YES FINALLY. a "wonky hi-hat" tutorial in terminology someone who's been drumming for years can understand ahaha. all the other tutorials never really gave the exact detail in the swing that I needed. I knew there were different sub-divisions of swing, but this REALLY helps
Johnny Rivera check this series out, it’s an actual drummer talking about how to approach this style of drumming, acoustically. ua-cam.com/video/-DkM0Zlsmmg/v-deo.html
dilla had his way.. but franky so does every other producer in the past 2 or 3 decades. look at timbaland for example - if it werent for him, half of the mtv hits wouldnt sound as dope as they do. Its just the more you dig the more you know the more you can manipulate and be creative... and its this curiosity that makes music so exciting. i hope watching him moving these legos around to make a sound didnt make you cringe to much. :D
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When you put that little kick double kick. try to remove the one that's on the downbeat of the next repetition so that you only have the one placed on the last septuplet. Then you can have a bass hit on the downbeat alone without the kick. I think that sounds really good (and I think the double kick hit is kinda abrasive with that type of kick sample, especially when they're the same velocity).
+Fiskepudding127 removing the one on the down beat is a good idea. Yes I usually change the sample. I'll put a bit of attack and a low pass on the same kick sample. Call the new sample "pre kick" and play at a lower volume. Just being lazy for the sake of keeping the video short. :)
I'm very much a fan of doing drums and playing them instead of sequence. .I tend to get decent results just from laying down a basic kick snare and hat, ,adding swing then using a full drum kit and start playing within the spaces create adding rolls and double kicks,rides etc..and from years of listening to hip hop but I don't know exactly what I'm doing...I know this video is gonna help me identify what I hear in my head so I can lay down the beat faster and make it more musically correct so thanks a million!
It's funny, I can play pretty tricky rhythms without much trouble on my SPD-S, but if you ask me to draw them in a grid like this my brain has a total melt-down. It's like the difference between walking down the street and mathematically programming a robot to do the same thing...Then again you can also program a machine to do crazy things your body never could. Both have their advantages. Personally I like to lay stuff down live via midi controller and then micro edit the velocity/samples etc from there.
As a producer who taught myself through listening, it's so interesting to hear groove and feel being described and strategized. This is a cool alternate perspective.
I'm actually kind of angry after watching this and your quintuplet swing video because it sounds so insanely good and natural that now I have to go back to every one of my tracks with a groovy sort of feel and change the drums entirely. This is amazing, thanks.
Music can be both a "natural and emotional" thing. Or be "analytical and mathematic." So to explain something, that many people have a natural feel for, in an analytical/structured way. It helps people like me whose natural instincts are not in rhythm and beats, but more in pitch and notes, to start playing around in this world too. Thanks for the tutorial brah!
Hi, nice... very nice. I want to return the flavor, so listening to your improv, try this... start your phrases on the down or up beat of 4 - the pickup. Instead of starting on the one, aim your phrasing to end on the one. When combining licks, let the middle phrases end on the upbeat of 3 - this adds anticipation. The concept is called forward motion or story telling. Thanks again for showing us how to grid the septuplet!
I’m applying septuplets swing to an house track, so kick and claps are not affected, but all the rest like hi hats, shakers and various percussion are getting a very nice groovy swing from this setting. The overall vibe is not as “odd swingy” strong like on a hip hop beat like this.
4mins in.. And i like where this nitpicking is going. Took me years to warp my head arround how they used to swing those open house hats on machines with no swing back in the days.. This kind of goes in the same direction only by manipulating the grid of one particular sample. That and no quantise is your friend. Watching this just for the thrills as im kind of out of production by now but still is fun to watch. I bet muscial theory students are cringing right now but these hip hop guys knew exactly what they were doing :D
The more divisions you put in, it becomes less a mere mathematical input, than a musical rhythmic variation evocative of those natural/organic hints in human live playing, which is, in itself, more musical.
Very informative video and the quintuplet one too. What would be very useful is some sort of chart with different swing types and polyrhythms on it. Do you (or anyone else) know of such a chart/graphic please?
thanks bro. im a beats guy. and i actually wanted to make my own shaker sample pack. so naturally this really helped me out. its amazing how much maths is actually involved with music. thanks man. you also helped make my beats sound perfect!
This is sick! I get the same affect by using the 64th note triplet grid... Also sometimes I just play a wonky groove and half quantize certain notes to a grid... This much more calculated though
great video. you can also drag the handle to have 7 divisions over 2 beats instead of 1, too. 7 divisions over 2 beats yields a totally different time feel than 7 divisions over one beat, which is kinda cool. Thanks!
Great video and very useful, thanks. Useful for quantising too, lots of comments about playing it in but if you are working with musicians doing this naturally having info like this to hand could really save the day if your not sure exactly what they are aiming for. This peaked my interest as been learning to play the drums for a good few years now.
when I put 5 hihatts into the space of 4 and try to delete one of them it doesnt competely delete the ones im trying to delete. Instead it partially or mostly deletes them but leaves a little but so that it is still an increment of 4 instead of 5. how do I fix this?
Very good approach my friend judging from the comments left. Personally I'd just play it into the DAW but still...cool that you can explain it. And I REALLY like what you did at 7:00 with the randomness. 🔥🔥🔥
1. what resources did you use to learn about the different types of swings? 2. how do you know how many midi notes you need as well as how far back you have to move the warp marker to get the type of swing you want? thanks for making these types of videos. i hope more of these are on the way
+Edgar Lara 1. UA-cam. 2. You want to squeeze 7 notes into the space of one 1/4 note. So if you add an 8th note, once you select all 8 notes you get a handle at the end of the 7th note meaning you can drag that back to the 1/4 note. 7 notes in the space of a 1/4 note.
6 years later and this video is still insanely helpful for new (hobby) producers like me. Thanks!
Very very helpful. I’ve been producing for nearly 10 years and I wish I found this video earlier.
dude i had to come back and say.. your tut has changed the way i make music.. thank you.
Awesome! Glad I could inspire you :)
Same！
YES FINALLY. a "wonky hi-hat" tutorial in terminology someone who's been drumming for years can understand ahaha. all the other tutorials never really gave the exact detail in the swing that I needed. I knew there were different sub-divisions of swing, but this REALLY helps
Try to move your snares a little bit back, and all of your hats forward, thank me later
hallelujah lol
Noob
Ben Brooker i just combine the Slynk tip with that technique for make it sound a lot less robotic :)
@@danewav1 What's the slynk tip?
you are a good man
6:17 Love how that background noise is being gated under the beat
I play the real drums, and I was not expecting that watching this videos would be a HUGE help to help me understand dilla beats
Yeah! It's also the way Zigaboo Modeliste plays the drums.
No.
Zig comes from 2nd-line school
ua-cam.com/video/0euY6LTClEU/v-deo.html
Johnny Rivera check this series out, it’s an actual drummer talking about how to approach this style of drumming, acoustically. ua-cam.com/video/-DkM0Zlsmmg/v-deo.html
dilla had his way.. but franky so does every other producer in the past 2 or 3 decades. look at timbaland for example - if it werent for him, half of the mtv hits wouldnt sound as dope as they do. Its just the more you dig the more you know the more you can manipulate and be creative... and its this curiosity that makes music so exciting. i hope watching him moving these legos around to make a sound didnt make you cringe to much. :D
you all probably dont give a shit but does anybody know of a trick to get back into an Instagram account..?
I somehow forgot my password. I would appreciate any help you can give me
When you put that little kick double kick. try to remove the one that's on the downbeat of the next repetition so that you only have the one placed on the last septuplet. Then you can have a bass hit on the downbeat alone without the kick. I think that sounds really good (and I think the double kick hit is kinda abrasive with that type of kick sample, especially when they're the same velocity).
+Fiskepudding127 removing the one on the down beat is a good idea. Yes I usually change the sample. I'll put a bit of attack and a low pass on the same kick sample. Call the new sample "pre kick" and play at a lower volume. Just being lazy for the sake of keeping the video short. :)
the most inspiring thing about this video is how much joy it brings to you
I'm very much a fan of doing drums and playing them instead of sequence. .I tend to get decent results just from laying down a basic kick snare and hat, ,adding swing then using a full drum kit and start playing within the spaces create adding rolls and double kicks,rides etc..and from years of listening to hip hop but I don't know exactly what I'm doing...I know this video is gonna help me identify what I hear in my head so I can lay down the beat faster and make it more musically correct so thanks a million!
It's funny, I can play pretty tricky rhythms without much trouble on my SPD-S, but if you ask me to draw them in a grid like this my brain has a total melt-down. It's like the difference between walking down the street and mathematically programming a robot to do the same thing...Then again you can also program a machine to do crazy things your body never could. Both have their advantages.
Personally I like to lay stuff down live via midi controller and then micro edit the velocity/samples etc from there.
MBArkestra thank you!
EXACTLY MY THOUGHT!
just récord tour midi notes and thats it
spot on explanation. brain melt down lol :D
As a producer who taught myself through listening, it's so interesting to hear groove and feel being described and strategized. This is a cool alternate perspective.
This is by far the most helpful video about swing I've ever seen on UA-cam. You've earned yourself a sub!
Thanks! Make sure you check out the quintuplet swing video too. ua-cam.com/video/xFwWEWcFTmM/v-deo.html
Damn man, this one is for the books. You are a gentleman and a scholar
bro this video changed my life 4 years ago. thank you so much for sharing this knowledge
I'm actually kind of angry after watching this and your quintuplet swing video because it sounds so insanely good and natural that now I have to go back to every one of my tracks with a groovy sort of feel and change the drums entirely. This is amazing, thanks.
Wow! Much appreciated my dude :)
Music can be both a "natural and emotional" thing. Or be "analytical and mathematic." So to explain something, that many people have a natural feel for, in an analytical/structured way. It helps people like me whose natural instincts are not in rhythm and beats, but more in pitch and notes, to start playing around in this world too. Thanks for the tutorial brah!
Flam is the drum thing. Flan is the desert. LOL Great video, man. I've been back to it multiple times and have passed it around to friends.
This knowledge is straight up gold. Thanks man
hi slynk. u should try changing metric to 5/4 but use it as 3/4 and 2/4. Each time u hit the 2/4, the beat will sound closer to a 4/4 feel :-) :-) :-)
Hi, nice... very nice. I want to return the flavor, so listening to your improv, try this... start your phrases on the down or up beat of 4 - the pickup. Instead of starting on the one, aim your phrasing to end on the one. When combining licks, let the middle phrases end on the upbeat of 3 - this adds anticipation. The concept is called forward motion or story telling. Thanks again for showing us how to grid the septuplet!
great tips for improv. thanks man. it's def something i'm trying to get better at.
Best tutorial I've seen in awhile. Great foundation for hip-hop producers
Awesome. I also created a nonoctuplet (based in 9 not 7) and it sounds great, even sounds good when combined with a septuplet beat.
best production video on youtube i have seen in a very long time
seen u b4
This is a SUPER, SUPER helpful video. Thanks so much!
I’m applying septuplets swing to an house track, so kick and claps are not affected, but all the rest like hi hats, shakers and various percussion are getting a very nice groovy swing from this setting. The overall vibe is not as “odd swingy” strong like on a hip hop beat like this.
4mins in.. And i like where this nitpicking is going. Took me years to warp my head arround how they used to swing those open house hats on machines with no swing back in the days.. This kind of goes in the same direction only by manipulating the grid of one particular sample. That and no quantise is your friend. Watching this just for the thrills as im kind of out of production by now but still is fun to watch. I bet muscial theory students are cringing right now but these hip hop guys knew exactly what they were doing :D
The examples you make in your tutorials are always bangers.
Thank you! Your videos are great.
Beautifully done. Thanks for the inspiration
Bravo!!! You've invigorated my new found love for complex rhythms! thnx
+djMiflyn awesome :)
I am SO glad Collab Alliance brought me to you... this is amazing.
thanks for taking the time to check me out :) glad you like the video.
great tutorial!! defo going to try septuplets swing
wonderful
whatched it tons of times already
I took a long hiatus from making music, your vids have given me life again. Thank you.
Thanks man, this is really awesome. As a neosoul fan and ableton user myself i found this video really useful. Subbed.
Great work - some of this is stuff I'd never have thought to do. Very funky beats.
Very informative video, much love!
It's flam dude, flan is the sponge dessert lol
Thankyou haha!
Flan is that thing from Courage The Cowardly Dog
i love courage the cowardly dog
Amazing! Going to try this tomorrow in my new studio!!
this sent me on a trip of endless ideas. so cool
Mind blown...Great video Slynk!
Thanks! My mind was also blown when I figured this out :)
wtf how did i miss this tutorial years ago wow you are legendary
you sir...are amazing.
kudos to all your videos!
Thankyou so much dude!
This is a fantastic video. I'm producing 10 years and I have learned a lot in this. Thanks Slynk!!
Slynk man! really like the way you explain through things really easy to understand will def subscribe and look forward to future videos! cheers
You are awesome man! Nice video!
Pure gold man, thanks for sharing!
So funky , you need to make a video on how to get synths like that
The more divisions you put in, it becomes less a mere mathematical input, than a musical rhythmic variation evocative of those natural/organic hints in human live playing, which is, in itself, more musical.
I’m glad i found this video! Thanks a million!
Thank you for this. Inspired!
Very informative video and the quintuplet one too. What would be very useful is some sort of chart with different swing types and polyrhythms on it. Do you (or anyone else) know of such a chart/graphic please?
+Rob McCrudden I don't know of a chart like this. I'd like to see that.
Dude great video, and such a groove to top it off! Thank you.
So groovy, awesome tutorial!
Brilliant. Gunna try this in my house track 😎
thanks bro. im a beats guy. and i actually wanted to make my own shaker sample pack. so naturally this really helped me out. its amazing how much maths is actually involved with music. thanks man. you also helped make my beats sound perfect!
intresting stuff, thanks for the tutorial!
So THAT's what that is!! Been listening to Dilla since early Slum Village, but never figured it out - THANKS MAN
Great explanation. Primo Educational
Fantastic tutorial, haven't seen this concept laid out so cleanly anywhere else, and the results are for real. Keep it up!
Super useful! Thank you!
This tutorial is AWESOME dude!! Been searching for this for years, never knew it was a frikking Septuplet swing! Really dope rhythm stuff!!
+Marcus W. Glad you like the tutorial! Please check out my other videos too :)
Slynk, back at it again with the fire gnosis. Blessings to you, bruv. Be well , stay healthy, and much love to you.
Thanks!
Listen to Flumes first work, you'll hear some subtle Percy sounds which have the septuplet swing in it.
This is sick! I get the same affect by using the 64th note triplet grid... Also sometimes I just play a wonky groove and half quantize certain notes to a grid... This much more calculated though
real cool !!! and you rock on the keys! dope song
+ZANO .beats thanks man. I wouldn't say I rock. There's plenty of room for improvement haha
4:3 swing, where's 16:9 swing.
Really liked Your Video !!
thank U!
I wish I could thumbs up multiple times. This tutorial just busted my creative block wide open. Thank you sir!
Glad I could inspire you :)
Yes Flan is a delicious Mexican dessert flam is correct. Also this tutorial is great thnx.
great video. you can also drag the handle to have 7 divisions over 2 beats instead of 1, too. 7 divisions over 2 beats yields a totally different time feel than 7 divisions over one beat, which is kinda cool. Thanks!
great tutorial, thanks!
Koan Sound was where I heard these grooves for the first time. Great video!!! :D
damn bro thanks for this piece of knowledge
haven't felt inspiration like this in a while, thank you
Triplets are my fav.. great vids man
thanks again for another great video
Great video and very useful, thanks. Useful for quantising too, lots of comments about playing it in but if you are working with musicians doing this naturally having info like this to hand could really save the day if your not sure exactly what they are aiming for. This peaked my interest as been learning to play the drums for a good few years now.
Great tutorials...!
love your tutorials man bless 🙏
Having a lot of fun with this tips now. Sitting here making a ton of grooves to put in my groove library (y). Great channel man. Subscribed.
Real helpful. Thanks.
Thank you so much for teaching us all of this for free!! PRITTY PLEASE! Can you make more videos about swing/grooves?
thank you man, very usefull video. So visually explained
!!
really good and inspiring stuff thank you very much :)
+memorial2k8 cheers!
this is excellent dude
This was super helpful, thanks a heap!!!
Man, really love the content you're putting up. Helps a SHITLOAD!
+blob no problem
when I put 5 hihatts into the space of 4 and try to delete one of them it doesnt competely delete the ones im trying to delete. Instead it partially or mostly deletes them but leaves a little but so that it is still an increment of 4 instead of 5. how do I fix this?
Very good approach my friend judging from the comments left. Personally I'd just play it into the DAW but still...cool that you can explain it. And I REALLY like what you did at 7:00 with the randomness. 🔥🔥🔥
very helpful thanks
Cheers dude, just getting into beat making and this is a tight groove
Hello, Slynk. Any directions on how can I make that kind of lead, pretty please :) Thank you very much.
1. what resources did you use to learn about the different types of swings?
2. how do you know how many midi notes you need as well as how far back you have to move the warp marker to get the type of swing you want?
thanks for making these types of videos. i hope more of these are on the way
+Edgar Lara 1. UA-cam.
2. You want to squeeze 7 notes into the space of one 1/4 note. So if you add an 8th note, once you select all 8 notes you get a handle at the end of the 7th note meaning you can drag that back to the 1/4 note. 7 notes in the space of a 1/4 note.
Supercool stuff!
Thanks for this very intersting tip !!
Hi, very very interesting tutorial ! I was wondering could you explain the kaytranada groove drum ? Thanks !!
Very good !
What preset for the solo bass?
dude sick, learned a lot thank you