ROBIN BETTER THAN RUAN MEI? | V2.2 CN Tier List

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  • @ascaron137
    @ascaron137 4 місяці тому +33

    Usage rate and appearance rate are almost the same for the characters that everyone have. For the rare ones, the diference gets bigger, like Aventurine. Not everyone has him, but if you do, it's a no brainer to bring him on the team.

  • @kazukinowa
    @kazukinowa 4 місяці тому +70

    Holy shit the Jingliu simps vs Danheng simps are going IN this video lmao.

    • @Ginko1396
      @Ginko1396 4 місяці тому +17

      competing for the worst character fanbase fr

    • @TokitoRen5633
      @TokitoRen5633 4 місяці тому +13

      not really its just coz some nobody ahem iyo thinks dhil is bad and everyone is making fun of him honestly should just ignore him or block him

    • @kazukinowa
      @kazukinowa 4 місяці тому

      @@TokitoRen5633 Do you realize that you're EXACTLY the kind of person im mentioning in my comment lmao.
      You sound like the fkin jingliu/danheng/insert character losers that get mad at other peoples opinion from any side.
      literally 0 self awareness that we're laughing AT you people, not with you LMAO.

    • @mahimraihan2235
      @mahimraihan2235 4 місяці тому +1

      It understandable cause there's no ice weakness
      I haven't seen any jingliu mains bargaining U are the only one saying😅

    • @dumpsterplayer5133
      @dumpsterplayer5133 4 місяці тому

      Mihoyo game mains culture brain rot, nothing new.

  • @KosmikYT_
    @KosmikYT_ 4 місяці тому +148

    People need to invest on their SUPPPPPPPPPER BREAK units. Interesting to see how the lists changes once it catches up a bit more

    • @simonditomasso9868
      @simonditomasso9868 4 місяці тому +13

      Suuuupa break is definitely worth investing in I can vouch

    • @dankmeimes4274
      @dankmeimes4274 4 місяці тому +5

      Super break is mid I fear

    • @notalu5874
      @notalu5874 4 місяці тому +11

      read this in franky's voice lol. SUPERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

    • @neo.3
      @neo.3 4 місяці тому

      OPPA

    • @kooweijing9061
      @kooweijing9061 4 місяці тому +1

      Wait till 🏜️🤠 come out

  • @andrewhill7365
    @andrewhill7365 4 місяці тому +11

    I dont care if follow up is the strongest or not, it is so much FUN! Using follow ups to trigger follow ups to trigger follow ups is so much fun.

  • @kafkafkafk
    @kafkafkafk 4 місяці тому +25

    The "no ice weakness" excuse really sounds funny because few patches ago people were talking about how she's the bruteforce queen that doesn't need ice weakness XD

    • @ra6765
      @ra6765 4 місяці тому

      Yeah in my experience she is still good if enemy is neutral to ice (20% resistance) but she starts to reeeeeally fall off when facing enemies like Ice Out of Space (40%) or Cocolia (whopping 60% lol. Freeze immune too) so yeah I would rather bring a proper element than just brute forcing at this point.

    • @invertbrid
      @invertbrid 4 місяці тому +3

      Lol, they make excuse now coz there is better comp than JL. Like DoTs and FuA, soon superbreak teams.

    • @mahimraihan2235
      @mahimraihan2235 4 місяці тому

      I two cycled first half🤧🤧🤧.
      She didn't fall .They got Acheron they wanna use.
      So granny in sleep

  • @jeological5394
    @jeological5394 4 місяці тому +7

    Nice to see there being a lot more variety in team comps.
    Though a large part of the variety is mainly due to robin+topaz banners being a "Flavor of the Month" and the MOC floor being favorable for imaginary DPS'.
    Still, it'll be more interesting to see the variety of teams that'll be used in the future when more banners are released that support/step-up the current comps we have available rn (hypercarry, FuA, Acheron+Nihility, *New* Superbreak)

  • @ANguyenMinhTan-bt9gp
    @ANguyenMinhTan-bt9gp 4 місяці тому +36

    Hey guys i think he's BACK with another video

    • @Wells1707
      @Wells1707 4 місяці тому +5

      SABISCRAIBE *SIGMA PHONK SONG*

    • @nonessss2810
      @nonessss2810 4 місяці тому +7

      hey guys mr. pukki hiya, bbeck with anado video

    • @Wells1707
      @Wells1707 4 місяці тому

      @@nonessss2810 yappanese master

  • @MrcreeperDXD777
    @MrcreeperDXD777 4 місяці тому +92

    Funny how DoT teams are 50% backloaded damage yet theyre still the lowest cycle turn team

    • @regail7143
      @regail7143 4 місяці тому +37

      Us kafka mains stay winning

    • @araarashinigami
      @araarashinigami 4 місяці тому +32

      Because there’s more standard crit team players, and the average crit teams are built poorly.

    • @TheAnaz41745
      @TheAnaz41745 4 місяці тому +62

      Because "backloaded" for DoT team is when enemy turns comes around, and MoC enemies are super fast so they just kill themselves faster for you

    • @Synchronizebud
      @Synchronizebud 4 місяці тому

      ​@@regail7143do yo know who's stay losing..... 🗿

    • @meowk123
      @meowk123 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@araarashinigamidot relic is more harder to maximize than crit build

  • @SoftandWet808
    @SoftandWet808 4 місяці тому +203

    DHIL stays winning. He is the only DPS in the game that gives Acheron any competition. Meanwhile Iyo is comparing him to Seele 😂

    • @BobTheSquirrel420
      @BobTheSquirrel420 4 місяці тому +163

      Iyo's takes are horrendous 😭

    • @_sidhan_7
      @_sidhan_7 4 місяці тому +70

      Iyo is the kind of a guy to snitch on his friends 💀
      Also yes his takes are insanely bad

    • @sct77
      @sct77 4 місяці тому +25

      This is CN data, they include eidolons and e2 Dan Heng is still the best hypercarry in the game.

    • @Ikaretayaroudaze
      @Ikaretayaroudaze 4 місяці тому +73

      He has some of the worst takes, i remember him saying Aventurine at E0S0 deals more DMG than Jingyuan and Argenti while sustaining better than Fuxuan 😂.

    • @ethos728
      @ethos728 4 місяці тому +19

      @@sct77e2 Acheron is prob better but e2 dhil is closer to e2 Acheron than e0 vs e0 for sure

  • @kazzler11
    @kazzler11 4 місяці тому +5

    Some of the low cycle clears are clearly whales with e2+ Acheron judging by the comps. For MoC 12 I was able to 3-star with a FuA team with an unbuilt Topaz at lvl 60 and lvl 0 relics. I just wanted to take Numby for a spin but ended up 3-staring.
    Would be interesting to see avg. lvl/Eidelons in the statistics.

  • @farius8506
    @farius8506 4 місяці тому +10

    Because there is no standard what eidolon level the teams are, the useful information you get out of average clear speed is very limited because almost the only thing that matters becomes what is the average level of whaling for the team or the character. Because of Prydwen MoC clears which are limited to e0, we know that allowing Eidolons reduces the average clear speed by around 2-2.5 cycles, and we also know that not all characters have equal amount of whales.

    • @exu7325
      @exu7325 4 місяці тому +2

      Prydwen MOC average clear speed isn't high because of E0 lol (look at the 4 stars). It's because they don't use full 36 stars as their criteria, which makes Prydwen's data *completely* useless. The clear speed in this set of data might not accurately reflect the characters' performance at E0, but there's no reason to think that "not all characters have equal amount of whales".

    • @farius8506
      @farius8506 4 місяці тому +1

      @@exu7325 4stars can get a boost from whales too. Yukong is always low on the cycles, because she is almost elusively used in teams with a e2 Dhil. Pela gets a big boost from being in teams with Acheron of various eidolon levels. And all units can get a boost from whale support units. I would consider it to be obvious that not all characters are equally whaled on in any gacha game, and all data on every game I have seen has shown that. And the difference in Eidolons can even more clearly seen in teams. If you look at this data to determine the strength of teams, you would have to say that triple nihility Archeon is among the worst teams in the game, but nobody actually thinks that. What actually happens is that whales have e2+ Archeon so they don't play triple nihility, so the ones that play it are only low spenders so the average cycles is high.

    • @exu7325
      @exu7325 4 місяці тому

      @@farius8506 The main culprit for the big difference in average clear speed is 36* clears not eidolons. You can easily compare and contrast clear speed with appearance rate (high clear speed - low appearance rate means high investment and vice versa). While Yukong is mostly used in 0 cycle comps, Pela has 55% appearance rate. Not all characters have the same earning. But there's no reason to assume that the E0:E1+ ratio for each character differs greatly

    • @farius8506
      @farius8506 4 місяці тому

      @@exu7325 appearance rate does not have a negative correlation with investment. If anything the popular characters usually have more average investment. Also the average level of investment is surprisingly high in games like this. To take Genshin for a example which I have seen the stats on, there are dps units where over 50% who own them among the population who post their abyss clears have 1 or more constellations, and there are main dps units where that number is as low as 10%. I don't see a reason why HSR would be different.

  • @Ginko1396
    @Ginko1396 4 місяці тому +31

    what caught my attention is Kafka BS teams are some of the fastest on *BOTH* sides of moc 12, behind only Acheron and the IPC Fua teams. it's nuts how people used to say dot teams are copium

    • @whitecheeze_rf
      @whitecheeze_rf 4 місяці тому +1

      I read BS as bullshit at first, and then I remember Black Swan 😂

    • @banan6216
      @banan6216 4 місяці тому +1

      It's most likely cuz the damage-floor of DOT teams is so high compared to crit teams. The fastest average clears are around 6 cycles which is alot of cycles, so alot of the stats come from newer players and for them units with a higher damage floor preform better.

    • @Ginko1396
      @Ginko1396 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@banan6216 I wonder how super break team with proper carry like Firefly gonna perform, I feel like their damage floor is even higher at baseline than dot

  • @regail7143
    @regail7143 4 місяці тому +39

    Kafka mains, we continue to feast.

    • @hirogami_owo
      @hirogami_owo 4 місяці тому +1

      Truly patience is all we need

  • @edy6824
    @edy6824 4 місяці тому +3

    i love Super Break Welt, HMC, Ruan mei, SW is so fun vs Kafka this moc

  • @wvxvw8384
    @wvxvw8384 4 місяці тому +3

    the vídeo helped me clear the 12 stage, thank you mr.

  • @rhileeroy5730
    @rhileeroy5730 4 місяці тому +5

    This is a very scuffed dataset as avg clear sample will drop with higher usage rate. N tht explains the top tier of avg clear cycle. N the fact the data is only collected for 24 hrs doesn't help as well.

  • @someone999555
    @someone999555 4 місяці тому +7

    To add to the jingliu situation, not only is there no ice weakness, but to me personally, with a good but not goodlike jl, it has been by far the hardest to brute force with her. Previously no ice weakness didnt faze jl at all, but this moc it really does. Not unplayable ofc, shes too strong for that, but if you have alternatives, its much comfier to switch to those instead.

    • @mahimraihan2235
      @mahimraihan2235 4 місяці тому +1

      Yes.I agree I two cycled first phase with jingliu.
      But the hp buff for geppi fromm 500k to double was hard to brute force.
      Not to mention seem s the new enemy looks like tanky untill I break which is why is focused on breaking them then focused on them.

  • @reedsad4652
    @reedsad4652 4 місяці тому +5

    acheron not appearing more than last? yeah because the MoC buff is for energy users. surprise2x.

  • @Thivesh_
    @Thivesh_ 4 місяці тому +9

    Its weird that variation of acheron comps also have both slower and faster cycle clears .

    • @Mugetsu192
      @Mugetsu192 4 місяці тому +24

      because acheron does not benefit from energy recharge of MoC 12.. while everyone else benefitted from that..
      DHIL having energy recharge blessing means he has absolutely no worry on going HAM with skill points especially with sparkle.

    • @gabiblack
      @gabiblack 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@Mugetsu192 she still does because ulting faster with supports means faster ults

    • @NicodemusBenaya
      @NicodemusBenaya 4 місяці тому

      ​​@@Mugetsu192she still does, tho not as much as dhil

    • @Nobody-ll7bo
      @Nobody-ll7bo 4 місяці тому +1

      ​​@@Mugetsu192she does not benefit with moc buff but her ally is, she can ult faster with galla, pela and welt ult that's already 4 stacks combine that with 160 spd and err rope acheron ult always pops

  • @shimazutakuma1031
    @shimazutakuma1031 4 місяці тому

    to be fair, MOC changes a lot depending on the update and featured unit. it does, however show that the Limited Harmony and Aventurine will be on top for a long time, Bronya being a solid unit even though her usage was lower now due to having Sparkle

  • @ryan-tabar
    @ryan-tabar 4 місяці тому +9

    I have a question: Why would you bother using appearance rate when usage rate is a better statistic because it actually tells you what characters people are choosing to use amongst their own roster?

    • @maxpower004
      @maxpower004 4 місяці тому +6

      Appearance rate tells you how effective those characters are at clearing

    • @exu7325
      @exu7325 4 місяці тому +3

      Appearance rate is useful data to compare with clear speed. If a character has high clear speed but low appearance rate, it's fair to assume it's a high-investment composition (FuA comp, Yukong, etc.) And vice versa, high appearance rate means the character needs comparatively lower investment.

  • @Rendang_Shofun
    @Rendang_Shofun 4 місяці тому +3

    It's already up! Let's goooo!

  • @Byaksune
    @Byaksune 4 місяці тому +13

    This analysis says more about the game than those strange tier lists

  • @AngelOnerom
    @AngelOnerom 4 місяці тому +2

    Data should exclude E1+ clears like Prydwen does. Characters like Seele and Bronya fall down significantly.

  • @Clodsireenjoyer-bc9cd
    @Clodsireenjoyer-bc9cd 4 місяці тому +9

    JL having less usage than Blade is crazy

    • @satoukazuma5958
      @satoukazuma5958 4 місяці тому +27

      Floor 12 had more mobs weak to wind rather than ice

    • @gabiblack
      @gabiblack 4 місяці тому +5

      What's crazier is jl clearing faster than jing yuan when enemies have lightning weakness.

    • @Radiant450
      @Radiant450 4 місяці тому +2

      @@satoukazuma5958even then JL is like half a cycle behind Acheron in clear times with no ice weakness, still a very busted unit.

  • @remu002
    @remu002 4 місяці тому +3

    why is clara so low. i dont have dot or follow up team and only farmed quantom set so far and clara carried me hard on second half

    • @dumpsterplayer5133
      @dumpsterplayer5133 4 місяці тому

      Because she's a standard unit, so a lot of people have her, but not many uses her, leading to a low usage rate. Plus, while she's solid she doesn't compare to the top tier limited units while also needing Sparkle/Tingyun and ideally DHIL's LC as well (which is basically the standard DHIL comp, so why not just run DHIL)

  • @swayitocarl
    @swayitocarl 4 місяці тому +6

    You can tell alot of people have been misinformed by Iyo with their trash takes thinking Acheron’s high damage per snapshot equates to higher total damage per cycle. It does not. DHIL has faster clears because he does more total damage while dealing less damage per snapshot.
    Sometimes having more snapshot damage means you clear the fight faster. But in MoC, being able to accumulate lots of damage quickly gets you the win and DHIL is the professor of endless turns taken.

    • @AngelOnerom
      @AngelOnerom 4 місяці тому +1

      It's baffling to me how she went from not even having the best damage per cycle calculations (by TCs) to the only Tier 0 DPS unit, overnight. Sheeps and liars, I tell you.

    • @swayitocarl
      @swayitocarl 4 місяці тому +1

      @@AngelOnerom say it louder for those in the back, they skim right past this fact

  • @dan_chen
    @dan_chen 4 місяці тому

    Bro now I understand why Pokke pronounces "genuinely" the way he does. The accent is strong with this one

  • @coincomic0079
    @coincomic0079 4 місяці тому +9

    Love this nuclear tierlist

    • @Synchronizebud
      @Synchronizebud 4 місяці тому +1

      Wait until the real atomic nuclear tier list (Village Tierlist) 🗿🗿🗿

  • @zinogrex
    @zinogrex 4 місяці тому +3

    me who has a low level clockie statue

  • @Skyace13
    @Skyace13 4 місяці тому

    Speaking from experience, Jing Yuan sucks against that Dino with the shield. So much splash damage goes to waste if it isn’t weakness broken. Also he can’t break it quickly because the dual target scenario means lighting lord doesn’t focus it. Because of that it’s not surprising to see him underperform

  • @elhichi8630
    @elhichi8630 4 місяці тому +1

    You should make a guide on MC teamcomps pls

  • @Hclody95
    @Hclody95 4 місяці тому +1

    black swan have significantly more play than kafka cuz she can either dot team either acheron team

  • @raverecage
    @raverecage 4 місяці тому

    Imagine using Aventurine + Fu Xuan and still not getting no reaction.

  • @D.Revore
    @D.Revore 4 місяці тому

    i believe not many people are interested in super break yet. explains why ruan mei dropped a little bit.
    just wait until boothill and firefly later lol

  • @luigi495
    @luigi495 4 місяці тому +2

    My Boi Argenti is so underated, he clears allways my MOC full auto, farms everything the fastest"! he ist the goat !

  • @gpgmynos
    @gpgmynos 4 місяці тому +13

    Aventurine > Fu Xuan again

    • @araarashinigami
      @araarashinigami 4 місяці тому

      Again? Idiot doesn’t realize this cycle was literally custom made for him, LMAO.

  • @bonlnw3844
    @bonlnw3844 4 місяці тому

    Bronya is still one of the strongest support, she's just hard to use

  • @Executive14
    @Executive14 4 місяці тому +27

    Black swan being above Kafka in all the metrics gotta be saying something

    • @keneunaegbu851
      @keneunaegbu851 4 місяці тому +14

      Guess Gacha Smack was right...

    • @simonditomasso9868
      @simonditomasso9868 4 місяці тому

      It’s the Acheron players right? The double lesbo tempo

    • @0kaiKai
      @0kaiKai 4 місяці тому +56

      BS is used with Acheron a lot.

    • @SoftandWet808
      @SoftandWet808 4 місяці тому +16

      Acheron is hard carrying Black Swan. But I get what you are saying Black Swan is more versatile than Kafka

    • @nonessss2810
      @nonessss2810 4 місяці тому +8

      I use BS with Dr. Ratio, Acheron, and Sampo. She's far from being just Kafka's one trick dot applier.

  • @dlwk1988
    @dlwk1988 4 місяці тому

    Pela is the true F2P MVP here

  • @elesia134
    @elesia134 4 місяці тому

    does anyone know where to see the the cn tier list?

  • @KahnJsu
    @KahnJsu 4 місяці тому +6

    Imagine almost all player have ratio, and he still get 33% usage rate, what a "free" character

    • @hypeman1021
      @hypeman1021 4 місяці тому +19

      That's quite big lol, if every player got him then he might have been used by more players than at least half the character with a bigger usage rate than him.

    • @ziodyne7774
      @ziodyne7774 4 місяці тому +2

      Who let the bro cook

    • @cake3397
      @cake3397 4 місяці тому +1

      I want dive deep into your thoughts to understand why you felt the need to comment this

    • @KahnJsu
      @KahnJsu 4 місяці тому

      @@cake3397 nah i don't want you to understand

    • @tangledfog
      @tangledfog 4 місяці тому

      @@cake3397 it's just impressive. stop being boring 🤕

  • @soloxd8396
    @soloxd8396 4 місяці тому

    I wonder what will happen when fua team gets there 2.0 dps.

  • @Ikaretayaroudaze
    @Ikaretayaroudaze 4 місяці тому +2

    Isn't Kafka weak to wind?

    • @nailyusra9250
      @nailyusra9250 4 місяці тому +8

      Yeah it is

    • @Ikaretayaroudaze
      @Ikaretayaroudaze 4 місяці тому

      @@nailyusra9250 I was confused because he said blade is dropping in usage because of no wind weakness.

    • @thederp9309
      @thederp9309 4 місяці тому +4

      @@Ikaretayaroudazewe don’t talk about Blade….

  • @ok-sg6df
    @ok-sg6df 4 місяці тому

    hook stocks will go up i'm sure of it

  • @icrskng
    @icrskng 4 місяці тому

    Does anyone know the website for these statistics?

    • @3.16music
      @3.16music 4 місяці тому

      HSR workshop in WeChat

  • @Glicole_
    @Glicole_ 4 місяці тому +2

    Which moc is this? White night or cc fest

    • @eldijdjbruh214
      @eldijdjbruh214 4 місяці тому +1

      both although the latest moc did not end yet

    • @WAVE00799
      @WAVE00799 4 місяці тому

      The new one, dream within dream

    • @Glicole_
      @Glicole_ 4 місяці тому

      fck which one is it

  • @junyaiwase
    @junyaiwase 4 місяці тому +2

    Bing bonggg

  • @JJ-mn3nd
    @JJ-mn3nd 4 місяці тому +7

    I think people forget that these are just people who cleared MoC 12, that doesn’t mean character A is better than character B, it just means Character A is comfier or more liked,

    • @stego-
      @stego- 4 місяці тому +17

      comfier does mean better.

  • @MaineOneV1
    @MaineOneV1 4 місяці тому +8

    So is Jingliu worse than DHIL now?

    • @LuizFernando-he8mc
      @LuizFernando-he8mc 4 місяці тому +30

      always was

    • @TheUnrider
      @TheUnrider 4 місяці тому +36

      it is a tier list only for this specific MOC. Theres no ice weakness, so she is in an disadvantage here, doesnt mean shes worse overall

    • @luffydono8446
      @luffydono8446 4 місяці тому +8

      ​@@LuizFernando-he8mcbefore Sparkle She was better

    • @QuebecoisModerne
      @QuebecoisModerne 4 місяці тому +25

      It’s mostly because of the imaginary weakness that is more present currently, but dhil is slightly better because of sparkle now.

    • @nailyusra9250
      @nailyusra9250 4 місяці тому +5

      Most of cn players have e2 dhil. U can considering that also

  • @aethernevsky5290
    @aethernevsky5290 4 місяці тому +3

    Just wait untill the moc buff gone and then

    • @Anya-ne1ef
      @Anya-ne1ef 4 місяці тому

      Exactly!

    • @lstinside8688
      @lstinside8688 4 місяці тому +1

      And then Boothil, RM and HMC are going to jump up. Just like always meta changes

    • @lewsee5562
      @lewsee5562 4 місяці тому

      Next MoC is break oriented. Obviously, Boothill, HMC, and RM stocks going up.

  • @tangledfog
    @tangledfog 4 місяці тому

    this moc is too easy w/ aventurine i understand why he's at the top lol

  • @ayzeee9855
    @ayzeee9855 4 місяці тому

    Ambatubust

  • @DDRdavo
    @DDRdavo 4 місяці тому

    absolutely insane

  • @keneunaegbu851
    @keneunaegbu851 4 місяці тому +10

    FUA on top 😁

  • @SkyBearial
    @SkyBearial 4 місяці тому

    Was that a fucking The Script reference???

  • @Sirciel
    @Sirciel 4 місяці тому

    According to yellovv jing yuan is op tier acheron is overrated

    • @lewsee5562
      @lewsee5562 4 місяці тому +5

      I've never seen him claim JY is OP tier. The closest thing is this:
      "did you know that acheron got insanely overrated just because she is a good 0 cycle character, while if you put her in sustainer comp with 2 nihility, jy comp can easily out dmg her"
      "it's because adding 1 harmony character to her triple nihility is like adding 200% power from just 1 character which is not possible in a sustainer comp. which is exactly what I said, ppl judge acheron base on her performance in no sustainer comp while 99% of players dont play that comp on acheron."
      That's pretty much his words. "Acheron is being overrated by the community because of her 0 cycle no-sustain performance."

    • @Sirciel
      @Sirciel 4 місяці тому

      @@lewsee5562 so clear jy > acheron
      Easily out dmg acheron

  • @tazyjump5377
    @tazyjump5377 4 місяці тому +1

    #Stopthebronyaslander

  • @LuizFernando-he8mc
    @LuizFernando-he8mc 4 місяці тому +19

    dan heng true king while midliu 15.8% 😂 seriously at some point in the game people really though she was the best dps? 😭

    • @gregoryzeng9901
      @gregoryzeng9901 4 місяці тому +14

      The people saying she could still keep up with him after Sparkle's release are the real delusional ones.

    • @zzzy1934
      @zzzy1934 4 місяці тому +43

      Its because there is no ice weakness while img weakness is everywhere🤡🤡

    • @MrcreeperDXD777
      @MrcreeperDXD777 4 місяці тому +41

      Wow imaginary dps gets a lot of usage in an MoC where one of the sides is imaginary weak what a surprise.

    • @zzzy1934
      @zzzy1934 4 місяці тому +7

      @gregoryzeng9901 she still keeps up with him😹 and she doesn't even need a limited 5 star to work

    • @gregoryzeng9901
      @gregoryzeng9901 4 місяці тому +8

      @@zzzy1934 And? Last MoC had Aventurine and DHIL still had a lower clear cycle than her.

  • @kaiftmelon
    @kaiftmelon 4 місяці тому

    Am i blessed w the MEMBERSHIP?
    Thank you

  • @licking9334
    @licking9334 4 місяці тому

    Is this Paimon Simulator: the video? I can read the chart but I guess 90% ppl need someone to read it out loud.
    what I wish is an in-depth analysis of each Unit and the answer/discussion to the clickbait title :(

  • @Cocxy69
    @Cocxy69 4 місяці тому +9

    DILH is crazy beating Acheron in average cycle

    • @WAVE00799
      @WAVE00799 4 місяці тому +5

      Only E2 Dhil can, E0 dhil can't beat Acheron in average cycles.

    • @Cocxy69
      @Cocxy69 4 місяці тому +2

      @@WAVE00799 you realise it will include E2 acheron too

    • @Sirciel
      @Sirciel 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@WAVE00799sometime it's best to accept the fact dhil > acheron

    • @WAVE00799
      @WAVE00799 4 місяці тому

      @@Sirciel ain't gonna prove it to me then...

    • @eldijdjbruh214
      @eldijdjbruh214 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Sirciellmao dhil ain’t beat acheron at e0 even at e2 😂😂

  • @pmnoxx
    @pmnoxx 4 місяці тому +3

    Where can I find the link for the data?

  • @AngelOnerom
    @AngelOnerom 4 місяці тому +8

    Acheron fans when she is favored by enemy lineups/mechanics/weaknesses/turbulence: She is best DPS in the game; Tier 0, no one even comes close.
    Acheron fans when she gets beat by DHIL: You have to take into account that both floors have IMG weakness; the turbulence doesn't help her directly, the data reflect all the CN whales who have his E2.
    Can't make this stuff up, honestly.

    • @lewsee5562
      @lewsee5562 4 місяці тому +8

      "the data reflect all the CN whales who have his E2."
      Funny, because Acheron E2 is ALSO included and her average eidolon is very high. It's pretty telling that Acheron teams with the lowest clear times are most likely E2 owners.

    • @ok-sg6df
      @ok-sg6df 4 місяці тому

      don't care, Ian Hawke powercreeps both

  • @hadmos855
    @hadmos855 4 місяці тому +3

    I don't understand why you're naming a usage rate tier list as if it's an actual tier list. It's just usage bruh

  • @juniorraya1023
    @juniorraya1023 4 місяці тому +2

    my selee oneshotting the first half with 400-450k ulti lol
    and 230k with resurgence buff on the other one
    guess ppl are just too lazy to use properly a unit

    • @keme1770
      @keme1770 4 місяці тому

      400k is actually low for a hunt charac lol

    • @noreakseymeang5641
      @noreakseymeang5641 4 місяці тому +8

      @@keme1770damn bro really now? 400k = low? Most elites have around 300k-400k hp

    • @keme1770
      @keme1770 4 місяці тому

      @@noreakseymeang5641 its def not low, but her ult frequencies made it low, all other hunt characs have higher dps than her except yanking

    • @ssjaareel1263
      @ssjaareel1263 4 місяці тому +11

      "properly use a unit" no e0 seele can hit those numbers lol

    • @dramorian4486
      @dramorian4486 4 місяці тому +6

      ​​​@@ssjaareel1263and 3 harmony supports/2 harmony + 1 nihility (Silver Wolf) lmao.
      Good luck not dying.