Plant Intelligence - ICE Public Dialogue with Richard Powers, Monica Gagliano and Marcelo Gleiser

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  • We think of intelligence as being a brain-supported evolutionary asset. Large or small, brains have neurons connected by synapses. It is this interconnectivity-or so it is believed-that engenders intelligence. But is this too narrow a definition of intelligence? Could plants and ecosystems display some form of alternative intelligent behavior? If so, can (and should) it be studied using traditional scientific methods?
    Join 2019 Pulitzer Prize winner for fiction Richard Powers (The Overstory) and evolutionary ecologist Monica Gagliano (University of Sydney and ICE@Dartmouth Fellow, and author of Thus Spoke the Plant) for a truly mind-expanding conversation that is sure to reset the way you think about the nature of intelligence, plant behavior, and our place within Nature. Moderated by ICE@Dartmouth Director Marcelo Gleiser
    Presented by The Institute for Cross-Disciplinary Engagement at Dartmouth (ICE)
    Recorded Thursday, February 27, 2020

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  • @Beherenow-p5e
    @Beherenow-p5e Рік тому +2

    Throughout the whole conversation I felt like being in the presence of greatness. Can't thank you lovely people enough for this eye opening time. Thanks, gotta go now to talk to my plants, flowers and trees. What a wonderful world we are allowed to visit and ENJOY 💚💚💚

  • @hatsoff1084
    @hatsoff1084 3 роки тому +6

    I read The Overstory and it changed my life. It made me aware of nature in a new way which is both wonderous and frightening. Now it seems silly and myopic to think this is "our" planet.

  • @miguelhoeven8832
    @miguelhoeven8832 4 роки тому +13

    Richard is an amazing word wizard and Monica is a beautiful mystical soul imbued with an exceptional intellect. Marcelo introduces and coordinates the conversation with refined tact and excellent communication skills.
    Overall, three very intelligent people engaged in a very interesting and important conversation. I'm honored and inspired having listened to you all - thank you.

  • @jylyhughes5085
    @jylyhughes5085 3 роки тому +4

    A gorgeous discussion ..... thank you Monica and Richard, your books are life-changing .... xxx

  • @ani1nik
    @ani1nik 3 роки тому +1

    An amazing talk, every word felt like a most precious treasure, and deepest truth. Thank you for making it happen!

  • @ThomiX0.0
    @ThomiX0.0 2 роки тому +2

    Wonderful combination to hear from, or is it not just a coincidence? :-)
    One thing, not clearly seen the way it is, seems to me to be 'compitition' as is mentioned so often.
    'We' still do not want to lose our human programme, which from the start of our education has been strengthened, the cause of one of the biggest hurts given to our children, in which comparison becomes the 'thing' to do..
    We should know better, Life does not compare You to others..
    Life does not compete, that would be very childish, for us to think.. like this.
    Competition would cause the wonderful experienced variation, to be finally lost..
    If winning (from others) was a movement of Life, would You then have a reason to Be?
    Life, for those who still want to be stuck in our one-sided dreams, is every moment NEW.
    The movement of Life, has never been Old.., it certainly has no memory like we use so much, it is ONLY NOW.
    The intelligence which Life is, comes clear to us, when we see its choices never to be something old, these are always NEW.
    And out of millions of options, it takes the ONLY best step, not compared, not competed, because it is new.
    The language of Life, is thus unconditioned, and cannot be made by the brain.
    Not using the name of Life, but its deeply felt word..which is Love, we might confirm in an instant, there cannot be a valuation, comparison or competition be present.
    Every entity of Life, is valued equal, given all what Live has to give, unconditioned and always new, every second in which you are that, Life it self.
    But we disturb our youngsters with the same ignorance as our parents did unknowingly with us..
    Spreading the Hurts to everyone around us, distorting the Earth and its precious inhabitants, to become the most selfish creature with a brain.
    This selfishness then creates love with the brain, which is factually: creed.
    Competition destroyed our One-ness, and continues to do..
    It isn't the movement of Life, it is the destroyer of it!

  • @abdelmoughitafoullouss3459
    @abdelmoughitafoullouss3459 3 роки тому +6

    The number of views, 6 541 as of March 14th 2021, implies that the "great awakening" is far from near.

  • @terryhalwes3059
    @terryhalwes3059 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you guys so much for doing this.!
    (In my idiolect, which is like a dialect but you need to one individual, the term guys is used as a generic term for people. I will give the reasons why I don't use people or folks or other options some other time another venue.)

  • @AnavonRebeur
    @AnavonRebeur Рік тому

    Richard Powers you are uberbrilliant!!!!❤❤❤❤

  • @ameremortal
    @ameremortal 3 роки тому +1

    If I’m able to make a good amount of money before I die, I will donate all of it to this.

  • @onebreathwell-being
    @onebreathwell-being 3 роки тому +1

    Oneness! 🙏 Wonderful discussion 🌱💚

  • @Izas-mp7xj
    @Izas-mp7xj Рік тому

    Thank you. Thank you.

  • @missshroom5512
    @missshroom5512 3 роки тому +2

    Slime molds are super duper cool!

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    Its the acknowledgement of understanding and connection

  • @ameremortal
    @ameremortal 3 роки тому +2

    You need to get Joscha Bach involved in this. One of the most brilliant minds. I would also recommend that you communicate with Leo from Actualized on UA-cam for another perspective which might be underrepresented here.

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    Yes but what about when there are outside forces

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    Hope in humanity

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    There's an outside variable running an experiment for gain or power

  • @williammcenaney1331
    @williammcenaney1331 Місяць тому

    Philosophers and theologians should tell us what personhood consists of because courts can define it arbitrarily. During a graduate seminar about abortion, my professor taught us that human personhood depended on brain development. She thought that a living, breathing, talking huan with an underdeveloped brain would be a nonperson. That suggests that if I shot another human in cold blood, I coroner would need to determine whether I murdered my victim.
    When does a person begin to live? That's for philosophers and theologians to discover. It's not a question for natural science to answer. As a biochemist acquaintance of mine, Dr. Michael Behe, says, scientistists don't tend to philosophize well.
    What would today's natural scientists do if an international court ruled that Jews were nonpersons?

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    The corporation needs to have someone to take accountability

  • @ramaraksha01
    @ramaraksha01 3 роки тому

    Wish I could talk like Mr Powers or write like him

  • @vc62
    @vc62 3 роки тому +6

    If the Christian God was shaped like a tree instead of a human, there wouldn't be this uphill battle.

    • @jennadaigle7508
      @jennadaigle7508 3 роки тому +1

      So right! It's time for Western culture to stop anthropomorphising God.

    • @ramaraksha01
      @ramaraksha01 3 роки тому

      @@jennadaigle7508 Yet no one uses the word Idolatry - shows the bias that the educated bring to the table
      If God decides to come down to earth, what if he or she came down as a woman? Christians will kick her out
      If God came down as a black man or a brown man and says his name is Rama, Christians will murder him!
      God has to come down as a young white male, blond hair and blue eyes and must answer to the name Jesus and of course do a few miracles - and ah, we have God!
      For Muslims it is harder - God must come down as a bright light, since he cannot take any form, and must speak with a booming Darth Vader like voice, male, of course!
      This is all basic Idolatry - yet not one educated person has ever expressed such a view

    • @glenliesegang233
      @glenliesegang233 Рік тому

      No, The tree IS God-shaped. Human ego wields the ax.
      Every failure to empathize causes failure.'

    • @RickyM6666
      @RickyM6666 Рік тому

      GOD IS EVERYTHING .

  • @ramaraksha01
    @ramaraksha01 3 роки тому

    34:15 speaking of Empathy - I was told by an African-American co-worker that since I was not Christian, me and my loved ones will be set apart and dumped into hell! And he not only said it OPENLY, he said it so casually - like he was talking about the weather
    So basically ALL Hindus, Buddhists & Atheists will be like the Jews in Germany in the after life - set apart based solely on their belief and dumped into gas chambers in hell!
    And these, ladies and gentlemen, are the top religions of the day representing humanity!

  • @shroomedup
    @shroomedup 2 роки тому

    Why is there always 1 person coughing the whole time.. lol.. Great talk though!

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    Memory

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    Yep

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    DNA

  • @satorimystic
    @satorimystic 4 роки тому

    If we're to look to empathy, we must consider and recognize apathy. 🤔❓

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    Ask instead of assume

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    I was shot by my husband and lost my leg and was pregnant and its being ignored

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    The court system

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    What about consent

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    Where is my soul and heart

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    Do you know why noah built the ark

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    The great experiment 🤣

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    Geometry

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    A woman is God and what you did was common knowledge science and pride got in the way

  • @ivandansigmun3891
    @ivandansigmun3891 Рік тому

    13:50

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    Yes someone else did it first

  • @ericsbraun
    @ericsbraun Рік тому

    It's disturbing, if you exercise any critical thought, how how these people speak in a style of ecstatic religiosity and how the viewer comments are also completely religious. Read below and you see adjectives and terms such as, "gorgeous, amazing, wonderful, greatness" , none scientific, at all. And, also, you see this in the bizarre expressions on their faces.
    "If I’m able to make a good amount of money before I die, I will donate all of it to this."

  • @ramaraksha01
    @ramaraksha01 3 роки тому

    The only fiction I read is Religion

  • @prettyprudent5779
    @prettyprudent5779 4 місяці тому

    Vegans dismiss this because plants are all they have left to eat. 😒

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    The church

  • @RickyM6666
    @RickyM6666 Рік тому

    I wonder what the vegans have to say about this ?

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    Its old knowledge and I know that y'all need a mirror as do I acceptance

  • @jackdruelo2690
    @jackdruelo2690 3 роки тому

    The materialistic pants cephalometrically strip because bathtub infrequently explain besides a aboard glass. noiseless, curvy sand

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    The illuminati

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    Hindu

  • @aliciaperez1519
    @aliciaperez1519 10 місяців тому

    You are not God according to the lie