@@CombatVeteranReacts Pre-Horus Heresy Chaos force's did not have mortal military power, huge fleets strong enough to cause serios troubles( yep, demons are pretty cool, but without support from warp, they vanish, so you need mortal serves who dont relay on warp to do shit) . Horus Heresy simply present to Chaos Gods whole 9 Legions of space marines(with tons of regular troops, fleets etc). Force that was able to concuer whole Galaxy
@@CombatVeteranReacts Yep, Cadia have a strong fleet(their own fleet, sector fleet, Adeptus Astartes fleet on rotation base-Imperium gather huge army around cadian Gate)
The Emperor trying to block the Eye of Terror would be utterly pointless. It’s a massive tear in reality that only the Necrons could actually close. What he’s doing with the Webway is preventing Terra from becoming another Eye
All we really have to do is wake up some Necron boys to help us close the Eye of Terror. But then again, waking them up wouldn't guarantee that they'd help us
Legions of Chaos can leave Eye of Terror from any diection. But the distubance of warp would scatter them, dropping ships into real-space lightyears away from each other, leaving them vulnerale to Imperium patrol fleets. Cadian Gate was the biggest and only one widely known route of to the Eye that didn't scatter fleets.
@@CombatVeteranReacts Gods are more or less content with the status quo and only need the legions of Chaos Space marines to be a constant threat to Imperium, keeping it from ever rising from this dark age, not to destroy it, as Imperium already provides them with all they ever wanted. Abaddon actually knows this and have to deal with the fact he and his gods have fundamentally opposing goals while working together. The Great Rift was actually originally designed by Abaddob's sorcerers to go from the Eye straight to Terra, and only direct intervention of Gods changed it so it went to the galactic core and beyond to split the Galaxy in half,
@@CombatVeteranReacts Yup. You can bypass this by offering an appropriate sacrifice to the Gods.... but you can get situations like this: "You offered me a sacrifice of 10,000 Imperial Guard and 10 Oxen, you're good to go." "But _you_ sacrificed 10 thousand Imperial guardsmen, 10 oxes, and a _duck_ and I'm not fond of ducks, so half your fleet ends up in the heart of a Star. So sorry."
The Emperor is multitasking BIG time! Not only is he holding the webway but he also must guide all the imperial ships via the astronomicon AND all the blessing shit he does and the prophetic deems he gives his chosen, furthermore, he has a relm in the warp he must control, don't forget about the living saints, etc etc etc. The guy is busy cut him some slack!
So to give a few more points the video misses: 1. Battlefleet Cadia doesn’t rely upon the planet for troops or resources or even port. The Battlefleet is stationed at Cadia for it’s the gateway to the Imperium however it rely upon several massive ports throughout the sector. In addition, additional fleet elements from all over the imperium are usually sent to reinforce the Cadian gate during black crusades - primarily Battlefleet Gothic tho Battlefleet Solar that protects the Sol system itself (I.e. our star systems) sent reinforcements to Cadia too. 2. Cadians are trained from a young age to be soldiers first but the video is wrong about the literacy. They do go over literacy as like you said understanding written orders and other stuff is of great importance, however, they skip the whole advanced literacy unless you move up in the ranks. A basic literacy skill is given to young Cadians so they can read what they are doing, however, said young blood primary duties are learning how to strip and use a lasgun & bayonet, however those going from the ages of 5-10 are usually taught more in the skills of being spotters, messengers and most importantly ammo luggers for no matter the age when the enemy strikes Cadia you are apart of your home worlds defence no matter the age. Once they reach what Cadians believe is maturity 10ish. They begin then inducting them proper into the guard. By this point they should already know the basic of using and maintaining and servicing a lasgun as well as a uniform as such this training is more to bring them in line with the Cadian white shield standard. Once they are properly inducted into a white shield unit, they’ll have chance to serve in some combat close to home - usually anti-pirate, ork and Eldar raider duties tho they can be sent to proper front line units if required/desired. Once they have completed their time as a white shield they can make said choice to join the military industrial complex or the shock troops proper. 3. “The planet broke before the Guard” is a true calling after Cadia fell - tho it has been meme’d to hell. But it represents the guards stubbornness. Throughout all 40k canon the guard are the true guardians of the imperium. The Astartes are but a swift dagger to stab into an enemy when they are weak of vulnerable. The Mechanicus could barely care for the death of people outside their forge worlds unless it means said death hurts their duties. The sister are religious extremists more caring for the defence of monasteries and priest - tho they also sometimes fail in that, normally getting a bit hot under the helmets and charging to meet the enemy even if said enemy is out numbering and fighting them. The guard have always been the true hero’s of the imperium and throughout almost every battle they will be the last standing and the last fighting - their are lots of times where Astartes chapter have abandoned planets due to light casualties (or other more inter chapter/personal reasons) and left the guard to fend for themselves. As such the phrase stands true to all guardsmen that no matter the threat they will never abandon their homes or post until death take them.
In darkness, light shines all the brighter. Laugh at us, laugh at the humble guardsman hiding in his foxhole, with his pitiful equipment and weak bodies, dark Gods. But we reject you, and we have held the line for 10 thousand years against Demi-human monstrosities and your Champions. And we will continue to do so for 10 thousand more. If we fail, it was not our spirit that failed us, but our frailty and resources. Tell me, Daemon: what is your excuse?
An important thing to remember is that like most modern militaries, the land army and the navy are two separate branches of the military. After the Horus Heresy, the military was divided into ground and space forces. Every planet had to have a regiment of soldiers (the imperium is space feudalism) while the navy was divided into segementums (think theaters of war). This was done to isolate rebellions and prevent any army or navy to be self-sufficient.
they also forbade each regiment fielding combined arms armies, with a few exceptions like the death korp. Most imperial guard armies are infantry from one regiment, armor from a different regiment, artillery from a third.
The Cadian Pylons is a funny situation, you see part of the reason the Cadian Gate was the main way in and out of the eye of terror is because the Pylons created a relatively stable route. Without the Pylons there suppressing the tumultuous warp of the region trying to get in and out of the eye of terror is incredibly difficult.
The reason the Emperor has to keep the Webway sealed is because the breach Magnus created opens up directly into the Warp, meaning Terra is dangerously close to falling through the thin ice of reality into the sea of the Immaterium. Cadia, however, is in real-space, and despite its close proximity to the Eye of Terror, daemons can't freely manifest there without something to anchor them to the Materium via a stream of Warp energy. Whenever Cadia was attacked, they were predominantly facing humans and Chaos Marines, with daemons trickling through as the various cults and dark apostles tried to establish stable routes for daemons to take the field, with Cadia repelling countless such invasions for the better part of 10,000 years. As such, the Emperor was free to focus his attention elsewhere, battling the forces of Chaos in other areas.
The game "Battle Fleet Gothic Armada 2" has it's opening set around the fall of Cadia. The pylons are mentioned to have been on multiple worlds, all of them destroyed by Abbadon the Despoiler, the guy who lead the 13th black crusade. I myself don't know a lot about the lore, but I'm assuming the pylons were targeted later, because he was focused on the other ones, which had yet to be understood by the Imperium. Also, the assassination of Cadian High Command was carried out by Cadian soldiers who rapidly became corrupted by Chaos, so Abbadon had yet to actually set foot on the Planet. He originally intended to use the Blackstone Fortress to destroy his targets from orbit, but it was destroyed before it could be effectively used. He then resided to use it's husk as a projectile, cracking the planet with Kinetic force alone.
@@tomfordgunningham465 Just want to add that this was a heavy and hamfisted retcon ... Originally the black crusades were really just to push new editions and material for tabletop gaming. There was originally no grand plan (aside from destroying the Imperium)
Chaos gods didn't really see humans as a threat until the Emperor started making himself known. The call him the Anathema because he is the greatest force of order in the galaxy at the moment. They just waited until they saw their chance with Horus and Lorgar. Besides, about 99% of the Chaos gods' attention is on fighting each other. To them the whole physical universe and battle with humanity etc is an amusing sideshow that they deign to glance at once in a while.
The need for literacy would not be ridiculous when taken into account that Cadia needed more guns in hand than commanders and there were more than enough officers around. Besides they said prioritised over, not abandoned entirely.
@@CombatVeteranReacts I think the IG Command (and the C&C of the IoM, in general) prefers uneducated recruits primarily b/c they don’t want anyone even *remotely* curious… ya know, cause… Chaos and shit.
Exactly, in Battlefleet Gothic Armada II Lord High Admiral Spire actually commented on the efforts to resettle Cadia, stating it would be effort one sector wouldn't suffice to carry out.
Fun fact: Abbadon actually wanted to take the entire planet of Cadia, the only reason he had the ruins of his Blackstone fortress tossed into it was an act of all-or-nothing desperation, as the Cadian Pylons were slowly but surely cutting off his fleets only avenue of reinforcements and the source of power for many of his forces. And so he had to find a way to knock out the Pylons as quickly as possible before the situation he was in became untenable. Now though the remains of Cadia have been turned into a staging ground for all the Traitor Legions to go to and from in carrying out operations within the Imperium Sanctus side of the Great Rift, as the rest of the Cadian Sector is now the direct frontline against Chaos. I definitely recommend reading the Cadia Stands novel if you get the chance, it gives a very nice boots-on-the ground perspective of the Imperial forces fighting Chaos during the 13th Black Crusade.
So to repeat several points spoken already and to help point out how powerful and vital Cadia was. 1) the Cadian Pylons stopped the spread of the warpstorms that make the eye of terror. Warpstorms make space travel difficult and highly dangerous even when compared to normal warp travel. You could lose entire fleets to a warpstorm, and Chaos' main forces who make up roughly 80% of their armies, their mortal followers are victim to this problem as much as anyone else in the galaxy. So the Cadian Gate is the easiest way in or out of the Eye of Terror. As for Cadia's defnese. Cadia's defense fleet is only surpassed by the fleet defending Terra...at least until Guilliman pulled a even bigger fleet out of his butt crack. Then for the Command structure of Chaos, Chaos is a alliance of tribal barbarian warlords who all suffer some degree of Starscream/Megatron syndrome, a quarter of their troops little better than vicious animal simply because they are capable of pulling a trigger and reloading a gun, but that's about it. And for the Necron and the Warp, for the Necron the Tech that stops warp power is extremely rare and near irreplaceable because the guys who made it are either insane/dead, or are total jerks who'd rather laugh as everything around them is destroyed...and then use the tech to save themselves. And getting good lore for Cadia at the moment isn't quite possible, because GW does have a SINGLE book overviewing the final battle and it's tactics...but they basically skipped the whole war and even pulled the most frustrating retcon immediately after that book by going, "ok so Abbadon had his great success, his armies are ready and under his command, and he's targeting Terra" next book "lol nope never mind, 13th crucade over, look at the cool Guilliman model guys, don't worry Abbadon's army...ummm, decided they don't like winning so they all quit...yeah that."
Yeah, I really love (sarcasm) how Gathering Storm advanced the plot more than the last 3 or 4 editions combined in one book. More compressed, soulless and hurried than Season 8 Game of Thrones on steroids
I think the reason Chaos didnt flood thru the eye of terror pre-heresy was that there was no singular leader to "unite" (in the biggest quotations i can find) the different forces. The Chaos gods especially are far more concerned with their Great Game to really give a damn. Most of the Black Crusades are led by Abbadon, or one of the Daemon Primarchs, someone powerful enough and with enough thought and ambition left to coordinate them.
Another reason Chaos did not try to invade the Materium trough the Cadian Gate pre-Herest is that it had no army to do so. Chaos had Daemons, yes. But Daemons can't stay in realspace for long. Until the Heresy and the Traitor Legions Chaos did not have a significant mortal army.
“I would have liked more info about the battles, stratagy etc” So would we….. so would we…. Gw literally had this all happen in a paragraph or two of lore in a very thin book to rush out primaris marines instead of the massive book series it should have been.
@@CombatVeteranReacts If it's any consolation, GW and Black Library aren't averse to sometimes retroactively filling in the blanks. So even though they've not written it yet, they may in the future because it would make them tons of money. Also if you want to know why the 13th Black Crusade specifically targeted Cadia, you have to read about all the previous Black Crusades. They were seemingly failures at the time for Abaddon, but each failure was a hidden strategic victory, the Imperium simply did not see the bigger picture until Cadia fell. Each prior Crusade was systematically knocking out pylons in strategic locations throughout the galaxy, making a fissure or crack that would only be apparent once the lynchpin, the Cadian pylons, were taken out, and the fissure was allowed to grow.
@@CombatVeteranReacts There is a novel called Cadia Stands which follows these events, mostly from the perspective of the troops on the ground. It's a pretty good read altogether.
I might be mistaken but I think Cadia might have been Inspired by the siege of Candia, Venitian City that held against Ottomans for 21 years until it fell
I think the comment about literacy is more along the lines of "we won't bother teaching you to read until you show you can survive and be useful", so they focus more on drilling cleaning/line shooting than teaching It is still dumb, but it makes a bit more sense.
In germany the "Grundausbildung" starts with things, marching, learning ranks, and cleaning up after yourself, instead or in addition to learning ranks or cadence/reach of weapons they could easily add letters to the training regime, during marching, before meals I was frequently asked questions - oh yeah, the NATO Alphabet is a thing too - Answering incorrectly meant to start in the waiting line from the beginning again. I wonder if there is a "pedagogic" difference between learning to read and reading - come to think of it - the theme of reading or language is somewhat explored in "1984"(George Orwell) to gain more control over the population.
It's less that they don't wait until they're sure a child will survive to adulthood to teach literacy, and more that they find knowing how to obey military orders is at least slightly more useful in their day to day lives, circumstances being.
Before the Horus Heresy, Chaos was a lot weaker than it is in modern 40k. The Chaos gods get power from people unknowingly doing the things that fall under their domains but they get far more power from people actively worshipping them by name. Before the Horus Heresy, most of the worshippers of Choas were small and relatively weak groups, that if most only had small steller empires. When the Horus Heresy happened and there are now legions of space marine doing acts for the chaos gods. So as a result they have a lot more power to act in real space.
ehhh i would yes and no that the have always been strong but they cant just reach outside of the immaterium thats why they need worshipers to call their power into our plane. also they dont really gain power from just generic oh your acting in my Domain even though you don't know about me i am now stronger. lets be real if it worked like the khorne would have already won and ended reality. I think your mistaking the formation of a chaos god which is something that can be done unknowing. ie the imperium of man was essentially making a god of unbelief pre-horus and now is essentially turning the emperor into a chaos god but no one is ready to have that conversation yet.
9:30 "Only Use in Case of Emergency" "Explosives" "Self-Destruct" "Tresspassers will be shot" "Minefield" "Add boiling water, stir, wait 3 Minutes, enjoy"
The basic street layout of DC including the roundabouts is far older than the War of 1812. There are pre 1812 drawings of the city plan that clearly show the roundabouts were already planned. Same for the street names. Pennsylvania Avenue was always going to be called Pennsylvania Avenue. The reason DC is a pain to drive it is because the designer wanted the city to be pretty when viewed from above or on paper. A aesthetically pleasing street plan is fine when the most common mode of transportation was the horse. But six way intersections are not conducive to vehicular traffic.
This^ Despite the layout it's not really a difficult city to navigate, Numbered streets run N-S, Letters run E-W, and States are diagonal. The numbered and lettered streets count down the closer to the Capitol you get.
Please react to the Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 Cadia cinematic cutscenes, it will give you a good idea of what happened during the 13th Black Crusade and the events that happened behind the scenes.
I always imagined a few Cadian guardsmen survived the planet exploding in a sealed bunker. When out the window they see Abandon's flag ship. Readying there laz guns they open the airlock and shoot a the ship before dieing in the void.
Amazing video as always! The eye of terror is like a mini star in size and has been open since the creation of slaneesh so closing it is a bit more complicated than the webway for big E to do. However during the fall, the necron pylons actually started the process of closing the eye of terror before failbaddon destroyed the planet. The planet broke before the guard did. For Cadia!!
Cadia, to my understanding, had an entire Battle Group devoted to it... Battle Groups are usually assigned to defend entire sectors not planets if memory serves. Also Creed is basically Patton (or any other legendary general) on steroids, so he's basically a god tier leader
4:00 The Chaos god actually waited the perfect time to kill the Emperor for a long time, since they can't do that directly because they knew they won't stand a chance, they waited for the Primarchs to be created so they can corrupt them and use them against the Emperor. Knowing that the Emperor loved his sons especially Horus Lupercal he would be hesitant to kill him and hesitant he was leading to the death of the defeat of Emperor and breaking his mortal body.
The Cadian Pylons were never active, so psykers and the like could still freely use their abilities there. Once the pylons were activated, however, the power of the Warp was stunted, and Warp entities like the daemons of Chaos and the Legion of the Damned fading out of existence as the pylons started powering up. Even so, the Warp's influence was not totally suppressed, as Saint Celestine was still alive, albeit greatly weakened, and the Chaos forces still possessed many of the boons of the Dark Gods. Think of it like this. The pylon network was a vast intergalactic electric fence, and the pylons on Cadia were the last post holding the fence up, but the power was off. Then Cawl and Trazyn managed to switch it on, zapping the piss out of any incorporeal Warp beings and sending them running back into the Immaterium and causing the Eye of Terror to also shrink away. Then Abaddon the Sore Loser broke Cadia, the foundation of that last fence post, opening up a hole and letting the Warp spill out of the Eye of Terror like a flood.
It was not The last tho. There are still Pylons left. But all that still are are weaker and smaller then the Cadian ones. But they prevent the Cicatrix Malediction from consuming all right now.
I'm pretty sure in lore there was The Cadian Fleet. One to rival even segmentums own fleets, only behind to the space marine legions and Terra herself. As the 13th Black crusade happened fighting was not just on Cadia itself but the entire star system, which in it self was as fortified as the planet.
18:13 Yes, necrons have lots and lots of anti-warp technology. The cadian pylons were made by one of their special materials called blackstone, which negates the presence of the warp.
@@boooster101 The Imperium has that, they are called Culexus Assassins, and the Eldar describe them as pure evil because of how much they fuck with psykers and the Warp in general.
@@TsukimuraMidori yes, the Abbadon despoliator, a small and harmless spider that lives in Australia and is now under control because there are just a small number of them left
1:38 Is not as much as "The Big E is too far away" and more as a "The Thirsting Gods are too close". 4:00 It was "most" of it, but not "all" of it. 8:25 To be fair, when they refer to "Military Service before Literacy" they meant "Teach your kids how to shoot a gun before you teach them their letters".
4:26 - The Warp is a reflection of mortal souls and becomes more and more twisted the greater the amount of strife and war there is in the galaxy. It takes something like the Crusade and so many souls being devoted to the negative emotions to warp the Warp enough to empower discrete greater entities like the Chaos Gods.
Think of the Eye as a leaky bottle. Some stuff always leaks out, but cadia is the main cork. Once it was pulled, everything spilled out all at once instead of dribbling out.
part of the problem in the imperium with literacy is also the language in the imperium is not technically universal. The nobles, high lords, and high command speak mostly high gothic, most imperial worlds speak low gothic, and some worlds have their own language. There were also 'pylons' of xenos origin on Cadia if I remember right, which impeded the powers of chaos from expanding the eye
Honestly hate the new lore of Cadia falling, but I get it. And it's made the average guardsman become much more recognizable and heroic than the new super astartes. The planet broke before the Guard did. Also, Cadia was a chaos worshiping planet before Lorgar discovered it. It was also one of his stops in his search for the "real" gods after the Emperor chastised him. Sadly Lorgar went full on whiny emo kid instead of listening to daddy and accepting that Emps was not a god, and caused the Heresy. Also I remember being in military training with some Afghani soldiers in training. They would complain how hard it was to do the reading classes. Some didn't understand why they had to learn to read. We encouraged them, and told them basically the same thing you said about it. Was proud of them, they worked hard. Good guys.
I think that the reason chaos didn't focus too much on breaking into real space before the emperor came around was that they just didn't give a care about the materium at that point. To this day they focus like 99.9% of their attention on the warp, and I think prior to the emperor they didn't think anything in the materium could affect them, but when emps came they realized elements of the materium could pose a threat, so now they want to control it. Plus, remember that the materium is anathema to chaos. Its like there's a pool of toxic sludge over in some corner, humans would probably just leave it alone if it wasn't in the way. But then if some crazy powerful sludge monster (big E) started spewing out toxic gas that was poisoning everything, we would probably try and destroy it, and from then on monitor it to ensure no more big threats came out of it, but no large populations of humans would ever want to just inhabit the toxic sludge pool
Don't forget that before the Horus heresy there were no chaos space marines. Hence the incursions from the warp and the Eye of Terror were limited to demons and other such abominations. Only after the Heresy and after the traitor marines had recovered from that were Black Crusades mounted from the Eye.
the pylon are a leftover from when the necrons fought the eldar and has been dorment but still served to somewhat contain the eye of terror hence why when activated it reduced the eye it was a hail marry from abaddon to crash the blackstone fortress, which is itself a relic of a forgotten alien race. the original plan was probably to destroy or interrupt the function of the pylons so chaos could actaully take the planet and use it as a springboard and base to invade further also the eye of terror is MASSIVE so the emperor probably couldnt contain it and he is kinda busy with all kinds of other stuff
The Emperor decided "F'it! I'll do it myself" basically at the birth of Slaanesh aka the creation of the Eye of Terror. I imagine the Chaos gods had a harder time manipulating the material plane before there was a gigantic reality sink hole punched in the galaxy. Just a theory but it fits.
see this more like the emperor of men using his energy to block the gates between the warp and the universe while the eye of terror is more like a hole in the wall between the warp and the universe
"Nah, soon as you're old enough you're sent to join the regiment. Colonel Stagler don't approve of educated men, says it was educated men that got Krieg bombed to shit in the first place. The colonel says that all a man needs to do is fight and die. That's the Krieg way." - an unnamed Death Korps soldier, explaining his illiteracy
The system is called the Cadian Gate for a reason. The black crusades basically have to engage a massive fleet battle so that their guys can slip by every time. Well not now lol
Chaos needs humans/mortal champions to manifest, prior to them gaining Horus as their champion the chaos gods didn’t really have a good way to manifest their powers in the mortal realm. As for the colonists still being corrupt despite the pylons, the pylons hold back the rift from splitting the universe in two.... but it’s still there. In the same way that your parents tell you not to stare at the sun or you’ll go blind, staring at/spending your entire life under the light of a warp rift is going to cause some corruption.
When it comes to the Emperor’s power blocking the equivalent of a hole underground and a demonic wave is one thing, but the Eye of Terror is a massive hole in reality, larger then multiple planets put together. It’s fucking massive and would be too much for any one person.
"larger then multiple planets put together" Dude .... it's 20 THOUSAND freaking light years across. That's a tad more than a couple of planets. That's like saying that an oil tanker is larger than multiple fish together.
Battlefleet cadia also had multiple starforts not to mention cadias planet based weapons anti space planet weapons tend to be both more powerful and heavier shielded than shipmounted weapons plus planet bound weapons have a limited firing angle due to being on a planet
So the Ancient Cadian Pylons were built by the necrons, but they are not only Pylons in the galaxy, there were some others, but they were destroyed by Abaddon during previous black crusades. And oh yeah the ancient xenos are the necrons.
The eye of terror it's what will happen if the Emperor falls or fails. Its a "natural" hole through space caused by the fall of the Aeldari, it has light years size and throws away our own universe slowly replacing it with that other one which is called the warp.
The eye of terror was where the dark god Slannesh was first born. It isn't a naturally occuring warp rift it is where one of the 4 chaos gods was born so the Emperor couldn't do anything about it.
Cadia survived the 13th Black Crusade for more than the last ~10 years... until a writer decided to retcon the original lore. As someone who participated in the in-store 13th Black Crusade battles which helped determine the narrative, I know very well the results of the 13th Black Crusade. It's not what some ham-fisted writer threw away for the sake of shock value.
Whatever happends it will probably end like the Valten vs Archaon campaign in WHFB, where the orcs sweep in at the last minute with their own faction and make the day their own.
Cadia not only had a massive army, it also had fucktonnes of defence guns capable of destroying ships in orbit, as well as having drydocks and factories for replacement parts. So battle fleet cadia could well use cadia to repair, refit, refuel, rearm and recrew much quicker than the attacker, who has to jump their ships out and back in, and with the warp being so unpredictable, that can cost the battle. So taking cadia forces battlefleet cadia to retreat to a much further away drydock and massively damage their ability to respond to threats
Very interesting reaction. Lots of time "X person reacts to" never seem to fully portray the insight whatever their background might provide. But yours was really interesting and well articulated.
So the reason it seems like the pylon thing comes out of nowhere is because it did. Failbaddon the (H)armless was little more than a Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain who makes a bit of a ruckus before getting his butt kicked back into the eye. GW retconned pretty much everything surrounding the black crusades to say "you think he lost but secretly won every time" and then we get the writing atrocity that is the gathering storm.
The pylons were always active, and part of a grand network around the eye of terror. The previous black crusades actually targetted those other nodes in the network, but as they lacked the prominence of cadia abaddon's plan was concealed until it was too late.
The main reason that Chaos waited until after the Horus Heresy to really start going places was essentially because of a lack of mortal (Material) followers. The Chaos Gods prefer to spend all their energy within the Immaterium in the big struggle among themselves that they refer to as 'The Great Game', and it takes a chunk of their power to create and maintain manifestations, Daemons aligned specifically to them, within the Materium. If any one Chaos God made a powerful horde of Daemons appear in realspace, they would be jumped by the other three and consumed because they substantially weakened themselves to do so. Sure, they had a few cults scattered here and there, and those cults would sometimes provide enough sacrifice to summon a Daemon or two, but it wasn't until they had massive legions of followers in the form of the traitor Space Marines that they could really utilize forces within the Materium without putting in a sizable chunk of their own effort and risking themselves for it. Once the Heresy kicked off, the Chaos Gods scrambled for the Imperium's traitor forces knowing that it would allow them to amass larger followings within the Materium that could feed them within the Immaterium. It was only after that when you started to see hordes of specifically aligned Daemons because the Chaos Space Marines would perform sacrifices on a planetary scale to summon them and doing so would boost their patron God. If you go really deep down the Chaos lore rabbit hole, you'll learn about Chaos Undivided and how they try to balance the power between each God while exploiting them to gain an advantage for themselves without giving one entity too much power. It's a strategy wherein they recognize that Chaos has power that they can use, but are still a threat if treated carelessly, so they lift all the Chaos Gods up equally to gain personal benefits for their own goals while maintaining the stalemate within the Immaterium to prevent the catastrophe of one God gaining too much power over the others. Kind of like paranormal trickle-down economics.
Battlefleet Cadia suffered due to various reasons, it wasn't that Cadia was taken and then the fleet was destroyed. The fleet was engaged first, taken by surprise on multiple fronts as the entirety of the Death Guard fleet turned up. Basically, the worst case scenarios just kept on happening. Reinforcing fleets were ravaged as they entered system, and at times they couldn't even identify friend or foe. Warp fuckery also delayed reinforcement. While Battlefleet Cadia was doing its best to fend off the MASSIVE Chaos fleets who were marauding the entire system, there were just too many places the battlefleet couldn't be. So the Chaos fleet made it to Cadia itself and began disgorging troops.
The Deciver was building a shit load of pilons in the galactic center, using the Alpha Legion by pretending to be Omegon , but group of Alpha Legionares fucked that plan up by being manipulated by some Necron Criptekh , AL shore get manipulated by xzenos a lot don't they
Cadia did have insane navy force patrolling it and like the third most powerful orbital defense station grid in the entire Imperium. It did not have shipyards though. Those are normallye xclusive to forge worlds and AdMecha don't like putting their ship production anywhere near fortress worlds.
the emperor was trying to build a human webway , so when magnus broke his barier trying to signal him , it made a permanent tear that would spill into reality creating something similar to the eye of terror right on top of earth. So its not like the emeperor was holding the eye of terror back in the first place
1:23 - What the Emperor is doing is basically like a lone soldier holding a breach in a fortress wall. Comparing the breach in his webway tunnel to the Eye of Terror is like comparing the aforementioned breach to trying to block THE ENTIRE OCEAN. Also, to be clear, he's not 'holding the door shut', he's fighting the hordes that are trying to get in the door. 3:35 - I think the issue with the Pylons is a contradiction that hasn't been addressed officially yet, though if anyone has information to the contrary, please let me know. As to why the Chaos Gods waited 'until the Emperor showed up' to start ravaging, let's remind ourselves of the timeline here. The Chaos Gods only manifested as awakened consciousnesses during the Terran Middle Ages, with the important exception of Slaanesh. At this point, there was no Eye of Terror. Demons could only manifest in the material plain through psykers and intense arcane ritual, both of which were lacking on Earth and which most alien species had already learned to control. The Chaos Gods were limited to subconscious influence at this point. Only warp faring vessels ever directly encountered demons, and that was just until the Gellar Field was invented. It wasn't until Slaanesh awakened that the Eye of Terror was formed and Chaos had an open conduit to the material plain. It was actually THIS EVENT that cleared the warp storms that caused the Age of Strife, so it was really the Chaos Gods starting their rampaging that allowed the Emperor to begin his conquests. 11:57 - What this video hasn't mentioned is that even the Chaos forces can't enter and exit the Eye just ANYWHERE without suffering horrendous casualties. Because of the warp-repelling nature of the Cadian Pylons (which was only truly understood DURING the final attack on Cadia), the sector of the Eye near Cadia was relatively stable and 'safe' to navigate. This made Cadia (to reuse a metaphor) the lone soldier guarding Chaos' most reliable entrance into reality, which was referred to as the Cadian Gate. 13:30 - 'Taking out the leadership is a very modern strategic choice.' Sun Tzu would like a word with you. 16:00 - It's at this point that the Tempelum Institute, one of the greatest compilers of fictional lore on the entire internet, decides to skip 80% of the last battle of Cadia in their video SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TO the last battle of Cadia. 16:20 - Abaddon's Epic Rage-Quit. 18:04 - That is pretty much literally the only thing the Mechanicum is working on right now. The entire Vigilus campaign was about securing another planet with Necron pylon tech that was keeping open a pathway to Imperium Nihilus. 20:00 - 'I have a lot more questions about the Fall of Cadia now.' I bet you do. That video was dramatic, but practically useless. If you want an infinitely better telling of the Fall of Cadia, watch this video from 40K Theory's Lore For Newcomers series that dropped about a week ago: ua-cam.com/video/7IZp693g5CM/v-deo.html If you want the full story, track down a copy of The Gathering Storm: The Fall of Cadia.
During the black crusades Chaos had to split their fleet up to into many smaller fleets in order to invade and destroy as many worlds as possible before reinforcements arrived. If they left Cadia intact then the Cadian forces could take out their smaller fleets one by one as they tried to siege as many worlds as they could at the same time.
The fall of cadia actually was a direct cause of roboutes revival, mr steal your everything Trazyn threw a bunch if items from his collection at cadia to try and slow chaos while he helped some mechanicus guys start up the pylons, and then dipped immediately after the fortress hit, but there was a special group of eldar capable of returning from death, they teamed up with some space marines, the mechanicus guy from earlier, a hereticus inquisitor, and some sororitas, this group had come into possession of a special suit of armor that also acts as a life support system, the eldar opened a web way portal to a world in ultramar, they then convinced the ultramarine to take them to roboutes tomb, some shenanigans happened including another chaos invasion wherein roboute woke up, that's the long story short version, but oh well
The best description I have for cadia in navy terms is if the eye of terror was the Baltic see cadia would be Zealand (the big island in the middle of the Denmark strait) because something you have to remember is despite being space/“hell”warp travel is still based around navigable routes that can form choke points (especially around warp storms like the eye)
So the big reason the Chaos Gods didn't make big efforts to break into real space was because the eye of terror didn't exist for very long prior to the heresy, and daemons actually have a very difficult time existing in real space. The break out attempts sky rocketed when the Chaos Gods found themselves tens of thousands of space Marines and their demigod leaders.
The Blackstone from the Necrons is able to make a zone where the Warp isn't able to apear. The Emperor himself wanted to ban the Chaos with Blackstone and his golden throne. But when loyal Marines wanted to warn him that Horis betrayed him it destroyed like the auto-mode of the golden throne and he had to sit there to prevent Chaos deamons entering Terra while the Horus-heresy. The Pylons on Cadia are also made out of Blackstone and they got activated by Belesarius Cawl with the help of Trazyn the Infinite. As soon as the pylons got activated the warpcreatures and Sisters of Battle got weak and around Cadia was a big zone where no warptravel functioned and thats why so less troops could evacuate. Later then Abbadon the Despoiler got stabbes by the holy St. Celestine and he retreated, but he let one of his two Blackstonefortresses crush into Cadia and we all know how that endet.
Also "why didn't chaos try to break out before?" They didn't need to. They were running the galaxy. Also daemons have a hard time being in real.space. you needed some physical bodied guys in the eye before someone would need /want to break out haha
So, Chaos never ramped up activity before the Heresy because humans are needed to actually summon Daemons into realspace. It's like one of the only relatively consistant 40k rules imo. They can only really emerge unless summoned actively (or accidentally if they just copy the cool brain hurty drawings out of that sinister whispering book found in a basement) or by possessing a psyker and opening a warp rift/doing a ritual but that was pretty rare/unheard of back then. The Heresy supplied Chaos with devoted human followers/a splintered military force and champions to do exactly that, which they were lacking before since they can't just appear unless someone opens the way through knowledge of Chaos which Lorgar really made prevalent through the traitor forces.
The Pylons kept Chaos from spreading like a tidal wave, but Chaos pervades all parts of the universe, so it can still corrupt everything eventually, but it's the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing one. You don't want to be hit by either, but one is way more powerful. The Pylons were put there by the Necrontyr, probably to contain the Warp presence there. They were masters of technology, and their wars against the Old Ones (an immensely powerful race of psykers) forced them to develop anti-psyker weaponry...like the pylons of Cadia.
Worth to mention, Necrons didn't create those (blackstone) pylon especially for the Eye of Terror, and they are not only on Cadia. Blackstone is a rare material able to nullify (if you remember the null gene) or contain & release the psychic energy of the immaterium : the pylons were built during the War in Heaven against the Old Ones who had access to the immaterium to lock entire sectors from surprise incursions, or even retreats if that makes sense. Blackstone Fortresses in the other hands, are originally Aeldari weapons against the Necrons, able to draw psychic energy to release it in a devastating beam (combined, they can destroy a planet, or even trigger a supernova). Their goal was to kill probably the most powerful Ctan, Void Dragon (since Ctans are beings of pure energy, killing them with a psychic beam.. makes sense? Grim dark but still fantasy). But they failed as the Necrons killed the Eldar seers controlling them, and without psykers to manage them, they were mostly destroyed/split in parts by the Deceiver Ctan, out of reach from the Aeldari, or some were forgotten in dark places of the galaxy... After millions years, Abaddon retrieved six of them from the hands of the imperium after the Gothic War, which are perfect weapons in the hands of the Chaos since they can manipulate the Warp itself.
"The planet breaking before the Guard did" isn't a meme. As the planet was breaking up there were reports of Guardsmen STILL fighting on the surface.
Wild and courageous
@@CombatVeteranReacts Yeah, the Imperium dosn't do retreats.
@@CombatVeteranReacts Cadia is pretty far away from Terra
@@CombatVeteranReacts Pre-Horus Heresy Chaos force's did not have mortal military power, huge fleets strong enough to cause serios troubles( yep, demons are pretty cool, but without support from warp, they vanish, so you need mortal serves who dont relay on warp to do shit)
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Horus Heresy simply present to Chaos Gods whole 9 Legions of space marines(with tons of regular troops, fleets etc). Force that was able to concuer whole Galaxy
@@CombatVeteranReacts Yep, Cadia have a strong fleet(their own fleet, sector fleet, Adeptus Astartes fleet on rotation base-Imperium gather huge army around cadian Gate)
The Emperor trying to block the Eye of Terror would be utterly pointless. It’s a massive tear in reality that only the Necrons could actually close. What he’s doing with the Webway is preventing Terra from becoming another Eye
Also starving the warp of all its fuel from humans
Heretic
HERETIC! (On a more serious note I agree, it’s blocking a keyhole with a thumb versus blocking an entire doorway with that same thumb.)
All we really have to do is wake up some Necron boys to help us close the Eye of Terror. But then again, waking them up wouldn't guarantee that they'd help us
@@randomguy-z2l popplppppp of course you are
Legions of Chaos can leave Eye of Terror from any diection. But the distubance of warp would scatter them, dropping ships into real-space lightyears away from each other, leaving them vulnerale to Imperium patrol fleets. Cadian Gate was the biggest and only one widely known route of to the Eye that didn't scatter fleets.
Damn. The warp is really merciless. Even scatters their own fleets. The Warp gods are dicks
@@CombatVeteranReacts Gods are more or less content with the status quo and only need the legions of Chaos Space marines to be a constant threat to Imperium, keeping it from ever rising from this dark age, not to destroy it, as Imperium already provides them with all they ever wanted. Abaddon actually knows this and have to deal with the fact he and his gods have fundamentally opposing goals while working together. The Great Rift was actually originally designed by Abaddob's sorcerers to go from the Eye straight to Terra, and only direct intervention of Gods changed it so it went to the galactic core and beyond to split the Galaxy in half,
@@CombatVeteranReacts Yup.
You can bypass this by offering an appropriate sacrifice to the Gods.... but you can get situations like this:
"You offered me a sacrifice of 10,000 Imperial Guard and 10 Oxen, you're good to go."
"But _you_ sacrificed 10 thousand Imperial guardsmen, 10 oxes, and a _duck_ and I'm not fond of ducks, so half your fleet ends up in the heart of a Star. So sorry."
Robute Guilliman, “The Avenging Bean Counter”- Konrad Cruze.
The Emperor is multitasking BIG time! Not only is he holding the webway but he also must guide all the imperial ships via the astronomicon AND all the blessing shit he does and the prophetic deems he gives his chosen, furthermore, he has a relm in the warp he must control, don't forget about the living saints, etc etc etc. The guy is busy cut him some slack!
Not to mention the man's basically being used as a battery
If only he had a text to speech device 😶
So to give a few more points the video misses:
1. Battlefleet Cadia doesn’t rely upon the planet for troops or resources or even port. The Battlefleet is stationed at Cadia for it’s the gateway to the Imperium however it rely upon several massive ports throughout the sector. In addition, additional fleet elements from all over the imperium are usually sent to reinforce the Cadian gate during black crusades - primarily Battlefleet Gothic tho Battlefleet Solar that protects the Sol system itself (I.e. our star systems) sent reinforcements to Cadia too.
2. Cadians are trained from a young age to be soldiers first but the video is wrong about the literacy. They do go over literacy as like you said understanding written orders and other stuff is of great importance, however, they skip the whole advanced literacy unless you move up in the ranks. A basic literacy skill is given to young Cadians so they can read what they are doing, however, said young blood primary duties are learning how to strip and use a lasgun & bayonet, however those going from the ages of 5-10 are usually taught more in the skills of being spotters, messengers and most importantly ammo luggers for no matter the age when the enemy strikes Cadia you are apart of your home worlds defence no matter the age.
Once they reach what Cadians believe is maturity 10ish. They begin then inducting them proper into the guard. By this point they should already know the basic of using and maintaining and servicing a lasgun as well as a uniform as such this training is more to bring them in line with the Cadian white shield standard.
Once they are properly inducted into a white shield unit, they’ll have chance to serve in some combat close to home - usually anti-pirate, ork and Eldar raider duties tho they can be sent to proper front line units if required/desired.
Once they have completed their time as a white shield they can make said choice to join the military industrial complex or the shock troops proper.
3. “The planet broke before the Guard” is a true calling after Cadia fell - tho it has been meme’d to hell.
But it represents the guards stubbornness. Throughout all 40k canon the guard are the true guardians of the imperium.
The Astartes are but a swift dagger to stab into an enemy when they are weak of vulnerable.
The Mechanicus could barely care for the death of people outside their forge worlds unless it means said death hurts their duties.
The sister are religious extremists more caring for the defence of monasteries and priest - tho they also sometimes fail in that, normally getting a bit hot under the helmets and charging to meet the enemy even if said enemy is out numbering and fighting them.
The guard have always been the true hero’s of the imperium and throughout almost every battle they will be the last standing and the last fighting - their are lots of times where Astartes chapter have abandoned planets due to light casualties (or other more inter chapter/personal reasons) and left the guard to fend for themselves.
As such the phrase stands true to all guardsmen that no matter the threat they will never abandon their homes or post until death take them.
They held the line for ten millennia and will hold the line until humanity's final day.
Yea, they really are the workhorses of the imperium
In darkness, light shines all the brighter.
Laugh at us, laugh at the humble guardsman hiding in his foxhole, with his pitiful equipment and weak bodies, dark Gods. But we reject you, and we have held the line for 10 thousand years against Demi-human monstrosities and your Champions. And we will continue to do so for 10 thousand more.
If we fail, it was not our spirit that failed us, but our frailty and resources. Tell me, Daemon: what is your excuse?
I would also think that the Imperium have learnt from Calth, where having a traditional "Ring of Iron" can become a negative.
No fancy upgrades or armor. Just badassery.
An important thing to remember is that like most modern militaries, the land army and the navy are two separate branches of the military. After the Horus Heresy, the military was divided into ground and space forces. Every planet had to have a regiment of soldiers (the imperium is space feudalism) while the navy was divided into segementums (think theaters of war). This was done to isolate rebellions and prevent any army or navy to be self-sufficient.
they also forbade each regiment fielding combined arms armies, with a few exceptions like the death korp. Most imperial guard armies are infantry from one regiment, armor from a different regiment, artillery from a third.
The Cadian Pylons is a funny situation, you see part of the reason the Cadian Gate was the main way in and out of the eye of terror is because the Pylons created a relatively stable route. Without the Pylons there suppressing the tumultuous warp of the region trying to get in and out of the eye of terror is incredibly difficult.
The reason the Emperor has to keep the Webway sealed is because the breach Magnus created opens up directly into the Warp, meaning Terra is dangerously close to falling through the thin ice of reality into the sea of the Immaterium. Cadia, however, is in real-space, and despite its close proximity to the Eye of Terror, daemons can't freely manifest there without something to anchor them to the Materium via a stream of Warp energy. Whenever Cadia was attacked, they were predominantly facing humans and Chaos Marines, with daemons trickling through as the various cults and dark apostles tried to establish stable routes for daemons to take the field, with Cadia repelling countless such invasions for the better part of 10,000 years. As such, the Emperor was free to focus his attention elsewhere, battling the forces of Chaos in other areas.
The game "Battle Fleet Gothic Armada 2" has it's opening set around the fall of Cadia. The pylons are mentioned to have been on multiple worlds, all of them destroyed by Abbadon the Despoiler, the guy who lead the 13th black crusade. I myself don't know a lot about the lore, but I'm assuming the pylons were targeted later, because he was focused on the other ones, which had yet to be understood by the Imperium. Also, the assassination of Cadian High Command was carried out by Cadian soldiers who rapidly became corrupted by Chaos, so Abbadon had yet to actually set foot on the Planet. He originally intended to use the Blackstone Fortress to destroy his targets from orbit, but it was destroyed before it could be effectively used. He then resided to use it's husk as a projectile, cracking the planet with Kinetic force alone.
yeah the 12 other black crusades involved destroying pylons among other things (such as butchering a planets population to summon a demon)
@@tomfordgunningham465 Just want to add that this was a heavy and hamfisted retcon ...
Originally the black crusades were really just to push new editions and material for tabletop gaming. There was originally no grand plan (aside from destroying the Imperium)
@@boooster101 ik but at least they fixed it
Chaos gods didn't really see humans as a threat until the Emperor started making himself known. The call him the Anathema because he is the greatest force of order in the galaxy at the moment. They just waited until they saw their chance with Horus and Lorgar.
Besides, about 99% of the Chaos gods' attention is on fighting each other. To them the whole physical universe and battle with humanity etc is an amusing sideshow that they deign to glance at once in a while.
The need for literacy would not be ridiculous when taken into account that Cadia needed more guns in hand than commanders and there were more than enough officers around.
Besides they said prioritised over, not abandoned entirely.
Yea, fair point
Yeah and if everyone could read, who would be left to watch those dangerous intellectuals? (That was a joke.)
@@CombatVeteranReacts I think the IG Command (and the C&C of the IoM, in general) prefers uneducated recruits primarily b/c they don’t want anyone even *remotely* curious… ya know, cause… Chaos and shit.
@@paulpolito2001 Ignorance is a shield against uncertainty.
Exactly, in Battlefleet Gothic Armada II Lord High Admiral Spire actually commented on the efforts to resettle Cadia, stating it would be effort one sector wouldn't suffice to carry out.
Fun fact: Abbadon actually wanted to take the entire planet of Cadia, the only reason he had the ruins of his Blackstone fortress tossed into it was an act of all-or-nothing desperation, as the Cadian Pylons were slowly but surely cutting off his fleets only avenue of reinforcements and the source of power for many of his forces. And so he had to find a way to knock out the Pylons as quickly as possible before the situation he was in became untenable. Now though the remains of Cadia have been turned into a staging ground for all the Traitor Legions to go to and from in carrying out operations within the Imperium Sanctus side of the Great Rift, as the rest of the Cadian Sector is now the direct frontline against Chaos.
I definitely recommend reading the Cadia Stands novel if you get the chance, it gives a very nice boots-on-the ground perspective of the Imperial forces fighting Chaos during the 13th Black Crusade.
Cadia stands at the safest and quickest way out of the eye of terror. The ideal resupply point.
The "cadian gate" is the cluster of star systems around cadia. And yes. They have a HUGE battlefleet.
So to repeat several points spoken already and to help point out how powerful and vital Cadia was.
1) the Cadian Pylons stopped the spread of the warpstorms that make the eye of terror.
Warpstorms make space travel difficult and highly dangerous even when compared to normal warp travel. You could lose entire fleets to a warpstorm, and Chaos' main forces who make up roughly 80% of their armies, their mortal followers are victim to this problem as much as anyone else in the galaxy. So the Cadian Gate is the easiest way in or out of the Eye of Terror.
As for Cadia's defnese. Cadia's defense fleet is only surpassed by the fleet defending Terra...at least until Guilliman pulled a even bigger fleet out of his butt crack.
Then for the Command structure of Chaos, Chaos is a alliance of tribal barbarian warlords who all suffer some degree of Starscream/Megatron syndrome, a quarter of their troops little better than vicious animal simply because they are capable of pulling a trigger and reloading a gun, but that's about it.
And for the Necron and the Warp, for the Necron the Tech that stops warp power is extremely rare and near irreplaceable because the guys who made it are either insane/dead, or are total jerks who'd rather laugh as everything around them is destroyed...and then use the tech to save themselves.
And getting good lore for Cadia at the moment isn't quite possible, because GW does have a SINGLE book overviewing the final battle and it's tactics...but they basically skipped the whole war and even pulled the most frustrating retcon immediately after that book by going, "ok so Abbadon had his great success, his armies are ready and under his command, and he's targeting Terra" next book "lol nope never mind, 13th crucade over, look at the cool Guilliman model guys, don't worry Abbadon's army...ummm, decided they don't like winning so they all quit...yeah that."
Yeah, I really love (sarcasm) how Gathering Storm advanced the plot more than the last 3 or 4 editions combined in one book.
More compressed, soulless and hurried than Season 8 Game of Thrones on steroids
I think the reason Chaos didnt flood thru the eye of terror pre-heresy was that there was no singular leader to "unite" (in the biggest quotations i can find) the different forces. The Chaos gods especially are far more concerned with their Great Game to really give a damn. Most of the Black Crusades are led by Abbadon, or one of the Daemon Primarchs, someone powerful enough and with enough thought and ambition left to coordinate them.
Interesting!
Another reason Chaos did not try to invade the Materium trough the Cadian Gate pre-Herest is that it had no army to do so. Chaos had Daemons, yes. But Daemons can't stay in realspace for long. Until the Heresy and the Traitor Legions Chaos did not have a significant mortal army.
“I would have liked more info about the battles, stratagy etc”
So would we….. so would we….
Gw literally had this all happen in a paragraph or two of lore in a very thin book to rush out primaris marines instead of the massive book series it should have been.
Wait, really, This seems like it should have been its own trilogy...
@@CombatVeteranReacts A lot of fans agree with you on that, it really deserve more.
"That'll teach you to whine about needing IG updates!" -GW
@@CombatVeteranReacts If it's any consolation, GW and Black Library aren't averse to sometimes retroactively filling in the blanks. So even though they've not written it yet, they may in the future because it would make them tons of money. Also if you want to know why the 13th Black Crusade specifically targeted Cadia, you have to read about all the previous Black Crusades. They were seemingly failures at the time for Abaddon, but each failure was a hidden strategic victory, the Imperium simply did not see the bigger picture until Cadia fell. Each prior Crusade was systematically knocking out pylons in strategic locations throughout the galaxy, making a fissure or crack that would only be apparent once the lynchpin, the Cadian pylons, were taken out, and the fissure was allowed to grow.
@@CombatVeteranReacts There is a novel called Cadia Stands which follows these events, mostly from the perspective of the troops on the ground. It's a pretty good read altogether.
I might be mistaken but I think Cadia might have been Inspired by the siege of Candia, Venitian City that held against Ottomans for 21 years until it fell
I think the comment about literacy is more along the lines of "we won't bother teaching you to read until you show you can survive and be useful", so they focus more on drilling cleaning/line shooting than teaching
It is still dumb, but it makes a bit more sense.
I guess that is true. Some schools in the US don't start reading until age 7.
In germany the "Grundausbildung" starts with things, marching, learning ranks, and cleaning up after yourself, instead or in addition to learning ranks or cadence/reach of weapons they could easily add letters to the training regime, during marching, before meals I was frequently asked questions - oh yeah, the NATO Alphabet is a thing too - Answering incorrectly meant to start in the waiting line from the beginning again. I wonder if there is a "pedagogic" difference between learning to read and reading - come to think of it - the theme of reading or language is somewhat explored in "1984"(George Orwell) to gain more control over the population.
It's less that they don't wait until they're sure a child will survive to adulthood to teach literacy, and more that they find knowing how to obey military orders is at least slightly more useful in their day to day lives, circumstances being.
Before the Horus Heresy, Chaos was a lot weaker than it is in modern 40k. The Chaos gods get power from people unknowingly doing the things that fall under their domains but they get far more power from people actively worshipping them by name. Before the Horus Heresy, most of the worshippers of Choas were small and relatively weak groups, that if most only had small steller empires. When the Horus Heresy happened and there are now legions of space marine doing acts for the chaos gods. So as a result they have a lot more power to act in real space.
ehhh i would yes and no that the have always been strong but they cant just reach outside of the immaterium thats why they need worshipers to call their power into our plane. also they dont really gain power from just generic oh your acting in my Domain even though you don't know about me i am now stronger. lets be real if it worked like the khorne would have already won and ended reality. I think your mistaking the formation of a chaos god which is something that can be done unknowing. ie the imperium of man was essentially making a god of unbelief pre-horus and now is essentially turning the emperor into a chaos god but no one is ready to have that conversation yet.
Cadia the planet is only one planet in a system. The system itself has multiple planets + space stations
9:30 "Only Use in Case of Emergency" "Explosives" "Self-Destruct" "Tresspassers will be shot" "Minefield" "Add boiling water, stir, wait 3 Minutes, enjoy"
The basic street layout of DC including the roundabouts is far older than the War of 1812. There are pre 1812 drawings of the city plan that clearly show the roundabouts were already planned. Same for the street names. Pennsylvania Avenue was always going to be called Pennsylvania Avenue. The reason DC is a pain to drive it is because the designer wanted the city to be pretty when viewed from above or on paper. A aesthetically pleasing street plan is fine when the most common mode of transportation was the horse. But six way intersections are not conducive to vehicular traffic.
Interesting, I guess that story is just apocryphal! Given your username, I trust you on this lol
This^ Despite the layout it's not really a difficult city to navigate, Numbered streets run N-S, Letters run E-W, and States are diagonal. The numbered and lettered streets count down the closer to the Capitol you get.
Please react to the Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 Cadia cinematic cutscenes, it will give you a good idea of what happened during the 13th Black Crusade and the events that happened behind the scenes.
CADIA STANDS!!!!
I always imagined a few Cadian guardsmen survived the planet exploding in a sealed bunker. When out the window they see Abandon's flag ship. Readying there laz guns they open the airlock and shoot a the ship before dieing in the void.
@@Headhunter1234256 this is believable.
CADIA stood so strong, the Heretics had to throw a gigantic fortress at it
Basically Abbadon flipped the table the game they were playing was on by just throwing his fortress at the planet because he was salty.
Amazing video as always! The eye of terror is like a mini star in size and has been open since the creation of slaneesh so closing it is a bit more complicated than the webway for big E to do. However during the fall, the necron pylons actually started the process of closing the eye of terror before failbaddon destroyed the planet. The planet broke before the guard did. For Cadia!!
They eye of terror covers thousands of light years.
The eye of terror is alot bigger than that
Cadia, to my understanding, had an entire Battle Group devoted to it... Battle Groups are usually assigned to defend entire sectors not planets if memory serves. Also Creed is basically Patton (or any other legendary general) on steroids, so he's basically a god tier leader
4:00 The Chaos god actually waited the perfect time to kill the Emperor for a long time, since they can't do that directly because they knew they won't stand a chance, they waited for the Primarchs to be created so they can corrupt them and use them against the Emperor. Knowing that the Emperor loved his sons especially Horus Lupercal he would be hesitant to kill him and hesitant he was leading to the death of the defeat of Emperor and breaking his mortal body.
The Cadian Pylons were never active, so psykers and the like could still freely use their abilities there. Once the pylons were activated, however, the power of the Warp was stunted, and Warp entities like the daemons of Chaos and the Legion of the Damned fading out of existence as the pylons started powering up. Even so, the Warp's influence was not totally suppressed, as Saint Celestine was still alive, albeit greatly weakened, and the Chaos forces still possessed many of the boons of the Dark Gods.
Think of it like this. The pylon network was a vast intergalactic electric fence, and the pylons on Cadia were the last post holding the fence up, but the power was off. Then Cawl and Trazyn managed to switch it on, zapping the piss out of any incorporeal Warp beings and sending them running back into the Immaterium and causing the Eye of Terror to also shrink away. Then Abaddon the Sore Loser broke Cadia, the foundation of that last fence post, opening up a hole and letting the Warp spill out of the Eye of Terror like a flood.
It was not The last tho. There are still Pylons left. But all that still are are weaker and smaller then the Cadian ones. But they prevent the Cicatrix Malediction from consuming all right now.
I'm pretty sure in lore there was The Cadian Fleet. One to rival even segmentums own fleets, only behind to the space marine legions and Terra herself. As the 13th Black crusade happened fighting was not just on Cadia itself but the entire star system, which in it self was as fortified as the planet.
18:13
Yes, necrons have lots and lots of anti-warp technology. The cadian pylons were made by one of their special materials called blackstone, which negates the presence of the warp.
So let's just take a powerful Blank and clad him in Blackstone armor.
Will scatter Daemon essence like an arcane leafblower
@@boooster101 LOL. That would be total overkill. Anti-chaos to the max.
@@boooster101 The Imperium has that, they are called Culexus Assassins, and the Eldar describe them as pure evil because of how much they fuck with psykers and the Warp in general.
You need the old white dwarves and the old Cadian guard addon from early 2000’s for all the battles and details
I bet that costs a fortune
Ok just to put this in there, they were not illiterate they just value killing above it. They were given a lazgun when they could walk.
I love how you did 1 40k video a bit ago, now diving straight into the endless void of lore XD Love the videos man!
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Me: Leans forward.
Combat Veteran Reacts: Its not Helsreach.
Me: Leans backward
Combat Veteran Reacts: Its Cadia!
Me: Leans forwad again.
Also, Cadia had to be the net because it was in the middle of the most "stable" routes that lead out from the eye of terror.
As stable as routes out of a literal tear in reality go.
That video always give me goosebumps, the narrator of those videos is soo good
Planet broke before guard BTW it was me who told you to react to this on stream XD for the Emperor
Thanks for the great suggestion!
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The chaos gods waited until then because they saw the Emperor and his plans as a threat to their survival.
Fun fact: a spider has been named after the overlord of chaos Abbadon the Despoiler
Pardon?!
@@TsukimuraMidori yes, the Abbadon despoliator, a small and harmless spider that lives in Australia and is now under control because there are just a small number of them left
@@absolutelyloyalspacemarine1684 fitting for Faolbadon the Harmless
1:38 Is not as much as "The Big E is too far away" and more as a "The Thirsting Gods are too close".
4:00 It was "most" of it, but not "all" of it.
8:25 To be fair, when they refer to "Military Service before Literacy" they meant "Teach your kids how to shoot a gun before you teach them their letters".
4:26 - The Warp is a reflection of mortal souls and becomes more and more twisted the greater the amount of strife and war there is in the galaxy. It takes something like the Crusade and so many souls being devoted to the negative emotions to warp the Warp enough to empower discrete greater entities like the Chaos Gods.
Cadia had extremely strong Naval Forces. Other assets of the Imperial Navy were also dispatched to help them in case of Attack.
Think of the Eye as a leaky bottle. Some stuff always leaks out, but cadia is the main cork. Once it was pulled, everything spilled out all at once instead of dribbling out.
part of the problem in the imperium with literacy is also the language in the imperium is not technically universal. The nobles, high lords, and high command speak mostly high gothic, most imperial worlds speak low gothic, and some worlds have their own language.
There were also 'pylons' of xenos origin on Cadia if I remember right, which impeded the powers of chaos from expanding the eye
They call space navy just the Navy, yeah.
Also, you are absolutely right about them having a massive navy
Honestly hate the new lore of Cadia falling, but I get it. And it's made the average guardsman become much more recognizable and heroic than the new super astartes. The planet broke before the Guard did. Also, Cadia was a chaos worshiping planet before Lorgar discovered it. It was also one of his stops in his search for the "real" gods after the Emperor chastised him. Sadly Lorgar went full on whiny emo kid instead of listening to daddy and accepting that Emps was not a god, and caused the Heresy.
Also I remember being in military training with some Afghani soldiers in training. They would complain how hard it was to do the reading classes. Some didn't understand why they had to learn to read. We encouraged them, and told them basically the same thing you said about it. Was proud of them, they worked hard. Good guys.
I think that the reason chaos didn't focus too much on breaking into real space before the emperor came around was that they just didn't give a care about the materium at that point. To this day they focus like 99.9% of their attention on the warp, and I think prior to the emperor they didn't think anything in the materium could affect them, but when emps came they realized elements of the materium could pose a threat, so now they want to control it.
Plus, remember that the materium is anathema to chaos. Its like there's a pool of toxic sludge over in some corner, humans would probably just leave it alone if it wasn't in the way. But then if some crazy powerful sludge monster (big E) started spewing out toxic gas that was poisoning everything, we would probably try and destroy it, and from then on monitor it to ensure no more big threats came out of it, but no large populations of humans would ever want to just inhabit the toxic sludge pool
The Imperial Navy is truly the Imperiums greatest force, it is immense and powerful beyond measure
Don't forget that before the Horus heresy there were no chaos space marines. Hence the incursions from the warp and the Eye of Terror were limited to demons and other such abominations. Only after the Heresy and after the traitor marines had recovered from that were Black Crusades mounted from the Eye.
the pylon are a leftover from when the necrons fought the eldar and has been dorment but still served to somewhat contain the eye of terror hence why when activated it reduced the eye
it was a hail marry from abaddon to crash the blackstone fortress, which is itself a relic of a forgotten alien race.
the original plan was probably to destroy or interrupt the function of the pylons so chaos could actaully take the planet and use it as a springboard and base to invade further
also the eye of terror is MASSIVE so the emperor probably couldnt contain it and he is kinda busy with all kinds of other stuff
The Emperor decided "F'it! I'll do it myself" basically at the birth of Slaanesh aka the creation of the Eye of Terror. I imagine the Chaos gods had a harder time manipulating the material plane before there was a gigantic reality sink hole punched in the galaxy. Just a theory but it fits.
see this more like the emperor of men using his energy to block the gates between the warp and the universe while the eye of terror is more like a hole in the wall between the warp and the universe
"Can you re close this rift?"
Cawl says he can, and Cawl is never wrong.
"Nah, soon as you're old enough you're sent to join the regiment. Colonel Stagler don't approve of educated men, says it was educated men that got Krieg bombed to shit in the first place. The colonel says that all a man needs to do is fight and die. That's the Krieg way."
- an unnamed Death Korps soldier, explaining his illiteracy
The system is called the Cadian Gate for a reason. The black crusades basically have to engage a massive fleet battle so that their guys can slip by every time. Well not now lol
No the planet literally crumbled around the Guard as they kept fighting. It was insane. The balls on those soldiers must have been made of steel.
Chaos needs humans/mortal champions to manifest, prior to them gaining Horus as their champion the chaos gods didn’t really have a good way to manifest their powers in the mortal realm.
As for the colonists still being corrupt despite the pylons, the pylons hold back the rift from splitting the universe in two.... but it’s still there. In the same way that your parents tell you not to stare at the sun or you’ll go blind, staring at/spending your entire life under the light of a warp rift is going to cause some corruption.
The webway is like tunnels true chaos the eye of Terror is like a direct link into the realm of Chaos
When it comes to the Emperor’s power blocking the equivalent of a hole underground and a demonic wave is one thing, but the Eye of Terror is a massive hole in reality, larger then multiple planets put together. It’s fucking massive and would be too much for any one person.
"larger then multiple planets put together"
Dude .... it's 20 THOUSAND freaking light years across. That's a tad more than a couple of planets.
That's like saying that an oil tanker is larger than multiple fish together.
Battlefleet cadia also had multiple starforts not to mention cadias planet based weapons anti space planet weapons tend to be both more powerful and heavier shielded than shipmounted weapons plus planet bound weapons have a limited firing angle due to being on a planet
Ah, I hadn't thought about Planet base weapons!
14:40 and that’s why I love the German concept of Auftragstaktik (in English aka mission command, I believe)
6:50 Both times I've driven through the Mall, my GPS went haywire. Bring a paper map.
Chaos Demon: THIS IS MADNESS!!
Guardsman: Madness...THIS! IS!! CADIAA!!
So the Ancient Cadian Pylons were built by the necrons, but they are not only Pylons in the galaxy, there were some others, but they were destroyed by Abaddon during previous black crusades. And oh yeah the ancient xenos are the necrons.
The eye of terror it's what will happen if the Emperor falls or fails. Its a "natural" hole through space caused by the fall of the Aeldari, it has light years size and throws away our own universe slowly replacing it with that other one which is called the warp.
The eye of terror was where the dark god Slannesh was first born. It isn't a naturally occuring warp rift it is where one of the 4 chaos gods was born so the Emperor couldn't do anything about it.
The full frase is "the planet broke before the guard did CADIA STANDS"
Cadia survived the 13th Black Crusade for more than the last ~10 years... until a writer decided to retcon the original lore. As someone who participated in the in-store 13th Black Crusade battles which helped determine the narrative, I know very well the results of the 13th Black Crusade. It's not what some ham-fisted writer threw away for the sake of shock value.
GW's retcons to make Chaos win really annoy me as well.
Whatever happends it will probably end like the Valten vs Archaon campaign in WHFB, where the orcs sweep in at the last minute with their own faction and make the day their own.
Commanding Chaos is like herding cats.
Only a strong leader can keep the squabbling warbands, cultists, and daemons working together.
The eye of terror sounds strangely beautiful, aesthetically anyway.
Cadia not only had a massive army, it also had fucktonnes of defence guns capable of destroying ships in orbit, as well as having drydocks and factories for replacement parts.
So battle fleet cadia could well use cadia to repair, refit, refuel, rearm and recrew much quicker than the attacker, who has to jump their ships out and back in, and with the warp being so unpredictable, that can cost the battle.
So taking cadia forces battlefleet cadia to retreat to a much further away drydock and massively damage their ability to respond to threats
Very interesting reaction. Lots of time "X person reacts to" never seem to fully portray the insight whatever their background might provide. But yours was really interesting and well articulated.
I think you will really enjoy the audio book Cadia stands
So the reason it seems like the pylon thing comes out of nowhere is because it did.
Failbaddon the (H)armless was little more than a Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain who makes a bit of a ruckus before getting his butt kicked back into the eye. GW retconned pretty much everything surrounding the black crusades to say "you think he lost but secretly won every time" and then we get the writing atrocity that is the gathering storm.
The pylons were always active, and part of a grand network around the eye of terror. The previous black crusades actually targetted those other nodes in the network, but as they lacked the prominence of cadia abaddon's plan was concealed until it was too late.
The main reason that Chaos waited until after the Horus Heresy to really start going places was essentially because of a lack of mortal (Material) followers. The Chaos Gods prefer to spend all their energy within the Immaterium in the big struggle among themselves that they refer to as 'The Great Game', and it takes a chunk of their power to create and maintain manifestations, Daemons aligned specifically to them, within the Materium. If any one Chaos God made a powerful horde of Daemons appear in realspace, they would be jumped by the other three and consumed because they substantially weakened themselves to do so. Sure, they had a few cults scattered here and there, and those cults would sometimes provide enough sacrifice to summon a Daemon or two, but it wasn't until they had massive legions of followers in the form of the traitor Space Marines that they could really utilize forces within the Materium without putting in a sizable chunk of their own effort and risking themselves for it. Once the Heresy kicked off, the Chaos Gods scrambled for the Imperium's traitor forces knowing that it would allow them to amass larger followings within the Materium that could feed them within the Immaterium. It was only after that when you started to see hordes of specifically aligned Daemons because the Chaos Space Marines would perform sacrifices on a planetary scale to summon them and doing so would boost their patron God. If you go really deep down the Chaos lore rabbit hole, you'll learn about Chaos Undivided and how they try to balance the power between each God while exploiting them to gain an advantage for themselves without giving one entity too much power. It's a strategy wherein they recognize that Chaos has power that they can use, but are still a threat if treated carelessly, so they lift all the Chaos Gods up equally to gain personal benefits for their own goals while maintaining the stalemate within the Immaterium to prevent the catastrophe of one God gaining too much power over the others. Kind of like paranormal trickle-down economics.
Battlefleet Cadia suffered due to various reasons, it wasn't that Cadia was taken and then the fleet was destroyed. The fleet was engaged first, taken by surprise on multiple fronts as the entirety of the Death Guard fleet turned up. Basically, the worst case scenarios just kept on happening. Reinforcing fleets were ravaged as they entered system, and at times they couldn't even identify friend or foe. Warp fuckery also delayed reinforcement. While Battlefleet Cadia was doing its best to fend off the MASSIVE Chaos fleets who were marauding the entire system, there were just too many places the battlefleet couldn't be. So the Chaos fleet made it to Cadia itself and began disgorging troops.
The Deciver was building a shit load of pilons in the galactic center, using the Alpha Legion by pretending to be Omegon , but group of Alpha Legionares fucked that plan up by being manipulated by some Necron Criptekh , AL shore get manipulated by xzenos a lot don't they
That's just what they want you to think. ;)
Cadia did have insane navy force patrolling it and like the third most powerful orbital defense station grid in the entire Imperium. It did not have shipyards though. Those are normallye xclusive to forge worlds and AdMecha don't like putting their ship production anywhere near fortress worlds.
the emperor was trying to build a human webway , so when magnus broke his barier trying to signal him , it made a permanent tear that would spill into reality creating something similar to the eye of terror right on top of earth.
So its not like the emeperor was holding the eye of terror back in the first place
1:23 - What the Emperor is doing is basically like a lone soldier holding a breach in a fortress wall. Comparing the breach in his webway tunnel to the Eye of Terror is like comparing the aforementioned breach to trying to block THE ENTIRE OCEAN. Also, to be clear, he's not 'holding the door shut', he's fighting the hordes that are trying to get in the door.
3:35 - I think the issue with the Pylons is a contradiction that hasn't been addressed officially yet, though if anyone has information to the contrary, please let me know. As to why the Chaos Gods waited 'until the Emperor showed up' to start ravaging, let's remind ourselves of the timeline here. The Chaos Gods only manifested as awakened consciousnesses during the Terran Middle Ages, with the important exception of Slaanesh. At this point, there was no Eye of Terror. Demons could only manifest in the material plain through psykers and intense arcane ritual, both of which were lacking on Earth and which most alien species had already learned to control. The Chaos Gods were limited to subconscious influence at this point. Only warp faring vessels ever directly encountered demons, and that was just until the Gellar Field was invented. It wasn't until Slaanesh awakened that the Eye of Terror was formed and Chaos had an open conduit to the material plain. It was actually THIS EVENT that cleared the warp storms that caused the Age of Strife, so it was really the Chaos Gods starting their rampaging that allowed the Emperor to begin his conquests.
11:57 - What this video hasn't mentioned is that even the Chaos forces can't enter and exit the Eye just ANYWHERE without suffering horrendous casualties. Because of the warp-repelling nature of the Cadian Pylons (which was only truly understood DURING the final attack on Cadia), the sector of the Eye near Cadia was relatively stable and 'safe' to navigate. This made Cadia (to reuse a metaphor) the lone soldier guarding Chaos' most reliable entrance into reality, which was referred to as the Cadian Gate.
13:30 - 'Taking out the leadership is a very modern strategic choice.' Sun Tzu would like a word with you.
16:00 - It's at this point that the Tempelum Institute, one of the greatest compilers of fictional lore on the entire internet, decides to skip 80% of the last battle of Cadia in their video SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TO the last battle of Cadia.
16:20 - Abaddon's Epic Rage-Quit.
18:04 - That is pretty much literally the only thing the Mechanicum is working on right now. The entire Vigilus campaign was about securing another planet with Necron pylon tech that was keeping open a pathway to Imperium Nihilus.
20:00 - 'I have a lot more questions about the Fall of Cadia now.' I bet you do. That video was dramatic, but practically useless. If you want an infinitely better telling of the Fall of Cadia, watch this video from 40K Theory's Lore For Newcomers series that dropped about a week ago: ua-cam.com/video/7IZp693g5CM/v-deo.html If you want the full story, track down a copy of The Gathering Storm: The Fall of Cadia.
During the black crusades Chaos had to split their fleet up to into many smaller fleets in order to invade and destroy as many worlds as possible before reinforcements arrived. If they left Cadia intact then the Cadian forces could take out their smaller fleets one by one as they tried to siege as many worlds as they could at the same time.
They didn't say literacy wasn't compatible with military service though. They said it was prioritised above it, not to the exclusion of it.
Cadia still stands is what surviving Cadia regiments say that wherever they stand they carry Cadia with them
Cadia had one of the most powerful navies in the imperium. It could easily rival the nevis of entire sectors
The fall of cadia actually was a direct cause of roboutes revival, mr steal your everything Trazyn threw a bunch if items from his collection at cadia to try and slow chaos while he helped some mechanicus guys start up the pylons, and then dipped immediately after the fortress hit, but there was a special group of eldar capable of returning from death, they teamed up with some space marines, the mechanicus guy from earlier, a hereticus inquisitor, and some sororitas, this group had come into possession of a special suit of armor that also acts as a life support system, the eldar opened a web way portal to a world in ultramar, they then convinced the ultramarine to take them to roboutes tomb, some shenanigans happened including another chaos invasion wherein roboute woke up, that's the long story short version, but oh well
more Templin Institute videos please! (i love Templin Institute imperial guard video. Its written soooooo well) :)
The best description I have for cadia in navy terms is if the eye of terror was the Baltic see cadia would be Zealand (the big island in the middle of the Denmark strait) because something you have to remember is despite being space/“hell”warp travel is still based around navigable routes that can form choke points (especially around warp storms like the eye)
Thanks Paul, now I know why driving in DC is a nightmare. They definitely succeeded in their design 😂
So the big reason the Chaos Gods didn't make big efforts to break into real space was because the eye of terror didn't exist for very long prior to the heresy, and daemons actually have a very difficult time existing in real space. The break out attempts sky rocketed when the Chaos Gods found themselves tens of thousands of space Marines and their demigod leaders.
Cadia stands as long as the Cadian people still lives throughout the Galaxy.
Well that moustache took me by surprise
The Blackstone from the Necrons is able to make a zone where the Warp isn't able to apear. The Emperor himself wanted to ban the Chaos with Blackstone and his golden throne. But when loyal Marines wanted to warn him that Horis betrayed him it destroyed like the auto-mode of the golden throne and he had to sit there to prevent Chaos deamons entering Terra while the Horus-heresy. The Pylons on Cadia are also made out of Blackstone and they got activated by Belesarius Cawl with the help of Trazyn the Infinite. As soon as the pylons got activated the warpcreatures and Sisters of Battle got weak and around Cadia was a big zone where no warptravel functioned and thats why so less troops could evacuate. Later then Abbadon the Despoiler got stabbes by the holy St. Celestine and he retreated, but he let one of his two Blackstonefortresses crush into Cadia and we all know how that endet.
Also "why didn't chaos try to break out before?" They didn't need to. They were running the galaxy. Also daemons have a hard time being in real.space. you needed some physical bodied guys in the eye before someone would need /want to break out haha
So, Chaos never ramped up activity before the Heresy because humans are needed to actually summon Daemons into realspace. It's like one of the only relatively consistant 40k rules imo. They can only really emerge unless summoned actively (or accidentally if they just copy the cool brain hurty drawings out of that sinister whispering book found in a basement) or by possessing a psyker and opening a warp rift/doing a ritual but that was pretty rare/unheard of back then. The Heresy supplied Chaos with devoted human followers/a splintered military force and champions to do exactly that, which they were lacking before since they can't just appear unless someone opens the way through knowledge of Chaos which Lorgar really made prevalent through the traitor forces.
The Pylons kept Chaos from spreading like a tidal wave, but Chaos pervades all parts of the universe, so it can still corrupt everything eventually, but it's the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing one. You don't want to be hit by either, but one is way more powerful.
The Pylons were put there by the Necrontyr, probably to contain the Warp presence there. They were masters of technology, and their wars against the Old Ones (an immensely powerful race of psykers) forced them to develop anti-psyker weaponry...like the pylons of Cadia.
You will always remember the day Cadia fell. For me, it was Tuesday.
Worth to mention, Necrons didn't create those (blackstone) pylon especially for the Eye of Terror, and they are not only on Cadia.
Blackstone is a rare material able to nullify (if you remember the null gene) or contain & release the psychic energy of the immaterium : the pylons were built during the War in Heaven against the Old Ones who had access to the immaterium to lock entire sectors from surprise incursions, or even retreats if that makes sense.
Blackstone Fortresses in the other hands, are originally Aeldari weapons against the Necrons, able to draw psychic energy to release it in a devastating beam (combined, they can destroy a planet, or even trigger a supernova). Their goal was to kill probably the most powerful Ctan, Void Dragon (since Ctans are beings of pure energy, killing them with a psychic beam.. makes sense? Grim dark but still fantasy).
But they failed as the Necrons killed the Eldar seers controlling them, and without psykers to manage them, they were mostly destroyed/split in parts by the Deceiver Ctan, out of reach from the Aeldari, or some were forgotten in dark places of the galaxy...
After millions years, Abaddon retrieved six of them from the hands of the imperium after the Gothic War, which are perfect weapons in the hands of the Chaos since they can manipulate the Warp itself.