the way - and that "chat indecision" i think was something that put him off from playing it (as well as the constant memery and popularity of the game i suppose) - with him having played both "main inspirations" for the game (cave story and earthbound) i don't see why not. the game will be 10 years old next year... the hype surrounding it pretty much "stabilized" now and the "annoying fans" are probably gonna be focused on deltarune if that comes out by then. cave story best gaem tho
That Core fight was painful to watch. From him not picking up the rockets that were in front of him, not recharging the Polar Star, switching randomly to weapons for no reason, and then firing the Rocket Launcher after not getting rockets. Truly a shameful day in Vinesucc history
Twitch Chat Replay ► chatreplay.stream/videos/30s3gB1B9RQ
I hope the parallel of Daisuke making Cave Story to the gunsmith's speech when you get the Spur isnt lost on Vinny or chat. It's an incredibly powerful dialogue that kicks on the waterworks every time.
Was watching that part and I'd seen it before but like, it hadn't clicked, this time it got me right in the gut.
The dialog AFTER obtaining the Spur, right? Because the dialog right before makes it look like he looks down on game modders with disdain if interpreted that way
@@TheJomarori Talking out of our ass I see? In zero shape or form is that dialogue disparaging modders.
@@jdh96the "People who take others' tools are fools" passage sure comes across as that when under that context, but I understood that it refers to the later dialog
@@TheJomarori however, even if your interpreting it that way, he's still saying he *used to* think that way, and that he no longer does and now understands the value of someone else experiencing your work and leaving their own mark on it
Every time I listen to the theme of Cave Story, I think about Brentalfloss's music video with lyrics.
I haven't heard the lyrics in a decade, but they're still etched to my skull. I fucking HATE it.
YOUVE CURSED ME. THEY WERE GONE BUT NOW ITS BACK
The world's smallest violin
Cave story
Save story
Fave story
TELL YALL A STORY BOUT A CAVE...
Brent is legendary, man. Ever since I was a kid I've had his back. Nothing is cringe if you don't let it be.
You know, I still kinda wish Vinny would do the best ending, mainly just to unlock Wind Fortress, not only is it a great new level designed by Pixel himself and not Nicalis, but also the music in it is god tier, one of the best in the game easily.
No one wants him to get Lucas'd by hell
@@MegaDeathRay10i do, actually
@@MATSUMATSURIKA alright well I want a million dollars 💰
he said he wants to correct never doing the curly stuff (which is the best ending, maybe he just doesn't remember lol) so there is hope
@@Flyingboots1 hi
Vinny is terrified of the true ending yet he beat Monster X on his first try, that took me genuinely over an hour.
He casually no-hits the fish boss when someone puts him up to it and _then_ goes on to do the same with the Sisters without even mentioning it. And then falls down the outer wall for 99 hours.
Vinny is a being of extremes
Monster X isn't that hard unless you're on Hard Mode.
@@flussenceI FELL FOR HOURS. Good thing I found a magic balloon
@@musicsheep9816 that's great man.
@@musicsheep9816 four hours long time!
Glad to see Vinny persevering through some unfortunate saves and bad luck. I hope he at least gives the Sacred Grounds a few tries; it's much easier than people make it out to be. If you take your time and farm some health, the only challenging part is Ballos, and even that battle has some good cheese.
Also chat was on *fire* with the completely wrong information during this stream, wow. Saving Curly being timed, clock being required for Sacred Grounds, the cut-off for restoring Curly's memory, the little man in the cemetery. And of course, "You missed a sparkle". That one was funny, at least.
I do agree people tend to overrate how difficult hell is, it's mostly the second room that's a bitch, but once that's over you can do the health exploit at the start of the third room and take it slowly from there.
Also maybe someone saw the dialogue box saying that Curly's life system has stopped that appears if you go too far in the level and mistook that for a timed event. There's also some changes that they made in the Switch version only that chat didn't account for(such as moving one of the dogs from the end of sand zone to near the beginning, hence the confusion of Vinny going left or right).
Gosh yeah especially in the Labyrinth when people said that talking to Prof. Booster causes him to die while giving you the unfinished Booster, and thus locking you out of the true ending; in the Switch version which Vinny's playing, you can refuse the Booster when talking to him instead of being forced. I guess it was true back then that it forced you to take it, but it sure ain't like that now...
@@iamglassthingy3373 Yeah, do appreciate the + version alleviating the more cryptic stuff from the original, QoL and all that too
One shotting that Dragon fight he forgot about on 12 life probably isn't that much harder than the Hell area
They changed the position of the dog
WHY
It's such a cute and simple game but it's amazing how it manages to make stuff like Toroko and King, and Curly in the regular endings feel so genuinely heartbreaking, considering each of them only get a few lines of dialogue.
Man, I really wish Vin would go for true ending just so I could see the attempts at the final stage on-stream. Such an amazingly satisfying thing to beat, too.
forgot how sad the whole Toroko and King thing was.
I know he isn't doing the true ending, but he honestly probably could beat the Sacred grounds area, there's only really two somewhat difficult areas if you take it slow and farm health, the falling block area, and the ballos fight, which would be much easier if Vinny ends up saving the potion for that. But whether or not he does it, I'm just happy to see him finally finish Cave Story on stream, it's something I've been wanting to see him do ever since the terrible Cave "no" story and Cave Story 3D streams.
Saving Curly, killing Toriel, Vinny has experienced the best indie gaming has to offer.
What a bone-chilling game-over message.
"You were never seen again."
Tales of Vesperia has
"And they were never heard from again.
GAME OVER" as the game over message.
can't believe he got distracted by the nirvana shit track and didn't take the mushroom to curly. Foul behaviour
This is truly a tale from the under
2:13:07 that stuN seeD joke is incredible. Thank you, chat member
Honestly would watch a full video of Vin listening to all of the tracks and their variants
agreed, famitracks is so slept on and needs more credit
I'm so happy he's doing the legit ending i was so hype when he said he was gonna do it
He just wants to save curly after 20 years of leaving her behind
@@dazozl26 true, but in doing so the path to hell will be open to him regardless-- he'll probably want to try it at least once or twice since he put in the work to get there, and that's good enough for me even if he doesn't end up completing it and watches the end on yt
i thought he said he wasnt gonna try to do the true ending
Edit: nvm my bad i got it confused with a different ending
i screamed NO when he was abt to talk to the doc
Curley brace jumpscare
idk if vinny will read this:
Cave Story +'s arrrangements are really good, but they have terrible instrumentation. You can find the original midis and tweak them yourself and you'll get amazing results.
Only Vinny could read "Go up and save first" from chat, interpret it as "Go through this important looking door", get bodied by a boss, and then blame chat.
I was wondering if chat was going to bait Vinny into dying on the sparkle in the plantation lake. Chat did not disappoint.
jar jar, weesa gotta destroy the island core
yo are you telling us a story about a cave? a story about a robot? woke up with a whole lot of bravery?
9:24 yeah thats kinda what happens when you save your game at 3 hp
I know nothing of this game, it’s totally bypassed me my entire life, seen characters, sprites, heard the ost, etc etc for years but never ACTUALLY saw gameplay, glad Vinny is playing it so I can see wtf I even missed out on all these years
40:35 I was hoping that the remake would fix this. I played this back when it first came out and my friend and I thought the idea of King's Level 3 sword being his spirit swinging the sword was such an amazing and fitting idea, but when I found out that you got more DPS out of level 2, I was incredibly disappointed.
Tbf, lv3 is amazing for cover fire and groups of enemies, so while not optimal for DPS it does a great job filling a different niche.
I was hoping Vinny would listen to the Ridiculon version of Tyrant when he was messing with the jukebox. Its fantastic. The Ridiculon OST is polarizing, but Tyrant, Moonsong, and a couple of others are really good.
all of the "not the original" ones have their hits and misses to me, in general it's just a net good that we have _more_ music.
@@Lu9_STI just wish you could swap it on the fly in the game. It being title screen only ruins it.
@@LuigiXHero that too
he's done enough of the requirements for the true ending at this point that I get the feeling he'll at least attempt it out of curiosity
Why does Vinny continue to equate "professional" with "capable" ?
I think we all know that being a professional doesn't mean being actually good at what you do, you simply profit from it while being patient until one's retired.
Like being a professional means near to nothing except 'making bank' in a single career path.
Changing the position of a dog seems like a massive dev nitpick. I dont blame chat.
quality thumbnail, speedrunners love him
Why does Balrog has dumpy?
why wouldn't he?
He’s Tumblr sexy man bait, that’s why he has such dumpy
When vin started I thought that maybe he could do the hard version of champions road area, but now I think he should get the machine gun. Its just more fun.
Vinny good ending please Thanks
save ctory
yorts evac
@@stewartsimons6920 huh.
@@stewartsimons6920 russian jumpscare(stroy)
i remember this game being longer when i watched people play it like, 13 years ago
The cavestory+ sound track is how I feel about the thousand year door remake sound track. It tries to do way too much and makes things too bombastic like it's got an ego about it trying to one up the origionals.
I wish Vinny would do the Blood Stained Sanctuary too but you really need every life upgrade for that of you don’t have 50 health + life pot when you start for that you’re screwed essentially
beating Monster X first try and then dying in the Balrog fight is peak Vincent Pizzapasta 👨🍳👌
Watched my brother, who's played this game more times than he can count, try to beat the Waterways boss with no hits and it took him maybe 20 attempts.
Watching Vinny do it first try was kind of hilarious.
Why is Vinny calling yarn "sprem"
ending failed if you talk to him tilted me soooo much as a kid its so arbitrary
Booster dies from cringe if you talk to him, but if you leave he lives
First time I played it I had the machine gun and I just flew over the pit. I didn't know you could talk to him to get the crappy jetpack early while locking yourself out of the best ending until years later.
despite having played Cave Story first (on dsiware lol) i still heavily associate the sound effects with megaman sprite game 💀
1:20:57 Binyot likes Curly (as a character)
cave so beautiful
YIPEE. HE DID IT, HE SAVED CURLY 😭
whaaat, why does the steam version have no skip cutscene option, and also no music options >:c
Schüt
I don't get why everyone's so harsh against the WiiWare version of the music? I think it's nice that we get to have more variations of the OSTs. I think the WiiWare versions sounds fine. It doesn't need to be a contest...
I've never played CS before until recently and I thought the ost was fine, it's not terrible
“New thing bad”, typical chat lol, although I’ve never played this and am only experiencing it for the first time with this playthrough, so i don’t have any sort of “nostalgia” connection to it 🙃
@@dumbbirdwayne i got introduced to cs with + for pc and iirc i immediately just went with the original sprites(more charming imo) and the organya ost, so idk ,-,
Does anybody know how he played this in Widescreen?
1:42:07 saving this interaction lol
52:09
What the fuck was that noise?!
Also, i was right, Vinny is ending up playing the real ending
Chacodoobie!!!!
thank you wilfred, you have activated many a sleeper agents with that old meme
Chugga wheeeeeee!!!!! (ded)
Yebo Shicky, my beloved (I’m a Brit, I share DNA with him)
It’s back
Chat was overreacting to the ost like a reaction youtuber
considering how they react to fnf, i'd be surprised if that wasn't the case lmao
1:42:28
Why does he call them parrots they are clearly HUMMING BIRDS 😡
Bird nerd here, they have wing shapes and movement patterns like a hummingbird, but the beak and body structure is definitely more parrot like, although the hit sprite has a slightly more hummingbird type beak, hope this helps lol, feels the same way that he kept calling Red 13 a dog in FF7 when he’s literally some sort of large feline
no memes but hopefully this warms up vinny for a sincere attempt at giving undertale a shot. chat seemed to cooperate (...to a degree) to get vinny on path to the best ending, even if he doesn't make it all the way - and that "chat indecision" i think was something that put him off from playing it (as well as the constant memery and popularity of the game i suppose) - with him having played both "main inspirations" for the game (cave story and earthbound) i don't see why not. the game will be 10 years old next year... the hype surrounding it pretty much "stabilized" now and the "annoying fans" are probably gonna be focused on deltarune if that comes out by then. cave story best gaem tho
He doesn't want to. Shut up.
If he was gonna play undertale he would have already. He's not interested at all. Like it'd be fine as a pre-record series if he really wanted to.
5th!!!!!!!!!
also me n my wife luve u thx ok guoda daiy
Gouda dairy
@@drdca8263 i agree
are you the lil man lost in the cemetery
@@Lu9_ST blorpbs
That Core fight was painful to watch. From him not picking up the rockets that were in front of him, not recharging the Polar Star, switching randomly to weapons for no reason, and then firing the Rocket Launcher after not getting rockets. Truly a shameful day in Vinesucc history