Picture Coltrane coming in the room, with the sheet he wrote, telling them boys to play along... Then in the recording as he humiliates any saxos who wish to rock out them strings, his musicians can't follow him xD
Why do people use this template all the time? It’s so goddamn stupid! It’s just like the Friend: What music do you listen to? Me: It’s complicated template, there’s simply no originality in there.
So just without researching, would that mean the piano player would have a bigger variety of options to improvise over? Or what exactly does that mean? Cuz I’m really interested!
I agree with this. (My english is very, very bad and poor, excuse me please!!) I'm pianist. To think in make the chords (ALL these chords! 🤯) with the left hand, and try to improvise with the right hand, and think about what are the notes he can play in each chord, and this very, very complex chords sequence that he knows since 15 minutes before... ALL THIS, at the same time!!! And the possible combination of notes at the piano are really more, larger than a monophonic instrument, you're very right
Like scales on top of chords from an accompanying instrument like the piano or guitar? So like someone playing a chord progression or progressions on piano and I play scales on saxophone in the key of that progression?
I remember when I first heard this and saw comments of people saying it wasn't in any clear key and was like, "what's the big deal? It's just in B-oh wait no...what?!?!"
As a pianist myself I feel the need to stand up and defend Flanagan... from the stories behind the recording of "Giant Steps", Coltrane basically gave them the progression and then called this blistering pace with no warm-ups.
I think he gave Flanagan only a day to practice. Not gonna lie, i don't even mind the solo, it's kinda funny, but also a nice contrast. He's not nescescarrily playing wrong notes, he's just awkwardly pausing, which can be reliefing after Coltrane's constant note shooting, if Flanaagn played fast licks similar to Coltrane's, would it be as interesting? I don't think so. But yeah, Coltrane was kinda a dick, how can anyone prepare for this shit in a day..
@@andreil7766 What's always stuck in my craw for this recording is that Flanagan is basically only playing chord-progressions through-out the entire song... like he's flying by the seat of his pants. When his solo comes, he's playing arpeggios over a base chord. Now Tommy Flanagan was not a punter by any means, he was a well established jazz pianist, and this song had him on his heels.
@@tfstalshek6398 I don’t blame Flanagan. Playing the background of chords is another part of this piece altogether. I play guitar and it definitely took me time to transition to each chord in that piece.
3:37 Flanagan: "Alright, yeah. Its starting to sound alright let me just get used to these chord chang-" 3:44 Coltrane: "-So anyway, I started blasting"
Coltrane came to Flanagan and shows him the chords progression without the context and the tempo. Just before recording. Flanagan had no time to practice the song before recording. Now, giant step is a standard that you study if you want to learn jazz, but at the time, it was like a revolution! Having to record that on the go must have been incredibly challenging. Flanagan was a very good musician, that recording didn't destroyed his career. Honestly for a recording without practice, I think he did pretty good!!!!
Every time I listen to this I imagine an extroverted person bringing in their introverted friend to a meet-up, and talking enthusiastically about their friend over the sound of the sax. Then, as the piano solo comes, the introverted person starts talking about himself, but since he’s shy, he stutters and mutters, just like the piano. Then the extrovert takes over as the sax comes back. I don’t know why, but I feel that it kinda fits the music.
I like this view a lot. A previous comment mentioned the fact that the solo, despite it's choppiness, really adds to the piece by emphasizing Coltrane's boldness, all while offering some breathing room. This speaks to the idea you brought up about extra/introversion. In the same way, we might be inclined to cast a negative light upon introverted people as they stand out less and are less abrassive, persay. But they're presence is a needed component of the interaction, as a room full of extroverted people might not be the best place to get your point across since everyone is too busy talking over the person so the other person doesn't talk over them to get anything constructive or worthwhile out of it.
@@TonyXCancer If they say they're good at melee and don't know how to wavedash, they probably aren't very good in other areas of the game. Probably is the key word, but since almost every competitive player knows, it's a high chance that they're a) not a competitive player (probably bad) b) haven't played against high level players and just think they're good.
"Why can't you keep up with me on this song I wrote and got to practice and this is your first time seeing it? **does the junkie thing**" ~John Coltrane
If you play the part from 1:53 to 1:56 at 0.5x speed, it sounds like that could be a song in itself. With that in mind, just realize how fluid and on beat he sounds, even though he's playing that twice as fast, in the middle of a solo. Absolutely insane.
he was like: " hmm let me see, let's try this... uh... no wait... too fast for this... ok how about this... ah fuck these keys move too fast... wait are we in B or Eb now? ok wait..... let's try this lick.... ah FUCK .... OK FUCK IT IMA JUST PLAY SOME CHORDS THEN..." ROFL
I get the biggest smile on my face when he barely finishes the piano solo, and Coltare just goes off like a mad man right after. I can never truly appreciate the song until that moment.
Piano player at 2:55: ''Uhhhh... okay.. let's see... nope... hmm... nope... Ok I got this.... wait... nope. Ok. Dammit, still nope. I'll just play the chords I guess.'' No disrespect to that phenomenal musician but good lord soloing and comping for Coltrane must be a nightmare.
+Mr. Thorax That's Tommy Flanagan on piano, one of the greats. The story goes that Coltrane wrote the tune and had been woodshedding it on his own. At the recording date, Flanagan saw the tune for the first time, had a handful of minutes to learn it, and then had to dive in... at 300 bpm. Pretty damn impressive he hung *at all*.
+Peter Littig Yeah, that's what the professionals do. Fucking crazy. My instructor told me that he had to go record with a big band backing a vocalist he knew. No one in the band had seen each other before, and they sightread the music, but they still sounded like they had been playing with each other for years. It's insane.
+Mr. Thorax Exactly what I thought as well hahahahah. So amusing. Flanagan so motivated at the first III-V-I progression until he realizes that this tune is not made for ''diving in'' on the same day you see the sheet for the fist time. Yet he managed to keep up so well. More than impressive if you ask me. Especially if you consider the background story that @Peter Littig described.
That's what professionals do, but this is an insanely difficult tune--esp. for the time. That's what professionals do mostly with well-worn material (blues, rhythm changes, etc.) they're all familiar with. This is something very different. I feel for Tommy Flanagan. As great as he was, this surely was a challenge. And an unfair one at that if the classic story is true that Coltrane spent months working on this before springing it upon the group.
I’ve heard discussions and also “heard” the choppiness of the piano solo, but I honestly like it, it’s a great contrast to the boldness portrayed by Coltrane, and it definitely is choppy but I like that it keeps me engaged and paying attention, and it makes Coltrane sounds that much cooler when he comes back in. I guess I just respect the piano solo even though it probably wasn’t as “ideal” as most solos are envisioned.
He did that exact same thing to David Crosby. Crosby got too stoned at a show once and went to the restroom to calm himself down. Coltrane slams the restroom door open and continues playing his solo.ua-cam.com/video/KekSaZ160uw/v-deo.html
I feel like the pure gold of this comment is not caused by the fact that this would be considered a dying man's wish, but just by the doctor's perplexed look as he watched his patient expire happily to complex jazz.
I actually think the piano solo was perfectly natural. people talk about it tripping over itself and how flanagan was struggling, but I've always thought it fit from the first time I heard it
even though he’s clearly struggling at times to follow up he stays on key and on beat the entire time, so it’s absolutely not from lack of musical ability
@@AoiiHana Apparently Coltrane gave him the chords and some hours to prepare. Many people don't realize that "improvisation" is the wrong word to describe what's going on in a jam, a blues jam or a jazz jam or whatever. It's not only the harmony which you're going to play over you have to dominate, it's the tempo, the groove... An specially this piece, which goes at the speed of light with millions of changes, and everybody is expecting you to play over every freaking chord some meaningful lines. Imagine being this piano guy, I say he did a miracle given that Coltrane practically sets a trap for him
As a total jazz noob, the first 5 or 6 times or so I heard this I thought to myself, "So what? Sounds like typical jazz.". Then I woke up and realized how insane this piece is.
I went from thinking that when that Vox video came out (Not to say I was a Jazz noob, but I was more of a music theory person than a Jazz person), to this year, when I started wanting to do a lot more Jazz myself, and damn, damn, damn. Even Erroll Garner's Misty is hard.
2:52 I love that frantic rim-shot. It's like you are siting in a dinner table and the host is ringing a wine glass to signal someone is about to speak. Then the piano starts to speak, but it sounds like it has a speech impediment or perhaps is a little shy and stutters all the time. Beautiful.
Flanagan’s solo is actually my favorite part of this piece. It makes it feel like an authentic live recording like I’m actually in the studio while they’re recording.
Tommy Flanagan's solo isn't even that bad. Considering this was the first time he saw it, and first time he knew it was going to be this fast, is actually pretty damn impressive. Let's face it. NONE of us would be able to play half as good as he did if we were in his situation
Even coltrane stumble in a few places. Aside from that, I think that people tend to overlook that solos don't happen in a vacuum, and flanagan is still exploring the sound and listening to the other players while soloing
A lot of people rip on Flanagan's solo on this tune. And you can hear, it's a lot for him to chew running thru it. However, @3:33 all I hear is pure genius. So simplistic, yet so totally out there for the changes and tempo. For me, that last part of the solo was classic.
I remember back when I was first introduced to 'Trane'. I was an 18 1/2 year old singing in my R&B singing group, early 1973. We had an intermission and I was walking by my horn section, the Trumpet player, George, Tenor Saxophone player, Tibbs and Trombonist, Mike. At the time, I was completely green about jazz, even though I had heard it my entire life in my home, as my father loved jazz. As I walked by, the three of them were talking, and the Trombone player named Mike, I overheard him say, "yeah man, but what 'Trane' did". I said who is Trane? They all looked at me as if I was from Mars. I shrugged my shoulders to indicate I didn't know who they were talking about. Mike told me to go buy the album "Giant Steps" by John Coltrane and listen to it. I did. When I put it on, I started trying to count the rhythm with my feet, while I was listening to all of this beautiful sound, all at the same time. Needless to say, it blew me away. I've never been the same since. I've loved jazz ever since, in particular John Coltrane. I am still in complete awe, all of these years later.
John Coltrane has studied philosophy from India and some areas of the Middle East and was big spiritual person. This music he was making was in time of a struggle. He know struggling had no start or ending so he had used this struggle to make a good force out of it. This song giant steps are about how everything feels so rough but then you get those days that just feel like a pocket of sunshine and heaven. These sorts of days just make you feel gigantic and triumphant to the point where your confident enough to not take baby steps anymore in the face of hard times but giant steps over it. John Coltrane was not a genius, there’s nothing to describe him, he played music because he knew this was the most natural way to express any emotion in the world.
I don't the song is "about" anything. I think he put together some very harmonies that intuitively understood enough to solo over. Titles usually come much later.
+undead Jazz .. hi.. It means Coach Coltrane forgot to tell tommy that he was speed reading this the next day? Coltrane is the worst music leader of all time ?
yeah it really isn't bad considering he was sight reading this at 286 bpm, since trane was well known for brining unrehearsed songs to the studio. It shows honestly how how good Mr. Flanagan was, then of course he absolutely destroys it later on
Judging from what I learned in the span of one evening, this is the musical equivalent of showing up to a three-legged race... with Usain Bolt as your partner. (is this right?)
“Welcome to the Salty Spitoon. How tough are ya?” “How tough am I? How tough am I?! I played Giant Steps at a jam session.” “Yeah? So?” “In 13/8.” “Uh, right this way. Sorry to keep you waiting.”
hey guys who here hates grammar nazis *EVERYONE* so peter gilman barely anyone knows good grammar, and if they do they don't use it. like i had/have some of the strictest grammar teachers neither of us go around correcting people on youtube i mean thanks for trying man but... ya know... sorry if i was harsh
Coltrane had a heroin problem in the earlier part of his career, but cleaned himself up. By the time of this recording in 1959 (I think), he’d been clean for a couple years. This song wasn’t a heroin attack. It was mastery of moving in and through music. He was a genius.
Flanagan giving us a respite from the frenetic genius of the Coltrane solo is actually genius. He knows he is out of his depth, but he handles it like a professional.
That’s not how I read it at all. To me it sounds like he was actually trying to match the pace of Coltrane, but couldn’t quite keep up with the changes, so the phrases ended up sounding glitchy and unfinished. If he had committed to a more relaxed, melodic solo, he could have kept it under control whilst also providing a satisfying counter to Coltrane’s furious noodling. You may think that the last portion of Flanagan’s solo is just that, but in reality, he just gave up and started playing chords. There wasn’t any real melody or phrasing there.
"Giant Steps" is the pinnacle of straight ahead jazz. It is as challenging as Liszt and Bartok. Yes the tempo is off the metronome but Coltrane plays it with aplomb, dexterity, and incendiary musicality. Besides, speed thrills! Can u dig it?
I am a former Classical guitarist and a former Adjunct Classical guitar teacher for the American Conservatory College in Chicago. I play Jazz Fusion and Gospel(Contemporary Christian) music now. I don't consider myself a professional music critic just making a observation and an opinion based on 48 years of experience that's all. Sonny Rollins is a virtuoso composer and a performer also. But nothing comes close to "Giant Steps" in difficulty and musical changes nothing in straight-ahead jazz in my opinion and John McLaughlin's published opinion.
Liszt isnt that challenging, but some of Bartok is a total nightmare to read, let alone play. I would a hundred times solo over giant steps than play the bartok 2nd piano concerto or something.
2:52 Coltrane to Flangan: "What do you mean it's hard to play it? It's quite simple, see I can play it with one hand and the other one I'll hammer some nails to the fence.."
After the recording: - Coltrane: smiling at the great take he just got - Chambers: sticking his hands into two ice buckets - Taylor: passed out on the floor; heart potentially stopped - Flanagan: crying in the corner of the studio
I wanna thank the movie Whiplash for introducing me into the magnificent world of jazz, such a fine and delight genre of music I was always a prog rock/metal fan, and since I've played drums for some time in my life, but diving into this complexity of a music genre with derivatives and extreme music theory is bringing me such joy and passion Guess I've found my new favorite genre
Jazz is to me one of the most beautiful genres out there. It’s expressive dynamic complex and just easy on the ears. :). Been a fan of this stuff since I heard Stan Getz & Bill Evan’s: Night and Day album back in high school.
Welcome. Jazz is the happiest of the genres. It celebrates life like no other. Some drummers to check out if you haven't already: Justin Tyson, Dave King, Marcus Gilmore, Mark Guiliana.
Even if Flanagan couldnt solo his part, he still managed to stay in tune. Heck his soloing was still top notch first time i heard it. i thought it was intentional
remy Dharmaraj Yes, let's point out the obvious. A professional musician versus someone that probably doesn't even play an instrument. Holy shit, I don't understand what entices you people to think this obvious shit. Clearly he was also making a joke, not even insulting the pianist. Learn to joke around, bud:
It's impossible to exaggerate how well Paul Chambers performed this song. I've heard many, many incredible bassists, but if the story is really true that everyone in the band is basically sightreading this then by all laws of nature and physics Paul Chambers is the greatest bass player in history. As if the chords weren't ridiculous enough, the ability to swing as well as variate the bassline in correllation to them _while sightreading_ is very, very incredibly fucking complex.
"What's the key?"
*"we dont do that here"*
_Pulls out handgun_
*I'm sorry sir i'm gonna have to ask you to leave*
abd_ monsour
Much better meme than the “Yes” one, this one actually works
Wkwowkwok
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@@outclaim guns are never good....
Drinking game: take a shot everytime the key changes
also known as alcoholism
Done. Dead
good luck teaching your drunk buddies advanced music theory
@Orange flavored Bleach Alcohol has a very high calorie content - higher than most people think
thats a little thing we in the biz like to call “alcohol poisoning”
The bassline isn’t even walking anymore it’s sprinting
underrated comment, made me chuck thank yoy
That's gold
It just qualified for the Olympics.
it's like running away from the police
@@lilfryy5614 same xD
i bought the whole instrument i'm gonna use the whole instrument.
I don't know how I've never said that. Hailllll
@@strangetamer8988 i say that everytime i attempt coltrane changes
Hahahaha
I bought the whole tampon im gonna use the whole tampon
Hahahahaha
The greatest prank ever written
All For One exactly
You goddamn right boy
Picture Coltrane coming in the room, with the sheet he wrote, telling them boys to play along... Then in the recording as he humiliates any saxos who wish to rock out them strings, his musicians can't follow him xD
Hahaha, you got that right.
Evidently you haven’t licked Mozart’s ass yet
Flanagan: What key are we in?
Coltrane: Yes.
Accurate
@@knotwilg3596 true
Why do people use this template all the time? It’s so goddamn stupid!
It’s just like the
Friend: What music do you listen to?
Me: It’s complicated
template, there’s simply no originality in there.
My god !!
I still don't understand the yes joke
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Agras
A FULL ON SPRINT
HE'S ALREADY OUT OF HERE AT MACH 5
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see it's walking but in very big steps
@@raulperez2308 that reminds me of something, but I can't put my finger on it!
Me who knows zero music theory: ah yes, the notes have become notier
Much notier indeed
2 5 1 in 12 keys and improvisation in scales with chromaticisms, all
@@pahan3335 lol look at this nerd he knows theory haha
Congrats you've realized the basics of music notation.
@@celumbral9334 it is better to know the theory than to sit on the Internet and watch anime)
that bass line robbed a store and now is escaping from the police
Hahahaha
haha cheers
Yes
xD
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Flanagan: what scale should I use for the improvisation?
Coltrane: The chromatic one silly.
Nice. 666 likes.
Walter Morgenroth p
all of the scales would work, but none of the scales would work :/
It ain't improv, he actually developed it for 2 years
@@Univercius Tommy Flanagan didn't improvise?
Everyone’s asking ‘What’s the key?’ But no one’s asking ‘How’s the key?’ 😞
lambdaman It’s a meme you normie
@@lambdaman3228 its a joke. Its based on a meme and particulary funny here, because it makes no sense
@@pegi186 what meme?
@@lambdaman3228 break a leg bro, it's nonsense....
Or is it?
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I'll do you one better.
"Why's the key?"
and to think Coltrane was only 6 years old when he wrote this, 2 years after he went deaf in both eyes.
I love this, love you, nice, thanks 👍
Deep
Not to mention his little brother was actully holding the controller
@@ivanlovrinovic748 his sax wasn't even plugged in
@@jblen wasn't even right side up
Pianist: *exists*
Coltrane: I'm gonna end this man's whole carreer
david gomez 😂😂😂
WHAT CAREER?
Lmfao
@puppiesinspace exactly. Not a fair fight.
Joey Reynolds what? Bro Tommy Flanagan is actually really really good
The drummer: "what's all the fuss this is easy"
Matthew ngl this is pretty hard on drums too
Playing this for 5-6 minutes straight can be bloody hard. Trust me.
@@domh4201 drums don't get the rests too
Albrecht Weyrother Lol good one
@@domh4201
In comparison no
Coltrane: Triangles.
Flanagan: I AM trying, and don't call me Angles.
Damm! I've laughed good at this, mate, thank you, lmao
Brilliant
Genius comment
Absolutely hilarious...
Hahahhahahahah
To be fair, Flanagan was playing a polyphonic instrument while Coltrane's sax is monophonic.
So just without researching, would that mean the piano player would have a bigger variety of options to improvise over? Or what exactly does that mean? Cuz I’m really interested!
I agree with this.
(My english is very, very bad and poor, excuse me please!!)
I'm pianist.
To think in make the chords (ALL these chords! 🤯) with the left hand, and try to improvise with the right hand, and think about what are the notes he can play in each chord, and this very, very complex chords sequence that he knows since 15 minutes before... ALL THIS, at the same time!!!
And the possible combination of notes at the piano are really more, larger than a monophonic instrument, you're very right
@@djhero0071 polyphonic means you can play more than one note at a time. For example, you can play chords on a piano but you can't on a saxophone.
So there aren’t chords on a saxophone? And I guess that means the guitar qualifies as a polyphonic instrument?
Like scales on top of chords from an accompanying instrument like the piano or guitar? So like someone playing a chord progression or progressions on piano and I play scales on saxophone in the key of that progression?
Flanagan: Are we in B, G, or Eb?
Coltrane: Yes
I remember when I first heard this and saw comments of people saying it wasn't in any clear key and was like, "what's the big deal? It's just in B-oh wait no...what?!?!"
Homie really said 'We're playing in Z key, bitch'
he picked the 3 keys that are as far away from eathother as possible. makes a triangle on the circle of fifths!
😅😅😅
Props for using the meme format correctly
When the bassline said: ⬆️➡️⬅️↘️↕️↪🔄↔️⤵️⬇️↗️↗️➡️⬅️⤴️⬇️
I felt that
you only go down
@@robustsauce3349 XXD
Tatat
@@adityaroy7616 no it don't go down
Bassline.
2:52 *let me just nail a board real quick*
🤣🤣
I FUCKING HATE THIS COMMENT. OMFGGGGGGGG SKSKSKSKSKKS
That's some fast nailing.
This made my day XD
Normally, I don’t really laugh at comments but this is too perfect lmao .
As a pianist myself I feel the need to stand up and defend Flanagan... from the stories behind the recording of "Giant Steps", Coltrane basically gave them the progression and then called this blistering pace with no warm-ups.
I think he gave Flanagan only a day to practice. Not gonna lie, i don't even mind the solo, it's kinda funny, but also a nice contrast. He's not nescescarrily playing wrong notes, he's just awkwardly pausing, which can be reliefing after Coltrane's constant note shooting, if Flanaagn played fast licks similar to Coltrane's, would it be as interesting? I don't think so.
But yeah, Coltrane was kinda a dick, how can anyone prepare for this shit in a day..
@@andreil7766 What's always stuck in my craw for this recording is that Flanagan is basically only playing chord-progressions through-out the entire song... like he's flying by the seat of his pants. When his solo comes, he's playing arpeggios over a base chord. Now Tommy Flanagan was not a punter by any means, he was a well established jazz pianist, and this song had him on his heels.
@@tfstalshek6398 I don’t blame Flanagan. Playing the background of chords is another part of this piece altogether. I play guitar and it definitely took me time to transition to each chord in that piece.
COCAINE!
@markus rg That's actually a skewed view of things. Say, when did you learn about Giant Steps?
3:37 Flanagan: "Alright, yeah. Its starting to sound alright let me just get used to these chord chang-"
3:44 Coltrane: "-So anyway, I started blasting"
So anyway, as I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted. lol
is this a dani devito reference?
you made me laugh so fucking hard
xDDD
Oh man i also laughed 😆 so hard
Me: 2:55
The guy she tells me not to worry about: 3:44
Holy shit, musical memes are so good
Underrated comment you were just late
nice one 👌 hahaha
Lol, You are Tommy Flanigan and he is John Coltrane.
LOLLLLL
He was probably sitting back laughing his ass off while Flanagan attempted to solo over the progression
no, you don't become even a good musician with that attitude, let alone John Coltrane....
@Jazzkeyboardist1 man i doubt that. so many of the old timers played everything in all 12
im guessing flan was the pianist
Coltrane came to Flanagan and shows him the chords progression without the context and the tempo. Just before recording.
Flanagan had no time to practice the song before recording.
Now, giant step is a standard that you study if you want to learn jazz, but at the time, it was like a revolution!
Having to record that on the go must have been incredibly challenging.
Flanagan was a very good musician, that recording didn't destroyed his career.
Honestly for a recording without practice, I think he did pretty good!!!!
You’re laughing.
Flanagan just got crucified, and you’re laughing.
Ok, this one got me 🤣
if you listen at 2:52 you can hear him being nailed to the cross
@@jacksonmnl7901 LMAO
Just scrolled at the right moment 😂
"Hey Doc, what key is this going to be in?"
"Keys? Where we're going, we don't need keys."
"Where we're going, we won't need keys to play."-John "I write while high" Coltrane
Where we're going, we need doors. And a map.
Every time I listen to this I imagine an extroverted person bringing in their introverted friend to a meet-up, and talking enthusiastically about their friend over the sound of the sax. Then, as the piano solo comes, the introverted person starts talking about himself, but since he’s shy, he stutters and mutters, just like the piano. Then the extrovert takes over as the sax comes back.
I don’t know why, but I feel that it kinda fits the music.
I like this view a lot. A previous comment mentioned the fact that the solo, despite it's choppiness, really adds to the piece by emphasizing Coltrane's boldness, all while offering some breathing room.
This speaks to the idea you brought up about extra/introversion. In the same way, we might be inclined to cast a negative light upon introverted people as they stand out less and are less abrassive, persay. But they're presence is a needed component of the interaction, as a room full of extroverted people might not be the best place to get your point across since everyone is too busy talking over the person so the other person doesn't talk over them to get anything constructive or worthwhile out of it.
This is perfect.
I pictured something very similar!
oh my god i really love the story this is so cute
+
Flanagan: Oh god... uhh.. crap, I botched it.
Coltrane: Let's put it in the recording anyway
More like "not gonna record this shit twice"
He didn't do a bad job considering how unprepared he was. Coltrane mapped this solo got a long time before he recorded it
@@wea69420 "Ain't gonna be no rematch." "Don't want one."
dont fear mistakes there are none
Where exactly is it? I can’t find it?
I never thought jazz memes were a thing but I'm proud this comment section proved me wrong
Adam Neely?
Superb my friend x
だろ😂
Me: i can make a song in 2 keys!
John Coltrane: hold my beer.
Flappymlg360 «hold my heroin»
**Snorts all the coke.**
**Starts playing.**
@@BendikMigliosi LMAO :D HAHAHA
In 3 actually
*hold my cocaine
Nah, Coltrane did Flanagan dirty...
Like a teacher slappin a pop quiz in front of you without warning and expecting it to be done.
its like calling out someone who can't wavedash when they say they are good at smash bros
@@TonyXCancer If they say they're good at melee and don't know how to wavedash, they probably aren't very good in other areas of the game. Probably is the key word, but since almost every competitive player knows, it's a high chance that they're a) not a competitive player (probably bad) b) haven't played against high level players and just think they're good.
more like the teacher suddenly annoucing a pop quiz is starting, and you gotta study the whole book in just a few seconds
And the pop quiz is the SAT but every few questions it switches between Mandarin, Italian, Arabic, and Hindi
"Why can't you keep up with me on this song I wrote and got to practice and this is your first time seeing it? **does the junkie thing**"
~John Coltrane
i can just imagine the bass players face
pianist thought it was a ballad
Lmao I can relate because I tried to play this song on my bass and I was just completely shocked
Wrinkled in pain lol
or pleasure
Steph Ler Mr. Pc
If you play the part from 1:53 to 1:56 at 0.5x speed, it sounds like that could be a song in itself. With that in mind, just realize how fluid and on beat he sounds, even though he's playing that twice as fast, in the middle of a solo. Absolutely insane.
Omg
It sounds like the Mario cart lick
I guess it’s because it’s made of 2-5-1 progressions in different keys and 2-5-1 is a common progression in one key.
@@thatredhead7481 YES IT DOES
Holyyy
*PERSONNEL:*
*John Coltrane* - _Tenor_
*Tommy Flanagan* - _Piano_
*Paul Chambers* - _Bass_
*Art Taylor* - _Drums_
Most useful comment here
Andreas Hoppe rip my nigga paul chambers
My man Art had it best
Chambers needs new friends for being forced to play such a hectic progression on that bass
Ahh, how they suffered, except for Taylor
Flanagan: Hey what key is this in?
Coltrane: "H"
Edit: it has come to my knowledge that H is B in some places, stop commenting about it
"Then key change to P"
@@FKMDC and then a key change to X
Some places us H to mean B (they use B for Bb)
"H" for Hammer
In Germany we actually don’t say B we say H to that note
The "choppy piano solo" goes with the song.
he was like:
" hmm let me see, let's try this... uh... no wait... too fast for this... ok how about this... ah fuck these keys move too fast... wait are we in B or Eb now? ok wait..... let's try this lick.... ah FUCK .... OK FUCK IT IMA JUST PLAY SOME CHORDS THEN..."
ROFL
The piano player had about 30 minutes to learn the song and changes
My favorite part of that story is when he got the music Tommy thought the tune was a ballad
@@pvncymusic oh my god what
I get the biggest smile on my face when he barely finishes the piano solo, and Coltare just goes off like a mad man right after. I can never truly appreciate the song until that moment.
Coltrane: *points to the Circle of Fifths*
Flanagan: alright what progressions we doing?
Coltrane: *POINTS TO THE CIRCLE OF FIFTHS MORE EMPHATICALLY*
He would be pointing to the Circle of 4th's.
@@Krullmatic I smell Samurai guitar theory
@@FlorianGuitar85 Yep that's where I came from.
@@Krullmatic it’s the same circle you just go the other direction
@@Axadn Gotcha!
Flanagan: “IM TRYING MY FUCKING BEST OK!”
Please stop liking this comment.
@@carlosgaona2480 why
Flanagan: "hangon, can we take that again?"
Coltrane: "lol nope"
Loved this one
Jazz musicians : i fear no man, but that _thing_ (points at John Coltrane) it scares me
That bass still managing to walk down scales is the magic that holds this monument together.
"Listen to the notes he's *not* playing."
-Lisa Simpson
But which ones?? *He's played all of them-*
@@IndominusWolf Well listen to the notes he doesn't play in every key he passes every 1 second hahaha
*SILENCE GETS VERY LOUD*
No one likes jazz! Even the guy playing it had to take drugs -bart simpson
Listening to nothing isn't very fun.
Vox: the circle of fifths
Coltrane: *WHAT DID YOU SAY!?*
Also Coltrane: Did you mean triangle?
Coltrane said, “ circle of what”
More like a dodecahedron of fifths. Ouch!
Anyone just drank a fifth?
Piano player at 2:55: ''Uhhhh... okay.. let's see... nope... hmm... nope... Ok I got this.... wait... nope. Ok. Dammit, still nope. I'll just play the chords I guess.''
No disrespect to that phenomenal musician but good lord soloing and comping for Coltrane must be a nightmare.
+Mr. Thorax That's Tommy Flanagan on piano, one of the greats. The story goes that Coltrane wrote the tune and had been woodshedding it on his own. At the recording date, Flanagan saw the tune for the first time, had a handful of minutes to learn it, and then had to dive in... at 300 bpm. Pretty damn impressive he hung *at all*.
+Peter Littig Yeah, that's what the professionals do. Fucking crazy. My instructor told me that he had to go record with a big band backing a vocalist he knew. No one in the band had seen each other before, and they sightread the music, but they still sounded like they had been playing with each other for years. It's insane.
+Mr. Thorax Exactly what I thought as well hahahahah. So amusing.
Flanagan so motivated at the first III-V-I progression until he realizes that this tune is not made for ''diving in'' on the same day you see the sheet for the fist time.
Yet he managed to keep up so well. More than impressive if you ask me. Especially if you consider the background story that @Peter Littig described.
That's what professionals do, but this is an insanely difficult tune--esp. for the time. That's what professionals do mostly with well-worn material (blues, rhythm changes, etc.) they're all familiar with. This is something very different. I feel for Tommy Flanagan. As great as he was, this surely was a challenge. And an unfair one at that if the classic story is true that Coltrane spent months working on this before springing it upon the group.
Dick move by Coltrane imo
This song sounds so relaxed and light and yet at the same time tense and stressed.
Basically Coltrane vibing versus the rest of them frantically trying to keep up
it is of the genre that i like to call 'anxiety jazz'
@@sid28 so spot on damn
customer service jazz
I’ve heard discussions and also “heard” the choppiness of the piano solo, but I honestly like it, it’s a great contrast to the boldness portrayed by Coltrane, and it definitely is choppy but I like that it keeps me engaged and paying attention, and it makes Coltrane sounds that much cooler when he comes back in. I guess I just respect the piano solo even though it probably wasn’t as “ideal” as most solos are envisioned.
I agree
I agree. And like your comment more than a "what key is this in?" joke. The fact is the song still works.
Glad you said that - I thought the piano solo sounded great.
Dude I just accurately discussed exactly what you just said. And it was almost like Coltrane pushed him out of the way after a while. 😂😂
I agree! I didn't even realised the pianist was struggling when I heard for the first time many years ago
Flanagan: Whats the tempo?
Coltrane: Pi.
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@SILVER EMINENCE cool
Pi is only 3.whatever, not that big of a number
no but pi would have to be so precise that it would be nearly impossible to keep track of
@@dr.timtam6782 Is pi a time signature?
2:54 I like to imagine him just walking out the room soloing onto the streets as the band keeps going.
Then he strolls back in at 3:44.
Lmao.
He did that exact same thing to David Crosby. Crosby got too stoned at a show once and went to the restroom to calm himself down. Coltrane slams the restroom door open and continues playing his solo.ua-cam.com/video/KekSaZ160uw/v-deo.html
Coltrane stumbling back into the room like a drunk relative
hahahahahahahaha
I'm 65, and I've never heard a note of Coltrane until now. Holy crap, this guy was in another galaxy. Mesmerizing.
Life is beautiful when you think about all the fun things you can encounter no matter how long you have been on this planet.
Giant steps? I can play it pertfectly the first time I saw the chart. - a sentence only a drummer can say without being bullshiting
Ah, percussion clef is a godsend :)
As a drummer , yup , just don't give me the solo lokolol
Not many drummers outside of jazz and metal can play 300bpm for 5 minutes, lol
@@darth_vyper Dont forget about corps drummers. Those boys have chops.
I was about to call out some bullshit. False alarm. Well played.
Doctor: You have 5 minutes left to live
Me:
ALGONZO hahaha
I feel like the pure gold of this comment is not caused by the fact that this would be considered a dying man's wish, but just by the doctor's perplexed look as he watched his patient expire happily to complex jazz.
Hilarious
Perfect! 😅
I'm dead from reading this 🤣
2:55 Tommy Flanagan: Uh john, I'm having some trouble, this is so weird uh... Ok yeah. Uhhhh 3:45 John Coltrane: you mind if I just yeeeeeeeeet
Snavels bro you had me fucking dead
Ha Yes!
Lol
I'm wheezing
Memeing about jazz. Is that cultured or....
I actually think the piano solo was perfectly natural. people talk about it tripping over itself and how flanagan was struggling, but I've always thought it fit from the first time I heard it
you can tell flanagan is struggling. this song is insane.
You can hear him pausing to think what to play
even though he’s clearly struggling at times to follow up he stays on key and on beat the entire time, so it’s absolutely not from lack of musical ability
@@AoiiHana Apparently Coltrane gave him the chords and some hours to prepare.
Many people don't realize that "improvisation" is the wrong word to describe what's going on in a jam, a blues jam or a jazz jam or whatever. It's not only the harmony which you're going to play over you have to dominate, it's the tempo, the groove... An specially this piece, which goes at the speed of light with millions of changes, and everybody is expecting you to play over every freaking chord some meaningful lines.
Imagine being this piano guy, I say he did a miracle given that Coltrane practically sets a trap for him
@@kjl3080 no, thats intentional
That bass player can walk so fast … he needs to be careful not to get a ticket for speeding lol :) … soo good!
Andreas Hoppe he’s running
@@lukec1471 I thought he was skipping
@@boyracer3000 Nah he's superman
As a total jazz noob, the first 5 or 6 times or so I heard this I thought to myself, "So what? Sounds like typical jazz.".
Then I woke up and realized how insane this piece is.
i am currently a noob, cant wait for my revelation!
Just came out of my noob phase, I am bloody shaking
I went from thinking that when that Vox video came out (Not to say I was a Jazz noob, but I was more of a music theory person than a Jazz person), to this year, when I started wanting to do a lot more Jazz myself, and damn, damn, damn. Even Erroll Garner's Misty is hard.
The more you learn about music the bigger the picture gets.
As another jazz noob, I really appreciate the technicality of this, but after listening to this once I can't imagine wanting to listen to it again
2:52
I love that frantic rim-shot. It's like you are siting in a dinner table and the host is ringing a wine glass to signal someone is about to speak. Then the piano starts to speak, but it sounds like it has a speech impediment or perhaps is a little shy and stutters all the time. Beautiful.
holy SHIT
I love this description
Unfortunately for Tommy Flanagan, Makis, that is an excellent analogy!
Wow thats a beautiful description
Or, as someone else in the comment brilliantly pointed out, that’s the sound of the nail being driven into poor Flanagan’s coffin 😆
Flanagan’s solo is actually my favorite part of this piece. It makes it feel like an authentic live recording like I’m actually in the studio while they’re recording.
Tommy Flanagan's solo isn't even that bad. Considering this was the first time he saw it, and first time he knew it was going to be this fast, is actually pretty damn impressive. Let's face it. NONE of us would be able to play half as good as he did if we were in his situation
nah i could do it if i had 100 years to practice and a device that slows down time to .01x speed
@@parzingtheasianthat ain’t a giant step, that’s a giant leap
Even coltrane stumble in a few places. Aside from that, I think that people tend to overlook that solos don't happen in a vacuum, and flanagan is still exploring the sound and listening to the other players while soloing
Flanagan: “yo idk man I kind of struggle there, you mind cutting it out?”
Coltrane: *publishes album* “watsup?”
A lot of people rip on Flanagan's solo on this tune. And you can hear, it's a lot for him to chew running thru it. However, @3:33 all I hear is pure genius. So simplistic, yet so totally out there for the changes and tempo. For me, that last part of the solo was classic.
It sounds beautiful amidst all the chaos
the chords honestly save this from being noodly all the time, my fav part of the song
I think I saw someone say he was sight reading it
Pure😚
@@vedantiyer8073 no he was improvising off of coltranes chord progressions, which were changing keys every, like, 3 seconds or something
I remember back when I was first introduced to 'Trane'. I was an 18 1/2 year old singing in my R&B singing group, early 1973. We had an intermission and I was walking by my horn section, the Trumpet player, George, Tenor Saxophone player, Tibbs and Trombonist, Mike. At the time, I was completely green about jazz, even though I had heard it my entire life in my home, as my father loved jazz. As I walked by, the three of them were talking, and the Trombone player named Mike, I overheard him say, "yeah man, but what 'Trane' did". I said who is Trane? They all looked at me as if I was from Mars. I shrugged my shoulders to indicate I didn't know who they were talking about. Mike told me to go buy the album "Giant Steps" by John Coltrane and listen to it. I did. When I put it on, I started trying to count the rhythm with my feet, while I was listening to all of this beautiful sound, all at the same time. Needless to say, it blew me away. I've never been the same since. I've loved jazz ever since, in particular John Coltrane. I am still in complete awe, all of these years later.
John Coltrane has studied philosophy from India and some areas of the Middle East and was big spiritual person. This music he was making was in time of a struggle. He know struggling had no start or ending so he had used this struggle to make a good force out of it. This song giant steps are about how everything feels so rough but then you get those days that just feel like a pocket of sunshine and heaven. These sorts of days just make you feel gigantic and triumphant to the point where your confident enough to not take baby steps anymore in the face of hard times but giant steps over it. John Coltrane was not a genius, there’s nothing to describe him, he played music because he knew this was the most natural way to express any emotion in the world.
Wow! What a beautiful comment specially the last part.
If Coltrane wasn't even a genius what does that make us
damn bro
@@heretic3167 yes but do it fart
I don't the song is "about" anything. I think he put together some very harmonies that intuitively understood enough to solo over. Titles usually come much later.
Coltrane: (to Flanagan) hey you ever had a stroke before
Flanagan: ummm no?
Coltrane: well get ready
@Wyneze4sheeze 02 for 3 whole minutes though?
"it goes a little something like this"
*”Would you like to?”*
I think Tommy's solo was fine. Sure he didn't have very long 8th note phrases, but Tommy played pretty clean. I actually like the solo a lot.
I agree. It's musical & actually a good contrast to Coltrane's approach.
Robby R
Yeah man.
I don't think people should believe that they have to shred on giant steps to play it right.
+undead Jazz .. hi.. It means Coach Coltrane forgot to tell tommy that he was speed reading this the next day? Coltrane is the worst music leader of all time ?
JazzKeyboardist1 I've read the story before.
yeah it really isn't bad considering he was sight reading this at 286 bpm, since trane was well known for brining unrehearsed songs to the studio. It shows honestly how how good Mr. Flanagan was, then of course he absolutely destroys it later on
Judging from what I learned in the span of one evening, this is the musical equivalent of showing up to a three-legged race... with Usain Bolt as your partner. (is this right?)
It’s a relay with Usain Bolt and Flo Jo
Yeah, except Bolt is running in direct in every single second
Sort of, but Usain turned into a horse 6 seconds into the race.
Top 10: jokes that went too far
tom: ey cant wait to play this slow ballad
john: *_2 8 7 B P M_*
tom: well atleast we are sticking to a ke-
john: *_c h r o m a t i c_*
*Chills voice intensifies
>:- O *not far enough*
Bruh, ya gotta 777 likes, do the screenshot faster 🤣
D E F G E C D
Oh yeah, this sounds like Giant Snorts by John Coketrain
Hehehe
Lmao
john kicked his heroin addiction in the late 50s
I think I'd have to b on jet fuel to attempt 😬 this
Hah! You got me.
now you must acquire a taste for
_freeform jazz_
Except this isn't Freeform jazz.
@@miniaturelabyrinth7765 woosh
@@czrm4789 you need to learn what a woosh is. The joke is from fuckin spongebob so it's not that I don't understand but it doesn't make it less wrong.
@@miniaturelabyrinth7765 Dude, this is clearly not freeform jazz and the only one that has implied it is is you, so WOOSH
I... I no longer know who's joking and who's not in this reply section, and who's right and who's wrong in this reply section.
Someone clarify please?
“It sure is great being Tommy Flanagan about to record this new song with John Coltrane, oh boy here I go”
“Welcome to the Salty Spitoon. How tough are ya?”
“How tough am I? How tough am I?! I played Giant Steps at a jam session.”
“Yeah? So?”
“In 13/8.”
“Uh, right this way. Sorry to keep you waiting.”
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I think just playing it normally is already a pretty big feat
By far the funniest comment on YT 😂
Everyone! Giant steps on 4!
1,2,3,4!
*dischodant noise*
Dischordant*
its actually very harmonious, that's the amazing part
peter gilman it would be discordant because no one be able to play it
hey guys who here hates grammar nazis
*EVERYONE*
so peter gilman barely anyone knows good grammar, and if they do they don't use it. like i had/have some of the strictest grammar teachers neither of us go around correcting people on youtube
i mean thanks for trying man but... ya know... sorry if i was harsh
Google "Coltrante changes" and woilaaaa
It's actually impossible for pianists and bassists to play this without combusting due to air friction.
Klorgmak The Smasher you gotta channel the flames and gain a new super saiyan form
Hey Klorgmak, remember what happened to all of the drummers who played with Spinal Tap?
My Dad played sax duets with John in Huntington, NY for 3 years. An experience of a lifetime
Rob Scallon: “Look! I made a song with every note!”
John Coltrane: “YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER”
*can't decide which key to play*
Coltrane: Let's do them all
All 3 of them
Coltrane had a heroin problem in the earlier part of his career, but cleaned himself up. By the time of this recording in 1959 (I think), he’d been clean for a couple years.
This song wasn’t a heroin attack. It was mastery of moving in and through music. He was a genius.
billion genius why not both?
is a "heroin attack" a thing??
the fuck's a heroin attack
@@tuttosalve8352 I think invented that
This is the OPPOSITE of heroin... This is a "meth-attack"
Flanagan giving us a respite from the frenetic genius of the Coltrane solo is actually genius. He knows he is out of his depth, but he handles it like a professional.
That’s not how I read it at all. To me it sounds like he was actually trying to match the pace of Coltrane, but couldn’t quite keep up with the changes, so the phrases ended up sounding glitchy and unfinished. If he had committed to a more relaxed, melodic solo, he could have kept it under control whilst also providing a satisfying counter to Coltrane’s furious noodling. You may think that the last portion of Flanagan’s solo is just that, but in reality, he just gave up and started playing chords. There wasn’t any real melody or phrasing there.
"Giant Steps" is the pinnacle of straight ahead jazz.
It is as challenging as Liszt and Bartok.
Yes the tempo is off the metronome but Coltrane plays it with aplomb, dexterity, and incendiary musicality.
Besides, speed thrills! Can u dig it?
PeterC12853 Do you play Liszt and Bartok? I am not disagreeing but I am just wondering where you got that.
The pinnacle? What about people who approached jazz differently like Sonny Rollins?
I am a former Classical guitarist and a former Adjunct Classical guitar teacher for the American Conservatory College in Chicago. I play Jazz Fusion and Gospel(Contemporary Christian) music now. I don't consider myself a professional music critic just making a observation and an opinion based on 48 years of experience that's all. Sonny Rollins is a virtuoso composer and a performer also. But nothing comes close to "Giant Steps" in difficulty and musical changes nothing in straight-ahead jazz in my opinion and John McLaughlin's published opinion.
Gxtmfa im interested in that. In what way did sonny rollins aproach jazz differently? Im a student and this would be very helpful
Liszt isnt that challenging, but some of Bartok is a total nightmare to read, let alone play. I would a hundred times solo over giant steps than play the bartok 2nd piano concerto or something.
Flanagan: How many accidentals in this song?
Coltrane: Yes
2:52 Coltrane to Flangan: "What do you mean it's hard to play it? It's quite simple, see I can play it with one hand and the other one I'll hammer some nails to the fence.."
😂😂😂
After the recording:
- Coltrane: smiling at the great take he just got
- Chambers: sticking his hands into two ice buckets
- Taylor: passed out on the floor; heart potentially stopped
- Flanagan: crying in the corner of the studio
I wanna thank the movie Whiplash for introducing me into the magnificent world of jazz, such a fine and delight genre of music
I was always a prog rock/metal fan, and since I've played drums for some time in my life, but diving into this complexity of a music genre with derivatives and extreme music theory is bringing me such joy and passion
Guess I've found my new favorite genre
Jazz is to me one of the most beautiful genres out there. It’s expressive dynamic complex and just easy on the ears. :). Been a fan of this stuff since I heard Stan Getz & Bill Evan’s: Night and Day album back in high school.
Prog and jazz are tied for me
Well I was listening to Opeth just 20 minutes ago :-P And suddenly there's your comment
@@Viking009 Nice dude, Opeth is one of my favorite bands! Good taste mate
Welcome. Jazz is the happiest of the genres. It celebrates life like no other.
Some drummers to check out if you haven't already: Justin Tyson, Dave King, Marcus Gilmore, Mark Guiliana.
this song makes me feel like a marble in the dryer..
dizzybynature underrated comment 😂
Flanagan: John I don’t know if I ca-
Coltrane: You’re fine it’s alright *f a s t*
If you can play it fast, you can play it slow.
@@benjiusofficial Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well.
Coltrane: " ... Good take! Time for lunch, right?"
Flanagan: "Coming! I'll just have to untangle my fingers"
Even if Flanagan couldnt solo his part, he still managed to stay in tune. Heck his soloing was still top notch first time i heard it. i thought it was intentional
Later in the 80s he did his own version of giant steps and it is great. I think Flanagan just needed another take.
Teacher: you have 1 minute to complete the test
Me: 2:55
Well his solo is not great but still something you couldnt acomplish
@@foxmonster9964 It's fucking amazing for being his first attempt at soloing over the song
Lmfaoooooooooooooooo
remy Dharmaraj Yes, let's point out the obvious. A professional musician versus someone that probably doesn't even play an instrument. Holy shit, I don't understand what entices you people to think this obvious shit. Clearly he was also making a joke, not even insulting the pianist. Learn to joke around, bud:
It’s a joke lol
Coltrane: Let's mess with the circle of fifths. Except its more of a sphere now.
This comment needs more recognition.
I'll always appreciate how John just takes off without any script. Just playing what came to mind. What a gift!
- Hey John, can you make a song with all notes possible?
- Sure
Bill Evans's Twelve Tone Tune Two
I just came to see if this song has “the lick.” It does.
Time stamp?
Time stamp pls
Time stamp
Time stamp
time stamp 8 )
This song is like a constant flowing liquid, always changing and retaining it's flow
So is this like Through the Fire and Flames on guitar hero but 10x harder?
Mate this make Through the fire and flames seem like the Smoke on the water riff in one string
This is like you’re playing through the fire and the flames with three guitars all on the hardest difficulty at 200% speed
Through the fire and flames us a physical challenge, this one is an intelectual one.
This isn't exactly physically easy either, considering the speed
Well that's true.
I'm sorry if I missed it but who is it on bass? He's KILLIN it!
Paul Chambers
Mr. P.C.
Larry Burns Jimmy garrison
Adam Neely ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
sofarfrome923 The two first answers were very serious...
Baroque composers: our pieces are the hardest to play and we have better articulation in music then anyone
John Coltrane: hold my beer
Hold my needle
William. HE REALLY DID IT TO HIM LMAO.
Hold my line
I mean
I know nothing about jazz or music theory but these comments taught me a lot. I'm better for having found this video
I like how its just a calm piano solo.............THEN COLTRANE JUMPS BACK IN!😂😂😂 3:38
That's not calm...that's frozen by panic!
Oh these are small steps for man, but Giant Steps for mankind.
Opposite for liszt
It's impossible to exaggerate how well Paul Chambers performed this song. I've heard many, many incredible bassists, but if the story is really true that everyone in the band is basically sightreading this then by all laws of nature and physics Paul Chambers is the greatest bass player in history. As if the chords weren't ridiculous enough, the ability to swing as well as variate the bassline in correllation to them _while sightreading_ is very, very incredibly fucking complex.
If you can follow along with song you have a black belt in Jazz.
bass player on point. will have to learn this one now on the good old upright
YES... that BASS is BAD!!!
3 yrs later, hows it goin? Livin the omnibook lifestyle?